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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 03:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-01-31_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
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| Namrata | Namrata | 03:00 |
| shubhams | Shubham | 03:00 |
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| hongbin | thanks for joining the meeting Namrata shubhams | 03:01 |
| hongbin | these weeks are chinese new year, so a lot of folks are vacation right now | 03:01 |
| shubhams | hongbin: seems we 3 only. Lets wait for a minute or two for others to join . | 03:02 |
| lakerzhou | Hongbin, I am here also | 03:02 |
| hongbin | hey lakerzhou | 03:02 |
| hongbin | yes, let's wait for a minute | 03:02 |
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| diga | o/ | 03:02 |
| hongbin | diga: hi | 03:02 |
| diga | hongbin: Hi | 03:03 |
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| hongbin | ok, let's have a short meeting this week | 03:03 |
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| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:03 | |
| hongbin | 1. Welcome Kevin to the core team | 03:03 |
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| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:03 | |
| mkrai | Hi | 03:03 |
| mkrai | Sorry I am late | 03:03 |
| hongbin | 1. hongbin create a bp for exposing container cpu resource (N/A, a BP was already created) | 03:03 |
| mkrai | Welcome kevin | 03:03 |
| hongbin | mkrai: hi mkrai , thanks for joining the meeting | 03:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/cpuset-container Support pinning container to CPU cores | 03:03 |
| hongbin | 2. hongbin create a bp to add support for expose container port (DONE) | 03:04 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/expose-containerized-app | 03:04 |
| hongbin | any question about these two action items? | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | seems not. next topic | 03:05 |
| hongbin | #topic Cinder integration (diga) | 03:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (diga) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:05 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/cinder-zun-integration The BP | 03:05 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417747/ The design spec | 03:05 |
| hongbin | diga: ^^ | 03:05 |
| diga | yes | 03:05 |
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| hongbin | diga: any update from your side about hte cinder integration? | 03:05 |
| diga | hongbin: I am working on it, but last week i was busy product release so couldn't get time | 03:05 |
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| hongbin | diga: np | 03:06 |
| diga | I am starting today on it, as yesterday we shipped the release | 03:06 |
| hongbin | diga: thanks diga | 03:06 |
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| diga | hongbin: one more thing, I got official support from my company to contribute to OpenStack | 03:06 |
| hongbin | diga: good to hear | 03:06 |
| sudipto_ | o/ | 03:06 |
| diga | hongbin: I think today onward I can spend at least 2 hours | 03:07 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: hey | 03:07 |
| sudipto_ | sorry a little late today. | 03:07 |
| hongbin | diga: great | 03:07 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: np | 03:07 |
| diga | hongbin: just one question on driver | 03:07 |
| hongbin | diga: go ahead | 03:07 |
| diga | hongbin: as we are writing driver for image, storage, networking etc | 03:08 |
| diga | hongbin: can we have center driver folder & under that we can create multiple drivers | 03:08 |
| diga | ? | 03:08 |
| diga | drivers/images driver/volumes drivers/networks etc | 03:09 |
| diga | to keep the design simple | 03:09 |
| mkrai | I think that can be done | 03:09 |
| hongbin | i think nova is using this structure | 03:09 |
| diga | Yes | 03:10 |
| hongbin | images/driver volumes/driver networks/driver | 03:10 |
| lakerzhou | I started reading code. It sounds a good idea to me. | 03:10 |
| diga | okay | 03:10 |
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| diga | I think this design structure we should follow going ahead | 03:11 |
| hongbin | diga: however, i think container driver is the only important driver for us | 03:11 |
| diga | hongbin: okay | 03:11 |
| hongbin | diga: we are not writting drivers for network and volume (kuryr does) | 03:12 |
| hongbin | diga: but feel free to propose the folder change if you think it is better | 03:12 |
| diga | hongbin: okay | 03:12 |
| diga | hongbin: Sure | 03:12 |
| diga | hongbin: Thanks | 03:12 |
| hongbin | diga: any other question from you? | 03:13 |
| diga | hongbin: No, I am done! | 03:13 |
| hongbin | thanks diga | 03:13 |
| hongbin | #topic Kuryr integration (hongbin) | 03:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kuryr integration (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:13 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/kuryr-integration The BP | 03:13 |
| hongbin | i give a short update of this one | 03:13 |
| hongbin | i have wrote down the spec, and needs a few patch from kuryr side to merge | 03:13 |
| hongbin | all, feel free to comment on the spec if you like | 03:14 |
| diga | will go through the spec | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425883/ | 03:14 |
| mkrai | What patches from Kuryr side? | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426595/ | 03:15 |
| hongbin | above is the kuryr patch | 03:15 |
| mkrai | Ok got it | 03:15 |
| diga | mkrai: I think idea is same as we have proposed for volume integration, we are not going to call kuryr API | 03:15 |
| diga | hongbin: am i correct ? | 03:16 |
| hongbin | diga: i think you are | 03:16 |
| diga | yep | 03:16 |
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| hongbin | ok, advance topic | 03:17 |
| hongbin | #topic Support interactive mode (kevinz) | 03:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Support interactive mode (kevinz) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:17 | |
| hongbin | it looks kevin is on vacation | 03:17 |
| hongbin | skip this one | 03:17 |
| hongbin | #topic The image API (prameswar) | 03:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "The image API (prameswar) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:17 | |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425249/ | 03:17 |
| prameswar | hi | 03:17 |
| prameswar | Currently, we are storing image data in db. instead of db we can use storage driver for that as we discussed before. | 03:17 |
| prameswar | we can support multiple image driver | 03:18 |
| prameswar | to store image | 03:18 |
| prameswar | what you guys think ? | 03:18 |
| mkrai | prameswar: By storage driver, you mean? | 03:18 |
| prameswar | sorry image driver | 03:19 |
| prameswar | like docker store images | 03:19 |
| diga | prameswar: you mean you want to store image in object store ?? | 03:19 |
| prameswar | kind of | 03:19 |
| prameswar | i am not sure what exactly but db not seems good | 03:20 |
| prameswar | to me | 03:20 |
| mkrai | We are just storing the image info in db | 03:20 |
| mkrai | We have glance/docker to store images | 03:20 |
| prameswar | but i think docker store image info in some json format | 03:21 |
| prameswar | if i am not wrong | 03:21 |
| prameswar | it don't use database | 03:21 |
| diga | this is good thing to store in glance | 03:21 |
| mkrai | yes | 03:21 |
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| hongbin | prameswar: right now, image API has list/show/pull/search | 03:22 |
| shubhams | prameswar: Any pitfalls or disadvantages you see having info stored in db? asking as only basic info is stored in db as of now | 03:22 |
| hongbin | prameswar: if we skip the db, than all these operations are got from dockerhub/glance, is that correct? | 03:23 |
| prameswar | i think so | 03:23 |
| sudipto_ | prameswar, yes docker stores them in json blob, but why do we have to change for that? | 03:23 |
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| diga | I dont see any problem in storing image url info in db | 03:24 |
| hongbin | i think the problem right now is that the image api is not able to handle the multi-host senario | 03:24 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Yes that is a valid point | 03:24 |
| hongbin | e.g. zun image-search : it search image in one host | 03:25 |
| shubhams | hongbin: correct | 03:25 |
| hongbin | i guess this is a motivation mentioned in the review | 03:25 |
| diga | okay | 03:25 |
| hongbin | it seems prameswar 's proposal could solve the problem (although i haven't think about it carefully) | 03:26 |
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| hongbin | prameswar: i think you can propose a spec if you want to do that | 03:26 |
| prameswar | let me spend some time on this . i will collect some more info then will let you know | 03:26 |
| prameswar | yes , sure | 03:27 |
| mkrai | +1 for spec | 03:27 |
| hongbin | yes, then we can discuss on the spec | 03:27 |
| diga | I will go through the spec today | 03:27 |
| hongbin | any other comment about this topic? | 03:28 |
| hongbin | ok, next topic | 03:28 |
| hongbin | #topic Discuss BPs that are pending approval | 03:28 |
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| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-blkio Support blkio | 03:28 |
| hongbin | i didn't get a chance to study the blkio option yet | 03:29 |
| hongbin | anyone else has a comment on this one? | 03:29 |
| mkrai | It seems that it will be good to support | 03:30 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ack | 03:30 |
| sudipto_ | Doesn't have much details? | 03:30 |
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| hongbin | sudipto_: no, it doesn't | 03:30 |
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| diga | what use case we solve using this BP ? | 03:30 |
| hongbin | i am not sure exactly what was proposed.... | 03:31 |
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| diga | okay | 03:31 |
| mkrai | limit the IO operation per container | 03:31 |
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| hongbin | ok, let me ask for clarification in the bp before approving it | 03:31 |
| diga | ok | 03:31 |
| diga | we should explore more on this | 03:31 |
| hongbin | any other comment? | 03:32 |
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| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-zun-stats Support stats | 03:32 |
| sudipto_ | IMO, this is a good addition. | 03:32 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: ack | 03:33 |
| mkrai | There is patch already for this | 03:33 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: do you know the docker stats command well? | 03:33 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: what this command is going to do? | 03:33 |
| mkrai | No that is for top. Sorry | 03:33 |
| sudipto_ | hongbin, yeah sort of. This should you the top command equivalent data of sorts. | 03:33 |
| sudipto_ | but for each docker container. | 03:34 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: is the data streaming from server to client? | 03:34 |
| sudipto_ | hongbin, yes. | 03:34 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: i see | 03:34 |
| sudipto_ | it does not give you a snapshot, rather a continuous stream. | 03:35 |
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| sudipto_ | i guess that's what you asked. | 03:35 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: yes | 03:35 |
| hongbin | i am not sure how to implement it then, since it is streaming | 03:35 |
| hongbin | also, i am not sure how to handle the multi-host senario | 03:36 |
| diga | does docker expose stats API ? | 03:36 |
| hongbin | does the data streaming from multiple hosts? | 03:36 |
| mkrai | diga: Yes | 03:36 |
| diga | ok | 03:36 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: ^^ | 03:36 |
| sudipto_ | hongbin, I haven't tried this on multiple hosts. | 03:36 |
| hongbin | :) | 03:36 |
| lakerzhou | Who will consume the stats data? Apps such as ceilometer? | 03:37 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: i don't know that as well | 03:37 |
| sudipto_ | lakerzhou, i guess yes. But that way zun command line may not be needed to support it. | 03:37 |
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| diga | in that case, if docker shows stats for one docker endpoint, so in this case, we can accept docker host & for the first time, we should accept one docker host to display stats | 03:38 |
| diga | streaming from multiple hosts we can think more | 03:38 |
| mkrai | stats is per container | 03:38 |
| hongbin | diga: host should be an admin-only api (at least in nova) | 03:38 |
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| diga | hongbin: okay | 03:39 |
| sudipto_ | Maybe this is a better fit in Ceilometer? | 03:39 |
| hongbin | mkrai: i think top is per container? | 03:39 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: not sure | 03:39 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Display a live stream of container(s) resource usage statistics | 03:40 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ok | 03:40 |
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| hongbin | all, should this bp be approved/disapproved, or table it? | 03:40 |
| mkrai | Then the multiple host issue is not valid I guess | 03:41 |
| hongbin | i see | 03:41 |
| diga | hmm | 03:41 |
| mkrai | I think we need to look how do we handle the live streaming? | 03:41 |
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| mkrai | from docker daemon to zun | 03:41 |
| diga | yeah | 03:41 |
| hongbin | this would not be easy, might be something similar to what kevin was doing (interactive mode) | 03:42 |
| mkrai | Yes | 03:42 |
| diga | there are other libraries support live streaming we can use those, but it will be dependancy in zun | 03:42 |
| mkrai | We can ask the author of bp to see the feasibility of doing this in zun | 03:43 |
| hongbin | sure | 03:43 |
| diga | +1 | 03:43 |
| hongbin | then, let's table this bp | 03:43 |
| diga | yep | 03:43 |
| hongbin | until we get the answer from the author | 03:43 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:43 |
| diga | this is good addition to Zun | 03:43 |
| shubhams | hongbin: +1 | 03:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:43 | |
| hongbin | all, any other topic to discuss | 03:44 |
| diga | hongbin: are we planning for PTG ? | 03:44 |
| sudipto_ | I just posted a spec here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427007/2/specs/cpuset-container.rst (It's pretty much out of my head atm) - please take a look when you can. | 03:44 |
| hongbin | diga: no, zun won't attend the ptg | 03:44 |
| diga | hongbin: okay | 03:45 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: cool | 03:45 |
| Namrata | i have posted a patch to add zun resources https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426210/ | 03:45 |
| sudipto_ | This is an attempt to build host capabilities in zun as well. I will keep refining the spec as we go. Let me know if there' sa need for a separate BP all together for host capabilities. | 03:45 |
| hongbin | Namrata: awesome! | 03:46 |
| Namrata | thanks.it is up for review | 03:46 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: i think the host capabilities worth a separated spec, it would be a lot of work | 03:46 |
| sudipto_ | yeah i have wrote down very minimalistic things, I am guessing you'd have to help me out co-authoring some of the stuff hongbin | 03:47 |
| hongbin | sudipto_: for sure | 03:47 |
| hongbin | #action hongbin create a spec for host capability | 03:47 |
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| hongbin | i guess a lot of code will be copied from nova :) | 03:48 |
| sudipto_ | hongbin, yeah maybe, we probably wouldn't need many things as well. | 03:48 |
| hongbin | yes | 03:48 |
| hongbin | ok, any other topic? | 03:48 |
| hongbin | today, many chinese folks are not able to come due to the chinese new year | 03:49 |
| mkrai | Happy chinese new year hongbin :) | 03:49 |
| hongbin | then, let's end the meeting a bit earlier | 03:49 |
| hongbin | mkrai: thank you :) | 03:49 |
| sudipto_ | Happy new year hongbin :) | 03:49 |
| hongbin | thanks | 03:49 |
| diga | hongbin: Happy New year! | 03:50 |
| hongbin | all, thanks for joining hte meeting | 03:50 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 03:50:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-01-31-03.00.html | 03:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-01-31-03.00.txt | 03:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-01-31-03.00.log.html | 03:50 |
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| samP | hi all o/ | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:00 |
| samP | tpatil: hi.. | 04:00 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: hi.. | 04:00 |
| sagara | hi | 04:00 |
| samP | lets start | 04:00 |
| samP | sagara: hi | 04:00 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 04:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| takashi | o/ | 04:00 |
| samP | takashi: hi | 04:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 04:01 |
| samP | since no critical bugs lets move to discussion.. | 04:01 |
| samP | #topic Discussion points | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion points (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| tpatil | There is one issue reported in masakari | 04:01 |
| samP | 1st one, Who will set ha_enabled? | 04:01 |
| tpatil | #link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1659495 | 04:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659495 in masakari "taskflow version is not compatible with latest engine code" [Undecided,New] | 04:02 |
| samP | tpatil: sorry, | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Dinesh will fix this issue | 04:02 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | yes | 04:02 |
| samP | This is taskflow version issue, right? | 04:03 |
| tpatil | samP: correct | 04:03 |
| takashi | Can we just bump up required taskflow version? | 04:03 |
| tpatil | yes, that's what we will need to do to fix this issue | 04:04 |
| takashi | I'm just wondering this issue happens because the requreiemt.txt is not synced with global-requirements.txt | 04:04 |
| samP | what is the globel req version for taskflow? | 04:04 |
| takashi | our requreiemtns.txt in masakari | 04:04 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | takashi: makes sense to me, masakari requirements are not getting bumped by bot jobs | 04:05 |
| tpatil | taskflow>=2.7.0 | 04:05 |
| abhishekk | yes, but why it was not caught by jenkins? IMO we should have a test case to check fail formaters | 04:05 |
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| abhishekk | s/formaters/formatters | 04:05 |
| samP | takashi: thanks, upper is set to taskflow===2.9.0 | 04:05 |
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| takashi | fyi: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L280 | 04:05 |
| takashi | Maybe we should manually sync requirement.txt before we relase Ocata... | 04:06 |
| takashi | at least | 04:06 |
| takashi | and at workst | 04:06 |
| takashi | s/workst/worst/ | 04:06 |
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| samP | takashi: agree | 04:06 |
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| samP | after Ocata relase, we may use bot to do this. | 04:07 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP:ok | 04:08 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Please bump the taskflow version to 2.7.0 in requirements.txt and upload the patch for review | 04:08 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: yes | 04:08 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Thanks | 04:09 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: tpatil thanks | 04:09 |
| samP | #action Dinesh_Bhor Fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1659495 | 04:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659495 in masakari "taskflow version is not compatible with latest engine code" [Undecided,New] | 04:09 |
| samP | Ok then, any other bugs to discuss? | 04:10 |
| tpatil | samP: No | 04:12 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:12 |
| samP | lets move to the discussion | 04:12 |
| takashi | yes :-) | 04:12 |
| samP | 1st one, Who will set the ha_enabled tag? | 04:12 |
| abhishekk | I have added that in agenda | 04:13 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks | 04:13 |
| samP | In previous masakari, only operator set this tag to each VM | 04:13 |
| abhishekk | so how to rstrict normal user from setting this flag? | 04:14 |
| abhishekk | in glance there is a property protection which we can set using policy.json | 04:14 |
| tpatil | samP: HA_Enabled will be set as a tag or metadata? | 04:14 |
| samP | tpatil: sorry, in meta data | 04:15 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:15 |
| samP | abhishekk: I have to check, but I think we did not expose metadata API to end user. | 04:16 |
| samP | abhishekk: so, end user can not set metadata to server | 04:16 |
| abhishekk | ok, I need to check about that | 04:17 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | It can be set at the time of boot as well and normal user can do that | 04:17 |
| samP | anyway, in normal openstack env, end user can add the metadata | 04:17 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: correct | 04:18 |
| samP | I am not sure nova policy does support this kind of restrections on metadata | 04:18 |
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| samP | as abhishekk said, I remember we set simillar setting for glance | 04:19 |
| abhishekk | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/policies/server_metadata.py#L31 | 04:20 |
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| samP | abhishekk: thanks, we can controll it. | 04:21 |
| abhishekk | but IMO thiese policies are for meta api | 04:21 |
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| samP | abhishekk: seems you are right. | 04:21 |
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| abhishekk | we can set or remove metadata using meta set/delete, need to check whether this will work for boot as well | 04:22 |
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| samP | abhishekk: Do you mean, set metadata at boot? | 04:23 |
| abhishekk | while using boot command we can pass --metadat key=value | 04:23 |
| samP | abhishekk: yep.. got it | 04:24 |
| abhishekk | s/metadat/metadata | 04:24 |
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| samP | so, is this an implementation related issue or operation related issue? | 04:26 |
| abhishekk | nope as Dinesh says normal user can set this while booting the instance | 04:26 |
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| abhishekk | IMO operation related issue | 04:26 |
| tpatil | samP: since you haven't exposed metadata api for normal users, there will be no issues, but for other operators there is an issue | 04:26 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks | 04:27 |
| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:27 |
| tpatil | samP: Maybe we can add a support in Nova to restrict adding certain metadata keys to an instance using policy | 04:27 |
| samP | IMO, we cannot fix this from masakari side, need to do some work in nova | 04:28 |
| samP | tpatil: yes | 04:28 |
| takashi | tpatil: makes sense | 04:28 |
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| samP | tpatil: somwhat simillar thing we did in "license metadata" in nova.. | 04:29 |
| abhishekk | samP: in glance | 04:29 |
| samP | I think abhishekk mentionted part of it, in glance | 04:29 |
| samP | abhishekk: yes | 04:29 |
| tpatil | samP: similar to glance, we can add this support in Nova as abhishekk has pointed out | 04:30 |
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| samP | If we propose this to nova, it will be in Pike (at best) right? | 04:31 |
| tpatil | samP: correct | 04:31 |
| abhishekk | samP: yes | 04:31 |
| takashi | samP: yus. IMO I think we should propose spec as soon as nova spec repo for Pike is opened | 04:33 |
| samP | got it. what would be the best way to approach? | 04:33 |
| samP | I can discuss this in PTG. | 04:34 |
| samP | but first I think we need some pre-discussion with nova | 04:34 |
| samP | takashi: sorry, your comment came late.. | 04:35 |
| takashi | samP: np. as you say, we need some discussion in nova project | 04:35 |
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| samP | takashi: OK then, lets propse to Pike spec. | 04:36 |
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| takashi | samP: yes | 04:38 |
| tpatil | samP: I have noted down this point, we will submit a spec in Nov to address this use case. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | s/Nov/Nova | 04:38 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:38 |
| takashi | samP: maybe we can discuss our usecase with nova team, and confirm this is the best solution | 04:38 |
| takashi | tpatil: yes, thanks! | 04:38 |
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| samP | Do they set a specific date for pike spec start? | 04:39 |
| takashi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 04:39 |
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| takashi | so may TBDs... | 04:40 |
| takashi | s/may/many/ | 04:40 |
| samP | takashi: thanks, seems TBD | 04:40 |
| takashi | samP: AFAIK, nova spec freeze happens at the same time as *-1 milestone | 04:40 |
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| takashi | samP: so we should get the spec approved before Pike-1 milestone | 04:41 |
| samP | tpatil: may I assign this task to you for now? | 04:41 |
| tpatil | samP: Yes | 04:41 |
| samP | takashi: got it | 04:41 |
| samP | #action tpatil Propse Nova spec for matadata controll policy | 04:42 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:42 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks for adding this point | 04:43 |
| samP | shall we move to next topic? | 04:43 |
| abhishekk | samP: no problem | 04:43 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423072/ | 04:44 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks for the nice idea. but I have some operation related issues (pls see my comment on gerrit) | 04:44 |
| abhishekk | samP: I have seen your comments | 04:45 |
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| samP | abhishekk: Those are just my comments, but other may have different opinion on this | 04:46 |
| abhishekk | IMO it makes sense to balance the pool of reserved hosts failed node can be reassigned as a reserved host | 04:46 |
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| samP | abhishekk: Are you in favour of add reserved_host=False once we evacuate VM? or wait for other failures? | 04:51 |
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| abhishekk | samP: yes, because once we enable compute service on reserved host we cannot restrict nova to launch instance on that host | 04:52 |
| tpatil | abhishekk: We should set reserved=False immediately after all instances are evacuated from a failed compute node. | 04:52 |
| abhishekk | tushar san makes sense | 04:52 |
| samP | abhishekk: correct | 04:52 |
| samP | takashi: agree | 04:53 |
| abhishekk | I think we have 6 minutes now | 04:55 |
| samP | abhishekk: could you please update the spec whit this info? | 04:55 |
| samP | abhishekk: yes, just 5 mins left | 04:55 |
| abhishekk | saaP: yes | 04:55 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks | 04:55 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:56 |
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| abhishekk | set reserved_host to false as soon as all instances are evacuated from the failed node, right? | 04:56 |
| samP | abhishekk: correct | 04:56 |
| abhishekk | samP: ok, it's already there in the specs, I just need to rephrase it | 04:57 |
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| samP | abhishekk: yes.. sorry it is there.. my bad | 04:58 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | May I ask a question related to the new requirement to add the reserved_host to the same aggregate in which the failed_host is? | 04:58 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: sure | 04:58 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | So my question is: A failed_host can be associated with multiple aggregates, so to which aggregate the reserved_host should be added? | 04:58 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: all the aggregates of failed host | 04:59 |
| takashi | samP, Dinesh_Bhor: Can we move to #openstack-maskari? | 04:59 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: in nova, there is unique constraint applied for host, aggregate uuid, delete column | 04:59 |
| samP | sure | 04:59 |
| takashi | because we run out all meeting time... | 05:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: ok | 05:00 |
| samP | takashi: sure | 05:00 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: so this situation will never arise | 05:00 |
| samP | OK, then, lets move to openstack-masakari for further discussions.. | 05:00 |
| samP | Lets end this meeting... | 05:00 |
| samP | thank you all | 05:00 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 05:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | thanks | 05:01 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 05:01 |
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| eranrom | #start-meeting storlets | 08:00 |
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| kota_ | hello | 08:00 |
| eranrom | kota_: Hi | 08:00 |
| akihito | hello | 08:00 |
| eranrom | #startmeeting storlets | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 08:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eranrom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| eranrom | akihito: Hi | 08:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storlets' | 08:00 |
| takashi | o/ | 08:00 |
| eranrom | takashi: Hi. | 08:00 |
| eranrom | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Storlets#Agenda: | 08:01 |
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| eranrom | #topic review-priorities | 08:02 |
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| eranrom | any comments? | 08:02 |
| akihito | nothing | 08:03 |
| kota_ | can i make sure current stats on review-priorities | 08:03 |
| kota_ | ? | 08:03 |
| eranrom | kota_: sure@ | 08:03 |
| eranrom | sure! | 08:03 |
| kota_ | are we.... using that etherpad? | 08:04 |
| kota_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storlets-review-priorities | 08:04 |
| eranrom | Well, that is the suggestion. | 08:04 |
| kota_ | sorry, not remember in detail, how it works | 08:04 |
| eranrom | It was only put up yesterday - I think | 08:04 |
| kota_ | probably because of my flu | 08:04 |
| kota_ | ok | 08:04 |
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| eranrom | It started off with me asking Takashi to list his own patchers priorities | 08:05 |
| eranrom | so he created this pad, and I added my patches there | 08:05 |
| eranrom | and now I suggest that we use this, so that each author will prioritize his own patches | 08:05 |
| kota_ | er, ok | 08:06 |
| sagara | hi | 08:06 |
| eranrom | so we know as reviewers what to look at first. | 08:06 |
| kota_ | makse sense | 08:06 |
| kota_ | sagara: hi | 08:06 |
| eranrom | sagara: Hi. agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Storlets#Agenda: | 08:06 |
| eranrom | kota_: So you are more then welcome to add your stuff :-) | 08:06 |
| sagara | eranrom: thanks | 08:06 |
| kota_ | done | 08:07 |
| kota_ | to add | 08:07 |
| eranrom | We can always decide to use something else in the future | 08:07 |
| eranrom | kota_: Great! thanks! | 08:07 |
| takashi | kota_: :-) | 08:07 |
| takashi | as we don't have so much time before Ocata release, we should be careful what we can/should land in this cycle | 08:08 |
| kota_ | takashi: good point | 08:08 |
| kota_ | the release should be... | 08:08 |
| takashi | and I think that listing can help us, because we can find items with high priorities. | 08:08 |
| kota_ | the week since 13th Feb? | 08:08 |
| eranrom | takashi: right, perhaps this is another subject to discuss. Let me add it to the agenda | 08:09 |
| eranrom | kota_: I need to check it... | 08:09 |
| takashi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 08:09 |
| takashi | eranrom, kota_: ^^^^^ fyi | 08:09 |
| takashi | but we can talk about this later | 08:09 |
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| eranrom | takashi: yep! thanks! | 08:10 |
| eranrom | next topic? | 08:10 |
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| kota_ | kk | 08:11 |
| akihito | yes | 08:11 |
| takashi | ok | 08:11 |
| eranrom | #topic What should land for Ocata? | 08:11 |
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| eranrom | :-) | 08:11 |
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| eranrom | Here is a suggestion: | 08:12 |
| eranrom | 1. functional tests | 08:12 |
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| eranrom | 2. Some of the refactoring work - need to choose. | 08:13 |
| eranrom | 3. IPython integration | 08:13 |
| eranrom | thoughts? | 08:13 |
| takashi | eranrom: Do you plan to have rc in this week? | 08:14 |
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| takashi | eranrom: or should we? | 08:14 |
| takashi | I think that depends on schedule to release rc | 08:14 |
| eranrom | takashi: only of you think its important | 08:15 |
| takashi | As we are currently a part of official project, so I suppose it is automatically cut off by current release manager | 08:16 |
| eranrom | since we do not have any dependencies on our repo (e.g. devstack gateway jobs) I am not sure its important | 08:16 |
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| eranrom | takashi: In that case not sure it matters, but I may be missing something | 08:16 |
| takashi | eranrom: For me it is not so important, but I'm a little concerned a basic rule in OpenStack project | 08:16 |
| takashi | as we are now officially a part of it | 08:17 |
| eranrom | takashi: ok, I will look into it. | 08:17 |
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| takashi | For me, it looks better if we can land all func tests work, as we can confirm current behavior by testing | 08:18 |
| eranrom | takashi: +1 | 08:18 |
| kota_ | +1, tests is always great | 08:18 |
| takashi | as we find some bugs by adding functional tests, like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426586/ | 08:18 |
| eranrom | right | 08:19 |
| eranrom | Anything beyond the tests? | 08:19 |
| takashi | talking about my refactoring work around storlet agents, it is not so critical change because they are just improvoments | 08:19 |
| takashi | it is still better, but it is not urgent, I think | 08:20 |
| eranrom | takashi: ok. | 08:20 |
| takashi | I'll keep working about that, but in some point we need to take a dicision or selection | 08:21 |
| takashi | I think | 08:21 |
| takashi | and about IPython integration, is there anything remaining? I'm afraid I'm missing some patches. | 08:21 |
| eranrom | takashi: There is one patch I did not put yet in the e-pad. | 08:22 |
| eranrom | It adds the ability to invoke on get | 08:22 |
| eranrom | Let me add it | 08:22 |
| takashi | eranrom: this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416089/ | 08:22 |
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| eranrom | yes | 08:23 |
| kota_ | eranrom: you're doing great pach | 08:23 |
| kota_ | i'd prefer to review it | 08:23 |
| eranrom | kota_: Thanks! | 08:23 |
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| kota_ | but not yet, sorry :/ | 08:23 |
| eranrom | np | 08:23 |
| kota_ | just walk through drafting | 08:23 |
| eranrom | I take it that you have a backlog | 08:23 |
| kota_ | thx | 08:23 |
| takashi | I'll review it, too | 08:24 |
| kota_ | AFAIK, it had merge conflicts right? | 08:24 |
| kota_ | ah, and you already rebased | 08:24 |
| kota_ | that's what I know right now | 08:24 |
| kota_ | about the patch | 08:24 |
| kota_ | and also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422511/ (i added as high priority) | 08:25 |
| kota_ | is preparing ipython work | 08:25 |
| kota_ | for sort of dry-run | 08:25 |
| eranrom | kota_: sure. | 08:26 |
| kota_ | but imo, it won't happen Ocata timeframe so... in pike? | 08:26 |
| eranrom | kota_: yep. | 08:26 |
| eranrom | I also added the IPython work but as a low priority :-) | 08:27 |
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| eranrom | Lets keep high what we want to put in Ocata. | 08:27 |
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| eranrom | I will move the tests to high | 08:27 |
| eranrom | make sense? | 08:27 |
| takashi | yes | 08:27 |
| kota_ | sounds nice | 08:28 |
| eranrom | :-) | 08:28 |
| eranrom | it was good? why did you delete? | 08:29 |
| eranrom | good. | 08:29 |
| eranrom | :-) thanks | 08:29 |
| takashi | reverting | 08:29 |
| takashi | sorry | 08:29 |
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| eranrom | takashi: Thanks@ | 08:30 |
| eranrom | Thanks! | 08:30 |
| takashi | just added one bug fix: Fixing tenant container id problems | 08:30 |
| eranrom | ataraday: yep saw this, thanks! | 08:30 |
| takashi | I'll recheck all my patches, and update the list if needed | 08:31 |
| takashi | my patches and existing patches | 08:31 |
| eranrom | ok great! | 08:31 |
| eranrom | takashi: thanks! | 08:31 |
| takashi | but currently we can review patches according to it | 08:31 |
| eranrom | ok, anythong else on review priorities towards Ocata? | 08:32 |
| takashi | nothing else from me | 08:32 |
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| kota_ | current list looks great | 08:33 |
| eranrom | ok, that was good thanks! | 08:33 |
| eranrom | topic: func tests refactoring thoughts | 08:33 |
| eranrom | #topic func tests refactoring thoughts | 08:33 |
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| eranrom | These are just suggestions... | 08:34 |
| eranrom | or thoughts | 08:34 |
| takashi | Let me reply to each of your comments. | 08:35 |
| takashi | for 1, about temp container usage, I don't know whether we should use temporally container | 08:37 |
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| takashi | What we would like to care by temporal resource usage is to avoid collisions between multiple test cases | 08:38 |
| takashi | especially paralell test execution, which is currently realized by testr | 08:38 |
| takashi | (though we are using it in only one thread, currently) | 08:38 |
| takashi | s/especially/in especially/ | 08:39 |
| eranrom | takashi: agree. I guess another question is whether we care about the func test leaving stuff behind... | 08:39 |
| takashi | eranrom: Ideally, we should use resources which has unique name, and clean up all things created in test cases | 08:39 |
| takashi | s/has unique name/have unique names/ | 08:40 |
| eranrom | takashi: Agree! It does not have to be done with temp containers. | 08:40 |
| takashi | In my func test refactoring, I added some cleaning up about objects created in test cases: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420419/41/tests/functional/__init__.py@44 | 08:41 |
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| eranrom | takashi: yep. seen that :-) | 08:42 |
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| takashi | I think it can work if we use temporal container for test cases, but it is not so urgently requied, because collision between containers used in some test cases does not cause so big impart now | 08:42 |
| eranrom | takashi: agree. | 08:42 |
| takashi | s/impart/impact/g | 08:42 |
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| takashi | So first step is to use temporal object, and the second step is to clean up all resources created in test execution, I think | 08:43 |
| takashi | Does it make sense? | 08:43 |
| kota_ | !? | 08:43 |
| openstack | kota_: Error: "?" is not a valid command. | 08:43 |
| eranrom | takashi: absolutely | 08:43 |
| takashi | kota_: Do you find any problems? | 08:44 |
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| kota_ | i just was seeing the code a bit | 08:45 |
| kota_ | but .... | 08:45 |
| kota_ | i couldn't get why we need *re-implement* methods swift client does | 08:45 |
| kota_ | it blankets what progress there | 08:46 |
| kota_ | almost casess | 08:46 |
| kota_ | and... | 08:47 |
| takashi | kota_: but The reason why I'm *re-implementing* them is that I don't get why we need to get self.url and self.token and pass it to client either | 08:47 |
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| kota_ | takashi: why not using swiftclient.Client instance? | 08:50 |
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| kota_ | makking Client instance in setUp, set self.swift_client = Client(brah blah) | 08:50 |
| kota_ | done | 08:50 |
| kota_ | and at least, it's not a TestClass but sort of Client class IMHO. | 08:52 |
| takashi | kota_: it is still in WIP, so I still need some re-desgin about cleasses | 08:53 |
| takashi | and yeah using Client instance makes sense to me. thanks! | 08:53 |
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| eranrom | We are running out of time and I wanted to spend few minutes on the PTG. | 08:53 |
| kota_ | ah, it's WIP | 08:53 |
| eranrom | perhaps we should discuss more during the PTG itself :-) | 08:54 |
| kota_ | just was jumping by the url pasted above :P | 08:54 |
| kota_ | ;-) | 08:54 |
| takashi | kota_: yes | 08:54 |
| takashi | shortly for 2. yes. it is ideal goal to have same test cases (which inherits same base class which implements common test cases) | 08:54 |
| takashi | but still in WIP :-) | 08:54 |
| eranrom | takashi: sure! | 08:55 |
| eranrom | ok, PTG. | 08:55 |
| kota_ | takashi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422470/ | 08:55 |
| kota_ | takashi: maybe we're going same way | 08:55 |
| takashi | eranrom: ok | 08:55 |
| kota_ | eranrom: sorry, go ahead | 08:55 |
| takashi | kota_: I think so | 08:55 |
| eranrom | Thanks! dorry for the interruption | 08:56 |
| eranrom | #topic PTG | 08:56 |
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| eranrom | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storlets-pike-design-summit | 08:56 |
| eranrom | I think it would be good to define goals for Pike | 08:56 |
| eranrom | I added two of mine, please add more, and we can discuss durng the PTG | 08:57 |
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| takashi | eranrom: ok | 08:57 |
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| eranrom | Otherwise, feel free to add more topics for discussion. | 08:57 |
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| kota_ | eranrom: ok | 08:58 |
| eranrom | anything else for the last 2 mins? | 08:58 |
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| kota_ | that's all, great discussion | 08:59 |
| eranrom | all thanks very much for joining! | 08:59 |
| kota_ | thanks eranrom! | 08:59 |
| eranrom | talk to you later | 08:59 |
| eranrom | #endmeeting | 08:59 |
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| saggi | Sorry for being a bit late | 09:17 |
| saggi | Is anyone here? | 09:17 |
| saggi | Happy new year everyone | 09:19 |
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| jlibosva | Let's get the party started | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 14:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| john-davidge | \o/ | 14:00 |
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| jlibosva | Hello friends! | 14:00 |
| dasanind | o/ | 14:00 |
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| korzen | hi | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:00 |
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| bcafarel | howdy | 14:00 |
| ajo | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jlibosva | We got some release related announcements | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | We're now in the release candidate phase this week | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111074.html | 14:01 |
| amotoki | o/ | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | Which means | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | We can't merge more features - unless it's been granted with feature freeze exception (FFE) | 14:01 |
| dalvarez | o/ | 14:01 |
| haleyb_ | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111083.html | 14:01 |
| hichihara | o/ | 14:02 |
| ajo | makes sense | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | We'll talk more about Ocata in other topic | 14:02 |
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| jlibosva | next version will be Pike and in order to make it awesome, as you know, there will be a project gathering in middle Feb | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110040.html | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | We already have some topics but still feel free to add more items to the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike | 14:03 |
| ajo | \m/ | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | I'm looking forward to see you there :) | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | Last week was the week of PTL candidacy nomination | 14:03 |
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| jlibosva | We have two briliant candidates :) | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | The elections are supposed to be this week | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | Don't forget to use your ballot, you should get an email once elections are started | 14:04 |
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| jlibosva | Anybody has anything else to announce? | 14:04 |
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| jlibosva | let's move on then | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:04 |
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| jlibosva | As already advertised, we're in release candidate phase so we should be focusing on bugfixes scheduled to this milestone | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-rc1 | 14:05 |
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| jlibosva | As usual, blueprints that didn't make it to Ocata can be proposed/deferred to Pike. | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: korzen do you want OVO topic? | 14:05 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: nah, I think it's better to skip since we are in freeze | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | ack | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | #topic Bugs and gate failures | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs and gate failures (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:06 | |
| jlibosva | We had two major gate breakages in functional job last week | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | Both are solved by now | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | but we'd like to get a better visibility of failures in gate | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111214.html | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | Please read the above and please keep in mind to look at failures before issuing recheck on your patches | 14:07 |
| ihrachys | oh have we solved ovs native one? | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: no, that was not considered major by me :) | 14:07 |
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| ihrachys | haha | 14:07 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: the functional is now about 10% in check queue | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | if it would stay it like this, it would be awesome | 14:07 |
| haleyb_ | there is a privsep fix working its way through that will help in gate as well | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | haleyb_: do you have a link? | 14:08 |
| ajo | hmm | 14:08 |
| haleyb_ | bug 1660305 | 14:08 |
| openstack | bug 1660305 in neutron "DVR multinode job fails over 20 tests" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1660305 - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 14:08 |
| ajo | this reminds me (about ovs native) that I left this half way done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425623/ | 14:08 |
| ajo | I wonder if it's of any use, or if it's actually going to affect anything after latest discussions. | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | haleyb_: thanks, I see it's already approved | 14:09 |
| haleyb_ | although maybe that job isn't voting, but the privsep failures are random | 14:09 |
| anilvenkata | jlibosva, ajo ihrachys haleyb As you know, for DVR+HA gate job, this patch is needed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383827/ | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | ajo: I saw iwamoto updated the bug with some interesting findings | 14:10 |
| * ajo reads | 14:10 | |
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| anilvenkata | jlibosva, ajo haleyb but it is not getting devstack-gate core reviewers attentions | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | anilvenkata: yeah, we would need to go to openstack-infra and poke people there | 14:11 |
| anilvenkata | jlibosva, I am regularly pinging clarkb and sdague | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | anilvenkata: thanks | 14:11 |
| anilvenkata | for its review | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | we also have some failures in other tempest jobs, one of the most critical I have seen are libvirt crashes | 14:12 |
| ihrachys | ajo: it seems worth exploring. one thing would be first to check if we see the same failures now that a patch from kevinbenton landed that could influence things | 14:12 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: which patch? | 14:12 |
| ajo | which patch? | 14:12 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426032/ | 14:13 |
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| ihrachys | "It's not clear that this was a cause of the bug though, so | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | this fix is only related." | 14:13 |
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| jlibosva | hm, merged very recently .I was wondering whether it can be the cause that functional failure rate is "so low" :) | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | we'll see. | 14:15 |
| ajo | hmmm :) | 14:15 |
| ajo | kevinbenton++ | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | I also wanted to leave these two bugs related to mentioned libvirt crashes | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1638982 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1643911 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638982 in OpenStack-Gate "libvirtd randomly crashes on xenial nodes with "realloc(): invalid next size"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643911 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt randomly crashes on xenial nodes with "*** Error in `/usr/sbin/libvirtd': malloc(): memory corruption:"" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | just in case you get hit by those in your patches | 14:15 |
| ajo | ouch | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | ajo: you were a bug deputy last week, right? | 14:16 |
| ajo | somebody is smashing the heap :) | 14:16 |
| ajo | jlibosva affirmative | 14:16 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: do you want to highlight some bugs? | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | how was the week? | 14:17 |
| ihrachys | not sure what we can do with libvirtd. :( crying aloud? | 14:17 |
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| ajo | let me check if there is something missing beyond what you said. | 14:17 |
| ajo | ihrachys may be get the ubuntu guys update it, or move to centos :P | 14:17 |
| ajo | jlibosva: The memory / OOM issues, | 14:17 |
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| ajo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1656386 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656386 in neutron "Memory leaks on Neutron jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Darek Smigiel (smigiel-dariusz) | 14:17 |
| ajo | but not sure there's anything we could do about that | 14:18 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: I noticed that the compute one is "Medium" importance so I cried there for bump | 14:18 |
| ajo | kevinbenton increased swapiness, but still OOM is invoked while there's only 700k of 7G of swap used | 14:18 |
| korzen | I could use more reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273546 Add support for Keepalived VRRP health check to get this merged in Ocata | 14:18 |
| ajo | there was another one related to linuxbridge conntrack clearing, 1 sec | 14:19 |
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| ajo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657260 | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657260 in neutron "Established connection don't stops when rule is removed" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:19 |
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| haleyb_ | that was approved but failing gate | 14:19 |
| ajo | it's WIP by slawek, in iptables non-hybrid firewall driver the zones aren't used, but we try to clear the entries -in a zone- so it fails | 14:19 |
| jlibosva | korzen: thanks, it's scheduled to rc1 so hopefully it will get proper attention | 14:20 |
| haleyb_ | i thikn it was approved | 14:20 |
| haleyb_ | yup | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | hmmm :( | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | I see that linuxbridge tempest job is about 35% failure rate | 14:21 |
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| jlibosva | anybody has any other bug that deserves attention? | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | or bugfix | 14:23 |
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| korzen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420693 | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | korzen: thanks | 14:23 |
| korzen | haleyb_, can you +W on ^ ? | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | haleyb_: yep, I set the bug to rc1, so I think we're good to go | 14:24 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, and it's test only change | 14:24 |
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| ajo | jlibosva where did you see linuxbridge jobs on 35% failure rate? | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: sorry, I was looking at multinode-nv | 14:25 |
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| ajo | ahh | 14:25 |
| ajo | :) | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | the voting is at 13%, sorry :) | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | ajo: thanks for fixing me :) | 14:25 |
| ajo | jlibosva np, I was looking for the specific failures, and I found a much lower rate, so I thought I was looking at the wrong place actually | 14:26 |
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| jlibosva | ajo: I feel like the linuxbridge job is failing only on the patches that I'm looking at. I see it failing almost the whole time, so I wasn't surprised by 35% | 14:26 |
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| ajo | :) | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | if there are no other bugs or patches, I'd like to get to getting a new deputy for this week | 14:27 |
| ajo | you were biased | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | I would like to take the next week, if there are no objections :) | 14:27 |
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| ihrachys | I don't think anyone would object... | 14:28 |
| ajo | come'on I offer a beer @ atlanta :P :) | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | but we still need a hero for this week | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | beer for this week bug deputy in atlanta from ajo. how could anyone say no to this? | 14:29 |
| hichihara | The beer is mine! | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | hichihara is the winner! | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | thanks! | 14:29 |
| hichihara | :) | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | I'll update the wiki after meeting :) | 14:29 |
| ajo | hichihara you got it!! :D thanks :) Spanish or american beer? ;-) | 14:29 |
| hichihara | American beer please :) | 14:30 |
| ajo | consider it done :D | 14:30 |
| jlibosva | #action ajo to buy hichihara an american beer in atlanta | 14:30 |
| hichihara | lol | 14:31 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:31 |
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| jlibosva | john-davidge: hello! | 14:31 |
| ajo | %) | 14:31 |
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| john-davidge | jlibosva: Hello! | 14:31 |
| jlibosva | john-davidge: do you have any updates wrt docs | 14:31 |
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| john-davidge | jlibosva: Nothing specific from me on docs this week. I've been discussing some possible to changes to how we deal with the DocImpact tag with the new Docs PTL, but we don't have anything to share just yet. | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | john-davidge: ok, thanks :) | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | so maybe we can move to the next topic | 14:33 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Transition to OSC | 14:33 |
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| jlibosva | amotoki: hi :) do you want to update us? | 14:33 |
| amotoki | I checked the current status of OSC transition. 95 of 126 are completed. | 14:33 |
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| john-davidge | amotoki: Great progress! | 14:34 |
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| amotoki | As far as I checked, the biggest remaining one is FIP associate/disassociate. | 14:34 |
| amotoki | this is the progress chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ueCvIKUfpUaLFm_3YTT4MkuTV-PYIdeErnt7Wleshl0/edit#gid=0 | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | w00t | 14:34 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 14:35 |
| amotoki | I think we can ship neutron CLI with deprecation notice (as we see now) | 14:35 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: great news! thanks | 14:35 |
| amotoki | other than FIP (dis)associate, most commands are admin-specific or less used like flavor. | 14:35 |
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| reedip_ | for the FIP , I think we have reached a conclusion | 14:36 |
| amotoki | thanks all for folks working on OSC transition! | 14:36 |
| reedip_ | but minor adjustments need to be done | 14:36 |
| amotoki | reedip_: yeah, I saw it | 14:36 |
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| amotoki | but I am not sure OSC team has a plan for a new release in Ocata time span. | 14:36 |
| amotoki | reedip_: do you have any? | 14:37 |
| reedip_ | None as of now that I know amotoki | 14:38 |
| reedip_ | OSC has almost been finished for Ocata | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: reedip_ thanks for updates and good news :) | 14:38 |
| reedip_ | :) | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | can we move the next topic? | 14:39 |
| amotoki | sure | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | oki | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | #topic Neutron-lib and planned neutron refactoring | 14:39 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi, do you want to say a few things about neutron-lib? | 14:39 |
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| jlibosva | maybe that means "no" :) | 14:40 |
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| jlibosva | we have two things added to the on demand agenda but I feel like we've already had the "Disable security group filter refresh on DHCP port changes" one | 14:41 |
| jlibosva | and I also don't see mdorman online | 14:41 |
| boden | jlibosva sorry I stepped away | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | boden: I'm now not sure if you stepped away from keyboard or neutron-lib :) | 14:43 |
| boden | things are pretty idle on the neutron-lib front at least in terms of landing patches. I think this is mainly beause we cut stable 1.1.0 for Ocata and folks are focusing on getting neutron out the door | 14:43 |
| boden | so not much to say really. There are some “lib impact” patches, but IMO they are obviously not candidates for ocata so we can talk about them later | 14:44 |
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| jlibosva | boden: ok, thank you for updates :) | 14:45 |
| jlibosva | can we move on? | 14:45 |
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| boden | jlibosva yes thanks | 14:45 |
| jlibosva | good | 14:45 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Logging API for security groups | 14:45 |
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| jlibosva | rossella_s: you added this topic, right? | 14:46 |
| rossella_s | jlibosva, nope | 14:46 |
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| jlibosva | rossella_s: hmm, there is your name written on the meeting wiki page :) | 14:46 |
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| rossella_s | jlibosva, that's probably from last week, annp wanted to talk about it | 14:47 |
| jlibosva | rossella_s: aha, I checked last meeting logs and didn't see the topic there | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | and I don't see annp around | 14:48 |
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| jlibosva | so maybe we can defer the discussion | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | anybody has anything else to bring up? | 14:48 |
| rossella_s | he's sleeping I guess, anyway since we are discussing it, it would be good to get more eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/ | 14:49 |
| rossella_s | and see how to move that forward | 14:49 |
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| jlibosva | I saw the spec got some discussions lately on the gerrit | 14:50 |
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| jlibosva | rossella_s: do you think starting a ML thread would help to proceed? | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | or gerrit is sufficient? | 14:51 |
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| ihrachys | gerrit should be fine, it get enough eyes it seems? | 14:52 |
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| jlibosva | maybe more people from control plane core team could have a look too. It seems armax and yamamoto are the active ones there | 14:54 |
| jlibosva | oh, I also see hichihara :) | 14:54 |
| hichihara | yes :) I'm active on the spec. | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | we have 5 minutes. anybody has some topic to discuss? | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | or we could spend those 5 minutes by telling non-political jokes :) | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | or we can end earlier | 14:55 |
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| hichihara | I have a small topic. I'm working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413662/ | 14:55 |
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| hichihara | ihrachys amotoki: What do you think about it? | 14:56 |
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| hichihara | ihrachys amotoki: Should I skip it on Pike and discuss more? | 14:56 |
| jlibosva | the bug is scheduled to mitaka rc1, I think we missed the deadline there :) | 14:56 |
| ihrachys | it still doesn't give a discoverable way (api level) to learn if tags for those resources are supported. | 14:56 |
| ihrachys | hichihara: the change itself should not be huge, but we need the empty extension | 14:57 |
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| amotoki | the topic is about API discoverability on how we can add more resources supported by tag API. | 14:57 |
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| amotoki | according to the current convention, we need to add some shim extension. | 14:57 |
| hichihara | I understand | 14:57 |
| hichihara | So that's extensions/tag-ext? | 14:58 |
| ihrachys | yea | 14:58 |
| amotoki | i understand 'tag-xxx', 'tag-xxx2' .... are ugly convention, but tag-ext sounds reasonable now | 14:58 |
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| hichihara | Iihrachys amotoki: 'm OK. I'll do. Thanks | 14:59 |
| jlibosva | hichihara: thanks :) | 14:59 |
| jlibosva | thanks everyone for showing up :) | 14:59 |
| ihrachys | and we have CI meeting in 1h! | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 15:00:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-31-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-31-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-31-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| davidsha | Hi | 15:01 |
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| ajo | hi :) | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 15:02 |
| davidsha | QoS is here right? | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 15:02 |
| ajo | right | 15:02 |
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| slaweq_ | hello | 15:02 |
| ajo | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:02 |
| davidsha | hi | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 15:02:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ajo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| ajo | Hello :) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:02 |
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| ajo | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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| njohnston | :q | 15:02 |
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| ajo | Qos driver is finally in shape and refactor merged | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | great!!! | 15:02 |
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| slaweq_ | \o/ | 15:03 |
| davidsha | hi njohnston | 15:03 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/ | 15:03 |
| ajo | sorry for being sooooo slow :/ | 15:03 |
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| ajo | We shall ping the relevant people on midokura (yamamoto), ovn (russelb), | 15:03 |
| ajo | nsx (garyk) to see if they need any help migrating to the new | 15:03 |
| ajo | model, the old notification_driver support will be removed in Pike | 15:03 |
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| ajo | #action ajo ping all qos-driver implementers to update their drivers in pike, change shall be easy, | 15:03 |
| ajo | Now slaweq_ is working on the 2nd thing: Enhanced validation | 15:04 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426946/ | 15:04 |
| ajo | for Pike | 15:04 |
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| slaweq_ | I will do my best to finish it asap | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | I'll review this patch tomorrow and I'll follow it | 15:05 |
| ajo | The structural changes made him reboot his original patch | 15:05 |
| ajo | But I hope the new interface will help | 15:05 |
| slaweq_ | now it should be easier than it was before Your refactor | 15:05 |
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| ajo | yes, before it was becoming a bit too complicated, let's see how it will look now | 15:05 |
| slaweq_ | as I was looking into it yesterday it should be easier but we will see :) | 15:06 |
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| ajo | My colleagues always fear me when I say it will be easy, it never is :) right dalvarez ? :P | 15:06 |
| slaweq_ | I know, that's why I wrote "it should be" :P | 15:07 |
| ajo | so... I have another point for documentation | 15:07 |
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| ajo | 'XD | 15:07 |
| ajo | #topic Documentation | 15:07 |
| ajo | Networking guide needs to be updated about minimum egress bandwidth | 15:07 |
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| ajo | support. | 15:07 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1618769 | 15:07 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1618762 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618769 in openstack-manuals " SR-IOV: add agent QoS driver to support egress minimum bandwidth" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 15:07 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618762 in openstack-manuals " Add QoS minimum bandwidth rule for instance egress traffic" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 15:07 |
| ajo | I planned to work on that | 15:07 |
| ajo | it shall be easy | 15:07 |
| ajo | but we must have it ready for the release, this was on Newton I think, but we forgot ':D | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | I can take one of this | 15:08 |
| dalvarez | ajo, lol im scared now | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | one of these | 15:08 |
| ajo | X) dalvarez | 15:08 |
| ajo | ralonsoh it's the same one I think, not sure if we need to do anything special for SR-IOV | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | No, nothing special | 15:09 |
| ajo | one was generated for the "api changes" and the other one for docimpact on the SR-IOV | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | ahhh I see | 15:09 |
| ajo | so one commit shall close it all, may by I can write, and I can ping you for reviews ralonsoh ? | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 15:09 |
| ajo | may by->may be | 15:09 |
| ajo | :) | 15:09 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 15:09 |
| ajo | hi reedip_ I've got a point for you later ;) | 15:10 |
| reedip_ | :D ok ajo | 15:10 |
| ajo | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
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| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649503 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649503 in neutron "Mechanism driver can't be notified with updated network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 15:10 |
| ajo | We need kevinbenton's help on this one | 15:10 |
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| ajo | it's related to some recent change, now when you detach a policy from a network, that's not notified properly | 15:10 |
| ajo | this looks like a high priority bug (in the context of QoS) | 15:11 |
| slaweq_ | but it's waiting for action for quite long time now | 15:11 |
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| slaweq_ | maybe You can ask kevinbenton to look on it? :) | 15:11 |
| ajo | yes, I will, | 15:12 |
| ajo | I started by adding him to the bug | 15:12 |
| ajo | I will ping him personally | 15:12 |
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| ajo | #action ajo ping kevinbenton about bug 1649503 | 15:12 |
| openstack | bug 1649503 in neutron "Mechanism driver can't be notified with updated network" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1649503 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 15:12 |
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| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627749 better error handling | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627749 in neutron "qos driver api can have better error handling" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 15:13 |
| ajo | there was some work around that on the qos driver refactor, but not sure if enough | 15:13 |
| * ajo looks for the link | 15:13 | |
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| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/29/neutron/services/qos/drivers/manager.py@69 | 15:14 |
| ajo | may be this is not enough to close that bug | 15:14 |
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| ajo | shall we probably, let all drivers be called, and then raise the exception after rpc push happens ? | 15:14 |
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| ajo | thoughts? | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | I don't think so | 15:15 |
| ajo | we don't have yamamoto here | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | I prefer the way is now implemented | 15:15 |
| ajo | ralonsoh the problem with current implementation, is that if one driver fails, the others aren't called at all | 15:15 |
| ajo | may be some are called, some are not | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | I know | 15:15 |
| ajo | depending on the order | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | but no driver should fail | 15:16 |
| ajo | it's very undeterministic | 15:16 |
| ajo | that is true | 15:16 |
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| ajo | if a driver fails it's it's responsibility to retry later, and resync... | 15:16 |
| ajo | but | 15:16 |
| ajo | a bad implementation of one, should not affect the others, or the rpc | 15:16 |
| ajo | it's not bad if we are more robust in the face of external errors | 15:16 |
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| ajo | unless we find a good reason why that would be problematic | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | ok, that's a new patch! | 15:17 |
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| ajo | (code being more complex can be a good reason against it, but I believe it shouldn't be very complicated *warning on perceived complexity O:)* ) | 15:17 |
| ajo | ralonsoh I will try to put a new patch for this, see how it looks, code goes weird I'm ok to drop it | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 15:18 |
| * ajo looks at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=qos | 15:19 | |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657381 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657381 in neutron "QoS drivers need to implement a precommit for the actions" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 15:19 |
| ajo | This one, after a thought, is not very clear to me that it's necessary | 15:19 |
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| ajo | since in the end, drivers are not supposed to fail on any policy modification | 15:19 |
| ajo | may be what's bad for them is good for other drivers | 15:20 |
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| ajo | and that will be handled by the enhanced validation | 15:20 |
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| ajo | bad for them = "the specific driver can't handle it" | 15:20 |
| ajo | so, the fact that ODL for example writes to a log, and then sends the log, is implementation detail, they can do that in the one existing call | 15:21 |
| ajo | and if they fail, it's their responsibility, again, to retry to sync it later | 15:21 |
| ajo | ralonsoh thoughts? | 15:21 |
| ajo | I wish I had an ODL'r here :D | 15:21 |
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| ralonsoh | the point is why they need those calls? | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | they don't implement any action for them | 15:22 |
| ajo | ralonsoh exactly, and, even if they need them, if we're not goint to allow exceptions happening to stop the db transactions I see no benefit | 15:22 |
| slaweq_ | I think that maybe we should make it working with any plugin, not only ML2 which not uses such precommit | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | buy I'll review ODL code | 15:22 |
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| slaweq_ | so maybe it's worth to do it if some plugins needs it | 15:22 |
| ajo | slaweq_ if there's good justification, right | 15:23 |
| ajo | but they still failed to justify the need | 15:23 |
| ajo | or may be they did, but I didn't got it | 15:23 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Luis Tomas Bolivar (ltomasbo) | 15:24 |
| ajo | ltomasbo ^ | 15:24 |
| ajo | any advance on this? did you look at russellb comments here https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186/comments/11 ? | 15:24 |
| ajo | I'm pinging him | 15:25 |
| ajo | ralonsoh russellb says they use queues, and they steer the traffic using OF rules | 15:25 |
| ltomasbo | hi ajo | 15:25 |
| ajo | hi ltomasbo :) | 15:25 |
| ltomasbo | no, I did not take any further action on that | 15:25 |
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| ajo | ralonsoh : so may be that will be doable when we have min bw and queues in OVS. ? | 15:26 |
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| ajo | ltomasbo may be I should detach you from the bug for now for just in case anyone else wants to step up for it? | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | but we still don't have min in OVS | 15:26 |
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| ltomasbo | ajo: sure! please do | 15:27 |
| ajo | ralonsoh correct, but, it would be similar to what you did in LB, and then we could get rid of this bug with trunk ports | 15:27 |
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| ralonsoh | ajo: I tried to do this, but we don't have the IFB like in Linux Bridge | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: I tried to figure out how to implement this, without any luck... | 15:28 |
| ajo | ralonsoh yes, we'd need to rely on queues, etc... all the thing we talked about, *not easy* | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 15:28 |
| ajo | let's revisit it on pike and try to get it going. Will you be around on the PTG? | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | yes, we can talk about his in the PTG | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | s/his/this | 15:29 |
| ajo | ralonsoh we also have the one related to router GW ports | 15:30 |
| ajo | I can't find it now | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425218/ | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | this one? | 15:30 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425218/ | 15:31 |
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| ajo | oh, I must review it again | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | yes, I know. kevinbenton told us to implement it | 15:31 |
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| ralonsoh | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425280/ | 15:32 |
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| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425280/ | 15:32 |
| ajo | please folks review those two ^ | 15:33 |
| ajo | thanks ralonsoh !! | 15:33 |
| ajo | any bug I'm missing? | 15:33 |
| ajo | 3, | 15:34 |
| ajo | 2, | 15:34 |
| ajo | 1, | 15:34 |
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| ajo | #topic RFEs | 15:34 |
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| ajo | So, after the validation, for pike, we have in pipeline: | 15:34 |
| ajo | * instance ingress bw limiting, | 15:34 |
| slaweq_ | yes, it waits for improved validation :) | 15:35 |
| ajo | * strict minimum bw (integration with nova placement api) | 15:35 |
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| ajo | I believe bits are in place for those two | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | cool! | 15:35 |
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| ajo | we can think of VLAN 802.1p if somebody is willing to take it, it shall be easy | 15:36 |
| reedip_ | ajo : link ? | 15:36 |
| ralonsoh | do you mean ECN? | 15:37 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560961. instance-ingress | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:37 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 strict minimum bw | 15:37 |
| reedip_ | neverming, got it : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505631 in neutron "[RFE] QoS VLAN 802.1p Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kannan Raman (kannanrc20) | 15:37 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 | 15:37 |
| davidsha | ralonsoh: There is another for mapping dscp to v-lan pcp | 15:37 |
| ajo | yes, we need to talk about that one | 15:37 |
| ajo | but I wanted to talk about reedip's ECN proposal again | 15:38 |
| ajo | he updated the etherpad and I couldn't look at it until today | 15:38 |
| ajo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/QoS_ECN | 15:38 |
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| ajo | reedip_ : most details make sense, but we can't control the VM internal settings | 15:38 |
| reedip_ | ajo : hmm, okay | 15:39 |
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| ajo | reedip_ it will be OS dependant, etc... and it's no business of neutron or nova to tweak anything inside the VMs | 15:39 |
| ajo | we can provide documentation, or heat templates for that | 15:39 |
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| ajo | in linux I believe it's on by default | 15:39 |
| ajo | may be I'm wrong | 15:39 |
| reedip_ | ajo : in linux. no , ECN has to be enabled | 15:39 |
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| ajo | aha, so we may want to provide documentation to let people do that | 15:40 |
| reedip_ | I think yes, we can provide heat templates for that / documentation if required | 15:40 |
| ajo | I thought It was on by default | 15:40 |
| ajo | so | 15:40 |
| ajo | the proposal, has an API that is a bit out of how we handle everything else in QoS plugin now | 15:40 |
| ajo | It'd be great if we can find a way to fit it in the current model | 15:40 |
| reedip_ | ajo : yes, I saw that comment, would try to integrate it , but need to look more into it . | 15:41 |
| ajo | may be, if the change to routers is not invasive, | 15:41 |
| ajo | (or changes performance) | 15:41 |
| ajo | we could just implement that in the l3 agent | 15:41 |
| ajo | and have it enabled by default | 15:41 |
| davidsha | So if the ECN bit is set and its not enabled, the packet isn't echo'ed with the receive bit set right?? | 15:41 |
| ajo | I believe that what reedip_ proposes is that our routers will set the flag on the outgoing packet, that then will be echoed by the receiving machine back to the sender | 15:42 |
| reedip_ | davidsha : you mean if one router has detected COngestion, but one of the End points ( a VM for example ) doesnt have ECN enabled, then YES, the ACK packet back to the sender wont have the ECN receievd bit set | 15:42 |
| ajo | VM1 sends packet | 15:43 |
| ajo | packet crosses router (congested one) | 15:43 |
| davidsha | reedip_: ack, thanks! | 15:43 |
| ajo | router sets flag on packet | 15:43 |
| ajo | packet arrives VM2 | 15:43 |
| ajo | VM2 sends the echo bit on next TCP frame to sender | 15:43 |
| ajo | so | 15:43 |
| ajo | missing details for this proposal are: | 15:43 |
| ajo | 1) how to do it in the neutron routers | 15:43 |
| ajo | 2) ways to fit this on the current model | 15:44 |
| ajo | for 2, may be we don't even need it, but if we need conditional enablement of ECN on the routers, we could, for example: | 15:44 |
| ajo | let admins set policies with an ECN rule in the external and internal networks of the router | 15:44 |
| ajo | and when at least one internal network, and the external network provide ECN, we ECN-enable the router | 15:44 |
| reedip_ | ajo : ack | 15:45 |
| ajo | this would require integration of QoS in l3, but now l3 has a framework to add extensions, it should be doable | 15:45 |
| ajo | thanks njohnston !! ;) | 15:45 |
| * njohnston bows | 15:45 | |
| reedip_ | thanks njohnston :D | 15:45 |
| ajo | reedip_ I don't know about 1, if you show me a viable POC of how to do it in the low level (qrouter), then we can formalize this RFE properly | 15:46 |
| reedip_ | ajo : yep, this is an Action Item for me before the next meeting | 15:46 |
| ajo | #action reedip ECN RFE refinement :) | 15:46 |
| ajo | davidsha did you want to talk about the DSCP/VLAN mapping ? | 15:47 |
| ajo | may be we should cover first the basic VLAN rules | 15:47 |
| ajo | I asked the submitter for more details and never answered | 15:47 |
| reedip_ | ajo : meanwhile , I think I can voluteer on the 802.1p if its available | 15:47 |
| davidsha | ajo: kk, it wan't my rfe I'd just read it previously ;) | 15:47 |
| davidsha | wasn't* | 15:48 |
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| ajo | reedip_ https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 It seems like you could revive it in Pike, it's postponed | 15:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505631 in neutron "[RFE] QoS VLAN 802.1p Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kannan Raman (kannanrc20) | 15:49 |
| ajo | which means, it was approved, but we were waiting on other stuff, or we had no hands :) | 15:49 |
| davidsha | Just for clarity on this going forward, this would mean we'd have the dscp marking rule, a pcp marking rule and a "traffic class" marking rule correct? | 15:49 |
| reedip_ | Yes, I will take it up ajo for Pike | 15:50 |
| ajo | davidsha what was pcp? %) | 15:50 |
| davidsha | ajo: the vlan version of dscp it stands for Priority Code Point | 15:51 |
| ajo | ahh, | 15:51 |
| ajo | that would be then 2 ? | 15:51 |
| ajo | 1) DSCP | 15:51 |
| ajo | 2) VLAN | 15:51 |
| davidsha | There was another RFE for mapping over DSCP and PCP if I recall | 15:52 |
| davidsha | so Pcp is a 0-7 values and dscp is mapped to 0-7 traffic classes. | 15:52 |
| ajo | davidsha, let's look at that when we have vlan, but ye | 15:53 |
| ajo | at that point, DSCP marking rules would be incompatible with mapping rules | 15:53 |
| ajo | or am I getting it wrong? | 15:53 |
| ajo | do you mean | 15:53 |
| ajo | mapping the DSCP flags when going over vlan? or what ? | 15:54 |
| ajo | that RFE we mentioned before? | 15:54 |
| davidsha | ajo: kk, I'm not sure who proposed it but I recall reading the RFE. | 15:54 |
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| ajo | davidsha link, or bring it to next meeting :) | 15:55 |
| davidsha | ajo: It was a while since I read it so I'm not entirely sure. | 15:55 |
| ajo | anyway, unless of it being of special interest to you, or anyone willing to code it, I suspect we have enough in our plate for Pike already :) | 15:55 |
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| davidsha | ack | 15:55 |
| ajo | we have the openflow pipeline in the queue too, which could be cool to fix for Pike too :) | 15:56 |
| ralonsoh | one more: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639220 | 15:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639220 in neutron "[RFE] Default action for RBAC" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:56 |
| ralonsoh | this one is very short | 15:56 |
| ajo | oh right | 15:56 |
| davidsha | +1 | 15:56 |
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| ralonsoh | just waiting your reply | 15:56 |
| * ajo reads | 15:57 | |
| ajo | yes, having an api to set a per-tenant default could make sense | 15:58 |
| ajo | a lot of sense actually | 15:58 |
| ajo | I'm trying to add tags, but it ignores me | 15:58 |
| ajo | ralonsoh can you add #qos and #rfe tags? | 15:58 |
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| ajo | ralonsoh we would need that triaged by the drivers meeting | 15:59 |
| ajo | but, makes sense to me, I'm going to comment | 15:59 |
| ajo | and close the meeting, we have 30 secs | 15:59 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: done | 15:59 |
| ajo | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 15:59:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| davidsha | Thanks | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-01-31-15.02.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-01-31-15.02.txt | 15:59 |
| ajo | thank you folks :) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-01-31-15.02.log.html | 16:00 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 16:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
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| ihrachys | hello everyone, assuming there is anyone :) | 16:01 |
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| jlibosva | o/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | armax: kevinbenton: jlibosva: ding ding | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: looks more like it's you and me :) | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | :_ | 16:02 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: what is the agenda? | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | well I was going to present the initiative and go through the etherpad that we already have, listing patches up for review and such. | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | and maybe later brain storming on current issues | 16:03 |
| jlibosva | ok, I looked at the etherpad and put some comments to the ovs failure | 16:03 |
| jlibosva | yesterday | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | if it's just me and you, it may not make much sense | 16:04 |
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| jlibosva | at least we would have a meeting minutes | 16:04 |
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| jlibosva | if we come up with any action items | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | right. ok. so, this is the first CI team meeting, that spurred by latest issues in gate | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | there was a discussion before on the issues that was captured in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-upstream-ci | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | we will use the etherpad to capture new details on gate problems in the future | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | there were several things to follow up on, so let's walk through the list | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | 1. checking all things around elastic-recheck, whether queries can target check queue and such. I am still to follow up on that with e-r cores, but it looks like they accepted a query targeting functional tests yesterday, so we hopefully should be able to classify func test failures. | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | 2. "banning rechecks without bug number" again, I am to check with infra on that point | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | 3. armax added func tests periodic job to grafana: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426308/ | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | sadly, I don't see it showing up in periodic dashboard, see http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=4&fullscreen | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | I see 3 trend lines while there are supposed to be 5 of those as per dashboard definition | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | this will need a revisit I guess | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | was there a run already? | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | the patch was landed 32 hours ago, and it's supposed to trigger daily (?) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | I guess we can give it some time and see if it heals itself | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | but the fact that another job in the dashboard does not show up too is suspicious | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | oh, sorry :D I thought it's still 30th Jan today | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | #action armax to make sure periodic functional test job shows up in grafana | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to follow up on elastic-recheck with e-r cores | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to follow up with infra on forbidding bare gerrit rechecks | 16:11 |
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| ihrachys | there is an action item on adding a CI deputy role, but I believe it's not critical and should be decided on by the next ptl | 16:11 |
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| jlibosva | agreed | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | also, I was going to map all late functional test failures, I did (the report is line 21+ in the pad) | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | the short story is though there are different tests failing, most of them turn out to be the same ovs native failure | 16:12 |
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| ihrachys | seems like bug 1627106 is our sole enemy right now in terms of func tests | 16:13 |
| openstack | bug 1627106 in neutron "TimeoutException while executing test_post_commit_vswitchd_completed_no_failures" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627106 - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton landed a related patch for the bug: https://review.openstack.org/426032 We will need to track some more to see if that fixes anything | 16:14 |
| armax | ihrachys: I think it’s because it might not have a failure yet | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | armax: wouldn't we see 0% failure rate? | 16:14 |
| armax | ihrachys: it’s getting built here: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-neutron-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/ | 16:14 |
| armax | ihrachys: strangely I see that postgres is missing too | 16:14 |
| armax | but I have yet to find the time to bug infra about seeing what is actually happening | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | right | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | aye, sure | 16:15 |
| armax | but two builds so far | 16:15 |
| armax | no errorr | 16:15 |
| armax | errors | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | back to ovsdb native, ajo also has a patch bumping ovs timeout: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425623/ though afaiu otherwiseguy has reservations about the direction | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | there are some interesting findings from this morning by iwamoto | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | he claims the whole system freezes | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | as dstat doesn't give any outputs by the time probe times out | 16:16 |
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| jlibosva | it's supposed to update every second | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | vm progress locked by hypervisor? | 16:17 |
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| jlibosva | could be the reason why noone is able to reproduce it locally | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | but do we see 10sec hangs? | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | or shorter? | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | let's have a look | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | btw speaking of timeouts, another class of functional test failures that I saw in late runs could be described as 'random tests failing with test case timeout', even those not touching ovs, like test_migration | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | but per test case timeout is a lot longer than ovsdb 10secs | 16:20 |
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| otherwiseguy | interesting. | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | I see 5sec lock in dstat output that Iwamoto linked to | 16:21 |
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| ihrachys | interestingly, we see functional job at ~10% failure rate at the moment, which is a drastic reduce from what we saw even on Friday | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | not sure what could be the reason | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | we don't have dstat in functional job, so it's hard to say if we see same hypervisor locks | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | the logs that Iwamoto linked to are for neutron-full | 16:27 |
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| ihrachys | I will check if we can easily collect those in scope of functional tests | 16:27 |
| jlibosva | interesting is that it didn't cause any harm in those tests | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys check if we can enable dstat logs for functional job | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | otherwiseguy: so what's your take on bumping timeout for test env? | 16:29 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, i wouldn't hurt, but I have no idea if it would help. | 16:30 |
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| ihrachys | ok I guess it's worth a try then. though the latest reduce in failure rate may relax the severity of the issue and also make it harder to spot if it's the fix that helps. | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | otherwiseguy: apart from that, any other ideas how we could help debug or fix the situation from ovs library side? | 16:31 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: During xenial switch, I noticed ovs 2.6 is more prone to reproduce the issue | 16:32 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, right now I'm writing some scripts that spawn multiple processes and just create and delete a bunch of bridges. adding occasionally restarting the ovsdb-server, etc. | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | so maybe having a patch that disables ovs compilation for functional and leave the one that's packaged for ubuntu could improve the repro rate | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: ovs python library 2.6, or openvswitch service 2.6? | 16:33 |
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| otherwiseguy | just trying to reproduce. | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: service | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | the ovsdb server itself probably | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: improve rate as in 'raise' or as in 'lower'? | 16:34 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: raise :) so we can test patches or add more debug message etc | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | just to understand, xenial is 2.5 or 2.6? | 16:34 |
| jlibosva | IIRC it should be 2.6 | 16:34 |
| jlibosva | let me check | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | oh and we compile 2.6.1? | 16:34 |
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| jlibosva | maybe it's vice-versa. 2.5 is worse and we compile 2.6.1 | 16:36 |
| jlibosva | yeah, so xenial contains packages 2.5 but we compile to 2.6.1 on xenial nodes | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | ok, I guess it should not be hard to spin up the patch and see how it fails | 16:37 |
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| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to spin up a test-only patch to disable ovs compilation to improve reproduce rate | 16:37 |
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| jlibosva | done :) | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | link | 16:38 |
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| jlibosva | ... some network issues with sending :-/ | 16:39 |
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| ihrachys | nevermind, let's move on | 16:39 |
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| jlibosva | sure | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | I mentioned several tests failing with test case timeouts before | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | when they do, they fail with AttributeError on __str__ call for WaitTimeout | 16:40 |
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| ihrachys | there is a patch by tmorin to fix the error: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425924/2 | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | while it won't fix the timeout root cause, it's still worth attention | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | yeah, gate is giving the patch hard times | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | closing the topic of func tests, I see jlibosva added https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1659965 to the etherpad | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659965 in neutron "test_get_root_helper_child_pid_returns_first_child gate failure" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: is it some high impact failure? | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: no, I don't think so | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | or you just have the patch in place that would benefit from review attention | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | I added it there as it's a legitimate functional failure. It's kinda new so I don't know how burning that is | 16:43 |
| jlibosva | the cause is pstree segfaulting | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | ok, still seems like something to look at, thanks for pointing out | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | that's it for functional tests. as for other jobs, we had oom-killers that we hoped to be fixed by the swappiness tweak: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425961/ | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | ajo mentioned though we still see the problem happening in gate. | 16:45 |
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| jlibosva | :[ | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, I see that mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1656386 comments | 16:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656386 in neutron "Memory leaks on Neutron jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Darek Smigiel (smigiel-dariusz) | 16:47 |
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| ihrachys | armax: I see the strawman patch proposing putting mysql on a diet was abandoned. was there any discussion before that? | 16:48 |
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| armax | ihrachys: not that I am aware | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | :-o | 16:48 |
| armax | ihrachys: we should check the openstack-qa channel | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | I don't see anything relevant there, probably worth talking to Monty | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | as for libvirtd malloc crashes, it's also not fixed, and I don't think we can help it | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | we also have a new issue with linuxbridge job: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1660612 | 16:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660612 in neutron "gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-linuxbridge-ubuntu-xenial times out on execution" [Undecided,New] | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | the global timeout kills the test run as it runs more than an hour | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | and how long does it generally take? | 16:52 |
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| jlibosva | I don't think we have an equivalent with ovs so it's hard to compare | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | in another job, I see 40m for all tests | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | could be a slowdown, hard to say. I guess we have a single data point? | 16:53 |
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| jlibosva | with successful linuxbridge job, the whole job takes around an hour | 16:54 |
| jlibosva | so it's around 43mins in successful linuxbridge job | 16:54 |
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| ihrachys | weird, ok let's monitor and see if it shows more impact | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | one final thing I want to touch base on before closing the meeting is gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario-ubuntu-xenial-nv | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | 100% failure rate | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: do you know what happens there (seems like legit connectivity issues in some tests)? | 16:56 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: no, I haven't investigated it | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | the trend seems to be 100% for almost a week | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | I think it passed a while ago; we need to understand what broke and fix it, and have a plan to make it voting. | 16:56 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: yeah, I'm working on this one. SSH fails there but we don't collect console logs | 16:56 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: it might be related to ubuntu image as they update it on their site | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: oh don't we? how come? isn't it controlled by generic devstack infra code? | 16:57 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: no, it's a tempest code | 16:57 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: and we have our own Neutron in-tree code | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva: don't we freeze a specific past version of the image? | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | which doesn't have this capability | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: that's the problem, they have 'current' dir and they don't store those with timestamps | 16:58 |
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| jlibosva | they store like maybe 4 latest but they get wiped eventually | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | hm, then maybe we should store it somewhere ourselves? | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | anyway, even when I fetch the same as in gate, the job passes on my environment | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | classic | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to explore what broke scenario job | 16:59 |
| jlibosva | that would be best, then we would need someone to maintain the storage | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva: well if it's one time update per cycle, it's not like huge deal | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok thanks jlibosva for joining, I would feel lonely without you :) | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | I hope next time we will have better presence | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | if not maybe we will need to consider other time | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks again | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 17:00:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-01-31-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-01-31-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-01-31-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | thanks :) | 17:00 |
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| stevemar | ping agrebennikov, amakarov, annakoppad, antwash, ayoung, bknudson, breton, browne, chrisplo, crinkle, davechen, dolphm, dstanek, edmondsw, edtubill, gagehugo, gyee, henrynash, hrybacki, jamielennox, jaugustine, jgrassler, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, kbaikov, ktychkova, morgan, nishaYadav, nkinder, notmorgan, raildo, ravelar, rderose, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, shaleh, spilla, srwilkers, StefanPaetowJisc, | 18:00 |
| stevemar | stevemar, topol, portdirect, SamYaple | 18:00 |
| crinkle | o/ | 18:00 |
| samueldmq | o/ | 18:00 |
| samueldmq | hi | 18:00 |
| ayoung | Oyez | 18:00 |
| morgan | but... but | 18:00 |
| morgan | i was asleep | 18:00 |
| jaugustine | o/ | 18:00 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:00 |
| antwash | o/ | 18:00 |
| morgan | why.... | 18:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 18:00 |
| stevemar | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 18:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevemar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:00 |
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| rodrigods | o/ | 18:00 |
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| rderose | o/ | 18:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:01 |
| morgan | wow, there is a bknudson here! | 18:01 |
| morgan | :) | 18:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
| morgan | a rare sighting in the wilds of IRC! :) | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | a bknudson! | 18:02 |
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| stevemar | #topic announcements | 18:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| stevemar | we're in the RC week, RC must be tagged by thursday, don't expect anything to merge unless it's a priority for the release | 18:03 |
| stevemar | oops, agenda link! | 18:03 |
| stevemar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:03 |
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| stevemar | priorities for RC are listed here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-sprint-to-ocata | 18:03 |
| stevemar | #link #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-sprint-to-ocata | 18:03 |
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| stevemar | we approved per-user-auth (MFA) for RC | 18:04 |
| stevemar | see bp here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/per-user-auth-plugin-reqs | 18:04 |
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| stevemar | thanks morgan for working so hard on it | 18:05 |
| stevemar | its coming along really nicely | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:05 |
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| morgan | also a bug in some logs found in the process https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427004/ | 18:05 |
| morgan | needs a second +2/A | 18:06 |
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| morgan | but it is not directly related | 18:06 |
| stevemar | yeah, easy one to review ^ | 18:06 |
| morgan | release note was just pushed for MFA | 18:06 |
| morgan | please look for it. | 18:06 |
| morgan | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427328/ | 18:06 |
| stevemar | ack | 18:06 |
| stevemar | yowza, thats a heck of a release note | 18:07 |
| morgan | more in depth docs will come post RC likely, pending stevemar's resource option docs | 18:07 |
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| stevemar | morgan: may have to trim it, just so it doesn't differ too much from the other notes | 18:07 |
| morgan | current rendered version: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/427328/2/check/gate-keystone-releasenotes/ad8ed97//releasenotes/build/html/unreleased.html | 18:07 |
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| stevemar | i like the detail though, but i prefer consistency, if that makes sense. | 18:07 |
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| morgan | stevemar: but... it's an accurate release note | 18:07 |
| * morgan will leave that trimming to stevemar | 18:08 | |
| morgan | ;) | 18:08 |
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| stevemar | :) | 18:08 |
| stevemar | any questions about RC? we have some identified bugs but that's the next topic, have some more announcements | 18:08 |
| ayoung | +2A | 18:09 |
| stevemar | next announcement | 18:09 |
| stevemar | gyee is stepping down from core | 18:09 |
| stevemar | due to inactivity and a change in responsibility i asked him to step down | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | Not a huge surprise. | 18:09 |
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| stevemar | yeah, i wanted to give the next PTL a clean slate to start from | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | thanks gyee for your service! | 18:10 |
| * dolphm salutes gyee | 18:10 | |
| rodrigods | thanks gyee :) | 18:10 |
| * morgan cheers for gyee and thanks him for his service | 18:10 | |
| morgan | though... he's not here to hear it atm | 18:10 |
| stevemar | the ether knows | 18:10 |
| morgan | s/ether/etherpad | 18:11 |
| morgan | *shiftyeyes* | 18:11 |
| stevemar | you can email him at his personal address if you want, PM me if you want it | 18:11 |
| stevemar | he responds quickly there | 18:11 |
| morgan | yeah he typically does. | 18:11 |
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| stevemar | not sure if hes going to write a note to the ML | 18:11 |
| morgan | stevemar: make sure you announce the Core change to the ML sometime | 18:11 |
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| morgan | if he doesn't write a note. | 18:12 |
| stevemar | will do | 18:12 |
| henrynash | (sorry I’m late) | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | henrynash o/ | 18:12 |
| stevemar | henrynash: heyo! | 18:12 |
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| morgan | we have a henrynash too! wow. | 18:12 |
| ayoung | W00t! | 18:12 |
| henrynash | henrynash too! is so much better than the old one | 18:12 |
| morgan | it is a redletter day | 18:12 |
| stevemar | all the rascally ibm'ers are showing up | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | gettin' the band back together | 18:12 |
| morgan | stevemar: i don't see topol | 18:13 |
| henrynash | (dog eat my homework etc.) | 18:13 |
| morgan | stevemar: :P | 18:13 |
| stevemar | morgan: zing | 18:13 |
| stevemar | last announcement | 18:13 |
| samueldmq | thanks gyee! | 18:13 |
| stevemar | 19 PTG tickets left | 18:13 |
| morgan | stevemar: or jamielennox | 18:13 |
| stevemar | i think they started with 200? | 18:13 |
| * morgan needs to book an airplane | 18:13 | |
| stevemar | thats a huge drop from 2 weeks ago, i think they have >100 left | 18:13 |
| ayoung | I have one, too, that I am not going to use | 18:13 |
| ayoung | Was going to go to my backup, but backup is not going | 18:14 |
| ayoung | Think the deadline for transfer is soonish. Let me know if you need it. | 18:14 |
| * stevemar is pretty sure there are hourly flights going from toronto to atlanta, will book later | 18:14 | |
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| stevemar | i'm sure the 19 will end up being bough | 18:15 |
| stevemar | bought | 18:15 |
| topol | o/ | 18:15 |
| stevemar | perhaps more slowly | 18:15 |
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| topol | I will be in ATL Sunday night | 18:15 |
| * morgan will be flying in on Monday night | 18:15 | |
| lbragstad | I'll be there Wednesday morning | 18:15 |
| henrynash | Tues night | 18:16 |
| morgan | so i'll be missing day 1 | 18:16 |
| henrynash | (see, we all synced that so well) | 18:16 |
| knikolla | Tuesday night | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | and staying until late Friday | 18:16 |
| * breton will be from Sunday to Saturday | 18:16 | |
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| morgan | and i am either saying until friday mid-day or early sat | 18:16 |
| morgan | likely leaving midday friday | 18:16 |
| gagehugo | schedued for sun-sat | 18:16 |
| * topol topol had to come late to this meeting. Still distraught over morgan's incredibly ugly bagels... still shaking :-) | 18:16 | |
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| morgan | topol: it's ok, i gave you a giant release note to review. | 18:17 |
| stevemar | i'm there sunday to saturday too | 18:17 |
| morgan | topol: because you were late | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | stevemar i assume organization of everything will start soon? | 18:17 |
| topol | thanks | 18:17 |
| samueldmq | I'll be there Sunday night too, in the case someone wants to hang out for food or something | 18:17 |
| dstanek | i'm finally here! | 18:18 |
| stevemar | lbragstad: yeah, as soon as we cut RC1 we can start planning | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | stevemar ok - cool | 18:18 |
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| stevemar | 3 weeks is plenty of time to plan it all out :P | 18:18 |
| stevemar | okay, next topic | 18:20 |
| * topol who will join me for a tearful reunion with my Ga Tech Ph.D. advisors? Havent seen them in 18 years... | 18:20 | |
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| stevemar | topol: you're on your own there bud | 18:20 |
| topol | :-) | 18:20 |
| stevemar | #topic bugs we can fix during RC | 18:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs we can fix during RC (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:20 | |
| stevemar | i plan on cutting RC1 when morgan's MFA stuff merges | 18:21 |
| stevemar | but we can cut RC2 if we deem some bugs are worth backporting | 18:21 |
| stevemar | i think these two qualify | 18:21 |
| stevemar | Federation: federated users can't log into Horizon - https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/1660436 | 18:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660436 in python-novaclient "Federated users cannot log into horizon" [Undecided,New] | 18:21 |
| stevemar | Federation: cannot use Trusts with federaed users - https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1589993 | 18:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589993 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "cannot use trusts with federated users" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Boris Bobrov (bbobrov) | 18:21 |
| breton | i can talk about the trusts issue | 18:22 |
| stevemar | crinkle is working on the first, and breton is working on the second, are either of you around? | 18:22 |
| breton | I was actually working on that bug downstream for some time. | 18:22 |
| crinkle | o/ | 18:22 |
| stevemar | breton, you first, crinkle afterwards? | 18:22 |
| breton | stevemar: ok | 18:22 |
| breton | The problem with the whole thing is that with federated users we cannot really know what the user can unless they have authenticated | 18:22 |
| stevemar | can.. do? | 18:23 |
| breton | because, for example, with trusts, at the moment of trust creation the user might have already lost his group, that provided a role, because something has changed in the IDP, and we don't know about it | 18:23 |
| breton | can do, yes | 18:23 |
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| rderose | breton: you can use shadow mapping to create users | 18:23 |
| breton | for us, downstream, the solution now is to recreate user group membership for federated users each time the user authenticates. We just know that the customer will not add shadow users to groups directly and can live with the possible gap between group removal and next authentication | 18:24 |
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| dstanek | rderose: that won't help with groups necessarily | 18:24 |
| stevemar | breton: can you assign the role necessary to the user directly? | 18:24 |
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| breton | stevemar: no. There can be very many users. | 18:24 |
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| stevemar | ah dang | 18:25 |
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| henrynash | breton: so is the issue that A trusts B, A never logs in again (and meanwhile as lost their group in teh idp), meanwhile B can carry on usingthe trust for ever? | 18:25 |
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| dstanek | breton: that's how federated mapping works by design right? re-evaluate group membership for each auth | 18:25 |
| breton | henrynash: and that sucks | 18:25 |
| dstanek | henrynash: ah, that makes sense | 18:26 |
| ayoung | if the trust is no longer valid due to a group memebership change, they cannot use it | 18:26 |
| dstanek | so you have to evaluate A's group membership for each B use of a trust? | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | so the problem is that trusts don't have the opportunity to stay in sync with whatever is in the idp? | 18:26 |
| breton | dstanek: kinda. But that group membership never persists inside the database | 18:26 |
| henrynash | breton: and we can’t tell from our side that the group has been lost unless A choices to reauthenticate | 18:26 |
| dstanek | ayoung: the group membership can be ephemeral | 18:26 |
| stevemar | henrynash: which may not happen | 18:26 |
| ayoung | dstanek, then the trust will never work | 18:26 |
| henrynash | stevemar: yep | 18:26 |
| dstanek | breton: exactly. but you can evaluate it anyway right? | 18:26 |
| breton | dstanek: no | 18:27 |
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| morgan | i think the answer here is simple: with shadow users allow explicit group additions | 18:27 |
| ayoung | if the trust code cannot link the original user to the roles in the trust, they trust execution fails, no token | 18:27 |
| dstanek | if you know the user and the idp of the trustor can't you lookup the mapping? | 18:27 |
| morgan | to the shadow user | 18:27 |
| breton | dstanek: groups might come from assertion | 18:27 |
| morgan | it is only allowed in that case | 18:27 |
| morgan | not the "assertion" groups | 18:27 |
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| dstanek | breton: ah, right. good call | 18:27 |
| morgan | i can't get behind supporting trusts on the values that come from an assertion | 18:27 |
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| lbragstad | you'd need the assertion, wouldn't you? | 18:27 |
| ayoung | we need to record all membership information used in a trust | 18:27 |
| morgan | ayoung: ++ | 18:27 |
| morgan | ayoung: therefore the shadow user, if added to a group, could explicitly be granted the values | 18:28 |
| morgan | it's "known" | 18:28 |
| henrynash | morgan, ayoung: but how would the group memberhsip info ever be deleted | 18:28 |
| dstanek | ok, so no trusts based on federated ephemeral group membership? | 18:28 |
| morgan | henrynash: you'd purge the shadow user | 18:28 |
| dstanek | morgan: that won't work | 18:28 |
| henrynash | morgan: agreed | 18:28 |
| morgan | dstanek: yeah, i'd -2 adding trusts based on ephemeral group membership | 18:28 |
| breton | morgan: i dislike it, because it requires operators manage users manually, not in the idp | 18:28 |
| dstanek | if a change in the IdP puts them in a different group then they'd get different ephemeral groups | 18:29 |
| breton | and we have code that relies on it -- heat uses it for delayed operations | 18:29 |
| henrynash | morgan: but an idp (or whoever is creating users in the idp) would have to know to do that | 18:29 |
| morgan | dstanek: right, this is why we only support in the case of explicit group additions in keystone | 18:29 |
| dstanek | if you put that in keystone then any change in the idp would need a change in keystone | 18:29 |
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| breton | we could try fixing heat to use allow_expired though. | 18:29 |
| morgan | aka shadow users. | 18:29 |
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| stevemar | breton: that might be the better call here | 18:29 |
| morgan | or the local user w/ mapped values | 18:29 |
| breton | morgan: how do we differentiate between explicit and implicit groups? | 18:29 |
| breton | morgan: a column in the db? | 18:29 |
| morgan | operator assigned in the db | 18:30 |
| morgan | it is loaded from the db. vs loaded from the assertion | 18:30 |
| morgan | we have the ability to allow a local user to auth with federated creds, we have shadow users now | 18:30 |
| morgan | if you grant an explicit membership in either case, that carries forward | 18:30 |
| morgan | regardless of assertion | 18:30 |
| morgan | that is an explicit assignment | 18:30 |
| morgan | implicit from the IDP can never have trusts | 18:31 |
| breton | that was the whole point of federation -- to manage users not in openstack, but outside of it | 18:31 |
| morgan | because of the issues you've outlined | 18:31 |
| breton | that is a step back to moving users around in keystone | 18:31 |
| morgan | the IDP provides authentication | 18:31 |
| morgan | the IDP never, ever, ever has provided authorization in keystone | 18:31 |
| morgan | keystone has done that | 18:31 |
| morgan | trusts are authz | 18:31 |
| morgan | not authn | 18:31 |
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| morgan | if the idp is providing authz (not keystone), we have a bigger issue. | 18:32 |
| henrynash | morgan: but the group mappings from teh idp ARE used to “generate” authz | 18:32 |
| stevemar | we have the same issue if using trusts and LDAP users right? | 18:32 |
| morgan | henrynash: that is now what i mean | 18:32 |
| breton | stevemar: no | 18:32 |
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| morgan | henrynash: keystone has to explicitly map that. | 18:32 |
| henrynash | morgan: agreed | 18:32 |
| stevemar | ah the groups are mapped back, duh | 18:32 |
| morgan | henrynash: this is no different except an operator who wants trusts needs to explicitly add federated users. | 18:33 |
| morgan | to a group | 18:33 |
| morgan | no implicit based on trust | 18:33 |
| morgan | unless the trust expiry is a known value | 18:33 |
| ayoung | groups are an attribute that are used to assign authz. Those groups may come from the IdP origianlly, but must be recorded in Keystone in order to have a non-ephemeral effect | 18:33 |
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| morgan | aka it expires about when the assertion (or similar view) is expired | 18:33 |
| stevemar | 13:24 stevemar: breton: can you assign the role necessary to the user directly? | 18:33 |
| stevemar | 13:24 breton: stevemar: no. There can be very many users. | 18:33 |
| stevemar | 13:24 stevemar: ah dang | 18:33 |
| morgan | ayoung: ++ | 18:33 |
| breton | morgan: it's not the operator wants trusts. Users want. | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | ayoung in order to have a non-ephemeral effect on users* | 18:34 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, in order to have any non-ephemeral effect | 18:34 |
| breton | morgan: we can't make each user ask operator when they want to use a trust | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | ayoung aha - yeah | 18:34 |
| ayoung | you can create a trust, but if the info used to create that trust is not recorded, the trust is non-executable | 18:34 |
| morgan | breton: yes we can. | 18:34 |
| morgan | ayoung: ++ | 18:35 |
| stevemar | ayoung: so you're saying... shadow groups! :D | 18:35 |
| morgan | breton: i'm sorry but no creating trusts based on ephemeral idp groups | 18:35 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, probably should be something explicit | 18:35 |
| morgan | if the data is exclusively controlled by the IDP, no trusts | 18:35 |
| henrynash | morgan: so the explict support is obvioulsy one approach (and we should support it imho..and I assume we do already), | 18:35 |
| dstanek | would short term trusts work? something that expires at the same time as the token of the trustor | 18:36 |
| morgan | henrynash: i think it needs it | 18:36 |
| rderose | operators will be able to create federated users via API and can then explicitly make trusts | 18:36 |
| rderose | *operators/admins | 18:36 |
| morgan | dstanek: well i'd do a expiration of the assertion | 18:36 |
| morgan | dstanek: but yes, i'd be ok with fixed life trusts | 18:36 |
| ayoung | stevemar, something in the mapping that indicates that users in IdP I via protocol P should be added to group G | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | rderose but then if something changes in the idp - the trust can still be valid | 18:36 |
| morgan | dstanek: as an option provided we track the data from the idp | 18:36 |
| breton | morgan: this is a huge step back in federation | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | when it might not be | 18:36 |
| stevemar | rderose: operators could also assign roles individually. breton is saying he doesn't want his operator/admin to deal with all the requets | 18:36 |
| dstanek | if users have to be greated by the operator in this case them mapping buys them nothong and the are using a glorified ldap | 18:37 |
| rderose | lbragstad: what idp change would cause it to be invalid? | 18:37 |
| morgan | rderose: many things. | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | rderose depends on the assertion/idp setup | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | (case-by-case problems are *so* fun!) | 18:37 |
| breton | morgan: it becomes a thing that doesn't support part of keystone functionality | 18:37 |
| dstanek | the whole point of federation is that we don't have to have all the users/groups in keystone and they are dynamically provided by the IdP | 18:38 |
| ayoung | we should look at what OpenIDC does here. This is a pattern larger than Keystone and OpenStack | 18:38 |
| morgan | breton: the only way you're gettiing trusts based on idp info is if the trust expires at the expiry of the assertion (or something similar) | 18:38 |
| rderose | morgan: lbragstad: but if you explicitly give a federated user a role, that role assignment should exist regardless of changes to the idp | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | rderose exactly | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: they map it to a local user | 18:38 |
| ayoung | We had only looked at OAUTH1a when Trusts were implemented | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: then the local user is granted access | 18:38 |
| rderose | if you manually provision, then you should manually deprovision | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: in almost every-single-case | 18:38 |
| dstanek | rderose: exactly. and that;s the problem | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | rderose what if something in the idp changes and that trust should no longer be valid? | 18:38 |
| ayoung | morgan, I mean for management of delegation | 18:38 |
| breton | lets than document that trusts don't work with groups from federated token and stop advertising federation as first-class citizen | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: it's checked on each authn | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: or fixed life | 18:38 |
| ayoung | morgan, is there an analogue to trusts there? | 18:38 |
| morgan | ayoung: no. the assertion (token?) is the trust | 18:39 |
| morgan | ayoung: so i auth with say google, to APP | 18:39 |
| morgan | i give access to the google things for the life of the token/assertion | 18:39 |
| rderose | breton: everything you can do with a local user, you should be able to do with a federated user | 18:39 |
| morgan | if the app has specific attrs/authz it is given explicitly to the user object that google auth links to | 18:39 |
| breton | rderose: i absolutely agree with that. But the reality is different. | 18:40 |
| stevemar | rderose: thats breton's issue, he can't right now :P | 18:40 |
| dstanek | morgan: exactly what i was thinking with short term trusts | 18:40 |
| ayoung | rderose, you can. The problem is that you still need to record the group membership for the Federated user. Which gets us back into the "the user needs to log in first before they can be admin'd" | 18:40 |
| morgan | dstanek: so ... if we do time-limited trusts and store the information, i'd be ok with it. | 18:40 |
| ayoung | rderose, which is why it would be better if the group memebership was triggered by the mapping process | 18:40 |
| stevemar | gonna cut this conversation off in a minute or two | 18:40 |
| morgan | dstanek: i just wont support indefinite trusts on ephemeral data | 18:40 |
| stevemar | i don't think we're going to solve it here | 18:40 |
| dstanek | morgan: ++ | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | this is interesting though - should we save it for -keystone later? | 18:41 |
| rderose | ayoung: or, provision your federated users via the API; deprovision when their access should change | 18:41 |
| ayoung | someone write up the use case as a spec please | 18:41 |
| stevemar | ayoung: the bug exists :P | 18:41 |
| breton | short-lived trusts won't work for Heat | 18:41 |
| morgan | rderose: there is a mechanism to say assertion is expired...but that feedback is not well supported in most IDPs | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | rderose but then we're managing federated users in the IDP and in keystone | 18:41 |
| dstanek | lbragstad: ++ that doesn't make sense | 18:42 |
| rderose | lbragstad: we're managing their authorization in keystone | 18:42 |
| henrynash | morgan: I would also support the time-limiting option for a trust (which should be applicable to regualr suers or federated users) | 18:42 |
| breton | (because it explicitely requires long-lived trusts) | 18:42 |
| morgan | henrynash: we already support that feature | 18:42 |
| morgan | henrynash: it's implemented :). | 18:42 |
| rderose | lbragstad: at HP, user requests access, some system calls keystone and provisions access | 18:42 |
| morgan | breton: what is a long-lived trust? | 18:42 |
| morgan | breton: indefintie? | 18:42 |
| henrynash | He’s smart, that morgan guy, ya know | 18:42 |
| morgan | 1-day? 2-days? 16-days? | 18:42 |
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| dstanek | rderose: you are no longer using federation | 18:43 |
| breton | morgan: indefinite i guess. | 18:43 |
| * antwash being the newbie sucks... | 18:43 | |
| rderose | dstanek: you are using federation for authentication | 18:43 |
| stevemar | hehe | 18:43 |
| ayoung | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1589993 | 18:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589993 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "cannot use trusts with federated users" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Boris Bobrov (bbobrov) | 18:43 |
| morgan | breton: that is breaking how security in federation works then | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | antwash :) | 18:43 |
| morgan | breton: this is *not* secure. | 18:43 |
| dstanek | rderose: you don't get any of the benefits of what federation offers | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | antwash patience young grass hopper, patience | 18:43 |
| stevemar | okay, i'm gonna cut this one off, we have a lot more on the agenda | 18:43 |
| breton | morgan: i agree. Then lets stop calling federation first-class citizen and advertise that it can everything local backend can. | 18:44 |
| ayoung | breton, grab me after and we can talk through it | 18:44 |
| morgan | breton: works for me | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | I'll hang out in -keystone after the meeting to continue this discussion with folks if they want | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung morgan ++ | 18:44 |
| breton | cool | 18:44 |
| morgan | anyway lets talk in -keystone | 18:44 |
| ayoung | same here | 18:44 |
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| * topol I remember when lbragstad was the grasshopper... feelin old | 18:44 | |
| stevemar | crinkle: o/ | 18:44 |
| crinkle | o/ | 18:44 |
| morgan | breton: i have a fix btw... just want to be very deliberate about how we implement it | 18:44 |
| stevemar | Federation: federated users can't log into Horizon - https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/1660436 | 18:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660436 in python-novaclient "Federated users cannot log into horizon" [Undecided,New] | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | topol lol | 18:45 |
| crinkle | so 1660436 - what's happening is after a federated user successfully authn's, horizon then tries to load one of the nova panels with the novaclient, and it's trying to create a new token session with the federated token, and it fails because it's not persisting domain data, so keystoneauth's discovery returns a v2 endpoint, which a federated user can't use | 18:45 |
| morgan | crinkle: euuw. | 18:45 |
| crinkle | I was digging into it and more or less ran into a wall at that point because it involves multiple projects, but I put everything I found out into the bug | 18:45 |
| morgan | we should fix that :P | 18:45 |
| crinkle | morgan: yeah it is super gross | 18:45 |
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| rodrigods | this is unexpected side effect | 18:45 |
| stevemar | to me, it feels like the fix belongs in how horizon doess stuff... | 18:45 |
| ayoung | stevemar, probably not | 18:46 |
| crinkle | robcresswell said he would look into it | 18:46 |
| ayoung | stevemar, Horizon is pretty simple here: get a Federated unscoped token, convert it to a scoped token | 18:46 |
| morgan | we could persist the domain info in the token, no? | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | crinkle so it's pulling the domain from the token - but failing to look things up with it? | 18:46 |
| morgan | and let horizon consume that? | 18:46 |
| stevemar | crinkle: yeah, but we probably need to help the horizon team out here | 18:46 |
| ayoung | we'd still have no groups | 18:46 |
| morgan | ayoung: oh ugh, and with fernet that becomes icky | 18:46 |
| morgan | hmmm. | 18:46 |
| ayoung | yeah | 18:46 |
| crinkle | lbragstad: no, it's not pulling the domain info | 18:46 |
| ayoung | morgan, again, shadow all the info we need for future use | 18:47 |
| crinkle | lbragstad: that's kind of the problem, with no domain info keystoneauth says use v2 | 18:47 |
| ayoung | perhaps we time-limit group membership? | 18:47 |
| morgan | ayoung: pretty much how other apps do it | 18:47 |
| morgan | ayoung: we can overwrite the data if the assertion is changed (from the same IDP) | 18:47 |
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| morgan | ayoung: that is sane | 18:47 |
| morgan | and no different than how local users work | 18:47 |
| morgan | ayoung: so a single record per-user-per-idp for that | 18:48 |
| ayoung | morgan, assuming that a new assertion has the complete set of groups, then, yes, remove group membership for missing groups | 18:48 |
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| ayoung | is that a safe assumption? | 18:48 |
| morgan | the new assertion would *have* to have the value of all groups for that ID from that IDP | 18:48 |
| morgan | it is authortitative | 18:48 |
| morgan | i don't think you get partial assertions ;) | 18:48 |
| morgan | i would say worth saying it's safe and have someone do a bit of research before impl | 18:49 |
| ayoung | morgan, you could use different profiles, and get different sets of groups, but...I think that in that case, the profile used would be static, and should be authoritative...so still remove | 18:49 |
| morgan | exactly | 18:49 |
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| morgan | again, per-idp-per user | 18:49 |
| ayoung | per protocol | 18:49 |
| morgan | if you authed with a different idp for example FB vs Google | 18:49 |
| morgan | yeah | 18:49 |
| morgan | i'd expect it to be different | 18:49 |
| ayoung | same IdP, different protocol.... | 18:49 |
| ayoung | different groups? | 18:50 |
| morgan | should result in the same data? | 18:50 |
| ayoung | might happen | 18:50 |
| morgan | i'd start with per-IDP and expand if needed | 18:50 |
| ayoung | mapping is per protocol. I'd do it per protocol | 18:50 |
| morgan | ok sure | 18:50 |
| ayoung | er...per mapping, really. | 18:50 |
| morgan | anyway | 18:50 |
| morgan | per mapping | 18:50 |
| morgan | shadow the data, | 18:50 |
| ayoung | you cabn technically reuse the mapping for different protocols, but that would be unlikely to work | 18:51 |
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| ayoung | so would still end up per protocol, I think | 18:51 |
| * ayoung is done | 18:51 | |
| morgan | anyway | 18:51 |
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| morgan | crinkle: fixable we probably need to shadow the user info in keystone | 18:51 |
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| stevemar | morgan: i don't think we have time to implement all that? | 18:52 |
| morgan | crinkle: and we can update that as assertions come in. | 18:52 |
| morgan | stevemar: not in Ocata | 18:52 |
| stevemar | morgan: right, but right now federated users can't get into horizon | 18:52 |
| morgan | going to go on record and say, it wont happen in Ocata (sadly) | 18:52 |
| morgan | it's an architectural issue | 18:52 |
| stevemar | like, any of them | 18:52 |
| morgan | we'd need to store groups too | 18:52 |
| morgan | because the token has to be reconstructed | 18:52 |
| stevemar | crinkle: can we revert the change that novaclient made? | 18:53 |
| morgan | we could make a temp fernet token formatter that stores a ton extra data | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | right now - federated fernet tokens store groups in the token itself | 18:53 |
| morgan | lbragstad: oh ok then we should be ok | 18:53 |
| morgan | and we can just persist domain data | 18:53 |
| crinkle | stevemar: well not really, the bug it fixed was a pretty nasty bug too | 18:53 |
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| morgan | crinkle: ok, so solution: persiste the domain data | 18:54 |
| stevemar | crinkle: what about catching the exception on the horizon side? | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | morgan https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/providers/fernet/token_formatters.py#L596 | 18:54 |
| morgan | crinkle: much easier and Ocata possible if that is the issue. it's just storing the info in the fernet format | 18:54 |
| morgan | crinkle: it will be a new fernet formatter that is then used (we can't change the formatters we have as they are tied to specific format) | 18:54 |
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| morgan | lbragstad: ^ sound right to you? | 18:55 |
| morgan | stevemar: ^cc | 18:55 |
| ayoung | dstanek, lbragstad weren't one of you working on creating resources on demand for Federated users? | 18:55 |
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| ayoung | proejcts was the big one, but also role assignments etc? | 18:55 |
| morgan | ayoung: rderose is? | 18:55 |
| morgan | ayoung: i think | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | morgan i can double check - but i don't think we guarantee the format to not change | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | ayoung yeah we worked on that | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | ayoung it was federated auto-provisioning | 18:56 |
| morgan | lbragstad: it's about ensuring the decoder doesn't give bogus data back passed the same id# | 18:56 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, we'd need it for the Federated/Horizon use case, I think | 18:56 |
| morgan | lbragstad: the design was to never change a formatter, just make a new one and use the new format id | 18:56 |
| stevemar | ah | 18:57 |
| morgan | lbragstad: that way tokens stay interoperable in upgrades (no-down-time-upgrades, you'll break things in weird ways) | 18:57 |
| stevemar | lbragstad: is there a reason why domain id is not in FederatedScopedPayload ? | 18:57 |
| morgan | lbragstad: so, new formatter. old keystones can't decode new, but new keystone can decode old | 18:57 |
| stevemar | i guess cause that never existed until now | 18:57 |
| morgan | unless this is ocata formatter... just you see where i am going | 18:57 |
| stevemar | crinkle: not sure if you've followed the upstream changes, but we now ensure all federated users have a domain id | 18:58 |
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| crinkle | stevemar: yes i followed that | 18:58 |
| stevemar | so can add domain id stuff to https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/providers/fernet/token_formatters.py#L586-L635 | 18:58 |
| morgan | we may need to just make sure that data is available to horizon | 18:58 |
| stevemar | i think that'll solve the issue? | 18:58 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/federation/federated_identity.html#auto-provisioning | 18:59 |
| stevemar | bah, barely got through the agenda | 18:59 |
| stevemar | thanks for coming y'all | 18:59 |
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| stevemar | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 19:00:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-01-31-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-01-31-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-01-31-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| ianw | hi infra people | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | morning ianw | 19:00 |
| jeblair | hi ianw | 19:00 |
| Zara | o/ | 19:00 |
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| ianw | everyone more qualified is busy, so you get me and an emacs buffer full of commands today instead of fungi | 19:01 |
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| SotK | o/ | 19:01 |
| ianw | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 31 19:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| ianw | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| ianw | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| ianw | I do not think there are any announcements | 19:02 |
| ianw | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:02 |
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| ianw | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-01-03-19.02.log.html#l-9 | 19:02 |
| zaro | o/ | 19:02 |
| ianw | fungi to announce the infra ptg pike etherpad to relevant mailing lists. | 19:02 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110992.html | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | done | 19:03 |
| ianw | fungi to plumb https for docs.o.o and developer.o.o | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | working nicely - done ;) | 19:03 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/424893 | 19:03 |
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| ianw | yep, that's all nice and green-locky :) | 19:03 |
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| ianw | clarkb to make a gerritbot release | 19:03 |
| ianw | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/gerritbot/tag/?h=0.3.0 | 19:04 |
| ianw | seems fine, i'm not sure if we restarted though? are we getting the branch in the log messages | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | gerrit2 76257 0.1 0.0 396140 37816 ? Sl Jan26 13:34 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/gerritbot /etc/gerritbot/gerritbot.config | 19:06 |
| ianw | maybe no from a quick look, and i think that was the major feature. i won't action item that but will take a look later | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | that seems to be 2 days after the release? | 19:06 |
| jeblair | gerritbot==0.2.1.dev13 | 19:07 |
| jeblair | so maybe hasn't upgraded on the server | 19:07 |
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| ianw | ahh, that would explain it | 19:07 |
| ianw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417450/4/gerritbot/bot.py <- is the bit i'm thinking of | 19:07 |
| ianw | let me add that then since we figured it out | 19:08 |
| ianw | #action ianw ensure gerritbot upgrade is deployed for new release (0.3.0) | 19:09 |
| ianw | ok | 19:09 |
| ianw | #topic Specs approval | 19:09 |
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| ianw | #info APPROVED "Update zuulv3 spec to include job repo information" spec | 19:10 |
| ianw | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/zuulv3.html#jobs | 19:10 |
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| ianw | I think that is it for this week? | 19:10 |
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| ianw | ok, moving on | 19:11 |
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| ianw | priority efforts ... i don't have anything specific to say, but we can go through the topics quickly and pipe up if you do | 19:12 |
| ianw | #topic Priority efforts: Ansible Puppet Apply | 19:13 |
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| ianw | #topic Priority efforts: A Task Tracker for OpenStack | 19:13 |
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| ianw | #topic Priority efforts: Zuul v3 | 19:14 |
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| ianw | just so everyone knows, there's a specific zuul meeting | 19:14 |
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| ianw | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 19:14 |
| jeblair | i don't think there's anything we need to chat about this meeting | 19:14 |
| ianw | #topic Priority efforts: Gerrit 2.13 Upgrade | 19:15 |
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| zaro | I’ll pipe up here. | 19:15 |
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| zaro | pabelanger: was working on making moving zuul-launcher to openstack-ci repo, so this is kinda blocked on that task | 19:16 |
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| zaro | not sure where he’s at on that. | 19:16 |
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| zaro | but if he’s not around then maybe note to ask him next time. | 19:16 |
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| ianw | yes i think he's travelling ATM | 19:17 |
| ianw | just for the record, why does that block the gerrit upgrade? | 19:18 |
| zaro | it allows review-dev.o.o to work with zuul-dev.o.o again. right now it zuul isn’t communicating with review-dev. | 19:21 |
| zaro | zuul/zuul-dev | 19:21 |
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| zaro | gerrit upgrade path is to upgrade it on review-dev and make sure it works with current version of Zuul on Zuul-dev. | 19:22 |
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| ianw | ok | 19:22 |
| ianw | let's make it an action item so we don't forget, but will follow up | 19:23 |
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| ianw | #action pabelanger update on zuul-launcher to openstack-ci move and zuul-dev for gerrit upgrade | 19:23 |
| zaro | specifically this thing, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386745/ | 19:24 |
| ianw | ah, cool | 19:24 |
| ianw | anything else? | 19:24 |
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| zaro | nope. | 19:24 |
| ianw | #topic General topics | 19:24 |
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| ianw | i have one on our disconnects to static.o.o | 19:25 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-January/005103.html | 19:25 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426639/ | 19:25 |
| ianw | i think the first mail explains it, but i feel like switching mpm's on static.o.o will be the easiest thing | 19:25 |
| ianw | but ... i'm sure plenty of people have more experience apache wrangling than me, so any input appreciated | 19:26 |
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| mordred | ianw: yah - the explanation seems reasonable, but I don't have a ton of real useful feedback on that one | 19:28 |
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| ianw | no worries, just a callout if anyone had experience since it seems a commonish issue, at least enough to make it into the apache docs | 19:29 |
| ianw | ok, moving on | 19:29 |
| ianw | #topic Open Discussion | 19:30 |
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| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423904/ | 19:30 |
| bkero | ianw: we can try to move mpms and see if the issue arises. If it does I'm sure we can tweak the settings for it. | 19:30 |
| ianw | we did talk about ^ last week, that was adding bindep to the wheel builders | 19:31 |
| jlvillal | Review request: https://review.openstack.org/425458 gerritbot-puppet :) | 19:31 |
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| jlvillal | Or puppet-gerritbot to be correct. | 19:32 |
| ianw | the wheel build jobs also now output a failure log file like -> http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/wheel-build-centos-7-amd64-python2/2420b36/logs/failed.txt.gz | 19:33 |
| ianw | for example that shows old branches don't like the libvirt that ships with centos7.3 | 19:34 |
| ianw | jlvillal: oh, cool, that was my action item :) | 19:34 |
| jlvillal | ianw: :) | 19:35 |
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| AJaeger | ianw: do you have logs why something fails? spec-cleaner is part of OpenStack, so could you file a bug for the failure, please? | 19:37 |
| ianw | AJaeger: yes, the build logs are compressed into -> http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/wheel-build-centos-7-amd64-python2/2420b36/logs/build-logs.tar.bz2 | 19:38 |
| ianw | AJaeger: i'm not sure about spec-cleaner. the NSS related ones need libraries installed ... which are specified in the requirements bindep ... which is why i started down this path :) | 19:39 |
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| ianw | oh yeah, that's right, the spec-cleaner one gives a odd setup.py error : http://paste.openstack.org/show/597080/ | 19:41 |
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| ianw | anyway, we can look into that later | 19:41 |
| ianw | last call, otherwise I think we're done a little early here | 19:41 |
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| AJaeger | ianw: oh, spec-cleaner is not in OpenStack - let me file the bug then... | 19:42 |
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| ianw | ok, as always we'll be in #openstack-infra for your infra needs | 19:44 |
| ianw | #endmeeting | 19:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 31 19:44:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-01-31-19.01.html | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-01-31-19.01.txt | 19:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-01-31-19.01.log.html | 19:44 |
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| * bswartz wonders where ttx is | 20:05 | |
| dolphm | tc meeting canceled today, IIRC from a thread last week | 20:05 |
| sdague | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-tc/2017-January/001329.html | 20:06 |
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| bswartz | ty | 20:08 |
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