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moshelevladikr: I guess we should wait for  ndipanov he said that he will be late13:04
vladikrmoshele, hey, I guess so13:05
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ndipanovhola13:13
ndipanovmoshele, vladikr and any others13:13
ndipanovsorry for being late13:13
moshelehi13:13
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lbeliveahey13:14
lbeliveanp13:14
ndipanovso I guess let's start and see where we are13:14
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ndipanov#startmeeting sriov13:14
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ndipanovok so13:14
ndipanovsome specs have landed13:15
ndipanovothers ... not so much13:15
ndipanovis there anything that we may want to push for as an exception?13:15
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ndipanovthe one I would be most confident about is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/13:18
ndipanovmoshele, ^13:18
moshelendipanov: I tried to push it from kilo13:18
lbeliveaI'm surprised it hasn't been accepted yet13:19
mosheleI think it is ready for core reviewer review13:19
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ndipanov#action nikola to ping johnthetubaguy about this one13:20
ndipanovmoshele, you have the code posted too, right?13:20
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moshelethis is the code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/13:21
moshelethe bp merge a while back13:21
ndipanovyep found it13:21
ndipanovwhat do you mean?13:21
moshelesee https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213428/13:21
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ndipanovah so the spec has merged?13:22
ndipanovI missed that part13:22
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ndipanovshould scroll down13:22
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ndipanovok so I was talking about specs13:23
ndipanovthe only spec that we've been tracking that seems to have missed the deadline and does tno have a -1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/13:24
ndipanovand shahoe does not seem to be here atm13:24
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ndipanovbut I think he spoke about johnthetubaguy about it so let's move on13:25
johnthetubaguyits on the list of exception requests I think13:25
ndipanovcool thanks johnthetubaguy13:26
moshelendipanov: can you add agenda link to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#SR-IOV/PCI_Passthrough_Meeting like in the other meetings13:26
ndipanovmoshele, yeah I guess so13:27
moshelethanks13:27
ndipanovmaybe we can use an etherpad instead of a wiki13:27
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ndipanovsince this is mostly useful for people to pop their ideas on it13:28
moshelefine by me13:28
vladikrsure13:28
ndipanov#action ndipanov to update the meeting with agenda etherpad link (which he will first create)13:28
ndipanovok then - any ongoing review concerns (other than that there is not enough reviewing going on)?13:29
lbeliveaI have a few reviews that are stuck in the pipeline13:29
mosheleand I have the libvirt workaround patch13:30
ndipanovshoot13:30
ndipanovunless there is nothing else that we want to talk about we can even look at them now13:30
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lbeliveahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/216049/7 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242555/2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/13:31
moshelehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/227160/13:31
lbeliveafor my part, a lots of +1, need reviews from core13:31
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ndipanovlbelivea, ok looking13:33
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ndipanovbtw if anyone has anything else - please bring it up13:37
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moshelendipanov: I updated the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking a little, so It seems we have 5 patches which are ready for core reviewer13:42
ndipanovmoshele, thanks13:42
ndipanovawesome13:42
moshelenp13:43
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mosheleanother thing in the past  we also kept track of neutron SR-IOV issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=sriov-pci-pt13:45
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mosheleso I just wanted to let you know of this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1523083 which I am planning to resolve13:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1523083 in neutron "launch a vm with macvtap port is not working with kernel < 3.13" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele)13:46
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ndipanovmoshele, nice13:49
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ndipanovlbelivea, nitpicky review here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216049/713:52
ndipanovsorry :(13:52
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lbeliveandipanov: np, comments are welcome, I just want them to move forward13:52
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lbeliveandipanov: thanks !13:55
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ndipanovok meeting coming to an end...13:58
ndipanovwill do the reviews and talk to you guys in 2 weeks13:58
lbeliveaperfect13:59
ndipanovalso there is a series up from vladikr starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249013/13:59
ndipanovwould be awesome if we could review it too13:59
ndipanovit might be missing tests I think but could still use your vigilant eyes :)13:59
ndipanov(not a candidate for core review list just yet)13:59
ndipanov#endmeeting sriov14:00
lbeliveaI will have a look14:00
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moshelevladikr: so please update the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking14:00
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moshelebye14:00
lbeliveabye14:00
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ndipanovciao14:00
vladikrthanks, bye14:00
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dprince#startmeeting tripleo14:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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trembleo/14:01
jistro/14:01
trown|BOSo/14:01
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tzumainnhiya!14:01
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akrivokaohai \o14:02
dprincehello all14:02
jaosorioro/14:02
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dprince#topic agenda14:03
dprince* bugs14:03
dprince* Projects releases or stable backports14:03
dprince* CI14:03
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dprince* Specs14:03
dprince* confirm that people are okay with *not* renaming tripleo-common just yet, even though we're placing the API code in there (tzumainn)14:03
dprince* open discussion14:03
dprince^^^ that looks like the agenda today (from the wiki)14:03
dprinceokay, lets get started14:04
dprince#topic bugs14:05
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trown|BOS#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/152192214:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521922 in tripleo "CentOS delorean has migrated to aodh but we haven't yet" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to John Trowbridge (trown)14:05
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trown|BOSThis one is the only thing (as of last week anyways) blocking working trunk delorean14:05
trown|BOSfor RDO anyways, where we dont have the luxury of pulling some subset of packages from current14:06
dprincetrown|BOS: I like that you are a BOS(s) today14:06
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dprincetrown|BOS: I saw your patch yesterday and was waiting for the -ha CI to pass before sending it14:07
trown|BOSEmilienM is working on actually replacing the alarm functionality, but I put up two patches to do the removal part since it does not currently work anyways14:07
dprincetrown|BOS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253716/14:07
trown|BOSdprince: there is a similar patch needed for THT14:07
adarazso/14:07
EmilienMthis morning I sent a patchset to make the upgrade working from ceilo to aodh14:07
trown|BOShttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/253717/14:07
EmilienMit should pass CI14:07
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EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/241412/14:08
dprinceEmilienM: thanks, will review these things14:09
dprincetrown|BOS: so it sounds like RDO is always going to be at risk for breakage from us because we treat some packages as "special" and build them inline14:09
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trown|BOSdprince: that is fine though... RDO current does not need to be stable14:10
trown|BOSdprince: as long as we can get a stable snapshot, and keep moving it forward14:10
dprincetrown|BOS: okay14:10
trown|BOSwe just dont have a starting point yet for trunk14:11
dprince#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/152294314:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522943 in tripleo "UpdateDeployment on non-controller roles can leave packages not updated" [High,In progress] - Assigned to James Slagle (james-slagle)14:11
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dprincelooks like slagle is working on that critical bug ^^^14:11
slaglei've posted a patch and would like some reviews14:11
dprincewould be good to review that soon too14:11
dprinceslagle: cool, thanks14:11
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dprinceany other bugs to highlight this week?14:12
dprince#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:13
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dprinceanyone have an update on stable branch progress this week14:13
rhalliseyya I do14:14
slaglei wanted to mention that we're going through and doing releases from the stable branches14:14
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slagleand as part of that, will be bumping the major versions on the master branches14:14
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dprinceslagle: cool, for all the tripleo projects?14:14
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slaglewhich means releasing a 1.0.0 for some of the projects14:14
slagledprince: yea, eventually14:14
rhalliseyslagle, are you doing the releases?14:14
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slaglerhallisey: for some, not all of them14:15
rhalliseyslagle, who's doing tripleo-heat-templates and tripleo-image-elements?14:15
rhalliseyI just want those to be picked up in the next puddle14:15
slaglemarios was going to start looking at tht14:16
slaglethere is no timeframe on when it will be done14:16
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rhalliseyI'll volunteer to help to speed it up14:17
rhalliseyif that's ok14:17
slaglesur14:17
slaglee14:17
rhalliseycool14:17
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rhalliseydprince, I have a bunch of backports for stable liberty.  Should I mention the patch set?14:17
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rhalliseyall container related14:18
dprincerhallisey: probably wait for open discussion for the containers patches...14:18
rhalliseykk14:18
dprincerhallisey: any other updates here though?14:18
rhalliseydprince, nothing else14:18
dprince#topic CI14:19
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dprincewe look to be running fairly smoothly. I noticed a few HA job failures which might need a closer look14:19
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dprince#topic Specs14:23
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dprinceThe composable roles spec is still under review... good feedback last week but we are still discussing the possability of using Heat resource chains to implement some of the internal features there14:24
* dprince would like the external (Heat parameters) interface to be very simple though14:24
dprinceI noticed Steve Baker posted a nice spec about enhancing tripleoclient (or whatever) with extra output about heat software deployment failures14:26
dprince#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251587/14:26
dprinceI noticed this last Monday... but worth mentioning here14:27
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dprinceany other specs to highlight this week?14:28
dprince#topic one off agenda items14:29
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dprincetzumainn: your up14:29
tzumainnhiya!  okay, I just wanted to confirm that people are okay with not renaming the tripleo-common repo14:30
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tzumainnfrom recent IRC conversations, it seems like most people think that renaming is premature, and I agree that it just seems to add extra work at a time when we're trying to add a bunch of new code14:30
tzumainner, that's all I had14:31
dprincetzumainn: cool, yeah I tend to agree14:31
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jistryea +1 for not renaming just yet14:32
trown|BOSrisk v. reward seems to favor not renaming at this point14:32
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tzumainnokay, awesome14:34
dprincecool, moving on14:34
dprince#topic open discussion14:34
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dprincerhallisey: you mentioned some containers stuff?14:34
rhalliseydprince, ya I have a bunch of backports14:35
rhalliseyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/254408/114:35
rhalliseythat patch chian14:35
rhalliseychain*14:35
trown|BOSsweet14:35
akrivokajust a gentle reminder about the ui spec, it hasn't been getting any attention recently (sorry I missed to mention in the spec topic)14:36
akrivoka#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239056/14:36
dprinceakrivoka: ack, thanks for mentioning this14:37
derekhdprince: on CI, sorry missed topic change while in a meeting14:37
derekhThe rh1 overcloud is in a funny state, I've spent a little time trying to figure it out but havn't managed it yet, out of office all week so wont have a chance to look this week.14:37
derekhtoo many instances are going to the error state, nodepool can't delete them so they are using up nodepools quota.14:37
derekhthings are only working because I'm running "nova reset-state" on instacnes in the error state every day or two(this allows nodepool to delete them).14:37
dprincederekh: oh snap, I didn't realize we had this happening14:38
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dprincederekh: any pattern, like possibly a bad compute node or two?14:39
derekhdprince: yup, its been happening since we had the nodpool regression a week two ago14:39
derekhdprince: that regression caused lots of VM's (LOTS) to constantly get created and destroyed,14:39
dprincederekh: would a stale (perhaps invalid) floating IP be the cause14:39
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derekhdprince: im thinking it provolked something,14:39
derekhhaven't noticed a pattern14:40
dprincederekh: yeah, nodepool is aggressive14:40
trown|BOSprovolked?14:40
derekhAnyways, I can get back to digging into it next week, but in the mean time if anybody else wants to take a look...14:41
dprincetrown|BOS: yeah, provoked. It picked a fight with us man14:41
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trown|BOSah... haha14:41
derekhtrown|BOS: *provoked14:41
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* derekh can't spell14:41
dprincederekh: thanks for the update14:42
derekhnp14:43
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dprinceI mentioned this in14:46
dprincethe workflow email list this week... but I posted a Mistral demo yesterday14:46
dprince#link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnAT37O-sdw14:46
dprince13 minutes if you are at all interested in the TripleO workflow discussions14:47
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trown|BOShavent watched the demo yet, but looked over the bulk introspection POC14:48
* derekh downloads for air plane viewing14:48
trown|BOSI think that will be a big improvement14:48
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jristI think the ui people were looking into it as well14:48
jristright jtomasek ^ ?14:48
* trown|BOS pictures derekh watching that 32 times in a row14:48
dprincederekh: I hope you like my voice a lot14:49
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derekhtrown|BOS: I'll put the speakers on to see what everybody else thinks14:49
jrist:)14:50
jtomasekjrist, dprince: yeah, we're looking forward to the meeting in 40 minutes14:50
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dprinceokay, It sounds like it is all crickets now so lets call it14:51
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dprincethanks everyone14:52
tzumainnthanks all!14:52
jdob\o14:52
trown|BOSthanks14:52
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dprince#endmeeting14:52
derekhbye all14:52
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jistrbye14:52
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matrohonhi all15:01
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 15:01:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
tmorinhi everyone15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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tmorinhi doude, pcarver, timirnich15:02
tmorinhi matrohon15:02
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doudehi15:02
matrohonlet's wait a few minutes to have a more crowded room15:02
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matrohonmay be a day off in germany :)15:06
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matrohontmorin, doude let's move on?15:10
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tmorinok !15:10
doudeok15:10
matrohonI did an agenda15:10
tmorinlink ?15:10
matrohon#link : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/BGPVPN#Agenda15:11
matrohon#topic reaminig bugs15:11
tmorinwe need to decide on auto-aggregate15:12
matrohonso you are very close to our first release15:12
matrohonfew bugs remains15:12
matrohonlet's start by auto aggregates bug15:12
tmorinthe proposition in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252519/ consist in removing all code related to auto-aggregate15:12
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tmorinbecause no driver is supporting the feature today15:13
matrohon#link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/152232515:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522325 in bgpvpn liberty "auto-aggregate flag not implemented" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange)15:13
tmorinthe idea is to be ready to revert the removal once drivers start supporting it15:13
tmorin#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252519/15:13
tmorinlet suggest the people who will read the IRC meeting log to vote/comment on this change15:13
tmorinif everybody is ok will proceed15:14
matrohonhope they will read it :)15:14
tmorinyes :)15:14
tmorinif not, I guess we will proceed by default and release without any auto-aggregate code15:15
tmorinnext bug ?15:15
matrohon#link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-bagpipe/+bug/152279715:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522797 in BaGPipe "bagpipe: update bgpvpn attachement of an existing port does not work" [Critical,Confirmed]15:15
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matrohonI wonder if it's still a bgpvpn issue?15:15
tmorinno it is not, the fix will land soon in networking-bagpipe15:15
doude+1 to remove auto-aggregate15:15
matrohongreat!15:16
tmorindoude: can you +1 in the gerrit change as well ?15:16
doudetmorin: sure15:16
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tmorinnext bug ?15:16
matrohon#link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/147899815:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1478998 in bgpvpn liberty "de-duplicate route_targets and {import,export}_rts" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon)15:16
tmorinthis one may need a bit of discussion15:17
tmorinit is a pretty minor thing15:17
tmorinbut the question is about reverting a choice made earlier15:17
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tmorinspecifically what is documented here: #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/specs.html#database-design15:18
tmorinthe proposal is to *not* do what is described at the link above, and keep the DB as-is15:18
tmorinmotivations are documented in the bug15:18
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matrohonto sum up : we're moving the pain of consolidating route-targets submitted by cloud admin to the drivers15:18
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tmorin"pain" being a big word for a trivial operation :)15:19
matrohondoude : is there any validation of RT in the contrail driver15:19
tmorinunion of sets15:19
tmorinRTs to be used for exports = union ( export_rts, route_targets )15:20
doudematrohon: you mean the formated string representation of a RT ?15:20
matrohondoude, yep15:20
tmorinI think matrohon means avoiding having an RT both in export RTs in Route Targets15:20
tmorinah, sorry15:20
doudematrohon: yes, there is15:21
matrohondoude, great!15:21
tmorinmatrohon: the API already does a validation, doesn't it ?15:21
matrohontmorin, I don't think it validate overlaps15:21
doudethat seems logic to let the driver validate it15:21
doudenot realy the driver but the SDN controller used by the driver15:22
* tmorin looking at the code15:22
matrohondoude : +115:22
doudenetworking-bgpvpn cannot validate the overlap15:22
doudesome RT can be added/deleted on the SDN controller in other way that networking-bgpvpn15:23
matrohontmorin, it validates that one list has no overlap, but doesn't validate that there is no overlap between RT and import RT for instance15:24
tmorinmaybe there is something to check here in the contrail driver15:24
doudetmorin: to validate the overlap into the requested list?15:25
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tmorinreading the opencontrail driver code I think there might possibly be an issue if an RT is both in route_targets and import_rts15:25
matrohondoude : yep15:25
tmorinsee https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/7f141ecfa2673dcd3da06f3de712e051541b24db/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/opencontrail/opencontrail.py#L12815:25
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doudetmorin: no beacause if the RT already exists it re-uses it https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/7f141ecfa2673dcd3da06f3de712e051541b24db/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/opencontrail/opencontrail.py#L5115:26
tmorindoesn't this line make an RT import only, event if it was given as an import/export RT 5 lines above ?15:26
tmorinyou know better15:27
tmorindoesn't the new link overwrite the previous one ?15:27
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tmorinline 123 the RI is linked to the RT as an import/export RT15:27
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tmorinI wonder if at  line 128 the RI is linked with the RT as an import-only RT, thus possibly overwriting the previous link ?15:28
doudetmorin: yes true15:28
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doudeperhaps bgpvpn plugin can make clean of overlap before sending RT lists to the driver?15:29
tmorina nice way to fix this would be to have helpers function usable by all drivers to retrieve import_export_rts, import_only_rts, export_only_rts, all_export_rts, all_import_rts15:29
tmorindoude: that would be another possibility15:30
* tmorin thinking again15:30
tmorinwell no15:30
tmorinthat would have the same drawback as the drawback discussed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/147899815:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1478998 in bgpvpn liberty "de-duplicate route_targets and {import,export}_rts" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon)15:31
tmorinbecause the modified sets would be stored in the DB15:31
tmorinI like better the idea of helper functions15:31
matrohonwe could have a comon method to generate a consolidated list based on the 3 list15:31
tmorinalso, different drivers may have different needs15:32
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tmorinsome drivers will want all imports RTs unioned15:32
tmorinsome drivers will want the common import/export RTs and separately the import-only RTs15:32
tmorinmatrohon: see my suggestion above (helpers function for import_export_rts, import_only_rts, export_only_rts, all_export_rts, all_import_rts)15:32
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doudetmorin: yes15:33
tmorinmatrohon: but it's better to make it more than one function15:33
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matrohontmorin : makes sense, let's start with what is needed but the current drivers first15:33
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tmorinbagpipe code will benefit from that as well (https://github.com/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/blob/7f141ecfa2673dcd3da06f3de712e051541b24db/networking_bgpvpn/neutron/services/service_drivers/bagpipe/bagpipe.py#L197)15:35
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tmorinhow do we prioritize that vs the release ?15:35
matrohondoude, however if you conssolidate before sending to contrail, you will fall in the bug, since RT lists submitted by the client won't be stored anywhere, am I wrong?15:36
tmorinthe bug in contrail would be worth fixing, but can possibly wait for later ?15:36
matrohondoude can you fix the contrail driver first, quickly, and then we consolidate with a common method?15:37
doudematrohon: the bug is not very important imo15:37
tmorinok, so let's track the contrail issue in a bug for next release, and the helper improvement in an rfe bug for next release ?15:38
matrohontmorin, +115:38
doudeit appears only if the admin does not prvide correctly the RT lists15:38
doudeyes15:38
tmorindoude: +115:39
matrohon#topic release15:39
matrohonI discussed earlier with ttx15:39
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matrohonthe situation is confusing currently, and it's going to be discussed in today's infra meeting15:40
matrohondo we want to stay in neutron or be a standalone project? that's one of the main question15:41
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tmorinthe questions relates to the branch that may result from the first release15:42
tmorinthe initial assumption was that a release from our master would create a stable/liberty branch15:43
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tmorinmy understanding is that unless a decision is made to advertise the stability of a branch via a tag (rather than the branch name), we will have to use a branch named backport/liberty or something like that15:44
tmorinI'm guessing we need to have a decision on this branch before the release button can be pushed15:44
tmorinarmax, dougwig : ^^15:44
tmorinmestery: ^^15:45
tmorinrussellb: ^^15:45
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tmorinwestern america is likely to be asleep at this time15:50
tmorinthe best conclusion we have is that we need to get in touch with neutron PTL and core developers to see what needs to be decided before the release button can be pushed15:51
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matrohon+115:52
matrohon#topic : open discussion15:52
matrohonwe could have the first meeting in french language in the history of openstack :)15:53
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matrohonenikher, hi15:53
doude:)15:53
enikherhello15:53
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matrohonenikher, you're late by one hour :)15:54
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enikheryes sorry, had a conflicting meeting15:54
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tmorinhi enikher15:54
enikherI just wanted to see the results of todays discussion15:54
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tmorinanything to add ?15:54
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tmorinI fear you'll have to read the logs :-(15:54
enikherAP for me?15:55
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enikhersure I will do15:55
enikher:-)15:55
tmorinnot really, we wouldn't dare in your absence :)15:55
tmorinif you want to give a status on kilo backport, or on heat, or anything else, go ahead15:55
tmorinapart from that, there are two bugs on which feedback is expected before we proceed15:55
enikherI am spending more time on the fuel plugin at the moment15:56
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enikherwe have an internal review process for HEAT plugin at the moment15:56
enikherthat will need more time15:56
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enikherthe backport kilo branch looks stable beside the fact the neutron client still has to be patched15:57
enikherthats all15:57
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tmorinok, thanks for the status15:57
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tmorinanything else before we wrap up ?15:58
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enikhercould it be a good idea to add audio to this meeting?15:59
enikherjust as we doing for opnfv?15:59
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tmorinenikher: this is not the usual Openstack "way of life"16:01
enikherok16:01
tmorinsince the audio isn't archived we'd lose a lot of the benefits16:01
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tmorinwe have to free the floor16:02
enikherah ok understood16:02
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tmorinthanks everyone!16:02
tmorinbye !16:02
tmorin#endmeeting16:02
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers16:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 16:02:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'containers'16:02
adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-12-08_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:02
adrian_otto#topic Roll Call16:02
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:02
daneDane LeBlanc16:03
tbhtbh16:03
wanghuao/16:03
houmingHouMing Wang16:03
TangoTon Ngo16:03
hongbino/16:03
rpothierRob Pothier16:03
yanghyHongyang Yang16:03
bradjoneso/16:03
eghoboo/16:03
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daneyon_o/16:03
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adrian_ottohello dane tbh wanghua houming Tango hongbin rpothier yanghy bradjones eghobo daneyon_16:03
jugglerPerry Rivera o/16:03
adrian_ottohello juggler16:04
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jugglerhello aotto!16:04
adrian_ottolet's begin16:04
adrian_otto#topic Announcements16:04
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adrian_ottoany announcements from team members?16:04
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Kennano/16:04
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items16:05
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adrian_otto1) adrian_otto to raise "#link https://review.openstack.org/250999 Add docker-bootstrap (wanghua)" for discussion in next week's agenda16:05
adrian_ottothis will be complete by the conclusion of today's meeting16:05
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adrian_ottoI see the addition of a second that was not part of last weeks agenda, but for sake of inclusion: Yang Hongyang to raise discussion of "#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252779 Remove unnecessary setting of default node_count"16:06
adrian_ottowe can address that in the subsequent agenda items, so stand by for that16:06
adrian_otto#topic Container Networking Subteam Update (daneyon)16:06
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yanghysorry, seems I added that to the wrong place16:06
daneyon_i was on vacation last Thurs16:07
daneyon_we did not have a subteam meeting16:07
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adrian_ottoyanghy: no worries. we will cover it.16:07
daneyon_we will resume this Thurs16:07
adrian_ottook, thanks daneyon_16:07
daneyon_yw16:07
adrian_otto#topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones)16:07
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bradjoneshey16:07
bradjonesanother one of the detail pages has merged this week16:08
bradjonesso only one left but there are some merge conflicts on it so needs a little work16:08
bradjonesthere is a problem when running magnum-ui against master horizon16:08
bradjonesI'm trying to track down the issue at the moment16:09
bradjonesworks fine against horizon stable so I imagine it is just a requirement change16:09
bradjoneswill post a bug shortly and get a fix out asap16:09
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bradjonesthat's all from me16:09
adrian_ottook, thanks16:09
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adrian_otto#topic Essential Blueprint Updates16:10
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adrian_ottothis is the part of the agenda where owners of "Essential" blueprints update us on progress16:10
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adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/mitaka Mitaka Blueprints16:10
adrian_ottowe currently have 8 of them, which is too many to cover in the allocated time16:11
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adrian_ottoso what I will do it just poll the team here for a moment to see if there are any of these that deserve an update or team discussion this week16:11
adrian_ottodimtruck: maybe you?16:11
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adrian_ottofor https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-tempest16:12
dimtruckhi adrian_otto16:12
adrian_ottoI marked that one as started16:12
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dimtruckupdate for that is still working on plugin.  i'll have the full update next week.  it is definitely started.16:12
adrian_ottoshould it be considered further along?16:12
dimtruckis the next step "in progress"?16:13
dimtruck(i don't really know)16:13
adrian_ottoare there other BP's in that list of 8 Essential ones that should be marked as Started as well?16:13
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dimtruckadrian_otto: good progress16:13
adrian_otto"Good Progress" is a way to indicate it's on track for completion16:13
adrian_ottook, I will mark it accordingly16:13
tbhadrian_otto, I want to discuss on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-conductor16:13
dimtruckyes sir!  that's the one :).16:13
tbhadrian_otto, I need some direction to get it completed16:14
adrian_ottook, we can do that in just a sec16:14
adrian_otto^^ tbh16:14
adrian_ottoany other remarks on Essential BP's before we advance?16:14
tbhadrian_otto, sure16:15
TangoI will mark mine as Started.  Madhuri has volunteered to help.16:15
adrian_ottotbh, we have one to cover first, and then we will come back to yours.16:15
tbhadrian_otto, okay16:16
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252779 Remove unnecessary setting of default node_count (yanghy)16:16
adrian_ottoyanghy: youre up16:16
yanghyHi, there's problem that16:16
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adrian_otto#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1465097 Related bug16:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465097 in python-magnumclient "Wrong node-count in bay-list" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Yang Hongyang (hongyang-yang)16:17
yanghyfrom original bug report, it seems the magnum client pass None to api when node-count is not specified16:17
yanghyThose 3 lines then been added to address that problem16:17
adrian_ottook, so how can we help today?16:18
yanghysince now we have fixed the client, the client won't pass None to api16:18
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yanghyI thought those lines can be removed16:18
KennanREST API can pass NOne16:18
TangoI think one of the comment is that client is different from API16:19
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yanghyYes, so the question here is we need to do parameter check on API side16:19
hongbinKennan: I think REST API cannot pass "None" (string)16:19
adrian_ottoyes, we should16:19
vilobhmm11yanghy : why not check at the client level itself and throw an exception if None ?16:19
yanghyvilobhmm11, client already fixed16:20
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Kennanyanghy: did you check you code work with "None"16:20
yanghythere's no way now that client will pass None16:20
yanghyto api16:20
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adrian_ottowe could have a func test for it16:20
Kennanyanghy: mean REST API16:20
TangoCan a different client pass None to the API?16:21
yanghyREST API could pass None, just revert my client patch and ommit --node-count16:21
tcammannI swear someone tries to "fix" this every couple months16:21
yanghyclient will pass None to magnum API16:21
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wanghuaI think wsme should deal with it16:21
adrian_ottotcammann: why does it keep coming up?16:22
yanghyYes, so we need more check on API side16:22
tcammannadrian_otto: It inconsistent use of the API16:23
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tcammannBut if we are adding this value to do the db, this needs to be consistent16:23
yanghyif we keep this 3 lines, these lines is also not enough16:24
yanghybecause users can pass 0 to API16:25
yanghythrough REST16:25
tcammannI think we can continue this discussion on the patch itself16:25
yanghywe also need to convert 0 to 1 ?16:25
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Kennanyanghy: if i remeber clearly, you fixed way should include also address https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/152266816:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522668 in Magnum "magnumclient not have good validation for node_count" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Yang Hongyang (hongyang-yang)16:26
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adrian_ottook, let's table this. To best facilitate this, I think we should be looking at a concrete proposal.16:26
Kennanin future fix(I mean)16:26
yanghyKennan, yes16:26
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wanghuaWe should add type validation in magnumclient16:27
TangoI think part of the of the problem is that there are different opinions about how to treat default behavior when the count is None or 016:28
adrian_ottoyanghy: let's take this one to them mailing list so we can get a solid sense of where the inconsistencies are, and what options we have for addressing them.16:28
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yanghyadrian_otto, sure, thanks16:29
adrian_ottothat will give the team a solid basis to help drive to a decision point16:29
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adrian_ottoI'm happy to bring it up again next time16:29
adrian_ottoif needed16:29
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-conductor (tbh)16:29
adrian_ottotbh: you're up16:29
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tbhadrian_otto, as discussed in ML, we decided to have container-create to support json-file16:30
tbhand let COE-conductor will decide on the input16:30
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adrian_ottothe blob needs to be the same text that the native client would expect16:31
adrian_ottoin most cases that's actually YAML, not JSON16:31
adrian_ottowe must avoid any temptation to invent a new DSL for a COE16:31
tbhbut I think python docker client does not accept JSON16:32
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hongbinYes, re-inventing a new DSL for container-create is my concern16:32
adrian_ottoit expects YAML, right?16:32
vilobhmm11tbh : agree16:32
tbhadrian_otto, no it depends on COE native specifiv16:32
adrian_ottoso we should simply be passing this text blob straight through to the COE, not interpreting or parsing it in any way.16:33
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hongbinFor swarm, docker CLI doesn't tak bolb, docker compose does16:33
vilobhmm11jfyi, even in case of k8s we use YAML16:33
Kennanseems docker and mesos not quite same for container-create16:33
adrian_ottothe rationale for this feature is so users can access advanced features of the COE without needing to implement a bunch of COE specific resources in the Magnum API16:34
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hongbinHere is my proposal. Introduce a new action to pass bolb directly to native API. Like magnum create -f FILE16:35
adrian_ottoMy understanding is that most cloud operators expect to create a bay, and hand the user credentials to interact with the native API for that COE from that point forward16:35
tbhbut users will confuse with the difference between magnum create or magnum pod-create or magnum *-create16:35
adrian_ottothe only ones who care about container-* methods are those who want quotas on container creation, and related usage events16:36
vilobhmm11hongbin : then how will the request going through magnum be different than native client16:36
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adrian_ottovilobhmm11: it coudl be subject to a rate limit or a nested quota16:36
adrian_ottobut from a functional perspective they could be equivalent16:36
hongbinvilobhmm11: Not much different. The point is to re-use the native DSL16:36
Kennanright now, I think invent mesos conductor seems not bring much benefits. (only we can unify COES objects interface for users)16:36
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tbhKennan, but we don't have any interface for the user to create apps for mesos bay16:38
adrian_ottotbh: that's okay16:38
adrian_ottountil we have a cloud operator who wants to give access to those capabilities through magnum16:39
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adrian_ottorather than through Marathon directly16:39
adrian_ottowould anyone wanting to do this please speak up now?16:39
adrian_ottoI'd really like this pursuit to be based in actual use cases.16:39
eghobojust idea ;), DCOS has interested approach for native clients, e.g. dcos kubectl ...16:39
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vilobhmm11adrian_otto: If i understand correctly you don't want magnum api being a proxy for native client apis ?16:41
adrian_ottoeghobo: yes, but I am looking for the alternate point of view16:41
adrian_ottovilobhmm11: I think we offer limited value there16:41
vilobhmm11adrian_otto : Thats my point of view too16:41
adrian_ottoso why worry about this unless we are convinced someone has a good reason to use it16:41
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Tango+1, we should go by use cases16:42
hongbinIn summary, I am -1 on passing bolb through container-create, because swarm don't have a DSL for creating a single container16:43
adrian_ottoI'm all for consistency in the API, and I won't turn away good contributions, but I want us to focus on making Magnum the best combination of infrastructure and container tech, not to re-implement the wheel16:43
yanghyadrian_otto, there's another point of view is that unified COEs just like what libvirt does16:43
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yanghythat could be another project though16:43
yanghynot magnum's duty16:44
adrian_ottoyanghy: Yes, I'd like to find someone who wants that for a production use case. I want to understand that point of view.16:44
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adrian_ottoand I'm happy to get that from another project16:44
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adrian_ottomy understanding is that libcontianer =~ libvirt where container :: vm16:45
adrian_ottoif that makes sense16:45
adrian_ottowhich is really out of scope for Magnum16:45
tbhadrian_otto, Okay. can we put workflow -1 for the patches I pushed the BP?16:46
adrian_ottothe justification I expect to hear back is that someone wants to limit the rate at which containers are created, or the total number that can be created, or account for them with usage events.16:46
adrian_ottoif those are not the motivating reasons then we probably should reconsider the pursuit16:46
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adrian_ottotbh: well workflow-1 means that reviewers can be aware of this work but not consider it for merge yet16:47
adrian_ottois that your intent?16:47
tbhadrian_otto, yes16:47
adrian_ottoif you want to withdraw the work, then you can use "abandoned" for that16:47
adrian_ottototally up to you16:48
tbhadrian_otto, but I really consider to have interface for mesos COE through magnum16:48
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adrian_ottook, thanks tbh. Let's revisit this again later. I will change my tune when I see real use cases.16:49
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tbhadrian_otto, till we get a suitable use case, we can work on another BPs I guess16:49
tbhadrian_otto, sure thanks!16:49
adrian_ottothere were a few open discussion topics, so I will open it for that now, and call attention to each16:49
adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion16:49
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adrian_ottoEli Qiao raise gate error http://logs.openstack.org/87/253987/1/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-k8s/9eb5206/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt libvirtError: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: Cannot set up guest memory 'pc.ram': Cannot allocate memory16:50
adrian_ottoeliqiao: yt?16:50
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adrian_ottoRelated:16:50
adrian_otto#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/152123716:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1521237 in Magnum "Gate occasionally failed with nova libvirt error" [Undecided,New]16:51
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adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254370/ Log the failure on elastic-recheck16:51
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adrian_ottoAny thoughts on this? If not, we have one more to hit today.16:51
adrian_ottook, here is the other one:16:52
adrian_ottowanghua raise "How to improve docker registry in magnum?"16:52
Kennanis it nova bug? or libvirt ?16:52
vilobhmm11shouldn't this be opened against nova ?16:52
vilobhmm11Kennan : +116:52
vilobhmm11if its that frequent16:52
wanghuaIt seems it is caused by lack of memory.16:53
vilobhmm11let me file a bug for nova…16:53
adrian_ottokeep in mind that a bug can reference multiple project if it's not clear where it's happening16:53
hongbinKennan: vilobhmm11 It doesn't seem so. Basically, the problem is that our gate is running out of memory16:53
adrian_ottoso just add nova to the existing bug16:53
adrian_ottoit can be removed later if this turns out to be a Magnum issue16:53
vilobhmm11hongbin : ok..let me check the logs in detail…adrian_otto: sure16:53
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adrian_ottosounds good16:54
yanghyKennan, vilobhmm11 , hongbin , JFYI libvirt code in nova is under heavy refactor currently16:54
Kennanhongbin: I think nova guys can give some valuabel hints what is that issue16:54
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Kennanif they thought not related, it maybe magnum part16:54
houmingadrian_otto Do we have enough time to disscuss this one? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252222/  (Add fixed_subnet to Baymodel Object)   Bug here: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/151974816:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1519748 in Magnum "bay-creation return 400 Bad Request with a valid fixed-network in baymodel" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Hou Ming Wang (houming-wang)16:55
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adrian_ottohouming: sure, for a couple of min16:56
houmingThe 'fixed_network' actually means 'fixed_network_cidr', or more precisely 'fixed_subnet'. which way is better to fix this?:  1. Rename the 'fixed_network' to 'fixed_subnet', in Baymodel DB, Baymodel Object and MagnumClient.  2.  Leave 'fixed_network' alone, add a new field 'fixed_subnet' to Baymodel, and use the 'fixed_subnet' to take the place of current 'fixed_network'.16:57
TangoI vote for #1, simpler to implement and to the point16:58
adrian_ottothis is a contract breaking change16:58
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adrian_ottoso it should really be in a new API version16:58
adrian_ottoI don't like the idea of having multiple attributes for doing essentially the same thing16:59
adrian_ottowe are approaching the end of our scheduled time16:59
adrian_ottoour next team meeting will be on Tuesday 2015-12-15 at 1600 UTC. See you then. It may be the last meeting of the year, resuming again in January, depending on interest.16:59
Kennanwe discuss in that patch16:59
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Kennancan discuss17:00
jugglerthank you for coordinating adrian17:00
adrian_ottoKennan: I'll comment there as well, thanks.17:00
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adrian_ottoyou're welcome juggler17:00
adrian_ottothanks everyone for attending17:00
jugglerand thanks all for your participation17:00
adrian_otto#endmeeting17:00
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sergmelikyan#startmeeting murano17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 17:00:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'murano'17:01
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sergmelikyano/17:01
freerunnero/17:01
kzaitsev_mbo/17:01
sergmelikyanWelcome to our weekly meeting :)17:01
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kzaitsev_mbshame enthurohini is not here today. Gotta ping her to see if she actually can make it to this meeting. wonder which TZ she lives in17:03
stan_laguno/17:03
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I believe its UTC +5:3017:03
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sergmelikyanhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda - our agenda for todays meeting17:04
sergmelikyan#topic Action Items Review17:04
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kzaitsev_mbI've finished mine with the bps17:05
kzaitsev_mbsuperceeded one with the other and updated description on the 2d one17:05
kzaitsev_mb#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/better-package-dependency-ui17:05
ativelkovo/17:05
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: thank you :)17:06
freerunnerI've finished investigation of rtfd hooks ;)17:06
freerunnerNow we have rtfd post job on review17:06
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freerunner#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254855/17:06
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kzaitsev_mbwow, great!17:07
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sergmelikyanawesome!17:08
freerunnerkzaitsev_mb: It turned out, it's easier than I thought17:08
ativelkovcool!17:08
sergmelikyan#topic Dropping Milestones and Blueprints17:08
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: next topic is added by you - proceed please )17:09
kzaitsev_mbso the idea is — many projects start abandoning using milestones and blueprints.17:10
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kzaitsev_mbThe general direction is that launchpad will no longer be used to track what has been done17:11
kzaitsev_mbby openstack projects — just to track what is about to be done17:11
kzaitsev_mbfor tracking what has been done we would use RENO anyway17:11
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kzaitsev_mb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081435.html17:12
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stan_lagunkzaitsev_mb: it is hard to use list of bugs without understanding if they were fixed already on not17:12
kzaitsev_mbhere is the thread from Ironic guys, where they discuss the same idea17:12
kzaitsev_mbstan_lagun: as soon as the commit lands the bug is going to be moved to Fix Released17:12
kzaitsev_mbstarting today17:12
sergmelikyanthis does have sense, tho I am sure that we should not do that in Mitaka17:13
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: yep. I'm not pushing this, tbh.17:13
kzaitsev_mbI just wanted for you guys to be aware of the direction openstack and it's release tracking tools are heading.17:14
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kzaitsev_mbI'm not 100% sure on the milestones part of the idea. But I kind of like the blueprints part. We use/have specs anyway17:16
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I think this is logical continuation of the idea of moving train17:16
kzaitsev_mbSo a feature either requires a spec or does not require a blueprint and can be tracked as a bug..17:17
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: I actually like idea of stop using milestones - what the reason to have them?17:17
kzaitsev_mbWell what I want is to make you think a bit on these 2 ideas =)17:17
sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: Already do :)17:17
ativelkovSo, does this mean that every landed patch will result in a tar all?17:17
ativelkovTarball*17:17
stan_lagunblueprints currently are the only way to track dependencies between features17:18
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kzaitsev_mbativelkov: for stable branches starting with liberty this is the case17:18
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kzaitsev_mbstan_lagun: fair point. but do we use this feature?17:18
sergmelikyanativelkov: it's already happening - on each commit there is a tarball17:18
sergmelikyanI mean there is only one tarball which is rebuilt on each commit17:19
ativelkovI see17:19
stan_lagunkzaitsev_mb: I do. For complex features with a lot of tasks it make sense to use17:19
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: ativelkov: well actually I haven't released one for L. Plan to do, maybe this week =) We had a number of patches land there17:19
stan_lagunalso blueprint is the place where you can save a link to etherpad17:19
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freerunnerkzaitsev_mb: What about for tracking new tests, for example? Test is not a feature...17:22
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kzaitsev_mbLet's do it this way — I'd write an email to ML, summarising pros and cons of both of these ideas and we'll have a discussion there. Then after we have a couple of opinions I'll add the same item to our meeting agend again, to finalise the decision? What do you think?17:23
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freerunnerkzaitsev_mb: Agreed.17:23
kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb outline pros and cons of abandoning milestones & bps in ML17:25
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kzaitsev_mbk, so we kind of like the idea of not using milestones and kind of dislike the idea of not using BPs =)17:27
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kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: let's move to open discussion maybe? =)17:33
sergmelikyanI thought we already there )17:33
sergmelikyan#topic Open Discussion17:34
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kzaitsev_mbseems a bit slow today =)17:36
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kzaitsev_mbI suggest we end the meeting early today =)17:43
freerunner+ ;)17:44
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kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: ^^17:45
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sergmelikyan#endmeeting17:56
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification20:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 20:00:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)"20:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'20:00
gibirlrossit: hi! :)20:00
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rlrossithi gibi!20:00
gibiand welcome everyone :)20:00
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gibiok, lets start20:02
gibi#topic open reviews20:02
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gibirlrossit: thanks for the reviews20:02
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gibiand thanks for the oslo patch20:02
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gibiI saw it got merged20:02
rlrossitI think it's sitting in gate right now actually20:02
rlrossitso it'll get through eventually20:03
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gibirlrossit: right20:03
rlrossitI would say try getting cores on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247024 with the way you have it though20:04
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gibiI think I will move the first patch in the mitaka tranking etherpad to the 'reviewed by the subteam' category if you agree20:04
rlrossit+120:05
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gibithanks20:05
rlrossito.vo just did a release so I don't know when my change will go out in a release, so I'll fix up the ObjectVersionChecker stuff after that releases20:05
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gibino problem, eventually it will be released and the fixing nova does not seems problematic for me20:06
gibi#action gibi update mitaka tracking etherpad20:06
gibijust not to forget ^^20:07
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gibibtw thanks for raising the documentation question20:08
gibi#action gibi to start drafting a devref as the next patch in the chain20:08
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gibihm, the bot seems to be lazy20:11
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gibianyhow do we have anything else to discuss?20:12
rlrossitnot for open reviews. I'll get started on the next one in the chain now that I approve of the bottom one20:12
gibirlrossit: thanks!20:12
gibithen20:12
gibi#topic open discussion20:12
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gibiI guess you have something :)20:13
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rlrossitI can't think of anything I have for open discussion I don't think20:15
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gibiOK. I'm also out of thoughts20:17
gibithen, can we close it for today?20:17
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rlrossityup!20:18
gibithank you!20:18
gibi#endmeeting20:18
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Dec  8 20:18:52 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:18
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-12-08-20.00.html20:18
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-12-08-20.00.txt20:18
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-12-08-20.00.log.html20:18
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