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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 10:03:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:03 |
| tonyb | #topic roll call | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:03 | |
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| dirk | o/ | 10:03 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus, number80, coolsvap, toabctl | 10:03 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 10:04 |
| tonyb | we have an appology from prometheanfire | 10:04 |
| toabctl | hi | 10:04 |
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| tonyb | Hi, coolsvap toabctl | 10:05 |
| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | I think it's pretty clean really | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | there's a high number of reviews with negative votes from jenkins but I don't see anything problematic in there | 10:06 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/365837 is a little questionable so it'd be good to see feedback on that | 10:07 |
| tonyb | anyone else? | 10:07 |
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| * coolsvap is bit behind on the current status | 10:09 | |
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| tonyb | coolsvap: that's fair ... I hope you're getting better | 10:09 |
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| dirk | tonyb: yeah, I couldn't make up my mind on this yet | 10:09 |
| coolsvap | i will put things on reviews if find anything controversial | 10:09 |
| dirk | it certainly overlaps with other uses, I didn't want to take a side there as I'm not unbiased | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: fair enough | 10:09 |
| dirk | the only other thing is the posix-ipx removal I guess | 10:10 |
| dirk | I think its blocked on one review, if that doesn't move soon I'd vote for stop caring | 10:10 |
| tonyb | dirk: the thing that clinched it for me was if we -1 it then oslo_messaging will end up requireing monasca-statsd which IMO doesn't seem right | 10:10 |
| tonyb | dirk: Yeah that's blocked on the blazar stuff | 10:11 |
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| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/blazar+branch:master+topic:feature/goal-remove-incubated-oslo-code | 10:11 |
| tonyb | ^^^ that's the "blazar stuff" | 10:11 |
| dirk | tonyb: yeah.. monitoring services it the next hype it seems. way too many things | 10:11 |
| dirk | its not yet visible in the queue but it looks like we'r eprogressing slowly on the docker-py uncap. | 10:12 |
| dirk | haven't looked at where we're stuck today yet though | 10:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: cool. IIRC that's blocked by a change in the releases repo | 10:12 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Hmm actually that seems to have gone through | 10:13 |
| dirk | tonyb: no, we still have the conflict over tripleo-common | 10:14 |
| dirk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406443/ | 10:14 |
| dirk | ah, I see tonyb commented on that. I missed that | 10:14 |
| * dirk will fix | 10:14 | |
| tonyb | dirk: cool. | 10:15 |
| tonyb | dirk: I shoudl have just fixed it, sorry | 10:16 |
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| dirk | no worries, I have not yet completely fixed my gerrit email filtering setup.. some mails go to nowhere right now | 10:17 |
| tonyb | dirk: Ahh okay. | 10:17 |
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| tonyb | dirk: sometimes I wish it'd be nice if mine went to /dev/null ;P | 10:18 |
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| tonyb | #topic Requirements priorities for Ocata | 10:18 |
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| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:18 |
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| tonyb | dirk: I see you've done a few more awesome! I'll review them. | 10:18 |
| tonyb | I wonder if it's worth automating them | 10:19 |
| dirk | I started looking at that but there are so many differences in the projects.. | 10:19 |
| dirk | I wonder, do we always want to use tools/tox_install.sh ? | 10:19 |
| dirk | or only where its needed? it seems some projects just use pip -c ${magic git url} -U {opts} | 10:19 |
| dirk | directly. I guess tahts okay as long as they don't run into a conflict, right? | 10:20 |
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| tonyb | dirk: if $project is listed in upper-constratints.txt then they have to use tools/tox_install.sh | 10:21 |
| tonyb | so nova can just use the -c {URL} but python-novaclient can't | 10:21 |
| dirk | I see | 10:22 |
| dirk | that makes sense. we should have a check for that | 10:22 |
| tonyb | dirk: so *if* grep -i $(python setup.py --name) /path/to/upperconstratints.txt is emapty then it's a quick one liner | 10:22 |
| dirk | probably something for validate-constraints ? | 10:22 |
| tonyb | otherwise we need the other oneliner + tools/tox_install.sh | 10:23 |
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| tonyb | we'll hit problems with some of the neutron-stadium projects and horizon plugins butI have a cunning plan for them also | 10:23 |
| tonyb | dirk: I don't follow? validate-constratints? | 10:24 |
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| dirk | tonyb: well, whenever we merge reviews that extend upper-constraints we need to check that they use the proper way of restricting upper-constraints on that particular project imho | 10:24 |
| dirk | extend upper-constraints.txt in global requirements repo.. | 10:25 |
| dirk | since in theory additional upper-constraints might be pulled in by version updates somewhere that depend on new stuff.. | 10:25 |
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| tonyb | dirk: I understand now. Yeah we shoudl probably do that with a tool rather than manual checking | 10:26 |
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| dirk | tonyb: lets put it on the task list? I can't commit to the action item right now | 10:28 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure. | 10:28 |
| tonyb | the focus needs to be getting u-c supprt up | 10:28 |
| tonyb | then we can do more of the divergent requirements work that's actually interesting | 10:28 |
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| tonyb | Anything else for priorities? | 10:29 |
| dirk | do we have a blueprint or bug for this? I haven't hit it but I guess at some point someone will ask for it | 10:30 |
| dirk | (the uc-handling-unification part I mean, to be referenced in the reviews against all the projects) | 10:30 |
| tonyb | dirk: No we don't but I shoudl create one so we have a common place to answer questions | 10:30 |
| tonyb | dirk: I shoudl also email os-dev about what we're doing | 10:30 |
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| tonyb | #action tonyb to create a blueprint and email os-dev to explain the divergent requirements work and how that applies to u-c | 10:32 |
| dirk | well, I guess a launchpad id against all the projects that are affected (or that get reviews) is a good first start to unify communication | 10:32 |
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| tonyb | dirk: I'm unlikey to create that thing, but a blueprint and a std. gerrit topic + an email will go a long way to doing the same thing | 10:33 |
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| dirk | tonyb: wfm | 10:35 |
| tonyb | dirk: cool | 10:35 |
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| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 10:35 |
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| tonyb | anything? | 10:35 |
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| tonyb | Looks like we're close to wrapping up | 10:37 |
| tonyb | I'd just like to say thank you to all the reviewers who are working on this. I'd not fun but it is important | 10:38 |
| tonyb | I'd also like to say I'm always open to feedback on what I can do better as PTL | 10:38 |
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| tonyb | and encourage people to think about PTL spot for Pike. I'm happy to run but if y'all want a change that's also cool | 10:40 |
| dirk | ugh, there are 2 more months for that :) | 10:40 |
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| tonyb | dirk: sure but if we start thinking now it wont sneak up on us | 10:41 |
| dirk | we should think about the PTG as well | 10:42 |
| * dirk will be there | 10:42 | |
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| tonyb | dirk: Yeah I'll be there too. We have some "space" during the 2 horizontal days but I don't know what that means | 10:43 |
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| tonyb | okay if there isn't anything else ... | 10:45 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 10:45:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-12-07-10.03.html | 10:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-12-07-10.03.txt | 10:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-12-07-10.03.log.html | 10:45 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 10:45 |
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| dirk | thanks tonyb for running the meeting! | 10:46 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 14:00:59 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 14:01 | |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni | Here is agenda for today's meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-12-07_1400_UTC | 14:02 |
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| vijendar | devkulkarni: hi | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni | hey hi vijendar | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni | good morning | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni | I just started our weekly irc meeting | 14:09 |
| vijendar | any one else joined today's meeting? | 14:09 |
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| devkulkarni | not yet.. lets see if zhurong, caowei, Ablu join | 14:09 |
| vijendar | sure | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | btw, here is today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-12-07_1400_UTC | 14:10 |
| Ablu | eh | 14:10 |
| Ablu | still on the wrong timezone... | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | Ablu: great to see you | 14:10 |
| Ablu | i need to fix my calender entry | 14:10 |
| Ablu | hi :) | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | :) | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | I guess we can get started.. | 14:10 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Discussion | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni | 1) Looks like our Devstack gate on Ubuntu Xenial is broken | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni | #link Looks like our Devstack gate on Ubuntu Xenial is broken | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406254/2 | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106906.html | 14:12 |
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| vijendar | looking at the change | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni | basically, this is openstack-wide effort to move ubuntu gates from trusty to xenial | 14:13 |
| devkulkarni | infra team was going to do the switch on December 6th. so looks like yesterday that happened | 14:13 |
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| vijendar | I see | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: yeah | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: here is the failure link http://logs.openstack.org/54/406254/3/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm-ubuntu-xenial/d06a54f/ | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni | that email on openstack-dev list outlines the steps for testing/fixing it | 14:15 |
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| devkulkarni | so till the time we fix the gate, lets not approve any patches | 14:15 |
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| vijendar | make sense | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:16 |
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| devkulkarni | Second update is that solum-infra-guestagent has been official removed from solum governance | 14:16 |
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| devkulkarni | here is the ml discussion about it http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/106387.html | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni | and here is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401990/ | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni | this was merged yesterday | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni | so now we have three main repos: solum, python-solumclient, solum-dashboard | 14:18 |
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| devkulkarni | those were the main two topics that I wanted to discuss today | 14:19 |
| vijendar | one less repo is good | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | yep | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: agree | 14:19 |
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| devkulkarni | Ablu: how are your patches coming along? | 14:19 |
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| devkulkarni | looks like Ablu got disconnected | 14:24 |
| vijendar | yeah | 14:24 |
| devkulkarni | Ablu: lets catch up in solum irc channel later today and discuss about your patches | 14:24 |
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| devkulkarni | anything else that we should discuss today? | 14:25 |
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| vijendar | nothing from me | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 14:25 |
| devkulkarni | I guess we can end the meeting then | 14:25 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks vijendar Ablu for joining today | 14:25 |
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| devkulkarni | see you in solum irc channel | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 14:26:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-07-14.00.html | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-07-14.00.txt | 14:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-07-14.00.log.html | 14:26 |
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| Ablu | devkulkarni: i am busy | 14:27 |
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| rkukura | hello ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
| brianstajkowski | hey | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev_ | hello | 16:01 |
| rkukura | who else is here for the ML2 meeting today? | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | I think the 3 of us make quorum, but more are welcome to participate | 16:02 |
| rkukura | 4 of us actually | 16:02 |
| rkukura | let’s get started… | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 16:03:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_December_7.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
| rkukura | same agenda as we’ve been using for a while | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | Anything to add or remove? | 16:04 |
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| yamamoto | no updates from me | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | Reminder that PTG (Project Teams Gathering) registration is open - around 300 slots remaining | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | I already registered | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I will be attending | 16:06 |
| rkukura | I believe Sukhdev_ said he is going, and I’m likely to go, so its an opportunity to discuss ML2 work | 16:06 |
| yamamoto | i'm going | 16:07 |
| rkukura | great! | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Any other announcements? | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | ok… | 16:08 |
| rkukura | #topic Bugs/RFEs | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | Does andreas_s or brianstajkowski have any update on the nova live migration work? | 16:09 |
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| brianstajkowski | yes, so the spec is close | 16:09 |
| brianstajkowski | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309416 | 16:09 |
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| brianstajkowski | waiting on our testing in wip patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293/ | 16:10 |
| brianstajkowski | to finalize what we are doing with portbinding and distributedportbinding tables | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I reviewed the spec - it looks good | 16:10 |
| brianstajkowski | in that same patch we completed the sub resource work, so that's complete | 16:10 |
| rkukura | brianstajkowski: Do you mean exposing the bindings as sub resources of the port in the API? | 16:11 |
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| brianstajkowski | yes | 16:11 |
| rkukura | great! | 16:11 |
| rkukura | Any issues or concerns to discuss? | 16:11 |
| brianstajkowski | in the spec line 638 I made some assumptions on how the activate would work, need some feedback there | 16:12 |
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| brianstajkowski | mainly trying to figure out a way to make the switchover a bit seemless although there will be slight interruptions in traffic | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | brianstajkowski: Is this active RPC from the L2 agent, or from nova? | 16:13 |
| brianstajkowski | the only way to get around this is for the source migration host to send out a spoofed GARP, while the target migration host is plugging the vif maybe? | 16:13 |
| brianstajkowski | yes | 16:13 |
| brianstajkowski | nova, this is the activate call | 16:13 |
| brianstajkowski | which will trigger an rpc to plug the vif | 16:13 |
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| brianstajkowski | on the target host and unplug on the source host | 16:13 |
| rkukura | Is this a AMQP RPC, or a REST call? | 16:14 |
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| brianstajkowski | so REST from nova to activate, then this might trigger an AMQP RPC to the source and target to plug unplug their vifs | 16:14 |
| brianstajkowski | maybe i'm off base here but just looking for feedback in the spec | 16:15 |
| rkukura | OK. I usually think AMQP when I see “RPC” | 16:15 |
| brianstajkowski | so do i lol | 16:15 |
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| rkukura | Originally, the nova/neutron interactions were entirely REST, but we did start using notifications, so I was wondering if AMQP RPCs were now on the table? | 16:16 |
| brianstajkowski | not from nova | 16:16 |
| rkukura | OK | 16:16 |
| brianstajkowski | rest to neutron api, rpc from neutron api to agents etc | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | OK | 16:17 |
| rkukura | Any concerns with this model supporting agentless ML2 mechanism drivers? | 16:17 |
| brianstajkowski | in that case possibly, i'll go back on that one | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I think this should be OK for agent less drivers | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | OK, I clearly need to review the current spec before asking too many more questions | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev_ | as long as these are new calls and old ones are unchanged - this should be fine | 16:19 |
| brianstajkowski | ok, good to know, i'll go through it as well, but yes line 638 is the rough area that needs some feedback | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | anything else on this? | 16:20 |
| brianstajkowski | no thank you | 16:20 |
| rkukura | thanks brianstajkowski! | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | Are there any other bugs/RFEs anyone would like to discuss? | 16:21 |
| rkukura | #topic Driver API Feature Requests | 16:21 |
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| rkukura | I don’t see any new developments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583096 | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583096 in neutron "ml2 supported extensions list is inaccurate" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:22 |
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| yamamoto | i guess we should start from something simple. | 16:23 |
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| yamamoto | eg. report a set of extensions which all configured drivers support | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: I think we need to address two categories of extensions - those built into the ML2 core plugin, and those implemented as ML2 extension drivers | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | Are you suggesting that if an extension built into the ML2 core plugin is not supported by all registered MDs, it should not be enabled in the API (and advertized in the extensions list)? | 16:27 |
| yamamoto | yes | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | I’m not sure I would agree | 16:28 |
| yamamoto | do we have any extension implemented purely in extension driver? | 16:28 |
| rkukura | I see the API as advertizing everything that can be done, but port binding determining what actually gets done | 16:29 |
| rkukura | Isn’t QoS in an ED? | 16:29 |
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| yamamoto | qos needs notification drivers, which is usually 1:1 with mech drivers | 16:29 |
| rkukura | And I know there are 3rd party MDs that have corresponding EDs that implement extensions | 16:30 |
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| yamamoto | for example? | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: New drivers being developed for Cisco APIC expose the APIC resources to which Neutron resources are mapped via an extension (normally admin-only) | 16:33 |
| yamamoto | a problem of port-binding time decision is we don't have a good way to report a failure to api users. | 16:34 |
| rkukura | And that driver can be used via HPB with other drivers that know nothing about APIC or its extension | 16:35 |
| yamamoto | interesting. thank you | 16:35 |
| rkukura | I suggest we try to have an in-depth discussion of how extensions are advertized and enforced at the PTG | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | And come up with a plan if we are going to change anything | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev_ | +1 | 16:36 |
| rkukura | I think there are several valid but conflicting views on this | 16:36 |
| rkukura | lets move on… | 16:37 |
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| yamamoto | sure | 16:37 |
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| rkukura | There is a patch in review for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1587401 | 16:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587401 in neutron "Helper method to change status of port to abnormal state is needed in ml2." [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016) | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Its https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336068/ | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Looks like no updates in the past month or so | 16:38 |
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| yamamoto | i think the patch itself is fine. multiple MD concern is still valid though. | 16:39 |
| rkukura | I see I had one minor comment drafted, but never completed my review | 16:40 |
| rkukura | Any other dicussion of driver api feature requests? | 16:41 |
| rkukura | if not… | 16:41 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:41 |
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| rkukura | Any other items to discuss today? | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev_ | radhikam : are you here? | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I guess we are done | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : nothing from me | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I assume radhikam is the person you said pinged you? | 16:43 |
| Sukhdev_ | yup | 16:43 |
| radhikam | I am here | 16:43 |
| rkukura | hi radhikam! | 16:43 |
| radhikam | hi rkukura | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev_ | radhikam : this is the forum to ask any questions you may still have | 16:44 |
| andreas_s | brianstajkowski, FYI: just commented on your spec | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : hey stranger!!! | 16:45 |
| andreas_s | Sukhdev_, hehe | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : are you going to PTG in Atlanta? | 16:46 |
| radhikam | Thanks Sukhdev! I am going over the information you gave me yesterday. Will bring up any questions I have in this meeting next time. | 16:46 |
| andreas_s | Sukhdev_, no, I'm not planning to attend... | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | radhikam : sounds good - | 16:46 |
| rkukura | Anything else today, or can we wrap up a bit early? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s : rkukura, yamamoto, and I plan on going - you should come along - we can have detailed ML2 discussions | 16:47 |
| rkukura | OK, thanks everyone! | 16:48 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 16:48:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-07-16.03.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-07-16.03.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-07-16.03.log.html | 16:48 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 16:49 |
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| andreas_s | Sukhdev_, ok, good to know - our summit/ptg strategy is not yet clear - but at the moment it looks like that I will not attend... but things might change - i keep you guys up to date | 16:51 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 17:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | ping timsim Kiall | 17:02 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
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| sonuk | \o | 17:03 |
| mugsie | OK, lets go then :) | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:03 | |
| mugsie | Gate was broken, now fixed# | 17:03 |
| timsim | Nice | 17:03 |
| mugsie | so can people start issueing recheckes? | 17:03 |
| mugsie | and doing some reviews :P | 17:04 |
| timsim | :) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:04 | |
| mugsie | We have not had a meeting in a while, so none outstanding :) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:04 | |
| timsim | I think this one is still waiting on you mugsie https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:05 |
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| timsim | Then there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1646759 | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1646759 in Designate "tsig key in akamai backend not working" [Undecided,New] | 17:05 |
| mugsie | timsim: mark as imcomplete - ask for the output of the tsig keys, and logs from miniDNS | 17:06 |
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| timsim | k | 17:06 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1647926 looks like it needs a new client version, I'll see if I can find the dup | 17:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1647926 in python-designateclient "openstack zone list --all-projects doesn't work." [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
| timsim | s/version/release | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | yeah, I ned a release | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie release python-designateclient | 17:07 |
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| timsim | That's it :) | 17:08 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:08 |
| mugsie | #topic Back Ports | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | Well, we have not merged anything recently | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | so, nothing to propose :) | 17:09 |
| mugsie | but - can people review the outstanding backports? | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | going once | 17:11 |
| mugsie | twice | 17:11 |
| sonuk | mugsie: about designate PTG. | 17:11 |
| mugsie | sonuk: yes | 17:11 |
| mugsie | we will not have an offical spot | 17:11 |
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| sonuk | will it be virtual | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | I am not sure | 17:11 |
| mugsie | I may only go for the first 2 days | 17:12 |
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| sonuk | Because tomorrow is the last day d | 17:12 |
| mugsie | (which are cross project) | 17:12 |
| sonuk | day for travel support | 17:12 |
| mugsie | ah, OK. | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | we will not have offical meetings there. The team on this will not be funded by our employeer, and I think timsim is a maybe ? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | so, there is not much point in going | 17:13 |
| mugsie | I might go as PTL to the cross project meetings | 17:14 |
| timsim | Yeah it hasn't been brought up for me yet :/ | 17:14 |
| mugsie | K | 17:14 |
| timsim | It's kind of out of sight | 17:14 |
| sonuk | Ok | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | anything else? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | going once | 17:16 |
| mugsie | twice | 17:16 |
| mugsie | gone! | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 17:16:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-07-17.02.html | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-07-17.02.txt | 17:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-07-17.02.log.html | 17:16 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:16 |
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| peterstac | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 18:01:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is peterstac. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| trevormc | o/ | 18:01 |
| pmalik | 😝/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:01 |
| schang | o/ | 18:01 |
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| dloi | o/ | 18:01 |
| aliadil | o/ | 18:01 |
| amrith | thx for driving peterstac | 18:01 |
| peterstac | hi all | 18:01 |
| amrith | johnma will likely not be here today | 18:01 |
| peterstac | ah amrith, you're here | 18:01 |
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| mvandijk | aloha | 18:02 |
| peterstac | do you want to drive? | 18:02 |
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| amrith | yes, you beat me by about 1m; no go ahead | 18:02 |
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| peterstac | ok, we'll wait a minute for people to trickle in | 18:02 |
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| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
| peterstac | Might as well get started then | 18:03 |
| peterstac | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:03 |
| peterstac | #topic review status | 18:04 |
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| peterstac | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing | 18:04 |
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| peterstac | looks like we're holding steady with the reviews | 18:04 |
| peterstac | but we've got a bunch of new things added, so I guess we'll have to step up our game :D | 18:05 |
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| peterstac | anything anyone wants to add? | 18:06 |
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| peterstac | #topic code reviews | 18:06 |
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| amrith | nothing from me; you should exhale now, you are going blue | 18:06 |
| peterstac | There aren't any in the agenda, does anyone want to talk about one ad hoc? | 18:07 |
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| amrith | pmalik, had asked for something to get reviewed earlier; I believe that it merged, yes? | 18:07 |
| amrith | something that needed a rebase. | 18:07 |
| peterstac | the policy stuff | 18:08 |
| pmalik | yes that was the policies. thanks everybody. | 18:08 |
| amrith | yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402214/ merged | 18:08 |
| peterstac | yes, that merged about an hour ago | 18:08 |
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| pmalik | I also pushed up a bunch on Couchbase and API controllers... | 18:08 |
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| peterstac | pmalik, is there one (or several) that you'd like looked at first? | 18:10 |
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| pmalik | Well all of them :P Probably https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407125/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406395/ | 18:11 |
| pmalik | Other couchbase stuff (users&databases) depends on it... | 18:11 |
| pmalik | Then there is also couchbase cluster support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392990/ | 18:12 |
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| peterstac | Ok, I've been trying to sort out some more of the gate issues lately, but I should be able to find some time to review those this week | 18:12 |
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| peterstac | pmalik, that last one's a spec | 18:12 |
| peterstac | we'll get to that in the next topic :) | 18:12 |
| pmalik | Aw, the code is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408236/ | 18:13 |
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| peterstac | anyone else? | 18:14 |
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| peterstac | ok, on to the next topic | 18:15 |
| peterstac | #topic Specs that are up for review | 18:15 |
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| peterstac | we have the couchbase cluster spec: | 18:16 |
| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392990/ | 18:16 |
| peterstac | anything else we'd like to have move along? | 18:16 |
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| peterstac | amrith, were you thinking of having https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391637/ land in ocata? | 18:17 |
| amrith | looking | 18:17 |
| amrith | yes | 18:17 |
| amrith | just updated the spec to refactor it | 18:17 |
| amrith | the code is about 30% done at this point | 18:17 |
| amrith | had to rework it a lot because of the way exceptions are handled. | 18:18 |
| amrith | in oslo_messaging.rpc | 18:18 |
| peterstac | ok, I'll see if I can review that this week too | 18:18 |
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| amrith | ok, will update it | 18:19 |
| amrith | thx | 18:19 |
| peterstac | (also the openstackclient would be good to move along) | 18:19 |
| trevormc | I updated it. I realized I needed to start coding it so thats what im doing now | 18:20 |
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| peterstac | Thx trevormc, I'll take another look | 18:20 |
| peterstac | Moving on ... | 18:20 |
| peterstac | #topic Ocata Release Schedule | 18:20 |
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| peterstac | We've got the spec freeze next week so we should try to get any outstanding ones reviewed asap | 18:21 |
| peterstac | Otherwise it's business as usual :) | 18:22 |
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| peterstac | Anything I'm missing, amrith? | 18:22 |
| amrith | peterstac, nothing else | 18:22 |
| amrith | I have to cut a release next week | 18:22 |
| amrith | for o-2 | 18:22 |
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| amrith | and since neutron now works (as best as it does) the fact that nova will pull n-n support is a noop for us | 18:23 |
| amrith | nothing further other than that we should get the cluster stuff working woth neutron and the CI | 18:23 |
| peterstac | yes, I've been loosing sleep trying to get that sorted out (in the gate) | 18:23 |
| peterstac | I'm hoping to get that solved in the next day or two | 18:24 |
| amrith | yes I know; also we know that neutron and trove work, there's somethign whacky with the ci infrastructure | 18:24 |
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| amrith | thx peterstac | 18:25 |
| peterstac | yeah, when we have two networks, nova doesn't seem to set up the second one properly ... | 18:25 |
| peterstac | still not sure if it's something wrong that we're doing (or not doing) ... | 18:25 |
| peterstac | anyways, we seem to be making some headway in stabilizing things, so that's good | 18:26 |
| peterstac | ok, moving on | 18:26 |
| amrith | +1 | 18:26 |
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| peterstac | #topic Open Discussion | 18:26 |
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| peterstac | anyone have anything to discuss? | 18:27 |
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| peterstac | going once ... | 18:28 |
| trevormc | I updated the hacking rule changes to only enfore use of _() instead of all the other markups | 18:28 |
| amrith | thx trevormc, no _LE, _LI etc., yes? | 18:28 |
| trevormc | for change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402780/ | 18:28 |
| trevormc | yes no _LE, _LI, or _LW | 18:28 |
| amrith | thx | 18:29 |
| peterstac | anything else? | 18:30 |
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| peterstac | I guess we get a half hour back - time enough to do 4-5 reviews each :D | 18:31 |
| peterstac | Thanks all! | 18:31 |
| amrith | thanks peterstac | 18:31 |
| trevormc | thanks | 18:31 |
| peterstac | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 18:31:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-07-18.01.html | 18:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-07-18.01.txt | 18:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-07-18.01.log.html | 18:31 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 20:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| diltram | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi there | 20:00 |
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| diltram | hey | 20:00 |
| sindhu | hi | 20:00 |
| [1]evgenyf | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | I will give it a minute for the not-so-punctual.... | 20:00 |
| kobis | hi | 20:01 |
| diltram | sure | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| ankur-gupta-f | hello | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Ocata-2 is week of December 12th | 20:01 |
| johnsom | So, next week folks. | 20:01 |
| johnsom | We have setup a merge priority review list here: | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ocata-merge-review-priority | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Please help us review patches and help us make sure it is quality | 20:02 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:02 |
| rm_work | once i get this image building issue dealt with, i'll be able to test/merge the keystone thing | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Other news, diskimage-builder made a change to one of the elements, which broke us, last friday. | 20:03 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, ^^^ that | 20:03 |
| diltram | :/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I put some quick patches out, but the DIB folks wanted to address it a different way, so it's dragging on a bit. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Thanks rm_work for working with them on that | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Two other quick items | 20:04 |
| johnsom | I have a patch up to add our channel to the infra status bot | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | I want this so we get notified when things are broken and rechecks are useless | 20:05 |
| johnsom | I also have another patch up that will make our octavia logs look a little better and have the "ERROR" etc. filters. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 20:06 |
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| johnsom | Ah, one other thing I almost forgot | 20:06 |
| johnsom | I have moved all of the neutron-lbaas bugs out of the neutron launchpad. | 20:07 |
| rm_work | is the infra bot patch linked somewhere? | 20:07 |
| johnsom | They are now in the octavia project launchpad and tagged with "lbaas" | 20:07 |
| [1]evgenyf | where are neutron-lbaas bugs now? | 20:07 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/407609 | 20:07 |
| [1]evgenyf | same second ) | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=lbaas | 20:08 |
| [1]evgenyf | johnsom: thanks | 20:08 |
| johnsom | The pretty logs patch is here: | 20:08 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/408246 | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Just for completeness grin | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | BTW, a few folks have joined that weren't on the meeting last week. The governance change to make Octavia a top level project passed the TC. This includes the governance part of the merge, thus moving the bugs | 20:10 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:11 | |
| kobis | yeah the mailing list is more timezone-friendly so I've picked that from there :) | 20:11 |
| johnsom | So, yeah, I have been busy with PTL stuff around the governance change. I have also been working on the quota patch. I plan to have that up for review today. | 20:11 |
| rm_work | cool | 20:12 |
| johnsom | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Meeting_Minutes | 20:12 |
| johnsom | kobis You can always read the exciting minutes/log too... grin | 20:12 |
| rm_work | I wonder if we could pick a time that's better for people now that most of the contributors are PST and international, we lost most of our CST folks :/ | 20:13 |
| [1]evgenyf | I read it sometimes, exciting | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I am open to that. If someone wants to find a timeslot on the OpenStack meeting channels and propose it on the mailing list, please do. | 20:13 |
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| [1]evgenyf | link# https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392485 | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Otherwise I know there has been a lot of work going on around the merge. So good stuff there. | 20:14 |
| [1]evgenyf | I would like to discuss the above patch on open discussion | 20:14 |
| [1]evgenyf | It' theh flavors RST | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Ok, sounds good. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Any other updates folks want to give? | 20:15 |
| kobis | maybe we can run an etherpad where everyone can place their TZ so figuring out a good meeting time will be easier? | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Can we do a mailing list chain? I think it would catch more folks | 20:16 |
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| kobis | we can run the etherpad via the mailing list :D | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Or, I guess an e-mail that points to the etherpad | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:16 |
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| perelman | Hi | 20:16 |
| johnsom | kobis Are you volunteering to lead that? | 20:16 |
| kobis | doable ;) | 20:17 |
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| johnsom | #action kobis to e-mail the dev list about changing the meeting time. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | #topic Requesting help with neutron-lbaas-dashboard\ | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Requesting help with neutron-lbaas-dashboard\ (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:18 | |
| johnsom | #undo | 20:18 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7f63d9a776d0> | 20:18 |
| johnsom | #topic Requesting help with neutron-lbaas-dashboard | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Requesting help with neutron-lbaas-dashboard (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:18 | |
| ankur-gupta-f | what is wrong with the lbaas dashboard? | 20:18 |
| johnsom | It has come to my attention that the dashboard is in a broken state | 20:18 |
| [1]evgenyf | it isn't completed right? | 20:18 |
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| diltram | but why? it was working | 20:19 |
| johnsom | It was released for Mitaka, but nothing in OpenStack is ever completed it seems. | 20:19 |
| diltram | and stopped working without anyone help? | 20:19 |
| kobis | the only broken thing which i'm aware of, is lack of newton release tag | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Unfortunately I think we have also lost all of the folks that were working on it. | 20:19 |
| ankur-gupta-f | are you refering to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron-lbaas-dashboard/+bug/1621403 | 20:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621403 in Neutron LBaaS Dashboard "Not showing neutron-lbaas-dashboard even after enabled" [Critical,New] | 20:19 |
| kobis | yet I've checked that a about a week ago | 20:20 |
| johnsom | Yes, I think there might be others in there too | 20:20 |
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| ankur-gupta-f | I had no problem with it off of master branch last week. Except for the fact that I think it belongs in the Admin portion of Horizon. | 20:20 |
| kobis | idk who should have created that tag | 20:21 |
| johnsom | kobis Me. I didn't do a release as I didn't see any real changes in newton and Doug wasn't sure if anyone was working on it. | 20:21 |
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| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f That is interesting, there was someone on the channel today asking about it saying it wasn't working. | 20:22 |
| kobis | johnsom: ic. so M=N from dashboard aspect? | 20:22 |
| johnsom | What I am asking for is if there are folks that can work on it, at least from a maintenance perspective? | 20:23 |
| johnsom | kobis Right. | 20:23 |
| johnsom | It could use some TLC | 20:23 |
| ankur-gupta-f | I have some experience and can take a look | 20:24 |
| ankur-gupta-f | rebuilding devstack right now with it enabled | 20:24 |
| johnsom | ankur-gupta-f Great! Appreciate it. | 20:24 |
| johnsom | I think there are also features that were never added, like L7, etc. So, if any of you have some horizon folks with cycles, neutron-lbaas-dashboard can use some help. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:26 | |
| johnsom | Ok, shall we start with evgenyf? | 20:26 |
| [1]evgenyf | Yes | 20:26 |
| johnsom | flavors | 20:26 |
| diltram | so I'm reviewing that right now | 20:26 |
| diltram | but the biggest issue for me is multi drivers support | 20:27 |
| [1]evgenyf | After your reviews on flavors RST, kobis and myself had a little brainstorm | 20:27 |
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| [1]evgenyf | and came to some simpler and better design in our opinion | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Nice | 20:27 |
| [1]evgenyf | I will make efforts to put it on review next week | 20:27 |
| johnsom | I am not stuck on flavors. It really never got implemented in neutron from what I can see | 20:28 |
| [1]evgenyf | And we also discussed an option of merging multi-provider task and flavors task | 20:28 |
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| [1]evgenyf | It may make RST clearer | 20:29 |
| kobis | johnsom: I do feel that from LB vendor perspective, flavors are more important than in general neutron context | 20:29 |
| johnsom | Hmm, ok. We will need to support backward compatibility with the "providers" currently in neutron-lbaas, at least for a deprecation cycle. | 20:30 |
| kobis | agree | 20:30 |
| [1]evgenyf | johnsom: ok | 20:30 |
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| johnsom | kobis Yeah, I get the use case. However, I also don't feel right about it becoming an excuse to not just add to the lbaas API either. | 20:31 |
| [1]evgenyf | johnsom: good poin | 20:31 |
| [1]evgenyf | point | 20:31 |
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| johnsom | Cool, looking forward to the new proposal. | 20:32 |
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| johnsom | Once we get through this merge stuff, I do hope we continue to add common features to the API. | 20:32 |
| rm_work | sorry late, but flavors will be important with what i'm working on as well | 20:33 |
| [1]evgenyf | rm_work: what is it? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Timeouts, backend re-encryption are two on the top of my mind. | 20:33 |
| rm_work | it'll be very important to be able to have the ability to deploy different backends based on flavor (haproxy-vm per Octavia currently, but also other stuff like F5s or whatever as a different flavor) | 20:33 |
| kobis | rm_work well maybe its worthwhile to share that before evgenyf updates the rst | 20:34 |
| rm_work | nothing really complex beyond the standard discussion on flavors | 20:34 |
| rm_work | basically, bronze flavor -> haproxy in VM (octavia), gold -> shared A10, platinum -> dedicated f5 | 20:34 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392485/ | 20:34 |
| rm_work | etc | 20:34 |
| diltram | but for me is interesting what is the idea about connectivity from Octavia to like F5 | 20:34 |
| rm_work | well, since octavia is just pulling in the drivers from n-lbaas as shims or whatever | 20:35 |
| diltram | rm_work: but it may be also done replacing octavia amphora driver | 20:35 |
| diltram | based on that we need to really take a look into supporting multi drivers flavors | 20:36 |
| diltram | like flavor should be able to replace amphora driver and like add nlbaas compatible driver | 20:36 |
| johnsom | The current driver model isn't going away. Certainly the vendor could opt for a amphora model, but that is optional, etc. | 20:36 |
| diltram | I know but we need to even enable transition | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | Right. This is the next topic on my list | 20:37 |
| kobis | i agree that multi-provider support is essential for octavia-as-lbaas effort | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | kobis +1 yes | 20:37 |
| johnsom | blogan started that work, but has made slow progress. | 20:38 |
| blogan | johnsom: multi-provider work? | 20:38 |
| diltram | so I'm gonna help blogan with that work | 20:38 |
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| diltram | and maybe in mean time to work on filtering | 20:38 |
| johnsom | [1]evgenyf kobis My next topic is about third party ci and ways blogan can test the driver work | 20:39 |
| diltram | witch will be aligned with api-wg | 20:39 |
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| kobis | johnsom thought that a10 was the test case for this | 20:39 |
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| kobis | anyway both radware and vmware drivers need minor (radware) or major (vmware) rework to work in octavia context | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Yes, they were, but I'm not sure that is working out. blogan are you still looking for other guinea pigs? | 20:40 |
| blogan | kobis: how much do thsoe drivers change thigns via the core plugin that cannot be done through the neutron API? | 20:40 |
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| blogan | johnsom: i'm currently trying to do the namespace driver one as a guinea pig | 20:41 |
| [1]evgenyf | blogan: for radware probably nothing | 20:41 |
| kobis | i'm guessing that for radware it's fairly easy to work via neutron api (but evgenyf should answer that really) | 20:41 |
| kobis | ^ :) | 20:42 |
| blogan | [1]evgenyf: great! | 20:42 |
| blogan | thats the one caveat that will be an issue, if its doing stuff that can't be done via the neutron API then that part of the driver cannot be done via the shim | 20:42 |
| kobis | vmware: it's a pain as vmware is the neutron plugin as well as the lbaas driver | 20:42 |
| blogan | kobis: but you're still communicating via rpc no? | 20:42 |
| kobis | both are actually nsx and resources are shared | 20:42 |
| [1]evgenyf | everything it does with neutron core could be done with octavia's neutron plugin | 20:43 |
| blogan | or maybe that was the idea i had to solve it | 20:43 |
| kobis | blogan: we do not communicate via rpc: we make direct calls to the core plugin | 20:43 |
| blogan | kobis: ok i had my memory mixed up then | 20:43 |
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| blogan | kobis: yeah so vmware's will definitely be one that will be almost impossible to do without direct intervention | 20:43 |
| blogan | from teh driver writers | 20:44 |
| blogan | you I still assume | 20:44 |
| kobis | so i'm guessing that i'll have to write a neutron extension which will be called from octavia context | 20:44 |
| blogan | kobis: you could do taht, or just communicate via rpc callbacks and such | 20:44 |
| kobis | blogan: doable too | 20:45 |
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| blogan | i feel like that would be better bc then you won't need to go through the process having it be an acceptable neturon API extension | 20:45 |
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| kobis | yup but as of now i'm not sure that the vmware neutron plugin is even using rpc for any other purpose | 20:46 |
| blogan | kobis: is it an ml2 driver? or a core plugin? | 20:46 |
| blogan | its a plugin | 20:46 |
| kobis | core plugin... | 20:46 |
| blogan | well then you wouldn't be putting it in neutron's tree anyway, and its probably not in teh stadium, so yeah as long as the users know you need that extension | 20:47 |
| kobis | i'm putting this in vmware-nsx repo. and our plugin loads it… technically its pretty simple | 20:48 |
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| kobis | thing is that even if i code this tomorrow, i can't test it in any way | 20:49 |
| kobis | right? | 20:49 |
| diltram | using that old nlbaas drivers api - no you're not able | 20:50 |
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| diltram | based no that johnsom was asking about providing gates for drivers | 20:51 |
| johnsom | I wanted to bring up the topic so we can have all of the resources we need and align the work. | 20:52 |
| blogan | we should also identify the dependencies each phase needs | 20:52 |
| kobis | diltram nlbaas runs within neutron therefore n-client isn't present | 20:52 |
| diltram | kobis: so you're calling directly neutron cli to execute some stuff? | 20:53 |
| kobis | cli? | 20:53 |
| johnsom | So it sounds to me like we need the basic shim done, then we can start on the non-haproxy drivers. Is there more detail blogan? | 20:53 |
| diltram | kobis: client | 20:54 |
| blogan | johnsom: to test it out, wouldn't a passthrough nlbaas plugin be needed OR the octavia API accepting nlbaas calls? | 20:54 |
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| johnsom | Right, octavia API will be first. | 20:54 |
| kobis | client=rest client. as of now nlbaas is running in neutron process context so it can make direct calls to the core plugin | 20:54 |
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| kobis | when this drivers run in octavia context, calls to neutron should be done via the rest client | 20:55 |
| diltram | kobis: ok, I understand | 20:56 |
| [1]evgenyf | blogan: In your work with A10 driver as an other provider in Octavia, is there multi providers loading work? | 20:56 |
| blogan | [1]evgenyf: no thats not in the scope of what i was donig, that woudl be a separate effort | 20:57 |
| blogan | but it shouldn't be terribly hard | 20:57 |
| rm_work | right now you just pick ONE? | 20:57 |
| blogan | yeah just ONE, whatever is in the config | 20:57 |
| rm_work | well, without flavors that makes sense because there'd be no way in the API to select | 20:57 |
| kobis | blogan: so we can work around missing octavia client by using nlbaas | 20:57 |
| blogan | nlbaas allows the provider attribute on the load balancer | 20:57 |
| blogan | so we'd have to accept that as wel | 20:57 |
| blogan | l | 20:57 |
| johnsom | rm_work Well neutron-lbaas has a "providers" option | 20:57 |
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| rm_work | so technically the n-lbaas client *will work* won't it? once we finish the merge | 20:57 |
| [1]evgenyf | That backward compatability to nlbaas providers format is limiting | 20:58 |
| johnsom | rm_work yes | 20:58 |
| blogan | kobis: well there needs to be a passthrough type of plugin in nlbaas for that to work | 20:58 |
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| rm_work | although i'm already getting deprecation warnings on the n-lbaas-cli so we really need to move it to OSC soon >_> | 20:58 |
| rm_work | did we talk about the structure in OSC at all yet? | 20:59 |
| johnsom | blogan yes. The API direct will be working sooner than the pass through. The API patches are starting to go up for review/WIP | 20:59 |
| rm_work | i may be off topic, i'll wait | 20:59 |
| johnsom | We are about out of time. | 20:59 |
| rm_work | though we're just about out of time | 20:59 |
| rm_work | yeah | 20:59 |
| blogan | well either way, the client is getting the neutron endpoitn from the keystone catalog and just appending /lbaas to the neutron endpoint, so the neutron-server needs to handle calls to that and redirect to the octavia endpoint | 20:59 |
| rm_work | i would like to discuss OSC stuff at some point but it doesn't have to be today | 20:59 |
| rm_work | maybe next meeting | 20:59 |
| johnsom | OSC is deferred to Pike | 20:59 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:59 |
| rm_work | k | 20:59 |
| blogan | johnsom: yes but the nlbaas client won't work otu of the box without the nlbaas pasthrough | 20:59 |
| kobis | :) | 20:59 |
| johnsom | Let's move to the lbaas channel | 21:00 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 21:00:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-07-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-07-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-07-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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