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ramishra#startmeeting heat08:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 08:04:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'08:04
ramishra#topic roll call08:05
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therveHi :)08:05
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ramishratherve: are we the only ones in the meeting today;)08:06
therveCool, should be short08:06
skraynevhi all :)08:06
ramishraskraynev: welcome:)08:06
skraynevI hope, that I will not break you plans :)08:06
skraynevabout short meeting :)08:06
ramishrayep we'll have a very short one:)08:06
skraynev*your plans :)08:07
ramishralet's wait for few mins, may be someone else joins:)08:07
ramishra#topic adding items to agenda08:08
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ramishra#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-10-19_0800_UTC.2908:08
ramishraI think we can just discuss the gate issue and close?08:08
ramishratherve: I've added you as moderator for one of fishbowl sessions, without asking you:)08:09
therveOK :)08:09
strigazio/ watching quietly :)08:09
ramishrastrigazi: hey welcome:)08:10
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ramishrastrigazi: would be good if you can add more details on the latest round of tests you're doing to the etherpad08:10
strigaziramishra, ok08:11
ramishra#topic gate issue08:11
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ramishra#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/163471708:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1634717 in heat "gate broken as dib-utils removed from PROJECTS list" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi)08:11
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ramishraso we've to merge number of devstack/heat changes to make it work.08:12
ramishraall stable branches are broken too.08:12
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skraynevramishra: do you have some final patch, with depends-on, which confirm, that devstack patches fix this bug?08:12
ramishratherve: I was talking about removing the devstack in-tree code, any reason we should not push for that?08:13
skraynevramishra: it probably can help us to merge patches faster08:13
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ramishratherve: I'm not sure if we can handle these kind of issues regularly, merging changes both places.08:13
ramishraskraynev: I'm hoping https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388274/ should fix it.08:14
therveramishra, So wait08:14
therveramishra, If we need to merge in both places, doesn't that mean that it's still used?08:14
skraynevramishra: +1 for removing duplicate code from devstack08:14
ramishraskraynev: but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388385/ should land first.08:15
ramishratherve: have you seen this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361542/08:15
ramishratherve: it depends on the devstack in-tree code removal patch.08:16
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therveramishra, So?08:16
ramishraso the issue is, we've a few hacks for now, to make it work.08:16
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ramishraso we can't keep on doing the same things.08:16
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skraynevramishra: looks like  only newton and liberty patches are in queue, other cherry-picks were already merged08:16
therveramishra, Yeah but that's not my question. Why do we need to change devstack heat code? Why is it used anywhere?08:17
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ramishratherve: the issue is once you enable heat services, you source bothe devstack/heat/lib and the plugin lib08:18
ramishraand devstack code is called before the plugin code could be called08:18
therveramishra, That sounds wrong? Can't we fix that?08:18
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ramishraI'm not sure if that is a simple thing to fix.08:19
ramishralot's places in project-config we enable services and the enable the plugin08:19
ramishrawe've to fix all of them.08:20
ramishraenable heat services08:20
therveOK08:20
therveAnyway I'm not against removing devstack code08:20
therveI just feel that we don't control what's going on enough08:20
therveSo be prepared for a "I told you so" if anything goes wrong :p08:20
ramishrayeah I agree, few projects like sahara and tacker need to change.08:21
ramishramagnum has already changed to use the heat plugin.08:21
ramishrawe can talk to those folks during the summit.08:21
ramishraskraynev: you can help convicne sahara team:)08:22
skraynevramishra: sure. and probably Murano too. I will ask them to propose patch. Will it be enough?08:22
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ramishraskraynev: yeah, they just have to use heat plugin like magnum has done.08:23
ramishraskraynev: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369812/08:23
skraynevramishra: Great. thank you. I will point on this patch :)08:24
ramishraso that's all from my side.08:24
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ramishraanything else, we would like to discuss?08:24
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ramishrasee you all in barcelona:)08:25
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ramishratherve: it must be just few hrs for you, right?08:25
therveYeah not even that :)08:26
ramishraI always have to travel the most:(08:26
ramishrathanks all, moving back to #heat08:26
ramishra#endmeeting heat08:27
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BobBall#startmeeting XenAPI09:32
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: ping!09:32
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johnthetubaguyhey, half here, half away in a VC09:32
jianghuawGood morning Bob and johnthetubaguy.09:32
BobBallVC? Video Call?09:32
BobBallAnyway - hi :)09:33
BobBallTwo main points to talk about this week - that I know of anyway.09:33
BobBall#topic Ocata Blueprints09:33
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huanxieGood morning BobBall and  johnthetubaguy09:33
BobBalljianghuaw has posted two blueprints that we'd very much like to get into Ocata.09:33
BobBallBP1: os-xenapi - jianghuaw can you talk to that?09:33
johnthetubaguyyeah, video call, no startup nonsense09:33
jianghuaw#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385810/5/specs/ocata/approved/generalize-pci-device.rst09:34
BobBallMorning huanxie - I thought you were still in training :) Glad you could join us :)09:34
BobBallok - generalize pci device first :)09:34
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BobBallSo this is agreed as a pre-requisite to the vGPU implementation09:34
jianghuawand this one for "09:34
jianghuawXenAPI: add common os-xenapi libary": #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379279/09:34
BobBallWe should probably submit a BP/Spec at some point for vGPU too09:35
jianghuawBobBall, yes. I'm change vGPU spec basing on the generalizing PCI.09:35
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jianghuawshould be ready for a review soon.09:35
BobBallbut in terms of generalizing the PCI devices, we'd very much like to push for this to be in Ocata, and as it's something that's got the backing of Dan and Jay already and is a generic thing that needs to happen to unblock various other specs we were wondering what process would be needed to propose it for a priority BP in Ocata?09:36
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: that q was for you (to highlight so you see it when you have a moment from your VC)09:38
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johnthetubaguyjust need the BP and spec first I guess09:41
johnthetubaguythe scheduler stuff is generally a priority I would expect09:41
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BobBallIf there's a consensus that the PCI refactoring can't be a priority, that's fine, but we're ready to do the work needed and it is something that will unblock other specs for future releases (vGPU, vTPM, others that I can't remember)09:42
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BobBallI know there is only so much resource (even if just reviewing bandwidth) and so the limit on the number of priority items needs to be kept down09:43
BobBallAnyway - jianghuaw and huanxie will be in Barcelona next week and will attend the nova priorities session09:43
jianghuawsomeone was asking for support on FPGA also.09:43
BobBalljianghuaw: Can you also chat with Dan / Jay to see what their thoughts on listing it as a priority BP are09:44
jianghuawBobBall: sure.09:44
BobBallGetting some discussions going before the summit will always be useful.09:44
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BobBalljohnthetubaguy: The other spec that we need your input on is the os-xenapi spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379279/09:45
jianghuawTotally agree.09:45
johnthetubaguyI should try get to that soon09:45
jianghuawBut Jay seems is on vacation for this whole week.09:45
BobBallwe're pushing forward with the os-xenapi library as clearly if we wait for approval there won't be much time to do the work.09:45
jianghuawBut sure I will chat with Dan.09:45
BobBalljohnthetubaguy: So some early approval of the general direction would be very helpful09:46
johnthetubaguyyeah, totally09:46
johnthetubaguyI mean it sounds sensible at a high level09:46
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BobBallThe two things we're aiming to move over are the high level session management and the plugins09:47
BobBall#topic AOB09:49
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BobBallThey are the two things that we need to progress as soon as possible09:49
BobBallIs there anything else we should discuss in this meeting?09:49
huanxieI have one patch ready for review #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359548/09:50
huanxieThis is for the live-migration when using XS7.009:50
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BobBallAh yes -09:50
BobBallThis patch is very relevant to rackspace johnthetubaguy09:50
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BobBallXS 7.0 changed the default for whether xsm live migration should attempt to live migrate iscsi SRs but the detection logic in Nova didn't cope with that, so Nova was claiming that the live migrate couldn't work when actually it could.09:51
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huanxieThis patch's logic is simple, check with XCP version and give default value for xsm09:52
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BobBallhuanxie: Could you check / make sure it's on the etherpad for ocata reviews that are ready?09:53
huanxieSure, I will check that09:53
BobBallRight.  Is there anything else we should cover today?09:54
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BobBallWe can cover MOS 9.1 briefly; Mirantis have added a requirement for the tasks.yaml to have version numbers for each task.  We've got a fix in the works, but until we release a new plugin, the MOS 9.0 plugin cannot be used on an upgraded MOS 9.1 system.09:54
huanxieBobBall, double checked, in ocata09:54
BobBallThanks huanxie.09:54
BobBalljianghuaw: Likewise for your two BPs - please make sure they are listed in the ocata nova review priorities etherpad.09:55
BobBallAnything else from anyone else?09:55
jianghuawBobBall, that's all for me.09:55
huanxieNone for me, I will modify my another patch for VIF hotplug, maybe discussing it next meeting09:55
BobBallSounds goo.d09:56
BobBallThanks all - will close the meeting there then.09:56
BobBall#endmeeting09:56
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huanxieThanks BobBall09:56
jianghuawThanks.09:57
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tonyb#startmeeting requirements12:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 12:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:00
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tonyb#topic rollcall12:01
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coolsvapo/12:01
tonybWho's here?12:01
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prometheanfireo/12:01
tonyb\o/12:01
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tonybnumber80, dirk,  toabctl ?12:02
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tonybGive them 90seconds more ....12:03
tonyb#topic Meeting poll12:04
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tonybcoolsvap: did I drop the ball there?12:04
tonybcoolsvap: I'm not 100% certain where we got to with the doodle poll12:04
toabctlhi12:04
tonybtoabctl: hi12:05
coolsvapTony12:05
coolsvaptonyb: let me check12:05
dirko/12:06
prometheanfireI should probably update that, as I have times open even earlier12:06
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prometheanfireafter the dst changes I can go one hour earlier still12:06
coolsvap1000 & 1100 utc seems to be working for 4 people12:07
dirkshare the link again=12:07
dirkplease?12:07
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coolsvaptonyb: do not see your vote12:09
tonybcoolsvap: okay so I did drop the ball12:10
tonybcoolsvap: Can you drop the link here12:10
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tonybAhh I found it12:11
tonyb#link http://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts12:11
coolsvapWait I'm on mobile12:11
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coolsvapOh good12:11
coolsvapSame times seem to work for everyone12:12
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tonybokay so 1000 or 1100 UTC seem okay for most people.  Can I just pick 1000am UTC does that work for most people after local DST changes?12:13
dirk+112:13
toabctl+112:13
prometheanfireupdated, I can do 2PM local as well12:14
prometheanfirebut yes, that times is fine too12:14
prometheanfire+112:14
tonybcoolsvap: IIUC you don't DST12:14
coolsvaptonyb: yes no dst12:15
tonybokay so I think 1000 is the new meeting time.12:15
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coolsvapWorks for me12:15
prometheanfirekk12:15
prometheanfirewhen will that go into effect?12:16
tonybWe'll skip next week because summit so in 14days from now we'll meet 2 hours earlier12:16
prometheanfirekk12:16
tonybNov 2nd?12:16
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dirktonyb: will you do the review with the adjusted time?12:17
* dirk wants to +1 it12:17
tonybThanks everyone.  We'll have this discussion again in 6moths when everyone does the opposite DST chnage12:17
tonybdirk: if you do the review I can +2 it ;P12:17
dirkdeal!12:17
tonybdirk: #winning12:18
coolsvapHopefully we have more participation in the poll then :)12:18
tonyb:)12:18
tonybokay ...12:18
tonyb#topic Any controversies in the Queue?12:18
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tonyb. gunicorn12:19
prometheanfireit sounds like they have gunicorn as a runtime dep in their code12:19
prometheanfirewhich complicates maters12:19
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dirktonyb: https://review.openstack.org/38866212:20
* dirk hasn't fully read the mail thread yet12:20
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dirkruntime or testing dep?12:20
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tonybYeah I need to see the code.  for that.  my take is it's a dependancy for the reference implementation but a deployer could use anything?12:20
dirkI'm personally fine with adding it although it is probably a debate about the "is this functionality already provided elsewhere" topic12:20
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prometheanfiretonyb: that's not how I understand it (or how it's being presented), I'd just ask in the bug12:21
dirkI'd certainly be happer to draw a line and have it outside the line. and I understood there was someone saying "I'm not entirely vetoing it not being in g-r"12:21
tonybprometheanfire: bug?12:21
prometheanfirereview, sorry, gentoo language12:21
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dirklol12:22
tonybdirk: yeah there are a lot os weakly held weak opinions which makes it hard to come to consensus12:23
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dirkI personally don#t have the time this week to spend the research on it12:23
prometheanfireya, I'm still not sure why not pecan12:24
prometheanfireeither do I, my next two weeks are very full to overflowing...12:24
tonybprometheanfire: they don't like it?12:24
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tonybprometheanfire: IIRC it's too bg for a service VM12:24
prometheanfireya, that was what I gathered12:25
prometheanfireI don't really see how that's the case though (it's not that big)12:25
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prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/386758/12/octavia/cmd/agent.py12:26
prometheanfirethat's how they are using it12:26
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tonybprometheanfire: Thanks.  I just asked for that on list .... so now I'll go back cap in hand12:27
prometheanfire:D12:28
prometheanfireit's a long thread12:28
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tonybokay so please review the thread and then +/- vote on the review12:29
tonyb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386790/12:29
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prometheanfirenext?12:32
tonyb... sorry I was looking at the meeting review12:33
tonybdirk can you respin?12:33
tonybAny other controversies?12:33
dirktonyb: done12:34
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tonybI'm going to skip Tasks from Etherpad12:35
dirkohhh12:35
tonyb#topic Open Discussion12:35
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dirkI have an update :)12:35
tonybdirk: for the tasks?12:35
dirkthe check-uc job is now voting12:35
tonyb\o/12:36
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prometheanfireif it's fine with people I'll be +2+W the oslo changes and rebasing today (most likely)12:36
tonybdirk: Awesoem work12:36
dirkso I'd move that one done..12:36
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prometheanfiredirk: ah, right :D12:36
tonybdirk: please do the honnors :)12:36
prometheanfiredoubleplusgood12:36
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tonybprometheanfire: Sure go nuts on the oslo u-c chnages12:37
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dirkprometheanfire: If you can do an inital pass I can do the 2nd review12:37
dirkI don't have time for the initial pass righ tnow12:38
prometheanfirek12:38
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tonybany else to discuss openly?12:40
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prometheanfirenon12:41
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tonybokay I have something ... less discusion more request ....12:42
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tonybIf you have any feedback on how I'm doing as a PTL or how we're doign as a team (good or bad) I really encourage you to reach out and let me know.12:42
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prometheanfireyou good bro12:43
tonybI can't promise I will chnage but I can promise to listen and try12:43
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tonybprometheanfire: I'd reply in kiwi but it may not translate ;p12:43
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tonybso with that if there is nothgin else?12:44
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tonybThanks everyone12:44
tonyb#endmeeting12:44
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dirktonyb: you're great, thats all :)12:45
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joehuanghello13:00
Yipeihello13:00
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joehuang#startmeeting tricircle13:01
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joehuang#topic rollcall13:02
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zhiyuan#info zhiyuan13:02
joehuang#info joehuang13:02
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Yipei#info Yipei13:02
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joehuang#topic tricircle cleaning13:03
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ronghui_hello13:03
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joehuanghello, just noticed that all MUST TO HAVE patches were merged13:03
yinxiulin_?13:04
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joehuangthat means the tricircle cleaning is completed https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/13:04
joehuangso the Tricircle now only includes networking automation functionality13:05
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joehuangthank you everybody for the moment13:06
zhiyuancool, the two patches were merged right before the meeting :)13:06
joehuangya13:06
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joehuangso a tag will be given tomorrow to have a milestone for the cleaning13:07
joehuangso that pip installation can install the clean tricircle13:08
joehuangand big-tent application will resume after the tagging13:08
joehuangto Ronghui13:08
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joehuangfor the release notes in the master branch, could you update README with a link to the release notes?13:09
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ronghui_ok13:10
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ronghui_for the tricircle or the tiro2o?13:10
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joehuangfor tricircle13:10
ronghui_ok13:10
joehuangjust like the installation link in the README of https://github.com/openstack/tricircle13:11
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joehuanggood, a link for the release notes help contributor to find out what's feature provided13:12
ronghui_ok  and it also need to delete the describe about the Nova-GW and Cinder-GW?13:12
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joehuangalready deleted13:12
ronghui_ok13:12
joehuangok next topic13:13
joehuang#topic bugs and blueprint cleaning13:13
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joehuangas Newton has been released13:13
joehuangbugs and blueprint which have been fixed should be updated13:14
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joehuang#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle13:15
joehuangthe dynamic pod binding blueprint should be closed for we'll move this function to Trio2o13:15
joehuangto Yipei, could u update this BP?13:16
YipeiOK13:16
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joehuangAnd zhiyuan, could u update the bp "cross site connectivity"13:17
joehuang#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle/+spec/cross-site-connectivity13:18
zhiyuanno problem13:18
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joehuangwe may close this one, and register new BP for later L2/L3 features if needed13:18
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joehuang#action update "dynamic pod binding" blueprint13:19
Yipeihow to update the BP? move it to the BP of trio2o?13:19
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joehuang#action update "cross site connectivity" blueprint13:19
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joehuangto Yipei, update regarding items, and close the BP, register a new one in Trio2o13:20
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Yipeiok, got it13:20
joehuangok13:20
zhiyuanDo I need to include the implementation patches both before and after the projet split? Since there are two kinds of implementation13:20
joehuangboth, history is good13:21
zhiyuanok13:22
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joehuangand we also need to close the bugs listed in launchpad for those have already been fixed but not updated in lauchpad13:23
joehuang#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tricircle13:23
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joehuangthere are some bugs alread been fixed, but not close, we need to close these bugs13:23
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joehuangin the future, you can add a tag in the patch to make the patch is linked to some specific bug report13:24
joehuangso that if the patch merged, the bug in launchpad can be closed automaticly13:24
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zhiyuanhow to add this mechanism? config via the openstack/project-config ?13:25
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joehuangno, seems just one line in the commit message13:27
joehuangwill provide the guide in mail-list tomorrow13:28
joehuangany questions on the bugs/blueprint cleaning?13:29
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joehuangok, next topic13:31
joehuang#topic Ocata planning, mile stones.  OpenStack Ocata planning13:31
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joehuang#link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html13:31
joehuangthere are several milestone in OpenStack release schedule13:32
zhiyuanwow, only four months for this circle13:34
joehuanghow do you think about the milestone based plan, what's your proposal for tricircle?13:34
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joehuangyes, this is a quite short release13:34
joehuangbecause the reform of design summit, which will not be held together with summit13:34
zhiyuanrouting admin API can be included in ocata-113:35
joehuangyes, so register one blueprint for routing API13:36
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joehuangfor the first release, no need to have so much milestone13:37
zhiyuanIt's under review and has been improved with several patch sets, i think it can catch up with ocata-113:37
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zhiyuanoh i see, so we don't need to match the three milestone?13:37
zhiyuanDongfeng is the owner of the routing API patch so Dongfeng register the BP?13:38
joehuangwe may define less milestone, so that there is some window to adapt the milestone based plan, and next cycle keep align with the same milestone13:39
joehuangIs Dongfeng online?13:39
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YipeiOK, i will tell him. He is attending class13:39
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joehuangok13:40
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joehuangplease give your milestone proposal in the design summit session etherpad13:41
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joehuang#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-tricircle-work-session13:42
zhiyuanso how many milestone should we set, Joe?13:43
joehuangplease input your thoughts in the etherpad, no need to wait for design summit13:43
joehuangtwo? then release date?13:43
joehuangwe need time to adapt that13:44
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zhiyuanif we set two milestones, we have about one and half a month for each milestone13:46
joehuangok, so next week weekly meeting will be cancelled due to summit13:46
joehuanggood idea, you can input your proposal in the etherpad13:46
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zhiyuanok, I will write down a proposal date13:47
joehuangand two design summit session will be held next week: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads#Tricircle13:47
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joehuangother topics?13:48
zhiyuanno13:48
Yipeino for me13:49
yinxiulinno13:49
ronghui_no for me13:49
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hejiaweino13:49
joehuangthank you for attending the meeting13:49
joehuang#endmeeting13:49
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ronghui_bye13:49
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vkramskikh#startmeeting javascript14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 14:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vkramskikh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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vkramskikhhey14:01
vkramskikhwho's here?14:01
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yujunzhi14:01
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vkramskikhnot so many people :) let's start anyway14:02
vkramskikhagenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/javascript-meeting-2016-10-1914:02
larainemaHello all14:02
vkramskikhhi14:02
vkramskikhI'll start with my topics14:03
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vkramskikh#topic vkramskikh to finish keystone patches14:03
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vkramskikhthe patches that I've started to implement are merged14:03
vkramskikhhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381608/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381713/14:04
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vkramskikhso I think Keystone client is ready for MVP, probably I'll also try to add v3.6 support - it should be easy14:05
yujunzGood news.14:05
larainemaCool14:05
yujunzIf I want to try it out, where should I get started?14:05
vkramskikhtry Keystone client?14:06
yujunzYes14:06
yujunzNot following it closely, but I think I can help to verify it as a new user :-)14:07
vkramskikhwell, since the library is not published to npm yet you may want to run "npm run build" and include the resulting file in your project with your favorite approach - script tag, webpack, etc14:07
yujunzOK, I haven't look at the latest version yet. But there should be some example or document I can follow right?14:08
vkramskikhhmm14:08
vkramskikhit seems there is no such doc14:08
vkramskikhI think if you need help you can ask for it in #openstack-javascript14:09
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yujunzI see.14:10
yujunzI'll try it out and ask for help if needed.14:10
vkramskikhthanks, I think your experience could really help for creation of this doc14:10
yujunzOK, I can take this action14:11
vkramskikh#action someone to create doc about including js-openstack-lib into existing project14:11
vkramskikh#undo14:11
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7fecfa456ad0>14:11
vkramskikh#action yujunz to create doc about including js-openstack-lib into existing project14:11
vkramskikhawesome, thanks :)14:12
vkramskikhlet's move on14:12
vkramskikh#topic krotscheck's items14:12
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vkramskikhAs krotscheck mentioned yesterday in #openstack-javascript , he's no longer able to help with the development :(14:12
yujunzFor a moment or?14:13
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vkramskikhsince release doc has been created by cardeois , the only his item is left: Try to unblock nova.14:13
vkramskikhI don't know, iI understood it like he is not going to contribute to OpenStack projects at all14:14
larainemaI saw cardeois update new patch for nova, but didn't pass the functional tests14:14
vkramskikhyes, so it's still an action to do14:15
cardeoishello14:15
vkramskikh#action everyone Try to unblock nova14:15
cardeoissorry for that forgot you guys14:15
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* cardeois is catching up14:15
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larainemakrotscheck might busy with his daily work, and not have time focus on openstack14:16
vkramskikhhere is your action item14:16
vkramskikh#topic cardeois to figure out how to release js-openstack-lib to npm14:16
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cardeoisYes so I can try to release today if the doc I copied from eslint-config-openstack works14:17
cardeoiswhich version should we release though?14:17
cardeois0.0.1 ?14:17
cardeoisshould I include a "pre" or "beta" ?14:17
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vkramskikhI'm ok with 0.0.1, it's definitely not shouldn't be 1.0.0 :)14:17
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vkramskikhI think it should be just 0.0.1 - it has limited functionality but it works14:18
cardeoishaha right but there is a lot of npmjs packages I used in the past that wasn't 1.0.0 but still prod ready14:18
cardeoisbut ok let's do 0.0.114:18
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vkramskikhawesome14:19
vkramskikhand one more action item14:19
vkramskikh#topic everyone to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381929/ and try to help with docs job failure14:19
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vkramskikhit seems there is no progress here14:19
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cardeoisYes larainema I saw you did a review for docs on this project, am I right?14:20
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larainemaI have creat a patch to fix it14:20
cardeoisOh right it's here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385777/14:20
larainemaBut need the core reviewers to land it14:21
vkramskikhcool!14:21
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cardeoisSo which core reviewer can we poke?14:22
vkramskikh#action everyone to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385777/14:22
vkramskikhI know there is a rule to have 5 +1's to land a patch to eslint-config-openstack14:22
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vkramskikhnot sure if it applies to all patches or just changes to eslint rules14:22
cardeoisoh ok14:22
yujunz5 is a lot14:23
larainemakrotscheck: and betherly , I think I can ping them14:23
vkramskikhAFAIR betherly is a core of eslint-config-openstack14:23
vkramskikhgreat, so let's review this patch and then ask cores to merge it14:23
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vkramskikh#topic js-openstack-lib first release14:24
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vkramskikhso as it was mentioned earlier cardeois will try to publish the release according to the doc14:24
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cardeoisAnd I think we have everything we need for a first release14:24
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cardeoisLike a basic readme14:25
vkramskikhgreat14:25
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vkramskikhafter the release I can include it as a fuel's dependency in package.json and continue with the migration14:26
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cardeoiscool14:26
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vkramskikh#topic Open discussion14:26
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cardeoisTo come back about nova review from krotscheck, I rebased it but didn't fix the nova issue yet. From what I remember the CORS is not working and we need to debug nova to see what's going on14:27
cardeoisSo personnally I won't have time to work on that this week, and I'm going to barcelona next week and taking 2 weeks of after that.14:27
cardeoisSo does anyone has time to help on that?14:27
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larainemaI can try to help but I am not sure where to start14:28
cardeoisYeah me neither, I guess the first step is to setup a devstack (with the vagrant file provided) and run functional test14:29
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cardeoisthen run a nova by yourself see what's going on14:29
cardeoisOther topic: what about next meeting while in barcelona? Should we skip it? Meet in person for the ones that are in the summit?14:30
yujunzSpeaking about Barcelona, I have received contact information from cardeois msmol and vkramskikh14:30
yujunzAnybody else going?14:30
vkramskikhI think we should skip it14:30
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vkramskikhand meet in person instead14:30
larainemaOkay, I will look at ithe nova issue this and next week14:31
yujunzAgree to skip and meet in person14:31
cardeoisYeah good idea, larainema will you be in barcelona?14:31
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larainemaNo, I didn't get budget to make it this time:(14:31
cardeoisok no worries, are you alright if we skip next meeting?14:32
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larainemaSure, enjoy the summit your guys14:32
vkramskikhthanks :)14:33
vkramskikhany other topics?14:33
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yujunzWhere do you prefer for the meetup in Barcelona?14:33
cardeoisMhh yeah where do we meet?14:33
vkramskikhI haven't been there, probably we can contact each other on Tue14:34
cardeoisNo idea, I would say in the convention center if it's in during the day, or some place else if it's the evening14:34
cardeoisagreed14:34
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cardeoisAlso I'm not sure but is there any design/work session around javascript in the summit? I didn't check the schedule yet14:34
cardeois(One where we should all go)14:35
vkramskikhme too, but krotscheck said there is a session for SDK and we should go there14:35
cardeoisYeah I forgot the link, if you have it let me know14:35
vkramskikhok14:36
vkramskikhany other topics?14:36
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vkramskikhthanks everyone14:37
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cardeoisnope I'm good. I'm doing the release right now, will let you know on #openstack-javascript14:37
vkramskikh#endmeeting14:37
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yujunzbye14:37
cardeoisbye14:37
larainemabye14:38
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Zaraanyone about for the storyboard meeting?15:00
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SotKo/15:00
Zara:)15:00
Zara#startmeeting storyboard15:00
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Zara#topic #Announcements15:00
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ZaraI don't think we have anything to announce, although...15:01
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Zarajeblair sent a wonderful group of patches this week15:01
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Zaraand now the 'updated_at' field is actually useful15:01
SotK\o/15:01
SotKthanks jeblair15:01
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Zarait's been bothering me since I started working on storyboard, so it gets an announcement15:01
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Zara#topic Urgent items15:02
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ZaraNothing urgent that I know of, all I have noted as urgent is 'SUMMIT SUMMIT SUMMIT'15:02
Zarabut that's for next week...15:02
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Zaraoh, maybe I should've announced that the meeting will be cancelled next week, because of the summit15:02
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SotKoh yeah15:03
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Zara#topic In-progress work15:03
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ZaraI still have some ui patches I need to rework, and various bits of review15:03
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ZaraI posted comments on betherly's less-to-sass patch so I'm waiting for a reply there15:04
Zara(it all seems fine, except the headings are bigger, so I want to check it's rendering information about text size/fonts properly)15:04
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jeblairoh yay!  :)15:04
Zarahi! :D15:04
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Zarathanks again15:04
jeblairyou're welcome! :)15:05
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jeblairi'm about to try using them since they are in production now15:05
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* Zara hopes there is no fire15:05
Zarathough there really shouldn't be15:05
jeblairseems okay so far :)15:06
SotK\o/15:06
Zarayayyy15:06
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Zaraso yeah, this week I'm doing review and summit prep. I expect I'll be slow to get back to things15:07
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* SotK will probably fix the teams permission thing either this week or at summit15:08
Zarathat's all from me there, I think; have I missed anything from anyone else?15:08
Zara\o/15:09
SotKat last :)15:09
Zaraah yeah that's a pretty big one, thanks! :D15:09
Zarameh, I hate testing permissions code anyway15:09
Zaratake your time15:09
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Zara(but seriously, thanks) :)15:09
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ZaraI think that's it for inprogress things from folks who are around right now15:10
* SotK thinks so too15:10
Zaraoh yeah, I started updating various webclient components but that's on a back-burner because SUMMIT ARGH15:11
Zaraso moving on15:11
Zarano discussion topics15:11
Zara#topic Open Discussion15:11
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Zaracan you tell I still haven't made my schedule and am panicking a bit? :)15:11
SotK:)15:12
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Zaradiscussion in infra the other day has made it clear to me that I need to stop procrastinating about mailing the list re: complex priority, and we should devote some time ot it at summit15:12
Zara*to15:12
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SotKthat seems sensible15:13
Zaraso that's definitely on the list, and will make it into the etherpad I'll flesh out15:14
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Zaraare there any other things that spring to mind? I'm thinking a kind of 'new things since last summit' roundup15:14
persiaIt may make sense to include a tl;dr section advising PTLs to just create some worklists for their most important things, and advise their teams to subscribe.15:14
Zarayeah, I was thinking of including a demo workflow (both on ml and in etherpad)15:15
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ZaraI want to make sure it's clear it's 'this is what we think will be easiest' rather than 'this is how you should do things'15:15
persiaOh, indeed.15:16
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ZaraI'll try to get stuff up on the etherpad earlyish so folks can read over the draft15:17
Zarathe perks of not having the 9am slot15:17
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Zarathat was meant to be a smiley face but that also works15:17
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Zaraokay, that's something to start with, if folks think of other things, #storyboard will probably be the best place to jot them down before etherpads go up15:19
Zaraat least I can guarantee I'll see that channel in a frenzy of packing :)15:19
Zaraany other discussion points?15:19
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* SotK has nothing15:20
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Zaraokay, I'm happy to end the meeting very early so I have time to MAKE THAT SCHEDULE ARGH15:20
Zaraahem15:20
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Zarait'll be fine.15:20
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Zarathanks, everyone :)15:21
Zaraand sorry to anyone bothered by the fact that items in my countdown were definitely not spaced 1 second apart15:21
Zaraor an even distance apart15:22
SotKthanks Zara15:22
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jlvillal#startmeeting ironic_qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 17:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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jlvillalHello everyone17:00
jlvillalAs always the agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA17:00
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krtayloro/17:00
jlvillalYou may notice if you go to that link that we will not be having a meeting next week.17:00
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rpiosoo/17:00
jlvillal#topic Announcements17:00
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[1]cdearborn\o17:01
jlvillal#info No meeting on 26-Oct-2016. Conflicts with the summit17:01
watanabe_isaoo/17:01
jlvillal#info krtaylor will chair the meeting on 2-Nov-2016 as jlvillal will be on vacation that week.17:01
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jlvillal#info Ironic multi-node patches are working. Currently begging for reviews via email and #openstack-infra to get the devstack-gate patches landed.17:02
jlvillalThat's all I have for announcements. Anything from anyone else?17:02
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jlvillalOkay moving on then17:03
jlvillal#topic Multi-node testing17:03
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vgadirajo/17:03
jlvillal#info Still working on getting the patches merged.17:04
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jlvillal#info Proposed patch to add an experimental job to test Ironic Grenade with multitenant17:05
jlvillal#info Patch is at: https://review.openstack.org/38823917:05
jlvillalSo overall I think we are in good shape. And hoping that we can get those  patches merged soon so we can proceed.17:06
jlvillalAny questions/comments?17:06
jlvillalOkay moving on17:06
jlvillal#topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor)17:06
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jlvillalkrtaylor: All yours. Let me know when you are done please.17:06
krtaylornot much from me, looking forward to summit, I did finally rebase the CI docs outline17:06
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krtaylor#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35310217:07
krtaylorit keeps getting -1 for content, and that's kinda missing the point17:07
krtaylorI don't want it to wind up being the complete document  :)17:07
krtaylorbut, good reviews, I'll roll those in and push a new version this afternoon17:08
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ricardoaso/17:08
jlvillalkrtaylor: Maybe you can chat with mariojv in IRC about his comments?17:08
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krtaylorwe are planning a CI summary/status - I believe we said that would be Friday as a breakout as it was in Austin17:09
krtaylorjlvillal, sure, that's fine17:09
jlvillalOr make the commit message more clear that is isn't about content???17:09
krtaylorit does say outline :)17:09
jlvillalThat will not stop the bike-shedding :P17:09
krtaylor" This patch is to get a basic outline and index done so that we can then build on it."17:09
jlvillal:D17:09
krtaylorit's ok, I'll add the comments, no worries17:10
krtaylorI'd just like to get it in before the index changes again, etc17:10
krtaylorre: summit - did we agree on the breakout?17:11
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krtaylorwell, I'll be flexible, I should be in most of the ironic sessions, I can jump in whenever17:12
jlvillalkrtaylor: I'm not sure. There is a schedule for the session times17:12
jlvillalWe have this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-ocata-summit-qa17:13
krtayloryes, they are vague, as can be expected, just happening or not17:13
jlvillalNot sure if you want to add some 3rd Party stuff in there?17:13
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krtayloroops, missed that one, it is on the main etherpad17:14
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krtaylorall good, I'll add it here17:14
krtaylorso anything else?17:14
jlvillalI got there via https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-ocata-summit17:14
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krtaylorjlvillal, I believe that takes care of CI then17:15
jlvillalkrtaylor: Thanks17:15
jlvillal#topic Open Discussion17:15
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jlvillalIf anyone has anything, speak up now :)17:15
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jlvillalkrtaylor: I remember last week watanabe_isao had quite a few 3rd Party CI questions. Hopefully they were all answered.17:16
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krtaylorjlvillal, I believe so17:16
krtaylorwatanabe_isao, did you have anything else?17:17
jlvillalOkay. Seems like nobody has anything.17:17
ricardoasoneview ci is still down, we are currently redeploying it17:17
jlvillalricardoas: Thanks17:17
jlvillalOkay I think we are done.17:17
jlvillalThanks everyone.17:18
watanabe_isaojlvillal: actually im waiting for the result of jroll.17:18
jlvillal#endmeeting17:18
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ricardoas:)17:18
watanabe_isaooh slow typing. sorry17:18
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 18:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'gluon'18:00
bh526rHi guys18:00
pcarverhello18:00
jinli_Hi Bin, Hi everyone18:00
bh526r#topic  Roll Call and Introduction18:00
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bh526rHi Jin, Paul18:01
bh526r#info Bin Hu18:01
jinli_#info JinLi18:01
pcarver#info Paul Carver18:01
bh526rI think everyone is busy in coding18:01
bh526r#topic Admin Update18:02
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georgk1#info Georg Kunz18:02
tomhambleton#info Tom Hambleton18:02
bh526r#info Gluon Work Session in Barcelona: Friday, October 28, 9:50am-10:30am (up to 11:00am). Room 12218:02
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bh526rHi Georg, and Tom18:02
robinfo: Robert Tao18:02
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bh526r#info Gluon topic will also be discussed in joint Nova-Neutron at 5:30pm-6:10pm on Thursday18:04
bh526r#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/1693718:04
bh526r#info Room 122/12318:04
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bh526r#info Our BrownBag talk will be 4:15pm-4:30pm on Wednesday18:05
bh526r#info Panel session (Toby, Vince, Ian, Jeff and Marco) will be 4:40pm-5:20pm Thursday18:05
bh526rno more from my side18:06
bh526ranything to share from anyone?18:06
roberttaowhat is the agenda of the brownbag?18:06
Jeffreyc42Hi Guys - Sorry I'm late18:06
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Jeffreyc42I have a question about the demo18:07
tomhambletonWhen are we going to do a dry run of the brown bag?18:07
Jeffreyc42In the lab which interface are we setting up for the traffic?18:07
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bh526rTom: sometime on Monday? or Tuesday?18:07
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tomhambletonYes, Tuesday for sure18:08
tomhambletonJeff, we are using the management interface18:09
bh526rOk, let's shoot for the 1st thing on Tuesday morning18:09
Jeffreyc42br-mgmt? - thought that was for the openstack control communications and bgp peering?18:09
Jeffreyc42are we also using this for the VM traffic as well?18:10
georgk1shouldnt we use one of the 10G interfaces on the machines?18:10
georgk1for the payload traffic18:10
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tomhambletonLet me double check18:10
Jeffreyc42thanks18:11
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bh526rRobert: BrownBag is a track in openstack for various presentations18:11
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bh526r#topic Round Table18:12
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roberttaoThanks! on ONOS+Gluon: coding is completed. In progress of test with the first version of Gluon code18:12
bh526rfeel free to share whatever you have18:12
bh526rGreat Robert18:13
bh526r#info on ONOS+Gluon: coding is completed. In progress of test with the first version of Gluon code18:13
kamal___#info Kamal Hussain18:13
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tomhambletonjeff:  My notes show that we used the Public interface for OAM and the API/Management interface for Underlay18:15
bh526r#info Team is working on coding and other preparation for summit next week18:15
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Jeffreyc42Tom: ok thanks18:17
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bh526rAny update from anyone else?18:18
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bh526rwelcome Ian18:18
tomhambletonI installed the proton-server on the Pharos lab controller18:18
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tomhambletonetcd is also installed18:19
bh526r#info Tom installed the proton-server on the Pharos lab controller18:19
bh526r#info etcd is also installed18:19
kamal___The VSD, VSC and Compute are also installed on the Pharos lab18:19
bh526r#info Kamal also installed VSD, VSC and Compute on the Pharos Lab18:20
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bh526rGreat progress18:20
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bh526r#info Niko and Ian are also working on BPs for summit18:22
bh526r#info Jin has pushed his initial draft of test plan for review18:22
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bh526rIf nothing else, I suggest to adjourn the meeting.18:23
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bh526r#info Meeting adjourned18:24
bh526rWish everyone have a safe trip and see you in Barcelona18:24
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tomhambletonIf anyone want to do interop testing in Pharos lab, let me know.  We should be ready this afternoon.18:25
kamal___Thanks!18:25
bh526rCool18:25
bh526r#endmeeting18:25
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bh526rBye all and have a safe trip18:26
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tomhambletonSee y'all in Barcelona18:26
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jinli_bye all, enjoy the summit and Barcelona18:27
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notmynameswift team meeting time21:00
notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 21:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting?21:00
ntataHello21:00
jrichlio/21:00
bkeller`o/21:00
joeljwrighthello21:00
pdardeauhi21:00
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kota_hey yo21:00
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tdasilvahi21:00
acoleshere21:01
kmARCo-21:01
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kmARCo/21:01
clayg\(^O^)/21:01
joeljwrightclayg explodes into the meeting!21:01
jrichlilol21:01
notmyname:-)21:01
mattoliverauo/21:01
notmynamewelcome everyone21:01
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notmynamejust a few things to go over this week21:02
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notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:02
notmyname#topic barcelona summit next week21:02
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notmynamesummit is next week21:02
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mattoliverau\o/21:02
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notmynameI've taken the items from the etherpad and grouped them21:02
notmynameI'm not totally happy with it yet, but I've pushed up a schedule. still is likely to be adjusted21:03
claygwow, next week - i just can't seem to wrap my head around it - it feels *so* soon21:03
notmynamebasically, here's the etherpads for the week:21:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-swift21:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-community-feedback21:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-121:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-221:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-321:03
claygi bet when the ptg shows up I'll *really* be freaked out?21:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-421:03
notmynamehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-521:03
notmynameclayg: especially since that's only 4 months away, not 621:03
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claygnotmyname: that doesn't seem nessecary21:04
mattoliverauyeah short cycle this one21:04
notmynamefirst thing to note is the ops session is part of the ops track21:04
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claygOMG look at all this stuff?21:04
joeljwrightnotmyname: I think I missed the boat on your organisation (only added a new topic to the etherpad a couple of hours ago)21:05
notmynamewe'll use the 40 min in the ops track on tuesday, and then have a "part 2" as one of our fishbowl sessions on thursday morning21:05
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notmynamejoeljwright: ok, pm it to me, and I'll make sure to address it21:05
joeljwrightcool, thanks21:05
notmynameso please try to be at the tuesday ops session21:06
notmynameour fishbowl sessions are "ops feedback (part 2)" and "community feedback"21:06
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notmynamethe community feedback one being our own retrospective for how we as a community are doing and what we need to adjust, if anything21:06
notmynamethe working sessions are arranged in blocks of time, like the last several summits21:07
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mattoliveraugreat I like that, an overflow for more ops and then just community discussion21:07
notmynameon thursday, we start with the 2 fishbowl sessions and then have 3 blocks of time (separated by breaks or lunch)21:07
notmynameit's 2+3+1 blocks of time (40 minute blocks)21:08
mattoliverauI'll be the really jetlagged guy at the ops session :P I oly arrive Monday after over 30 hours in transit21:08
notmynamethen on friday, we have scheduled time (2 chunks of 2 40 min blocks each), then lunch, then the free-form community meeting from 2-6pm21:08
notmynameso basically, ops stuff on tuesday, swift-specific stuff on thursday and friday21:09
claygw/e werx - thanks notmyname21:09
mattoliveraucools21:09
notmynamelike I said, I think I want to tweak the agenda for each block some from what I've written down (some important topics will be tricky since some people won't be there)21:09
notmynamebut in general, this is our starting point21:10
mattoliverauAnd we can obviously go add stuff (prep) to the etherpads21:10
notmynamealso, if you saw on the ML an hour so so ago, the foundation has pushed out draft versions of their logo (mascot) for each project21:10
notmynameI've got the draft version for swift, and I'll be sharing that next week21:10
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notmynameso we can give feedback. they want to have it final by the PTG in february21:11
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kota_cool21:11
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notmynameok, I think that's all I have on the summit agenda. any questions or other comments about next week21:11
jrichliin the schedule, the link is to the #2 etherpad even for some that are later21:12
notmynamethere are 3 scheduled 40 minute sessions that should link to the #2 etherpad21:12
jrichlioh, ok.21:13
kota_notmyname: added a few comments to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-swift-working-session-521:13
notmynamebut I think I added the right time blocks in the top of each etherpad21:13
notmynamekota_: thanks21:13
claygnotmyname: one benifit of not kicking ou the PTL every few months - they get sorta good at this shit21:13
jrichliok, i missed that.  will look again21:13
kota_some of my topics there but can't attend at Fri.21:13
notmynameoh, also on the #5 etherpad I added a section at the bottom for the "whole afternoon discussion stuff"21:13
kota_sorry21:13
acolescan we just meet notmyname for breakfast and follow him around each day?21:13
notmynamesince there's not a place to link to it on the schedule21:13
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notmynamekota_: good to know. yeah, I didn't work with individual schedules yet21:14
notmynameacoles: sounds good to me. :-)21:14
notmynamealso, in case you haven't been to barcelona before, the culture there is very well adjusted to typical dev schedules ;-)21:15
notmynamebreakfast is normally about 9-10am and lunch is 3-4 ish and dinner starts at 9 or 10pm21:15
notmynameunfortunately, the conference schedule doesn't really reflect that :-)21:15
mattoliverauYeah, I got hungry waiting for dinner when I was there.. thank god for tapas21:16
notmynamebut don't expect to wake up at 7 or 8 and easily find an open coffee shop to grab a pastry or anything21:16
kota_how about siesta? :-)21:16
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notmynamekota_: of course ;-)21:16
acolesnotmyname: mathiasb said on the etherpad that he's not there on friday but that's when the keymaster work is scheduled21:16
acolesafaik mathiasb is working on the keymaster21:16
claygwhy is no one hanging around on Friday?21:17
notmynameacoles: yeah, that's one thing I need to adjust for21:17
notmynameclayg: good question!21:17
kmARCAltho I haven't really worked on it yet, but I work together with mathiasb and I will be there on friday21:17
notmynameacoles: gotta do the same for kota21:17
claygnotmyname: i think we should try to make room for folks while there there21:17
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mattoliveraukmARC: you have a week to get up to speed :P21:17
acoleskmARC: great!21:17
claygi'm somewhat distressed about doing a big block of hummingbird when some of our rax players are missing21:17
notmynameclayg: yeah. eg might swap keymaster for golang stuff21:18
notmynameright. exactly what I was thinking21:18
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claygkk21:18
claygso it's good that we discussed this - notmyname will square it21:18
notmynameanything else on the summit next week?21:18
mattoliverauwe could try and at least trick nadeem into conference calling ;)21:18
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nadeemI am open to attend the conference call21:19
claygwoooo!21:19
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acolesat 9am CET?? ;)21:19
notmynamemaybe. I'm not a big fan of that, but maybe21:19
notmynameacoles: yeah, that's one reason21:19
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notmynameok, moving on to the next topic21:20
notmyname#topic big bugs and open patches21:20
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notmynamethanks for landing the EC fix!21:20
notmynameyay21:20
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claygacoles: is the bomb21:21
kota_acoles is great21:21
clayghe has other patches up too21:21
notmynamewe've got https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1624088 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376630/ to address it21:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed]21:21
claygtdasilva: has some good fixes in play too - and has been doing a bunch of great reviews - tdasilva is the bomb21:21
kota_clayg:^^21:21
acoleslike a rash21:21
claygkota_'s huge impact as well21:21
claygso many kudos!21:21
notmynameeveryone is awesome :-)21:21
notmynameso we've landed the EC corruption fix and the backports for it21:22
notmynameand I think it would be good to tag a release with this21:22
claygit was really an ssync protocol bug21:22
notmynamebut tdasilva had mentioned that https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1624088 should be fixed first21:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed]21:22
acolesnotmyname: I think we need this first, we're only half done on that bug.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38765521:22
claygbut far to easy to trigger with ec reconstruction - i feel so bad :'(21:23
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notmynameacoles: ack. that's exactly why I was bringing it up :-)21:23
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notmynameso yeah, to summarize: what's open (bugs or patches) that needs to land before we tag it for release?21:23
claygacoles: the corruption fix before the optomistic reconstructor fix21:23
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acolesnotmyname: it's different from the one you mentioned21:23
notmynameyes21:24
notmynameso finish https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387655 first21:24
claygi guess we should go ahead and make the auditor fix criticial - idk21:24
notmynameclayg: what's the bug link?21:24
acolesclayg: +1 IMHO21:24
acoleshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/163364721:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633647 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "bad fragment data not detected in audit" [High,Confirmed]21:24
claygare we really going to backport the optimistic reconstructor fix?21:24
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acolesnotmyname: ^^21:24
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notmynameclayg: do you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1624088 ?21:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed]21:25
claygyeah21:25
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claygit's weird all this stuff popped up at the same time21:26
claygi'd like to see newton have some of this fixed21:26
claygit's going to be around for awhile21:26
notmynameI'm ok with backporting it21:26
notmynamebut I agree that the corruption bug takes priority21:26
notmynameie https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/163364721:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633647 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "bad fragment data not detected in audit" [Critical,Confirmed]21:26
claygI personally haven't cut the SwiftStack Newton release *because* of these issues - we're waiting until after the summit before we start to vet the 2.10+ release21:27
claygbut i'm not sure i'm going to go back and repackage our 2.9 - folks that are running EC will just upgrade21:27
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claygbut when I saw the user survey that it's so common to use os packages - makes me think more about the official openstack releases21:28
clayg*idk* - dunno?  dunno... backport everything.  idk21:28
acolesIdeally I'd like to backport the auditor fix for bad frags to mitaka like we did the first patch21:28
acolesI do fear that backport of patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387655 is not going to be trivial tho21:29
claygacoles: what about optimistic GETS?  probably not right?  but we could backport the reconstructor fix to Newton?21:29
claygacoles: *right* - test fallout it nuts here!21:29
kota_acoles: yeah, not so trivial..21:29
notmynamewe should backport what we can, but one of the advantages of having good upgrade paths is that we don't have to backport everything21:30
acolesclayg: I'm more concerned with th auditor for newton because we know we have at least one user who needs it and wasn;t planning on upgrade from mitaka21:30
kota_my frastration is xenial still provides liberasurecode 1.1.x ... :/21:30
acoless/newton/mitaka/21:30
notmynamekota_: bah!21:30
acolesargh auditor -> mitaka21:30
acolesoptimistic reconstructor -> newton is ok with me21:30
claygacoles: ok, so well try to backport auditor as far as we can21:31
claygi have to bounce early today21:31
claygi'll async stuff later this afternoon.  i'm on tomorrow21:31
acolesclayg: k, I should have a little more time for it tomorrow21:31
acolesclayg: push anything you might get done21:32
acoleskota_: ^^21:32
notmynameto to back up just a bit and to summarize...21:32
kota_i can take a look for the new version today.21:32
kota_and also able to work tommorow21:32
notmynamehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1633647 is important and in progress. when it lands on master, we'll see what's possible to backport21:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1633647 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "bad fragment data not detected in audit" [Critical,Confirmed]21:32
notmynamehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1624088 is of seconday importance (but already has a patch with one +2) and should also land before cutting a release21:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed]21:33
notmynamesimilarly, backport as possible21:33
notmynamethen after those land, tag a release on master21:33
acolesnotmyname: good summary, agree21:33
mattoliverau+121:33
kota_k21:33
notmynameok, good :-)21:33
notmynamelast question I have about backports is patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385779/21:33
notmynamefrom cschwede21:33
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notmynameI'm not sure why this one needs to be backported. did I forget why?21:34
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tdasilvanotmyname: it's important for our downstream newton release21:34
acolesnotmyname: was this where someone in channel reported seeing huge IO in a fresh empty cluster?21:34
notmynametdasilva: ah ok. got it21:34
notmynameacoles: yeah, that's it21:35
notmynamespecifically, it seems, red hat21:35
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tdasilvayeah, has to do with the tripleo default installation21:35
clayg*huge* IO?  really?21:35
tdasilvarunning *everything* under the sun on the controller nodes21:35
claygwhere they *saveing* that IO for something else?21:35
notmynameok, I'll recheck that one because of the gate failures. then land it later21:35
claygoic21:35
claygso they *were* saving that io for something else21:36
acolesclayg: ok s/huge/non-zero/ ;)21:36
notmyname#topic open discussion21:36
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clayg*yawn*21:36
notmynameanything else to bring up this week?21:36
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notmynameobviously, there will be no meeting next week21:36
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notmynameor rather, lots of meetings, just not in IRC21:36
mattoliverau:)21:37
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acolesmattoliverau: must be about time for you to start your journey ;)21:38
* notmyname is calling it21:38
notmynamethanks everyone for working on swift21:38
mattoliverauacoles: lol, not quite but soon :)21:38
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notmynamelooking forward to seeing (most of) you next week21:38
notmyname#endmeeting21:38
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