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| sgordon | let's try that again | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 14:02:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:02 | |
| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:02 |
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| cloudon | hello again | 14:02 |
| sgordon | \o/ :D | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #topic actions from last meeting | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #info sgordon reached out to Mathieu about the "Adding BGP based IP VPNs attachment use case" | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info Mathieu is still interested in pursuing documentation of this but is also involved in the BGPVPN project to actually implement | 14:05 |
| cloudon | remind me - did it identify any gaps? | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-bgpvpn/ | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171680/ | 14:05 |
| sgordon | "The implementation can rely on Neutron service extension framework.68 | 14:06 |
| sgordon | Two stackforge projects attempt to fill the gap :69 | 14:06 |
| sgordon | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/networking-bgpvpn70 | 14:06 |
| sgordon | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/networking-edge-vpn" | 14:06 |
| sgordon | so as i understand it he is attempting to document the use case in parallel | 14:06 |
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| sgordon | adrian had asked in comments on the review for more clarity around this aspect | 14:06 |
| sgordon | as a number of linked specs etc were abandoned | 14:07 |
| sgordon | hence why i was prodding to see if it will be updated | 14:07 |
| cloudon | ok, makes sense | 14:08 |
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| sgordon | #info meeting time slot | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | #info all meetings of telcowg now at 1400 UTC Wednesdays, no alternate time for now | 14:09 |
| sgordon | #info can re-discuss if contributors from other TZs express interest again in the future | 14:09 |
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| sgordon | #info sgordon reached out to opnfv-tech-discuss about the Promise project and potential interaction with Product WG discussion around capacity management | 14:11 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/opnfv-tech-discuss/2015-October/005677.html | 14:11 |
| sgordon | #info minutes from first product wg meeting on this topic are available | 14:11 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/product-wg/2015-October/000758.html | 14:11 |
| sgordon | i mention this here again primarily because of the potential intersection with telco/nfv requirements | 14:12 |
| sgordon | for capacity planning/control etc. | 14:12 |
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| cloudon | Judging from minutes looks like you got some traction on engagement? | 14:12 |
| sgordon | yes a little | 14:13 |
| sgordon | i would still welcome a few more contributors but will happily relay back review links etc when we have them | 14:13 |
| sgordon | the process is fairly similar to what we use for use cases in this group (in part because it is at least somewhat modeled on the approach used here) | 14:14 |
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| sgordon | so there will be gerrit reviews etc | 14:14 |
| sgordon | we need to tease apart the initial drafts that were created at the product wg mid-cycle | 14:14 |
| sgordon | ok i think that is all the old AIs | 14:15 |
| sgordon | #topic volunteers | 14:15 |
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| sgordon | as above i talked to mathieu about pushing BGP along | 14:16 |
| sgordon | question is if we have any other use cases we can push along and move to RFEs/Backlogs | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | i did create a backlog spec for the vIMS affinity piece | 14:16 |
| sgordon | cloudon, do i remember correctly that you were going to try handle for the SBC case? | 14:17 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176301/8/usecases/sbc.rst | 14:17 |
| cloudon | thought we were waiting for some more reviews? | 14:17 |
| cloudon | think we discussed a few meetings back about moving to RFE etc but suggestion was it needed more eyes on it first | 14:18 |
| sgordon | yeah, it's not merged atm, though technically it does have two +2s | 14:18 |
| cloudon | though as that's been followed by resounding silence I'm happy to move forward | 14:18 |
| sgordon | perhaps i can forward it past some neutron/nova folks and see if it makes sense | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | to them | 14:18 |
| sgordon | and if so merge it | 14:18 |
| cloudon | that would be great | 14:18 |
| sgordon | i think at this point it should be ok but that is how we can ensure it is all good | 14:19 |
| sgordon | once that occurs i guess there are two aspects: | 14:19 |
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| sgordon | 1) confirming we're sure all the linked specs actually align with what is needed | 14:19 |
| sgordon | 2) a backlog item for disabling connection tracking | 14:19 |
| sgordon | make sense? | 14:19 |
| cloudon | think so, yes | 14:20 |
| cloudon | i can take the connection tracking item | 14:20 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to email nova/neutron developers about reviewing SBC use case | 14:21 |
| sgordon | #action cloudon to handle raising a backlog spec or RFE bug for disabling connection tracking | 14:21 |
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| sgordon | assuming that this applies more to neutron, so probably RFE bug | 14:21 |
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| cloudon | ok | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | alright | 14:24 |
| sgordon | i think if we focus on moving vIMS and SBC use cases along that is the main thing i wanted to cover | 14:24 |
| sgordon | any other things to raise? | 14:24 |
| cloudon | is Tokyo meet finalised? | 14:25 |
| sgordon | in the next meeting i would like to try and address what we want to do with a session in tokyo (i will send a reminder to the list to try ensure attendance to discuss this) | 14:25 |
| sgordon | yes | 14:25 |
| sgordon | 2pm tuesday | 14:25 |
| sgordon | it is in the sched.org calendar | 14:25 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:25 |
| cloudon | great | 14:25 |
| sgordon | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/b060647ccd40868b30ef2ab5cab76fda#.VfAyOLOf5ak | 14:25 |
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| sgordon | just 40 mins this time | 14:25 |
| sgordon | so probably entirely working session | 14:25 |
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| sgordon | ok | 14:28 |
| sgordon | thanks for your time! | 14:28 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:28 |
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| cloudon | thanks | 14:28 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 14:28:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.02.html | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.02.txt | 14:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.02.log.html | 14:28 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 17:00:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| mugsie | hey - whos here? | 17:01 |
| federico3 | hi there | 17:01 |
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| ekarlso | yoyo :p | 17:01 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic action items from last week | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action items from last week (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:02 | |
| mugsie | Kiall / mugsie to do actions from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-09-09-16.59.log.html | 17:02 |
| mugsie | done afaik | 17:02 |
| Kiall | KInda here - Stuck on something else - but Done | 17:02 |
| Kiall | (woo) | 17:02 |
| mugsie | kiall to backport 9c37d55 / 4a68605 / 0c034d1 (if possible) / ad180b4 | 17:02 |
| mugsie | done as well, i think | 17:02 |
| mugsie | cores to review backports | 17:02 |
| Kiall | 0c034d1 is todo | 17:02 |
| Kiall | it wasn't a clean BP | 17:02 |
| mugsie | #action kiall backport 0c034d1 | 17:03 |
| mugsie | reviews are outstanding - but timsim was not in the right group :) | 17:03 |
| timsim | :( | 17:03 |
| mugsie | federico3 one to backport 6e45b7c 9c37d55 abfc3c0 to Kilo | 17:03 |
| federico3 | mugsie: the CRs are out | 17:03 |
| mugsie | great | 17:03 |
| mugsie | mugsie to suck it | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | :) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | Everyone read/understand http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | did everyone read ^ ? | 17:04 |
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| elarson | o/ | 17:04 |
| mugsie | i think that might be a few weeks for it to be completed :) | 17:04 |
| mugsie | mugsie to add assert:follows-standard-deprication to a future agenda | 17:04 |
| mugsie | that will be post summit I think at this point5 | 17:04 |
| timsim | Yeah I didn't read that :D | 17:05 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | (i missed the order :) ) | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | https://media.giphy.com/media/LbtSUVrZvnHDa/giphy.gif | 17:06 |
| Kiall | (fail) | 17:06 |
| mugsie | rc2 is out | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/liberty/liberty-rc2 | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | we have a possiblitly of an RC3? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | Kiall: was that agreed yet? | 17:06 |
| elarson | Kiall: well done! #allaboardthegiftrain | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | It's possible, but only if it's a absolutly critical bug | 17:07 |
| mugsie | OK | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | any other announcements> | 17:07 |
| mugsie | ?* | 17:07 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | timsim: over to you :) | 17:07 |
| timsim | There are the ones still assigned to mugsie | 17:08 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie finish investigations on his bugs | 17:08 |
| timsim | Apart from that, doesn't look like anything new | 17:08 |
| mugsie | \o/ | 17:09 |
| mugsie | can everyone give some testing to the RC2 builds, to make sure nothing is really broken? | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | I have been filing bugs with distros for some stuff, but we need a good test for L | 17:10 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:10 | |
| Kiall | Sorry - still on other call, don't have the list handy! Can you gather it real quick mugsie? SSOrry | 17:10 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:10 |
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| mugsie | 1b44c45 Merge "retry creates/deletes in the pool manager" | 17:11 |
| mugsie | 94dfad3 retry creates/deletes in the pool manager | 17:11 |
| mugsie | fa19a42 Merge "Functional tests: optionally skip admin actions in setups" | 17:11 |
| mugsie | d0d2816 Functional tests: optionally skip admin actions in setups | 17:11 |
| mugsie | c59a2a0 Fix handling of Pool NS changes | 17:11 |
| mugsie | can everyone have a look over ^ ? | 17:11 |
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| timsim | 94dfad3 retry creates/deletes in the pool manager and c59a2a0 Fix handling of Pool NS changes probably need it. | 17:12 |
| federico3 | yep | 17:12 |
| mugsie | to L ? | 17:12 |
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| federico3 | and 94dfad3 retry creates/deletes ? | 17:12 |
| mugsie | yeah, I would tend to agree - Kiall will need to talk to the release management team | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Isn't c59a2a0 already in rc2? | 17:13 |
| mugsie | #action Kiall sync with rel-man for backports of 94dfad3 and c59a2a0 | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Or are we talkin Kilo | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | it is | 17:13 |
| mugsie | so just 94dfad3 | 17:14 |
| * timsim should wrap up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230770/2 | 17:14 | |
| mugsie | not sure if that is a new RC level of bug though. | 17:14 |
| timsim | If there is one, might as well pop it in. | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah ++ | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:14 |
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| mlavalle | hi there | 17:15 |
| mugsie | hey :) | 17:15 |
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| mlavalle | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ is functionally complete now | 17:15 |
| mlavalle | I incorporated the changes to create PTR in /24 zone | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | I don't delete the PTR zones any more | 17:16 |
| mugsie | OK, cool. | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | and creation of PTR's are optional, based on a configuration parameter | 17:16 |
| mugsie | so, we should be testing this patch now? | 17:17 |
| mlavalle | yes, you can test it | 17:17 |
| mlavalle | I have tested it extesively in my sand box and as far as I can tell is bug free | 17:17 |
| mugsie | great :) | 17:17 |
| mugsie | #action all to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | I am prioritizing the presentation in Tokyo | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | but will aslso be fixing the failures with the neutron unit tests | 17:18 |
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| mugsie | OK, thanks mlavalle | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | and I am also starting to modify nova, so when an instance is created, the instance name is sent in the dns_name attribute of the port | 17:19 |
| mugsie | any questions? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | ah - that was goign to one of mine :) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | great - do we need to resurect the nova spec? | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | that way when you assign a neutron floating ip to it, we will be able to publish the instance's name to designate | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | mugsie: i'll take care of resurrecting the spec | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | i'll just start pushing code along with it | 17:20 |
| mugsie | thanks :) | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | if i need help, i'll yell | 17:20 |
| mugsie | please do | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | that's it for today | 17:20 |
| mugsie | thanks :) - final call for questions? | 17:21 |
| mugsie | #topic M Cycle Summit | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo | 17:21 |
| mugsie | I filled in the rooms on the etherpad | 17:22 |
| mugsie | we have 5 slots | 17:22 |
| mugsie | with one being a fishbowl | 17:22 |
| mugsie | is there any topic people think is a must have> | 17:22 |
| mugsie | ?* | 17:22 |
| timsim | Not _must have_ | 17:23 |
| mugsie | OK. any that we *should* have? | 17:24 |
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| timsim | Probably any from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate_2015_summer_midcycle_meetup_mcycle | 17:25 |
| timsim | that we don't absolutely know what we're going to do | 17:25 |
| timsim | We didn't decide on ixfr | 17:25 |
| mugsie | no. | 17:25 |
| mugsie | might be a good 40 min bikeshed | 17:25 |
| mugsie | :P | 17:25 |
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| timsim | Always | 17:26 |
| timsim | I wanted to talk about embedded services a bit. | 17:26 |
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| mugsie | as in central in api ? | 17:26 |
| timsim | aka https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/embeddable-central | 17:26 |
| timsim | eyah | 17:26 |
| timsim | yeah | 17:26 |
| timsim | And possibly more? | 17:26 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:26 |
| mugsie | added | 17:27 |
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| timsim | Seems like we revist dnssec at every cycle | 17:27 |
| timsim | s/cycle/summit | 17:27 |
| mugsie | yeah. | 17:27 |
| timsim | It'd be good if we came out of the summit with like, 5 things that we REALLY wanted in the cycle. | 17:27 |
| timsim | Finishing the pools stuff, although I doubt we really need to talk about that. | 17:28 |
| mugsie | I am actually not going to add it for this summit. I think we need some time to think on that, and we will need barbican to do code for us | 17:28 |
| timsim | Fair enough. | 17:28 |
| timsim | Batch API Actions | 17:28 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:28 |
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| timsim | Sane DB Connection Management would be awesome. | 17:28 |
| mugsie | so we have one 40 mins slot left | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | i think DB Connection management could be a good midcycle - I am not sur we would have anything usful in 40 | 17:29 |
| mugsie | mins* | 17:29 |
| timsim | Maybe get in a room with the nova/neturon folks involved in getting integrated and iron out the rest of the plan? | 17:29 |
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| timsim | Getting stuff in Nova has to be done early, etc. | 17:30 |
| elarson | mugsie: I have a working ALIAS branch, but it has brought up some questions regarding how work gets done. should we consider talking about a slightly more generic worker pattern? | 17:30 |
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| mugsie | we actually have that spec'd - just need mlavalle to get the code in :) | 17:30 |
| mugsie | elarson: so, workers / alias? | 17:30 |
| mugsie | we do have a 1/2 day on the friday as well | 17:31 |
| elarson | if that seems like a good idea to others | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | so we can do some deep dives into anything that shakes loose in the 40 mins session | 17:31 |
| elarson | sounds good | 17:31 |
| mugsie | elarson: yeah, the sounds good for the last slot | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | everyone agree with what is there now? | 17:32 |
| mugsie | elarson: timsim when do you fly home? | 17:32 |
| timsim | Saturday evening. | 17:32 |
| mugsie | cool. | 17:33 |
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| mugsie | #vote We should have the design summit as proposed: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo | 17:33 |
| mugsie | meh | 17:34 |
| mugsie | so, all agreeed to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-design-summit-tokyo ? | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | silence is agreement :) | 17:34 |
| timsim | Sounds good to me :) | 17:34 |
| Kiall | + | 17:34 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:34 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:34 |
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| mugsie | any off agenda items? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | OK, so do we want 25 mins back? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | OK, see ya'll in #openstack-dns :) | 17:36 |
| Kiall | lol - done with my other thing just in time I see | 17:36 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:36 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 17:36:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-10-07-17.00.html | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-10-07-17.00.txt | 17:36 |
| federico3 | heh | 17:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2015/designate.2015-10-07-17.00.log.html | 17:36 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 18:00:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| ashleighfarnham | o/ | 18:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| peterstac | o/ | 18:00 |
| cp16net | hello everyone | 18:00 |
| schang | o/ | 18:00 |
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| mat-lowery | o/ | 18:01 |
| ramashri | o/ | 18:01 |
| dougshelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:01 |
| cp16net | give a min for others | 18:01 |
| jianxuz | o/ | 18:02 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:02 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:02 |
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| cp16net | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trove pulse update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:03 | |
| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update | 18:03 |
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| edmondk | o/ | 18:03 |
| cp16net | peterstac: did you build that graph for these metrics in google docs? | 18:03 |
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| peterstac | no, I used excel | 18:04 |
| cp16net | ok | 18:04 |
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| nshah | o/ | 18:04 |
| amrith | ah .. a mac running ubuntu in a VM, running excel on Vine | 18:04 |
| amrith | technology! | 18:04 |
| peterstac | I could redo it pretty easily in google docs though | 18:04 |
| cp16net | i was thinking about making something i could update to link here for this | 18:04 |
| cp16net | i think it would be helpful | 18:05 |
| cp16net | peterstac: lets work together to get something setup | 18:05 |
| peterstac | cp16net, sounds good | 18:05 |
| cp16net | not sure if everyone will be able to view it but we'll figure something out | 18:05 |
| cp16net | because looking at the metrics makes me miss that graph :-P | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | looks like a little more drop off this week | 18:06 |
| cp16net | everyone must be busy with new feature work :-P | 18:06 |
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| amrith | yup, that's it! | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | and getting ready for the summit | 18:06 |
| atomic77 | o/ | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | any other comments or questions on this? | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | mat-lowery: you there? | 18:08 |
| mat-lowery | cp16net: present | 18:08 |
| cp16net | #topic Trove community and containers [mlowery] | 18:08 |
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| mat-lowery | This has the potential for a long discussion so please cut me off when necessary. | 18:08 |
| mat-lowery | As Docker and Kubernetes gain in popularity, I'm seeing problems they can solve in Trove. I wanted to know if either of these technologies (or similar ones) are candidates for adoption in Trove. I have only a superficial familiarity with both--this is just a very high level direction of Trove question. | 18:08 |
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| mat-lowery | As a concrete example of container adoption, consider the guest agent. When we upgrade our trove-guestagents, we have to care about the starting point of the upgrade (e.g. what libs are installed) and frankly, that drifts over time. (Some guests missed the last upgrade or we simply forgot to test some really old image.) In contrast, containers have everything they need to run. | 18:09 |
| cp16net | i know theres a containers project that is working on bringing containers to openstack | 18:10 |
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| amrith | see magnum | 18:10 |
| amrith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum | 18:11 |
| cp16net | yeah thats the name | 18:11 |
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| amrith | I've done some work on this. I have trove running against nova-docker which is great, not much change but not a very stable setup. | 18:11 |
| amrith | Moving forward, I think this container conversation is a bigger conversation that we should look into for a couple of reasons, the ones that Matt suggests for starters, but there are others. | 18:11 |
| vkmc | would it be possible to discuss this in a design session in Mitaka? seems really interesting | 18:12 |
| amrith | great idea vkmc | 18:12 |
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| cp16net | yeah i think this brings up some interesting things | 18:12 |
| vkmc | I'm personally interested about the upgrades management | 18:12 |
| cp16net | mat-lowery: will you be in tokyo? | 18:13 |
| vkmc | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-summit | 18:13 |
| mat-lowery | cp16net: I will not be in Tokyo. | 18:13 |
| * amrith volunteers to drive | 18:13 | |
| cp16net | ok we should definately talk about this there and get the conversation started | 18:13 |
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| mat-lowery | I'll add some bullets to the etherpad you linked to. Is there any remote participation? Not sure what crazy hour it will be in the US. | 18:14 |
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| cp16net | i'm not sure | 18:15 |
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| vkmc | its like 12 hours difference from where I'm based | 18:15 |
| amrith | in the past it has been hard | 18:15 |
| peterstac | mat-lowery, yeah, linking in live wouldn't be fun | 18:15 |
| dougshelley66 | historically remote participation has been by etherapd | 18:15 |
| vkmc | so US is probably similar... depending on which coast you are | 18:15 |
| amrith | given the numberof people and the bandwidth into the facility | 18:15 |
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| cp16net | yeah conf bandwidth has been bad in the past | 18:15 |
| vkmc | so if we have it very early, it could be possible | 18:15 |
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| amrith | if it is very very early, most people will have 'sake' breath ;) they'll be discussing a different kind of container. | 18:16 |
| cp16net | i'll see if there are any plans for streaming sessions | 18:16 |
| vkmc | mat-lowery, are you a contributor for Magnum? | 18:16 |
| vkmc | amrith++ lol | 18:16 |
| mat-lowery | I'm happy just to get the conversation started. So why don't I just add to etherpad for now. What's the date on the summit? | 18:16 |
| cp16net | #action cp16net check on remote participation at summit | 18:16 |
| amrith | week of 26th nov | 18:16 |
| peterstac | October 26-29 | 18:16 |
| cp16net | last week of oct | 18:17 |
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| mat-lowery | vkmc: No. But Magnum is an even more interesting discussion because of Kubernetes. If Trove used Magnum, control would be given over to Kubernetes to some degree. | 18:17 |
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| * amrith wonders what summit cp16net is going to | 18:17 | |
| atomic77 | how far along in terms of adoption are nova-docker and magnum? | 18:17 |
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| vkmc | mat-lowery, interesting | 18:17 |
| peterstac | sorry, October 27-30 | 18:18 |
| amrith | atomic77, magnum is recent, nova-docker has been around a bit. | 18:18 |
| amrith | yes, I guess I'm off by a month | 18:18 |
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| amrith | I wonder what summit I'd have ended up at | 18:18 |
| amrith | #action amrith must check m tickets and make sure I have the right dates. | 18:18 |
| cp16net | yikes | 18:19 |
| vkmc | seems we already have the slots https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit | 18:19 |
| dougshelley66 | can you at least send me your credit card if you got the dates wrong | 18:19 |
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| vkmc | the earliest we have is Oct 29 at 11am | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | ok i think this is something that more conversation and research needs to go into | 18:20 |
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| cp16net | is there anything else related to this? | 18:20 |
| mat-lowery | cp16net: ok for now I'll add stuff to the etherpad. we can sync back up after summit | 18:21 |
| mat-lowery | I'm all done. | 18:21 |
| amrith | mat-lowery, we can chat offline if you'd like and I'll take notes to summit | 18:21 |
| cp16net | that sounds great! thanks mat-lowery | 18:21 |
| mat-lowery | amrith: sounds good | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | chat in the chan because i'd like to know as well | 18:22 |
| cp16net | ok moving ok... | 18:22 |
| vkmc | me too | 18:22 |
| vkmc | cp16net++ | 18:22 |
| cp16net | #topic Refactor of Manager class [peterstac] | 18:23 |
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| cp16net | ok peterstac | 18:23 |
| peterstac | I think I put most of the info in the agenda item | 18:23 |
| peterstac | but to recap: | 18:23 |
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| peterstac | If we want to create a base manager class to make datastore management easier, now is the time to do it | 18:24 |
| peterstac | I've done a simple refactor locally and added code to fix the state change issue | 18:24 |
| peterstac | (to prove the concept works) | 18:25 |
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| peterstac | So I pushed up a spec outlining the details | 18:25 |
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| peterstac | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231572 | 18:25 |
| peterstac | If we're going to do this, we | 18:25 |
| cp16net | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/72/231572/1/check/gate-trove-specs-docs/c7d09a0//doc/build/html/specs/mitaka/datastore-manager-refactor.html | 18:25 |
| peterstac | we'd need some feedback soon | 18:26 |
| amrith | I've read the spec, I like it | 18:26 |
| cp16net | i need to look it over | 18:26 |
| amrith | we've talked about this before | 18:26 |
| amrith | in the context most recently of some stuff that was done late in liberty | 18:26 |
| cp16net | i agree that things like this need to be done early | 18:26 |
| amrith | don't recall the exact thing; it was during or just after mid-cycle | 18:26 |
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| amrith | and we said we'd do it early (like 1st thing) in m release. | 18:27 |
| cp16net | yup | 18:27 |
| amrith | I would like to put foot-on-gas-pedal and move this one up | 18:27 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net maybe we can ask for some review priority on it? | 18:27 |
| peterstac | It wasn't as big a change as I originally thought it would be - a lot of it was just deleting code once it'd been added to the base class ;) | 18:27 |
| amrith | Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V based coding is getting very hard to maintain. | 18:27 |
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| cp16net | yeah lets get eyes on it so we can work out issues early in the cycle | 18:28 |
| amrith | cp16net, can we set a target of getting reviews on this during this week and target to have code reviews in shortly thereafter? | 18:28 |
| peterstac | I'm hoping to push up the actual changeset for the code in the next day or two (just finalizing it) but I don't want to spend too much time just in case there's a problem with the spec | 18:29 |
| amrith | peterstac, perfect | 18:29 |
| peterstac | :D | 18:29 |
| cp16net | sounds good we can see where we are at the next meeting on this | 18:29 |
| cp16net | to keep it on peoples minds | 18:29 |
| peterstac | ok, I'll take it on myself to keep bugging people about it ;) | 18:30 |
| amrith | ++ | 18:30 |
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| cp16net | i'll also look over the blueprints to see which ones should be looked at | 18:30 |
| vkmc | ++ | 18:30 |
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| cp16net | #action cp16net priotitize blueprints for mitaka | 18:31 |
| peterstac | sounds good; that's all I had | 18:31 |
| cp16net | we can talk about them next meeting | 18:31 |
| cp16net | sound good? | 18:32 |
| cp16net | or at least at the summit for sure | 18:32 |
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| amrith | (if not sooner than next meeting) | 18:32 |
| amrith | I'd love to see this merged quickly | 18:32 |
| amrith | so that we don't have a lot of people who have to deal with merges | 18:32 |
| amrith | later | 18:32 |
| cp16net | i'd agree | 18:32 |
| cp16net | ok moving on... | 18:32 |
| cp16net | #topic Is it time to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220288/1 [amrith] | 18:33 |
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| amrith | this should be quick | 18:33 |
| cp16net | lets do this now... | 18:33 |
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| amrith | ok | 18:33 |
| amrith | done | 18:33 |
| amrith | moving along | 18:33 |
| cp16net | +2 | 18:33 |
| amrith | I'll let you approve the review. | 18:34 |
| amrith | this doesn't seem like the kind of thing I'd 'fast track' | 18:34 |
| amrith | given that we aren't in crunch-time. | 18:34 |
| amrith | hey, that was quick! | 18:34 |
| amrith | thanks folks | 18:34 |
| cp16net | awesome | 18:34 |
| cp16net | ok moving along | 18:34 |
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| amrith | who said we had a velocity of reviews problem in trove ... bah, humbug. | 18:35 |
| cp16net | #topic Open Discussion | 18:35 |
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| cp16net | only other thing i wanted to let everyone know about is the mitaka release schedule | 18:36 |
| cp16net | 18:26 < peterstac> we'd need some feedback soon | 18:36 |
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| cp16net | whoops bad paste | 18:36 |
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| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mitaka_Release_Schedule | 18:36 |
| amrith | interesting schedule | 18:37 |
| cp16net | then the next summit everyone is coming to my neck of the woods :) | 18:37 |
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| vkmc | are we going to focus on something in particular this cycle? it would be nice to discuss that if there is something clear | 18:38 |
| amrith | every 13th summit is in Austin, or so I hear | 18:38 |
| amrith | cp16net, do you know if there's any movement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203880/? | 18:39 |
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| amrith | I would like to get something related to that into the m release (from trove). | 18:39 |
| cp16net | i wasnt aware of that | 18:40 |
| cp16net | thanks for bringing it up | 18:40 |
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| vkmc | that looks interesting | 18:41 |
| cp16net | i starred it to keep it on my list of pataches to watch | 18:41 |
| amrith | in other 'open discussion' stuff, oslo is looking to us for things we'd like oslo to do. | 18:41 |
| amrith | I suggested that oslo.messaging should provide the option for a client to create an encrypted channel. | 18:42 |
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| amrith | rather than the current 'solution' that you configure rabbit SSL/TLS under the covers. | 18:42 |
| vkmc | a topic I wanted to bring for the open discussion is, once again, the problem we have with the guestagent not being secure enough | 18:42 |
| vkmc | I've got some questions related to that in the last couple of weeks | 18:42 |
| vkmc | and I think it makes sense to discuss this again | 18:42 |
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| amrith | vkmc, I'd love to have a discussion of that. I think there is way too much misinformation about that subject floating around. | 18:42 |
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| amrith | maybe a good topic for summit. | 18:43 |
| vkmc | I guess that yes | 18:43 |
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| vkmc | indeed | 18:43 |
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| cp16net | yeah that is something we should probably document | 18:43 |
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| vkmc | the tenant isolation patch SlickNik made got merged on RC1 for Liberty | 18:43 |
| vkmc | still, seems like that approach is not considered to be the enough | 18:44 |
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| cp16net | i think SlickNik had documented some of the new single_tenant_remote.py but i'm not sure where that is | 18:44 |
| amrith | vkmc, by whom? | 18:44 |
| amrith | or more importantly, why? | 18:44 |
| vkmc | amrith, by customers trying to deploy that | 18:45 |
| cp16net | i recall someone in the channel saying that its bad that the guest instance is connected to the infra rabbit queue | 18:45 |
| amrith | see previous comment about misinformation. | 18:45 |
| vkmc | I'm personally not very convinced with it... but maybe is because I don't understand it properly | 18:45 |
| amrith | so, lets do this. | 18:45 |
| amrith | (a) let's discuss it at summit | 18:45 |
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| amrith | (b) let's document | 18:45 |
| amrith | (c) let's make the changes that we think are required. | 18:45 |
| vkmc | sounds very good to me | 18:46 |
| dougshelley66 | i would think it would make sense to have vkmc document the challenges she has heard from the field before summit | 18:46 |
| cp16net | yeah i think that sounds like a plan | 18:46 |
| vkmc | dougshelley66, will do that :) | 18:46 |
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| dougshelley66 | vkmc thanks | 18:46 |
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| vkmc | I cannot use the bot but still... | 18:46 |
| amrith | cp16net, please give vkmc an action ;) | 18:47 |
| amrith | you are the BOSS! | 18:47 |
| vkmc | #action vkmc create an etherpad with the concerns raised with the tenant isolation solution for the trove deployment concern | 18:47 |
| vkmc | or something like that | 18:47 |
| vkmc | heh | 18:47 |
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| cp16net | sounds good | 18:47 |
| amrith | he who says #startmeeting assigns the #actionitems, old jungle saying. | 18:47 |
| cp16net | btw anyone can make an action | 18:47 |
| vkmc | really? sweet | 18:48 |
| amrith | but I can't use #link | 18:48 |
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| cp16net | you can | 18:48 |
| amrith | #link www.google.com | 18:48 |
| cp16net | just cant change topics and start/end meeting | 18:48 |
| cp16net | unless you are added as a chair | 18:48 |
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| amrith | oh, ok. | 18:48 |
| cp16net | anything else? | 18:48 |
| cp16net | #action add items we would like from oslo.messaging | 18:49 |
| dougshelley66 | cp16net I don't know if it was just oslo.messaging | 18:50 |
| cp16net | vkmc: re: focus for cycle i'd say i'm working on that with the blueprints and will have more ideas laid out for the next meeting | 18:50 |
| vkmc | cp16net++ | 18:50 |
| cp16net | ok thanks everyone | 18:51 |
| cp16net | #endmeeting | 18:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 18:51:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-07-18.00.html | 18:51 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-07-18.00.txt | 18:51 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2015/trove.2015-10-07-18.00.log.html | 18:51 |
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| vkmc | thaaaaaanks | 18:51 |
| cp16net | amrith: see the actions and links :-P | 18:51 |
| amrith | cp16net, yes | 18:52 |
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| amrith | does it mean I have to do something with them :) | 18:52 |
| cp16net | yes you need to check your dates | 18:52 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 20:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| johnsom_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
| blallau | Hi | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, folks! | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hello ! | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
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| blogan_ | hello | 20:01 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:01 |
| johnsom_ | Octavia is fully released. The announce e-mail went out Friday. | 20:01 |
| * dougwig cheers | 20:01 | |
| sbalukoff | Huzzah! | 20:01 |
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| * xgerman dances | 20:01 | |
| * TrevorV|Home is late, my b | 20:01 | |
| sballe | yeah! | 20:01 |
| johnsom_ | The three bugs we wanted to get into Liberty merged last night, so those made it in. | 20:01 |
| sballe | congrats | 20:01 |
| blallau | :) | 20:01 |
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| * blogan_ blinks | 20:01 | |
| * blogan_ then dances | 20:02 | |
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| sbalukoff | Our jobs are done. We can all go home now? | 20:02 |
| xgerman | NO | 20:02 |
| sballe | lol | 20:02 |
| xgerman | Mitaka design summit topics | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | D'oh! | 20:02 |
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| xgerman | The PTL will make a plan + Friday is open forum | 20:02 |
| sballe | xgerman: can we talk about the Octavia hands on too | 20:03 |
| johnsom | My IRC client keeps connecting me to a freenode server in Lithuania and I have no idea why... | 20:03 |
| xgerman | (and I hope it’s not like Vancouver where everybody went home Thursday) | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I blame the NSA | 20:03 |
| xgerman | sballe, sure | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | I'll still be there Friday. | 20:03 |
| dougwig | let's add an agenda item, rather than discussing during announcements? | 20:03 |
| TrevorV|Home | rm_work will be there for 3 weeks total I think | 20:03 |
| sballe | I am leaving Thu but the reservation was made for me before I joined Intel. | 20:03 |
| rm_work | correct | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I have started working on graphics for the presentations. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw-iunw0Bbd2NWJ4cjdPZ3VKZ1U/view?usp=sharing | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, nice! | 20:04 |
| johnsom | Comments welcome | 20:04 |
| dougwig | johnsom: the color scheme hurts, but it's very clear. i like it. | 20:04 |
| TrevorV|Home | -1 color scheme, +1 look otherwise johnsom | 20:05 |
| johnsom | It's supposed to be bright and cheery for the projector.... And I'm lazy and used a built in color scheme | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Does the controller worker have a driver? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | It does now | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Hah! | 20:05 |
| madhu_ak | +1 that looks awesome, but agree with color scheme | 20:05 |
| johnsom | (or soon) | 20:05 |
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| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I personally prefer pastels to "bright", but on a projector this might mellow out, so I'd have to test and see | 20:06 |
| johnsom | If anyone is inspired, I will take color palettes | 20:06 |
| sballe | lol | 20:06 |
| xgerman | we just hand out shades… it will be fine | 20:06 |
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| sbalukoff | I'm colorblind. So I don't care so long as the contrast doesn't suck. | 20:06 |
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| xgerman | ok, moving on | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Oh-- | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | I added the active-active blueprint for a design summit topic. | 20:07 |
| xgerman | RC2 has been cut with some LBaaS goodies | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | (Don't know if you saw that.) | 20:07 |
| xgerman | where is the blueprint? Link? | 20:08 |
| dougwig | in the prelim design summit schedule, lbaas/octavia has one fishbowl. subject to change, yada, yada. | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | I'll have a link for you in the next day or two. Still going over it with the IBM team. | 20:08 |
| xgerman | ok | 20:08 |
| * xgerman already thought I missed it | 20:08 | |
| xgerman | johnsom anyhting for RC2? | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Right now it's in our standard spec format-- should I just plan on doing a gerrit CR with it, or do you want to see a google doc version of it first? | 20:09 |
| johnsom | xgerman I think I already mentioned that. The three bugs we tagged made it in | 20:09 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Otherwise, I have no news | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | sbalukoff gerrit is probably better to comment | 20:09 |
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| johnsom | +1 gerrit | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: You've got it, eh! | 20:09 |
| xgerman | awesome!! | 20:09 |
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| xgerman | #topic Lbaas Mid-cycle planning | 20:10 |
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| xgerman | dougwig has the floor | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I think IBM would be interested in hosting that for once. So... yay? | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:10 |
| xgerman | IBM or bluebox? | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | We have merged. | 20:10 |
| dougwig | wanted to have us talk about potential dates and potential locations. | 20:10 |
| sballe | still in Seattle? ;-) | 20:10 |
| johnsom | borg | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Yes. | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: resistance is futile | 20:11 |
| dougwig | one idea that has come up is to have it in ireland, co-located with the designate midcycle, so we could also do gslb. | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: yes, let's talk about that. | 20:11 |
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| sbalukoff | Ooh, that'd be rad! When is that? | 20:11 |
| dougwig | talking about mid-january-ish. | 20:11 |
| TrevorV|Home | dougwig I highly doubt rax people can make that unless its on our own dime, but that's just a guess | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Yeah, that timeframe seems about right. | 20:12 |
| dougwig | nothing firm yet, especially while we feel out budgets and such. | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | Who would host it in Ireland? | 20:12 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: and neutron one will be when? | 20:12 |
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| xgerman | yeah, then there is the option to combine with FWaaS if we stay stateside | 20:12 |
| dougwig | blogan_: i don't know. winter? :) | 20:12 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: HP | 20:12 |
| dougwig | fwaas has less overlap than GSLB does with designate+lbaas, IMO. | 20:13 |
| xgerman | not denying that | 20:13 |
| dougwig | besides, fwaas should be in mexico or something. | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:13 |
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| sbalukoff | In January? No doubt. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | We need more developers in Hawaii | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | I'm thinking we should convince our superiors that the group decided to have the mid-cycle in Cancun. | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Hawaii is good, too. No complaints here. | 20:14 |
| dougwig | the main gist of this topic was not to decide anything, but rather to socialize some possibilities, and maybe let folks talk to their management about budgets. if there are dates or locations that will absolutely NOT work, please mention it here, or PM me, or xgerman/blogan_, or armax. | 20:14 |
| xgerman | cool! | 20:14 |
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| armax | hawaii sounds nice | 20:15 |
| xgerman | I am gone most of December - so scratch that month | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I'll quit screwing around as much: I'm certain I could make a January mid-cycle hosted by Blue Box / IBM happen in Seattle. | 20:15 |
| TrevorV|Home | Most of us from Rax are out most of December ha ha | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, December is bad for vacations. | 20:15 |
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| sbalukoff | January is much better. | 20:15 |
| blogan_ | id like to know how many would show up to an ireland midcycle first, to see if it will even have enough people | 20:15 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:15 |
| xgerman | blogan_ HP might be able to send two people | 20:15 |
| johnsom | I will probably be able to attend | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | I could probably convince my boss to send me to a January mid-cycle. But I don't know about other IBM teams. | 20:16 |
| xgerman | ^ #1 | 20:16 |
| dougwig | i'd go | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | I could definitely convince other IBM teams to come to Seattle. | 20:16 |
| dougwig | i think it might cost less to go to ireland, given the summer's midcycle. :) | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Of course, January would be better for our Israeli research team... I can probe them about that if it makes sense? | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Er... Ireland, I mean. | 20:17 |
| xgerman | yeah, Seattle is expensive | 20:17 |
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| sbalukoff | Huh. I had no idea. | 20:17 |
| TrevorV|Home | blogan_ I don't think WE can make Ireland. | 20:17 |
| dougwig | how many here are interested in the designate/gslb cross-over? if that's a small group, then merging may make less sense. | 20:17 |
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| pc-pothole | o/ | 20:18 |
| xgerman | we can also fly Graham places | 20:18 |
| johnsom | +1 gslb <grin> | 20:18 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV|Home: might be able to send 1 or 2, depends on other meetups, an probably whether its in q4 or q1 | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I have not heard any noise from my team about being very interested in it. | 20:18 |
| xgerman | so get mugs to come to the states | 20:18 |
| TrevorV|Home | blogan_ yeah but I wouldn't want to detract from next summit possibilities... its something to explore I suppose | 20:18 |
| johnsom | The next summit is in Austin, so I would guess not too big of an issue for the RAX folks | 20:19 |
| blogan_ | TrevorV|Home: will have to talk to those magical budget gnomes | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV and other RAXers: Would you be able to come to Seattle if we hosted it there? | 20:19 |
| blogan_ | lol johnsom so true | 20:19 |
| TrevorV|Home | Heh, and offer them bits of gold | 20:19 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I forgot about that... Oops | 20:19 |
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| xgerman | then it’s Bracelona | 20:19 |
| dougwig | wasn't it *just* in seattle? i mean... i like seattle and all. | 20:20 |
| blogan_ | is that a country of orthodontists? | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: It was, yes. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | keeps HP’s budget thin | 20:20 |
| sballe | and now Bluebox's ;-) | 20:20 |
| dougwig | you're on record as wanting to spend a billion on cloud. i'm just trying to help. | 20:20 |
| * johnsom lol | 20:21 | |
| xgerman | dougwig so is IBM | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | I can also probe to see whether there's an IBM office in Ireland (or elsewhere) willing to host. Unless HP has their heart set on hosting. :) | 20:21 |
| xgerman | I expect an epic host | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | Apparently IBM has a lot of different offices. | 20:21 |
| dougwig | yeah, it's IBM. | 20:21 |
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| xgerman | IBM can host in Mexico? | 20:21 |
| xgerman | or hawaii? | 20:22 |
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| dougwig | hotels rent conference rooms everywhere. | 20:22 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I'd say its more likely to get us to Seattle than out of country, due to prices of flights/lodging, but I can't promise that | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: I have an internal tool which lets me look up where IBM offices are. I'll be damned if there isn't one in Cancun. | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Whoever offers up the most Guinness and best Bushmills.... | 20:22 |
| blogan_ | sbalukoff: offices or orifices? | 20:22 |
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| blogan_ | rackspace has 0 in ireland, one in london though! | 20:22 |
| TrevorV|Home | I wouldn't mind Hawaii, its on my bucket list | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: The difference being?... ;) | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | I'm going to Hawaii less than a week after the Tokyo summit. :D | 20:23 |
| xgerman | it’s p[ractically on the way | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Yeah, direct flights even | 20:23 |
| dougwig | i think we've hit our socializing this idea goal, it's probably safe to move on to the next topic... | 20:23 |
| TrevorV|Home | sbalukoff You sound like you won't go back, but I think you would | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! Indeed. | 20:23 |
| sballe | lol | 20:23 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:23 | |
| dougwig | but will they let him back? | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV|Home: I'm pretty sure my arm could be twisted. :) | 20:24 |
| bana_k | heat spec almost done | 20:24 |
| johnsom | I guess I covered mine already | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | bana_k: Woot! | 20:24 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:24 |
| bana_k | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230197/ | 20:24 |
| TrevorV|Home | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230197/ | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | I pretty-much covered mine. Mostly. First pathetic draft of documentation additions is up for review. I'm working on updating t he hillariously quaintly out of date v0.5 design specs. | 20:25 |
| bana_k | if someone from our community takes a second look that will be great | 20:25 |
| xgerman | #action all review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230197/ | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Again, IBM Israeli research team is back from vacation and we're going over their active-active spec. Should have something this week to show y'all. Will generate a gerrit CR for this. | 20:26 |
| xgerman | woot! | 20:26 |
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| blogan_ | sbalukoff: is the active-active being implemented similarily to what was discussed long ago? | 20:27 |
| minwang2 | the following patches need to be reviewed for my progress: | 20:27 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215359/ | 20:27 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224929/ | 20:27 |
| minwang2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226599/ | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Eerily so. And I don't think they even saw our original specs from those days. These guys are sharp! | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | There are a few differences though-- and I understand their reasoning. We'll see if y'all agree with them or me on it. ;) | 20:28 |
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| sbalukoff | (Just for fun, I'll try to not make it known which design I prefer for once until I hear your feedback.) | 20:28 |
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| TrevorV|Home | *COUGH* yeah right *COUGH* | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Though that is hard for me. It comes from always being right. | 20:29 |
| blogan_ | sbalukoff: well since we'll probably be doing active active in a different way, my opinion may not matter | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | ;) | 20:29 |
| dougwig | i'd caution against letting it bake too much before involving folks, or it tends to get really sticky when the debates start. | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Agreed. | 20:29 |
| xgerman | I am looking forward to the spec — maybe we can find a middle ground between you and blogan_ | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | I think so. I mean-- we've come this far, haven't we? | 20:31 |
| xgerman | exactly | 20:31 |
| xgerman | #topic Octavia talk(s) | 20:31 |
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| blogan_ | xgerman: what i mean is, ours is giong to pretty custom to rackspace bc we like ot be different i guess | 20:31 |
| blogan_ | xgerman: is this the lab or also the neutron-lbaas talk? | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | blogan_: Yes, but there are new abstractions we can introduce in intelligent ways so that we're all still using essentially the same code base with similar enough behavior that nobody has to fork, eh. | 20:32 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:32 |
| johnsom | Docs are out on google docs. I haven't really done much yet. If you want edit access and don't have it pm me | 20:32 |
| xgerman | dougwig is the master of abstraction | 20:32 |
| blogan_ | sbalukoff: i hope so! | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Cool beans! Could you share the link for that again? | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | I think our various driver layers have been a good thing for us, so far, eh. | 20:33 |
| johnsom | blogan_ (and anyone else) up for a google hangout next week to work on a outline for the lbaas talk? | 20:33 |
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| xgerman | I am in | 20:33 |
| johnsom | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PYBLtNrkyg__FjyZ2ywynNv-22FW88hDz5j9q8W1ZOQ/edit?usp=sharing | 20:33 |
| sballe | I am in for the Octavia lab. Please count me in | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I'm up for it. I don't know if I'm even part of the talk, but I'd love to help with it, eh! | 20:33 |
| johnsom | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/12x6Xc6ktopg9mhxz7yqp_VsFTTqVRxJ_PtZlvzb0xPU/edit?usp=sharing | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | johnsom: yes, and if dougwig wants to make up for last year and take my spot that'd be great! | 20:33 |
| TrevorV|Home | rm_work should probably be in that hangout as well | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | sballe: Sweet! | 20:33 |
| blogan_ | well last summi | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, johnsom! | 20:34 |
| xgerman | yeah, let’s schedule something similar for the lab | 20:34 |
| dougwig | blogan_: if you have bronchitis, i will fill in for you. :) | 20:34 |
| sballe | lol | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:34 |
| blogan_ | dougwig: i feel like im getting a case of that as we speak | 20:34 |
| johnsom | blogan_ Wait a second, I did dougwig's section, so he can take my spot <grin> | 20:34 |
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| blogan_ | johnsom: shhh | 20:34 |
| xgerman | we will just have dougwig answer all the questions ;-) | 20:34 |
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| xgerman | + doing the Horizon demo | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 20:35 |
| blogan_ | oh yeah good, horizon demo | 20:35 |
| blogan_ | is that in liberty? | 20:35 |
| johnsom | Ok, I will ping folks this afternoon about potential timeslots for the talk and a seperate hangout for the lab | 20:35 |
| blogan_ | or is that independent-release | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | nope, but doug-fish said they are close | 20:35 |
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| xgerman | and it would work in K? | 20:36 |
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| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | Stupid question about Neutron-LBaaS integration tests: | 20:37 |
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| johnsom | How does Tuesday at 1pm work for folks for LBaaS talk hangout? | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | I see there's Octavia stuff being called by Jenkins, correct? So, this means that any Neutron-LBaaS tests need to pass Octavia as well, yes? | 20:38 |
| xgerman | not so good | 20:38 |
| xgerman | sbalukoff yes | 20:38 |
| xgerman | this comes with being reference implementation | 20:38 |
| johnsom | Ok, do I have any objections to 2pm Tuesday? | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Ok. So... I'm going to need to get the Octavia side working with shared pools before I the Neutron-LBaaS patch for the same can be merged. Good to know! | 20:39 |
| * xgerman object | 20:39 | |
| xgerman | johnsom make it 1:30 to be safe | 20:39 |
| dougwig | johnsom: what time zone? | 20:39 |
| xgerman | pacific? | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Ah, sorry, thought it, didn't type. Pacific time | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | 2:00pm would be better. I have a company-wide meeting until 1:30 next Tuesday. | 20:39 |
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| blogan__ | johnsom: pacific? | 20:40 |
| blogan__ | whoops | 20:41 |
| blogan__ | grrr | 20:41 |
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| johnsom | blogan_ pacific | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | But eh... if 1:30 PDT is what works, I can probably make that work. | 20:41 |
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| blogan_ | okay that works | 20:41 |
| johnsom | So, 1:30 pacific. Going once... | 20:41 |
| johnsom | Going twice... | 20:42 |
| johnsom | Sold! dougwig presents | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | Yay! | 20:42 |
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| johnsom | I will IRC a hangout link on Tuesday | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | Sounds good. | 20:43 |
| blogan_ | okay | 20:43 |
| xgerman | awesome | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | Do we want to figure out a time to discuss the lab next week as well? | 20:43 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:43 |
| xgerman | sable any preference? | 20:43 |
| xgerman | sballe | 20:43 |
| sballe | that would be great! Please not Tuesday. I am in an all day face 2 face | 20:43 |
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| sbalukoff | sballe: Wednesday or Thursday? | 20:44 |
| sballe | Wed or Thu at 2pmPST would work for me | 20:44 |
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| sbalukoff | Either of those work for me too. | 20:44 |
| johnsom | Wednesday right after the Octavia meeting? | 20:44 |
| xgerman | sold | 20:44 |
| sballe | yep works for me | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Sounds good! | 20:45 |
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| * johnsom thinks his cat herding skills have improved... | 20:45 | |
| sbalukoff | IRC a hangout link for that during the meeting? | 20:45 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Cool. | 20:46 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom might not boast that. | 20:46 |
| TrevorV|Home | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmgLtg1Izw | 20:46 |
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| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | Ok... I've got nothing else for now. | 20:46 |
| xgerman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B00grl3K01g <- Danish ad campaign | 20:47 |
| xgerman | anything else? | 20:47 |
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| xgerman | TrevorV|Home nice - EDS that’s actually now... | 20:47 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 20:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 20:48:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-07-20.00.html | 20:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-07-20.00.txt | 20:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2015/octavia.2015-10-07-20.00.log.html | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks y'all! | 20:48 |
| sballe | bye | 20:48 |
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