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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. courtesy ping: thinrichs, masahito, aimeeu, ramineni_ | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 00:01:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:01 |
| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi all! hope everyone’s doing well =) | 00:02 |
| ekcs | today’s topcis are pretty basic. | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Barcelona sessions | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - PTG | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - open discussion / status | 00:02 |
| ekcs | anything else we want to talk about? | 00:02 |
| aimeeu | hi all | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: Sounds good to me | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | Cool let's dive in then. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | #topic Barcelona sessions | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | Here's our design summit schedule: #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-10-27&summit_types=10&tags=1235 | 00:04 |
| ekcs | I reached out to Vitrage PTL and they may join one of our first two sessions to talk about opportunities for congress and Vitrage services to leverage each other. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | They also invited those of us interested to join their work session where congress *may* be a topic of discussion. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17118/vitrage-work-session | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | Any thoughts or comments? | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | So right now we are expecting Adam (quotas, multi-region), and Nate (Neutron fwaas) for the first session. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | Bryan and Masahito for the second sessions as well as additional use case discussion. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | Vitrage may participate in one of them. | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | Please let me know over email or whatever if you have someone else who may want to discuss something at these sessions. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: did you ever confirm with Bryan? I never heard back about my proposed 9:50 timeslot | 00:08 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: oh I didn’t know it wasn’t confirmed. So that’s a maybe. | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | He agreed to talk, but never at a specific time | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | That's why he's under the "without confirmed time-slots" bit of the etherpad | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | I'll ping him | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: ah okay. yea that’d be helpful. thanks! | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | I see that people have been adding to the work sesions etherpad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ocata-design-summit | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | which is great. hopefully we can have thought about things and ready to make progress when we meet at the summit =) | 00:12 |
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| ekcs | #action thinrichs confirm time with bryant_att | 00:13 |
| ekcs | #action ekcs confirm time/presence with vitrage team | 00:13 |
| ekcs | Here's an etherpad where we can note down sessions/talks that are potentially interesting to Congress contributors #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-interests-barca | 00:13 |
| ekcs | any more thoughts on barcelona? | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone see the rock-climbing thread? Anyone plan on going? | 00:14 |
| aimeeu | I like my bones to remain unbroken, so no | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | :) | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | I was thinking about it, so if anyone else is interested we could go together. Just offering | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | Nothing else on barcelona for me then | 00:15 |
| ekcs | oh cool. I haven’t seen it but it sounds interesting! | 00:15 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: rock-climbing in barcelona? | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | #link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg94468.html | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: yep. indoor. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | Better link: | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105844.html | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | Not sure if we need to decide now or if we can decide that night | 00:18 |
| masahito | looks interesting. thanks. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | yea. Looks like nobody has decided on time. I guess we will figure it out. | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | based on feedback that everyone mostly thought work sessions at the PTG is a good idea if we can make it, and that most of us expect to be able to make it, we've indicated to the organizers that we expect to have work sessions at the PTG in Atlanta (Feb 20-24, 2017) | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | Please start working with your orgs and budgets to secure the trip if possible =) | 00:22 |
| ekcs | Any thoughts? | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | I am looking forward to having longer sessions to do deeper design and work and discussion. As well as more opportunity to work and interface with other teams. | 00:23 |
| njohnston | +1 | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | In the FAQ, we expect the PTG to be scheduled in a way to allow a vertical team contributor to participate in a horizontal project and vice versa. I may think about having some involvement woth oslo or QA teams. | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | Ok great let’s move on. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion / status | 00:26 |
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| ekcs | anyone have other topics or status updates? | 00:27 |
| masahito | no meeting in next week, right? | 00:28 |
| ekcs | oh right almost forgot. let's cancel IRC meeting next week cuz we'll be at the summit. | 00:29 |
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| ekcs | not to mention it would be like at midnight or something haha. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | Had a couple of questions about changesets in gerritt | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | The local HA tests…are they ready to go in? | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358927/ | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | There's a comment about changing bindep later. Does that comment pertain to newton or master? | 00:31 |
| ekcs | right I think it’s ready as soon as pep8 is cleaned up. | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | I can fixup the pep8 if that helps | 00:31 |
| ekcs | I tihnk it’s ready for master. and we can reduce the bindep.txt in future patch. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | Are we porting that to newton as well? | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | hmmm. i guess we could. may help to have more tests if we need to debug things and make changes. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | any downside? | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Any bugfix that goes into newton really should pass those tests. | 00:35 |
| ekcs | yup that makes sense. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | I was more thinking openstack rule type of downsides. but seems like the right thing to do. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | I think the cost of trying to remember to backport that patch later in case we add a bugfix is higher than the cost of adding the change to stable | 00:36 |
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| thinrichs | Tests were one of the exceptions to the critical/security fix rule of thumb | 00:37 |
| ekcs | yup that makes sense. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | Second question… | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | This patch is targeted for stable/newton, but do we think it needs to go in? | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376166/ | 00:38 |
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| thinrichs | Most of the change is renaming an internal variable. Rest seems to be forcing names to not start with underscores. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | I'm not even sure the code-change matches the commit message (anymore) | 00:40 |
| ekcs | My thinking was it may or may not go in to newton depending on whether we see issues. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | in distributed deployment, if one deletes a DS and immediately adds again, it would fail. this patch fixes that. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | I must have missed that bit | 00:41 |
| ramineni_ | I think fix for the bug is one line change ..may be we can have separate patch to fix only that | 00:41 |
| ekcs | but when we discussed it last meeting or earlier, we thought it’s not critical enough. | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | my inclination is to leave things alone and not merge it. not critical. but if we do end up needing to make the fix we can resurrect and do the minimal fix. what do you guys think? | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: I like that idea—isolate the bug fix | 00:43 |
| ekcs | +1 on isolate fix. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | if we fix it. | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone point me to the actual bug fix? Still haven't found it. | 00:44 |
| masahito | +1 for isolation idea. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | I did not register a bug for it. | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | I meant the line in that change that fixes something. Just looked again and didn't see it. | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | We can always finish this discussion in gerrit | 00:47 |
| ramineni_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376166/1/congress/dse2/dse_node.py | 00:47 |
| ramineni_ | I think removing is_valid_service check ..which does in mem | 00:48 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: right? | 00:48 |
| ekcs | at right exactly. I was having trouble remembering and finding it too. thanks | 00:48 |
| ekcs | line 721 | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | So if there's a synchronization race, and someone deletes datasource named D and then someone adds datasource named D, and the synchronizer hasn't run in between, then we would reject a valid datasource request | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | I could imagine that happening easily in HA if the user isn't pinned to an API node by the LB | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | Then again, we recommend pinning anyway. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | correct. but pinning doesn’t matter in this case. | 00:51 |
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| thinrichs | Are we not deleting the DS out of memory on the node that accepts the delete-DS call? | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | If so, I think we should merge that into newton | 00:52 |
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| thinrichs | Got to run for tonight. Thanks all! | 00:52 |
| ekcs | later thinrichs. let’s wrap up and we can finish that discussion on gerrit. | 00:52 |
| ekcs | What would be a good way for us to optionally communicate and coordinate with each other at the summit? Email? Messaging app? | 00:52 |
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| ramineni_ | Messaging app?? | 00:53 |
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| aimeeu | IRC app? | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: do you know a good one that takes care of offline messages? | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | singe at the summit we’ll probably be disconnected a lot. | 00:54 |
| aimeeu | irccloud has web and mobile apps | 00:55 |
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| ramineni_ | If works WhatsApp should be good .. ?? | 00:55 |
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| ramineni_ | Not sure everyone uses though | 00:55 |
| aimeeu | the free version has a trial with 7 days history | 00:55 |
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| aimeeu | #link http://irccloud.com | 00:56 |
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| aimeeu | the Women of OpenStack use GroupMe | 00:56 |
| ekcs | haha so many things. | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | maybe we should give irc a try singe we already use it? | 00:58 |
| aimeeu | +1 | 00:58 |
| ramineni_ | Sounds good | 00:59 |
| ekcs | well time’s up. we can finish the discussion over ML for those interested. See you all soon! | 00:59 |
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| aimeeu | See you next week! | 00:59 |
| masahito | see you next weekl | 00:59 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| eumel8 | morning | 06:57 |
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| ianychoi | hi | 07:02 |
| zzxwill | Hi ianychoi. | 07:02 |
| ianychoi | ok moment | 07:02 |
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| eumel8 | ah, hi | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 07:03:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:03 |
| zzxwill | Hi emuel8. | 07:03 |
| eumel8 | hi zzxwill | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | hi eumel8 zzxwill :) | 07:03 |
| eumel8 | hi ianychoi | 07:04 |
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| ianychoi | Although there are three, let's start | 07:04 |
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| ianychoi | #topic last meeting actions review | 07:04 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:04 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-13-13.01.html | 07:04 |
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| ianychoi | There were three actions. I merged Horizon translation result from stable-newton to master, although some strings were merged yesterday by aeng | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-October/002558.html | 07:05 |
| eumel8 | Horizon translation is merged to master | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | #info Horizon translation result from stable-newton to master has been merged! | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | Yep since there is a bug in current Zanata 3.7.3, some strings would not be still merged. | 07:06 |
| ianychoi | If then, please tell me and then I will consider merge process.. by upcoming Barcelona Design summit | 07:06 |
| ianychoi | And.. eumel8 and me attended infra meeting :) | 07:07 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, could you briefly tell meeting result? | 07:07 |
| eumel8 | yes, I've read this and Robert is taking care on it | 07:07 |
| eumel8 | yes, ianychoi | 07:07 |
| eumel8 | the meeting was on Tuesday, we presented the proposal and it seems we're on the right way because infra team would support this | 07:08 |
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| eumel8 | The proposal was accepted, I would say. | 07:08 |
| eumel8 | Now we can start with the planning phase and define the requirements | 07:09 |
| ianychoi | Yep I think so! but we need to refine infra-specs | 07:09 |
| eumel8 | or review the current requirements from the DevStack installation | 07:09 |
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| eumel8 | the new installation will based on openstack-ansible on the long running server in openstack infra | 07:10 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-os_translation-checksite | 07:11 |
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| ianychoi | Yep.. will be so nice :) Regarding this, currently I think creating a brief refine patchset to infra-specs for current translation-checksite spec with workflow -1 would be a good idea. How do you think about it, eumel8 ? Or more refining using the Etherpad would be better? | 07:11 |
| ianychoi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/translation_check_site.html | 07:11 |
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| eumel8 | I think we have to redesign the spec | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | Then, redesigning means that.. more revising to the current spec? or creating a new spec? | 07:13 |
| eumel8 | revising the chapter "Proposed Change" | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | Regarding this, I am not sure whether it will be good to change current assignees in current translation-checksite infra spec | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | or not | 07:14 |
| eumel8 | Problem description is still clear | 07:14 |
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| eumel8 | and the topic is also the same "Provide a translation check site for translators" | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | Yep I think more refining to current spec would be good | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | or we ask Daisy before. She's the Primary assignee | 07:16 |
| zzxwill | Are those Assignees there still active? | 07:16 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, currently it seems that only eumel8 is one active assignee :) | 07:16 |
| eumel8 | zzxwill: mhmm, more or less ;) | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | And me for coordination, aha and also pleia2 :) | 07:17 |
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| eumel8 | KATO? I don't know | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, are you interested in translation-checksite? | 07:17 |
| zzxwill | Okay. I am checking with Daisy whether she is available for our meeting. | 07:17 |
| zzxwill | Yes, I am interested in it:) | 07:18 |
| eumel8 | +1 | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | Oh good | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, how about changing just format in current etherpad notes according to infra-specs? | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | Then we would have more clear steps I think | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | #action eumel8 will change formats in current Etherpad according to infra-specs | 07:20 |
| eumel8 | we need also this storyboard? #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000267 | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | And me.. will think about better plans on restarting period | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | Yep storyboard! | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | I have heard that launchpad will be replaced with storyboard (but not in near plan) | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will design a translation-checksite restart and update plan with releases | 07:22 |
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| eumel8 | ok | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | Okay... | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | Since we have many things to be discussed... | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | Anyway I told zzxwill the list of Chinese documentations :) | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | Let's move to the next topic. | 07:25 |
| zzxwill | Yes, you did. | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | #topic informational | 07:25 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | #info PTG is Project Team Gathering, and the first PTG will be held on Feb 2017 | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | #info Design Summit will be replaced with "Forum" | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-October/009180.html | 07:26 |
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| ianychoi | Note that PTG is mainly for OpenStack development related things with release cycle | 07:27 |
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| ianychoi | I18n team is also quite related with PTG, but most translators will not be developers | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | thx for the link | 07:27 |
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| ianychoi | So a few i18n team members still need to go for PTG but Forum and i18n contributor meetup will continue :) | 07:28 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, are you interested in PTG? | 07:28 |
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| eumel8 | I don't know | 07:29 |
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| zzxwill | Maybe you may know a few months later:) | 07:29 |
| ianychoi | :) | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | Okay just informational | 07:30 |
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| eumel8 | yes, have to think about it | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | And.. I still don't know how the forum will be changed from current design summit, regarding i18n contributor meetup | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | I will keep my eyes on PTG and Forum event :) | 07:31 |
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| zzxwill | That's nice. | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | #topic Survey on translation plan | 07:31 |
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| eumel8 | yes, will see how it's going on | 07:31 |
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| ianychoi | Now I am considering making a survey to language coordinators and/or translators | 07:32 |
| ianychoi | Would it be useful to all? | 07:32 |
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| katomo | +1 | 07:32 |
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| ianychoi | hi katomo :) | 07:33 |
| katomo | hi | 07:33 |
| zzxwill | +1 ianychoi. | 07:33 |
| zzxwill | Hi katomo. | 07:33 |
| eumel8 | hi katomo | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | Okay.. since we don't have too much time left before Barcelona Design Summit, I will briefly make the survey with basic questions. | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | I would like to discuss survey results on Barcelona i18n contributor meetup | 07:33 |
| eumel8 | +1 | 07:34 |
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| ianychoi | Some recommend questions any one have? | 07:34 |
| ianychoi | or topics? | 07:34 |
| eumel8 | priorities ... expectations... | 07:34 |
| ianychoi | Currently, I am thinking "translation priority", "Will you participate on translations for Ocata?" | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, good idea: expectations:) | 07:35 |
| zzxwill | For translators: Are you happy if you are allowed to translation ONLY A FEW specific components in some translation stage? | 07:35 |
| zzxwill | Yes, priority. | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | Yep priority :) | 07:36 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. zzxwill! I will try to consider that:) | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | #topic Preparation on I18n contributor's meetup on Ocata Design | 07:38 |
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| zzxwill | Thx. | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | We have many topics :) | 07:39 |
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| katomo | hehe | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | And on 3-4pm, I will open virtual meeting :) | 07:39 |
| katomo | nice :) | 07:40 |
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| eumel8 | lot's of topics, yeah | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | #link http://doodle.com/poll/zny89dgs53n28y56 | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | 8 people will be likely to attend virtual meeting. | 07:41 |
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| ianychoi | And including me (Barcelona) -> total 9 people | 07:41 |
| ianychoi | Google Hangout would be good? | 07:41 |
| zzxwill | Not good in mainland China. | 07:41 |
| eumel8 | chat or voice? | 07:41 |
| eumel8 | text chat I mean | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, voice :) simutaneously I will open IRC | 07:42 |
| aeng_mobile | I will attend | 07:42 |
| aeng_mobile | Sorry, late | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | Hello aeng_mobile ! | 07:42 |
| zzxwill | Hi aeng_mobile. | 07:42 |
| aeng_mobile | Hi guys | 07:42 |
| eumel8 | voice for me is bad due the parallel meeting | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | For virtual meeting, IRC instead of voice would be better for all? | 07:42 |
| aeng_mobile | I'm fine with anything | 07:43 |
| aeng_mobile | Video, voice or irc | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | I personally prefer video :) | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | hi alex | 07:43 |
| aeng_mobile | Hi eumel8 | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | My concern is the condition of network bandwidth and tools (hangout, skype, ...) | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I think virtual meeting, we will mainly have max. about three topics | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | 1) Zanata enhancement 2) translation checksite | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | 3) open discussion | 07:45 |
| aeng_mobile | Sounds good... I guess if should be enough if bandwidth is an issue | 07:45 |
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| aeng_mobile | Irc is good enough.. | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | I would like to mainly allocate 20 mins for 1), 20 mins for 2) and other topics if other people proposed -> That was just my initial thoughts.. | 07:46 |
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| aeng_mobile | Let's roll with that for the time being.. we can adjust the time if needed | 07:46 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: when goes your flight back? | 07:46 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, Saturday afternoon | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, how about you? | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | oh good, you told me Friday | 07:47 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, aha.. that would be my arrival (Korea to Barcelona) | 07:48 |
| eumel8 | I will fly back Sunday, doing some sightseeing over the weekend | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, if you have time on Saturday, brief discussion on translation-checksite on Saturday is good to me | 07:48 |
| zzxwill | Good plan, eumel8+1 | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | Yep I will also do brief sightseeing | 07:49 |
| aeng_mobile | Guys, sorry but I gtg now. Just update me on the platform we gonna use for the meeting. | 07:49 |
| aeng_mobile | I will join in. 😃 | 07:49 |
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| eumel8 | ok, maybe to discuss later | 07:49 |
| ianychoi | Let's try to vote! | 07:49 |
| ianychoi | #startvote IRC would be the best tool for virtual meeting on Barcelona? Yes, No, Maybe | 07:50 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: IRC would be the best tool for virtual meeting on Barcelona? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Maybe. | 07:50 |
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| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | #vote no | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | Example:) | 07:50 |
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| eumel8 | #vote yes | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, katomo zzxwill please try :) | 07:50 |
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| katomo | #vote yes | 07:50 |
| katomo | although I may be in the room :) | 07:51 |
| zzxwill | #vote Maybe. But video is also cool, especially in China. | 07:51 |
| openstack | zzxwill: Maybe. But video is also cool, especially in China. is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Maybe. | 07:51 |
| zzxwill | #vote Maybe | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | yep | 07:51 |
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| zzxwill | But video is also cool, especially in China. | 07:51 |
| zzxwill | Maybe. But video is also cool, especially in China | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | #endvote | 07:51 |
| openstack | Voted on "IRC would be the best tool for virtual meeting on Barcelona?" Results are | 07:51 |
| openstack | Maybe (1): zzxwill | 07:51 |
| openstack | Yes (2): katomo, eumel8 | 07:51 |
| openstack | No (1): ianychoi | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | Yep more YES:) | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | I will reconsider. IRC will be main discussion place for virtual meeting, | 07:52 |
| eumel8 | cool | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | and if more offline people want to ask Zanata things, I will do hangout with Alex and share all results via IRC | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | Would be that fine? :) | 07:52 |
| zzxwill | Agreed. | 07:52 |
| eumel8 | +1 | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | And also for Daisy :) | 07:53 |
| zzxwill | Yep. | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | Yep then I will move the next topic | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | #Open discussions | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, I have seen your new patch | 07:54 |
| zzxwill | Are there any other topics related to i18n except the one on Oct 28? | 07:54 |
| zzxwill | I went through all those topics, but didn't see any other one. | 07:54 |
| zzxwill | Yes. | 07:54 |
| eumel8 | i have nothing else | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386672/ | 07:54 |
| katomo | nothing from me. | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, for this and related this | 07:55 |
| zzxwill | Hi katomo. | 07:55 |
| katomo | yep | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | I would suggest to you to create redirectmatch but how about using i18n blueprint? | 07:55 |
| zzxwill | Okay I will create a blueprint. | 07:56 |
| katomo | redirectmatch works for Chinese team? | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | That's because I would like to make some process for i18n-related contributions | 07:56 |
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| katomo | okya, I'm waiting the blueprint. | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, redirectmatch will address your concerns.. Am i understanding right? | 07:57 |
| zzxwill | I am not sure whether I have the authority as we have to change the properties of some files. | 07:57 |
| zzxwill | Correct! | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, yep me and katomo know how to create redirectmatch | 07:57 |
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| ianychoi | But I want to define some i18n related contribution process... | 07:57 |
| zzxwill | Great. Let me create the bp first:) | 07:57 |
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| ianychoi | It may be so simple work | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | But more visualization on i18n work, more discussions would be nice | 07:58 |
| zzxwill | Okay, that's for be willing to work me through it:) | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | That's my perspective.. and hope that more i18n contributors will contribute :) | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | have to catch the next meeting. thx to all and have a nice Summit! cu next week | 07:58 |
| zzxwill | Thanks eumel8. | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/ | 07:59 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, eumel8, katomo final question: "i18n-specs" would be good to our team? | 07:59 |
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| eumel8 | +1 | 08:00 |
| zzxwill | Yes, +1 | 08:00 |
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| katomo | +1 | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Ok.. good! Let's discuss on that more on Barcelona :) | 08:00 |
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| katomo | yeah | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Thank you for today participation all | 08:00 |
| zzxwill | Thank you ianychoi. | 08:00 |
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| ianychoi | See you Barcelona! | 08:00 |
| zzxwill | See you there. | 08:00 |
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| katomo | thanks, ianychoi, eumel8, zzxwill, aeng | 08:00 |
| katomo | see you there! | 08:01 |
| zzxwill | See you there katomo. | 08:01 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, can I finish? | 08:01 |
| ianychoi | Hmm. eumel8 is busy... :) Anyway, let's finish! If you have more discussions, let's continue on #openstack-i18n channel. | 08:02 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 08:02:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-20-07.03.html | 08:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-20-07.03.txt | 08:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-20-07.03.log.html | 08:02 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 09:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | hello, who are here today? | 09:00 |
| dmellado | o/ | 09:00 |
| gmann | dmellado: hi | 09:00 |
| gmann | let's wait for few more min | 09:00 |
| dmellado | hi gmann, I hope that there would be more than just us | 09:00 |
| dmellado | yes xD | 09:00 |
| * masayukig is read-only mode | 09:00 | |
| * dmellado kinda like that | 09:01 | |
| * dmellado needs to finish some slides for the summit too... | 09:01 | |
| gmann | hope so | 09:01 |
| gmann | dmellado: nice | 09:01 |
| dmellado | how're you doing gmann? all set for your trip? | 09:01 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:01 |
| jordanP | hi | 09:02 |
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| gmann | jordanP: hi | 09:03 |
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| tosky | hi | 09:03 |
| gmann | let's start and we can wrap up fast | 09:03 |
| gmann | tosky: hi | 09:03 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:03 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_October_20th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:03 |
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| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 09:03 |
| gmann | #topic Next Summit | 09:04 |
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| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103560.html | 09:04 |
| gmann | as we know we have 3fb 4wr room | 09:04 |
| gmann | and oomichi assigned the sessions also | 09:04 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-summit-topics | 09:05 |
| gmann | we need to prepare each sessions etherpad for discussion | 09:05 |
| gmann | I have to start mine, may be tomorrow | 09:05 |
| gmann | so request all sessions leaders to fill those | 09:06 |
| dmellado | yep, I spoke with oomichi about it yesterday, will fill asap | 09:06 |
| gmann | dmellado: great | 09:06 |
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| gmann | anything else on this? | 09:07 |
| dmellado | gmann: well, I guess I cc'ed all the interested guys | 09:07 |
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| dmellado | but I created a hangout group to keep track of this and the dinner | 09:07 |
| gmann | you replied to oomichi mail ? | 09:08 |
| dmellado | feel free to join if interested using this link | 09:08 |
| dmellado | yes | 09:08 |
| dmellado | https://hangouts.google.com/group/Nt2aSq1dzPvojrdY2 | 09:08 |
| gmann | dmellado: great, ll join | 09:08 |
| gmann | but i did not get mail seems | 09:08 |
| dmellado | let me recheck the CC | 09:08 |
| dmellado | gmann: oh, it seems you weren't on CC | 09:09 |
| dmellado | let me put you as well | 09:09 |
| gmann | ok | 09:09 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:09 | |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:10 |
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| gmann | so on spec we have mainly policy one and stable-fixtures and resource | 09:11 |
| gmann | we will be discussing the policy testing in summit | 09:11 |
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| gmann | but feel free to add review comments on those which are always helpful before discussion | 09:11 |
| gmann | tempest-resources seems in good shape | 09:12 |
| gmann | although need to review the latest version | 09:12 |
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| gmann | let's move next | 09:13 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:13 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:13 |
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| gmann | unit tests was failing on gate due to testscenario removal | 09:13 |
| gmann | jordanP: fixed is in now and gate should be fine | 09:14 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389055/ | 09:14 |
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| gmann | other review we can keep doing | 09:14 |
| * gmann need to spend more time on reviews | 09:14 | |
| gmann | Bug tracking - | 09:15 |
| gmann | #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 09:15 |
| gmann | this is something we need to cleanup and can decide in summit about bug triage strategy | 09:15 |
| gmann | we defiantly need some/group ownership on those | 09:15 |
| dmellado | +1, there are a few ones around, we can discuss that at the working sessions | 09:15 |
| tosky | a steady number of inprogress does mean that they are not really in progress | 09:15 |
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| dmellado | and I think it'd be a good thing to tackle | 09:16 |
| gmann | true | 09:16 |
| gmann | tosky: many might be with abandon patch and we might need to remove in progress tag there | 09:16 |
| gmann | anything else on bug things or tempest | 09:17 |
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| gmann | one I have is stress tests repo | 09:18 |
| gmann | #link https://github.com/ghanshyammann/tempest_stress | 09:19 |
| gmann | I am creating a separate repo for that but facing some issue on config options registration | 09:19 |
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| gmann | I do not want to use plugin in this to register only config so want separate registration for those | 09:19 |
| dmellado | gmann: do you have any review or code around? | 09:19 |
| gmann | but seems like it default all parsed tempest options | 09:20 |
| gmann | dmellado: not yet | 09:20 |
| gmann | plan is to make it run and give this as a alternate to tempest stress | 09:20 |
| dmellado | cool, I see, maybe you can put it up even on its current state so we could all have a look and collaborate | 09:20 |
| gmann | and depend of usage we can later add this into openstack repo | 09:20 |
| dmellado | let's have a chat about this at the summit in any case | 09:21 |
| gmann | dmellado: sure, that will be helpful | 09:21 |
| gmann | yea | 09:21 |
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| gmann | and other imp thing going is running tempest run workflow in gate | 09:21 |
| gmann | there is patch for that | 09:21 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355666/ | 09:22 |
| masayukig | (SUPER WIP) | 09:22 |
| gmann | masayukig: is debugging the stable branch issue | 09:22 |
| gmann | masayukig: yea :) | 09:22 |
| dmellado | also,when the stress framework is moved we'll have to change the gate too | 09:22 |
| gmann | after that it will be nice to run gate with recommended tempest workflow | 09:22 |
| gmann | dmellado: yes | 09:22 |
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| gmann | dmellado: as of now we will remove from gate also and if that gets added in openstack repo then test in gate too | 09:23 |
| dmellado | gmann: ack, sounds fine | 09:23 |
| masayukig | one thing about bug tracking, we already can see daily json files. e.g. #link http://status.openstack.org/bugday/tempest-bug-stats-daily.json but graph UI is not landed yet. | 09:23 |
| masayukig | I'm sorry for my interruption | 09:24 |
| gmann | masayukig: please go ahead | 09:24 |
| gmann | graph UI is landed means? | 09:24 |
| masayukig | I mean like this page http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ | 09:25 |
| gmann | masayukig: so current one is not correct | 09:25 |
| gmann | #link http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ | 09:25 |
| masayukig | Now, we just have json data files only. | 09:26 |
| gmann | so number on graph is fake | 09:26 |
| masayukig | fake? | 09:27 |
| gmann | masayukig: i mean dummy | 09:27 |
| gmann | like in tempest graph it shows ~50 new bug | 09:27 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:28 |
| masayukig | it's not true? | 09:28 |
| gmann | seems true | 09:29 |
| gmann | so you mean there will be more enhancement in graph there | 09:29 |
| masayukig | yeah, | 09:29 |
| gmann | masayukig: sorry for hacking your read-only mode | 09:29 |
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| gmann | i see | 09:29 |
| masayukig | there's a patch | 09:30 |
| dmellado | heh | 09:30 |
| masayukig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372581/ | 09:30 |
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| masayukig | oh, you already reviewed gmann | 09:30 |
| gmann | masayukig: ahh i +1 that. sorry forgot about that | 09:30 |
| gmann | :) | 09:30 |
| gmann | i thought that got landed | 09:30 |
| masayukig | :) | 09:30 |
| masayukig | heh | 09:30 |
| gmann | masayukig: Thanks, thats really nice | 09:30 |
| masayukig | no worries | 09:30 |
| masayukig | thanks, go ahead | 09:31 |
| gmann | any more on tempest or bugs ? | 09:31 |
| * masayukig is about to go | 09:31 | |
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| gmann | pinged on infra for +A | 09:32 |
| gmann | ok, let's move | 09:32 |
| gmann | we will skip DevStack + Grenade if nothing | 09:32 |
| masayukig | gmann: thanks :) | 09:32 |
| gmann | openstack-health too if masayukig is already gone | 09:32 |
| dmellado | masayukig: get some rest ;) | 09:32 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:33 |
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| gmann | any critical review to review on priority ? | 09:33 |
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| gmann | let's jump to open then | 09:34 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 09:34 |
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| gmann | so next week we will be meeting at barcelona | 09:34 |
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| gmann | so all have a safe and nice journey | 09:34 |
| gmann | anything else from anyone | 09:34 |
| jordanP | I'd like to proceed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380988/ (remove stress framework) asap | 09:34 |
| dmellado | same there, please do remind that there's a dinner scheduled on Thu at 20:30 if you're interested ;) | 09:35 |
| gmann | jordanP: ok, i was thinking to mention about new repo | 09:35 |
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| gmann | but that is not in work state | 09:35 |
| gmann | so i am thinking to merge your one and later to mention if needed | 09:35 |
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| dmellado | gmann: could you publish your work into some repo | 09:35 |
| dmellado | and then we can drop stress on tempest | 09:35 |
| masayukig | ah, one thing about o-h, we wrote a graph lib and started to use it now. But it's still rough. http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/ If you find a bug, please report it to the launchpad. | 09:36 |
| dmellado | I mean, even if it's not into working state yet | 09:36 |
| gmann | dmellado: #link https://github.com/ghanshyammann/tempest_stress | 09:36 |
| dmellado | we can at least point them to it | 09:36 |
| jordanP | gmann, I don't see why you are creating that new repo. Stress tests has been abandonned for months or years so why keep it alive, even somewhere else ? | 09:36 |
| masayukig | see you guys :) | 09:36 |
| dmellado | bye masayukig | 09:36 |
| dmellado | jordanP: IIRC mkoderer__ said that there were some people still using them | 09:36 |
| gmann | jordanP: plan while doing abandon was to create new repo and if any user | 09:36 |
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| dmellado | and in any case it won't hurt to have them around | 09:36 |
| gmann | yea and if user then we add that as separate repo under qa project | 09:37 |
| jordanP | well, it's up to you guys, but if people are interested, let them do the work | 09:37 |
| dmellado | but if gmann has the repo around I'd say +1 to deprecate now | 09:37 |
| gmann | masayukig: see you | 09:37 |
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| jordanP | we can't carry around to the maintenance for everybody | 09:37 |
| dmellado | and if anything is interested, have them join the effort | 09:37 |
| dmellado | wdyt about this approach? | 09:37 |
| dmellado | /s/anything/anyone | 09:37 |
| jordanP | I don't care, I just want this to be gone :) | 09:37 |
| gmann | yea but let's wait if anyone using that | 09:37 |
| gmann | in that case we should have some alternate | 09:38 |
| dmellado | jordanP: gmann | 09:38 |
| gmann | if no one use then its all safe to remove | 09:38 |
| dmellado | could you guys send an email to the ML about it? | 09:38 |
| dmellado | just in case? | 09:38 |
| jordanP | no need for alternative since nobody is using this | 09:38 |
| jordanP | we already did ! | 09:38 |
| gmann | and no need to keep anywhere | 09:38 |
| jordanP | in february | 09:38 |
| dmellado | oh, true! | 09:38 |
| gmann | well we do not know if no body use thats our assumption | 09:38 |
| jordanP | tempest code base is too big, we have areas where no one is able to review stuff | 09:39 |
| jordanP | if people want to help, find let them help | 09:39 |
| gmann | anyways thats almost ready and i do not feel any harm to maintain for some time | 09:39 |
| jordanP | *fine | 09:39 |
| dmellado | sure | 09:39 |
| gmann | jordanP: i am not saying to keep in tempest | 09:39 |
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| jordanP | it's up to you, if you find time to manage several repos and do tempest reviews, I am happy | 09:39 |
| gmann | defiantly we will remove code from tempest | 09:40 |
| gmann | jordanP: :), let's se3e | 09:40 |
| jordanP | ok then | 09:40 |
| gmann | see | 09:40 |
| gmann | so how about mentioning that repo there in reno and readme ? | 09:40 |
| gmann | i will work in parallel for its working | 09:40 |
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| gmann | so that people get to know from release note | 09:41 |
| dmellado | gmann: cool | 09:41 |
| jordanP | no, I am not mentionning this in reno | 09:41 |
| jordanP | the reno will be there for months and the other project is not even there | 09:42 |
| dmellado | jordanP: well, I think that dropping the stress framework is worth mentioning a reno | 09:42 |
| gmann | then how we will publish that we maintain a separate repo in case anyone want to use ? | 09:42 |
| dmellado | and IIRC you had that in your patch, didn't you? | 09:42 |
| jordanP | it's already in the reno | 09:42 |
| jordanP | but not the mention to the other repo | 09:42 |
| dmellado | oh, I see | 09:42 |
| jordanP | if there's interest in the other repo, then we will update the readme | 09:43 |
| gmann | anyways let's review on patch | 09:43 |
| gmann | sure | 09:43 |
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| gmann | anything else to discuss? | 09:43 |
| gmann | or we can close meeting little bit early | 09:44 |
| dmellado | I guess that'd be it for today, at least for me | 09:44 |
| gmann | ok | 09:44 |
| gmann | 3... | 09:44 |
| dmellado | safe travels everybody! see you next week! | 09:44 |
| gmann | 2.. | 09:44 |
| gmann | 1. | 09:44 |
| gmann | see you | 09:44 |
| gmann | Thanks all | 09:44 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 09:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 09:44:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:45 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 14:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | hi who is around? | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| sfinucan | o/ | 14:00 |
| * edleafe is expecting the shortest nova meeting ever | 14:00 | |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| itoader | o/ | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | ok let's run through this | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 14:01 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:01 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| mriedem | #link Draft Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| mriedem | we'll decide the full schedule at the summit next week thursday afternoon | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #topic summit planning | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Nova Ocata design summit schedule: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Nova%3A | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #link Questions for ops folks welcome for the Nova & Ops: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-nova | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #help If you are chairing a session please work on getting your agenda written in the session etherpad: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads#Nova | 14:02 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i'll probably be harassing some people about filling in their etherpads today | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | so watch out | 14:02 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | questions about the summit? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:03 |
| mriedem | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| mriedem | there are no critical bugs | 14:03 |
| mriedem | gate status | 14:03 |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:03 |
| mriedem | *is really check queue status ^ | 14:03 |
| mriedem | the pycparser release blew up the works this week, but was quickly resolved | 14:04 |
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| wznoinsk | o/ | 14:04 |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci status is pretty quiet | 14:04 |
| mriedem | vmware is moving their ci from nova-net to neutron | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | i'm assuming with nsx but haven't had that confirmed | 14:04 |
| mriedem | and no one around from vmware to confirm | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| mriedem | stable is pretty quiet | 14:05 |
| mriedem | liberty and mitaka are locked down more or less | 14:06 |
| mriedem | lyarwood is keeping stable/newton populated with backports | 14:06 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
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| mriedem | i don't think alaski had a cells v2 meeting this week | 14:06 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler meeting? | 14:06 |
| * edleafe is expecting the shortest nova meeting ever | 14:07 | |
| edleafe | oops | 14:07 |
| edleafe | damn coppy pasta | 14:07 |
| edleafe | Quick meeting. Mostly concerned with identifying the stuff we need to have ready for Barcelona discussions. | 14:07 |
| edleafe | jaypipes was missing, so not a lot of argument :) | 14:07 |
| mriedem | good to know you had that zinger planned :) | 14:07 |
| edleafe | That's it. | 14:07 |
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| edleafe | Always prepared! | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | ok i know he's in spain already | 14:08 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: live migration meeting highlights? | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | hi, status: | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | - ceph re-enablement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387836/ - almost there | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | - grenade job for live-migration: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:lm-grenade | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | reviews for grenade topic are very welcome | 14:09 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: i expect those to probably sit until after the summit | 14:09 |
| mriedem | because of QA people traveling | 14:09 |
| mriedem | might want to ping sdague about those though, he's around next week | 14:09 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: api meeting highlights? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | mostly chatted about the summit and the param validation | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | param validation wrt sort/filter parametres? | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | more generally | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yes, that too | 14:11 |
| mriedem | ok. i know there are a few api impact specs out there i've been reviewing | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i wanted dansmith to review the v3 diagnostics one | 14:11 |
| mriedem | ok thanks john, moving on | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i don't think there was an sriov/pci meeting | 14:12 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: ^? | 14:12 |
| lbeliveau | nope | 14:12 |
| wznoinsk | nope, skipped last two weeks till summit | 14:12 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:12 |
| mriedem | gibi: notifications meeting highlights? | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | maybe there wasn't a notifications meeting | 14:12 |
| mriedem | i need to update my calendar for ocata | 14:12 |
| mriedem | 3 things on notifications i guess | 14:13 |
| mriedem | 1. there are several specs up for new notifications | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | 2. several of those specs worry me about performance overhead - more on that in the dev ML | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | 3. the versioned notification transformation series - just a general reminder for reviews | 14:13 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-ocata | 14:13 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | there is nothing in the agenda | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | anyone have a stuck review they want to bring up? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: overhead due to rabbit load? or just creating objects? | 14:14 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: and db | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I am being slow today | 14:14 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: details are in the ML thread | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: OK, I will go read that | 14:14 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/106120.html | 14:15 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:15 | |
| mriedem | 2 items in the agenda | 14:15 |
| mriedem | (claudiub): Specless blueprint for PCI passthrough support in the hyper-v driver: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-pci-passthrough | 14:15 |
| claudiub|2 | o/ | 14:15 |
| mriedem | i asked claudiub|2 to bring that up in the sriov/pci meeting, but the next one is after the summit | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i'm ok with a specless blueprint on that since it's feature parity | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | i would like lbeliveau, wznoinsk, sfinucan, moshele and others to take a look though | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | as usual my main concern is CI coverage | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | claudiub|2: what's the plan for CI testing that? | 14:16 |
| claudiub|2 | that is a bit trickier | 14:16 |
| claudiub|2 | that is a windows server 2016 feature, and we have 2012 r2 in the ci | 14:17 |
| mriedem | it would have to be a separate job | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | i'd suggest talking to moshele, lbeliveau and wznoinsk about how the libvirt stuff is tested with the mellanox and intel nfv CIs | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | the intel pci ci uses custom tests i believe | 14:17 |
| mriedem | with a tempest plugin | 14:17 |
| mriedem | anyway, that's my only reservation | 14:18 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: you ok with specless bp on that one? | 14:18 |
| claudiub|2 | interesting. will talk about them about the tests | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its got minimal wide impact, so that seems OK | 14:18 |
| mriedem | agreed | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | FWIW, I think reno really helps us here these days | 14:18 |
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| claudiub|2 | as far as the ci goes, afaik, we'll have 2016 nodes when it is released | 14:19 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: reno as a replacement for ci testing? :) | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | "new feature, it's untested, buyer beware!" | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: heh, I wish that were possible, I mean worrying about specs for documenting the new feature from the user point of view | 14:19 |
| mriedem | yeah i wasn't thinking about the docs for it really | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, true, I want that to be feature classification I guess | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i don't think reno replaces docs fwiw | 14:20 |
| mriedem | and we lean on reno too heavily for that | 14:20 |
| mriedem | but i digress | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | very true, but specs aren't really ops docs either | 14:20 |
| claudiub|2 | will talk with the hyper-v ci if we can do it any time earlier | 14:20 |
| mriedem | it's like we need a...docs team or something | 14:20 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:20 |
| mriedem | (claudiub): Specless blueprint for the continuation of Hyper-V BDM support: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-block-device-mapping-support-ocata | 14:20 |
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| claudiub|2 | yeah. the blueprint only has 2 patches that remained from the previous cycle | 14:21 |
| claudiub|2 | and they are small | 14:21 |
| mriedem | that bp always seemed to do too much in it for me | 14:21 |
| mriedem | b/c it also had device tagging in it for newton i think | 14:21 |
| mriedem | or part of that | 14:21 |
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| claudiub|2 | the device tagging was on top of it | 14:22 |
| mriedem | claudiub|2: can we split that into 2 bps and work them separately, but otherwise i'm +2 on the specless bp for those | 14:22 |
| mriedem | they are separate features | 14:22 |
| claudiub|2 | sure | 14:22 |
| claudiub|2 | will do | 14:22 |
| mriedem | thanks, split them up and hit me up in -nova and i'll approve | 14:22 |
| claudiub|2 | ok, ty! | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok anything else for open discussion? | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | alright, that's it then. thanks everyone, see some of you next week. safe travels. | 14:23 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 14:23:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-20-14.00.html | 14:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-20-14.00.txt | 14:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-20-14.00.log.html | 14:23 |
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| rtheis | Hi, anyone here for networking-ovn meeting? | 17:58 |
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| russellb | hi rtheis | 17:59 |
| rtheis | hi russellb | 17:59 |
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| rtheis | #startmeeting networking_ovn | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 18:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rtheis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn' | 18:00 |
| rtheis | #topic Announcements | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:00 | |
| rtheis | Initial summit topics have been added to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-ovn-ocata-summit for the networking-ovn working session. | 18:00 |
| rtheis | Feel free to add to the list | 18:00 |
| numans | hi | 18:01 |
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| russellb | hm, more bugs open than i realized on these topics | 18:01 |
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| rtheis | Yes, more than I realized as well before I started digging into the list. | 18:01 |
| rtheis | Also, I plan to cancel next weeks meeting if that's okay. | 18:02 |
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| russellb | yes | 18:02 |
| russellb | i think our in-person meeting will suffice as a replacement :) | 18:02 |
| rtheis | sounds good :) | 18:03 |
| russellb | do we know what room this session will be in? | 18:03 |
| russellb | oh i see you have a link to the schedule | 18:03 |
| rtheis | Yes | 18:03 |
| rtheis | Anything else for announcements? | 18:03 |
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| rtheis | #topic Bugs | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:04 | |
| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1629099 | 18:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629099 in networking-ovn "OVS transaction mutate clears column data within transaction" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:05 |
| rtheis | Amitabha's fix merged to ovs python master | 18:05 |
| rtheis | And it looks like we'll get ovs 2.6.1 soon. | 18:05 |
| russellb | 2.6.1 should be very soon | 18:05 |
| rtheis | nice | 18:05 |
| russellb | someone raised a bug fix they wanted in first | 18:05 |
| russellb | justin is ready to do 2.6.1 asap after that, so it could be today or tomorrow | 18:05 |
| rtheis | excellent, then we can push that through OpenStack requirements and have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387601/ ready to go | 18:06 |
| rtheis | I was planning to follow that up with a complete move to mutate transactions | 18:06 |
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| numans | rtheis, russellb we haven't switched to using ovs lib from master for networking-ovn master right ? | 18:06 |
| rtheis | right now we have dual paths depending on ovs version | 18:06 |
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| rtheis | numans: we are using ovs master only with ovs python version in requirements | 18:07 |
| russellb | hm, can't see patch, gerrit went boom | 18:07 |
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| numans | rtheis, ok. i didn't notice that. thanks | 18:08 |
| rtheis | numans: as long as we can get ovs python releases for critical fixes, then we don't need master. | 18:08 |
| rtheis | but we'll have to see if that becomes a problem | 18:09 |
| russellb | yeah, there will be some delay | 18:09 |
| russellb | since it requires doing a full ovs release | 18:09 |
| russellb | not just python | 18:09 |
| numans | till then the release will be .dev release right ? | 18:09 |
| numans | i mean in the pypi | 18:09 |
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| russellb | we can, yes | 18:09 |
| russellb | but pip won't install those by default | 18:09 |
| rtheis | correct | 18:09 |
| rtheis | numans: we have the ability to use https://github.com/openstack/networking-ovn/blob/master/devstack/lib/networking-ovn#L70 | 18:10 |
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| rtheis | but we'd need more than OVN_INSTALL_OVS_PYTHON_MODULE to make that work for unit and functional tests | 18:11 |
| russellb | ah, right | 18:11 |
| numans | rtheis, yes we have it. | 18:11 |
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| rtheis | that only works for tempest and maybe grenade | 18:11 |
| rtheis | anyway, something to keep an eye on going forward should the need arise. | 18:12 |
| numans | agree | 18:12 |
| rtheis | any other bugs to discuss? | 18:12 |
| numans | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1612403 | 18:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612403 in neutron "Cannot filter OVSDB columns, only tables" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Omer Anson (omer-anson) | 18:13 |
| numans | we can keep an eye on it. | 18:13 |
| numans | and see if we can use it in networking-ovn if required | 18:13 |
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| rtheis | numans: I just looked at that today | 18:14 |
| rtheis | because it caused a rebase conflict for a change I was working: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358801/ | 18:14 |
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| rtheis | We want to skip the set-manager call in networking-ovn | 18:14 |
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| rtheis | Here's the networking-ovn change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364405/ | 18:14 |
| numans | ok | 18:15 |
| rtheis | I'm planning to rebase and use that. We can further leverage that support for performance gains | 18:15 |
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| numans | yes. once the other patches are merged related to column filtering | 18:16 |
| rtheis | right | 18:17 |
| numans | i guess we can move on with next topic | 18:17 |
| rtheis | #topic Reviews | 18:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:17 | |
| rtheis | NAT support (SNAT, FloatingIP): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/ | 18:17 |
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| rtheis | Chandra should hopefully have that rebased and cleaned up today | 18:18 |
| rtheis | and also... | 18:18 |
| rtheis | Assessment for networking-ovn: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383912/ | 18:19 |
| russellb | great, looking forward to merging the NAT patch | 18:19 |
| rtheis | me too | 18:19 |
| russellb | rtheis: thanks for jumping on that assessment too | 18:19 |
| russellb | seems to have gone fine? | 18:19 |
| rtheis | networking-ovn received a good assessment so far | 18:19 |
| rtheis | yes | 18:19 |
| numans | yay | 18:19 |
| russellb | mainly, do more with neutron-lib? | 18:19 |
| rtheis | Yes | 18:20 |
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| rtheis | and continue with expanding test coverage | 18:20 |
| russellb | yes, all reasonable feedback | 18:20 |
| rtheis | I think we will be in good shape for Ocata. | 18:20 |
| rtheis | That's all I have for reviews ... anything else? | 18:21 |
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| numans | nothing from me | 18:21 |
| russellb | we hit everything on my mind at the moment | 18:22 |
| rtheis | cool | 18:22 |
| rtheis | #topic Open Discussion | 18:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:22 | |
| rtheis | Anything final items for today? | 18:23 |
| russellb | rtheis: thanks for running the meeting | 18:23 |
| numans | nothing from me. looking forward for the summit | 18:23 |
| rtheis | yw russellb | 18:23 |
| numans | +1 | 18:23 |
| rtheis | see you at the summit | 18:24 |
| rtheis | I leave tomorrow. My wife is traveling with so we'll have a few days before to enjoy Spain. | 18:24 |
| rtheis | bye guys | 18:24 |
| rtheis | #endmeeting | 18:24 |
| numans | cool. have a nice time | 18:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 18:24:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:24 |
| numans | bye | 18:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-20-18.00.html | 18:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-20-18.00.txt | 18:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-20-18.00.log.html | 18:24 |
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| armax | yello | 21:58 |
| armax | ah no | 21:58 |
| armax | ahoy | 21:58 |
| dasm | o/ | 22:00 |
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| dasanind_ | o/ | 22:00 |
| armax | hello | 22:00 |
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| armax | anyone outta there? | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | kinda | 22:00 |
| armax | carl_baldwin, amuller, ihrachys, kevinbenton, HenryG, amotoki | 22:00 |
| armax | ihrachys: I can make this quick for you | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i thought you canned this meeting?!?! | 22:01 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 20 22:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: next one | 22:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:01 |
| armax | kevinbenton: next week's | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | ah | 22:01 |
| armax | that’s ok | 22:01 |
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| armax | if your mindset is already at the summit we can have a short sync | 22:01 |
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| armax | right now the bulky of my energy is going into reviewing/revising the stadium | 22:02 |
| armax | the list of open current assessments is available at the following link | 22:03 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs+branch:master+topic:stadium-implosion | 22:03 |
| njohnston | o/ | 22:03 |
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| ihrachys | armax: what's the plan for merging them? | 22:03 |
| armax | I also started the shutdown procedure for neutron-pd-driver | 22:03 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:retire-neutron-pd-driver | 22:03 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:retire-neutron-pd-driver | 22:03 |
| armax | ihrachys: I am glad you ask | 22:03 |
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| armax | my current line of thinking is the following | 22:04 |
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| armax | I was going to summarize the assessments in yet another (short) document | 22:05 |
| armax | a side-by-side comparison if you will | 22:05 |
| armax | that side | 22:06 |
| armax | I think the assessments so far have unvelied a number of gaps across the board | 22:06 |
| armax | while some gaps are more grave than others | 22:06 |
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| armax | I think it would be reasonable to decide collectively to let some projects go out of the stadium only if a subset of the criteria have no chance of completion by the first milestone of the current cycle | 22:07 |
| armax | which is the week of Nov 14 | 22:07 |
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| armax | tasks must not finish by the deadline but they must be started and show meaningful progress by then | 22:08 |
| njohnston | currently the answers to criteria are expressed as a binary true/false; will they change to show items in progress? | 22:09 |
| armax | the links attached to each criterion section should help depict a more complete picture | 22:10 |
| armax | njohnston: and I’ll plan to refresh the assessment patches on an ongoing basis | 22:10 |
| armax | until the deadline | 22:10 |
| armax | but I’ll ask people to kindly to avoid nit-picking | 22:11 |
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| armax | because refreshing 10+ assessment is a pain I am willing to endure only if there’s something grossly captured | 22:11 |
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| armax | as for the subset of must haves | 22:12 |
| armax | I intend to include | 22:12 |
| armax | OSC bindings | 22:12 |
| armax | so L1 | 22:12 |
| armax | S1 | 22:13 |
| armax | all of the R? requirements | 22:13 |
| armax | C1, C2, C3 (db migration validation where it applies), a gating and stable C5 | 22:14 |
| armax | and C8 | 22:14 |
| armax | D1, D2, D3 | 22:15 |
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| armax | and naturally all of the N? criteria | 22:15 |
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| armax | C5 is key to ensuring that moving APIs into neutron-lib does smoothly and can be validated, for those projects that expose APIs | 22:16 |
| armax | the patch that shows how that takes place is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353131/ | 22:17 |
| armax | I will assist the various projects in the review process, and I’ll proceed over the course of the cycle to move the neutron in-tree APIs over too | 22:17 |
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| armax | once that’s done, the stadium evolution effort can be considered officially complete | 22:18 |
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| njohnston | So just to be clear, stadium projects won't contain their own api definitions anymore, they will live in neutron-lib? That is not something I realized before now. | 22:19 |
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| armax | njohnston: yes, and wow! | 22:19 |
| armax | njohnston: that’s been something I advertsized from day 0 | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | not very well :) | 22:19 |
| armax | being part of the stadium for a project means giving up their control over the API | 22:19 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: can’t help people if they skim documents while reading :) | 22:20 |
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| ihrachys | people were too busy to struggle for their place inside | 22:20 |
| armax | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/neutron-stadium.html#when-is-a-project-part-of-the-stadium | 22:20 |
| armax | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/neutron-stadium.html#how-do-we-build-a-networking-community | 22:21 |
| armax | though we settled with neutron-lib rather than creating yet another project repo | 22:21 |
| armax | comments? Thoughts? Virtual rotten tomatos? | 22:23 |
| armax | tomatoes? | 22:23 |
| njohnston | Do api tests also move into neutron-lib as well, then? | 22:23 |
| armax | njohnston: no | 22:23 |
| njohnston | ok | 22:23 |
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| armax | for a reason | 22:24 |
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| njohnston | that makes sense to me, but I just wanted to be sure :-) | 22:24 |
| armax | if we did that, we can accidentally merge nn bw compatible changes | 22:24 |
| armax | and we want to make sure that doesn’t happen | 22:24 |
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| njohnston | indeed | 22:25 |
| armax | so we have 3 weeks, summit one included | 22:25 |
| armax | to make sure that the must have’s are well underway | 22:26 |
| armax | for those projects that don’t ACK | 22:26 |
| armax | they are being let go | 22:26 |
| dasm | question about api part in neutron-lib, but i'd like to hear confirmation/denial. subprojects are allowed to move their apis, during release cycle, without any objections? to prepare for future inclusion? | 22:26 |
| armax | dasm: at this point we’ll have a quick pass/amnesty | 22:27 |
| armax | dasm: but of those that have APIs I can only see midonet, bgpvpn, and sfc | 22:27 |
| armax | because I think l2gw is on track for removal | 22:28 |
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| armax | as well as vpnaas | 22:28 |
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| dasm | ok, ack | 22:28 |
| ihrachys | armax: fwaas? | 22:28 |
| armax | and a few others that have no APIs | 22:28 |
| armax | ihrachys: fwaas has 3 more weeks to tick all the must haves | 22:28 |
| armax | if they do, great | 22:28 |
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| armax | if they don’t | 22:28 |
| armax | well, you know the answer | 22:29 |
| armax | ihrachys: or are you referring to something else in particular? | 22:29 |
| ihrachys | merely saying that you haven't mentioned fwaas while it may be in ;) | 22:30 |
| njohnston | :-) | 22:30 |
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| armax | I didn’t mention it because the API was agreed and merged in neutron-specs | 22:30 |
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| armax | with this effort we would have shrank the stadium to | 22:31 |
| armax | ~6 projects neutron/neutron-lib/neutron-specs excluded | 22:31 |
| armax | and that’s something a single PTL with his valiant knights can manage well | 22:32 |
| armax | and that can give us some headroom for growth | 22:32 |
| mfranc213 | or her :) | 22:32 |
| armax | mfranc213: yes, indeed | 22:32 |
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| armax | I would love for the individual assessment to be done and merged by next week’s end | 22:34 |
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| armax | or in the early days of the week after the summit | 22:34 |
| ihrachys | do you get enough reviews to proceed? | 22:35 |
| armax | I did get feedback from the people I expected | 22:35 |
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| armax | for the feedback I didn’t get | 22:35 |
| armax | well | 22:35 |
| armax | that’s feedback too ;) | 22:35 |
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| ihrachys | especially if it's lack of feedback from project owners I guess | 22:36 |
| armax | correct | 22:36 |
| armax | mostly were pretty responsive | 22:36 |
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| armax | one project which I fear might be on the way to its demise right off its infancy | 22:36 |
| armax | is dynamic-routing | 22:36 |
| armax | but we can cross that bridge when we get to it | 22:37 |
| armax | I am unclear at this point who the core go-to people are | 22:38 |
| amuller | armax: do you think we should organize a working session at the summit and do live reviews of your patches? | 22:38 |
| armax | amuller: there’s a stadium session I reserved | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | armax: vikram? | 22:38 |
| amuller | ack | 22:38 |
| armax | ihrachys: yes, vikram but again it can’t be a one man gig | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | he seems like the only person showing up | 22:38 |
| armax | amuller: though we have the Friday too | 22:38 |
| amuller | yeah I was thinking about Friday | 22:38 |
| armax | which I personally going to be available all day | 22:38 |
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| armax | I have been in Barcelona like 10 times, I don’t need any sightseeing | 22:39 |
| armax | :) | 22:39 |
| armax | though I wouldn’t mind doing the reviews at a caffee in plaza major | 22:39 |
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| armax | which actually is in Madrid, so never mind ;) | 22:39 |
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| armax | comment/questions? | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | armax: perhaps you do need some sight seeing | 22:41 |
| armax | kevinbenton: we’ll see | 22:42 |
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| armax | ok folks | 22:42 |
| armax | if there’s nothing else | 22:42 |
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| dasanind_ | There are 2 rfe's that need inputs | 22:43 |
| armax | I’ll leave you to it, and I wish you a safe and uneventful journey for those of you who go to the summit | 22:43 |
| dasanind_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1633280 | 22:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633280 in neutron "[RFE]need a way to disable anti-spoofing rules and yet keep security groups" [Undecided,Opinion] - Assigned to Rui Zang (rui-zang) | 22:43 |
| dasanind_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634798 | 22:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634798 in neutron "[RFE] Qos DSCP to vlan priority mapping" [Undecided,New] | 22:43 |
| armax | dasanind_: RFEs are low priority right now | 22:43 |
| ihrachys | dasanind_: note Ocata is low on features | 22:43 |
| armax | we’ll get to them when we get to them | 22:43 |
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| dasanind_ | armax: makes sense. Should they be marked as wishlist or leave them undecided | 22:44 |
| armax | dasanind_: RFEs are by definition wishlist | 22:45 |
| armax | if they are not confirmed leave them alone until a member of the drivers team get a pass at them | 22:45 |
| dasanind_ | armax: thank you | 22:45 |
| armax | ok | 22:46 |
| armax | good bye! | 22:46 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:46 |
| amuller | tata | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 22:46 |
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| kevinbenton | bye | 22:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 20 22:46:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-20-22.01.html | 22:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-20-22.01.txt | 22:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-20-22.01.log.html | 22:46 |
| dasm | have fun at summit fols | 22:46 |
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| dasm | *folks | 22:46 |
| dasanind_ | bye | 22:47 |
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