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| leong | o/ | 06:01 |
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| kei | #startmeeting product_working_group | 06:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 06:01:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 06:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 06:01 |
| kei | hi! | 06:01 |
| leong | hello kei | 06:02 |
| kei | hi leong | 06:02 |
| leong | how are you doing kei... | 06:02 |
| kei | leong: i'm great, thanks. | 06:02 |
| kei | You can find the agenda for today here: | 06:03 |
| kei | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 06:03 |
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| kei | leong: can we start with the first agenda? | 06:04 |
| leong | anyone else for the Product WG regional meeting? | 06:04 |
| kei | i believe there're hieulq and tovin07 | 06:04 |
| tovin07 | o/ | 06:05 |
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| kei | hi tovin07 | 06:05 |
| tovin07 | hello kei :D | 06:05 |
| leong | nice :) | 06:05 |
| leong | let's move on to the first agenda itm | 06:05 |
| kei | ok | 06:05 |
| kei | #topic User Story | 06:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "User Story (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 06:06 | |
| leong | I have submitted a User Story Tracker for Baremetal.. | 06:06 |
| leong | #link Baremetal Tracker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429946/ | 06:06 |
| kei | leong: thank you. | 06:06 |
| leong | it is still work-in-progress. | 06:06 |
| leong | there are still more information need to be included. | 06:07 |
| leong | that's why it is marked "WIP: | 06:07 |
| leong | i will try to fill up the rest of the information over the next few days | 06:07 |
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| kei | leong: sounds great. | 06:08 |
| leong | if you have any question, feel free to reply/comment on the gerrit patch | 06:08 |
| kei | leong: so you'll be adding more features to the file, right? | 06:09 |
| leong | yup.. basically based on the gap-analysis document | 06:09 |
| kei | currently, there're Console, NMI, Graceful shutdown, and unified management. | 06:09 |
| kei | leong: i see. | 06:09 |
| kei | leong: sounds like it's my job... thanks again. | 06:10 |
| leong | not problem :-) | 06:10 |
| leong | just bring me a snack from Japan next time we meet :) | 06:11 |
| kei | leong: sure :) | 06:11 |
| leong | once we got more details to merge the tracker, we should be able to see the data on featuretracker.openstack.org (but the site is down now) | 06:13 |
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| kei | leong: ok. i'll take a look at the site later once it's back online. | 06:14 |
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| leong | sure | 06:14 |
| kei | leong: as for posting a revised patch for bare metal user story, i haven't done it yet. i'll do that this week to start a dicussion of "Wei vs new persona" | 06:15 |
| leong | ok.. thanks kei | 06:15 |
| kei | leong: sorry, but there's not much updates for bare metal. can we move on to the logging (the name may be changed) user story? | 06:16 |
| leong | sure! | 06:16 |
| kei | hieulq: are you there? | 06:17 |
| tovin07 | he will be late for a little bit | 06:17 |
| tovin07 | sorry for that | 06:17 |
| kei | tovin07: no problem. | 06:18 |
| leong | i believe Rockyg from Huawei also interested to work on Logging | 06:18 |
| leong | The LCOO working group also interested to collaborate on Logging user story | 06:18 |
| kei | leong: yes, i communicated with her before. | 06:18 |
| kei | leong: by "Logging user story", do you mean our user story that we were going to submit? | 06:19 |
| hieulq | o/ | 06:19 |
| leong | yes.. but collaborate with Huawei and LCOO to define the user story requirements as a grou | 06:20 |
| leong | group | 06:20 |
| hieulq | sorry for being late, my lap met some troubles | 06:20 |
| kei | leong: understood. | 06:20 |
| kei | leong: like we discussed last time, our requirement tend to be tracing. but we have some requirements for logging two. we may need to sort them out first. | 06:21 |
| kei | hieulq: hi. no problem. | 06:21 |
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| leong | kei: that shouldn't be a problem.. let's continue to draft our requirements here, and can invite others to review | 06:22 |
| kei | leong: as for tracing, we're finalizing it now. hieulq was on holidays last week and revised and sent a revised one to me yesterday. apprecaite that, hieulq. | 06:22 |
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| leong | maybe we should name it as "Logging for traceability" | 06:23 |
| hieulq | kei, my pleasure ;) | 06:23 |
| hieulq | leong, we are drafting it with the name "distributed tracing" | 06:23 |
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| kei | we're trying to clearly divide our requirements into logging and tracing so that we can post the tracing user story dependently for review. | 06:23 |
| leong | hieulq: that's fine.. as long as we clearly define the 'problem statement' | 06:24 |
| kei | logging should be more complicated as many people are interested and their requirement may be similar, but differnt in details. | 06:24 |
| leong | kei: agree | 06:24 |
| kei | leong: we'll try to submit the user story this week. | 06:25 |
| kei | hieulq: let's get it done :) | 06:25 |
| leong | that's great. Thanks for the effort, kei and hieulq | 06:25 |
| kei | leong: sorry it's taking time. | 06:26 |
| leong | drop me the link when it is submitted | 06:26 |
| kei | leong: sure thing. | 06:26 |
| kei | leong: hieulq: tovin07: sorry, but my network is not good today. that's why there's sometimes a silence from my side... | 06:27 |
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| leong | let me know if you need help on submitting the user story | 06:29 |
| kei | leong: thanks! | 06:30 |
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| kei | leong: should we move on to Opens? | 06:31 |
| leong | sure | 06:31 |
| kei | #topic Opens | 06:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Opens (Meeting topic: product_working_group)" | 06:31 | |
| kei | does anyone have any other topics to discuss today? | 06:31 |
| leong | FYI.. here's the link to the minutes of US timezone meeting this morning | 06:31 |
| leong | #link US meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-06-21.00.html | 06:32 |
| leong | in summary, the midcycle is still planning-in-progress, pending PWG attendance confirmation | 06:32 |
| leong | and location | 06:32 |
| leong | for the Boston summit, i have submitted a "working session" for PWG | 06:33 |
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| leong | kenny submitted a Birds_of_feather session for PWG | 06:33 |
| kei | leong: yes. thanks for the submission. | 06:33 |
| kei | leong: i see. | 06:33 |
| leong | I also submitted another session (with AndyU + Kei) to promote Product WG to the community | 06:33 |
| leong | Shamail submitted a Roadmap session | 06:34 |
| kei | leong: thanks so much. | 06:34 |
| leong | Kencjohnston and Arcady_Kanevsky might also work on an update for "rolling-upgrade" user story | 06:34 |
| kei | leong: i think i'll be there as some fujitsu engineers are invovled in the rolling-upgrade development. | 06:35 |
| leong | that's about the sessions i am aware of from Product WG perspective | 06:35 |
| leong | nice kei | 06:35 |
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| leong | Another thing for the Forum. | 06:36 |
| leong | PWG is making a proposal to facilitate the upcoming Forum | 06:36 |
| kei | leong: ok. do you have any ideas how many presentations will be taken place this time at the summit? usually the number is over 1000. | 06:36 |
| kei | leong: oh sorry, go ahead. | 06:37 |
| leong | no problem kei.. | 06:37 |
| leong | i have no clue on the amount of presentation :) | 06:37 |
| leong | here's the link to the PWG proposal | 06:37 |
| leong | #link Proposal to facilitate Forum: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jTlO4UdNjc5cOKboeCNhLDEdttazWWlDgNxxulUrPNg/edit | 06:38 |
| leong | we will discuss this proposal in the next UC meeting | 06:38 |
| leong | feel free to comments on the slides | 06:38 |
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| leong | that's my updates from the US-meeting | 06:39 |
| leong | :) | 06:39 |
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| kei | leong: i just took a quick look at it. looks like a good thing to do. i'll look into it more later. | 06:44 |
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| leong | thanks! | 06:44 |
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| kei | leong: if the slide deck has its purpose (or issues to address) explicitely, it'd be even better? | 06:45 |
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| leong | +1 great point | 06:46 |
| leong | i will look into that | 06:46 |
| kei | "issues to address" might not be appropriate here. maybe "things to achieve"? | 06:46 |
| leong | "Filling the gap" ? | 06:47 |
| kei | leong: it might be it. | 06:47 |
| kei | ok, anything else? | 06:50 |
| leong | nothing from e | 06:51 |
| leong | me | 06:51 |
| kei | ok. let's finish it today. thanks everyone! | 06:51 |
| leong | thanks kei! | 06:52 |
| kei | #endmeeting | 06:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 06:52:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-07-06.01.html | 06:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-07-06.01.txt | 06:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-07-06.01.log.html | 06:52 |
| kei | i almost forgot to do endmeeting... thanks leong, hieulq, tovin07 | 06:52 |
| leong | talk to u all next time | 06:52 |
| tovin07 | thanks all | 06:53 |
| hieulq | thanks | 06:53 |
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| masahito | priteau hiro-kobayashi r-mibu GeraldK: hi all it's time to blazar meeting :-) | 09:01 |
| GeraldK | hi | 09:01 |
| hiro-kobayashi | hi | 09:01 |
| masahito | #startmeeting blazar | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 09:01:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hello | 09:01 |
| masahito | #chair priteau hiro-kobayashi | 09:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hiro-kobayashi masahito priteau | 09:01 |
| r-mibu | hi | 09:02 |
| masahito | #topic roll call | 09:02 |
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| priteau | \o | 09:02 |
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| masahito | o/ | 09:02 |
| r-mibu | o/ | 09:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi | o/ | 09:02 |
| tejaswi | o/ | 09:02 |
| masahito | tejaswi: hi | 09:02 |
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| tejaswi | hi masahito | 09:02 |
| masahito | today's agenda is | 09:03 |
| masahito | 1. Action items from last call | 09:03 |
| masahito | 2. Release versioning and date | 09:03 |
| masahito | 3. Pike cycle discussion | 09:03 |
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| masahito | anything else? | 09:03 |
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| GeraldK | are we ready to migrate the namespace? | 09:04 |
| priteau | getting close | 09:05 |
| GeraldK | what about check of open reviews? | 09:05 |
| masahito | GeraldK: all the patches needed to merge are in review. | 09:05 |
| masahito | ok, 4. review status and migrate namespace | 09:05 |
| GeraldK | okay. it was meant as input for the agenda | 09:05 |
| GeraldK | thanks | 09:06 |
| masahito | then move on to first | 09:06 |
| masahito | #topic action items from last meeting | 09:06 |
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| masahito | I see 2 action items. | 09:07 |
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| masahito | 1. start drafting #2 summit proposal | 09:07 |
| masahito | 2. priteau to investigate differences between v1 and v2 API | 09:07 |
| masahito | any update? | 09:07 |
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| priteau | masahito: no time for #2 yet, I focused on the auth patch to unblock tempest and on reviews | 09:08 |
| GeraldK | masahito has submitted CfP proposal #2 | 09:09 |
| masahito | priteau: I know, thanks the nice patch and review | 09:09 |
| masahito | yeah | 09:09 |
| GeraldK | masahito: thanks for having taken this over. | 09:09 |
| masahito | I have submitted #2 summit proposal regarding to Collaboration Promise and Blazar. | 09:10 |
| masahito | The action item was done, and I'm believing the proposal is accepted. | 09:10 |
| hiro-kobayashi | Yes, we believe that | 09:11 |
| masahito | then move on to next. | 09:11 |
| masahito | #Release versioning and date | 09:12 |
| masahito | #topic Release versioning and date | 09:12 |
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| masahito | We're getting closer to release latest Blazar release. | 09:12 |
| masahito | All of our efforts enables it. thanks a great works all! | 09:13 |
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| priteau | Thanks for your hard work masahito | 09:14 |
| masahito | Then I'm thinking we can release next version once we finish merging patches related to tempest. | 09:14 |
| masahito | How do you think? | 09:14 |
| masahito | Or we should release after converting blazar namespace? | 09:15 |
| priteau | I would prefer after converting | 09:15 |
| GeraldK | would also prefer after converting | 09:15 |
| masahito | One of both timing looks good timing to me. | 09:15 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I think we do not need to wait for converting | 09:16 |
| r-mibu | +1 after converting | 09:16 |
| priteau | I feel strongly that we don't have to release synchronized with the Ocata date, it's ok if it is a couple of weeks later | 09:16 |
| priteau | In this case we still have ~ one month | 09:16 |
| masahito | yes. | 09:16 |
| masahito | I guess we can convert it by end of Feb then release a new version. | 09:17 |
| GeraldK | my understanding was that if we focus on the conversion we could be done within 1 week? | 09:17 |
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| GeraldK | maybe that is too optimistic | 09:17 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: I think so, too | 09:18 |
| masahito | ok then, | 09:18 |
| priteau | GeraldK: We need to finish oslo migration + tempest test first (hopefully this week), then migrate namespace. There are also other Ocata tasks that we outlined in the Etherpad | 09:18 |
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| priteau | For example it would be great to have openstackclient support | 09:18 |
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| GeraldK | sure. yes, i know we also have other tasks. +1 for targeting end of February | 09:19 |
| GeraldK | my point was that the conversion of the namespace could be done in 1 week | 09:20 |
| masahito | #agree Release new version by end of February | 09:20 |
| masahito | GeraldK: yeah. maybe. | 09:20 |
| masahito | if we can push patches before PTG, hiro-kobayashi, r-mibu and me can review these there :-) | 09:21 |
| masahito | and would be able to merge it | 09:21 |
| masahito | Additionally, I | 09:21 |
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| priteau | masahito: Release new version by end of February *if ready*. We don't want to ship a bad release as first release. | 09:22 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: +1, but how to judge it? | 09:23 |
| masahito | I'm thinking name of next release version is '0.2.0'. any opinion? | 09:23 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:23 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: I am sure one of us will know if an important patch is still unmerged | 09:23 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:24 |
| masahito | priteau: agreed, but we need a milestone that show what should be merged in the release. | 09:24 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: thats right | 09:24 |
| masahito | I'm not forcing to release anyhow at end of Feb. | 09:24 |
| GeraldK | we had agreed on a list of Ocata items in the Blazar status 2016 page from line 140 | 09:24 |
| GeraldK | should we revisit this to see what is our milestone that we target for the release? | 09:25 |
| priteau | +1 GeraldK, we should review this list again | 09:26 |
| GeraldK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Blazar_status_2016 | 09:26 |
| masahito | 1. Mainly tasks are caught up with up-to-date OpenStack release (Nova, oslo libraries [Pierre], tempest [Masahito], client and so on) | 09:26 |
| GeraldK | we don't have assignees for all action items in this list | 09:26 |
| masahito | 2. migrate namespace climate to blazar | 09:26 |
| priteau | check documentation is up to date | 09:27 |
| masahito | 3. Review state of API versions: v1 vs v2 [Pierre] | 09:27 |
| priteau | release notes | 09:27 |
| masahito | 4. Clean up Blueprints and bugs in launchpad [ | 09:27 |
| masahito | 5. Synchronize documentation (both github wiki and blazar/doc/source) with reality | 09:27 |
| priteau | deprecate instance reservatio | 09:27 |
| masahito | 6. Add releasenotes | 09:27 |
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| masahito | 7. Make sure we adhere to project conventions | 09:27 |
| masahito | 8. VM reservation plugin: raise a warning when people are using it but keep the code for now. Revisit after our next release | 09:28 |
| masahito | I can see above 8 items for Ocata release. | 09:28 |
| priteau | Good list | 09:28 |
| GeraldK | 1. is almost done -> see from line 21 | 09:28 |
| hiro-kobayashi | about #1, we finish oslo and tempest after merging current in-review patches | 09:29 |
| hiro-kobayashi | how about client? | 09:29 |
| GeraldK | #2 is planned by end of February | 09:29 |
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| masahito | yes. | 09:29 |
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| masahito | #3 is under investigating, but not related to release itself. | 09:30 |
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| GeraldK | i.e. for the release we will still support both v1 an v2? | 09:30 |
| masahito | GeraldK: I think we should only support v1 now. v2 is not stable and not tested. | 09:31 |
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| priteau | GeraldK: yes because the client only supports v1 now | 09:31 |
| GeraldK | masahito: okay | 09:31 |
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| masahito | For #4, I cleaned up bug report yesterday. | 09:32 |
| hiro-kobayashi | masahito: great, thanks! | 09:32 |
| masahito | #5 is not done by anyone, I think. | 09:33 |
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| priteau | #5 would benefit from everyone checking it | 09:33 |
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| masahito | #6 is in review and know enough notes. | 09:33 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:34 |
| masahito | priteau: right. | 09:34 |
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| masahito | It looks like #7 is already done. | 09:35 |
| GeraldK | masahito: thanks for having cleaned bug report. I closed this issue in the Etherpad | 09:35 |
| priteau | #8 can be tricky because extensions were not enabled directly in blazar, but in nova config | 09:36 |
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| masahito | and #8 is already done b/c instane reservation is not supported in latest Nova release. | 09:36 |
| priteau | We need a release notes depreciation item | 09:36 |
| masahito | yes | 09:36 |
| masahito | GeraldK: thanks | 09:36 |
| masahito | So, the rests of things we need to do is | 09:37 |
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| masahito | 2. migrate namespace climate to blazar | 09:37 |
| GeraldK | should we do "actions" on it to have it as a reminder for next agenda? | 09:38 |
| masahito | 5. review and update the doc in github wiki and doc/source | 09:38 |
| masahito | GeraldK: yes | 09:38 |
| hiro-kobayashi | #action migrate namespace climate to blazar by the end of Feb. | 09:38 |
| hiro-kobayashi | #action review and update the doc in github wiki and doc/source | 09:38 |
| masahito | 8. write a release note that says 'instance reservation is not supported in Ocata' | 09:39 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | #action write a release note that says 'instance reservation is not supported in Ocata' | 09:39 |
| masahito | the three action items? | 09:39 |
| priteau | Wait, doc in github wiki? | 09:39 |
| priteau | you mean openstack wiki? | 09:39 |
| masahito | I just copy from etherpad. | 09:39 |
| priteau | I don't see any wiki on github | 09:40 |
| masahito | priteau: you're right | 09:40 |
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| masahito | we don't have wiki page in github. | 09:40 |
| masahito | I'll report three bugs of above action items and add its target as 0.2.0 release. | 09:41 |
| priteau | Thanks masahito | 09:41 |
| masahito | then we can release :-) | 09:42 |
| masahito | wow, it's so close. | 09:42 |
| priteau | Regarding release items, I would like to mention something I discovered recently | 09:42 |
| priteau | Originally, Blazar was using a dedicated admin account to do operations like create host aggregates | 09:43 |
| priteau | At some point in 2014, this was migrated to use trusts | 09:43 |
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| priteau | However, this means that a user needs to be able to create and manage host aggregates if they want to use blazar | 09:44 |
| priteau | which is not the default policy for Nova | 09:44 |
| priteau | I am not sure if that's by design or accident. I think trusts were added mostly for instance reservation, so it could be by accident | 09:44 |
| priteau | What do you want to do about this? | 09:45 |
| priteau | I can open a Launchpad bug with more details for discussion if you wnt | 09:45 |
| masahito | I think we can fix or discuss the design after release | 09:46 |
| masahito | If it breaks Blazar itself, we should fix it before release. or if it doesn't break, we can fix it after release and backport it | 09:46 |
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| priteau | masahito: It doesn't break it completely, but it means by default only admins can create Blazar leases | 09:46 |
| masahito | IMO, it sounds design issue. | 09:47 |
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| priteau | Yes, which is why I would like to fix it before releasing 0.2.0 if possible | 09:47 |
| hiro-kobayashi | How long does it take to fix it? | 09:47 |
| r-mibu | i suppose it could depend on how to fix | 09:49 |
| masahito | hiro-kobayashi: good point | 09:49 |
| priteau | It depends what solution we decide to use | 09:49 |
| priteau | I will email previous Blazar developers to ask what they intended to do | 09:49 |
| r-mibu | +1 | 09:49 |
| priteau | One solution would be to restore using the blazar admin account for aggregates | 09:49 |
| GeraldK | pls keep us in CC in this thread with previous cores | 09:50 |
| priteau | I did that for Chameleon, I can take care of it if we agree that is the good solution | 09:50 |
| priteau | GeraldK: of course | 09:50 |
| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: thanks | 09:50 |
| hiro-kobayashi | I agree with that chameleon solution for now | 09:51 |
| r-mibu | priteau, sounds nice | 09:52 |
| priteau | r-mibu: it's nothing complex, just restoring older code | 09:52 |
| masahito | priteau: I'm ok if it works in your deployment | 09:52 |
| priteau | I will email devs first, and start preparing a patch depending on answers or lack of answer | 09:53 |
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| masahito | then, come back to next meeting with the answer form previous cores. we'll use whether Chameleon solution or not. | 09:53 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:53 |
| hiro-kobayashi | +1 | 09:53 |
| GeraldK | +1 | 09:54 |
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| masahito | last 5 mins. | 09:54 |
| r-mibu | +1 | 09:55 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: do we need to go agenda 4. review status and migrate namespace? | 09:55 |
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| masahito | GeraldK: it looks already discussed. | 09:56 |
| GeraldK | no. we can skip | 09:56 |
| masahito | GeraldK: got it. | 09:56 |
| masahito | #topic open discussion | 09:56 |
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| masahito | if you have any update or topic, feel free to say it :-> | 09:57 |
| GeraldK | I'd like to say thank you for your hard work and the good progess | 09:57 |
| priteau | I noticed we had reviews from a new person this week | 09:57 |
| priteau | Do you know who it is? | 09:58 |
| GeraldK | tejaswi: did you manage to get your environment ready? | 09:58 |
| masahito | priteau: no, I guess he/she is new comer. | 09:58 |
| tejaswi | GeraldK: yes, devstack came up fine. however, I still have few issues. | 09:58 |
| hiro-kobayashi | new commer's name is wanghongtaozz, right? | 09:59 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: "wanghongtaozz" is doing +1 reviews in lots of projects | 10:00 |
| masahito | tejaswi: what issue happens? | 10:00 |
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| hiro-kobayashi | priteau: yes he/she is. | 10:01 |
| tejaswi | masahito: I've sent email to you regarding the same error. however, I do not see any errors in the logs | 10:01 |
| priteau | hiro-kobayashi: he/she doesn't seem to offer any other comment than +1... Not very useful. | 10:01 |
| masahito | tejaswi: if you have few mins, I can answer it at #openstack-blazar from now. | 10:01 |
| masahito | btw, it's time to end the meeting. | 10:01 |
| masahito | thanks, all! | 10:01 |
| GeraldK | thanks all | 10:01 |
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| priteau | bye all, thanks! | 10:02 |
| r-mibu | thanks | 10:02 |
| masahito | tejaswi: please go to #openstack-blazar | 10:02 |
| hiro-kobayashi | bye, thanks! | 10:02 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 10:02:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-02-07-09.01.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-02-07-09.01.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-02-07-09.01.log.html | 10:02 |
| tejaswi | ok | 10:03 |
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| lennyb | #startmeeting SR-IOV meeting | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 13:02:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| lennyb | hello | 13:02 |
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| swebster | o/ | 13:03 |
| lennyb | hello swebster, how are you? | 13:04 |
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| swebster | lennyb: very well thanks, and yourself? | 13:04 |
| lennyb | I am fine thanks. | 13:04 |
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| pkoniszewski | o/ | 13:05 |
| lennyb | I have a small update to make. last week we had a Multinode failure due to placement_api that was merged | 13:05 |
| lennyb | currently our Multi Node CI seems ok. | 13:06 |
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| lennyb | hello pkoniszewski | 13:06 |
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| lennyb | Is there anything you would like to discuss today? | 13:08 |
| swebster | lennyb: so that multinode fix will make it into the Ocata release? | 13:08 |
| lennyb | swebster, yes indeed | 13:08 |
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| swebster | lennyb: great! I didn't have anything further to discuss today | 13:09 |
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| lennyb | If there are nothing to discuss I can suggest closing the meeting. See you in 2 weeks and thanks for comming | 13:10 |
| swebster | Thanks all | 13:10 |
| lennyb | #endmeeting | 13:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 13:10:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sr_iov_meeting/2017/sr_iov_meeting.2017-02-07-13.02.html | 13:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sr_iov_meeting/2017/sr_iov_meeting.2017-02-07-13.02.txt | 13:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sr_iov_meeting/2017/sr_iov_meeting.2017-02-07-13.02.log.html | 13:10 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 14:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * review past action items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Week roadmap | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | Anyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | Hi everyone! who is around today? | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| michapma_alt | o/ | 14:00 |
| fultonj | o/ | 14:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | o/ | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
| radez | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ | 14:00 |
| karthiks | o/ | 14:00 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:00 |
| matbu_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| ccamacho | \o | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | we have a long agenda today, let's get started | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic review past action items | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review past action items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:01 | |
| EmilienM | Team to move Low/Medium/Wishlist from ocata-rc1 to pike-1: done | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to add 'week roadmap' to next meeting agenda: done | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | TripleO core reviewers to block new features in TripleO unless FFE has been granted.: done | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to work on TripleO RC1 schedule and propose it on openstack-dev: done | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM to move remaining blueprints to pike-1 when needed: done | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | EmilienM sends a reminder about FFE / RC1 policy on openstack-dev: done | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | panda to email openstack-dev about quickstart & tripleo-ci changes: done | 14:01 |
| slagle | is there a list/etherpad of the granted ffe's? | 14:02 |
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| slagle | i lost track of what had been granted last week | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | slagle: no, and I'll create it right after the meeting | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to create etherpad with list of granted FFE for ocata | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | slagle: though I prepare some discussion for the FFE later in the meeting, and list all of them | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | prepared* | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | #topic one off agenda items | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "one off agenda items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| slagle | thanks! | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: o/ | 14:03 |
| gfidente | o/ | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: you wanted to chat about ceph/hci | 14:03 |
| dprince | hi | 14:03 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:04 |
| gfidente | yep, we have that implemented in the code from a while, trying to bring it into CI though we need to provision the storagemgmt network on the compute nodes | 14:04 |
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| EmilienM | gfidente: at that point, not sure we can have it for ocata cycle | 14:04 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:04 |
| gfidente | yeah that was the point of the item in the pad, it's not really stopped on code changes, but on infra changes | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: what do you need to discuss exactly? | 14:05 |
| gfidente | if we're of the idea of blocking it and skip hci testing in newton | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | I don't think we should add HCI for newton testing | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | Newton CI jobs are considered stable, let's keep them stable | 14:06 |
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| EmilienM | I would rather move forward to make it work in Pike | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | and stabilize it during the next cycle | 14:07 |
| gfidente | again, it's not hci we are working on, it's infra | 14:07 |
| gfidente | so we don't need to make it stable, we need to setup infra appropriately | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | yes, I understand | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | I'm just worried about changing how infra works for stable jobs | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | any thoughts? | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: sounds like very few feedback here. Do you mind following-up later on #tripleo? | 14:09 |
| gfidente | nope, good idea, thanks | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: thx | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | any other item for this week? | 14:09 |
| weshay | o/ | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | ok next topic | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:10 | |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-rc1 | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | before we jump into Ocata release blockers & CI. Do we have other outstanding bug we need to discuss? | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | ok I'll go to the next topic, we have plenty of things to discuss | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | #topic projects releases or stable backports | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | #info Essential release blocker: composable upgrades | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | matbu_, marios: can you summarize progress & blockers please? | 14:11 |
| matbu_ | EmilienM: yep | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | matbu_: please go ahead | 14:12 |
| matbu_ | EmilienM: so marios feel free to correct if i'm wrong | 14:12 |
| marios | EmilienM: sure, matbu ack | 14:12 |
| matbu_ | EmilienM: so currently most of the work has been done, we are at the stage where we are trying to figure out every reviews | 14:13 |
| marios | matbu: EmilienM: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/overcloud-upgrades-per-service and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/overcloud-updates-per-service_fixup are the relevant topic branches | 14:13 |
| matbu_ | a bunch of them needs to be reviewed and probably landed | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | marios: I was about asking for it, thx | 14:13 |
| marios | matbu_: EmilienM: as matbu says these are for the basic workflow .. these should be landed this week (matbu mcornea and me are testingt his today, ccamacho is also starting to help) | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | is there any blocker you need to inform us? | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/overcloud-upgrades-per-service and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/overcloud-updates-per-service_fixup | 14:15 |
| matbu_ | so i think except the little nits and probable bugs hidden, the most tricky part was the nova upgrade review | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:15 |
| marios | EmilienM: i know we are still having to do all sorts of workarounds for the nova upgrade like the cells stuff... see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405241/30/puppet/services/nova-api.yaml | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | (on my side, I made little progress on scenarios/upgrade CI job, FYI) | 14:15 |
| marios | EmilienM: but they are actively being worked on owalsh i know is helping lots there | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | marios: excellent. | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | #info major blocker for upgrades are need for review & nova cells | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | is that correct? ^ | 14:16 |
| matbu_ | EmilienM: ack, btw i tried to update de CI in regards of the coming merged review (pacemaker and nova) | 14:16 |
| marios | EmilienM: sounds right sure i miss some more :) but yeah that would be a great start! | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | marios: ok thx | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | marios, matbu_: thanks. Anything else we need to know? | 14:17 |
| ccamacho | hey marios FYI Im hitting also "ERROR: The specified reference "ControllerUpgradeBatch_Step2" (in ControllerUpgradeConfig_Step0) is incorrect. Im debugging it right now | 14:17 |
| marios | ccamacho: cool lets continue in chan | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | ok, sounds like we can move forward | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | #info Critical release blocker: nova cells v2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1662344 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662344 in tripleo "(HA) mysql bind_address param is not compatible with nova cell_v2" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Oliver Walsh (owalsh) | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | #info Critical release blocker: nova is pin to ocata-3 in RDO. Trunk is still not working | 14:18 |
| matbu_ | ccamacho: im debuging it also | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | #info Critical release blocker: nova/wsgi needs to be disabled, fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428778/ (waiting for CI and dependency to merge) | 14:18 |
| matbu_ | ccamacho: i think i know what happen | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | owalsh: I don't think we need much discussion, damien & bandini are not connected here. let's catchup after this meeting | 14:18 |
| matbu_ | ccamacho: im just taking forever to redeploy my current env :((( | 14:19 |
| owalsh | EmilienM: ack | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | matbu_: please keep debug for #tripleo ;) | 14:19 |
| ccamacho | matbu_ cool Ill ping you on #tripleo | 14:19 |
| ccamacho | ack | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | thx folks | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | #action owalsh / EmilienM to work together on short term solutions for nova blockers | 14:19 |
| matbu_ | EmilienM: yep sorry | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | #info High release blocker: FFE Contrail is waiting for patchset from Juniper on https://review.openstack.org/425717 | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | I talked with the author and he's going to push on it today if not done already | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Dell is waiting for CI to pass https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425861/ | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | this one should land today if CI is passing correctly | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Scale-IO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422238/ - need more work | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | I see a risk on this one, it might slip to Pike. | 14:21 |
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| gfidente | EmilienM me too on that one | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: I emailed Dell, I'll double check later with them on this one :-/ | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Collectd: need CI to pass + review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411048/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427802/ | 14:21 |
| gfidente | eventually I can pickup the puppet-tripleo part | 14:21 |
| * jrist late | 14:21 | |
| jrist | o/ | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | lars has been doing excellent work on it, let's help him by reviewing the patches | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | gfidente: ok, thx, let's sync on it later today | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | #action gfidente / EmilienM to help Dell to get Scale-IO on time for ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422238/ | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Congress | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | radez: o/ | 14:22 |
| radez | yup | 14:23 |
| radez | Congress package spec has been merged and currently waiting on the under-review flag to be dropped so the package can be built and promoted. | 14:23 |
| radez | Puppet module and THT patch are written and waiting for the package to be promoted to complete the CI testing. | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | what patches in THT need to be reviewed? | 14:23 |
| radez | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330050/ | 14:23 |
| radez | but currrent status is that it fails on installing the package | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | we got promotion last night | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | please do recheck now | 14:23 |
| radez | congress still has the under-review flag on it | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | ah right sorry | 14:24 |
| radez | so as soon as that's dropped... | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 14:24 |
| radez | so it's moving along :) | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | radez: any ETA? | 14:24 |
| radez | still lots of variables... hope would be by eotw? | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | I hope so | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | radez: let's target Thursday max | 14:24 |
| radez | if things keep moving along and don't hit snags I think that's doable | 14:25 |
| radez | ack, it's top prio with tacker for me right now | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | I'm in a room with RDO folks, i'll lock them :P | 14:25 |
| beagles | lol | 14:25 |
| radez | +2 | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Tacker | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | radez: ^ same question. Where are we? | 14:25 |
| radez | Tacker has packaging and puppet module with acceptance test completed | 14:25 |
| radez | There were updates that needed to be made to the packaging that were corrected and promoted as of late yesterday. | 14:25 |
| radez | THT patch with tacker in ci scenario001 is currently running in CI. | 14:25 |
| radez | My hope is to complete the tacker THT stuff today. | 14:25 |
| radez | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424135/ | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | radez: link? | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:26 |
| radez | just waiting on scenario001 to complete to see where we are | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | radez: let's sync later today or tomorrow to see how things evolve | 14:26 |
| radez | since the puppet acceptance test pasts I would hope we're close | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 14:26 |
| radez | EmilienM: sure will, I'll keep you updated | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | radez: thx for updates & details | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | #info Medium release blocker: FFE: Octavia | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | beagles: o/ | 14:27 |
| beagles | hi | 14:27 |
| beagles | so the patches that are up there need to be rechecked, but I don't expect to have more mods on those except to review feedback | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | do you have a gerrit topic or links handy? | 14:28 |
| beagles | there is one patch remaining that should be up tonight or early tomorrow that is more of a user helper kind of thing for post deployment | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | beagles: no blocker except reviews? | 14:28 |
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| beagles | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/octavia-service-integration | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | beagles: otherwise we can do post deployment in Pike. I don't think it's critical. Worst case, we document it for Ocata and automate it for Pike. | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/octavia-service-integration | 14:28 |
| beagles | EmilienM: for this cycle's objectives mainly yeah | 14:29 |
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| beagles | EmilienM: exactly (re: worse case scenario) | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | beagles: anything else? | 14:29 |
| beagles | EmilienM: nope that's it | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | I skipped the novajoin blueprint because Juan is not online, I'll double check with him but I think we're moving it to Pike at this point. | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to propose RC1 by end of this week if possible or next week. | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | #link Ocata release patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428416/ | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | any feedback, question about release management? | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to double check about novajoin blueprint & ffe status | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:31 | |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm, bnemec: any useful infos this week? | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1662521 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662521 in tripleo "CI: not enough space on mirror-server" [High,Triaged] | 14:31 |
| sshnaidm | we had problem with space on mirror-server | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | yeah we need a script/cron that cleanup for us | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | is it an option to get more storage? | 14:32 |
| sshnaidm | right now it's solved, and patch is proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430257/ | 14:32 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I think yes, need to talk to bnemec | 14:32 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, it's just a vm, we can assign it much more | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: lgtm except my little comment | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: +1 for more space | 14:33 |
| sshnaidm | another question is - do we need to save stable branch images and use them (we save now, but don't use) | 14:33 |
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| sshnaidm | we build images in each stable branch job | 14:33 |
| sshnaidm | so.. if we use the saved ones, it'll reduce time of stable branch job | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | if we build at each runtime, let's cleanup old images | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | but yes, it would save job runtime if we used the saved ones | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | on short term, let's cleanup old images (even stable) and keep only one per release | 14:35 |
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| sshnaidm | EmilienM, ok, then I have some patch for it too, starting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429782/ | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | and probably on long term switch our stable Ci jobs to use saved images | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: excellent | 14:35 |
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| sshnaidm | EmilienM, ok | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: let's make sure we include bnemec & other folks in the discussion | 14:35 |
| sshnaidm | I think that's it | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: thx | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm, bkero, adarazs: anything about quickstart we need to discuss this week? | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | weshay: ^ | 14:36 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, ooooq ha job failing, I'm working on this right now | 14:37 |
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| EmilienM | ok sounds like folks got distracted (/me watching them in the room) | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: ack, let us know if we can review something | 14:37 |
| sshnaidm | sure | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | anything else about CI this week? | 14:37 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: I don't think there's much to discuss. we have a quite a few outstanding cards that we should implement to replace the upstream jobs completely :) | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | adarazs: cool, and reports on openstack-dev are very useful, thx | 14:38 |
| adarazs | EmilienM: np! | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:38 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | if you're working on a spec for Pike and you're attending PTG, feel free to propose a session on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-pike | 14:39 |
| karthiks | We (Myself and skramaja) have raised 2 blueprints for pike. | 14:39 |
| karthiks | 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/ovs-2.6-dpdk -> To handle the DPDK related changes in TripleO for OVS 2.6 migration | 14:39 |
| karthiks | 2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/ovs-2.6-features-dpdk -> To support Jumbo frames and Multiqueue support in TripleO | 14:40 |
| karthiks | We think the changes look small, but please review them and let us know if spec is required for the same. | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | karthiks: do you plan to write a spec or just keep blueprints ? | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | karthiks: ok you answered to my question | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | #action team to look at ovs-2.6 blueprints and give feedback | 14:40 |
| karthiks | skramaja will attend the PTG | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | karthiks: I would announce it on openstack-dev [tripleo] so we can discuss about it on the ML | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | karthiks: and figure if spec is required or not | 14:41 |
| karthiks | EmilienM, Thanks | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | #action karthiks post on ML about ovs-2.6 blueprints and ask for feedback | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | anything else about specs this week? | 14:41 |
| karthiks | EmilienM, ack | 14:42 |
| beagles | The final bits of octavia integration will need a spec I believe - the patch (or docs) I mentioned earlier will basically be pseudo code for the stuff | 14:42 |
| beagles | that needs to be covered by the spec | 14:42 |
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| beagles | I'll follow the same steps as karthiks (mailing list to start discussion, etc) | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | beagles: make sure you mention what has been done in the spec, and what is remaining, etc | 14:43 |
| beagles | EmilienM: right, will do | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | beagles: it's important to use the spec if we need to discuss about design and a direction to take | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | thanks | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | #topic week roadmap | 14:43 |
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| EmilienM | #action High - team to work on Critical / High bugs for ocata-rc1 | 14:43 |
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| EmilienM | link reminder (already posted before) https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/ocata-rc1 | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | #action Medium - team to finish features with granted FFE and help in review | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | #action Low - Pike planning - prepare specs, prepare PTG | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | is there any question about our short term roadmap? | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | is there any doubt or concern? | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | I'll open discussion | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:45 |
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| EmilienM | if you have any question / feedback and topic to bring, feel free now | 14:45 |
| * EmilienM will end the meeting in 30s | 14:46 | |
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| EmilienM | thanks everyone, let's get back to work! | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 14:46:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-02-07-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-02-07-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-02-07-14.00.log.html | 14:47 |
| jpich | Thanks EmilienM :) | 14:47 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 15:07:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:07 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:07 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:07 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:07 |
| tmorin | hi paul | 15:07 |
| tmorin | hi matrohon | 15:07 |
| tmorin | hi doude | 15:07 |
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| bfernando | o/ | 15:10 |
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| matrohon | hi | 15:11 |
| tmorin | hi bfernando, matrohon | 15:11 |
| tmorin | let's start | 15:11 |
| tmorin | on the agenda: | 15:11 |
| tmorin | a) OSC client plugin (doude, if you're around) | 15:12 |
| tmorin | b) BGPVPN API definition and doc in neutron-lib (pcarver) | 15:12 |
| doude | hi tmorin | 15:12 |
| tmorin | c) filtering on GET API calls | 15:12 |
| tmorin | hi doude! | 15:12 |
| tmorin | c) is by doude as well | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | d) bagpipe driver status | 15:12 |
| tmorin | e) open discuss | 15:13 |
| tmorin | #topic OSC client plugin | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | doude ? | 15:14 |
| tmorin | the status is short I guess :) | 15:15 |
| doude | I get one review during last night I should take in account | 15:15 |
| doude | I'll try to do that before the end of the day | 15:15 |
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| doude | nothing since last meeting | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | doude: I tried to provide code snippets to help address this one quickly | 15:16 |
| doude | *more | 15:16 |
| tmorin | yep | 15:16 |
| doude | yes I saw, thanks tmorin | 15:16 |
| tmorin | you're welcome | 15:16 |
| tmorin | #topic BGPVPN API definition in neutron-lib | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGPVPN API definition in neutron-lib (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:16 | |
| tmorin | pcarver ? | 15:16 |
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| tmorin | this one is a marathon :) | 15:16 |
| pcarver | tmorin: getting pretty close. Need to resolve a merge conflict | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | but the finish line seems close now :) | 15:17 |
| pcarver | when I tried to git review yesterday it looked weird | 15:17 |
| tmorin | yes, and adapting the validator to address boden's comments as well | 15:17 |
| pcarver | it looks like my commit is introducing a field changed_at but I'm really not | 15:17 |
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| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413182/ | 15:17 |
| pcarver | it looks like maybe something that someone else removed that I'm inadvertently putting back in. | 15:18 |
| pcarver | just need to verify before I delete it | 15:18 |
| pcarver | oh, sorry I'm talking about API ref, not def | 15:18 |
| tmorin | ah | 15:18 |
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| pcarver | I'll get to the def right after I resolve the merge conflict on the ref | 15:19 |
| tmorin | ok, this one indeed has only a merge issue to resolve | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | ping me if you need help | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | what about the API code definition ? | 15:19 |
| tmorin | do you want help to adapt the validator code as suggested by boden ? | 15:20 |
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| pcarver | I think I understand about adapting the validator but haven't started it yet. I'll give it a try and let you know if I run into problems. | 15:20 |
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| tmorin | pcarver: ok | 15:22 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | #topic filtering on GET API calls | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "filtering on GET API calls (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:22 | |
| tmorin | we've just merged a change by doude to allow filtering by network or router on GET API calls | 15:23 |
| tmorin | this is very useful ! | 15:23 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/426309 | 15:23 |
| tmorin | thanks doude! | 15:23 |
| tmorin | the driver API is changed a bit, but we've checked and drivers are not impacted | 15:23 |
| doude | you're welcome tmorin | 15:24 |
| tmorin | the one out-of-tree driver that was using it (odlv2 driver, work in progress) has been updated later today | 15:24 |
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| pcarver | Is that the standard fields behavior? | 15:24 |
| tmorin | yes | 15:25 |
| tmorin | GET .../bgpvpn/bgpvpns?networks=... | 15:25 |
| tmorin | its standard except that we weren't supporting it for attributes that were lists | 15:26 |
| pcarver | does it also apply to network associations and router associations? | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | these API resources don't have attributes that would be lists | 15:30 |
| tmorin | so they were already supporting being listed with a filter | 15:30 |
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| pcarver | ok | 15:30 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:31 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver status | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | not much to say | 15:31 |
| tmorin | some cleanup changes are in the pipe | 15:31 |
| tmorin | they depend on cleanups in neutron repo | 15:31 |
| tmorin | hopefully all this will merge for ocata | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | #topic open discussion | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | any question/comment anyone ? | 15:32 |
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| tmorin | ok ! | 15:35 |
| tmorin | we're done then! | 15:35 |
| tmorin | i'm not sure there'll be a meeting next week | 15:35 |
| tmorin | I'll be off | 15:35 |
| tmorin | matrohon: would you chair next week ? | 15:36 |
| tmorin | and the following week will be the PTG so no meeting either | 15:36 |
| tmorin | bye everyone | 15:36 |
| pcarver | bye | 15:37 |
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| matrohon | sorry | 15:39 |
| matrohon | I'll do | 15:39 |
| matrohon | tmorin, ^ | 15:39 |
| tmorin | thanks matrohon! | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | closing the meeting... | 15:40 |
| tmorin | bye everyone | 15:40 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 15:40:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-02-07-15.07.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-02-07-15.07.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2017/bgpvpn.2017-02-07-15.07.log.html | 15:40 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 16:03:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:03 |
| Drago1 | o/ | 16:03 |
| hieulq_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| strigazi | o/ | 16:03 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:03 |
| vijendar_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| coreyob | o/ | 16:03 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 16:03 |
| randallburt | o/ | 16:04 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:04 |
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| jasond | o/ | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello Drago1, hieulq_, strigazi, jvgrant, vijendar_, coreyob, krtaylor, randallburt, tonanhngo, and jasond | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2017-02-07_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) We will not have an IRC team meeting on 2017-02-21 because of the Atlanta PTG event. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | there was actually one action item, but I don't have it recorded. One moment. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | 1) ACTION: Community to brainstorm and vote on etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | Status: in progress | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | we can revisit this today. | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | 2) ACTION: adrian_otto Confirm/triage potential bug 1659431 | 16:09 |
| openstack | bug 1659431 in Magnum "Unexpected response from microversioned API" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659431 - Assigned to Jason Dunsmore (jasondunsmore) | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | Status: Complete. jasond was working on it | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | any discussion on the action items? | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | Essential Blueprints | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes Flatten Attributes [strigazi] | 16:10 |
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| strigazi | I have done progress but I still miss the transactional reads and writes, I work exclusively on that | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:12 |
| strigazi | I'll write some tests | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | thanks strigazi | 16:12 |
| strigazi | to use swatson's db tests | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | do you and swatson need to plan any coordination, or do you have what you need? | 16:12 |
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| strigazi | I'm good | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups [Drago] | 16:13 |
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| jvgrant | new reviews up. | 16:13 |
| Drago1 | No update from me. There are specs that have been split up and ready for review | 16:13 |
| jvgrant | got some feedback waiting for a little more before next revision | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425422/ | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425431/ | 16:14 |
| jvgrant | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427060/ | 16:14 |
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| strigazi | jvgrant Is there a dependency betweem them? | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'll plan to review those and relay input. Others, please do as well. | 16:15 |
| Drago1 | 427060 is relatively independent | 16:15 |
| jvgrant | strigazi: a little but they are divided to be mostly single topic so we can review easier | 16:15 |
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| strigazi | how is it related to NGs? | 16:16 |
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| strigazi | I mean 427060 | 16:16 |
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| jvgrant | for example we should be able to approve the overview of general nodegroups separately from CLI details | 16:16 |
| strigazi | jvgrant ok | 16:16 |
| Drago1 | 425422 is the nodegroup overview, which we're hoping can be merged before getting into smaller details in other specs | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | good | 16:17 |
| jvgrant | 427060 was something that was proposed as part of the v2 CLI, we separated it out so make it clearer | 16:17 |
| Drago1 | strigazi: 427060 is a change that we lumped into the original nodegroup spec, but we can vote on it on its own | 16:17 |
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| Drago1 | jvgrant: Uh, jinx | 16:17 |
| jvgrant | Drago1: :) | 16:17 |
| strigazi | on it's own is better | 16:17 |
| Drago1 | Please review it! | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:18 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | any further discussion on Node Groups? | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster Upgrades [strigazi] | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | hello swatson | 16:19 |
| swatson | o/ | 16:19 |
| strigazi | I'm preparing a revision for phase 1, I don't have something now | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | Other Work Items | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/430071 Adding Magnum Governance | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | in continuation of our discussion yesterday, I have written down guidance for how the Magnum project is run and what the leading philosophy currently is. | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | I'd like to refine this to accurately capture the intent of our team. | 16:23 |
| * krtaylor looks | 16:24 | |
| adrian_otto | correction: this is a continuation of our discussion last week in our PTG planning etherpad at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions | 16:24 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | hello juggler | 16:26 |
| juggler | hello adrian_otto | 16:26 |
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| Drago1 | Will review, adrian_otto | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Drago1 | 16:27 |
| jasond | adrian_otto: reviewing | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | if you have any concerns about any of the contents, let's discuss them and get something we like. | 16:28 |
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| adrian_otto | Would any other team members like to raise other work items for discussion now? | 16:29 |
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| adrian_otto | okay, then I'd like to spend a few minutes to let you review the governance review, and then we can revisit https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions together | 16:32 |
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| jvgrant | ok, reading it now | 16:33 |
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| * juggler is reading it too | 16:34 | |
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| jvgrant | I think the calling out the importance of iterative improvements is good | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, that's a key issue that I think has slowed our team progress through the Ocata cycle. | 16:39 |
| swatson | I like it overall | 16:40 |
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| tonanhngo | It's a good start, it seems to apply in general to any project, not just Magnum | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | tonanhngo: I have tried to model this based on my understanding of how other projects are run, and what's worked best for my teams in the past | 16:41 |
| tonanhngo | It may be good to cover a bit more on handling disagreement | 16:41 |
| strigazi | You can link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ptl.html and http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#code-review I think | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | it should not be Magnum specific, but each project may adopt a slightly different philosophy (say with respect to quality) depending on it's journey though a maturity cycle | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: good suggestions. I'll add those. | 16:42 |
| Drago1 | adrian_otto: What about finding team consensus when most of the team hasn't weighed in? In what cases should we wait, and in what cases should an absence of input be taken as silent acceptance? | 16:43 |
| swatson | Drago1 +1 | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | Drago1: I tried to express that we must not intentionally exclude any stakeholders | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | but we can't possibly know every potential stakeholder either in order to invite them | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | so Team Consensus should be defined based on who is participating | 16:44 |
| randallburt | Drago1: good question, but I'd hate to see this document get *too* proscriptive. At some point, PTL best judgement should just kick in IMO. | 16:44 |
| jasond | Drago1: i was just adding a comment about that | 16:44 |
| strigazi | We also need to maintain corporate diversity | 16:44 |
| jasond | randallburt: that argument has held up a lot of patches | 16:45 |
| jvgrant | randallburt: +1 | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | and we should consider invoting those who who we think may be stakeholders to participate | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | so the PTL is the decider if Team Consensus is not clear | 16:45 |
| randallburt | jasond: true, and I certainly wouldn't -1 over adding detail around it, but I still caution getting too in-the-weeds here | 16:46 |
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| adrian_otto | this approach relies on the team's trust for that individual to make well reasoned decisions and consult key stakeholders before deciding | 16:46 |
| jasond | randallburt: good point | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: I acknowledge the interest in having affiliation diversity, but that is a two sided coin | 16:47 |
| Drago1 | I would like stakeholders to +1 (possibly +2) even if there's disagreement. Otherwise, patches can sit with one -1 and no one gives further input, including that they're totally fine with the patch as it is. | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | sometimes the only stakeholders for a particular pursuit are largely from a single affiliation | 16:47 |
| randallburt | I'd hate to see us try and put in things like detailed time boxing review processes and quorum numbers and whatnot. In the end, "we're all adults here" IMO. | 16:47 |
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| Drago1 | *including -> even if | 16:47 |
| randallburt | a -1 or two shouldn't mean the patch is held up indefinitely. this is a problem IMO with lots of OpenStack projects | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | Drago1: If reviewers become reluctant to voice their opinions, that's a symptom of a malfunctioning team | 16:48 |
| adrian_otto | it means that as reviewers, we are not setting a welcoming and positive tone. | 16:48 |
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| adrian_otto | and that's something that should be solved with involvement from our team's leaders | 16:49 |
| jasond | randallburt: especially if the -1 has been replied to (in a comment) by the author | 16:49 |
| jvgrant | adrian_otto, strigazi: I think when concerns of that kind of diversity are there we need to ask: 1) does this make magnum better? 2) Does this cause a block to others needs? | 16:49 |
| randallburt | jasond: exactly | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | that's one of the two quesitons | 16:49 |
| Drago1 | adrian_otto: ^ like what randallburt said, I don't think it's necessarily a problem with the team, more like setting of expectations around when to vote and when to wait | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | does this do any harm | 16:49 |
| randallburt | jvgrant: agreed | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | perhaps we can add language to expand on that idea | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | Drago1: acknowledged. | 16:50 |
| jvgrant | as long as it doesn't then I don't have an issue of a use case or feature coming from just one company | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: right | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I wanted to get a little more input on this etherpad: | 16:51 |
| jvgrant | that is going to happen as one group might need a feature well before others. strigazi, you know this well from the usages you have done that are ahead of many others | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-pike-ptg-sessions PTG Session Planning | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | and some time for open discussion | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:52 |
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| vijendar | I am looking for feedback on one of my in review patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427507/ | 16:52 |
| juggler | are +1s being accepted for the PTG etherpad? | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | feel free to continue feedback on any of the above | 16:52 |
| strigazi | About the ptg do we have a number of rooms and timeslots? | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: We should expect to have 1 room for the last 3 days | 16:53 |
| randallburt | should be 1 room and all day erryday | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | so we can slice up the time as needed | 16:53 |
| strigazi | how many days? | 16:53 |
| strigazi | 3? | 16:53 |
| randallburt | 3 | 16:53 |
| strigazi | 9 to 5? | 16:53 |
| randallburt | yup | 16:53 |
| randallburt | PTG is like mid-cycles | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | It's 3, but we may end early on the last day depending on what travel constraints we all have | 16:53 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | so plan for at least 2.5 days, and we might go a bit longer if we need more time, and we can stay | 16:54 |
| randallburt | and some of us may have to bounce around a little | 16:55 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, if you do have times you know you'll be out, please let me know, and I'll see what shuffling we can do to accommodate you. | 16:56 |
| randallburt | will do | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | juggler: yes, if there are sessions you think we should discuss in the PTG, feel free to put +1 comments in the etherpad to express that interest | 16:57 |
| juggler | adrian_otto awesome. already done :) | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | tx | 16:58 |
| juggler | adrian_otto ty! | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | Thanks for attending today. Our next team meeting is 2017-02-14 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 7 16:59:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2017/containers.2017-02-07-16.03.html | 16:59 |
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| juggler | thx for coordinating adrian_otto | 17:00 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 17:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:02 |
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| felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_mb: I've begun adding items to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-atlanta-ptg | 17:02 |
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| felipemonteiro | Also created bp for TLS support here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/add-tls-support | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | cool | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sorry for being inactive on IRC/gerrit lately | 17:06 |
| felipemonteiro | No worries. | 17:06 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I took a small vacation last weekend and was a bit busy with another project of mine | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I still have to create a stable branch for ocata for dashboard I guess ) | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | would do so later today or tommorow early morning | 17:07 |
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| felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_mb: Understandable, I was sick all weekend. | 17:08 |
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| felipemonteiro | Is there any interest in the community to look into TLS support for Murano? Otherwise I'll assign that bp to myself. | 17:09 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | not at the moment, I guess. I'd love to get back and implement smth on murano, but at the moment everyone's busy doing something | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | although it's usually like that around release weeks | 17:11 |
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| felipemonteiro | There's been interest raised where I work for sharing packages across specific packages. I told them this would require a spec, discussion, etc. Was I right? | 17:14 |
| felipemonteiro | packages across specific projects* | 17:15 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | felipemonteiro: at this point we only have public | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | and frankly | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if we stick with using glare | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it's going to be in glare | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | glare would be responsible for artifact visibility, not murano. Murano would only have to implement that on the UI side | 17:19 |
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| felipemonteiro | I see. Are there plans to eventually, in the future, deprecate Murano's package class? | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | package class? | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | you mean db storage of packages? | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well, yes | 17:22 |
| felipemonteiro | Yes, in models.py. | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we had ) | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but glare had a bumpy road over the past 1-2 years | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so it mostly depends on implementing glare 1.0 and glare being supported alive project | 17:23 |
| felipemonteiro | I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself anyway. We need to prioritize upgrading to glare v1 as was already emntioned. | 17:23 |
| felipemonteiro | Yea | 17:23 |
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| felipemonteiro | I'm also wondering whether you know there's any dev working going toward dynamic ui change (i.e. making dynamic ui actually dynamic). | 17:26 |
| felipemonteiro | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/schema-driven-ui | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | felipemonteiro: none from mirantis | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oracle guys expressed interest in that thing | 17:28 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but I'm not sure if they started | 17:29 |
| felipemonteiro | This was something a team at ATT expressed interest in too | 17:29 |
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| felipemonteiro | That's pretty much all the open topic discussion items I had :) | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | that was a lot more that I had tbh ) | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | have you seen the mascot, btw? | 17:32 |
| felipemonteiro | Yeah, it's pretty cool, although not what I expected haha | 17:32 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | huh, I don't think we're expecting anyone to show up =) let's finish early today? | 17:35 |
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| felipemonteiro | kzaitsev_mb: Sounds good to me. | 17:35 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok =) ping me if you would have any more questions =) | 17:37 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:37 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 7 19:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-02-07 | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: let's wait for a few mins for other to join ... | 19:03 |
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| sslypushenko_ | o/ Hi, folks! | 19:04 |
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| hogepodge | hi sslypushenko_ ! long time no chat. :-D | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko_ | hogepodge yeap) | 19:05 |
| catherineD | Let's start ... | 19:06 |
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| catherineD | #topic RefStack mascot | 19:06 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:06 |
| catherineD | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111718.html | 19:06 |
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| hogepodge | I want to introduce mguiney | 19:06 |
| mguiney | o/ | 19:06 |
| mguiney | hello! | 19:06 |
| hogepodge | She just started with the Foundation, and will be helping out with RefStack and the Interop WG | 19:07 |
| catherineD | mguiney: Welcome to RefStack ... | 19:07 |
| pvaneck | Hello :) | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko_ | mguiney: Hi!) | 19:07 |
| catherineD | Today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-02-07 | 19:07 |
| mguiney | nice to meet you! | 19:07 |
| catherineD | so the mascot looks good to me know with bee+honeycomb .. that is what we want ... | 19:09 |
| catherineD | your thoughts? | 19:09 |
| hogepodge | The logo looks great. #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20170206/763c5546/attachment.gif | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko_ | Cool! | 19:10 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: sslypushenko_: ++ I really like this one .. | 19:10 |
| catherineD | so I take that we agree to use that as our mascot ? | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko_ | for sure) | 19:11 |
| mguiney | that does look nice | 19:12 |
| catherineD | #agreed Use http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20170206/763c5546/attachment.gif as RefStack mascot | 19:12 |
| luzC | +1 | 19:12 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: thanks for your idea on bee+honeycomb ... | 19:13 |
| catherineD | moving on ... | 19:13 |
| catherineD | #topic PTG | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:13 | |
| catherineD | #link Please add RefStack PTG topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RefStackInteropWGAtlantaPTG | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | too bad sslypushenko_: will not join us this time ... | 19:14 |
| sslypushenko_ | sad but true ( | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | mguiney: will you be at PTG? | 19:14 |
| mguiney | I am based out of portland, so most likely not, unfortunately | 19:15 |
| catherineD | mguiney: oh .. | 19:16 |
| catherineD | #topic Update RefStack website | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update RefStack website (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:16 | |
| catherineD | we target to update the website on this Friday ... | 19:16 |
| catherineD | there are a few reviews that we would like to merge before the update | 19:17 |
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| catherineD | let's go through the reviews | 19:17 |
| catherineD | #topic Pending reviews | 19:18 |
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| catherineD | #link Added tox target which checks requirements.txt ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410443/ ) | 19:18 |
| * Rockyg sneaks in | 19:19 | |
| luzC | ahh yes... I'm submitting new patch this afternoon | 19:19 |
| luzC | with agreements from last meeting | 19:19 |
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| catherineD | luzC: sure thanks ... please also update the readme in that patch | 19:20 |
| pvaneck | right, this was also submitted to puppet-refstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429117/ | 19:20 |
| luzC | cool, I'll take a look | 19:20 |
| * catherineD waves to Rockyg: | 19:21 | |
| catherineD | pvaneck: luzC: thanks | 19:21 |
| catherineD | #link Add ability to edit products in UI ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427525/ ) | 19:22 |
| catherineD | and | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko_ | merged =) | 19:22 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: you are fast!!! | 19:22 |
| catherineD | #link Show message when vendor/product is created ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428478/ ) | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | yeap) | 19:23 |
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| sslypushenko_ | I have merged all of them | 19:23 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: thank you ... | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko_ | all patches LGTM | 19:23 |
| catherineD | that is great ... | 19:24 |
| catherineD | that bring us to the last topic ... | 19:24 |
| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:24 | |
| catherineD | any other discussion you have in mind ...? | 19:25 |
| hogepodge | I know that annegentle was looking at setting up refstack client | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | She's been using containers, and trying to simplify the process. Might be something we could take advantage of and integrate into the client. | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | Just thinking out loud. | 19:26 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: sslypushenko_: did set up a docker container on refstack-client | 19:27 |
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| sslypushenko_ | there is no problem to pack refstack-client in container | 19:27 |
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| sslypushenko_ | should work almost out-of-the-box | 19:28 |
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| hogepodge | sslypushenko_: is there documentation for that? | 19:29 |
| catherineD | maybe I do not remember it correctly sslypushenko_: the docker container you set up is for refstack or refstack-client? | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko_ | https://github.com/openstack/refstack-client/tree/master/refstack_client/tests/smoke | 19:29 |
| hogepodge | I see runindocker in test_distros.py | 19:29 |
| sslypushenko_ | that is it... I used this script to test refstack-client setup againts set of linux distros | 19:30 |
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| hogepodge | ok, I see | 19:30 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: yup | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko_ | https://github.com/openstack/refstack-client/blob/master/refstack_client/tests/smoke/test_distros.py#L17 | 19:30 |
| sslypushenko_ | to be precise that is almost it) | 19:31 |
| hogepodge | :-D | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko_ | but I guess it will be a bit convenient to have one-click script | 19:31 |
| hogepodge | could be that we publish releases of the client to dockerhub, if we can work out a good way to get the configuration into it. | 19:32 |
| hogepodge | my docker skills are admittedly weak... | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko_ | It is over complication | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko_ | couple of bash scripts should enough | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | I have some set of scripts handy | 19:33 |
| hogepodge | The bash scripts modify your working environment.Usually not a problem since I'm spinning up a VM to run refstack-client anyway. | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | I'll try to find some free time to provide a patch | 19:34 |
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| sslypushenko_ | these scripts will be just wrapper for docker commands | 19:34 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: that is great thanks .. | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko_ | so no need in VM and could runned locally | 19:34 |
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| catherineD | for me I use the same VM but create different directory for refstack-client each time I want to upgrade refstack or tempest ... | 19:35 |
| catherineD | sicne refstack-client tests in virtual env any way ... | 19:35 |
| catherineD | this work perfect for me | 19:36 |
| catherineD | I do not need a new VM each time | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | Anne was excited about running it in the containers, so I wanted to forward the experience. :-D | 19:36 |
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| sslypushenko_ | Containers are much lighter than VM so | 19:37 |
| sslypushenko_ | it can be helpful | 19:38 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: absolutely ... it is great to have users bringing in new ideas .. that would enrich our project | 19:38 |
| garloff | +1 | 19:38 |
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| catherineD | now that we pretty much implemented vendor/product registration, the next big item for RefStack is custom guideline .. | 19:40 |
| sslypushenko_ | refstack have a way to be run in docker, so refstack client should be able to =) | 19:40 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: ++ | 19:41 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:41 |
| mguiney | ++ | 19:41 |
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| Rockyg | We need a white paper or a superuser article to advertise these tools and techniques | 19:42 |
| Rockyg | We have so mmuch experience here, we should spread the knowledge. | 19:42 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: ++ | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko_ | My thoughts about custom guidelines are that we have to find some early adopters for this feature | 19:43 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko_: ++ .. | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko_ | to get understanding what should be done here | 19:43 |
| catherineD | that is one of the topic at PTG ... too bad we do not have sslypushenko_: in person .. | 19:43 |
| catherineD | I will try to contact Andrey too | 19:44 |
| catherineD | it takes time to get here ... but we finally start working on it | 19:44 |
| garloff | We would certainly want to give it a try... | 19:45 |
| catherineD | garloff: for sure .. we will | 19:45 |
| garloff | ;-) | 19:46 |
| catherineD | any last bits any one wants to add .. | 19:46 |
| catherineD | hearing nothing. I think we can close up for today | 19:48 |
| catherineD | thanks everyone | 19:49 |
| catherineD | bye | 19:49 |
| mguiney | have a good day! | 19:49 |
| garloff | Bye | 19:49 |
| sslypushenko_ | Bye | 19:49 |
| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:49 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-02-07-19.00.html | 19:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-02-07-19.00.txt | 19:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2017/refstack.2017-02-07-19.00.log.html | 19:49 |
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