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| aspiers | morning | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | or evening | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | anyone around? | 09:04 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: \o | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | hey | 09:05 |
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| aspiers | no Sampath yet | 09:05 |
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| aspiers | hrm | 09:07 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: shall we just do a very quick meeting then? | 09:08 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: OK | 09:08 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 09:08:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:08 |
| aspiers | alright then | 09:08 |
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| aspiers | just two of us today | 09:08 |
| aspiers | I guess the day change confused people | 09:09 |
| ddeja | maybe | 09:09 |
| ddeja | but we see not many people from Barcelona | 09:09 |
| aspiers | #topic specs | 09:09 |
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| aspiers | so I see sampath updated his VM recovery spec | 09:10 |
| ddeja | that's good | 09:10 |
| ddeja | today I finally have some time to review them | 09:10 |
| aspiers | oh great | 09:10 |
| ddeja | I don't know how it would go however | 09:11 |
| aspiers | yeah, it is still missing the important part though | 09:11 |
| * ddeja spend 11 hours in train yesterday insted of 6... | 09:11 | |
| aspiers | ouch :-( | 09:11 |
| aspiers | the most important part of these specs are the interface points | 09:11 |
| ddeja | aspiers: agree | 09:11 |
| aspiers | to ensure compatibility between the components | 09:11 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:12 |
| aspiers | so that bit should be covered for compute node monitoring recovery now | 09:13 |
| aspiers | since my spec and your spec agree on the format of the message to pass | 09:13 |
| aspiers | I have been thinking about the libvirt and nova-compute OCF RA specs | 09:14 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:14 |
| aspiers | in Barcelona I agreed with sampath that these should simply send failures to an external component | 09:14 |
| aspiers | which decides what to do | 09:14 |
| aspiers | but the challenge is how that decision should be handled | 09:14 |
| aspiers | because Pacemaker needs to handle it | 09:15 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: BTW, I found this last week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389103/2 | 09:16 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: yes I talked to Michele and Andrew about that in Barcelona | 09:17 |
| ddeja | oh | 09:17 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:17 |
| ddeja | can you give a little update? | 09:17 |
| aspiers | they said don't worry, it's just covering what we are already doing, from a triple-o PoV | 09:17 |
| aspiers | so not a new solution | 09:17 |
| aspiers | just about getting triple-o to automatically set up instance HA | 09:18 |
| ddeja | oh, OK | 09:18 |
| ddeja | so it would be using resource agents? | 09:18 |
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| aspiers | yes I guess so | 09:19 |
| aspiers | for now | 09:19 |
| aspiers | or maybe mistral | 09:19 |
| aspiers | I don't know | 09:19 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:19 |
| aspiers | really RH are driving that | 09:19 |
| ddeja | but If it's not about implementing something new, then it is OK | 09:20 |
| aspiers | yeah | 09:20 |
| aspiers | well that's what they said | 09:20 |
| aspiers | but I would suggest pinging them and asking about mistral | 09:21 |
| ddeja | sure | 09:21 |
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| ddeja | thanks | 09:21 |
| aspiers | we should also review their spec ... | 09:21 |
| ddeja | I've just added myself as a reviewer | 09:22 |
| ddeja | it seems like today is the review day | 09:22 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:22 |
| aspiers | I'll aim for that too | 09:22 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:22 |
| aspiers | last month I've been forced to focus much more on customers :( | 09:23 |
| aspiers | but closer to Xmas hopefully it should get quiet leaving more time for this | 09:23 |
| aspiers | if you have any ideas about the process monitoring specs then please let me know | 09:24 |
| ddeja | good (for openstack community, maybe not for the customers) | 09:24 |
| ddeja | aspiers: of course | 09:24 |
| aspiers | hehe | 09:24 |
| aspiers | I don't think it can work with HTTP messages like with host recovery | 09:24 |
| aspiers | since Pacemaker has to initiate the monitoring and also receive the results, synchronously | 09:25 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yes, but it can also then send HTTP message | 09:25 |
| aspiers | the question is whether it should send HTTP message every time | 09:26 |
| aspiers | and when it should attempt recovery | 09:26 |
| aspiers | only based on HTTP response, or whenever it normally would recover? | 09:26 |
| aspiers | in the latter case, the recovery workflow engine could perform additional recovery | 09:27 |
| ddeja | aspiers: please remind me - process recovery is about restarting libvirt/nova compute? | 09:27 |
| aspiers | that's the first part | 09:27 |
| aspiers | but it could take stronger action after several failures | 09:27 |
| aspiers | like service-disable | 09:27 |
| ddeja | but, hm | 09:28 |
| ddeja | all of those could be performed inside the resource agent I guess | 09:28 |
| aspiers | yes but the idea was that the spec for monitoring should leave that totally flexible | 09:28 |
| aspiers | so that each cloud can decide its own policy | 09:28 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:29 |
| aspiers | so I am not sure exactly how it should work | 09:29 |
| ddeja | but hm, still I don't see a place where we should perform any http calls? | 09:29 |
| ddeja | it still can be done from the resource agent IMO | 09:29 |
| aspiers | I think maybe the RA should do normal process monitoring *and* recovery, but also send HTTP message when monitor fails and when starting/ending recovery | 09:30 |
| aspiers | then external engine can do any additional steps | 09:30 |
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| aspiers | if necessary | 09:30 |
| ddeja | that should work | 09:30 |
| aspiers | beekhof also suggested that every RA stop also does service-disable, and start does service-enable | 09:30 |
| aspiers | the problem is that the RA doesn't know if the stop is due to failed monitor or just a clean stop | 09:31 |
| aspiers | maybe it can track that internally | 09:31 |
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| aspiers | well, I'll try to write the spec and in the process hopefully we can figure out the best option | 09:31 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:32 |
| aspiers | but if you have ideas meanwhile, please tell me | 09:32 |
| ddeja | sure | 09:32 |
| aspiers | thanks | 09:32 |
| aspiers | OK, I have to go soon - anything else from you? | 09:32 |
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| aspiers | e.g. mistral updates? | 09:32 |
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| ddeja | not really | 09:32 |
| aspiers | OK no problem | 09:32 |
| ddeja | last week I was focused on presentation for meetup | 09:32 |
| aspiers | oh yeah, I heard it went well | 09:33 |
| ddeja | and in mistral I'm working mostly on gate | 09:33 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:33 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yes, it went OK | 09:33 |
| ddeja | and the fact that demo failed at middle step didn't broke everything ;) | 09:33 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:34 |
| aspiers | lol | 09:34 |
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| aspiers | it's not a real demo if it works ;-) | 09:34 |
| ddeja | Roman told me to get a printed chicken | 09:34 |
| aspiers | and rip it up before? | 09:34 |
| aspiers | I have done that in the past | 09:34 |
| ddeja | yes | 09:34 |
| aspiers | it works ;-) | 09:34 |
| ddeja | but I didn't | 09:34 |
| aspiers | well | 09:34 |
| aspiers | so it is your fault ;-) | 09:34 |
| ddeja | so that must be a case | 09:34 |
| aspiers | haha | 09:34 |
| aspiers | proof! | 09:34 |
| ddeja | I'll do it next time | 09:35 |
| aspiers | good ;-) | 09:35 |
| ddeja | also, next time I'll be jumping through commits instead of live coding ;) | 09:35 |
| aspiers | lol | 09:35 |
| aspiers | wow, live coding - nice :) | 09:35 |
| aspiers | I did that oncde | 09:35 |
| aspiers | once | 09:35 |
| aspiers | it was fun | 09:35 |
| aspiers | BTW when you review my host monitoring spec please let me know what you think about the section structure | 09:36 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:36 |
| aspiers | it is different to the others | 09:36 |
| aspiers | I need to update the template to match, so that tests pass | 09:36 |
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| aspiers | OK I have to go now | 09:36 |
| ddeja | no problem | 09:36 |
| aspiers | thanks a lot! | 09:36 |
| ddeja | thank you | 09:36 |
| aspiers | see you on #openstack-ha, bye :) | 09:37 |
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| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 09:37:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-14-09.08.html | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-14-09.08.txt | 09:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-14-09.08.log.html | 09:37 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting requirements | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 10:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 10:00 |
| tonyb | #topic rollcall | 10:00 |
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| tonyb | sigmavirus, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl | 10:00 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 10:00 |
| toabctl | hey | 10:00 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 10:00 |
| dirk | o/ | 10:00 |
| tonyb | woot! | 10:00 |
| tonyb | Getting the band back together :) | 10:01 |
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| tonyb | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 10:01 |
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| dirk | nothing major | 10:02 |
| prometheanfire | gate's been a little wonky lately, bot don't think so | 10:02 |
| tonyb | The kombu change is a little complex | 10:02 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/410176 | 10:02 |
| dirk | the only topic I have is whether or not we use upper-constraints for our own gating | 10:02 |
| tonyb | Yeah thet gate has been bad lately | 10:02 |
| tonyb | there was the docutils issue, then kombu + lots of other random failures | 10:03 |
| tonyb | sdague was right abiyt landing stuff in openstack/requiremenst geting hard with the more testing we add | 10:03 |
| tonyb | dirk: I'd like to here youre thoughts on that in open discussion | 10:04 |
| dirk | tonyb: wfm | 10:04 |
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| tonyb | #topic Requirements priorities for Ocata | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Requirements priorities for Ocata (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:04 | |
| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage | 10:05 |
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| tonyb | dirk's been doign the good work of adding constraints support to projects that are missing it | 10:05 |
| tonyb | we also need to work on the "incubated code" idea | 10:05 |
| tonyb | and tools around that | 10:05 |
| tonyb | dirk's also been working hard on geeting the constratints updates landed. | 10:06 |
| dirk | yeah, surprisingly easy | 10:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: can you give us aun update on the state of docker-py and pillow | 10:07 |
| dirk | I was expecting more complaints, but the docutils breakage greatly helped | 10:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: what can we do to help you | 10:07 |
| dirk | pillow is blocked on sphinxmark | 10:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay I'll poke bmoss | 10:07 |
| dirk | https://github.com/kallimachos/sphinxmark/pull/21 | 10:07 |
| tonyb | dirk: did you PR pass unit tests? | 10:07 |
| dirk | if anyone knows the maintainer and can poke him, this PR needs to get in and then we need release | 10:07 |
| dirk | for docker-py we're still facing issues with conflicts, I think it was tripleo last time I looked | 10:08 |
| tonyb | #action tonyb to talk to bmoss about sphinxmark | 10:08 |
| dirk | I can take a closer look today at that, maybe that is solved with the new tripleo-common release | 10:08 |
| dirk | #action dirk take a closer look at docker-py upper-constraints | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: that'd be awesom if you could look at that and drop an update into #openstack-requirements | 10:09 |
| dirk | the new Pillow release is imho just a minor fix | 10:09 |
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| dirk | I don't think anyone is waiting for it so its annoying that the bot proposes it constantly but I don#t think there is any issue due to that | 10:09 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay but it keeps coming up and causing you pain so we shoudl try to fix it | 10:09 |
| dirk | docker-py is more urgent as there are teams waiting for the uncapping | 10:10 |
| tonyb | ok | 10:10 |
| dirk | tonyb: well, my secret weapin is that the bot will search for all open reviews with a magic topic and reverse-apply those patches | 10:10 |
| dirk | and then I don't care anymore :) | 10:10 |
| tonyb | dirk: Huh really? | 10:10 |
| dirk | so far this secret weapon isn't implemented yet though, although I splitted the problematic components into separate reviews | 10:10 |
| tonyb | #action tonyb go looking at the code for the constartints update bot | 10:11 |
| prometheanfire | nice | 10:11 |
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| dirk | tonyb: so you'll implement that? or you just educate yourself about the code ? :) | 10:11 |
| dirk | tonyb: the docker-py is isolated in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406442 | 10:12 |
| dirk | I just rechecked that now, if it passes, we're good | 10:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: I mis understood. I thought you wre describing the state of the current code, not a new feature | 10:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: Thanks | 10:12 |
| dirk | tonyb: so far its only an idea, | 10:12 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay I see | 10:12 |
| tonyb | Can we get some people to look at that link I posted above and take a few projects | 10:13 |
| tonyb | We're kinda blocked on that for the rest of the "fun" work this cycle | 10:14 |
| prometheanfire | ya :( | 10:14 |
| tonyb | Perhaps I've over estimated what we can do in one cycle | 10:14 |
| dirk | not really | 10:14 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Thanks. | 10:14 |
| prometheanfire | I'll try, now that I have some time | 10:14 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: \o/ | 10:15 |
| dirk | tonyb: I think we can still do it. there is endless amount of time between christmas and new year, you know ;) | 10:15 |
| prometheanfire | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-track-constraints-usage right? | 10:15 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: ACK | 10:15 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure there is time but we're at milestone 2 and radically changing the infra of the whole openstack project after milestone3 is just a bad idea | 10:16 |
| tonyb | dirk: so I tink we might just need to focus on adding the support and tools this cycle | 10:16 |
| tonyb | then start again in pike | 10:16 |
| tonyb | with slightly more lead time as the difficult design work is done | 10:16 |
| dirk | maybe I'm misinformed, but wasn't the goal for ocata to just establish upper constraints everywhere and increase test coverage so that we can do the 2nd steps then? | 10:17 |
| dirk | maybe thats why I'm relaxed because I still think we can totally reach *that* goal :) | 10:17 |
| prometheanfire | we wanted it all | 10:17 |
| prometheanfire | all the the todo :P | 10:17 |
| tonyb | dirk: the goal was to hit divergent requirements in ocata | 10:17 |
| tonyb | dirk: but I underestimated the pre-conditions of that work | 10:18 |
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| dirk | I see. ok | 10:18 |
| tonyb | don't get me wrong more projects using constraints is a good thing and a reasonable outcome for the cycle | 10:19 |
| tonyb | We have until Jan 26th 2017 to hit that target | 10:19 |
| tonyb | Anything else for goals/priorities? | 10:20 |
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| tonyb | #topic Tasks from Etherpad | 10:21 |
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| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks | 10:21 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: I see you've been movign items from the tracking etherpad to open bugs/issues | 10:21 |
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| prometheanfire | very slowly | 10:21 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: slow forward progress is still forward progress | 10:22 |
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| prometheanfire | deps between 'bugs' is hard on etherpad | 10:22 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah I *think* that's one of the things in StoryBoard | 10:22 |
| prometheanfire | s/etherpad/launchpad | 10:23 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: before you do too many more it might be worth testing Storyboard for our task tracking | 10:23 |
| tonyb | One of the open issues is defining our electorate. | 10:23 |
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| dirk | tonyb: can you add me to the launchpad group= | 10:23 |
| dirk | it seems I can not close bugs.. | 10:23 |
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| tonyb | Does anyone object to me adding all the PTLs of managed projects as extra-atcs? | 10:24 |
| tonyb | dirk: I can try | 10:24 |
| coolsvap | dirk: i can do that for you | 10:24 |
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| tonyb | coolsvap: Thanks | 10:25 |
| dirk | coolsvap: thanks! | 10:25 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: sgtm | 10:25 |
| tonyb | #action coolsvap to add dirk as a requirements-driver | 10:25 |
| dirk | I agree a bugtracker is much better than an etherpad :) | 10:25 |
| tonyb | for the record I seem to have permission to do that thing I just can't find your LP account | 10:25 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: atm, I'll not be a core at least because of my lack of commits to this repo, at least I think | 10:25 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: s/core/atc/ ok | 10:26 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: we can verify and fix that | 10:26 |
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| coolsvap | tonyb: i also could not find the correct acount for dirk | 10:26 |
| prometheanfire | just mentioning | 10:26 |
| tonyb | of course it's only an issue if we're havign an election ;P | 10:27 |
| prometheanfire | lol | 10:27 |
| prometheanfire | bdfl | 10:27 |
| tonyb | coolsvap, dirk: dmllr and done | 10:28 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: :) | 10:28 |
| coolsvap | tonyb: i think we can keep the electorate to lower priority | 10:28 |
| tonyb | moving on? | 10:28 |
| tonyb | coolsvap: Sure but if we're going to do it we have a deadline to do it RSN | 10:29 |
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| tonyb | Jan 6th | 10:29 |
| tonyb | #topic Next meeting? | 10:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next meeting? (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 10:29 | |
| prometheanfire | that is likely right after next meeting | 10:29 |
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| tonyb | So with Christmas coming up I'm thinking that we shoudl skip meetings until Jan 4th | 10:30 |
| prometheanfire | fine by me :D | 10:30 |
| tonyb | that gives people a little more flexibility to take leave etc | 10:30 |
| coolsvap | i am fine either way (with or without meetings) :-) | 10:31 |
| dirk | wfm | 10:31 |
| tonyb | okay I think we'll skip'em | 10:32 |
| tonyb | #action tonyb to setup meeting skips ofr requirements meetings | 10:32 |
| tonyb | #topic Open Discussion | 10:33 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Tell me about using constraints in our own tox targets | 10:33 |
| dirk | tonyb: so I was thinking that it would make sense to use our own proposed upper-constraints for testing | 10:34 |
| dirk | currently our own check jobs are not using upper-constraints | 10:34 |
| dirk | (so not use upper-constraints from master git like everywhere else) but the current git version in the working copy | 10:34 |
| tonyb | dirk: Oh you'd like to add openstack/requirements to the gate-cross group alongside nova/glance etc? | 10:34 |
| dirk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406505/ | 10:35 |
| prometheanfire | adding golang technical requirements (email) to the list of things to discuss/mention | 10:35 |
| dirk | tonyb: just use the same way like we use it in other projects, but against the local copy so that we're selfgating changes to those files | 10:35 |
| tonyb | dirk: Ahh okay | 10:36 |
| tonyb | so we can't do that because many of out tools rely on the fact they're unconstrained | 10:36 |
| tonyb | dirk: if we only install the stuff in u-c how will the bot find new versions to suggest? | 10:36 |
| tonyb | dirk: what we *can* do is assess which tox environment need to be unconstrained and constrain the rest | 10:37 |
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| tonyb | dirk: which might just mean adding "install_commnd = pip install -U {opts} {packages}" to the [testenv:update] tox environment | 10:38 |
| tonyb | dirk: so from my POV as long as we do it carefully we shoudl totally do it | 10:38 |
| dirk | tonyb: yeah, good point, so the bot jobs need to be checked. | 10:38 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Yup | 10:39 |
| tonyb | Actually s/update/generate/ and I think that's probably enough | 10:40 |
| tonyb | dirk: Are you keen to look into this? | 10:40 |
| dirk | tonyb: sort of, yeah | 10:40 |
| dirk | lower prio | 10:40 |
| tonyb | dirk: Or do you think you can convince number80 or tobctl to help ? | 10:41 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure. | 10:41 |
| tonyb | dirk: if notthing else when we hit openstack/requirements in the constartints etherpad we can look at it then | 10:41 |
| tonyb | dirk: You also suggested we add openstack-requirements to global-requirements ... is that still somethign you think we shoudl do? | 10:42 |
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| prometheanfire | sounds like a good idea to me (adding us to gr), wonder who our downstream would be for that | 10:43 |
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| dirk | tonyb: yeah, I still thought its logical, but you -1#ed | 10:49 |
| dirk | I forgot the reason | 10:49 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: but g-r is about co-installability and no project shoudl depend on openstack-requirements that way | 10:49 |
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| prometheanfire | ya | 10:49 |
| prometheanfire | like I said, wonder what our downstream would be for that (to require us being added to gr) | 10:50 |
| dirk | tonyb: for me the reason was to control what version of openstack-requirements ends up in uc, but you said we can't restrict that anyway due to bootstrap issues | 10:50 |
| dirk | tonyb: so for me it is also okay to just abandon that review | 10:50 |
| dirk | tonyb: I don't see a major point in adding it in g-r | 10:51 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Are we seeing it in u-c? | 10:52 |
| dirk | tonyb: no | 10:53 |
| tonyb | dirk: phew! | 10:53 |
| dirk | tonyb: its not in there, and as you explained it shouldn't be in there | 10:53 |
| tonyb | dirk: okay | 10:54 |
| tonyb | Changing tac befoer we close. It seems that we need to alter our tox_install.sh in line with https://review.openstack.org/410018 | 10:54 |
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| tonyb | I'll do that tomorrow and as long as noone minds I'll update all the open reviews adding tox_install.sh | 10:55 |
| tonyb | and hope that we don't get more -1's | 10:55 |
| prometheanfire | :) | 10:55 |
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| tonyb | so with that in mind please keep your open updates listed in the etherpad | 10:56 |
| tonyb | Anything else? | 10:57 |
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| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 10:58 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 10:58 |
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| prometheanfire | nn | 10:58 |
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| devkulkarni | #tartmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 14:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni | looks like team members are not around. if anyone has any questions ping the team in solum irc channel. will end the meeting | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 14:17:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-14-14.00.html | 14:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-14-14.00.txt | 14:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-12-14-14.00.log.html | 14:17 |
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| jschwarz | \o/ | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| jschwarz | hey Swami | 15:00 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: haleyb be may be late for the meeting he is held up in a car service center. | 15:01 |
| jschwarz | Swami, okies | 15:01 |
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| Swami | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 15:02:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:02 |
| Swami | #chair Swami haleyb | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:03 |
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| Swami | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:03 | |
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| Swami | haleyb will join late today. | 15:04 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: do you have anything to discuss before haleyb joins | 15:05 |
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| jschwarz | Swami, only that I'm trying to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1648385 with no luck so far | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1648385 in neutron "Router is limited by the number of tenant networks" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:06 |
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| Swami | jschwarz: thanks for the link | 15:07 |
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| Swami | #topic Bugs | 15:08 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644415 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644415 in neutron "dvr_edge_ha_router disassociates floatingip incompletely" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhixin Li (lizhixin) | 15:09 |
| Swami | jschwarz: any update on this bug | 15:10 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/404571 - patch under review | 15:11 |
| jschwarz | jschwarz, no updates from me | 15:12 |
| Swami | jschwarz: ok thanks | 15:12 |
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| Swami | There is one new bug that has been reported against DVR, which is the gate failure. | 15:13 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649867 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649867 in tempest "Gate tempest dsvm neutron dvr test fails" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
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| Swami | the test failure does not provide any information on specific DVR failures. | 15:15 |
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| jschwarz | wc haleyb | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: no problem | 15:15 |
| jschwarz | Swami, aye, but it was on a dvr gate | 15:15 |
| * jschwarz has another meeting in 15 minutes :< | 15:15 | |
| haleyb | so do i | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | Swami: i don't think that's a dvr-specific gate failure, let me find the bug | 15:16 |
| Swami | jschwarz: yep but it seems that it is failing while trying to create the instance. | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes that's what I thought. | 15:17 |
| haleyb | it's a libvirtd crash | 15:17 |
| haleyb | bug 1643911 | 15:17 |
| openstack | bug 1643911 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt randomly crashes on xenial nodes with "*** Error in `/usr/sbin/libvirtd': malloc(): memory corruption:"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1643911 | 15:17 |
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| haleyb | i'll check the logs for it and mark as duplicate if it matches | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks that would help. | 15:18 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1403455 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1403455 in neutron "neutron-netns-cleanup doesn't clean up all L3 agent spawned processes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Daniel Alvarez (dalvarezs) | 15:18 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402140/ - patch needs review | 15:19 |
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| haleyb | i'll look, i know it was being changed yesterday | 15:20 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:20 |
| Swami | The next in the list is | 15:21 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1506567 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506567 in neutron "No information from Neutron Metering agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:21 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377108/ - patch needs review | 15:21 |
| haleyb | i'll re-review today, think it was good before i pushed last update | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:22 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1612804 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612804 in neutron "test_shelve_instance fails with sshtimeout" [High,Confirmed] | 15:22 |
| Swami | haleyb: Are we seeing these failures still in the gate. If not we should either close it or drop the priority. | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | I know i dropped it from critical to high, will check logstash | 15:24 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:24 |
| Swami | That's all I had for the bugs today. We don't have any new bugs other than the one that I mentioned here. | 15:27 |
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| haleyb | thanks Swami | 15:29 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate failures | 15:29 |
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| haleyb | There are no dvr-specific failures from what i can see, just the bug that Swami mentioned that i need to triage | 15:30 |
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| Swami | haleyb: that is good | 15:31 |
| haleyb | libvirtd crashing on xenial seems to be 5-10% failure in neutron | 15:31 |
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| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:31 |
| haleyb | #topic Stable backports | 15:32 |
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| * haleyb is looking at backport bugs | 15:33 | |
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| haleyb | So i don't see any active DVR backports :) | 15:33 |
| Swami | haleyb: I haven't paid attention to the backports in a while and also we have not merged anything in master yet | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | Swami: right, can't backport if we don't merge anything, the fip race condition would be the next candidate | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | As soon as that merged i'm clicking the cherry-pick button | 15:34 |
| jschwarz | my PC crashed, sorry if I missesd anything | 15:34 |
| haleyb | #topic Open discussion | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: no worries, we just assigned you all the bugs :) | 15:35 |
| Swami | jschwarz: you are fine. | 15:35 |
| jschwarz | yay! :P | 15:35 |
| Swami | haleyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385617/ we got a +2 from Oleg, but we need to hunt for another core for the second +2 | 15:35 |
| Swami | haleyb: we discussed last week, that we can push in a patch to make the multinode job voting if it is stable enough. | 15:36 |
| haleyb | Swami: i don't see garyk around, he's been following it, i'll keep an eye out for him, although nothing has changed, just the commit message | 15:36 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok thanks | 15:37 |
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| haleyb | Swami: yes, should get a patch up for dvr multinode | 15:37 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes if everything is good. | 15:38 |
| haleyb | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate seems ok with it, let me look over the past month again | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | Swami: the gate queue seems ok, but the check queue doesn't, but that could also just show bad code :( i'll propose the patch | 15:40 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:40 |
| Swami | haleyb: make sense. | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | i just need to verify what criteria (failures in past XX days) might apply, beena while | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | anything else? | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: I don't have any | 15:42 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: anything from you? HA in a happy place besides that bug? | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, nope, I'm good :) | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | ah | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | I have a patch for review | 15:43 |
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| jschwarz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407099/ is the patch, but I need to revisit it following Jakub's notes | 15:44 |
| jschwarz | that's it | 15:44 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: ok, i'm on that one so will review when i see jenkins happy. See there's a pep8 failure now? | 15:45 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, didn't :< | 15:45 |
| haleyb | s/See/Seems | 15:45 |
| haleyb | unused time import in neutron/tests/unit/agent/common/test_utils.py | 15:45 |
| haleyb | that and jakub's -1 | 15:46 |
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| haleyb | I did have one other thing - meetings for rest of year | 15:47 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes | 15:47 |
| Swami | haleyb: Are we going to meet again in 2017. | 15:48 |
| haleyb | Week of 26th is out obviously, but I am out next week, actually rest of year, so might be best to just cancel unless Swami and jschwarz want to meet :) | 15:49 |
| jschwarz | we don't have Christmas in Israel | 15:49 |
| jschwarz | :P | 15:49 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I am ok, coming back on 2017 | 15:49 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: you might have some other festivities, that Hannukah thing, but guess that's not one single day | 15:50 |
| haleyb | i did think redhat was shut-down, like HPE is | 15:50 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, it's a week | 15:51 |
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| jschwarz | World redhat has a shutdown,, but Red Hat Israel don't | 15:51 |
| Swami | jschwarz: that's bad. | 15:52 |
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| jschwarz | Swami, :) I had October off for Israeli holidays | 15:52 |
| jschwarz | it always comes around here | 15:52 |
| Swami | jschwarz: that makes sense. | 15:52 |
| haleyb | So I guess we had 2 votes for no more meetings this year | 15:53 |
| haleyb | I'll send an email to the list, although the three of us are the core of dvr so we already know :) | 15:54 |
| haleyb | if nothing else i'll end it | 15:55 |
| Swami | haleyb: jschwarz: Happy Holidays and Happy New Year. | 15:55 |
| jschwarz | bye guys! :) | 15:55 |
| haleyb | You too, adios | 15:55 |
| Swami | See you all in 2017. | 15:55 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| Swami | bye | 15:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 15:56:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-12-14-15.02.html | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-12-14-15.02.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-12-14-15.02.log.html | 15:56 |
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| rkukura | hi Sukhdev | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : hi | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks time for ML2 meeting | 16:01 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: your day to chair? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura : yes | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | great | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | who is here for ML2 meeting? | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | rkukura: waves back | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not see the usual crowd here yet | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I guess we can get started | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:05:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:05 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_December_14.2C_2016 | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody wants to discuss anything specific, feel free to add to the the agenda | 16:07 |
| rkukura | nothing from me today | 16:07 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev | There is one announcement I want to bring to the team's attention | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/108074.html | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: has that thread come to any conclusion? | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I do not believe so - but, I wanted to make sure everybody is aware of this | 16:09 |
| rkukura | I think they are leaning towards https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403829/ | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | right | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | I think that is a right direction - feel free to express your | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | openion | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | I have nothing else to announce | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has anything else? | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs/RFEs | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | andreas_s : are you here? | 16:15 |
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| andreas_s | hi | 16:16 |
| brianstajkowski | o/ | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | I reviewed the latest version of your spec - barring minor nits, it is looking good | 16:17 |
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| brianstajkowski | port binding? | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | yes | 16:17 |
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| brianstajkowski | ty, we are just waiting on the db portion and learning a bit about the mech drivers and I think we are very close | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev | anything you want to share? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | I mean any update | 16:20 |
| dasanind | db work is close to be done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404293/ | 16:20 |
| brianstajkowski | that's it for now, ty all for the feedback | 16:21 |
| dasanind | there are couple of errors on the new extension that we introduced fixing those | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | dasanind : thanks for sharing the status - I will review the patch as well | 16:23 |
| dasanind | Sukhdev: thank you :) | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Driver API - feature requests | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | yamamoto and rkukura : you had a good discussion last week | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | we decided we will go into details in Atlanta when we meet in person | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | right | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev | Anything specific you want to cover here? | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | nothing beyond what’s in the minutes from last week | 16:26 |
| yamamoto | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336068/ had a little progress | 16:26 |
| yamamoto | but nothing major. | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | yamamoto : thanks for pointing that out - I had not paid attention to this - will look over it | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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| yamamoto | nothing from me today | 16:29 |
| rkukura | me either | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | I will be off starting from 12/23 until end of year | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | I will not be around for 12/28 meeting | 16:30 |
| rkukura | I’m off the last week of December too | 16:30 |
| andreas_s | me too | 16:30 |
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| yamamoto | i guess it's safe to skip 12/28 | 16:30 |
| rkukura | So no meeting the 28th. What about the 21st? | 16:30 |
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| andreas_s | I should be available | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura : If you are around and can chair 12/21 - we can meet | 16:31 |
| rkukura | lets do it | 16:31 |
| yamamoto | i think i can attend. unless sleeping :-) | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | Ok - cool | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else? | 16:32 |
| andreas_s | no | 16:32 |
| rkukura | not from me | 16:32 |
| yamamoto | no | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks everybody | 16:32 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev! | 16:32 |
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| tbachman | Sukhdev: thanks! | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:32:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-14-16.05.html | 16:32 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:32 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-14-16.05.txt | 16:33 |
| dasanind | tahnk you | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-12-14-16.05.log.html | 16:33 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 17:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | timsim: Kiall sonu ping | 17:01 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:01 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Announcements (if any) | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | nothing that I have - other than there will be no offical Designate room at the PTG | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #info There will be no offical Designate room at the PTG | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | mugsie release python-designateclient | 17:02 |
| mugsie | that is releated to a later topic :) | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:03 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1648221 | 17:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1648221 in Designate "designate-dashboard needs to mod horizon in order to provide dns fields" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | invalid | 17:03 |
| Kiall | I saw this coming though, he's asked for it to be closed | 17:03 |
| timsim | Yeah, I thought that looked neutronish. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | its horizon ish | 17:04 |
| mugsie | (they need to set feilds) | 17:04 |
| timsim | sure | 17:04 |
| timsim | mugsie there's still this one for you I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1627941 | 17:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627941 in Designate "Zone transfer accept is forbidden for the non admin users " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Graham Hayes (grahamhayes) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | thyere was a conversation in #openstack-horizon | 17:04 |
| timsim | But that's it. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | k | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | oh - derp. I don't have these handy | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | :D | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | Come back in a few ;) | 17:05 |
| Kiall | Grabbing em now. | 17:05 |
| mugsie | k | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | #topic Ocata 2 Release (mugsie) | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | I am about to do a release for designate, the dashboard, and the client | 17:06 |
| mugsie | does anyone see anything outstanding that needs to be included? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | if not, when https://review.openstack.org/409971 merges I will do the release | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Not that I know of | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Why bother waiting on that? | 17:07 |
| Kiall | It's a whitespace diff in the test-requirements? | 17:07 |
| mugsie | (I missed the o-1 release so we need to do this one :)) | 17:07 |
| mugsie | well, its the translkatiojns in the patch ahead I really care about | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | I think you linked the wrong patch ;) | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | but to avoid the linter in o/releases giving out about missing commits, it is easier | 17:08 |
| mugsie | ah - https://review.openstack.org/410603 | 17:08 |
| mugsie | both are in the gate | 17:08 |
| Kiall | Ah, fair enough | 17:08 |
| mugsie | so, just letting them merge | 17:08 |
| timsim | coolio | 17:09 |
| mugsie | ready Kiall ? | 17:09 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | ? | 17:09 |
| Kiall | yea | 17:09 |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/592376/ | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | (Tab finding failure) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | The pgSQL one, that needs a backport? and possibly the devstack/grende ones, if not already done? | 17:10 |
| mugsie | pgSQL is done afaik | 17:10 |
| Kiall | ah | 17:10 |
| mugsie | oh, maybe not the lowercase constraint | 17:11 |
| mugsie | and grenade needs it as well | 17:11 |
| timsim | Yeah the lower constraint/grenade stuff | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie bp 26a7ad4 Remove lowercase constarint for pgsql and 13ee3fb Fix grenade to use the driver specified in the gate | 17:11 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | can cores look at the outstanding reviews ? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | I will be off for the next few weeks, so will have time to do some clean up for this cycle | 17:12 |
| mugsie | so if people can get stuff merged - that would be great :) | 17:13 |
| mugsie | also - I would suggest we cancel meetings until the new year ? | 17:13 |
| timsim | Bump for 348535 | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | timsim: ack | 17:13 |
| mugsie | filler: welcome :) | 17:14 |
| timsim | yeah that seems legit, I'll be out soon too | 17:14 |
| mugsie | cool - will send email to the ML | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | any thing else ? | 17:14 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: do we have docs for designate HA? | 17:14 |
| mugsie | sonuk_: no | 17:14 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: ok | 17:14 |
| mugsie | what sort of HA docs are you looking for ? | 17:15 |
| sonuk_ | mugsie: i am looking for designate HA in active standby | 17:15 |
| mugsie | multi region ? | 17:15 |
| sonuk_ | ya a kind of | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | OK, we can look at that | 17:16 |
| mugsie | can you file a bug, and make it as a docs bug ? | 17:16 |
| sonuk_ | sure. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | anything else on the table ? | 17:17 |
| timsim | I'm good for now. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | goijng once | 17:18 |
| mugsie | twice | 17:18 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 17:18:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-14-17.00.html | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-14-17.00.txt | 17:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-12-14-17.00.log.html | 17:18 |
| mugsie | see ya'll later o/ | 17:18 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:18 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:19 |
| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:19 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:05 |
| mvandijk | hello? | 18:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 18:05:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:05 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:05 |
| amrith | sorry I'm late folks | 18:05 |
| pmalik | 😯/ | 18:05 |
| mvandijk | o/ | 18:05 |
| dloi | o/ | 18:05 |
| amrith | peterstac, thanks for prodding me | 18:05 |
| peterstac | np ;) | 18:05 |
| schang | o/ | 18:05 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:06 |
| amrith | #topic Review status | 18:06 |
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| amrith | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJxNaoR3VVNS1Cpiz7U--1zyJRZ6ybMxzJoayrjdduo/edit?usp=sharing | 18:06 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:06 |
| amrith | I don't have much to say about this other than that we've at least got a working gate and stuff is merging | 18:06 |
| amrith | we got cluster upgrade framework in, awesome | 18:07 |
| amrith | and a bunch of other things | 18:07 |
| peterstac | actually, I think the gate is broken again :( | 18:07 |
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| amrith | oh, hadn't noticed | 18:07 |
| amrith | what broke? | 18:07 |
| trevormc | o/ | 18:07 |
| peterstac | dib builder changed stuff about how vitualenv is installed (I think) so now kick-start fails | 18:07 |
| peterstac | I'm looking into it now (I was able to repro the failure locally) | 18:08 |
| amrith | here we go again :) | 18:08 |
| peterstac | yep :) | 18:08 |
| trevormc | if there is something you think i can handle peterstac, let me know. | 18:08 |
| johnma | o/ | 18:08 |
| trevormc | I was learning a few things watching you fix it last time :) | 18:08 |
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| amrith | peterstac, that's interesting | 18:09 |
| amrith | I've been building images locally just fine | 18:09 |
| amrith | but my tree is 2d old | 18:09 |
| amrith | so that must be it | 18:09 |
| peterstac | Yeah, I think the patch merged last night | 18:09 |
| peterstac | #link https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/commit/3e777cd8f4e7237151f71637a0ef8230692b96ae | 18:10 |
| amrith | ok | 18:10 |
| amrith | ping greghaynes if you need help with it peterstac | 18:11 |
| amrith | anything else about review status/velocity etc? | 18:11 |
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| peterstac | we're trending in the right direction :) | 18:12 |
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| greghaynes | oops :( | 18:13 |
| amrith | most definitely peterstac | 18:13 |
| amrith | hi greghaynes | 18:13 |
| greghaynes | yes, ill be around if you want to chat about what the fail is | 18:13 |
| greghaynes | hey | 18:13 |
| amrith | appears that we have some gate issues related to a dib change; peterstac is looking into it | 18:13 |
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| peterstac | it seems to be failing because virtualenv isn't being installed | 18:13 |
| greghaynes | awesome, it may be that you are now using python3 | 18:13 |
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| greghaynes | hrm, I have to run to a quick meeting but we can chat in either -trove or -dib in a bit if you havent figured out the detils | 18:14 |
| peterstac | Well if that's the case we're in for a world of hurt, since we've never run our code entirely under python3 :D | 18:14 |
| peterstac | ok greghaynes, thx! | 18:14 |
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| amrith | #topic Code Reviews | 18:16 |
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| amrith | ok, moving along | 18:16 |
| amrith | does anyone have a review or reviews that they would like to discuss? | 18:16 |
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| trevormc | If we could get this patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400979/ then I can start uploading other commands for the osc adoption. | 18:17 |
| peterstac | trevormc, I'll take a look at that | 18:18 |
| trevormc | thanks if anyone is curious of my progress you can take a look here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-support-python-openstackclient | 18:18 |
| trevormc | its also on the white board for the blueprint | 18:18 |
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| amrith | anyone have thoughts on this review? | 18:18 |
| amrith | I haven't looked at it yet | 18:19 |
| trevormc | There are a few procedural things that need to be done before merging it | 18:19 |
| dougshelley66 | trevormc i may have missed them but i didn't see any "module" commands on that etherpad | 18:19 |
| trevormc | yeah module commands are not on the spec currently. | 18:20 |
| trevormc | I think for this release we want to have the "core" (I'm not sure what these are) commands available for use and add the rest in the next release | 18:20 |
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| peterstac | sure, but that doesn't mean they can't be in the spec :) | 18:21 |
| dougshelley66 | ok - it wasn't clear to me if the etherpad was everything or just the current scope | 18:21 |
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| trevormc | i can add them to the spec no problem | 18:22 |
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| trevormc | i made the etherpad myself, my intentions were for the the entire scope but right now it's only the commands that are in the spec. | 18:23 |
| trevormc | Do I need to recheck all the Depends-on patches for this review? | 18:25 |
| trevormc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402780/ | 18:25 |
| peterstac | trevormc, eventually, yes - but not until thegate is fixed :) | 18:26 |
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| amrith | ok, any other reviews to discuss ... | 18:27 |
| amrith | we've kind-of discussed specs already | 18:28 |
| amrith | so let's move there | 18:28 |
| amrith | #topic Specs that are up for review | 18:28 |
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| amrith | ok, hearing nothing ... | 18:29 |
| amrith | #topic Ocata Release Schedule - Update | 18:29 |
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| amrith | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 18:30 |
| amrith | I will be marking o-2 tomorrow (Thursday) | 18:30 |
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| amrith | the changes for this are alread up and marked WF-1 | 18:30 |
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| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/410432 | 18:30 |
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| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/410431 | 18:30 |
| amrith | https://review.openstack.org/410429 | 18:30 |
| amrith | I will mark them good to go tomorrow afternoon | 18:31 |
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| amrith | anyone have any questions about ocata schedule? | 18:32 |
| peterstac | I'm good | 18:32 |
| amrith | . | 18:32 |
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| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 18:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:34 | |
| amrith | anyone have anything else they want to discuss | 18:34 |
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| amrith | . | 18:35 |
| peterstac | Still good ;) | 18:35 |
| amrith | thanks everyone, have a good afternoon | 18:36 |
| peterstac | thx! | 18:36 |
| trevormc | thanks | 18:36 |
| amrith | let's use the 20+m we just saved and do some reviews | 18:36 |
| amrith | like of trevormc's change from above | 18:36 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 18:36:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-14-18.05.html | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-14-18.05.txt | 18:36 |
| peterstac | (but no rechecks just yet!) | 18:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-12-14-18.05.log.html | 18:36 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 20:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hello everyone. | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | I know some folks can't make it today, so it might be a little light on attendance | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom | Ocata-2 milestone this week | 20:01 |
| xgerman | hope it’s not just us two ;-) | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 20:01 |
| perelman | Hi | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Hi perelman | 20:01 |
| perelman | It's just three of us :) | 20:01 |
| perelman | Hi all | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Just a reminder, Ocata is now in the last stretch towards Ocata-3 milestone. | 20:02 |
| perelman | I have a question - whe | 20:02 |
| johnsom | We still have our merge priority review list: | 20:02 |
| perelman | Are there dates for the next mid cycly | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ocata-merge-review-priority | 20:02 |
| perelman | Ecycle | 20:02 |
| blogan | hello | 20:03 |
| johnsom | perelman Currently the next meet up is going to be the PTG | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 20:03 |
| diltram | o/ | 20:03 |
| * xgerman hoping he figures out how to attend | 20:03 | |
| johnsom | Feb 20-24 | 20:03 |
| kobis | Hi | 20:03 |
| perelman | Sorry for mistakes - a bit strange keyboard | 20:03 |
| johnsom | NP | 20:04 |
| perelman | So we won't have a separate mid cycle. | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | hello everyone | 20:04 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | Hi there. | 20:04 |
| diltram | hey people | 20:04 |
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| johnsom | Any other announcements before we head into progress reports/ patches needing review? | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Folks might also be interested in the "community goals" for Pike. See the mailing list for the discussion. | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:05 | |
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| johnsom | Ok, Nir had two on the agenda that have been hanging around a while. Both related to the legacy namespace driver | 20:06 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344658/ | 20:06 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ | 20:06 |
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| johnsom | I think some folks have started reviews/ testing on those | 20:06 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:06 |
| xgerman | hi rm_work | 20:07 |
| johnsom | A number of us have been working through the diskimage-builder issues. Ugh, what a bunch of issues opened by that change | 20:07 |
| johnsom | We are down to some issues with the amphora-agent under the new python3 environment | 20:08 |
| johnsom | At least as far as I can see | 20:08 |
| nmagnezi | thanks a lot for your cycles for ^^ , please ping me for any question you might have | 20:08 |
| nmagnezi | (the patches johnsom linked) | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Any other updates? | 20:09 |
| johnsom | #topic Meeting schedule for the next few weeks | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting schedule for the next few weeks (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:09 | |
| johnsom | So number of folks have holidays over the next few weeks. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | I would like to cancel the 28th as most folks in the US will be taking time off (myself included). | 20:10 |
| rm_work | +1 | 20:10 |
| diltram | +1 | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Do you want to meet next week or should we follow other teams and cancel it as well? | 20:10 |
| nmagnezi | happy holidays guys :) | 20:10 |
| johnsom | I guess asking another way, are you all going to be around next Wednesday? | 20:11 |
| rm_work | I could probably make it, but not sure how much we'll have | 20:11 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, i think that if anything urgent comes up we can just communicate via mail this time. | 20:11 |
| * johnsom Hopes a celebration that the DIB issue is resolved | 20:11 | |
| nmagnezi | +1000 | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Ok, so no strong signal either way, so I think we should cancel the next two week's meetings and pick up again on the 4th of January. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | I will send a note out to the mailing list and update the agenda pages | 20:13 |
| johnsom | #topic Meeting time discussion | 20:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting time discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:14 | |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-weekly-meeting-time | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Please remember to put your timezone information on the etherpad. | 20:15 |
| johnsom | It still looks a little light for the folks that participate in the meeting. | 20:15 |
| kobis | Yet crowded with people who usually don't - as this hour is tough on us :) | 20:16 |
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| johnsom | kobis Maybe have some options/recommendations for times when there is a channel available for the 4th meeting? | 20:16 |
| kobis | I guess that we should wait till we have some more feedback before we suggest anything? | 20:16 |
| diltram | +1 in my opinion | 20:17 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that was why I was thinking the 4th meeting, but I'm happy to delay. | 20:17 |
| nmagnezi | kobis, are there any specific votes we are waiting to see? | 20:17 |
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| kobis | Nms | 20:18 |
| kobis | A | 20:18 |
| johnsom | I would have expected to see some of the asia-pacific area folks to jump in as well. | 20:19 |
| kobis | I guess that most of the poeple who are around the US haven't voted/noted | 20:19 |
| kobis | And none from India and Eastern Asia | 20:19 |
| kobis | At least at the last time which i checked | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Yeah, so maybe a bit more time and a reminder in my e-mail about the meeting cancellation. | 20:20 |
| johnsom | #topic legacy namespace driver upgrade path after the merge (nmagnezi) | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "legacy namespace driver upgrade path after the merge (nmagnezi) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:21 | |
| nmagnezi | hi everyone | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | so, i added this to the agenda: "[nmagnezi]: Due to neutron-lbaas and Octavia merge, we should discuss the Newton -> Ocata upgrade path for haproxy in namespace users (Howto)." | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | So i think the topic name actually says it all :) , that is actually a question / a start of discussion about the situation of upgrades for current user of the old driver. | 20:21 |
| johnsom | To start this topic I should probably mention, given where we are at with the merge work and Ocata-2, I doubt we will be moving drivers in Ocata. | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, if we won't make it, will ppl you use the old driver need to activate some sort of proxy to keep it running? | 20:22 |
| nmagnezi | i mean a pass through proxy for the API | 20:23 |
| johnsom | No, for the Ocata cycle we will probably end up staying the way we are. | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Just having the API running in Ocata, but not yet used/advertised as an endpoint. | 20:23 |
| johnsom | My hope for the legacy driver is to just need a database migration, but given how intertwined it is with neutron, it may require more. | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | aye, but since we don't know for 100% what will be the situation at the release of Ocata (maybe we will make it..), are we sure that will be the case for the old driver users? | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | if not, i'm willing to help with this and maybe write some spec / doc , but i will need guidance :) | 20:25 |
| * johnsom thinks "nothing is ever sure in OpenStack" | 20:25 | |
| nmagnezi | +1 | 20:25 |
| nmagnezi | :D | 20:25 |
| johnsom | Since work to move the legacy namespace driver has not started, I can't give you more of an answer. | 20:26 |
| xgerman | not sure why we need the namespace driver - is there a requirement octavia doesn’t meet | 20:26 |
| xgerman | ? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | If you would like to start that work, please do | 20:26 |
| johnsom | xgerman +1 | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman, operators take their time to move forward | 20:26 |
| kobis | Unless there's someone who actually use it... and would like to upgrade | 20:26 |
| johnsom | It's a good question. My feeling is a number of folks are actively using it. It would at least need to go through deprecation cycle | 20:27 |
| johnsom | I know heat and magnum are using it for testing | 20:27 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, xgerman, i know it is being used, the future is Octavia of course, but some folks take time to adopt new things. | 20:28 |
| johnsom | That said, I think they could change | 20:28 |
| diltram | this is why we have deprecation time | 20:28 |
| xgerman | well, octavia has been around for years now ;-) | 20:28 |
| diltram | and we gonna work on migrations tools | 20:28 |
| xgerman | diltram don’t make promises like that | 20:29 |
| diltram | ? | 20:29 |
| nmagnezi | xgerman, for the debian tribe ;) , when I finish with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331841/ our customers can also adapt Octavia | 20:29 |
| nmagnezi | adopt* | 20:29 |
| kobis | xgerman: if anyone has a customer who uses it outside of openstack testing projects then they'll have to migrate | 20:29 |
| xgerman | diltram migration is hard and I am not sure if we should suck it out of DB and recreate in octavia | 20:30 |
| xgerman | nmagnezi awesome | 20:30 |
| kobis | And as we never officially announced that namespace driver is deprecated... why should they make an effort | 20:30 |
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| xgerman | kobis don’t get me started why that was never announced | 20:30 |
| * xgerman looks at blogan | 20:30 | |
| kobis | :D | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Ha | 20:31 |
| nmagnezi | kobis, as long is it was not deprecated officially, you cannot force ppl not to use it :) | 20:31 |
| kobis | My point exactly | 20:31 |
| johnsom | Well, there are two steps here. One, migration to legacy namespace driver running under Octavia API. | 20:31 |
| * blogan xgerman looks back confused | 20:32 | |
| johnsom | The other would be migration to using octavia driver instead of legacy namespace. Two different problems | 20:32 |
| * blogan cant type | 20:32 | |
| kobis | Maybe we should do that asap and avoid the challenge of having namespace under octavia | 20:32 |
| johnsom | We can try, but I expect folks to come out of the woodwork (so to say) saying they need it. | 20:33 |
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| xgerman | johnsom, well then they can support it | 20:33 |
| kobis | I wasn't serious about this | 20:33 |
| johnsom | We could start with a mailing list post asking about it's use | 20:33 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:33 |
| nmagnezi | kobis, i would vote against it for now, as long we cannot use octavia without neutron-lbaas | 20:33 |
| blogan | well it'll cause those people to need more capacity in their nova deploys, so i assume it'll cause some people issues | 20:33 |
| johnsom | True | 20:34 |
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| johnsom | But free up like 100 network nodes, so.... GRIN | 20:34 |
| blogan | lol | 20:34 |
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| * xgerman thinks we should have build that wall between neutron and nova | 20:34 | |
| kobis | :) | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Ok, no harm in sending out a survey e-mail. "Raise your hand if you are using the legacy namespace driver" | 20:35 |
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| johnsom | I just expect to see a lot of hands... | 20:35 |
| blogan | i expect to see very little because the people who are using it won't be paying attention to the ML | 20:35 |
| kobis | When do we expect nlbaas to be out of business? | 20:36 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Did you get enough info out of that conversation? | 20:36 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, for now yes, thank you :) | 20:36 |
| johnsom | kobis Realistically at our current rate, it would be Pike when nlbaas is just a pass through proxy. | 20:36 |
| johnsom | We just don't have enough in place at the end of Ocata-2 to start moving drivers | 20:37 |
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| blogan | kobis: are you going to be able to do that conduit between the neutron plugin and an octavia driver? | 20:38 |
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| kobis | I do - idk if ill have that ready this week... | 20:38 |
| rm_work | did devstack change something with the version of qemu-kvm that gets installed??? like, NOW? | 20:38 |
| rm_work | bleh | 20:38 |
| rm_work | all the sudden lots of dep issues on centos7 | 20:39 |
| blogan | kobis: oh yeah that'd be surprising if you did | 20:39 |
| johnsom | rm_work Don't know | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Ok, let's move on. | 20:39 |
| johnsom | #topic Octavia event notifier blueprint | 20:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Octavia event notifier blueprint (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:40 | |
| johnsom | There is a proposed blueprint and patch up | 20:40 |
| johnsom | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/octavia/+spec/octavia-event-notifier | 20:40 |
| johnsom | It is being driven by the senlin folks. | 20:40 |
| xgerman | I reviewed that patch and they have some work to do | 20:41 |
| johnsom | I have some concerns about it | 20:41 |
| johnsom | I am also very rusty on that olso notifications stuff they are using. | 20:41 |
| xgerman | well, it’s just a shim over rabbit topics | 20:41 |
| johnsom | I am interested in the rest of the community comments on this proposal | 20:41 |
| johnsom | Yeah, it's more publish-subscribe than the queuing we are using now right? | 20:42 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, sorry for asking but what is senlin? | 20:42 |
| kobis | Im guessing that his should enable stats and status collection form lbaas? | 20:42 |
| johnsom | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Senlin | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Don't be sorry, I had to look it up myself. | 20:43 |
| nmagnezi | oh, yet another open stack project i didn't knew existed | 20:43 |
| nmagnezi | nice :D | 20:43 |
| xgerman | there are new ones every day | 20:43 |
| johnsom | My initial question is do we want to enable this type of messaging or drive folks towards just using the API. | 20:43 |
| johnsom | There are trade offs both ways in my oppinion | 20:43 |
| xgerman | to kobis using some topic might be the wrong approach for stats | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Then I want to make sure we don't ddos the oslo messaging queues because there is nobody subscribed to these | 20:44 |
| xgerman | johnsom as long as it is pluggable we can do both | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that was also a bit different | 20:44 |
| kobis | xgerman: sure - maybe we should just advise about how _we_ prefer to implement stats | 20:44 |
| xgerman | yeah, and make them all use kafka :-) | 20:45 |
| johnsom | zeromq | 20:45 |
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| johnsom | So, I'm not hearing feedback that it's bad in concept, we just need to work on implementation details. | 20:46 |
| johnsom | I get fidgety when we are integrating with other projects outside of the API.... | 20:47 |
| xgerman | yeah, but we were talking about some pluggable reporter all along | 20:48 |
| johnsom | Ok, please comment any concerns on the blueprint and patch | 20:48 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:48 |
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| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 20:48 |
| xgerman | Horizon?! | 20:48 |
| xgerman | we need to see if we can get that to work again | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Ok, what about it. I asked if folks could help with it last week. More on that topic? | 20:49 |
| xgerman | do we have a list of what is broken? | 20:49 |
| johnsom | Yes, I think ankur-gupta-f was looking at it. | 20:49 |
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| xgerman | ok, cool | 20:49 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron-lbaas-dashboard | 20:50 |
| johnsom | That is the bug list for it. | 20:50 |
| johnsom | That is a good place to start | 20:50 |
| diltram | ankur failed on this | 20:50 |
| johnsom | I don't think ankur-gupta-f got very far looking at it however. | 20:50 |
| xgerman | yeah, noone of us is horizon | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Right, I think all of the folks that were working on it have changed jobs now.... | 20:51 |
| johnsom | So, help is needed. | 20:51 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:51 |
| xgerman | who is the PTL over there those days? | 20:52 |
| johnsom | I am, it is now an Octavia project | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Or are you asking about horizon? | 20:52 |
| xgerman | yep, horizon | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Richard Jones | 20:52 |
| xgerman | ok, wil look him up | 20:53 |
| johnsom | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/horizon.html | 20:54 |
| johnsom | Any other topics for the last few minutes? | 20:54 |
| xgerman | he likes to fix bugs: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103515.html | 20:55 |
| xgerman | :-) | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Grin | 20:55 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks folks. Enjoy your break from Octavia/LBaaS meetings! | 20:56 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 20:56:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-14-20.00.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-14-20.00.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-12-14-20.00.log.html | 20:56 |
| nmagnezi | bye guys | 20:56 |
| diltram | bye | 20:56 |
| kobis | Bye | 20:56 |
| xgerman | bye | 20:56 |
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