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| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 13:02:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 13:02 |
| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 13:02 |
| ttx | Agenda for today at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management | 13:02 |
| ttx | #topic Liberty release coordination | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty release coordination (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:02 | |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-final-release | 13:02 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 13:03 |
| ttx | So... We are a bit late | 13:03 |
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| dhellmann | :-( | 13:03 |
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| ttx | Chasing libs takes more time than expected, and FFEs are still up | 13:03 |
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| dims__ | o/ | 13:04 |
| ttx | Let's have a look one thing at a time | 13:04 |
| ttx | Oslo libs are all released and branches now | 13:04 |
| ttx | branched* | 13:04 |
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| dhellmann | congrats, dims__ ! | 13:04 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: Other libs... what's the status now ? | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | some of the constraints for those libs need to be updated by landing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223596/ | 13:04 |
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| dhellmann | it sounds like zaqarclient needs a release, based on the recent discussion in #openstack-relmgr-office | 13:05 |
| dims__ | dhellmann: should we push out os-client-config and land that to upper constraints too? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225520/ | 13:05 |
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| * dhellmann looks for the pastebin with unreleased lib changes | 13:05 | |
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| ttx | dhellmann: which libs are still in a state where we can't even create the liberty branch ? I don't really mind if they do another point release before final | 13:06 |
| dhellmann | I had a list, but I've lost the link, just a sec | 13:07 |
| ttx | Other question, can we cut RC1s / stable branches for services /before/ we have the stable branches for all libs ? Apart from triggering a RC2 for the constraints bump when the "final" libs are in... any drawback ? | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | well, to start, anything on that list starting line 73 of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-final-release since those constraints are out of date | 13:07 |
| dhellmann | but when we land that patch, all constraints will be updated | 13:08 |
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| ttx | I'm fine with merging it with dims+1 | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll do that right after the meeting | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | we need to do the os-client-config release and bump its constraint, as dims__ pointed out | 13:08 |
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| ttx | I'll approve it now based on lifeless previous approval | 13:09 |
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| dhellmann | found it! | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/469795/ | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | etoomanytabs | 13:09 |
| dims__ | haha | 13:09 |
| ttx | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/223596 approved | 13:09 |
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| dhellmann | python-designateclient has quite a few changes unreleased | 13:10 |
| dhellmann | (line 568) | 13:11 |
| ttx | novaclient might want one too | 13:11 |
| ttx | (672) | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we just got one from them I thought | 13:11 |
| ttx | neutronclient / zaqarclient | 13:11 |
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| dhellmann | the zaqar team is going to request one today | 13:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: should we block RC1s on getting all the stable/liberty branches for libs ? | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | neutronclient just requested one, too | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | that's odd | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | ttx: hmm, I'm not sure. I don't think that's necessary, but I also think we can sort out the libs today. | 13:12 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: ok, let's wait until eod then | 13:13 |
| ttx | and start tagging/branching services tomorrow | 13:13 |
| dhellmann | does the plan call for that, though? | 13:13 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 13:13 |
| ttx | the plan dates kind of hint to that. | 13:13 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: so you plan to have all/most libs with stable branches and converged constraints in by EOD ? | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | yes, that's the goal | 13:15 |
| ttx | OK. I'll have my hands full chasing down FFEs and RC1s | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:15 |
| ttx | I'll have to put the hammer down on FFEs, PTLs have been a bit too tolerant about those | 13:16 |
| ttx | I guess that's the downside of no longer requiring release management control over them | 13:16 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, we'll get better at that, I'm sure | 13:16 |
| ttx | If we manage to close FFEs and get all libs done today, we are back on track | 13:17 |
| ttx | track being: tagging RC1s starting this week | 13:17 |
| ttx | questions on liberty final release plan ? | 13:17 |
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| ttx | I'll take that as a no | 13:18 |
| ttx | #topic stable/liberty point releases plan | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | I think that's all clear. release and branch remaining libs today; start tagging projects tomorrow | 13:18 |
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| ttx | So, I wanted to discuss what's left to do to enable stable/liberty past release day | 13:19 |
| ttx | there were two chnages: | 13:19 |
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| ttx | stable point releases: we'll be tagging on-demand | 13:19 |
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| ttx | since we could not get alignment on tagging every commit, that's an intermediary solution | 13:19 |
| * dhellmann notes the designate team reports their gate is wedged | 13:19 | |
| dhellmann | that makes sense | 13:20 |
| ttx | we haven't communicated that much about that fallback plan, though. and Mitaka PTLs will need to know about it | 13:20 |
| dhellmann | no coordinated synchronized milestones, though? | 13:20 |
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| dhellmann | I expect a long "here is how releases will work during mitaka" email thread for right after the summit | 13:21 |
| ttx | How about we send newly elected Mitaka PTLs a release management update so that they are up to speed with recent changes ? We can draft the content this week | 13:21 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 13:21 |
| ttx | The second part is reno | 13:21 |
| ttx | We kinda want people to start using that ASAP once the release barnch turns into the stable branch | 13:21 |
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| ttx | we should start communicating about that too | 13:22 |
| ttx | before release | 13:22 |
| ttx | (not necessarily today) | 13:22 |
| ttx | Any other things we ned to do before release/summit on that front ? | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I want to get that sphinx integration landed and then write some docs for how to use it | 13:22 |
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| ttx | #action ttx & dhellmann to draft a Mitaka release management update for Mitaka PTLs to read next week | 13:23 |
| dhellmann | did we decide not to worry about having the release notes in the tarball? | 13:23 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: we decided not to worry right now | 13:23 |
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| ttx | I still think that would be a good addition, but we haven't those right now | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | ok, sounds good | 13:24 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: ping me if you need help landing those last reno changes / preparing reno doc for before final release | 13:24 |
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| ttx | anything else on this topic ? | 13:25 |
| dhellmann | ttx: if we don't need the tarball thing, I just need the existing patches to land for now. Docs still have to be written. | 13:25 |
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| dhellmann | I think that's it | 13:25 |
| ttx | #topic Mitaka cycle-with-milestones changes (post-versioning ? unsync milestones ?) | 13:25 |
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| ttx | So... I propose we defer the discussion on this one to the summit | 13:25 |
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| dhellmann | ++ | 13:25 |
| ttx | I just can't focus on it enough | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | same here | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | let's get this release done, and then figure out those plans | 13:26 |
| ttx | yep | 13:26 |
| ttx | that brings us to the next topic | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | we should think about it before our summit talk, though :-) | 13:26 |
| ttx | #topic Release management session content brainstorming | 13:26 |
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| ttx | We have one fishbowl and one workroom | 13:26 |
| ttx | we need to make the best use of them | 13:27 |
| ttx | Let me open an etherpad | 13:27 |
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| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-release-management | 13:27 |
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| ttx | OK, that's a good start | 13:31 |
| ttx | feel free to brainstorm there | 13:32 |
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| dhellmann | in the work room, the automation blocker on gpg keys is much more important than the refactoring, i think | 13:32 |
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| ttx | dhellmann, dims__: that is all I had for this meeting. Anything else | 13:33 |
| ttx | ? | 13:33 |
| dims__ | nothing else from me ttx thx | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | neutron is going to request another client release | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | nova is looking | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | designate is blocked | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | and zaqar has requested one | 13:33 |
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| dhellmann | so when those are done and the designate situation is cleared up I can finish branching the libs | 13:34 |
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| dims__ | dhellmann: sounds good | 13:35 |
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| ttx | alright, let's close the meeting then | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | I'll go ahead and start with the other libs now | 13:36 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 13:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 13:36:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-09-21-13.02.html | 13:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-09-21-13.02.txt | 13:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-09-21-13.02.log.html | 13:36 |
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| amaretskiy | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 14:01:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amaretskiy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
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| redixin | sup | 14:01 |
| amaretskiy | hi all | 14:01 |
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| rvasilets | o/ | 14:02 |
| ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:02 |
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| amaretskiy | let's start | 14:03 |
| amaretskiy | #topic New Rally release model | 14:04 |
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| amaretskiy | I believe all have seen email from boris-42 regarding new release model | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin | hi | 14:04 |
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| amaretskiy | now we have flexible ability to publish major and minor releases | 14:05 |
| amaretskiy | does anyone have comments about that? | 14:05 |
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| redixin | nope | 14:05 |
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| amaretskiy | okay | 14:07 |
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| yfried_ | hi | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:08 |
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| amaretskiy | so we have rule for major releases (N).(N).(n), minor releases (n).(n).(N), bug fixes and releases for demand - (n).(n).(n)-(N).(N) | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | i believe I'm not wrong with this short description :) | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, let's proceed | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | #topic Discuss Rally Tags | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | We have a proposal from boris-42 for 3 tags | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | they are: covered-by-rally, has-rally-gates, certified-by-rally | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | I think we should be ready to discuss that with Boris | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | for example, first tag "covered-by-rally" is not clear for me - if we set this tag for some project, this definitely does not guarantee that all API are covered by rally | 14:13 |
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| amaretskiy | does anybody have ideas about that? | 14:13 |
| kbaikov | o/ | 14:13 |
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| rvasilets | But covered all Api that is in Rally) | 14:14 |
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| e0ne | hi! | 14:14 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:14 |
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| amaretskiy | andreykurilin, redixin - what do you think? ^ | 14:15 |
| rvasilets | I thin that the best is the first idea. "works in rally" | 14:15 |
| rvasilets | Its smart and means exactly what is in tag | 14:15 |
| amaretskiy | actually it seems that Boris has kicked this tag | 14:15 |
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| andreykurilin | rvasilets: "works in rally" doesn't say load in which it works | 14:16 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, we have a proposal from Boris regarding 3 tags | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | let's be ready to discuss that | 14:17 |
| rvasilets | with two words I don;t think that we can describe the exact load | 14:17 |
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| amaretskiy | also read his email regarding tags | 14:18 |
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| amaretskiy | [openstack-dev] [openstack-operators][tc][tags] Rally tags | 14:18 |
| rvasilets | but we can think like: rally = means high load, means that it would work in any case | 14:18 |
| amaretskiy | rvasilets: I think we do not mean high load, especially on gates based on devstack | 14:19 |
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| amaretskiy | rvasilets: also I've submitted a patch to keystone gates, and there was no high load since I was asked to make rally job running about 20 mins | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | okay, does anybody have something to add about tags? | 14:21 |
| rvasilets | ok. Rally its a competition for professionls. What if "ride in rally"?) | 14:21 |
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| amaretskiy | rvasilets: okay, let's discuss that later with Boris | 14:22 |
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| rvasilets | ok | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | okay, proceed to next topic | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Status for implementation of 'rally task abort' command | 14:22 |
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| amaretskiy | andreykurilin: what is the status for this patch? | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin | py27: commands succeeded | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin | congratulations :) | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin | just need to publish new patch-set | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | :) | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin | and check pep8 | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | great | 14:23 |
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| andreykurilin | new patch-set is ready | 14:24 |
| rvasilets | how about tox -e cli?) | 14:24 |
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| andreykurilin | rvasilets: I don't launch it locally:) | 14:25 |
| rvasilets | I beliave that we will cut release after merging this) | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | cool. we need this patch since it is a release-blocker | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | okay, proceed | 14:25 |
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| andreykurilin | yes, it looks like it last release-blocker | 14:25 |
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| amaretskiy | #topic member role in users context - difference for v2 and v3 api | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | stpierre hi | 14:27 |
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| stpierre | hey | 14:27 |
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| stpierre | so boris-42 kind of weighed in on this, and it sounds like he wants to go with the v2 behavior -- that is, no default group | 14:27 |
| stpierre | let me find the code review real quick | 14:27 |
| stpierre | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220441/ | 14:28 |
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| stpierre | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220441/ | 14:28 |
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| stpierre | anyone have any problems with rolling back the keystone v3 wrapper behavior that automatically adds users to the 'member' role? | 14:28 |
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| amaretskiy | stpierre: okay. personally I use v2 on my local cloud :( | 14:29 |
| stpierre | yep, me too | 14:29 |
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| stpierre | hearing no opposition, i guess we follow our BDFL's lead and get rid of the v3 wrapper behavior | 14:31 |
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| amaretskiy | stpierre: does keystone team have proper bug reported? | 14:32 |
| stpierre | the only bug report i'm aware of is this one: | 14:32 |
| stpierre | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/rally/+bug/1492177 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492177 in Rally "Users created without the member role with keystone API V2" [Undecided,Invalid] | 14:32 |
| andreykurilin | gg, I marked this bug as Invalid:) | 14:33 |
| stpierre | perfect :) | 14:33 |
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| amaretskiy | it seems that we should report proper bug to keystone, shouldn't we? | 14:34 |
| stpierre | what bug exactly? | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | afaik keyston v3 api works wrong... ? | 14:35 |
| stpierre | oh, is that what this is trying to work around? | 14:36 |
| amaretskiy | stpierre: i do not know | 14:36 |
| stpierre | i just assumed someone didn't want to add the member role using the roles context :) | 14:36 |
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| stpierre | i guess i can bring up a devstack and TIAS easily enough | 14:36 |
| amaretskiy | stpierre: okay, waiting updates from you. thanks! | 14:37 |
| andreykurilin | stpierre: maybe we should merge users and roles contexts ? | 14:37 |
| stpierre | maybe -- that would certainly be a more elegant way to handle creating a default role | 14:38 |
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| amaretskiy | merge users and roles contexts - this looks like huge change and should be discussed with boris-42 | 14:39 |
| stpierre | oh very yes | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin | also, I don't know how it should work for existing users | 14:40 |
| stpierre | i think for now it'd be good if we could make the behavior consistent across the keystone wrapper; anything bigger than that is out of scope for the moment | 14:40 |
| amaretskiy | great | 14:41 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, let's proceed | 14:41 |
| amaretskiy | #topic [Swift] Add objects context class | 14:41 |
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| amaretskiy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179578/ | 14:42 |
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| amaretskiy | according to our gerrit dashboard, this patch is important for release | 14:42 |
| amaretskiy | does anybody know status for it? | 14:42 |
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| andreykurilin | amaretskiy: gerrit dashboard is outdated | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin: okay | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | i guess we can proceed :) | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Free discussion | 14:43 |
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| andreykurilin | #topic i18n | 14:43 |
| andreykurilin | As you know, Rally uses oslo.i18n library | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin | also, all user messages are wrapped by _(), _LE()... | 14:44 |
| andreykurilin | BUT | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin | But Rally doesn't have any pot file | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin | we don't have any translations | 14:45 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin: I think before starting writing .po files we should inspect all files and put translations for some messages | 14:45 |
| andreykurilin | _() is required for any messages in rally, but it doen't work at all. just redundant wrappers fir now | 14:45 |
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| andreykurilin | amaretskiy: this process can be automated | 14:46 |
| andreykurilin | and should be | 14:46 |
| dims__ | andreykurilin: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations#Setup_Zanata_server.2C_import_and_export_of_translations | 14:46 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin: need a hacking rule? | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin | dims__: thanks:) | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin | amaretskiy: see a link above | 14:47 |
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| andreykurilin | So we have 2 ways: finish configure of i18n or remove it at all for now | 14:48 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin: first way looks better :) | 14:49 |
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| amaretskiy | but i do not see anything about hacking in the link above | 14:49 |
| rvasilets | First would be easier) | 14:50 |
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| amaretskiy | I'm familiar with Django - there is a makemassages command for scanning project and collecting all messageids | 14:51 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, this topic looks like required boris-42 attention as well | 14:52 |
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| amaretskiy | does anybody have something to add regarding i18n? | 14:54 |
| rvasilets | nothing from me | 14:54 |
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| amaretskiy | okay | 14:55 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Free discussion | 14:55 |
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| amaretskiy | any more comments or questions? | 14:56 |
| amaretskiy | let's finish meeting :) | 14:57 |
| amaretskiy | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 14:57:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-21-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-21-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-21-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 15:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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| mmedvede | hi | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hey mmedvede | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | how is the day treaing you so far? | 15:00 |
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| lennyb | hi | 15:01 |
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| mmedvede | it is good :) thank you | 15:01 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: glad to hear it | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | hi lennyb | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | any thoughts on what we should discuss today? | 15:01 |
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| lennyb | all I have is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206513/ | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: yup you need another review from a system-config core reviewer | 15:02 |
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| asselin__ | o/ | 15:02 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206513/ | 15:02 |
| anteaya | hey asselin__ | 15:02 |
| anteaya | lennyb: keep your chin up :) | 15:03 |
| asselin__ | hi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | I have something | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | this patch | 15:03 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186684/ | 15:03 |
| anteaya | it merged and broke some things | 15:03 |
| anteaya | and now will be merging again soon | 15:03 |
| anteaya | so take a look at it | 15:03 |
| anteaya | it changes the default identity api version in devstack | 15:03 |
| asselin__ | lennyb, we should get that merged soon | 15:03 |
| anteaya | and take steps if you think it will break you | 15:04 |
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| lennyb | asselin_: thanks | 15:04 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, yeah, we got caught by that patch the first time around and fixed our ci. I didn't revert it, so we should still be good. | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | asselin_: okay great | 15:05 |
| asselin_ | big difference is before we were using cinder client calls, and now we use openstack client calls | 15:05 |
| anteaya | ah good to know | 15:05 |
| anteaya | anyone else in this situation? | 15:05 |
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| lennyb | we are always working with devstack upstream, so if it's merged I guess we are ok. | 15:06 |
| anteaya | lennyb: my point is it was merged and then reverted | 15:06 |
| asselin_ | I think it also impacted manila folks, and they fixed their base scripts | 15:06 |
| anteaya | and will be merging again | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | asselin_: good to know | 15:06 |
| lennyb | anteaya: I will check this, thanks | 15:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb: great thank you | 15:07 |
| anteaya | anyone else with any thoughts on the identity api change? | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | an email will be going out soon to the -dev list | 15:08 |
| anteaya | informing people of this change | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | just wanted to give you folks a heads up | 15:08 |
| anteaya | anything more on this topic? | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have a different topic they would like to discuss? | 15:08 |
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| asselin_ | #link manila identify patch fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220601/ | 15:09 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | anything more here? | 15:11 |
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| * anteaya is uncertain if we are moving on or not | 15:12 | |
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| asselin_ | I think we can movw on | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | oh good | 15:12 |
| asselin_ | move* | 15:12 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any other topic they wish to discuss today? | 15:12 |
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| mmedvede | does anybody explicitly test devstack on their CI? | 15:13 |
| asselin_ | we don't | 15:13 |
| lennyb | not us, but maybe I will start listening to it. | 15:14 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: do you mean do a test run of devstack without running the tempest test suite? | 15:14 |
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| mmedvede | anteaya: I mean to run the full tempest. But feed it off patches to devstack | 15:14 |
| mmedvede | so it is easier to see exactly which one breaks our CI | 15:14 |
| mmedvede | we were thinking to start doing it | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | feed it off patches to devstack <- I'm uncertain what you mean by this phrase | 15:15 |
| mmedvede | so I wondered if anybody else is doing it, but not reporting | 15:15 |
| asselin_ | I had that idea too but wasn't sure devstack would want out ci commenting on it. | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | oh have your ci report on devstack patches? | 15:16 |
| mmedvede | asselin_: yes, that is what I am afraid of | 15:16 |
| anteaya | well you can ask | 15:16 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: has given permission to other systems in the past | 15:16 |
| asselin_ | and if we don't comment, we don't have a good way to monitor the results and make them useful | 15:16 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: yes. They might complain that it would be noisy if every third-party CI starts reporting | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | you see citrix xenserver ci commenting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186684/ | 15:17 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: yes, we would ask | 15:17 |
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| lennyb | we were broken few days ago due to pbr version issue, that maybe could have been saved | 15:17 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: right you don't know until you ask | 15:17 |
| anteaya | and you have to ensure you pay close attention to your system so it doens't post noise | 15:17 |
| anteaya | shutting off commenting if it goes sideways | 15:17 |
| eantyshev | lennyb: +1 good example | 15:18 |
| anteaya | and correct, not very ci would be allowed | 15:18 |
| anteaya | you would have to enusre you take maintenance of your system very seriously | 15:18 |
| asselin_ | perhaps it would be good to get some volunteers reporting from various projects | 15:18 |
| anteaya | well actually I think it is best if individuals just asked | 15:18 |
| anteaya | and then mtreinish can decide on a case by case basis | 15:18 |
| anteaya | and if you want to use someone else devstack results that is up to you | 15:19 |
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| mtreinish | anteaya: what am I deciding? | 15:20 |
| anteaya | hi there | 15:20 |
| anteaya | well the ci operators are talking about devstack patches | 15:21 |
| mmedvede | mtreinish: I was wandering if it would be ok for a third-party CI to report on devstack | 15:21 |
| asselin_ | mtreinish, there's a question whether there's any value to devstack if select 3rd party ci systems post comments | 15:21 |
| anteaya | and are discussing whether you would allow any additional cis to report on devstack kpatches | 15:21 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: so I said it is your decision | 15:21 |
| mmedvede | I noticed that devstack is most frequent culprit of us breaking | 15:21 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: and I'm encouraging individuals to ask permisison for their system | 15:22 |
| mtreinish | mmedvede: heh, not the weird architecture you run things on :) | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | rather than asking for a general broadsweeping permission for all cis | 15:22 |
| mmedvede | mtreinish: hehe, true | 15:22 |
| mtreinish | but, sure I don't think there is anything wrong with adding additionally cis to devstack or tempest on a case by case basis | 15:23 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, I don't think anyone's asking for broadsweeping permission | 15:23 |
| anteaya | asselin_: great, glad we have that in the logs | 15:23 |
| mmedvede | mtreinish: but if we were exactly the same, there would not be a case for testing at all :) | 15:23 |
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| mmedvede | thank you, that answers my inquiry | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | so just offer mtreinish the name of your ci and a link so he can see the operational history | 15:25 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: would that be sufficient for you to make a decision? | 15:25 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: sure should be | 15:25 |
| anteaya | great thank you | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | anything more on this topic? | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have any other topic they would like to discuss today? | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | asselin_: have you made any progress on selecting a third party dashboard for infra to host? | 15:27 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, we had very light participation last week | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | what needs to happen to make progress? | 15:28 |
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| asselin_ | anteaya, we discussed the current solutions and compared the various solutions | 15:28 |
| anteaya | that is helpful | 15:28 |
| anteaya | any conclusions? | 15:28 |
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| lennyb | btw, jogo's server is no longer avaliable #link http://52.27.62.150/lastcomment.json | 15:29 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, well I have my preference, but the meeting lacked the 2 main developers | 15:29 |
| mmedvede | I also had conflict, so could not attend | 15:29 |
| anteaya | lennyb: that is not surprising as jogo is not working on openstack currently | 15:29 |
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| asselin_ | sweston's solution is still not up and running | 15:29 |
| anteaya | asselin_: ah yes having developer input is important | 15:30 |
| anteaya | asselin_: :( | 15:30 |
| asselin_ | lennyb, I was able to launch his solution locally. | 15:30 |
| anteaya | lennyb: the code should be available though | 15:30 |
| mmedvede | I actually wrote initial puppet deployment module for patrickeast 's scoreboard | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | okay so sounds like we are no closer to agreement | 15:30 |
| asselin_ | honestly, they'll all bring value. Personally, I'd like to see if we can merge the solutions into one | 15:30 |
| anteaya | okay thanks for keeping on the forefront of discussion | 15:30 |
| anteaya | asselin_: I'm not against that | 15:31 |
| anteaya | but infra needs to know how the puppet module should look so it can be merged | 15:31 |
| anteaya | so one solution to start with and adding later after it is up | 15:31 |
| lennyb | asselin_: what do you mean ( how did you do it locally ) ? | 15:31 |
| anteaya | would be what I envision | 15:31 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: +1 | 15:31 |
| asselin_ | lennyb, I just followed the instructions in his readme | 15:32 |
| anteaya | so I'm hearing no consensus yet | 15:32 |
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| asselin_ | we also lacked inputs from mmedvede rfolco and other consumer stakeholders | 15:32 |
| anteaya | yup that is fine | 15:32 |
| anteaya | let me know how it goes | 15:33 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:33 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, not enough people to form a concensus | 15:33 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:33 |
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| asselin_ | but perhaps we can discuss a bit more now if there's time? | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | oh sure | 15:33 |
| lennyb | asselin_: could you drop me a link to the readme, pls ? | 15:34 |
| anteaya | if y'all want to discuss here, that's great | 15:34 |
| anteaya | #topic third-party dashboard | 15:34 |
| mmedvede | scoreboard can be deployed the fastest, I am a bit subjective here :), here is the module | 15:34 |
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| mmedvede | #link https://review.openstack.org/214823 | 15:34 |
| asselin_ | #link 3rd party ci dashboard comparison: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-ci-dashboard-comp | 15:34 |
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| asselin_ | #link scoreboard (patrickeast) http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000/?project=openstack%2Fnova&user=&timeframe=24 | 15:35 |
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| asselin_ | #link ci-watch (skyler) http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=24+hours | 15:35 |
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| asselin_ | #link last-commend (jogo) https://github.com/stackforge/third-party-ci-tools/tree/master/monitoring/lastcomment-scoreboard | 15:36 |
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| mmedvede | is ci-watch source code available already? | 15:37 |
| asselin_ | mmedvede, yes, it's merged | 15:37 |
| asselin_ | https://github.com/stackforge/third-party-ci-tools/tree/master/monitoring/ciwatch | 15:37 |
| asselin_ | 20 days ago | 15:37 |
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| asselin_ | please speak openly as to what you like or not | 15:39 |
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| mmedvede | asselin_: I like that ci-watch has per-job view | 15:39 |
| anteaya | ci-watch loads faster (refreshes faster) than scoreboard | 15:40 |
| anteaya | other than that, I like them both the same | 15:40 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any other comments? | 15:42 |
| mmedvede | I think ci-watch collects more information to its db compared to scoreboard. I like how you can filter the scoreboard per project, and that scoreboard collects all events, while ci-watch seems to only have a few projects at the moment | 15:42 |
| lennyb | what is the main goal of this board? Seeing this constantly or having some internal scripts ( REST ) to check our CI against the others ? | 15:42 |
| asselin_ | for our ci, the per-job view is really valuable | 15:42 |
| mmedvede | superficially, ci-watch might be a better starting point, but I did not look at source code, neither tried to automate its deployment | 15:43 |
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| mmedvede | +1 on per-job view | 15:43 |
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| asselin_ | lennyb, well, for example, you can see which patches your ci commented on, and which it didn't along with the result. | 15:44 |
| asselin_ | lennyb, see which jobs are having trouble | 15:44 |
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| asselin_ | lennyb, see if upstream jenkins is ok or not | 15:45 |
| asselin_ | lennyb, as a developer get a quick indication of a 3rd party ci past history to know if you should even care about it's results in your super-awesome-patch that it says doesn't work | 15:45 |
| asselin_ | in short, for operators: gage how well your system is doing so you can improve it and fix issues | 15:46 |
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| asselin_ | for developers: establish a level of trust so you can better focus your time on code | 15:47 |
| anteaya | very important | 15:47 |
| asselin_ | for ptls: see who's got ci and who doesn't | 15:48 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 15:48 |
| anteaya | all reasons infra would like to host one | 15:48 |
| anteaya | so folks know where to go and have similar information | 15:48 |
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| krtaylor | sorry I'm late, good to see dashboard discussion | 15:49 |
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| krtaylor | I'd ask a different way, is there a problem with using scoreboard short-term, and then focusing on a merged solution? | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | yes | 15:50 |
| anteaya | that approach has been a blocker for about 18 months | 15:51 |
| anteaya | infra wants to host _one_ | 15:51 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, honestly I don't use scoreboard b/c it doesn't have the per-job stats | 15:51 |
| anteaya | not a different one as the mood changes | 15:51 |
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| asselin_ | krtaylor, if we need to pick one of the two today, I'd pick ci-watch | 15:51 |
| krtaylor | yes, one, that is the proposal | 15:51 |
| krtaylor | fine, everybody agree? | 15:51 |
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| asselin_ | krtaylor, agree to what? | 15:52 |
| mmedvede | +1 on ci-watch functionality | 15:52 |
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| krtaylor | ci-watch | 15:52 |
| asselin_ | perhaps we should vote? | 15:52 |
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| krtaylor | s/scoreboard/ci-watch - easy fix to spec | 15:52 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, and s/temporary//g | 15:53 |
| krtaylor | +1 to whatever gets a hosted solution approved | 15:53 |
| krtaylor | asselin, fair point | 15:53 |
| asselin_ | or s/temporary/permanent/g | 15:53 |
| anteaya | just removing temporary should be fine | 15:53 |
| asselin_ | we'll iterate from there | 15:53 |
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| krtaylor | I'm fine with that, but it was jeblair 's idea to have a quick fix, I agreed to take the pen | 15:54 |
| anteaya | well jim thought it would be quick | 15:54 |
| anteaya | and it wasn't | 15:54 |
| krtaylor | if it is a permanent, thats fine, we can work on merging punctionality into it | 15:54 |
| krtaylor | whatever it is | 15:54 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, yes, too many -1 for typos :) | 15:55 |
| * asselin_ thinks we should vote | 15:55 | |
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| anteaya | asselin_: what do you want to vote on? | 15:55 |
| krtaylor | y, 5 mins left | 15:55 |
| anteaya | asselin_: what question and what options | 15:56 |
| anteaya | I can start a vote | 15:56 |
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| asselin_ | #vote which solutions should we start with to monitor 3rd party ci. scoreboard, ci-watch, need-more-info | 15:56 |
| asselin_ | as infra-hosted | 15:56 |
| mmedvede | asselin_: quick question - you have been running ci-watch internally? | 15:57 |
| asselin_ | mmedvede, no | 15:57 |
| krtaylor | I like CI-watch's functionality, but scoreboard's layout | 15:57 |
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| mmedvede | my hope is to be able to allow flexibility in layout later | 15:57 |
| mmedvede | *some | 15:57 |
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| krtaylor | agreed | 15:57 |
| krtaylor | not worth hanging up the progress | 15:58 |
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| asselin_ | krtaylor, +1 | 15:58 |
| krtaylor | vote? 2 mins :) | 15:58 |
| krtaylor | +1 ci-watch | 15:58 |
| anteaya | #startvote chose the infra-hosted third party ci monitoring solution #options scoreboard, ci-watch, need-more-info | 15:58 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 15:58 |
| mmedvede | +1 ci-watch | 15:59 |
| anteaya | I don't have the syntax right | 15:59 |
| asselin_ | +1 ci-watch | 15:59 |
| anteaya | that will do I think | 15:59 |
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| anteaya | as it is in the logs | 15:59 |
| anteaya | time for the meeting to end | 15:59 |
| anteaya | thanks all for your participation and attendance | 15:59 |
| asselin_ | thanks | 15:59 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:59 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| mmedvede | thank you | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 15:59:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-21-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-21-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-21-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| matjazp | hey | 17:01 |
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| bgmccollum | hello | 17:01 |
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| mgrohar | hi | 17:01 |
| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 17:01:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| matjazp | hey mgrohar bgmccollum | 17:02 |
| matjazp | roll call | 17:02 |
| mgrohar | hey | 17:02 |
| bgmccollum | howdy | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | #topic Action items review | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items review (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:03 | |
| matjazp | ok, lets see last week's action items | 17:03 |
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| matjazp | you all know that you can see meeting minutes at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-14-17.01.html | 17:03 |
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| cloudtrainme | sorry, I'm late..here. | 17:04 |
| bgmccollum | have it pulled up :) | 17:04 |
| matjazp | hey cloudtrainme | 17:04 |
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| matjazp | #info no repllies on ML about "screenshot pastebin", so let's wait a bit for this | 17:05 |
| matjazp | nothing else I see | 17:05 |
| matjazp | ok moving on | 17:05 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream training progress | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Upstream training progress (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:05 | |
| bgmccollum | matjazp: do you have a set of requirements we can work against for the imgbin? | 17:05 |
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| matjazp | bgmccollum: did you see my mail on ML? | 17:06 |
| bgmccollum | which list? | 17:06 |
| matjazp | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-September/007448.html | 17:07 |
| matjazp | We're using Docs ML | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | #ilink http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs | 17:07 |
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| bgmccollum | thanks | 17:07 |
| matjazp | ok back to upstream training | 17:08 |
| matjazp | bgmccollum squashed 2 bugs last week. congrats! :) | 17:08 |
| bgmccollum | thanks! | 17:09 |
| matjazp | we also have a new landing page | 17:09 |
| matjazp | it is already published at | 17:09 |
| matjazp | #link http://docs.openstack.org/draft/upstream-training | 17:10 |
| matjazp | #info upstream material has a new landing page, published as draft at http://docs.openstack.org/draft/upstream-training | 17:11 |
| matjazp | #info old slide-only landing page is still there at http://docs.openstack.org/draft/upstream-training/slide-index.html | 17:11 |
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| cloudtrainme | New LP looks great. I like it. | 17:12 |
| matjazp | the question is do we fill all the stuff we have on the Wiki into this? | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | #link #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training | 17:12 |
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| cloudtrainme | What are the other Docs teams doing? Are they still using Wiki? | 17:13 |
| matjazp | not for docs | 17:13 |
| matjazp | just for some bookkeeping stuff | 17:13 |
| cloudtrainme | I like the idea of moving out wiki content to the LP, but I can be swayed if someone feels differently. | 17:14 |
| matjazp | maybe it would be better if we also discuss this on the ML | 17:14 |
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| cloudtrainme | sounds good | 17:15 |
| matjazp | and ping Tim and Loic for an opinion | 17:15 |
| bgmccollum | wikis tend to get "forgotten" and outdated...having it in code seems like more eyeballs would catch changes | 17:15 |
| matjazp | #action matjazp asks about moving stuff from Upstream's wiki to the repo on Doc ML | 17:15 |
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| matjazp | bgmccollum: yes, my thoughts exactly, but wiki is ideal for last minute changes... let7s see what the other trainers think of this | 17:16 |
| mgrohar | agree with bgmccollum | 17:17 |
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| matjazp | ok, so I'll start the debate on ML, and you guys can chip in with replies to increase mail thread's visibility ;) | 17:18 |
| matjazp | if you're not subscribing our ML, you should.. see link above | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | I'm marking training guide's msgs with "[training guides]" in the Subject | 17:19 |
| matjazp | anyway, upstream is progressing nicely | 17:20 |
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| matjazp | currently there are only 5 bugs not assigned | 17:21 |
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| matjazp | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/?field.searchtext=upstream&orderby=-importance&search=Search&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branche | 17:21 |
| matjazp | s=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on | 17:21 |
| matjazp | huh | 17:21 |
| matjazp | too long | 17:21 |
| matjazp | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/?field.searchtext=upstream&search=Search&assignee_option=none | 17:22 |
| matjazp | this should do it | 17:22 |
| matjazp | but you can also see the whole list at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/ | 17:23 |
| matjazp | it's not so long | 17:23 |
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| bgmccollum | picked up the horizon screenshot | 17:24 |
| matjazp | we still need to scan for bugs on the last few chapters | 17:24 |
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| matjazp | bgmccollum: great | 17:24 |
| bgmccollum | also i have some content about eavesdrop, so i might pick that up as well time permitting | 17:25 |
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| matjazp | I made a quick scan up to devstack chapterscanned | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | I'll try to look it up and enter more bugs | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | anything else for upstream? | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | ok, moving on | 17:28 |
| matjazp | #topic training slides | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "training slides (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:28 | |
| matjazp | upstream training is a priority, as it is due in a month | 17:28 |
| matjazp | cloudtrainme: any progress on nova? | 17:29 |
| cloudtrainme | matjazp: I'm running into some issues with tox | 17:29 |
| cloudtrainme | trying to build the slides but the training-slides target is failing | 17:29 |
| matjazp | what's the error message? | 17:29 |
| cloudtrainme | bgmccollum: are looking at it this morning. | 17:30 |
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| bgmccollum | cloudtrainme: try tox -r to recreate the venvs | 17:30 |
| bgmccollum | then tox -e <env> | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | cloudtrainme: tox -e training-slides | 17:30 |
| matjazp | and for upstream tox -e upstream-slides | 17:30 |
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| bgmccollum | This is the error: ERROR: InvocationError: '/Users/bgmccollum/Documents/training-guides/.tox/upstream-slides/bin/sphinx-build -b html doc/upstream-training doc/upstream-training/build/slides doc/upstream-training/index.rst' | 17:32 |
| matjazp | "hard reset" is to just delete .tox dir ;) | 17:32 |
| matjazp | this is if you build for upstream training | 17:33 |
| bgmccollum | ImportError: No module named openstackdocstheme | 17:33 |
| cbader | asselin, printenv returned nothing | 17:33 |
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| matjazp | this looks like it has no sphinx-build installed | 17:34 |
| matjazp | maybe it didn't create venv right | 17:34 |
| bgmccollum | cloudtrainme and I will continue to debug offline | 17:35 |
| matjazp | I sometimes just delete .tox and start over | 17:35 |
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| bgmccollum | i reset hard and same | 17:35 |
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| matjazp | same error? | 17:37 |
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| cloudtrainme | I think my issue is a venv error because when I run the sphinx commands or doc8 commands directly, they work. | 17:38 |
| cloudtrainme | My error: ERROR: InvocationError: '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/doc8 doc/training-guides' | 17:38 |
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| matjazp | I just tried a fresh clone of the repo and got the errorabout pip beeing too old | 17:40 |
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| matjazp | oh, and I'm using the latest brew'd python 2.x | 17:41 |
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| matjazp | and in the summary ERROR: upstream-slides: could not install deps | 17:41 |
| matjazp | something like that? | 17:41 |
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| bgmccollum | im rebuilding to see | 17:43 |
| matjazp | does it install all the dependencies ok? | 17:44 |
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| cloudtrainme | I've seen complaints about docutils module not loaded | 17:45 |
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| bgmccollum | this is what i get running from a `git reset --hard` environment -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/473042/ | 17:46 |
| matjazp | it should load openstackdocs theme automatically | 17:46 |
| bgmccollum | `openstackdocstheme` is not getting installed from what i can tell | 17:47 |
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| matjazp | this is a fresh clone of the repo on my comp http://paste.openstack.org/show/473055/ | 17:48 |
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| matjazp | on os x, with Python 2.7.9 and pip 7.1.2 | 17:49 |
| matjazp | this is what it should look like | 17:50 |
| matjazp | I just cloned a repo and run tox -e upstream-slides | 17:50 |
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| cloudtrainme | I'm on Python 2.7.6rc1 and pip 7.1.2 | 17:51 |
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| cloudtrainme | going to upgrade Python and see what I get. | 17:51 |
| bgmccollum | im on python 2.7.10 pip 7.1.2 | 17:51 |
| matjazp | it shouldn't matter | 17:51 |
| bgmccollum | my upstream-slides venv doesn't have `openstackdocstheme` installed | 17:52 |
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| bgmccollum | that was recently added for the new landing page, yes? | 17:52 |
| matjazp | if you look at the conf.py, it should load it automatically | 17:52 |
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| matjazp | html_theme_path = [openstackdocstheme.get_html_theme_path()] | 17:53 |
| matjazp | oh.. do you have an old repo content? | 17:53 |
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| matjazp | just pull the latest stuff | 17:53 |
| bgmccollum | is that something that needs to be install system wide, out-of-band of the venv requirements? | 17:53 |
| bgmccollum | im in master, up to date | 17:54 |
| matjazp | no, it is mentioned in the test-requirements.txt | 17:54 |
| matjazp | so it get's loaded when you start tox | 17:54 |
| bgmccollum | pip freeze for the tox env doesn't show it installed though | 17:55 |
| matjazp | but if you have old tox env, maybe it is better to just recursively delete .tox folder | 17:55 |
| matjazp | bgmccollum: that's it | 17:55 |
| matjazp | recreate env | 17:55 |
| matjazp | so that it loads all required stuff | 17:55 |
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| bgmccollum | i git reset --hard, git pull latest, basically nuked everything and its still not getting installed | 17:56 |
| matjazp | but .tox remains | 17:56 |
| matjazp | it is in git ignore | 17:56 |
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| matjazp | did you delete .tox folder? | 17:57 |
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| bgmccollum | i did...but let me try one more time | 17:57 |
| matjazp | just clone again and start on the fresh copy | 17:58 |
| matjazp | huh.. | 17:58 |
| matjazp | time's almost up | 17:58 |
| cloudtrainme | matjazp: sorry to derail the meeting...I know we're out of time. | 17:58 |
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| matjazp | cloudtrainme: no problems, we were done anyway | 17:59 |
| matjazp | ok, see you guys next week | 17:59 |
| cloudtrainme | okay, we will reach out if we can't get this to work | 17:59 |
| matjazp | ping me if you still have issues with the environment | 17:59 |
| bgmccollum | thanks matjazp, we'll work though this | 17:59 |
| cloudtrainme | thanks. bye. | 17:59 |
| matjazp | bye | 17:59 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 17:59:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-21-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-21-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-21-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting akanda | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 18:00:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' | 18:01 |
| adam_g | heyo | 18:01 |
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| elo | Hello | 18:01 |
| sarob | o/ | 18:01 |
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| adam_g | #topic outstanding actions from last meeting | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "outstanding actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:02 | |
| adam_g | im not seeing anything listed on the agenda. we did that PTL thing last week, sarob is there anything that needs doing in infra/elsewhere to finalize me as the current PTL? | 18:02 |
| sarob | not yet | 18:03 |
| sarob | the govenance patch | 18:03 |
| adam_g | sarob, what are the next steps if anything? | 18:03 |
| sarob | i have the patch ready to push the update | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | #action sarob to push governance patch finalizing PTL change | 18:03 |
| sarob | im expecting an update on the trademark thing | 18:03 |
| sarob | very soon | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | k | 18:04 |
| sarob | i can push the ptl change now | 18:04 |
| adam_g | nice | 18:04 |
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| sarob | it just wont merge until the trademark thing is worked out | 18:04 |
| sarob | which should be any day now | 18:04 |
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| adam_g | ok well ill carry the action under your name till then | 18:04 |
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| adam_g | #topic mitaka planning + F2F meetup planning | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | sarob, what are the final dates for the PDX get together? | 18:05 |
| adam_g | and have we got a location we can publicize? | 18:05 |
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| sarob | this coming monday and tuesday | 18:06 |
| sarob | 27-28th of september | 18:06 |
| adam_g | okay cool | 18:06 |
| stanchan | hi all | 18:07 |
| davidlenwell | o/ sorry | 18:07 |
| sarob | whats the etherpad url? | 18:07 |
| adam_g | i imagine we'll probably spend those days finishing up any remaining liberty work and trying to get it all merged | 18:07 |
| sarob | stanchan: heya | 18:07 |
| sarob | for the mitaka design planning | 18:07 |
| adam_g | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/akanda-mitaka-planning is the etherpad we started for our tokyo planning but its honest. TBH i think we're all a bit burdened with pre-release crunch and we will probably have an easier time braindumping there once liberty is behind us | 18:07 |
| adam_g | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/akanda-mitaka-planning | 18:08 |
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| adam_g | #action lets all start brainstorming ideas for mitaka topics to tackle in tokyo @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/akanda-mitaka-planning | 18:08 |
| sarob | adam_g: yeah, i want to overload it with our f2f agenda | 18:08 |
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| adam_g | #info Portland akanda meetup happening sept 27+28th in portland OR, exact location TBD this week | 18:09 |
| adam_g | #topic critical bugs | 18:09 |
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| sarob | i have the exactly location | 18:09 |
| adam_g | sarob, o rly? | 18:09 |
| adam_g | do share | 18:10 |
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| sarob | 2124 Southeast Ankeny Street, Portland, OR 97214 | 18:12 |
| adam_g | sarob, there an office name or something? | 18:12 |
| stanchan | sarob: I ran through the akanda devstack install... it errored out. Trying to figure out if it's something with my environment. | 18:12 |
| sarob | its where i am staying in PDX | 18:12 |
| adam_g | sarob, huh? where is the meetup happening | 18:13 |
| sarob | the f2f for akanda | 18:13 |
| sarob | which is us | 18:13 |
| sarob | its a house | 18:13 |
| davidlenwell | adam_g: we're renting a house for our group we are going to hold the face to face at that house.. cuz.. why not | 18:13 |
| sarob | with a large table and wifi | 18:14 |
| adam_g | oh, interesting | 18:14 |
| adam_g | anyway.. | 18:14 |
| adam_g | #topic critical bugs | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | i feel like markmcclain was hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1482389 as well last week and hopefully he's got some more insight into a fix | 18:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482389 in akanda "demo tenant instance connectivity issues /w devstack " [High,New] | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | if he wasn't absent right now i'd assign it to him | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | thats the only bug we have targetted to RC1 that hasn't had any progress | 18:15 |
| adam_g | the others are either landed or in review, any help getting the proposed patches landed would be appreciated | 18:16 |
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| adam_g | anyone have any other bugs that need immediate attention before RC1? | 18:16 |
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| adam_g | ok | 18:17 |
| adam_g | #topic progress on liberty rc1 blueprints | 18:17 |
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| adam_g | #link https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-provisioning-driver | 18:18 |
| adam_g | so the driver work is progressing into its final iteratinos now i hope | 18:18 |
| adam_g | we've got a functional driver framework in review and im in the process of building the initial LBAAS driver on top of that | 18:19 |
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| adam_g | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/lbaas-v2-support looks like it overlaps with that blueprint. can we ditch this one in favor of tracking everything in the appliance-provisioning-driver BP? | 18:20 |
| adam_g | or were you intentionally separating them, sarob ? | 18:20 |
| sarob | not intentionally | 18:20 |
| sarob | but my assumption early on | 18:20 |
| sarob | was that the ability to support a router driver | 18:21 |
| sarob | appliance | 18:21 |
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| adam_g | ok i guess ill keep them separate for now and update the later lbaas patches to point to the second one later today | 18:21 |
| sarob | was separate than lbaas nginix driver | 18:21 |
| adam_g | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/nodepool-support | 18:21 |
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| sarob | it was titled as lbaasv2 though | 18:21 |
| adam_g | i made good progress on this last week but swithced focus late in the week to help get the lbaas driver stuff closer, i will hopefully have time to pick it up again and finish it later this week | 18:22 |
| adam_g | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/liberty-doc-updates | 18:22 |
| adam_g | sarob, anything to update on docs front? | 18:22 |
| sarob | im adding multi-node to install | 18:23 |
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| sarob | then its ready to merge | 18:23 |
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| adam_g | i think part of the liberty doc updates should include sections on new user-facing features like pez and the active/active rug HA.. assuming those land this cycle | 18:23 |
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| adam_g | probably the driver stuff too, in the developer section | 18:23 |
| sarob | adam_g: sure | 18:24 |
| adam_g | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/rug-scaling | 18:24 |
| sarob | adam_g: i can patch that into the what is akanda section | 18:24 |
| adam_g | this stuff has been languishing in review for some time now | 18:24 |
| sarob | pez and such | 18:24 |
| adam_g | it totally conflicts with the driver work thats still in progress, which is unfortunate. i guess we should focus on landing that and then i'll doa rebase of the rug-scaling once it has | 18:25 |
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| adam_g | #topic liberty release | 18:25 |
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| adam_g | last month we had agreed in a meeting that we'd be cutting our RC1 this week | 18:26 |
| adam_g | at least, IIRC | 18:26 |
| adam_g | TBH it doesnt seem like thats going to happen | 18:26 |
| adam_g | i propose we bump it till next week and hope we can flush through the rest of our work between now and then, taking advantage of F2F time on mon+tues | 18:26 |
| sarob | sounds good to me | 18:27 |
| adam_g | in tokyo i'd like to formalize our release planning, come with a schedule and stick to it for mitaka | 18:27 |
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| adam_g | any objections to delaying RC1 till oct 1? | 18:28 |
| adam_g | ... | 18:28 |
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| adam_g | the crickets say no | 18:29 |
| davidlenwell | no objections | 18:29 |
| adam_g | #info liberty rc1 pushed back to thurs oct 1 | 18:29 |
| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:29 |
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| adam_g | anyone have anything else they'd like to bring up? | 18:29 |
| adam_g | ryanpetrello was trying to get something landed to stable/kilo but it looks like theres a requirements jam going on there. i'll be looking into that today | 18:29 |
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| sarob | adam_g: release planning, yes | 18:30 |
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| adam_g | ok unless anyone has anything else, we can call it | 18:31 |
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| sarob | i have nothing else | 18:31 |
| adam_g | right on cya guys later | 18:31 |
| adam_g | stanchan, if you need help with devstack running please follow up in #akanda | 18:32 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
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| sarob | stanchan: you want to discuss devstack on the akanda channel? | 18:32 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 18:32:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:32 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-09-21-18.00.html | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-09-21-18.00.txt | 18:32 |
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| stanchan | sure | 18:32 |
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| barrett | #startmeeting Product Work Group | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 20:05:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_work_group' | 20:05 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 20:05 |
| barrett | #endmeeting | 20:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 20:05:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-09-21-20.05.html | 20:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-09-21-20.05.txt | 20:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-09-21-20.05.log.html | 20:05 |
| barrett | #startmeeting Product Working Group | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 21 20:05:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Product Working Group)" | 20:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 20:05 |
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| cloudrancher | Hi Jay Kruemcke is on | 20:06 |
| barrett | roll call | 20:06 |
| philipw | \o | 20:06 |
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| KrishR | o/ | 20:06 |
| * sgordon here | 20:06 | |
| Leong | Leong | 20:06 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 20:06 |
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| DericHorn-HP | Here | 20:06 |
| barrett | Megan is on the call | 20:06 |
| scohen1 | *here* | 20:06 |
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| ShamailT | Here | 20:06 |
| barrett | #topic Agenda | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Product Working Group)" | 20:07 | |
| barrett | You can check out the agenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 20:07 |
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| barrett | Any topics that people want to add to the agenda? | 20:08 |
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| barrett | #topic User Story Team Updates | 20:08 |
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| barrett | Are any of the user story owners on line? | 20:08 |
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| barrett | Deric & Jay - take it away! | 20:09 |
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| barrett | Can you post a link to the BP? | 20:09 |
| barrett | Is the Gaps analysis complete? | 20:10 |
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| barrett | Should the User Story move to Tracked from Draft? | 20:11 |
| sgordon | capacity im going to schedule something with jesse for wednesday | 20:11 |
| sgordon | i never got a response from geoff re. availability | 20:11 |
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| barrett | Thanks sgordon | 20:11 |
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| Rockyg | is this still live? | 20:16 |
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| barrett | Yes - lots of voice discussion going on | 20:17 |
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| barrett | We have an update from the Onboarding Legacy App team | 20:17 |
| barrett | #action Carol to send Leong's contact info to Jay and Deric to include on the team meetings | 20:18 |
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| cloudrancher | Onboarding User story status: We have been meeting weekly and have initial draft blueprint identifying some of the gaps. | 20:19 |
| cloudrancher | Team is providing input and we will have another meeting Friday to discuss the approach to getting the Nova changes | 20:19 |
| scohen1 | Lifecycle Management for VMs/Storage meeting is going to take place tomorrow @4pm EST | 20:20 |
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| Rockyg | Onboarding will stay as draft for now | 20:22 |
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| barrett | #info Onboarding will stay as draft for now | 20:22 |
| barrett | Anyone from Upgrades on? | 20:23 |
| barrett | Kenny sent a note that he wasn't going to make it | 20:23 |
| barrett | Keith Basil - Are you on? | 20:23 |
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| barrett | What I know about this one is that the Enterprise WG and this User Story team will combine forces and work together on the gaps analysis and Mitaka design summit planning and development. | 20:26 |
| barrett | This blueprint may be ready to go to Tracked in the next couple of weeks | 20:26 |
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| barrett | Shamail is working on updating our wiki to help us track info better | 20:27 |
| barrett | Hopefully done this week! | 20:27 |
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| barrett | Any CPL actions yet? | 20:28 |
| scohen1 | VM Lifecycle Management user stories meeting | 20:28 |
| scohen1 | Tue, September 22, 16:00 – 17:00 EST | 20:28 |
| scohen1 | Phone bridge: 1 512 33 55 101: 7750894771# | 20:28 |
| barrett | #topic Roadmap Refresh Status | 20:29 |
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| barrett | Shamail - Pls take it away | 20:29 |
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| barrett | Need info from 5-6 projects, waiting on PTL response | 20:31 |
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| barrett | For Trove, we need someone to start the dialog with the PTL to gather this info | 20:31 |
| barrett | Anyone want to cover this? | 20:31 |
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| Leong | I can help with Trove.. | 20:32 |
| SlickNik | hi folks. | 20:32 |
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| SlickNik | I can work with Leong to get you guys the info you need for trove. | 20:33 |
| barrett | Leong - Thanks!! Shamail will send you the email template/questionaire to use and invite you into the team meeting. | 20:33 |
| barrett | SlickNik - Thanks!! Shamail will include you on the email with Leong | 20:34 |
| Leong | great.. thanks (p/s: i drop the voice call as having another meeting) | 20:34 |
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| SlickNik | Perfect, will keep an eye out for the email. | 20:34 |
| SlickNik | Thanks. | 20:34 |
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| Rockyg | Thanks, SlickNik! | 20:35 |
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| barrett | OK - it looks like we're waiting on info from Heat, Sahara, Manila, TripleO, OSClient | 20:37 |
| barrett | Pete Chadwick - Are you here? | 20:37 |
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| barrett | On the OSClient - MeganR - let me know if you need assistance. | 20:38 |
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| barrett | #topic Product WG Survey/Ops Session | 20:39 |
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| barrett | based upon the discussions wtih the PTLs about information that would be helpful in setting direction/priorities, we're thinking of putting together a survey to gather this info | 20:41 |
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| barrett | In the Design Summit, there are plans for a cross-project session that is Operator time friendly. That could be a good place for this discussion. | 20:43 |
| barrett | RockyG: Can you post the etherpad link? | 20:43 |
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| Rockyg | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-session-planning | 20:45 |
| barrett | Thanks Rocky | 20:45 |
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| barrett | #topic Opens | 20:47 |
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| barrett | UX work is starting with drafting a catalog of Personas | 20:48 |
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| barrett | As a basis for creating User Stories with common roles | 20:48 |
| barrett | There is going to be a workshop on this the week of 10/5 in Austin at the IBM design center. | 20:49 |
| barrett | It will be a 3 day F2F workshop | 20:49 |
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| barrett | From the Product Work Group Shamail and Nate will be there. | 20:49 |
| barrett | Anyone else interested in joing? | 20:50 |
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| barrett | Draft agenda is WIP | 20:50 |
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| barrett | Any other opens? | 20:51 |
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| barrett | Mitaka themes shaping up to include: Interoperability and Cross-project communications | 20:52 |
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| barrett | Interop includes DefCore and Shade - how do we make it easier for an operator to move their VM across clouds | 20:54 |
| barrett | Sounds like it's synergistic with the OpenStack Simplified API User Story | 20:54 |
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| barrett | Cross project communication is developing based work by Doug Helman | 20:56 |
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| barrett | Shamail will send out a link to the discussion thread to our Mail List | 20:56 |
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| barrett | #action Shamail to send out a link to the discussion thread to our Mail List | 20:56 |
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| barrett | There is a growing senior core of OpenStack leaders who are focusing more and more on Cross Project coordination! Great stuff! | 20:57 |
| barrett | #action Rockyg to send link to Glance discussion to our ML | 20:58 |
| barrett | anything else for the remaining 2 mins? | 20:59 |
| barrett | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 21 20:59:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-09-21-20.05.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-09-21-20.05.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-09-21-20.05.log.html | 20:59 |
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