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| qwebirc90633 | IP is not getting assigned to OpenStack VM instance interface | 04:56 |
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| reedip | qwebirc90633: better put up your queries on the IRC Channel #openstack-neutron | 05:03 |
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| qwebirc90633 | ok thanks | 05:07 |
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| skraynev | #startmeeting Heat | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 07:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 07:00 |
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| shardy | o/ | 07:00 |
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| ochuprykov | hi | 07:01 |
| KanagarajM | hi | 07:01 |
| ricolin | o/ | 07:01 |
| tiantian | o/ | 07:01 |
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| skraynev | hi folks :) | 07:01 |
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| skraynev | #topic Adding items to agenda | 07:02 |
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| skraynev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-03-02_0700_UTC.29 | 07:02 |
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| skraynev | any suggestions? | 07:03 |
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| skraynev | ok. | 07:05 |
| skraynev | #topic heatclient 1.0.0 release | 07:05 |
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| skraynev | According this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-support-python-openstackclient | 07:06 |
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| skraynev | there are three patches, that will be good to merge. So please review them. | 07:06 |
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| skraynev | I plan to post 1.0.0 release tag, when all these patches are landed | 07:07 |
| skraynev | shardy KanagarajM ricolin tiantian ^ | 07:07 |
| tiantian | sure, will have a look:) | 07:07 |
| ricolin | on it | 07:07 |
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| KanagarajM | morning i have looked at +2 most of them. | 07:08 |
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| pas-ha | o/ | 07:09 |
| skraynev | Yeah. I have seen ;) | 07:09 |
| skraynev | pas-ha: welcome ;) nice to see you | 07:09 |
| skraynev | #topic M3 status | 07:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "M3 status (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:09 | |
| ricolin | 16 hours to go | 07:10 |
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| skraynev | after looking on status for patches https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/sfc-heat | 07:11 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1539069 looks like it should probably be marked as not affecting heat instead of wont fix? | 07:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539069 in Aodh "CeilometerAlarmTest is failing intermittently" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Julien Danjou (jdanjou) | 07:11 |
| shardy | it's a bit confusing saying we won't fix an issue with our own tests ;) | 07:12 |
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| ricolin | +1 | 07:12 |
| ramishra | hi all | 07:13 |
| skraynev | I think, that it's very risky to wait this BP. Also LBaAS v2 mostly is merged, but I'd like to see release notes for it plus functional test. So I think it may some kind of FFE, because the main part of code is merged | 07:13 |
| skraynev | shardy: ok. could you please set the coirrect status? | 07:13 |
| skraynev | *correct | 07:13 |
| skraynev | I had a doubts when set it. | 07:13 |
| skraynev | ramishra: hi. | 07:13 |
| shardy | skraynev: sure, done! | 07:14 |
| skraynev | shardy: thx ;) | 07:14 |
| ramishra | sorry I'm little late | 07:14 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: np. you did not miss something important | 07:17 |
| shardy | There are a lot of triaged/confirmed bugs which are medium, I guess we can start bumping those not in-progress to RC1? | 07:17 |
| skraynev | shardy: yeah. You read my thoughts :) | 07:17 |
| skraynev | I wanted to ask; is it ok to move the not Inprogress bugs to Rc1 | 07:18 |
| skraynev | and also other In Progress ,which is not merged till todays evening | 07:18 |
| ramishra | skraynev: for sfc-heat, I don't see a spec, is the bp approved? Did we agree to introduce new resource plugins using spec-lite rather than full spec? | 07:19 |
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| ramishra | or no spec;) | 07:19 |
| skraynev | ramishra: it has not spec in Heat, Mohankumar told, that he did not do it, because he Mentioned neutron spec. | 07:20 |
| skraynev | I asked him to do it, but I am not sure, what he decided about it | 07:20 |
| shardy | skraynev: we need to evaluate each of the high in-progress bugs to check which are important enough to block m3 on, then bump everything else to RC1 | 07:20 |
| shardy | we've got 46 not-landed bugs, so we'll have to bump a lot of them I think ;) | 07:21 |
| stevebaker | hi, sorry I'm late | 07:22 |
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| shardy | hey stevebaker | 07:22 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: hey. we already discussed heatclient. there are 3 patches on review with one +2. and I think, when they be merged I will propose 1.0.0 | 07:23 |
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| skraynev | shardy: agree. | 07:23 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: releasing on those 3 sounds good | 07:23 |
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| stevebaker | reviews on the High bugs in m-3 would be good | 07:25 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: shardy: I have moved most part of bugs to rc1 | 07:28 |
| skraynev | fuh... not it looks better ;) | 07:28 |
| stevebaker | heh, its not so bad ;) | 07:29 |
| shardy | heh, nice :) | 07:29 |
| ricolin | cheers! | 07:30 |
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| ramishra | what about some convergence High bugs, can we not move them to RC1 too or we want them to be fixed in m3? some have patches with merge conflicts. | 07:31 |
| skraynev | I think, that we have time before the todays evening , i.e. Wed 17.00 UTC | 07:31 |
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| skraynev | I think, that I will propose m3 near of this time | 07:32 |
| skraynev | ramishra: if patches are in merge conflict - then we need to move to rc1, because imo it may take more time for fixing/re-review/merging | 07:33 |
| skraynev | ramishra: could you please move such bugs? | 07:33 |
| tiantian | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1533074 about this bug, only need to approve the patch for backport to liberty | 07:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1533074 in heat "Can't create nova server with subnet and fixed_ip" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to huangtianhua (huangtianhua) | 07:34 |
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| tiantian | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274307/ | 07:36 |
| ramishra | shardy: can we move this https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1528958 to RC1? | 07:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1528958 in heat "SoftwareDeployments -> SoftwareDeploymentGroup update is destructive" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rico Lin (rico-lin) | 07:36 |
| skraynev | tiantian: hm.. IMO it should be Fix released already. if it's merged in master | 07:36 |
| shardy | ramishra: Yes, although I'd like to see it fixed before we cut the RC if possible | 07:37 |
| shardy | IIRC ricolin has a patch up already | 07:37 |
| skraynev | tiantian: +A, also I have updated status for bug. thx | 07:38 |
| ricolin | true | 07:38 |
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| shardy | without that it's impossible to move away from the deprecated SoftwareDeployments name, and I'd like to change all the names in the tripleo-heat-templates to non-deprecated ones | 07:38 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: let's try to review it during today | 07:38 |
| ricolin | skraynev: there is actually four patchs need to be merge in OSC bp | 07:39 |
| skraynev | ricolin: hm... I am not sure, because the main patches are mentioned here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-support-python-openstackclient | 07:40 |
| ricolin | check the end of that file:) | 07:40 |
| ricolin | openstack orchestration service list : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285909/ | 07:41 |
| ricolin | four! | 07:41 |
| ricolin | :) | 07:41 |
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| skraynev | ricolin: lol. it's bonus | 07:44 |
| skraynev | why is it at the end of list ?! | 07:44 |
| skraynev | #topic Open discussion | 07:44 |
| stevebaker | ricolin: its done, anything else now is a bonus | 07:44 |
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| ricolin | lol | 07:45 |
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| skraynev | So plan to bump m3 todays or tomorrow early morning (depends on rate of review in releases repo) | 07:47 |
| skraynev | same for 1.0.0 | 07:47 |
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| stevebaker | +1 | 07:48 |
| ricolin | +1:) | 07:48 |
| skraynev | if you have any suggestions/questions, please do it now or to be silent forever ;) | 07:48 |
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| shardy | +1 | 07:50 |
| skraynev | nice. | 07:52 |
| skraynev | if we have not something else ,I suggest to finish and go to review remains patches ;) | 07:53 |
| shardy | +1 | 07:53 |
| ricolin | +1! | 07:53 |
| skraynev | ok ;) | 07:54 |
| skraynev | #endmeeting | 07:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 07:54:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:54 |
| skraynev | thank you all | 07:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-02-07.00.html | 07:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-02-07.00.txt | 07:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-02-07.00.log.html | 07:54 |
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| shardy | /window 23 | 09:09 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 09:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 09:31:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:31 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 09:31 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy, huanxie, jianghuaw ping | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | Morning / afternoon everyone | 09:31 |
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| huanxie | hello BobBall | 09:31 |
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| huanxie | Hello johnthetubaguy | 09:31 |
| BobBall | #topic Blueprints / reviews | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | So - johnthetubaguy - is it time to start reviewing specs for Newton yet? :) | 09:32 |
| jianghuaw | johnthetubaguy and Bob: Good morning. | 09:32 |
| BobBall | We've got a few specs already up for review | 09:32 |
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| huazhihao | Good morning John and Bob | 09:33 |
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| BobBall | Good afternoon all :) | 09:33 |
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| BobBall | Just waiting for johnthetubaguy to realise he's in here :) | 09:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am running around for mitaka-3 right now | 09:35 |
| BobBall | Who has specs / BPs ready for review in Newton? Could you add the links here? | 09:35 |
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| BobBall | Ah - do you want to postpone this meeting for 1 week perhaps johnthetubaguy ? | 09:36 |
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| BobBall | I know it's normally fortnightly, but we can move this meeting to the same time next week so you can focus on the release critical fun | 09:36 |
| jianghuaw | link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274045/ | 09:36 |
| jianghuaw | this spec is for " Xenapi: a new VDI store via streaming" | 09:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: just ping me for things where you need me | 09:37 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Pretty much all of this meeting is where we need input from you, since we have daily sync ups within the team. | 09:38 |
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| BobBall | I'll postpone for 1 week and send out a new invitation. | 09:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, you can keep going, with slightly delayed responses, if that helps | 09:39 |
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| huazhihao | I got another vhd BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bare-vhd-image | 09:40 |
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| BobBall | I think it's best if we let you focus on the release johnthetubaguy - but thanks. | 09:40 |
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| BobBall | anything urgent to raise huazhihao, jianghuaw or huanxie? | 09:40 |
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| huazhihao | I am totally fine | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | for new specs, next week is probably better | 09:41 |
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| huanxie | BobBall and johnthetubaguy, I have modified the nova/neutron race condition according to your comments https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241127/, please help have a review when you are available | 09:42 |
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| BobBall | thanks huanxie - I will review today. | 09:42 |
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| BobBall | Let's close here then | 09:43 |
| BobBall | Will see if we can have a meeting in 1 week's time (rather than a fortnight) | 09:43 |
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| BobBall | #endmeeting | 09:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 09:43:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-02-09.31.html | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-02-09.31.txt | 09:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-02-09.31.log.html | 09:43 |
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| rluethi | ping dguitarbite | 10:30 |
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| dguitarbite | ping | 10:32 |
| dguitarbite | Can you host the meeting? | 10:32 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: ?? | 10:33 |
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| dguitarbite | #startmeeting training-labs | 10:34 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 10:34:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dguitarbite. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:34 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-labs)" | 10:34 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_labs' | 10:34 |
| dguitarbite | Hello guys, roll call. | 10:34 |
| julen | Hi guys | 10:34 |
| rluethi | sorry, I am getting distracted. | 10:34 |
| rluethi | here (for now) | 10:34 |
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| dguitarbite | hello | 10:35 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: no worries :) | 10:35 |
| rluethi | hi jule | 10:35 |
| rluethi | hi julen | 10:35 |
| dguitarbite | #topic tarballs and website | 10:35 |
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| dguitarbite | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281721/ | 10:36 |
| dguitarbite | This one is important change which needs to get merged first. This patch allows us to publish required tarballs | 10:36 |
| rluethi | Anything missing for it to move forward? | 10:36 |
| dguitarbite | Not from our side. The patch is correct, builds are passing and I got a thumbs up from Andreas. They are waiting to get consensus from their core team. | 10:37 |
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| dguitarbite | Our goal is to get this merged at-least 1-2 weeks prior to the summit. In case we have to give the talks, I would personally like people to be able to check the webpage for training-labs and the tarballs. | 10:39 |
| julen | one question about the website... rluethi proposed to include that "flow chart" into the website. How could I do it? | 10:39 |
| rluethi | If there is a lack of consensus on their core team, is there anything we can provide to help them with the decision? | 10:39 |
| dguitarbite | Not yet. I was being told that its just a matter of following their policy and the patch should be in as soon as they have a discussion about the same. | 10:39 |
| dguitarbite | julen: I dont understand "flow chart" | 10:39 |
| rluethi | julen: you can do it in text or make a graph. Whatever you find useful. Preferably in a format that is easy to view and update. | 10:40 |
| julen | aha... so, just embed it within the current website, right? | 10:40 |
| julen | dguitarbite, the "flow chart", so, some kind of schema which explains which parts are getting executed during a default run | 10:41 |
| dguitarbite | julen: We could discuss this on the docs channel. I would prefer this to go into the documentation : docs folder under training-labs | 10:42 |
| julen | something like: get args, install base, generate virtual networks, ... | 10:42 |
| rluethi | julen: yes, the wiki is easy to change for anyone. | 10:42 |
| julen | aha, sure | 10:42 |
| rluethi | julen: you can make a separate subpage for it. | 10:42 |
| julen | good | 10:42 |
| dguitarbite | Wiki sounds like a better idea for this! Since the webpage is not exactly under our control and its better to keep it short and simple in there :). | 10:43 |
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| dguitarbite | Ok, moving on. What should be the next topic? | 10:44 |
| rluethi | patches under review is always a favorite | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | Alright | 10:45 |
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| dguitarbite | #topic current-patches | 10:45 |
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| dguitarbite | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-labs+status:open | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | So apart from the i386 patch, I have tested them once, read the code and from my side it looks good to me. | 10:46 |
| dguitarbite | julen: You can start reviewing the patches too :) Also a great way to start learning and getting more familiar with training-labs | 10:46 |
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| rluethi | i386 is not quite ready yet, but I will remove the -2 soonish, I hope. | 10:48 |
| julen | sure! I tried, but I didn't know how to proceed | 10:48 |
| rluethi | julen: basically, try the patch, read the code, comment on anything that you find. | 10:48 |
| julen | but how do I mark it as "OK" | 10:49 |
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| rluethi | julen: you need a user on the side. do you have a login? | 10:49 |
| julen | yes | 10:49 |
| rluethi | of course, you already posted a patch. silly me. | 10:49 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: yes he does, he sent the very first patch :) | 10:49 |
| julen | :) | 10:50 |
| dguitarbite | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286894/ | 10:50 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: If you click on the reply button, you will get a message box and see two sections below the msg box | 10:50 |
| dguitarbite | Code-Review and Workflow | 10:50 |
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| dguitarbite | Code-Review +1/0/-1 :: Looks good to me/Abstaining or Just commenting/ Needs some fixes (ofcourse mentioning the reason for -1 is ideal) | 10:51 |
| rluethi | mentioning the reason for -1 is _required_. | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | Workflow is for getting the status of current work. Workflow -1 may be to say that you want to work more or there is a dependency etc. | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Not sure if it is enforced by Gerrit but in general its always nice to explicitly clarify why you want to give a -1 | 10:52 |
| rluethi | I require it :). | 10:52 |
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| rluethi | How are you supposed to fix something if someone doesn't explain their -1? | 10:53 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Yes, I will make sure I give -1 and -2 with __required hidden so you need to make an explicit call ;) | 10:53 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I agree with you. But on gerrit you can always give -1/-2 without a comment. Which may be a bit sad though. | 10:53 |
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| rluethi | julenl: don't worry, just try it out, nobody will bite your head off. you'll get the hang of it quickly. | 10:55 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: +1 | 10:55 |
| dguitarbite | julen: I hope I did not scare you or confuse you. | 10:55 |
| julen | sure not :P | 10:56 |
| julen | I will try to learn about that later | 10:56 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Whats your take on the current open reviews | 10:57 |
| rluethi | Some are dependencies. I need them to be able to feed further patches into the queue. | 10:58 |
| rluethi | (because I don't like patch stacks on gerrit) | 10:58 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I understand. I reviewed all of them :) | 10:58 |
| rluethi | they still need workflow. | 11:00 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Ohh, I am waiting for your +2's remember that we agreed to do 2 +2's? | 11:01 |
| dguitarbite | or I should not wait for that? | 11:01 |
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| rluethi | I added them. | 11:03 |
| rluethi | i will try to review julen's patch tonight. | 11:03 |
| dguitarbite | Ohh, I merged his patch. Its changing the readme. | 11:04 |
| julen | it was just to add the actual command. When I used osbash for the first time I had to find it out from your presentation... | 11:05 |
| rluethi | At first glance, it seemed to remove a colon that might have been needed. I didn't have time to check. | 11:05 |
| dguitarbite | The indent is more important for code blocks but you may be right about ::'s | 11:06 |
| julen | aha! I thought that colon was a typo... | 11:07 |
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| dguitarbite | So the double colon is for multi-line code blocks to respect the line breaks. We dont need it for the current entries are just one liners. | 11:08 |
| dguitarbite | Move on? | 11:08 |
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| rluethi | go ahead | 11:08 |
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| dguitarbite | #any other buisness | 11:08 |
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| dguitarbite | #topic any_other_buiz | 11:08 |
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| dguitarbite | Anything else that we should think/talk about? | 11:09 |
| rluethi | I'm good. | 11:09 |
| rluethi | Let's keep in touch. | 11:09 |
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| dguitarbite | Yes, I shall have a lot more time for the next two months at least. | 11:10 |
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| dguitarbite | See you next week. Nice seeing you all here :). And julen welcome to our team :). | 11:10 |
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| rluethi | yup. see you all soon. | 11:11 |
| dguitarbite | #end-meeting | 11:11 |
| julen | thanks! see you.. | 11:11 |
| dguitarbite | #end meeting | 11:11 |
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| dguitarbite | #endmeeting | 11:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 11:12:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-02-10.34.html | 11:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-02-10.34.txt | 11:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-02-10.34.log.html | 11:12 |
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| zhiyuan | hi joe, before the meeting, i just would like to talk something about the security group | 12:54 |
| joehuang | hi,zhiyuan | 12:55 |
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| joehuang | pls | 12:55 |
| zhiyuan | as yili said, remote_group_id is directly used now | 12:55 |
| zhiyuan | if two networks are attached to the same router, l2 proxy will create the remote port | 12:55 |
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| zhiyuan | in each pod | 12:56 |
| joehuang | yes, but I think in real case, maybe only "default" | 12:56 |
| joehuang | we can check to see the remote group id used in production | 12:56 |
| zhiyuan | yeah, but it's a bit weird that even though the network doesn't across pods, the remote port is created | 12:57 |
| joehuang | has to do so for the SEG | 12:57 |
| zhiyuan | than network, subnet also needs to be created | 12:58 |
| zhiyuan | s/than/then | 12:58 |
| joehuang | something waste, but have to do so | 12:58 |
| zhiyuan | ok, what about Tricircle? when to implement like that? | 12:59 |
| zhiyuan | after we support cross-pod L2? | 12:59 |
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| joehuang | we can discuss with yili, about is there any other remote group id used | 12:59 |
| zhiyuan | ok | 12:59 |
| joehuang | I think current implementation is ok | 12:59 |
| joehuang | in Tricircle | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan | fine, so let's come back to our weekly meeting | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | ok | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 13:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:00 |
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| Pengfei | hello joehuang and zhiyuan | 13:01 |
| joehuang | ok, it works today | 13:01 |
| joehuang | hi pengfei | 13:01 |
| zhiyuan | hi pengfei | 13:01 |
| Yipei | hi all | 13:01 |
| joehuang | hi yipei | 13:01 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:01 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:02 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:02 |
| Pengfei | thanks for your support! and the L3 cross pod works! | 13:02 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:02 |
| Pengfei | #info Pengfei | 13:02 |
| joehuang | great, it's a quite good news, you can play it now | 13:02 |
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| zhiyuan | cool! | 13:03 |
| Pengfei | the virtualbox promiscous mode need to reboot, so after reboot and re stack.sh it works | 13:03 |
| joehuang | the virtualbox is running in server or desktop | 13:03 |
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| Pengfei | in server | 13:04 |
| Pengfei | using x11 to connect | 13:04 |
| joehuang | Linux based | 13:04 |
| Pengfei | ubuntu 14.04 | 13:04 |
| joehuang | or windows based | 13:04 |
| joehuang | ok | 13:04 |
| joehuang | it's a good idea to use virtual box to setup two nodes environment | 13:05 |
| zhiyuan | virtualbox is free and easy to install, so good to hear that Tricircle can be depolyed on virtualbox | 13:05 |
| Pengfei | hia,hia~ | 13:05 |
| joehuang | could you write a blog to have a summary of such an installation story | 13:05 |
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| Pengfei | bingo! | 13:05 |
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| zhiyuan | and then add a link in our wiki and readme | 13:06 |
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| joehuang | #action summary of two nodes installation in virtualbox | 13:06 |
| joehuang | hi, xiaojie | 13:06 |
| xuxiaojie | hi | 13:06 |
| joehuang | could you have a short introduction | 13:07 |
| Pengfei | No problems! and I will also implement the verify_cross_pod_install.sh | 13:07 |
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| Pengfei | hi~ | 13:07 |
| joehuang | good ! | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | Zhiyuan has submitted two SEG patches, please review the patches | 13:08 |
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| Pengfei | what's your develop environment? VMs or native servers? | 13:09 |
| joehuang | vms running above ESXi, managed by vCenter | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | and I also submitted the quota-set patch, your comment pls | 13:09 |
| zhiyuan | coding on PC, then upload to server to test | 13:09 |
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| Pengfei | i see. | 13:10 |
| joehuang | let's look at the agenda of today | 13:11 |
| joehuang | 1. Progress of To-do list review: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:11 |
| joehuang | and just have a short summary of the progress for zhiyuan and mine | 13:12 |
| joehuang | Pengfei finished the installation | 13:12 |
| joehuang | how about Yipei? | 13:12 |
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| Yipei | i still try to fix the bug of devstack, by the way, i find another bug of devstack | 13:12 |
| joehuang | interesting | 13:12 |
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| Yipei | #link https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/29f1ebb6885c22e94a225ba16a268aa26f60131c | 13:13 |
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| joehuang | do you use clean os to install devstack | 13:13 |
| Yipei | yes | 13:13 |
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| joehuang | the link is not accessible | 13:14 |
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| zhiyuan | can access under vpn | 13:14 |
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| joehuang | ok, you can report this bug to devstack | 13:15 |
| Yipei | ok | 13:15 |
| zhiyuan | yipei, according to the patch, entry point is used, maybe you can update your nova code and try again | 13:15 |
| joehuang | hi haixia | 13:15 |
| Yipei | ok | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | ok, Yipei, go on please | 13:16 |
| zhiyuan | yipei, you can check the "setup.cfg" file in your nova folder, to see if filter_scheduler is defined | 13:16 |
| Yipei | ok | 13:16 |
| joehuang | entry_point section? | 13:17 |
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| Yipei | no, it is not defined | 13:17 |
| zhiyuan | yes, if filter_scheduler is defined, can use it for shourt | 13:17 |
| zhiyuan | s/shourt/short | 13:17 |
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| Yipei | in which section? entry_point section? | 13:18 |
| joehuang | ok | 13:18 |
| joehuang | I think so | 13:18 |
| zhiyuan | oh yes, it's defined in the latest nova code | 13:18 |
| zhiyuan | check https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/setup.cfg | 13:19 |
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| zhiyuan | filter_scheduler = nova.scheduler.filter_scheduler:FilterScheduler | 13:19 |
| zhiyuan | Ln 196 | 13:19 |
| Pengfei | just now, i find http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tricircle is 404... | 13:19 |
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| joehuang | Hi, pengfei you are write, no doc yet | 13:20 |
| joehuang | sorry right | 13:20 |
| zhiyuan | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tricircle link for wiki | 13:20 |
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| Pengfei | ok~ | 13:21 |
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| Yipei | i see | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | Yipei, please continue your installation and discuss issue in #openstack-tricircle if needed | 13:21 |
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| Yipei | ok | 13:21 |
| joehuang | next topic is reliable async. job | 13:22 |
| joehuang | #topic reliable async. job | 13:22 |
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| joehuang | hi, zhiyuan, pls | 13:22 |
| zhiyuan | i have written a proposal in our design doc(hosted by google doc) | 13:23 |
| joehuang | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/18kZZ1snMOCD9IQvUKI5NVDzSASpw-QKj7l2zNqMEd3g/edit | 13:23 |
| zhiyuan | the brief idea is to save job entry in database, and each time only one worker is allowed to operate one specific resource | 13:24 |
| joehuang | address race condition by DB record level lock | 13:25 |
| zhiyuan | yes, other worker just create a new job entry for that resource with a new timestamp | 13:25 |
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| liuhaixia | sorry | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | welcome haixia | 13:26 |
| xuxiaojie | hi, haixia | 13:27 |
| liuhaixia | something wrong with my wireless network | 13:27 |
| joehuang | my concerns is that old expired job should be purged automaticly | 13:27 |
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| joehuang | especially successful job | 13:27 |
| zhiyuan | yes, job entry in "success" and "new"(not the latest one) status can be removed | 13:28 |
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| joehuang | hi, zhiyuan, should we have timer in xjob to pickup some orphan job? | 13:28 |
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| zhiyuan | i think so, since if the latest job fails, we need to redo it | 13:29 |
| joehuang | or only triggered by async task from api server | 13:29 |
| joehuang | so please update the doc with how these jobs will be started | 13:30 |
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| zhiyuan | ok, so we need a special worker who is responsible to redo failed job | 13:30 |
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| joehuang | ok, others can comment on the async. design, and check to see if something not included | 13:31 |
| zhiyuan | yes, I just would like to say that, pls comment on the doc | 13:31 |
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| joehuang | so next topic, cross pod L2 networking | 13:31 |
| joehuang | #topic cross pod L2 networking | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | hi, pengfei and haixia, you are all interested in L2 networking | 13:32 |
| joehuang | would you mind sharing your ideas? | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | #action update the doc with how these async. jobs will be started | 13:34 |
| liuhaixia | how does bottom openstacks connect l2 netwoks? with overlay netwoks,i think l2gw will implement in future. | 13:34 |
| liuhaixia | hi,joehuang, | 13:34 |
| joehuang | VxLAN later | 13:34 |
| joehuang | hi haixia, please | 13:35 |
| joehuang | and could you introduce yourself for a while | 13:35 |
| joehuang | this is the first time we meet here | 13:35 |
| liuhaixia | but how does vlan connect across openstack? | 13:35 |
| liuhaixia | i am studying on it | 13:35 |
| liuhaixia | hi, | 13:36 |
| joehuang | even for VLAN, I think we can also use what implemented in L2 networking with share VLAN | 13:36 |
| joehuang | two openstacks, same VLAN network means same L2 network across pod | 13:36 |
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| joehuang | and we can use physical VxLAN gateway to connect two same segment VLAN into one L2 network | 13:37 |
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| joehuang | but it rely on physical networking device | 13:38 |
| joehuang | I am not sure it's clear or not | 13:38 |
| liuhaixia | all. i am an engineer in huawei.for recent years,working on sdn for l2 and l3 netwoks in datacenter. | 13:38 |
| joehuang | for this way, the number of cross openstack L2 networking will be quite limited | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | thanks haixia | 13:40 |
| joehuang | hi, pengfei, your ideas on cross pod L2 networking? | 13:40 |
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| Pengfei | sorry, i do something just now | 13:41 |
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| Pengfei | i know a little about the knowledge with this, maybe i need to think more | 13:42 |
| liuhaixia | i am sorry for reacting so slowly, for i have to join meeting with my cellphone | 13:42 |
| joehuang | it's hard mode | 13:42 |
| liuhaixia | does vtn can sovle this? | 13:42 |
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| zhiyuan | i think so, i am using vpn now | 13:43 |
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| joehuang | yes, VPN used | 13:43 |
| liuhaixia | i bought vpn, | 13:43 |
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| joehuang | ok, for L2 networking, some rough design were added in the google doc, please review and let's talk next time to see which one we start first, and how to work on it | 13:45 |
| joehuang | the last topic, quota management, just one patch submitted | 13:46 |
| BeanZhang | Hi, all | 13:46 |
| joehuang | more patch needed for quota control | 13:46 |
| BeanZhang | sorry for late | 13:46 |
| joehuang | Hi Bean, longtime no see | 13:46 |
| BeanZhang | i just finish an interview | 13:46 |
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| BeanZhang | pls continue | 13:47 |
| joehuang | please review the patch, thanks | 13:47 |
| joehuang | any other topics? | 13:48 |
| zhiyuan | not for me | 13:48 |
| Yipei | no for me | 13:48 |
| BeanZhang | ok, i will try to review | 13:48 |
| joehuang | thanks | 13:48 |
| BeanZhang | no topic for me | 13:48 |
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| joehuang | so let's conclude the meeting | 13:49 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 13:49:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-02-13.00.html | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-02-13.00.txt | 13:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-02-13.00.log.html | 13:49 |
| joehuang | bye | 13:49 |
| zhiyuan | bye~ | 13:49 |
| Pengfei | bye~ | 13:49 |
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| BeanZhang | bye~ | 13:49 |
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| Zara | anyone around for the storyboard meeting? | 14:59 |
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| betherly | o/ | 14:59 |
| SotK | o/ | 14:59 |
| Zara | it starts in 1 minute, 1 minute remaining | 14:59 |
| Zara | :D | 14:59 |
| betherly | hey i got there before SotK today! | 14:59 |
| Zara | well done! | 14:59 |
| Zara | there's a prize | 14:59 |
| betherly | thats gotta be a first :p | 14:59 |
| betherly | YAY! | 14:59 |
| Zara | the prize is feeling great about yourself | 15:00 |
| Zara | enjoy | 15:00 |
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| betherly | lol! | 15:00 |
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| Zara | who wants to chair | 15:00 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 15:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 15:01 |
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| Zara | (oh, in the time it took me to correct my typo in #startmeeting storyborad...) | 15:01 |
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| SotK | sorry :) | 15:01 |
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| Zara | :) I don't *think* we have any announcements | 15:01 |
| SotK | I can make you chair if you like :) | 15:01 |
| Zara | nah, I'm fine | 15:02 |
| SotK | heh, ok | 15:02 |
| SotK | I don't think we have announcements either | 15:02 |
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| SotK | any urgent things? | 15:02 |
| Zara | nothing new | 15:02 |
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| Zara | we still have no dev instance, I'm tempted to artificially bump the urgency so something happens | 15:04 |
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| Zara | but that'd be mean | 15:04 |
| SotK | oops | 15:04 |
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| SotK | #action SotK to sort out a dev instance soon | 15:04 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 15:05 |
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| SotK | #info Worklists and Boards is still ongoing | 15:05 |
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| Zara | (re: dev instance, if it's still 'soon' next weds, I'll request specifics.) | 15:05 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:due-dates Due Dates patches | 15:06 |
| SotK | (fair enough) | 15:06 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:06 |
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| Zara | there are lots! | 15:06 |
| betherly | definiton due-dates patches? | 15:06 |
| betherly | ie is that things that have urgency to them? | 15:07 |
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| persia | Rather, it is a set of patches to allow people to indicate that a given task has a date. | 15:07 |
| persia | It might be a near date (urgent) or a far date (e.g. release goal) | 15:07 |
| betherly | ahhh yes. my bad | 15:07 |
| Zara | heh, yeah, there's some context here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000476 | 15:07 |
| betherly | i did know that. having a brain malfunction | 15:07 |
| Zara | np, I can see how the sentence was ambiguous xD | 15:07 |
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| betherly | awesome thanks for the link Zara | 15:08 |
| Zara | hm, I should link it for the logs | 15:08 |
| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000476 | 15:08 |
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| Zara | the api patches are merged (except the archiving cards patch, iirc), so the above are the UI patches | 15:09 |
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| SotK | I'm looking at automatic worklists today, with success so far :D | 15:09 |
| persia | \o/ | 15:09 |
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| Zara | yes, \o/ \o/ \o/! | 15:10 |
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| SotK | anything else in progress? | 15:12 |
| Zara | I've mainly been reviewing this week. | 15:13 |
| Zara | boolean search has been merged, though! | 15:13 |
| Zara | oh, this is still in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278987/ | 15:13 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278987/ | 15:13 |
| Zara | that's the patch which changes header 'search' to 'jump to...' and removes the magnifying glass, in an attempt to limit search confusion | 15:14 |
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| betherly | oh awesome ill review that now | 15:14 |
| SotK | \o/ thanks betherly | 15:14 |
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| betherly | that was an easy review lol! 2 lines of code and html at that :D | 15:15 |
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| Zara | and then current plan is to make header 'search' work more like the tags search does currently, with the titles as criteria | 15:15 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:15 |
| Zara | so that's what I'll be looking at either late this week or early next week | 15:15 |
| Zara | depending on how due dates review goes, I think | 15:15 |
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| betherly | is the plan then to remove the search navigation from the left? | 15:16 |
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| Zara | yes, I'd like to remove it now; I need to rework the other search patch | 15:16 |
| betherly | ok cool | 15:16 |
| Zara | because otherwise mobile users have no nice way to search | 15:16 |
| betherly | ++ | 15:17 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279204/ | 15:17 |
| Zara | we talked in the comments there, another thing to do at the end of this week/start of next week, thanks for reminding me | 15:17 |
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| Zara | but yeah, mainly reviewing. some of the earlier due-date patches need some reviews, btw | 15:19 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278508/6 | 15:20 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284275/4 | 15:20 |
| Zara | all others depend on those so I'm just making sure they don't get forgotten about | 15:20 |
| Zara | (sorry to go back to earlier topic) | 15:20 |
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| Zara | that's what I'm up to at the moment, anyway. | 15:21 |
| SotK | anything else? | 15:22 |
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| Zara | I don't think so. there are other vague things on the horizon but I don't think I'll be doing much beyond review, and search patches, before next meeting | 15:23 |
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| Zara | anyone else? | 15:24 |
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| betherly | ill try and make a start on the flow diagram for the about page and keep looking into solutions for how to go about it | 15:24 |
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| Zara | cool, thanks :D | 15:25 |
| * SotK is excited for that | 15:25 | |
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| betherly | yay | 15:26 |
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| SotK | #topic Email Config | 15:28 |
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| * SotK doesn't know what to do about this | 15:29 | |
| Zara | neither do I. :/ I'm acting as a human notifications service in the meantime | 15:29 |
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| SotK | we could poke some more, or ask to take over the patch if any of us had time to test it/figure out whats wrong | 15:30 |
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| Zara | yeah, I think I'll poke in infra; I don't think I have time to learn puppet and test and work out what's going on. :( | 15:31 |
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| Zara | especially since last time I tried to take over a patch, everything went up in flames | 15:31 |
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| SotK | sounds good to me | 15:32 |
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| SotK | #topic UX Meetup | 15:35 |
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| SotK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-ux-meetup | 15:35 |
| SotK | thanks for coming betherly :) | 15:35 |
| persia | Hurrah: the topic for which I've been waiting. It seems folk discussed "bugs" vs. "tasks". This seems to come up a lot. What is the difference? | 15:35 |
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| * persia has seen lots of arguments over "bug" vs. "feature" in the past, and doesn't want any metadata to express this without *very* clear semantic distinctions and consensus on the utility of the information to some consumer. | 15:37 | |
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| betherly | was a great day yesterday thanks for having me SotK Zara | 15:37 |
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| betherly | persia: so tasks are requests and things to do | 15:38 |
| * SotK personally thinks they are both mostly the same thing: "a thing that requires work to be done to achieve a goal" | 15:38 | |
| betherly | bugs are issues that are blockers or just things that need fixing | 15:38 |
| qwebirc93330 | Hello, is there a cutoff upto when the code from master will be included in mitaka/stable? | 15:39 |
| persia | betherly: So, if something "needs fixing", isn't this a representation of a request to do something? | 15:39 |
| betherly | so for example, with the ironic-ui, a task might be to 'add a node' functionality | 15:39 |
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| persia | If something is "blocking", doesn't that mean someone should do something, and so be requested? | 15:39 |
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| betherly | but a bug might be that the 'add a node' functionality exists but isnt working correctly | 15:39 |
| persia | Ah, so perhaps you are differentiating between "regression" and "non-regression"? | 15:39 |
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| persia | As in, something that used to do something doesn't is a "bug" and something that has never done it would be a "feature"? | 15:40 |
| betherly | yes exactly. or an addition to something that already exists | 15:40 |
| persia | WHich is the "addition"? | 15:40 |
| betherly | but a bug is an issue with something that exists that isnt working correctly | 15:40 |
| Zara | (to me, bug vs feature is a distinction to make at the story level, and tasks are 'things to do' in both features and bugs. so I don't think of it in terms of tasks vs bugs, and the discussion didn't change my mind on that.) | 15:40 |
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| * SotK agrees that if we distinguish, it should be at the story level | 15:41 | |
| persia | To me, a story should be written to describe desired behaviour, and it doesn't much matter whether someone tried to implement it before or not, as long as it isn't working today. | 15:41 |
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| persia | Or rather, as long as we can tell whether it works as described today. | 15:41 |
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| persia | Now, I'm arguing against any "bug" vs. "feature" vs. "task", etc. distinction, but to be clear, some of the arguments I've seen in the past include needing to differentiate on whether something is a regression, needing to differentiate on whether something is planned/unplanned, needing to differentiate whether a request comes from users vs. product management, etc. | 15:43 |
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| Zara | qwebirc93330: storyboard follows the independent release model; it's continuous delivery. does that help? | 15:43 |
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| persia | I'd be happy to hear other potential discriminators, and perhaps we could reflect some or all of them, but let's be careful to be clear, so different consumers don't interpret things differently, and argue about whether a given flag should be set. | 15:44 |
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| * SotK thinks tags could provide a bunch of that if used properly | 15:45 | |
| SotK | i.e. if you are product management making a request, add a tag which signifies that | 15:45 |
| Zara | yeah, I personally am fine with people just using tags. | 15:45 |
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| Zara | if enough people want to use the same ones, we look at making a special bit of metadata for them, but only then | 15:45 |
| persia | Are there parts of the "bugs vs. tasks" discussion from yesterday that can7t be implemented with tags? | 15:45 |
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| SotK | I think there was a desire to be able to show dependencies somehow | 15:47 |
| betherly | im just thinking of going back to launchpad in particular where we submit bugs and blueprints seperately | 15:47 |
| SotK | "we can't do B whilst bug A exists" | 15:47 |
| Zara | yeah, tasks that block other tasks. | 15:47 |
| betherly | but ye i guess could be done with tags | 15:47 |
| betherly | yep dependencies is a good idea to have for sure | 15:47 |
| betherly | how to display that though is a hard one | 15:47 |
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| persia | LP doesn't support dependencies: it's something that was argued extensively for years, and actively blocked by some of the LP product folk. | 15:48 |
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| persia | I'm not entirely opposed to them, but it is important to understand precisely what is being expressed. | 15:48 |
| Zara | I think it can get very complicated fast, where most of the time people just end up remembering what their blockers are anyway, or reading a comment in the description. | 15:48 |
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| Zara | theoretically you could use the 'link' field in a task to link to a blocking task and not bother modelling it any deeper than that. | 15:49 |
| persia | Do "links" have a text field where someone can describe the relation? If so, that provides flexibility. | 15:49 |
| persia | Although it makes it hard to search for tasks that are blocked, or are not blocked. | 15:50 |
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| Zara | I'm not sure that's a problem. people generally want to know 'is this specific task I'm interested in blocked?'. the exception is maybe a manager, who'd want to know if people on their team were blocked, but I think they'd have other primary channels for that. | 15:52 |
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| persia | To me, unblocked is the more interesting seach, from the perspective of "how can I (realisitically) help?" | 15:53 |
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| SotK | perhaps allowing a story/task (idk where we want to model dependency) to have an arbitrary list of other tasks/stories they depend on, and if that list has contents that aren't "merged", the story/task is blocked | 15:54 |
| Zara | links don't currently allow a user to add extra text information, but we could extend them easily enough (technically a user can put whatever text they like in a link, but extra text would then stop the link from functioning as a link, because it's just wrapped in <a> tags). | 15:55 |
| * SotK can see a task needing a link and also being blocked | 15:55 | |
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| Zara | I'd really rather not model dependency at all | 15:56 |
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| Zara | it seems like a lot of hassle for very little gain, since I think most cases would be solved by a 'btw we're blocked by x' next to the task | 15:56 |
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| Zara | worst case scenario, you end up chasing a load of links in a circle, which will probably be a problem with modelling it too | 15:57 |
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| * SotK would be equally happy with saying "put links in the description if you want them", but that doesn't allow searching | 15:58 | |
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| Zara | similarly, I think asking 'where can I help' on irc is always going to be better. | 15:58 |
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| Zara | nearly out of time | 15:59 |
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| SotK | we can continue in #storyboard if people want, our time is up | 15:59 |
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| Zara | snappish | 15:59 |
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| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 15:59:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-02-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-02-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| betherly | thanks all | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-02-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| SotK | thanks betherly | 15:59 |
| SotK | + all | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 16:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Courtesy ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Thanks | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
| cFouts | hi | 16:00 |
| dulek | Hi! | 16:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | Hi | 16:00 |
| yhayashi | hello | 16:00 |
| vincent_hou | hi | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey all | 16:00 |
| akerr | o/ | 16:00 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:00 |
| adrianofr_ | Hi | 16:00 |
| sheel | hello all | 16:00 |
| thingee | o/ | 16:00 |
| scottda | hey | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| baumann | Hello! | 16:00 |
| ntpttr | Hi | 16:00 |
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| mc_nair | hey | 16:01 |
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| xyang1 | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release status | 16:01 |
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| jgriffith | aloha | 16:01 |
| Swanson | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Yesterday was our published feature freeze for Cinder. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | I will be cutting M-3 as soon as a couple final patches finish working through gate. | 16:01 |
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| dulek | Whee! :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | We can still accept bug fixes, but we need to start locking down and focusing on final testing and RC prep. | 16:02 |
| e0ne | good news! | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | So reviewers, please keep that in mind. | 16:02 |
| sheel | 👍 | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | There are a lot of good patches out there right now, but we need to start deciding if it is worth getting in M or safer to wait. | 16:03 |
| * thingee starts marking reviews accordingly | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | At the end of this week is also soft string freeze. | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | So even for those bug fixes we want in - please start to pay attention to unnecessary string changes. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Our translation folks already have an impossible job as it is. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | So if we can help limit that load at all, it will be good. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | OK, that's all I really had to say. Any questions or other things anyone wants to point out? | 16:05 |
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| dulek | I haven't read a confirmation on RPC version bumps. | 16:05 |
| dulek | So these patches will be allowed just before RC-1? | 16:05 |
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| DuncanT | We said we'd keep accepting cheesecake driver patches through feature freeze, right? | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | dulek: I think that's probably safest. You think so? | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Correct. Repl patches should be treated as bug fixes at this point. | 16:06 |
| dulek | It won't be end of the world if we end up not merging them, but it would be cool to clean up before the release. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | But the sooner we can help work those through, the better. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | dulek: I agree. | 16:06 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I'm okay. I would love some help with testing - if anyone is willing to help. | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | dulek: +1 | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #topic A lot of TODO tags in cinder code | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Hey | 16:07 |
| sheel | smcginnis: hey | 16:07 |
| sheel | hello all | 16:07 |
| sheel | actually this is regarding TODO tags present in the cinder code | 16:07 |
| sheel | I think its more than 100 places where we could see these TODO | 16:07 |
| * jgriffith hides in the corner | 16:07 | |
| smcginnis | I think we did a push at the beginning of Juno IIRC. | 16:07 |
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| sheel | some are really important to follow | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah, there's no hiding for you! | 16:08 |
| sheel | but some can be removed | 16:08 |
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| jgriffith | stupid initials | 16:08 |
| sheel | jgriffith: haha | 16:08 |
| eharney | really important TODOs should have bugs written | 16:08 |
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| sheel | eharney: +! | 16:08 |
| * flip214 has 14 in the one driver, ouch | 16:08 | |
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| geguileo | eharney: What if those TODOs are for future releases? | 16:08 |
| sheel | total 110 + | 16:08 |
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| geguileo | Like things that are marked TODO because they are related to rolling upgrades changes | 16:09 |
| sheel | So, we can create bug and add then to outreachy | 16:09 |
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| geguileo | That require multiple releases changes | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | grep -R TODO cinder/* --include="*.py" | grep jdg | wc -l | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Only 10 | 16:09 |
| dulek | geguileo: I guess we can start creating bugs after the release. | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: +1 | 16:09 |
| dulek | But most of rolling-upgrades related TODOs are like free commits. | 16:09 |
| sheel | 10 are there in dell driver only | 16:10 |
| flip214 | is there some other tag that should be used for reminders? | 16:10 |
| dulek | So I think these will be cleared pretty fast. ;) | 16:10 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: hehe | 16:10 |
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| jgriffith | LOL | 16:10 |
| geguileo | dulek: I have a good bunch of TODOs in my job distribution patches | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | I blame Swanson | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Oh how the tide can turn. | 16:10 |
| Swanson | Swanson: TODO means not going to happen, right? | 16:10 |
| flip214 | of course, pushing a commit that removes these comments is easy, but I, for my part, put them in for a reason... ;) | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | I do think it's good to review these every once in a while. | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | There are a few different types. | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | Some that really do need to be addressed. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Some that are just notes that really we should try to improve something at some point in the future. | 16:11 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: is it ok to assign respective members and decide if bug creation is required or removal is ok | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | And some that are just notes that it should be done, but it's not likely worth the effort to make it happen. | 16:11 |
| Swanson | If they've been in there for a couple releases and nothing has happened then it isn't a problem and they can be deleted. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Yeah, I think that would be good. | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | Swanson: haha.. there are some that I ported from Nova Volume in there still | 16:12 |
| sheel | jgriffith: plz stare at me.. | 16:12 |
| sheel | jgriffith: haha | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Didn't we do an etherpad in Juno for all of the tags to track and make sure they were all at least inspected? | 16:12 |
| sheel | *dont stare | 16:12 |
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| jgriffith | sheel: :) | 16:12 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: we did | 16:12 |
| dulek | jgriffith: I love the ones from "inital fork from nova". :D | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I don't recall - did that work well? | 16:13 |
| geguileo | dulek: lol | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | dulek: I'm getting to them... :) | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah, right! | 16:13 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: not sure, because we can't remove all TODO's | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | sheel: so if you're interested and nobody (looks at smcginnis ) objects... | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | sheel: maybe it would be good to compile a list/ehterpad and start there | 16:13 |
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| sheel | jgriffith: yes its ok | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | I agree with eharney that some should probably be bugs, but I know a bunch are just editorial | 16:14 |
| dulek | jgriffith: It's smart you're using different IRC and TODO handles. It took me a while to figure out these weren't added by some guy from Nova. | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think that would be good. | 16:14 |
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| sheel | jgriffith: i will be behind you all to get informatino about these TODOs | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | dulek: LOL.. that *used* to be my irc handle till some evil doer registered it before me | 16:14 |
| sheel | jgriffith: for bug creatino and all | 16:14 |
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| sheel | hope its ok to go like this | 16:15 |
| sheel | ? | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | sheel: sounds reasonable to me | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | sheel: we can even just mark some as "remove" and be done with it | 16:15 |
| sheel | jgriffith: ok 👍 | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Good plan. | 16:15 |
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| dulek | +1 | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Anything else to discuss here? | 16:15 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: :) | 16:15 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: :) | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | We can discuss more in channel as we work through them. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Thanks for bringing it up. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #topic API working group is changing microversion headers | 16:16 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: no its done i think | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Hi | 16:16 |
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| scottda | Hi | 16:17 |
| scottda | So, the api working group is about to merge a patch that changes guidance on microversion headers: | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243414/ API guidelines | 16:17 |
| scottda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243414/ | 16:17 |
| sheel | multiple headers | 16:17 |
| scottda | I've bug and patch for this: | 16:17 |
| scottda | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1551941 | 16:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1551941 in Cinder "api microversion header should conform to new guidlines" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Scott DAngelo (scott-dangelo) | 16:17 |
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| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/286901 | 16:18 |
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| scottda | Patch should be un-WIP'ed soon. I just want to add a unit test or two. | 16:18 |
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| scottda | This is a string change, so should be in before string freeze. And certainly before release. | 16:18 |
| scottda | So, "Heads Up Reviewers" | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks. We definitely should follow the api-wg direction. | 16:19 |
| sheel | scottda: +1 | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | scottda: smcginnis just to clarify.... | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | scottda: smcginnis where does this fall in with M, freeze dates etc etc | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | I think it's a bug fix, so we have a little time. Not much though. | 16:20 |
| scottda | jgriffith: It should be fixed in M, before we ship with old style header | 16:20 |
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| scottda | And is a string change, so should be ahead of string freeze. | 16:20 |
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| jgriffith | Ok, cool | 16:20 |
| scottda | That's it. Just something that popped up yesterday. I'm done. | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Testing Cinder with Latest Oslo code | 16:21 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: You're up cap'n. | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks. | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | So, Oslo now has periodic tests they can run with the latest Oslo libraries that makes sure that their changes don't break anything. | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | The reached out to the Liaisons to ask if the projects wanted to add this testing. | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | I don't see any reason not to do it but wanted to make people aware here. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Better chance to avoid Oslo merging anything that breaks us in the future. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Would be good to have a better chance of finding breaking changes sooner. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: make it so | 16:24 |
| patrickeast | Is there any downside? Seems like we definitely would want to do it | 16:24 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: it's a great idea to have such tests | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: jgriffith Cool. That was what I figured people would say. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Not aware of any. | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | I will follow up and make it happen. | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Thanks for the heads up. I do think it will be a good thing. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Anything else on that or oslo in general? | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Agreed. I will let you all know when it is happening. | 16:25 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: do you know why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284150/ is abandoned? | 16:25 |
| e0ne | dims: ^^ | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: No other Oslo news right now. They are locked down for Mitaka at this point. | 16:25 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: Not sure. Would have to follow up with dims_ | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Good, hopefully we start to have a little stability now that library freeze is passed. | 16:26 |
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| * jungleboyj crosses fingers. | 16:26 | |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I had the impression that was just a test patch. | 16:26 |
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| dulek | e0ne: Wasn't it a single DO-NOT-MERGE patch to try out the libs? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:27 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: I've got one :) | 16:27 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, dulek: thanks, looks you're right | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Anyone other than jgriffith? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:27 |
| sheel | smcginnis: I have some questions... | 16:27 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:27 |
| vivekd | smcginnis: i've got one | 16:27 |
| vivekd | :-) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: What's up? :) | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088007.html http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088007.html and http://docs-draft.openstack.org/81/286981/1/check/gate-cinder-docs/e2a244e//doc/build/html/devref/attach_detach_conventions.html | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | vivekd: You're next. | 16:28 |
| vivekd | ok | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | I know it's not an M thing, but I'd like it if folks could take a look at those things. In particular the direction I would like to go in this WIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284867/ | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | that's all | 16:28 |
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| smcginnis | Would be very nice if we can get that sorted once and for all in N. | 16:28 |
| vivekd | i'll start after jgriffith is done | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | vivekd: I'm done :) | 16:29 |
| sheel | :) | 16:29 |
| scottda | jgriffith: Can I add you to the Interested Persons list https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes | 16:29 |
| vivekd | i've a proposal on cinder service topics configurability. | 16:29 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: thanks for the patch! I'll take a look on it and test later this week | 16:29 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: sure | 16:29 |
| vivekd | i see that we've volume_topic, backup_topic as config options to let users configure the topics that the respective service nodes listen on. | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: cool... note that the idea is to just stop the connector passing stuff and just eventually return an attachment ID | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: You just filed a bug on the topic thing, right? | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: sheel the "todo's" in the code should explain it :) | 16:30 |
| vivekd | but from dulek comment @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286976/ | 16:30 |
| vivekd | i see that the conf values of topics are never used in the code. | 16:30 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: so, I can't -1 for TODO's? :( | 16:30 |
| vivekd | and that i think is enough evidence that no one really uses that feature. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | vivekd: Oh yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. | 16:30 |
| vivekd | my opinion is that these features are not really adding any value. | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | vivekd: :) | 16:30 |
| vivekd | so can we remove that feature - "configurability of topics"? | 16:31 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, I'm changing the todo's to note: | 16:31 |
| dulek | vivekd: I'm also confused on how to approach everything correctly. | 16:31 |
| lixiaoy11 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1301888 this one is about topic | 16:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1301888 in Cinder "cinder services doesn't honor _topic setting in config" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lisa Li (lisali) | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Anyone with background on topic usage and why we might want it? | 16:31 |
| vivekd | that will reduce the confusion | 16:31 |
| sheel | Swanson: let me compile, is it ok to do it in one go | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | is lixiaoy11 here? | 16:31 |
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| smcginnis | lixiaoy11: Thanks! | 16:31 |
| lixiaoy11 | jgriffith: yes | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | vivekd: smcginnis I was talking with lixiaoy11 about this last night | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | Oh... yeah.. there you are :) | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | sorry | 16:32 |
| vivekd | i tried to look through git logs but cuoldnt figure out much | 16:32 |
| dulek | So my perception when commenting on vivekd's patch was we should fix it. | 16:32 |
| geguileo | vivekd: Are you sure it is not being used? | 16:32 |
| geguileo | vivekd: I kind of think it is... | 16:32 |
| dulek | And let services to connect to configured topics. | 16:32 |
| vivekd | yes geguileo | 16:32 |
| lixiaoy11 | vivekd: there is problem in the codes that we don't hornor topic | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | geguileo: so I tried setting it last night and it blows everything up | 16:32 |
| dulek | geguileo: World breaks when you change volume_topic. ;) | 16:32 |
| Poornima | folks anything I can do to move ahead https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235752/ | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | geguileo: if you set it you get no rpc | 16:32 |
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| * jgriffith thinks he had a TODO to implement that after moving it from nova-volume :) | 16:33 | |
| vivekd | :-) | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:33 |
| geguileo | Shouldn't we fix that? | 16:33 |
| dulek | Now if we drop these config options instead of fixing that - is it making things easier for anyone? | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Either fix or remove. | 16:33 |
| DuncanT | Poornima: I'm looking at a bug in that very code patch now, as it happens, so I'd like to see them run somewhere | 16:33 |
| geguileo | I think fixing is the right direction | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | I guess at this point, I'm looking for justification why not to just remove. | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | dulek: I'd say yes... because it's one lest edge case that we ignore | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | It's obviously not being used if no one noticed until now that it's broken. | 16:34 |
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| DuncanT | If they've never worked, remove them | 16:34 |
| mtanino | geguileo: hi, If you have a chance, could you visit the LIO backport patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283085/ | 16:34 |
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| vivekd | +1 DuncanT | 16:34 |
| DuncanT | We've got too many already | 16:34 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: That's kinda what I'm thinking. | 16:34 |
| dulek | Okay, if anyone will propose a patch removing them I'll comment if I would be able to justify a use case. | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | I'd at the very least mark it as deprecated like right *NOW* | 16:34 |
| lixiaoy11 | DuncanT: at least in liberty, and now it doesn't work, +1 | 16:35 |
| Poornima | DuncanT, sure since new to cinder would like to checkin api flow | 16:35 |
| dulek | Right now the only one would be having two Cinder deployments on single RabbitMQ. | 16:35 |
| vivekd | i can submit a patch to remove them smcginnis dulek | 16:35 |
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| jgriffith | then consider just removing it altogether, unless we find out that the problem is just that none of us are configuring things correctly :) | 16:35 |
| dulek | Well, maybe it's a valid use case, but since it wasn't possible in the past… | 16:35 |
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| lixiaoy11 | vivekd: I think you can take the above bug | 16:35 |
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| DuncanT | Poornima: I think we need to go through the cinder tempest tests and split out the ones that should gate everybody .v. the ones that should only gate cinder, and make a new gate job for the latter | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Remove, and if someone comes along needing that functionality we can add it then. Once we know someone actually needs/wants it. | 16:36 |
| DuncanT | Poornima: It's going to be a Newton timeframe task though | 16:36 |
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| tbarron | do we know that this never worked? or just that it doesn't work now? | 16:36 |
| dulek | What about deprecation period? It wasn't working, so we can skip it? | 16:36 |
| vivekd | ok smcginnis | 16:36 |
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| tbarron | there are lots of customers out there running juno ... | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: +1 to further elaborate, my thought was any test you can run with just [cinder, mysql, keystone, rabbit] and possibly Glance | 16:37 |
| DuncanT | Can anybody test it on juno/kilo? See how long it's been broken | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: next iteration would be SWIFT I suppose for the backup stuff | 16:37 |
| Poornima | DuncanT, alright do we have a bug created for it or ill create a new bug | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | dulek: I'm thinking if it really was non-functional it doesn't need to be deprecated. | 16:37 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: For some tests, sure, for this you'd need swift and barbican too | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | It kind of implicitly has been in that case. | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: like I said... "next" iteration | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:38 |
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| DuncanT | jgriffith: I think there's certainly room for a bunch of tests that run on a very cutdown system, for sure | 16:38 |
| dulek | tbarron: Just looked through "initial commit out of nova". No, it wasn't working since Grizzly. | 16:38 |
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| tbarron | dulek: ty! | 16:38 |
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| dulek | tbarron: I mean yes, it wasn't working since Grizzly. :P | 16:38 |
| DuncanT | dulek: Terminate with prejudice then IMO | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: +1 | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | dulek: I wasn't joking when I said I had a TODO for that | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | :( | 16:39 |
| tbarron | dulek: yeah, that's how I understood you | 16:39 |
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| DuncanT | 'git blame' says it is all jgriffith's fault | 16:40 |
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| dulek | :) Thanks for raising this up vivekd, I should have proposed an agenda item instead of commenting on your patch with solution. | 16:40 |
| vivekd | :-) | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | damn you GiT! | 16:40 |
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| vivekd | np dulek | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:40 |
| vivekd | :-) | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else? Or should we get 19 minutes back to review bug fixes and do testing? :) | 16:41 |
| sheel | ok guys, if done, could i go ahead with my queries ? | 16:41 |
| mmandel | Can I please get 1 more core to review this change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238722/ | 16:41 |
| sheel | smcginnis: i am there | 16:41 |
| lixiaoy11 | I have one | 16:41 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: GO ahead | 16:41 |
| sheel | smcginnis: jgriffith and all other members : do we have any notes for below | 16:41 |
| sheel | 1. migration procedure - for testing purpose. | 16:42 |
| sheel | 2. how to setup multi backends (multiple cinder nodes), backup nodes, ceph nodes.... | 16:42 |
| sheel | 3. how can we fake drivers... | 16:42 |
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| sheel | As I used to have lot of suggestions, I want to propose them to add to trainings | 16:42 |
| eharney | mmandel: i was reviewing that patch, i'll look at it again today | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | Documentation?! | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:42 |
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| mmandel | eharney: great, thanks very much! | 16:42 |
| sheel | smcginnis: yup | 16:42 |
| dulek | sheel: #1 is definitely in devref | 16:42 |
| sheel | dulek: great, could you give a pointer | 16:43 |
| dulek | sheel: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/migration.html | 16:43 |
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| sheel | dulek: thanks | 16:43 |
| sheel | Also, why we add this to devref and all...why dont we add these topics to openstack trainings ? | 16:43 |
| thingee | a little neat program I found if you're a vim user... rst live rendering https://github.com/Rykka/InstantRst | 16:44 |
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| vincent_hou | For anything regarding migration, you can find me. | 16:44 |
| sheel | means any specific agenda behind this | 16:44 |
| sheel | thingee: yep, thats cool, i refered it today | 16:44 |
| vincent_hou | I wrote http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/migration.html | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | thingee: oh, nice! | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | thingee: Nice! Missed the dev tools at the midcycle. :) | 16:44 |
| thingee | keep in mind that the python server part has a bug, but I made a pullrequest https://github.com/Rykka/instant-rst.py/pull/11 | 16:44 |
| sheel | vincent_hou: cool, btw I meant db migration | 16:45 |
| vincent_hou | sheel: oh. | 16:45 |
| sheel | any pointers to below : | 16:45 |
| sheel | 2. how to setup multi backends (multiple cinder nodes), backup nodes, ceph nodes.... | 16:45 |
| sheel | 3. how can we fake drivers... | 16:45 |
| dulek | Weren't there more opens to talk through before presenting dev tools? :) | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: What openstack trainings were you referring to? | 16:46 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: openstack/training-guides | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | sheel: Multi-backend configuration is documented if you google for multi-backend configuration. | 16:46 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Would be good to have something in there. I'm not sure who does those though. | 16:47 |
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| sheel | jungleboyj: i tried...but some misses..could not successed.. | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Or if folks even know about them much. They're fairly new IIRC. | 16:47 |
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| jungleboyj | sheel: Come to our presentation at the Summit. ;-) | 16:48 |
| sheel | I sew Mike Prez added for IRC tool @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286941/ | 16:48 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: I am planning...I voted for your presentation.. | 16:48 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: :) | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo | sheel :) | 16:48 |
| sheel | :) | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:49 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: may be you can leak your presentation even before summit... | 16:49 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: haha | 16:49 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: I would take that reference for setup :) | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Talk to diablo_rojo | 16:50 |
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| sheel | jungleboyj: diablo_rojo: sure | 16:50 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:50 |
| Poornima | sheel, does those include developer training :) | 16:50 |
| sheel | ok, one more point left | 16:51 |
| sheel | how can we fake drivers.. | 16:51 |
| sheel | Poornima: I will share link | 16:51 |
| sheel | Poornima: https://github.com/openstack/training-guides | 16:52 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: ok, I am asking specifically... is there any way to fake dell driver for testing code on my hp laptop :) | 16:53 |
| Poornima | sheel, cool thx | 16:53 |
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| Swanson | sheel, No, buy a storage center. | 16:53 |
| sheel | smcginnis: I am interested in participating in driver code in cinder....so eager to no | 16:53 |
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| sheel | Swanson: I will think when i will be 60+. will have some money till then at least for buying :) | 16:54 |
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| sheel | Swanson: :) | 16:54 |
| sheel | Swanson: means there is no other way, right? | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | Some vendors supply an array simulator. | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | Theoretically you could run that on your laptop and use it as a Cinder backend. | 16:55 |
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| dulek | xyang1: Don't we have FakeDriver/GateDriver? | 16:55 |
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| xyang1 | dulek: yes | 16:55 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: ok | 16:56 |
| sheel | xyang1: dulek: any pointer | 16:56 |
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| xyang1 | dulek: it is fake_driver under tests | 16:56 |
| sheel | *dulek have almost every answer...great | 16:56 |
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| sheel | xyang1: ohk.. | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | 3 minutes. Anything else we need to hold the meeting channel for? | 16:57 |
| sheel | I am done | 16:57 |
| flip214 | a free beer would be nie | 16:58 |
| flip214 | *nice | 16:58 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone. | 16:58 |
| geguileo | Thanks everyone | 16:58 |
| smcginnis | flip214: ;) | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:58 |
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| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 16:58:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-02-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-02-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-02-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 17:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | Hello everyone. | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | The agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:00 |
| mjturek1 | hey o/ | 17:00 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | I don't have any announcements. | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | Does anyone else? | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | Okay, moving on | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #topic Grenade testing | 17:02 |
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| jlvillal | So I made some progress since last week's meeting. | 17:02 |
| mgould | o/ | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | Had to work around a regression issue in stable/liberty | 17:02 |
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| sambetts | o/ | 17:03 |
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| jlvillal | #info There is a regression issue in stable/liberty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1549095 jlvillal will likely propose a work-around patch for the issue. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549095 in Ironic "devstack fails while running Ironic grenade job: init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'token'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John L. Villalovos (happycamp) | 17:03 |
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| jlvillal | #info Have not come to a solution on how to make Grenade only test baremetal things. A solution that is acceptable to be pushed upstream is not yet found. Have a working local solution (jlvillal) | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | #info Test harness that jlvillal developed: https://github.com/JohnVillalovos/devstack-gate-test | 17:04 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | #info Current status is can get devstack test to pass the stable/liberty portion. It then fails when it goes to the next step in the process. | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | I have not had much time so far this week to make additional progress | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | I know mgould had been doing some work on it. | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | mgould: Anything to add? Any ideas on cause of current failure? | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | mgould: ? | 17:07 |
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| * jlvillal knows mgould said he was attending another meeting. So he might not have our full attention :) | 17:07 | |
| jlvillal | I don't have anything else on Grenade testing. Any questions? | 17:07 |
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| mgould | sorry, just saw the notification :-) | 17:07 |
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| mgould | I've also been hacking on grenade, but have no progress to report | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | Thanks for the update. | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | Okay moving on then | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | Any updates from anyone? | 17:08 |
| mjturek1 | Not much progress. we're hoping to do some work on it today, but have been a bit sidetracked unfortunately :( | 17:08 |
| * jlvillal looks at mjturek1 :) | 17:08 | |
| mjturek1 | heheh | 17:08 |
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| mjturek1 | today is our designated functional testing day though | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | I unfortunately understand getting side-tracked. | 17:08 |
| mjturek1 | heheh | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | #info No updates this week. | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Okay then moving on if nothing else | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | #info 3rd Party CI | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | #undo | 17:10 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0xaf45f90> | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | I don't see krtaylor here | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | Does anyone have any 3rd Party CI updates | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | I noticed that sambetts aka cisco is now commenting/voting | 17:11 |
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| sambetts | Cisco Ironic CI is hooked up and reponding to patches, it is returning Failed because we're still working on the jobs, but we're close :D | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | Maybe it is cisco aka sambetts... | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | #info Cisco Ironic CI is hooked up and reponding to patches, it is returning Failed because we're still working on the jobs, but we're close :D | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: Awesome! :) | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | Anything else from anyone? | 17:12 |
| sambetts | it needs some slight modification too, because we should be triggering 2 jobs per patch because we've got 2 drivers | 17:12 |
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| sambetts | CIMC and UCSM | 17:12 |
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| maurosr | jlvillal: at IBM's CI we're testing silent with upstream patches, there is just one internal network adjustment to be made and we will watch to see if jobs are stable to turn on commenting on the patches | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | #info IBM's CI is testing silently with upstream patches, there is just one internal network adjustment to be made and they will watch to see if jobs are stable to turn on commenting on the patches | 17:13 |
| sambetts | maurosr: Thats awesome :D | 17:13 |
| jlvillal | maurosr: Thanks | 17:13 |
| jlvillal | Any other updates? | 17:13 |
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| jlvillal | Okay, moving on then. | 17:14 |
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| jlvillal | #topic Open Discussion / General QA topics | 17:14 |
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| jlvillal | The floor is open. | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | If anyone has something to discuss feel free. | 17:14 |
| kcalman | I had a question | 17:14 |
| kcalman | Is anyone actually testing hardware at this point? | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | kcalman: That is the goal of the 3rd Party CI | 17:15 |
| maurosr | I have a review request https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/1546706 this 3 patches fixes #1546706 which is something we need to get our tests running | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | One of the goals, I believe. | 17:15 |
| kcalman | I am aware of that, I am wondering if anyone is there yet | 17:16 |
| sambetts | kcalman: Our CI will be, it will be against real Cisco UCS, under control of either the Ironic UCSM Driver or Ironic CIMC Driver | 17:16 |
| maurosr | kcalman: we're (IBM, report on patches will start next friday or monday hopefully) | 17:16 |
| sambetts | kcalman: we're very close, and I've had manual runs working, just need to get the automation setup for the jobs | 17:16 |
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| jlvillal | #info Review request to get CI working: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bug/1546706 the 3 patches fixes #1546706 which is something needed to get IBM CI tests running | 17:17 |
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| jlvillal | Not sure if maurosr is running on real hardware or not. | 17:18 |
| maurosr | we are jlvillal | 17:18 |
| maurosr | you can see a successful run here if you want http://dal05.objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_3d8e6ecb-f597-448c-8ec2-164e9f710dd6/c2/ibm-devstack-gate/79/579/1/check/imported:gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ipmitool-vivid/f329e4a/ | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | Thanks | 17:18 |
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| jlvillal | Any other questions or comments? | 17:19 |
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| kcalman | OK, thanks | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | All right. I think we are done. | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | Thanks for attending everyone! | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 17:20:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:20 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-02-17.00.html | 17:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-02-17.00.txt | 17:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-02-17.00.log.html | 17:20 |
| maurosr | \o bye | 17:20 |
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| prosun | fpatwa: hi Farhan | 18:35 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #startmeeting docteam | 19:00 |
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| ShillaSaebi | hi everyone | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | anyone here for the docs meeting | 19:01 |
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| ShillaSaebi | for some reason im having trouble starting the meeting, going to try again | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | #startmeeting docteam | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 2 19:01:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ShillaSaebi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | ah it was the space | 19:01 |
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| AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
| gmolson | Hi! | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | hello AJaeger | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | hi! | 19:02 |
| emagana | hello ShillaSaebi | 19:02 |
| njohnston | o/ | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | good evening, everybody | 19:02 |
| emagana | Hello All! | 19:02 |
| ShillaSaebi | alright, better attendance already | 19:02 |
| lwilliams_ | o/ | 19:02 |
| ShillaSaebi | must be the time change | 19:02 |
| ShillaSaebi | thats good news | 19:02 |
| ShillaSaebi | I did a little big of reading up and looks like the APAC meeting last week didn't have much of an attendance so that ended early | 19:03 |
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| ShillaSaebi | and we were still rearranging our time for the US one so my agenda may be a bit light | 19:03 |
| ShillaSaebi | just want to give a heads up about that | 19:03 |
| ShillaSaebi | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 19:04 |
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| ShillaSaebi | there are none that are noted | 19:04 |
| ShillaSaebi | so thats a quick one unless someone wants to bring something up | 19:04 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Specs in Review | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs in Review (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 19:04 | |
| ShillaSaebi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 19:05 |
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| ShillaSaebi | and none listed | 19:05 |
| ShillaSaebi | :) | 19:05 |
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| annegentle | o/ sorry I'm late | 19:05 |
| ShillaSaebi | hello annegentle! | 19:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | We haven't really gone through much and the agenda is pretty light | 19:06 |
| annegentle | cool | 19:06 |
| annegentle | and, whew | 19:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | Was just going through action items (none) and specs in review (none) | 19:06 |
| annegentle | perfect | 19:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah and good news, we have a much bigger attendance! | 19:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | happy about the time change | 19:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | #topic Speciality teams | 19:07 |
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| ShillaSaebi | Lana has been collecting the speciality team reports on this etherpad since the beginning of the year | 19:07 |
| ShillaSaebi | it's been working great and it also gives us a better place to link to for this info | 19:07 |
| ShillaSaebi | Generally Lana will ask for updates on Wednesday, to be completed by around noon by friday | 19:08 |
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| ShillaSaebi | feel free to view the link for all the updates on the specialty teams | 19:08 |
| ShillaSaebi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Speciality_Team_Reports | 19:08 |
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| ShillaSaebi | and if anyone is here from the specialty teams, we can go through any additional updates you would like to bring up | 19:08 |
| emagana | I am here from the networking guide | 19:08 |
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| emagana | but our meeting will happen this Thursday, so I do not have too much to report but the fact that neutron team had last week the mid-cycle and Matt was representing Docs there | 19:09 |
| gmolson | I am here from User Guide. For User Guide team, we are making progress on moving content from the Admin User Guide to the Cloud Admin Guide. Dashboard content is complete, and part 1 of command-line content is in progress. | 19:10 |
| * AJaeger saw some new reviews coming in for the networking guide which is great | 19:10 | |
| emagana | We also have good traction on new chapter and other areas for the networking guide that are looking good | 19:10 |
| emagana | Yes! It is looking better AJaeger | 19:10 |
| annegentle | that's awesome emagana | 19:10 |
| ShillaSaebi | thats great news | 19:10 |
| emagana | I need to invest more time in reviews!!! :-) | 19:10 |
| ShillaSaebi | should we post a link so that we can go through them | 19:11 |
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| ShillaSaebi | we have a few cores here :) | 19:11 |
| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: no need to post links, just wanted to point it out | 19:12 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok awesome | 19:12 |
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| ShillaSaebi | thanks AJaeger | 19:12 |
| ShillaSaebi | alright anything else on the specialty teams? | 19:12 |
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| emagana | ShillaSaebi: I want to gain my corerole ;-) | 19:13 |
| ShillaSaebi | We will be having the arch/ops guide team meeting tomorrow so I don't have much to update as of now | 19:13 |
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| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: I'd love to get rid of XML - how's OPS guide conversion moving forward? | 19:13 |
| ShillaSaebi | we haven't started the conversion for the ops guide yet | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | Do you have now all answers and can form a plan? | 19:14 |
| ShillaSaebi | we are waiting for hte N release | 19:14 |
| ShillaSaebi | the* | 19:14 |
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| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: please do prepare for it - I'd like to obsolete our XML toolchain. | 19:14 |
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| ShillaSaebi | yes we are on the same page | 19:15 |
| ShillaSaebi | we need some help too | 19:15 |
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| ShillaSaebi | we've sent a few e-mails out with a call for help but haven't received much response | 19:15 |
| ShillaSaebi | any response in fact | 19:15 |
| annegentle | please oh please | 19:15 |
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| annegentle | oh please | 19:15 |
| annegentle | :) | 19:15 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 19:15 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah we can try again or maybe send a reminder for our meeting tomorrow | 19:16 |
| annegentle | I have to give huge props to krotscheck for helping with the flat HTML files from Swagger | 19:16 |
| ShillaSaebi | kudos krotscheck! | 19:16 |
| ShillaSaebi | that's awesome | 19:16 |
| krotscheck | thanks! | 19:16 |
| annegentle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286659/ | 19:16 |
| * AJaeger agrees - was just seeing some good discussion... | 19:16 | |
| annegentle | that will also help deprecate the XML toolchain completely | 19:17 |
| annegentle | super happy | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | yay | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | please oh please! | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | heh | 19:17 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: heee | 19:17 |
| emagana | annegentle: +2 | 19:17 |
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| ShillaSaebi | great! | 19:18 |
| ShillaSaebi | anything else on the specialty teams? | 19:18 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok moving along | 19:19 |
| ShillaSaebi | #topic Countdown to release! | 19:19 |
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| ShillaSaebi | we are roughly 6 weeks away till the new release | 19:19 |
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| annegentle | and tomorrow is feature freeze right? and soft string freeze also | 19:20 |
| annegentle | #link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 19:20 |
| AJaeger | do we have anybody that wants to act as some kind of "release coordinator"? | 19:20 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20160407T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Mitaka+Launch+Date&font=cursive | 19:21 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: oh yes, great opportunity | 19:21 |
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| AJaeger | We need somebody that coordinates that all pages are updated and documents are published in time. | 19:21 |
| annegentle | it's a good chance to see how releases go and be the docs point of contact. AJaeger and I would back you up of course | 19:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | that does sound like a great opportunity | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Release | 19:22 |
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| annegentle | #info Looking for a docs release coordinator for Mitaka. | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | that one contains most (hopefully all) information and I'm happy to review that together with anybody that wants to help | 19:22 |
| ShillaSaebi | how much time does it usually take roughly? | 19:22 |
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| annegentle | #info Release week is April 4-8 | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: it depends on what needs doing - if it's just coordination or doing many changes as well... | 19:23 |
| annegentle | ShillaSaebi: It's an intense week but for coordination really just being an organized on-top-of-things person, ya know? | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | I think a couple of hours during release week but also a bit coordination before | 19:23 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: yeah that sounds right | 19:23 |
| ShillaSaebi | I would do it if I could but we have an internal OpenStack summit I am organizing that week at Comcast | 19:23 |
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| ShillaSaebi | How about we send something to the ML | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | and we don't need to do the release notes AFAIU | 19:24 |
| annegentle | ShillaSaebi: nice | 19:24 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: yeah that's a good point about release notes | 19:24 |
| ShillaSaebi | Ok that can be my action item | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: give that Action item to send the note to loquacities ;) | 19:24 |
| annegentle | ShillaSaebi: loquacities should be sending something -- hee AJaeger we think alike | 19:24 |
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| AJaeger | ;) | 19:24 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok I thought the same thing | 19:24 |
| ShillaSaebi | at the exact same time | 19:25 |
| ShillaSaebi | "wait a min...." | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 19:25 |
| annegentle | hee hee | 19:25 |
| ShillaSaebi | #action loquacities to send an e-mail to find volunteer for release coordination | 19:25 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #action: loquacities to send an e-mail to find volunteer for release coordination | 19:26 |
| ShillaSaebi | ahhh sorry | 19:26 |
| ShillaSaebi | #action loquacities: send an e-mail to find volunteer for release coordination | 19:27 |
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| ShillaSaebi | ok i hope that worked | 19:27 |
| ShillaSaebi | it doesnt look like it did | 19:27 |
| annegentle | I thought the first one should have, hmm | 19:27 |
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| ShillaSaebi | ok maybe it did | 19:27 |
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| annegentle | ShillaSaebi: you can do #undo if you think one should be removed but I think the first is fine | 19:28 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #undo #action: loquacities to send an e-mail to find volunteer for release coordination | 19:29 |
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| AJaeger | let loquacities send the mail several times, if there's no volunteer directly ;) | 19:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | woo ok | 19:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | we should be ok | 19:30 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #undo #action loquacities: send an e-mail to find volunteer for release coordination | 19:30 |
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| ShillaSaebi | ok i think i removed 2 out of the 3 | 19:30 |
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| ShillaSaebi | 1 can stay | 19:30 |
| annegentle | cool | 19:30 |
| annegentle | :) | 19:30 |
| ShillaSaebi | learn something new everyday | 19:31 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok so lets move along | 19:31 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Open discussion | 19:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 19:31 | |
| ShillaSaebi | As I mentioned, the agenda is kind of short today so if there is anything anyone wants to bring up, feel free to do so now | 19:31 |
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| annegentle | I was gonna ask who all is coming to Austin for the Summit? | 19:32 |
| ShillaSaebi | me! | 19:32 |
| annegentle | ShillaSaebi: woo! | 19:33 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah looking forwad to it | 19:33 |
| annegentle | I think I'll be taking the train in every day :) | 19:33 |
| ShillaSaebi | that's awesome | 19:33 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: are you able to come to Austin? | 19:33 |
| AJaeger | annegentle: not yet confirmed - will figure out by next week | 19:33 |
| annegentle | I think we find out about talk proposals next week, yeah? | 19:33 |
| ShillaSaebi | yes | 19:33 |
| AJaeger | annegentle: that as well... | 19:33 |
| annegentle | AJaeger and I have been track chairing, anyone else? | 19:33 |
| ShillaSaebi | The week of March 7th | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | me too | 19:34 |
| annegentle | yeah | 19:34 |
| annegentle | cool what track ShillaSaebi? | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | we got our stuff finished on Sunday night | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | ops track | 19:34 |
| annegentle | whew! | 19:34 |
| annegentle | that was huge | 19:34 |
| * AJaeger How to Contribute | 19:34 | |
| emagana | same here.. for the networking track | 19:34 |
| annegentle | nice | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | cool!! | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | I am looking forward to the summit and it's my first time in TX | 19:34 |
| ShillaSaebi | Although everyone tells me that Austin is a different world inside TX | 19:34 |
| emagana | some many good things about Austin that I am looking forward to finding out! | 19:35 |
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| ShillaSaebi | definitely | 19:36 |
| annegentle | it is ShillaSaebi :) | 19:36 |
| ShillaSaebi | :) | 19:36 |
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| ShillaSaebi | anything else anyone wants to bring up? | 19:36 |
| annegentle | I don't have anything else but would like to ask AJaeger a q in #openstack-doc if that's okay :) | 19:36 |
| ShillaSaebi | I must say that I am much more pleased with this new time | 19:36 |
| AJaeger | ShillaSaebi: let's vote on that ;) | 19:36 |
| ShillaSaebi | thanks for your help with that annegentle | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | hahahaha | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | it's up to you AJaeger | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | :) | 19:37 |
| gmolson | yes - thanks for thew new time! | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | props to annegentle for spearheading that movement | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | alright if nothing else, thanks all for joining | 19:37 |
| AJaeger | Let's finish up... | 19:37 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, ShillaSaebi for chairing! | 19:37 |
| ShillaSaebi | anytime have a great week all! | 19:38 |
| ShillaSaebi | #endmeeting | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 2 19:38:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-02-19.01.html | 19:38 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-02-19.01.txt | 19:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-02-19.01.log.html | 19:38 |
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