12:00:50 <tonyb> #startmeeting requirements
12:00:51 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Oct 19 12:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:00:55 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
12:01:03 <tonyb> #topic rollcall
12:01:15 <coolsvap> o/
12:01:16 <tonyb> Who's here?
12:01:31 <prometheanfire> o/
12:01:44 <tonyb> \o/
12:02:13 <tonyb> number80, dirk,  toabctl ?
12:03:57 <tonyb> Give them 90seconds more ....
12:04:22 <tonyb> #topic Meeting poll
12:04:34 <tonyb> coolsvap: did I drop the ball there?
12:04:49 <tonyb> coolsvap: I'm not 100% certain where we got to with the doodle poll
12:04:53 <toabctl> hi
12:05:10 <tonyb> toabctl: hi
12:05:21 <coolsvap> Tony
12:05:29 <coolsvap> tonyb: let me check
12:06:03 <dirk> o/
12:06:04 <prometheanfire> I should probably update that, as I have times open even earlier
12:06:27 <prometheanfire> after the dst changes I can go one hour earlier still
12:07:08 <coolsvap> 1000 & 1100 utc seems to be working for 4 people
12:07:54 <dirk> share the link again=
12:07:59 <dirk> please?
12:09:11 <coolsvap> tonyb: do not see your vote
12:10:09 <tonyb> coolsvap: okay so I did drop the ball
12:10:38 <tonyb> coolsvap: Can you drop the link here
12:11:18 <tonyb> Ahh I found it
12:11:21 <tonyb> #link http://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts
12:11:47 <coolsvap> Wait I'm on mobile
12:11:55 <coolsvap> Oh good
12:12:51 <coolsvap> Same times seem to work for everyone
12:13:22 <tonyb> okay so 1000 or 1100 UTC seem okay for most people.  Can I just pick 1000am UTC does that work for most people after local DST changes?
12:13:33 <dirk> +1
12:13:59 <toabctl> +1
12:14:15 <prometheanfire> updated, I can do 2PM local as well
12:14:44 <prometheanfire> but yes, that times is fine too
12:14:46 <prometheanfire> +1
12:14:50 <tonyb> coolsvap: IIUC you don't DST
12:15:18 <coolsvap> tonyb: yes no dst
12:15:32 <tonyb> okay so I think 1000 is the new meeting time.
12:15:42 <coolsvap> Works for me
12:15:49 <prometheanfire> kk
12:16:02 <prometheanfire> when will that go into effect?
12:16:14 <tonyb> We'll skip next week because summit so in 14days from now we'll meet 2 hours earlier
12:16:22 <prometheanfire> kk
12:16:39 <tonyb> Nov 2nd?
12:17:06 <dirk> tonyb: will you do the review with the adjusted time?
12:17:12 * dirk wants to +1 it
12:17:26 <tonyb> Thanks everyone.  We'll have this discussion again in 6moths when everyone does the opposite DST chnage
12:17:43 <tonyb> dirk: if you do the review I can +2 it ;P
12:17:59 <dirk> deal!
12:18:10 <tonyb> dirk: #winning
12:18:16 <coolsvap> Hopefully we have more participation in the poll then :)
12:18:39 <tonyb> :)
12:18:52 <tonyb> okay ...
12:18:56 <tonyb> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
12:19:04 <tonyb> . gunicorn
12:19:41 <prometheanfire> it sounds like they have gunicorn as a runtime dep in their code
12:19:46 <prometheanfire> which complicates maters
12:20:00 <dirk> tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/388662
12:20:15 * dirk hasn't fully read the mail thread yet
12:20:29 <dirk> runtime or testing dep?
12:20:37 <tonyb> Yeah I need to see the code.  for that.  my take is it's a dependancy for the reference implementation but a deployer could use anything?
12:20:48 <dirk> I'm personally fine with adding it although it is probably a debate about the "is this functionality already provided elsewhere" topic
12:21:24 <prometheanfire> tonyb: that's not how I understand it (or how it's being presented), I'd just ask in the bug
12:21:32 <dirk> I'd certainly be happer to draw a line and have it outside the line. and I understood there was someone saying "I'm not entirely vetoing it not being in g-r"
12:21:35 <tonyb> prometheanfire: bug?
12:21:48 <prometheanfire> review, sorry, gentoo language
12:22:31 <dirk> lol
12:23:21 <tonyb> dirk: yeah there are a lot os weakly held weak opinions which makes it hard to come to consensus
12:23:59 <dirk> I personally don#t have the time this week to spend the research on it
12:24:05 <prometheanfire> ya, I'm still not sure why not pecan
12:24:27 <prometheanfire> either do I, my next two weeks are very full to overflowing...
12:24:31 <tonyb> prometheanfire: they don't like it?
12:24:46 <tonyb> prometheanfire: IIRC it's too bg for a service VM
12:25:02 <prometheanfire> ya, that was what I gathered
12:25:45 <prometheanfire> I don't really see how that's the case though (it's not that big)
12:26:14 <prometheanfire> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386758/12/octavia/cmd/agent.py
12:26:19 <prometheanfire> that's how they are using it
12:27:31 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Thanks.  I just asked for that on list .... so now I'll go back cap in hand
12:28:06 <prometheanfire> :D
12:28:25 <prometheanfire> it's a long thread
12:29:26 <tonyb> okay so please review the thread and then +/- vote on the review
12:29:29 <tonyb> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386790/
12:30:18 <prometheanfire> k
12:32:58 <prometheanfire> next?
12:33:18 <tonyb> ... sorry I was looking at the meeting review
12:33:24 <tonyb> dirk can you respin?
12:33:54 <tonyb> Any other controversies?
12:34:54 <dirk> tonyb: done
12:35:26 <tonyb> I'm going to skip Tasks from Etherpad
12:35:33 <dirk> ohhh
12:35:36 <tonyb> #topic Open Discussion
12:35:36 <dirk> I have an update :)
12:35:52 <tonyb> dirk: for the tasks?
12:35:55 <dirk> the check-uc job is now voting
12:36:05 <tonyb> \o/
12:36:11 <prometheanfire> if it's fine with people I'll be +2+W the oslo changes and rebasing today (most likely)
12:36:13 <tonyb> dirk: Awesoem work
12:36:22 <dirk> so I'd move that one done..
12:36:33 <prometheanfire> dirk: ah, right :D
12:36:34 <tonyb> dirk: please do the honnors :)
12:36:36 <prometheanfire> doubleplusgood
12:37:36 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Sure go nuts on the oslo u-c chnages
12:37:59 <dirk> prometheanfire: If you can do an inital pass I can do the 2nd review
12:38:05 <dirk> I don't have time for the initial pass righ tnow
12:38:39 <prometheanfire> k
12:40:43 <tonyb> any else to discuss openly?
12:41:46 <prometheanfire> non
12:42:05 <tonyb> okay I have something ... less discusion more request ....
12:42:59 <tonyb> If you have any feedback on how I'm doing as a PTL or how we're doign as a team (good or bad) I really encourage you to reach out and let me know.
12:43:20 <prometheanfire> you good bro
12:43:22 <tonyb> I can't promise I will chnage but I can promise to listen and try
12:43:59 <tonyb> prometheanfire: I'd reply in kiwi but it may not translate ;p
12:44:09 <tonyb> so with that if there is nothgin else?
12:44:48 <tonyb> Thanks everyone
12:44:55 <tonyb> #endmeeting