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| sc68cal | hi all | 15:01 |
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| dane_leblanc | o/ | 15:02 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 28 15:02:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:02 |
| HenryG | o/ | 15:02 |
| HenryG | I see devstack is on the verge of defaulting to dualstack. Great work everyone! | 15:03 |
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| sc68cal | yes! I'm very excited | 15:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | :) | 15:06 |
| sc68cal | There's also been a version of Cirros that is in preview, that has ipv6 tools | 15:07 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/166778 | 15:07 |
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| HenryG | Correct. Cirros 0.3.4 will have v6 parity for everything except DHCPv6. | 15:08 |
| HenryG | Cirros 0.4.0 will have DHCPv6 client. | 15:08 |
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| john-davidge | o/ Apologies for lateness, BT has decided they don't like providing me with stable internet today. | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | HenryG: how far away are we from 0.4? | 15:09 |
| HenryG | sc68cal: I don't have a specific timeline, but Jens seems to be quite far along with it. | 15:10 |
| sc68cal | cool, worst case we'll just check if fedora has one that we can use for dhcpv6 in the meantime | 15:10 |
| HenryG | I will keep in touch with Jens and smoser (cirros release person) and report back here. | 15:10 |
| HenryG | Yes, Jens regularly makes his hacked versions available. | 15:11 |
| HenryG | The Ubuntu cloud images can be used if you have enough VM resources. | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | Once we merge the devstack patch I plan on tackling some tempest bugs | 15:15 |
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| sc68cal | FYI there is a new review posted that proposes a change to the process for liberty - https://review.openstack.org/177342 | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | we'll need to keep an eye on it for PD | 15:19 |
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| john-davidge | ok, thanks. Will keep an eye on that | 15:19 |
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| sc68cal | that's really all I've got for this week. If anyone has anything to discuss please do, or we can wrap up and give everyone back 30 minutes | 15:22 |
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| john-davidge | Would just like to mention a couple of demo/guide videos I've put together to help those reviewing the PD patch | 15:22 |
| john-davidge | Workflow demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI830s881HQ | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: very cool! | 15:23 |
| john-davidge | In-depth dibbler config guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsFyS01Fn0 | 15:23 |
| john-davidge | sc68cal: Thanks! It's a complex feature to setup and test so i figured it would be helpful for peopel to see it in action | 15:24 |
| john-davidge | both have full subtitles if im speaking too fast/british | 15:24 |
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| sc68cal | haha. :) | 15:25 |
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| sc68cal | There was part of yesterday's meeting I sort of hijacked to talk about docs. I think there is movement to have features include changes to devref, to document them | 15:25 |
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| john-davidge | sc68cal: working on a pd section for the networking guide as we speak :) | 15:26 |
| sc68cal | so probably you can just add something to devref that links to those YTs | 15:26 |
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| sc68cal | john-davidge: ah excellent | 15:26 |
| john-davidge | That's it from me. Was about to link to the code review bu review.openstack.org seems to be down :/ | 15:27 |
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| sc68cal | any other business? | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | review.openstack.org seems to be back up. | 15:33 |
| john-davidge | Great, reviews appreciated :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158697/ | 15:34 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear an issue with its event stream. any change events between 14:43-15:30 utc should be rechecked or have their approval votes reapplied to trigger jobs | 15:37 | |
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| sc68cal | ok everyone, unless there is anything else, see everyone next week | 15:38 |
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| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 28 15:39:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-28-15.02.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-28-15.02.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-28-15.02.log.html | 15:40 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 28 16:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-04-28_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| sdake_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| apmelton | o/ | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 16:01 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:01 |
| juggler | o/ | 16:01 |
| dims | o/ | 16:01 |
| tcammann_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| thomasem | o/ | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello sdake_, apmelton, Tango, rpothier, juggler, dims, tcammann_, and thomasem | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | we will begin in a moment | 16:02 |
| jjlehr | o/ | 16:02 |
| diga_ | o/ | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | hello jjlehr, and diga_ | 16:03 |
| diga_ | hello adrian_otto | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's begin | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Reminder: Our IRC Meeting will be skipped on 2015-05-19 because we will be at the Vancouver Design Summit | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | 2) We did not release on schedule on 2015-04-25. I expect to complete the release work today. | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | after the release we will have two branches: master, and stable/kilo | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | once we do that, we fix bugs in master, and backport defect fixes to stable/kilo | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | not all bug tickets are defects | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | so please use the tag "defect" to identify a bug ticket as a defect | 16:06 |
| sdake | which, in the git log? | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | and be sure to indicate which branch(es) that defect impacts. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | no, the tag I am talking about is actually in LP (in the ticket system) | 16:06 |
| sdake | got it | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | but being clear in the commit log is also wise, so plan to do both | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | any questions on that? | 16:07 |
| sdake | in the git log add | 16:07 |
| sdake | tag: defect | 16:07 |
| sdake | ? | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | no, because the git log are the fixes to the bugs | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | Closes-Bug: NNNN is enough for that | 16:08 |
| sdake | ok | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | but you can mention in the narrative of the commit message that this is a fix for master, or a fix for stable/kilo | 16:08 |
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| adrian_otto | that is visible in the patch metadata as well, but because this is something new, this should help reviewers get used to it | 16:08 |
| sdake | that should be obvious in gerrit becasue of the repo it is applied against :) | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | and if for any reason something is not clear, or you think it would work better another way, let's discuss it | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I have a special update to share with you | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like to keep this to the team, but I think it's important to mention so that we are ready | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 3) Special Update | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | as you know, we will be showing a demo of Magnum at the OpenStack Design Summit in Vancouver in a few weeks | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | that demo will happen in a conference track session | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | the link to that is on our wiki page | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | the new info is that we will also be giving the demo in one of the keynotes | 16:11 |
| dims | nice! | 16:11 |
| apmelton | \o/ | 16:11 |
| thomasem | noice | 16:11 |
| juggler | +1 | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | so we will be laser focused on making that demo really smooth, and compelling | 16:11 |
| Tango | yea | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | this is obviously good news because we will gain new users and new contributors | 16:11 |
| sdake | by we, he means everyone ;) | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, I'm mentioning this to you because I'm seeking all of your help to get this go play really smooth | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | rehearsals happen on May 7th, so we need to be done basically in a week | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | and if anything is glitchy, we will have a little time to iron it out. | 16:12 |
| dims | adrian_otto: so "stable/kilo" should be really stable :) | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | yes, dims! | 16:13 |
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| dims | ++ | 16:13 |
| Tango | What's planned for the demo? | 16:13 |
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| sdake | wordpres | 16:13 |
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| diga_ | https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/44475e888cc90b5e7b14ac61a0b8de0e#.VT-xrIVxMxA | 16:13 |
| diga_ | talk link :) | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | Tango, I'm still open to suggestions, but Bay creation is the thrust of our value right now, so we'll want to do that | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/event/44475e888cc90b5e7b14ac61a0b8de0e#.VT-xrIVxMxA Magnum Session | 16:14 |
| dims | adrian_otto: the main thing that i can think of is the time taken for things to come up (which i am facing on the CI job) | 16:14 |
| sdake | we are not doing virt on virt dims | 16:14 |
| sdake | we are doing bare metal bay creation | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | yes, that's something that we will want to apply some creativity to | 16:14 |
| tcammann_ | yeah, don't do virt nesting.. | 16:14 |
| dims | cool | 16:14 |
| dims | just making sure :) | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | We might start with an existing bay, and show how we can scale it, interact with it, and explain how it works | 16:15 |
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| sdake | bay creation takes about 1 minute on my hardwqare | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | and with any live demo, we will want to show an actual app running, and some way to demonstrate that it's changing while we give Magnum instructions | 16:16 |
| sdake | so doing bay creation is probably feasible in a demo | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | I know I'll ahve a dedicated wired network connection | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | so I can create a really fast demo environment on public cloud (bare metal) | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | I can also carry in a server, and have something local on the laptop | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | so there are plenty of options for making sure e have fast hardware | 16:17 |
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| dims | awesome | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | so we can come back to this in Open Discussion. Let that simmer for now. | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | do any current work items require team discussion today? | 16:18 |
| sdake | lots of our blueprints are not going to make the cutoff | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | yes, I'll be retargeting those that are incomplete | 16:18 |
| jjlehr | I was wondering if the blueprint for creating swarm bays will make this cutoff. | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | if you have a BP that you know is complete, be sure to mark it as "Implemented" now, so we record that in our release notes. | 16:19 |
| jjlehr | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/multiple-bay-templates | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: can you give jjlehr an update on that? | 16:19 |
| apmelton | I believe at this point that bp is complete | 16:20 |
| apmelton | rather that entire flow of bps | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | there were a couple of nice-to-have reviews in process on Friday | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | I expect those have also merged? | 16:20 |
| apmelton | jjlehr: baymodel.coe is complete, right? | 16:20 |
| jjlehr | Yes it is. It was merged into master last night. | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | that's awsome | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | (stop a minute to recognize this milestone) | 16:21 |
| dims | yay :) | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | thanks to everyone who worked on this feature | 16:22 |
| apmelton | thanks a bunch to jjlehr and diga_ for helping out on this! | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | this is one of the key reasons that Magnum even makes sense for OpenStack operators | 16:22 |
| juggler | thx jj/diga | 16:22 |
| diga_ | apmelton: welcome! | 16:22 |
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| jjlehr | You're welcome! I enjoyed working on it as my first contribution. | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | because it can give them a framework and an API that the can plug in whatever the prevailing technology is as that evolves | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | that's really important because large scale operators are reluctant to invest in emerging technologies that are at high risk of changing (quickly becoming obsolete) | 16:23 |
| apmelton | trial by fire jjlehr :) | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | but with a feature like multi-bay-type they can bet on Magnum, and have confidence that they can fit in whatever COE users like best over time | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | I do want to make a special call out to jjlehr and apmelton | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | jjlehr: because you handled the learning curve with such grace | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: for just kicking butt | 16:24 |
| apmelton | thanks adrian_otto! | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | who else worked on this feature? | 16:25 |
| jjlehr | Thank you to everyone who was so patient with me :_ | 16:25 |
| apmelton | diga_ worked on the docker conductor | 16:25 |
| jjlehr | joffter helped me get started | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | jjlehr: do you feel like we are doing a good job welcoming new contributors? | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | is there anything we should plan to do better? | 16:25 |
| jjlehr | Definitely! This seems like a very friendly community. | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | if you think of anything, just let us know, and we;ll find a way to work it in | 16:26 |
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| jjlehr | Sounds good. | 16:26 |
| apmelton | diga_ also worked on bay_distro, which is extremely important for really supporting images other than atomic | 16:26 |
| apmelton | cluster_distro* | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | that's right!! | 16:27 |
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| diga_ | thanks :) | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | diga_ has worked on a really wide range of stuff | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for being so versitile | 16:27 |
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| adrian_otto | so our current topic is Blueprint/Task Review | 16:28 |
| diga_ | adrian_otto: I enjoy working on magnum | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | ;-) | 16:28 |
| juggler | I agree. diga's very helpful! | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | any other work items we should review together today? | 16:29 |
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| diga_ | juggler: thanks :) | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | ok, one thing I did not add to the agenda yet is an etherpad to name our Design Summit session topics | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | would you like to make one now? | 16:30 |
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| apmelton | adrian_otto: how many sessions do we have? | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | 6+4 I think… I will confirm… one moment | 16:31 |
| dims | 6 fishbowls? | 16:31 |
| sdake | 4 fishbowl | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | We have 4 Fishbowl (large audience) and 6 Workrooms | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | and 1 contributors meetup on Friday afternoon | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/ Summit Schedule | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | search for "Magnum" on that page and check all the Magnum ones | 16:35 |
| diga_ | I wish you all the best & have a fun at summit :) | 16:35 |
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| apmelton | adrian_otto: I guess they didn't tag each event with the project? | 16:36 |
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| juggler | regarding adrian's earlier question, an etherpad sounds like a great idea. | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: correct. not yet | 16:37 |
| apmelton | gotcha | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | we can get these placeholders updated with actual topics | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-magnum-topics OpenStack Design Summit Topic Etherpad | 16:38 |
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| juggler | Everything You Wanted to Know about Magnum, but Were Afraid to Ask :) | 16:38 |
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| adrian_otto | juggler: oh, my | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | that would be a big Fishbowl | 16:40 |
| juggler | prolly | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | let's just get all the ideas up first | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | and then we can slot them after | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | it might make sense to have networking in a fishbowl as well | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | ideally one that happens after a workroom… not sure if we have any in that order… looking at that now | 16:43 |
| thomasem | adrian_otto: that's fair | 16:44 |
| thomasem | I wasn't sure about where to put that | 16:44 |
| thomasem | Yay, etherpad formatting! | 16:45 |
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| thomasem | What's the 'c' or 'd' for? | 16:48 |
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| adrian_otto | C = Conference Settion | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | Session | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | D = Design Session | 16:52 |
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| thomasem | Ahhhh, I see | 16:52 |
| thomasem | thanks, adrian_otto | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | np | 16:53 |
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| apmelton | adrian_otto: so we have fishbowl early on wednesday, then design? | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: I pasted the schedule in the bottom of the etherpad for your reference | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | so the fishbowls will be before all the work sessions | 16:54 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: I'm just making sure I understand what's pasted | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | yes | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | the Room 306 ones are the Fishbowls | 16:55 |
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| diga_ | adrian_otto: Can we add volume topic for containers "add volume to the container from cinder" ? I never tried yet, hope someone tried that | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | and I think Room 121/122 is a giant combined room | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | diga_: well as long as you mount the volume in the nova instance and put a filesystem on it before you do a bind mount of the filesystem, that will work | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | but you can not "mount" a volume in an ordinary Docker container because it drops the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability | 16:57 |
| diga_ | okay | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | which is needed to do the mount of the filesystem on the volume | 16:57 |
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| diga_ | got it | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | you could actually expose a raw volume to a container, as long as you did not want to put a filesystem on it | 16:57 |
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| diga_ | okay | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | there are a few use cases for that, but they are much less common than a filesystem use case | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | that's actually a good topic | 16:58 |
| diga_ | yep | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | oh, wow, where did the time go! | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:58 |
| diga_ | I will study on that | 16:58 |
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| diga_ | yes | 16:58 |
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| juggler | for the benefit of new and existing contributors, may i recommend that a reference to https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/master/doc/source/dev/dev-manual-devstack.rst be in the quickstart or the contributing page or both. | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so I used up all the time on that, sorry | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | our next meeting will be 2015-05-05 at 2200 UTC | 16:59 |
| juggler | no prob | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | see you all then!! | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 28 17:00:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-28-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-28-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-28-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 28 17:00:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi Team o/ | 17:00 |
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| aderyugin | hi! | 17:00 |
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| ddovbii_ | Hi | 17:00 |
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| ativelkov | o/ | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev | I suggest we deside on a secret murano greeting | 17:01 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, like? :) | 17:01 |
| freerunner | yo! | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev | dunno | 17:01 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, was proposing usage of muranoers | 17:01 |
| katyafervent | 0/ | 17:02 |
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| slagun | o%// | 17:02 |
| FilipBlaha | hi | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev | do OS-users have a secret greeting? | 17:03 |
| sergmelikyan | (⌐■_■) | 17:03 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, dunno :) | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Agenda | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | As usual today's agenda is available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:04 |
| sergmelikyan | I would like to go through few bugs today that are considered critical, but we are so close to release... | 17:04 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items | 17:04 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 meeting about blueprint/abstract-env-template is scheduled for ... | 17:05 |
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| sergmelikyan | henar was not able to attend that meeting and we didn't agreed on a new time :( | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | In scope of this topic, let's discuss for a minute what is better way to have discussions around new features given that we are not able to dicuss them on summit? | 17:06 |
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| ativelkov | I'd prefer hangout | 17:07 |
| ativelkov | I mean, if we need some way other then spec review | 17:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, yeah I am talking about pre-spec discussions that usually held during summit | 17:08 |
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| ativelkov | yup, the hangout should work then | 17:09 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, I also like hangout | 17:09 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, katyafervent any thoughts? | 17:09 |
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| slagun | +1 | 17:11 |
| * sergmelikyan has issues with eyesight not ears, but he is wandering if he missed response from katyafervent | 17:11 | |
| katyafervent | I agreed with hangout | 17:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | Then our workflow is: announcement -> discussion (hangout) -> meeting minutes | 17:12 |
| slagun | but even better to have rich chat + hangout | 17:12 |
| sergmelikyan | rich chat? | 17:12 |
| ativelkov | I propose to have some etherpad to gather discussion proposals | 17:12 |
| slagun | something like slack. Something better than IRC | 17:13 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, agree | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | slack is internal only | 17:13 |
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| slagun | there are a lot of similar projects | 17:13 |
| ativelkov | you cannot use for intercompany communications | 17:13 |
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| ativelkov | ah, got it | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, can't understand why you consider slack is better option than IRC, but let's skip this | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | well, we used to have "virtual summits" in Glance | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, using? | 17:14 |
| ruhe | IRC should be the default choice. it's the only open channel of real-time communication | 17:14 |
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| sergmelikyan | ruhe, for chat - sure, +1 | 17:14 |
| ruhe | yeah, for chatting | 17:14 |
| ativelkov | it was called vidyo | 17:15 |
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| katyafervent | I also prefer IRC | 17:15 |
| ativelkov | www.vidyo.com | 17:15 |
| slagun | the problem with IRC is its single-line message. You cannot paste code samples etc | 17:15 |
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| sergmelikyan | Last question before moving on... | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, how did you like it? | 17:16 |
| ativelkov | well, nothing special. ± the same as webex | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | huh... | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Release Status | 17:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | https://launchpad.net/murano/+milestone/kilo-rc2 | 17:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | We still have several open issues, three of them I would like to discuss specifically | 17:17 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think aderyugin fixed issue with our devstack, and that is a relief | 17:17 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev is working on his issue, but I would consider it also fixed | 17:18 |
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| ruhe | link to patch to devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178290/ | 17:18 |
| katyafervent | Finally! | 17:18 |
| sergmelikyan | Yeah... it's so sad that issue was so simple :( | 17:18 |
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| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/177796 & https://review.openstack.org/177869 for catalog issues fixed by kzaitsev | 17:19 |
| sergmelikyan | freerunner, can you help us verify this issues? | 17:19 |
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| freerunner | sergmelikyan: sure | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | We are really close to release, like 2 days left, and it's big risk to include fixes right now, but from other point of view this bug is a major flaw in core Murano functionality | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev | We're currently doing that =) | 17:20 |
| katyafervent | There are no more new bugs in rc2, right? | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, awesome! | 17:20 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, not exactly :( Today we found three more critical bugs that I would like to discuss today. | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | Main question - should we have them fixed in kilo or not | 17:21 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1449500 | 17:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449500 in murano "AgentListener doesn't stop after GC cleanup" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:21 |
| slagun | sergmelikyan: I already know why it happens. Will fix today | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | This bug essentially breaks application deployment and it is really critical... I personally think that we need to focus and fix this in Kilo | 17:23 |
| katyafervent | we can always back port them later, as we did for some bugs found in stable/juno | 17:23 |
| ruhe | what are the chances to introduce a regression with your fix? | 17:23 |
| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, not exactly - many people use released version not a stable branches | 17:23 |
| slagun | ruhe: very unlikely | 17:23 |
| katyafervent | so you will be use latest version of juno not 2014.2 | 17:24 |
| katyafervent | now it's 2014.2.2 and it has fixes for some critical bugs | 17:24 |
| sergmelikyan | opposite - people usually use and include in the distribution 2014.2, 2014.2.1 and so on and rarely pull code from stable/juno | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | katyafervent: we don't want to wait for 2015.1.1 for such a critical fix | 17:25 |
| sergmelikyan | if we would not fix this bug in kilo right now it means that fix would be available at least 1-2 month later | 17:25 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, +1 | 17:25 |
| ativelkov | so, I'd prefer to risk and include it in RC3 | 17:26 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, we still may release in RC2 :) | 17:26 |
| ativelkov | s/RC3/RC2 :) | 17:26 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, so any hints how you plan to fix this issue? | 17:26 |
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| ativelkov | But that's a lesson lerned: we definetly have to many critical issues at RC stage. Probably because we had too many freeze exceptions | 17:27 |
| sergmelikyan | or very late QA cycle & not so many tests :( | 17:28 |
| slagun | sergmelikyan: we are using environment.start()/stop() to execute pre/post deploy hooks. The fix is to have GC as an explicit step with pre/post-GC hooks similar to deployment | 17:28 |
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| ativelkov | sergmelikyan: that's the reason of that: we were still doing feature development when the schedule assumes QA | 17:28 |
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| slagun | currently GC happens implicitly upon model load | 17:28 |
| ativelkov | let's remember this and try to avoid such a pattern at L | 17:28 |
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| katyafervent | ruhe, is it a common practice to fix such kind of bugs in rc releases? do all the projects have a lot of bugs in rc releases? | 17:29 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, yeah... | 17:29 |
| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, it depends... horizon goes for RC3 AFAIK | 17:29 |
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| ruhe | in what scenarios will this issue be reproduced? would it affect *all* users? | 17:31 |
| slagun | it affects any application that have destruction logic | 17:31 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, ruhe Kubernetes? | 17:32 |
| slagun | I've encountered this issue when I started to implement Docker applications removal | 17:32 |
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| slagun | we don't have distruction in any other applications in murano-apps but users may have it in their own apps | 17:33 |
| ruhe | then, imho, fix should be merged now in kilo | 17:33 |
| sergmelikyan | #startvote Fix #1449500 in RC2? Yes, No | 17:34 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Fix #1449500 in RC2? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 17:34 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:34 |
| sergmelikyan | #vote Yes | 17:34 |
| slagun | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| katyafervent | #vote Yes | 17:34 |
| ruhe | #vote Yes | 17:34 |
| ativelkov | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | #endvote | 17:35 |
| openstack | Voted on "Fix #1449500 in RC2?" Results are | 17:35 |
| openstack | Yes (5): katyafervent, ruhe, ativelkov, slagun, sergmelikyan | 17:35 |
| freerunner | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | I think we had majority here :) | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | freerunner, sorry :) | 17:35 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: Oops =) | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | #2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1449497 | 17:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449497 in murano "[MuranoPL] pselect exits on first exception" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:36 |
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| slagun | this is even more important than the previous one | 17:36 |
| katyafervent | This bug is nasty, we should definitely fix it | 17:36 |
| katyafervent | We can't get real exception because of this bug | 17:37 |
| sergmelikyan | Yeah, this affects almost every deployment | 17:37 |
| ativelkov | Well, there is another option: replace pselect with select in core library. This will not introduce any regressions, we'll just decrease performance | 17:37 |
| slagun | we had this bug since day 1 of MuranoPL :) | 17:37 |
| ativelkov | I mean, in the Environment.deploy() | 17:37 |
| katyafervent | Moreover, this bug shows misleading exception | 17:37 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, you are proud of that? :) | 17:38 |
| slagun | sergmelikyan: :-)) | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, if you tell me that you know about this issue long time ago I will not buy a beer for you on Summit | 17:38 |
| ruhe | slagun: may i ask you to update bug description and include steps to repro, symptoms, etc. so that users of murano might understand it and figure out they're hitting exactly this issue? | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 17:39 |
| freerunner | ruhe: one second, please ;) | 17:39 |
| slagun | I told about it several times but until know it didn't caused any real harm | 17:39 |
| slagun | ruhe: there is a slightly better description here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mos/+bug/1449635 | 17:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449635 in Mirantis OpenStack "[MuranoPL] pselect exits on first exception" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:40 |
| slagun | symptom is when you [OS Errno 2]: No such file in dashboard. Sometimes this is the only error you see | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | I agree that we need to update description for #1449497... nasty :( | 17:41 |
| ruhe | it seems that there's general agreement that this one should be fixed now | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | #agree #1449635 need to be fixed in RC2 | 17:42 |
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| sergmelikyan | #3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1449510 | 17:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449510 in murano "[Docker] Sometimes Docker doesn't start" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:42 |
| sergmelikyan | I have doubts about that one... it's just one of the application that we developed, and does not affect core functionality | 17:43 |
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| ruhe | sergmelikyan: +1 and in long term we'll need to reconsider the approach to track applicaitons as part of release of murano. they're different entity | 17:44 |
| slagun | This is additional step in DockerStandaloneHost to start docker service. Just a workaround. I think this is some docker startup bug | 17:44 |
| sergmelikyan | But from the other point of view it affects K8s & Docker apps and they are most powerful apps that we have AND they enable whole different level of applications | 17:44 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: ruhe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1449497 done. | 17:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1449497 in murano "[MuranoPL] pselect exits on first exception" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:44 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, so you have workaround for that bug? | 17:44 |
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| ruhe | freerunner: one minor suggestion - include logs into the bug description. it'll help users to google for this error | 17:46 |
| slagun | sergmelikyan: yes, I have. It is very simple. I will commit it with application removal | 17:46 |
| slagun | (but not in the same coommit) | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, ok, then beer is on me and maybe a wine :) kzaitsev says that Vancouver should have great wine | 17:46 |
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| kzaitsev | icewines | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | #startvote Fix #1449510 in RC2? Yes, No | 17:47 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Fix #1449510 in RC2? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 17:47 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:47 |
| ativelkov | #vote Yes | 17:47 |
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| freerunner | #vote yes | 17:47 |
| slagun | #vote Yes | 17:47 |
| aderyugin | #vote yes | 17:48 |
| ddovbii_ | #vote Yes | 17:48 |
| sergmelikyan | ruhe ? :) | 17:48 |
| ruhe | #vote Yes | 17:48 |
| katyafervent2 | # No | 17:48 |
| ativelkov | sergmelikyan: don't we have any restrictions on our RCs from Openstack's release manager? | 17:48 |
| sergmelikyan | #endvote | 17:48 |
| openstack | Voted on "Fix #1449510 in RC2?" Results are | 17:48 |
| openstack | Yes (6): ruhe, ativelkov, slagun, freerunner, ddovbii_, aderyugin | 17:48 |
| ruhe | katyafervent2: why no? | 17:48 |
| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, no, Murano is not managed by OpenStack Release Manager | 17:48 |
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| sergmelikyan | as well as other projects joined to Big Tent recently | 17:49 |
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| katyafervent2 | do we have time for so many bugs? | 17:49 |
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| freerunner | katyafervent2: This bug should be fixed. Sometimes it blocks deployment. | 17:49 |
| slagun | katyafervent: there is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1446582 | 17:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446582 in murano "Invalid workflow of application replacement" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Stan Lagun (slagun) | 17:50 |
| sergmelikyan | Looks like we have solutions for all of them, and I believe freerunner some tests that are not yet commited for last bug | 17:50 |
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| katyafervent2 | if you are 100% sure we wikk fux it and TEST in 3 days - i dont minf | 17:50 |
| slagun | and I'm going to close close 4 bugs today | 17:50 |
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| ruhe | slagun: and not introduce any regressions as you promised before ;) | 17:50 |
| sergmelikyan | slagun, ok, Jack is also on me :) | 17:50 |
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| slagun | ruhe: I do a lot of manual testing on k8s and Docker. So at lest those 2 wont break | 17:51 |
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| slagun | sergmelikyan: :) | 17:51 |
| sergmelikyan | Let's make a deal then: if we will have fix this issues by tomorrow, and freerunner will give his +1 to reviews (obviously +1 from other reviewers as well), we agree to merge them to RC2 and release it | 17:52 |
| sergmelikyan | *for all of the mentioned issues | 17:52 |
| slagun | I'm going to commit them to master first and then we decide if we are going ti cherry-pick them to stable/kilo if you don't mind | 17:53 |
| ruhe | deal | 17:53 |
| katyafervent2 | ok | 17:54 |
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| sergmelikyan | slagun, better to propose them to stable/kilo first | 17:54 |
| sergmelikyan | will save time, testing phase will be same regardless of the branch | 17:54 |
| slagun | ok | 17:56 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Summit Etherpads | 17:57 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action sergmelikyan create etherpad for summit topics | 17:57 |
| sergmelikyan | We are little bit late on this task, mea culpa | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | I will do that ASAP | 17:58 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:58 |
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| * sergmelikyan changed topic in rush to avoid throwing eggs phase :) | 17:58 | |
| sergmelikyan | Few minutes to bring topics that we will discuss in #murano | 17:58 |
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| ruhe | time's up | 18:00 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 28 18:00:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-28-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-28-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-28-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| sergmelikyan | Thanks Team! | 18:00 |
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| sputnik13 | #startmeeting cue | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 28 18:02:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sputnik13. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cue' | 18:02 |
| davideagnello | hello everyone | 18:03 |
| sputnik13 | goooooooood morning! | 18:03 |
| abitha | good morning :) | 18:03 |
| sputnik13 | everyone here? | 18:03 |
| danielallegood | hi! | 18:03 |
| davideagnello | +1 | 18:03 |
| sputnik13 | esmute? | 18:04 |
| esmute | Oh hai | 18:04 |
| esmute | meeting | 18:04 |
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| sputnik13 | yup, meeting, we kind of skipped last week since no one was available... so let's start with actions from the week before, and I don't think we have anything specific on the agenda | 18:05 |
| sputnik13 | so we'll do open discussion afterward | 18:05 |
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| sputnik13 | sound good? | 18:05 |
| davideagnello | yup | 18:05 |
| sputnik13 | #topic integration testing approach | 18:05 |
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| sputnik13 | davideagnello and esmute you each had actions to do sample tests in rally and tempest respectively and come to a decision on which of the two to use | 18:06 |
| davideagnello | we have been reviewing Tempest and Rally test frameworks for use in Cue's Integration and Scenario test coverage | 18:06 |
| esmute | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-04-14-18.07.txt | 18:06 |
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| esmute | that was the action items from last meeting | 18:06 |
| sputnik13 | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-04-14-18.07.html | 18:06 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 18:07 |
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| davideagnello | we have decided to use Tempest for integration tests and rally for scenario tests with rally launching both integration and scenario tests | 18:07 |
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| sputnik13 | particular reasons? | 18:07 |
| davideagnello | Tempest tests will be interfacing directly to cue through the REST API | 18:08 |
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| esmute | tempest allows you to build test that are part of the common python testing framework.... like testools and unittests | 18:08 |
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| davideagnello | Rally provides a straight forward and powerful way to run overall scenario tests, run benchmarks | 18:09 |
| esmute | which mean that they provide all the functionalities and tooling that you'd expect in a testing framework... | 18:09 |
| esmute | but the most compelling reason is the maturity of tempest for integration/api tests | 18:09 |
| esmute | since all openstack projects uses them for testing, | 18:09 |
| davideagnello | Rally makes use of the service's client | 18:10 |
| esmute | i have put up a patch that will great a base int test and tests for create/list/get/delete | 18:10 |
| esmute | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177984/ | 18:10 |
| esmute | please review it when you get a chance | 18:10 |
| esmute | tests can be run by using testr or nosetests.. but i have also added a run_tests.py script that will create the env and run the test for you | 18:11 |
| davideagnello | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175524/ this patch covers Rally integration into Cue and a e2e scenario test which creates, verifies and deletes a cluster | 18:11 |
| esmute | this script will be used by the devstack-vm-gate (future) to run our tests | 18:11 |
| esmute | We choose rally for sceneraio tests... davideagnello has been looking at them mainly.. | 18:12 |
| esmute | davideagnello: can you give us an update of rally in scenario testing? | 18:12 |
| davideagnello | running the current Rally scenario test in Cue's devstack is as easy as: 1. source your openstack credentials in devstack 2. running them with: run_rally_scenarios.sh | 18:13 |
| davideagnello | esmute: ^ | 18:13 |
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| sputnik13 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177984/ | 18:13 |
| sputnik13 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175524/ | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | so these are patches for integration test using tempest and scenario test using rally respectively | 18:14 |
| sputnik13 | ? | 18:14 |
| esmute | sputnik13: yes.. | 18:14 |
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| esmute | once the int-tests go in, we can start running int tests.... | 18:15 |
| sputnik13 | ok, do we understand how to launch these as part of a gate in CI? | 18:15 |
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| sputnik13 | esmute: you're referring to tempest exclusively, yes? | 18:15 |
| esmute | next will be to hook it up with devstack-vm gate so that they are run everything we check in | 18:15 |
| esmute | sputnik13: yes.. ask davideagnello for rally and scenario tests :P | 18:15 |
| davideagnello | Rally scenario can be executed directly through a simple script | 18:16 |
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| sputnik13 | davideagnello: is there a plan to run rally scenario tests as part of a ci-gate? | 18:17 |
| davideagnello | I am currently not familiar with the CI framework, will be looking at how to add them there | 18:17 |
| davideagnello | sputnik13: yes | 18:17 |
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| sputnik13 | ok | 18:17 |
| esmute | davideagnello: we can have scripts that can be run by the gate thru hooks.. | 18:17 |
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| esmute | so if you/rally has a script that runs all tests, we can use this | 18:18 |
| sputnik13 | #action davideagnello investigate how to run rally tests in CI gate | 18:18 |
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| davideagnello | sounds good :) | 18:18 |
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| sputnik13 | and esmute you're going to be adding the integration for running the tempest tests in CI? | 18:19 |
| esmute | yes | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | #action esmute enable automatic tempest testing for all cue project repos | 18:20 |
| sputnik13 | #agreed using both tempest and rally for testing but for different types of tests (integration and scenario respectively) | 18:21 |
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| sputnik13 | btw, when providing information, you should use the info command to add information for the minutes | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 18:21 |
| sputnik13 | it's fine for today, let's try and do that in future meetings | 18:21 |
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| sputnik13 | anything more on the testing approach? | 18:22 |
| davideagnello | time to write integration and scenario tests now! | 18:23 |
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| sputnik13 | action davideagnello to write all integration and scenario tests | 18:23 |
| sputnik13 | :-D | 18:23 |
| davideagnello | hahaha | 18:23 |
| sputnik13 | alright, going once | 18:23 |
| sputnik13 | going twice | 18:23 |
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| sputnik13 | aannnddd | 18:23 |
| sputnik13 | #topic cue stickers and t-shirt | 18:23 |
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| davideagnello | do we have updated samples? | 18:24 |
| sputnik13 | I do, one sec while I find it | 18:24 |
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| sputnik13 | #link http://snag.gy/ihaRb.jpg | 18:25 |
| davideagnello | looks nice | 18:26 |
| sputnik13 | the final will be a little different, the top portion of the bottom part of the letter needs to be lightened as per vipul's feedback | 18:26 |
| davideagnello | do we have a sample that has the word Cue at the bottom in a straight horizontal line? | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | my friend was confused about which part to lighten, but other than that it's ready to go | 18:27 |
| abitha | nice! | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | no, with the word straight the whole image looks a bit off | 18:27 |
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| esmute | is the shirt black? | 18:27 |
| davideagnello | oh ok | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | I think this logo really works best on its own without any wording | 18:27 |
| sputnik13 | but the concern was that no one would know what it was for | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | esmute: no it's a hot pink | 18:28 |
| esmute | i like it... | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | :-D | 18:28 |
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| davideagnello | yeah true | 18:28 |
| abitha | the white background is only for the sticker right? | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | it's hot pink and it has sparkly rhinestones all over it | 18:28 |
| esmute | sputnik13: as long as i can wear it outside of my bedroom :P | 18:28 |
| sputnik13 | hahahah | 18:28 |
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| sputnik13 | esmute: we haven't made the t-shirts yet, we need everyone's sizes | 18:29 |
| sputnik13 | and we have until the end of the week to pick colors | 18:29 |
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| esmute | can you send a surveymonkey link with the choices? | 18:29 |
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| sputnik13 | uh, no, too much work, we're not making t-shirts for 100s of people | 18:30 |
| sputnik13 | it's just a few of us let's just take a vote in the main channel later | 18:30 |
| esmute | i'd like a low cut women's shirt just the way you described it for me wifey :) | 18:30 |
| sputnik13 | hmm, let's talk to vipul about that :-P | 18:31 |
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| esmute | ok | 18:31 |
| sputnik13 | you know you can always take a shirt and modify it ;) | 18:31 |
| sputnik13 | that's where are with the sticker and t-shirt | 18:32 |
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| sputnik13 | questions? are we good? | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | going once | 18:32 |
| sputnik13 | going twice | 18:33 |
| sputnik13 | aaannnddd we're good | 18:33 |
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| sputnik13 | #topic open discussion | 18:33 |
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| sputnik13 | any other questions, concerns, interesting tidbits? | 18:34 |
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| esmute | Pacquiao vs Mayweather this Saturday :) | 18:34 |
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| sputnik13 | boxing? | 18:35 |
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| esmute | yup.. fight of the century | 18:35 |
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| esmute | or so they say | 18:35 |
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| sputnik13 | until the next one | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | ;) | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | this century hasn't been very long either, we're in year 15 :) | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | media hype ftw | 18:35 |
| sputnik13 | actually... danielallegood | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | did you have a chance to look in to the sqlalchemy problem you were having? | 18:36 |
| sputnik13 | with version always returning None? | 18:36 |
| danielallegood | No not yet. | 18:36 |
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| sputnik13 | ok, I think that would be good to follow up on and get some closure to... if it's a sqlalchemy bug it would be good to get it filed | 18:37 |
| sputnik13 | http://www.sqlalchemy.org/support.html#irc | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | ^ says they're at #sqlalchemy | 18:38 |
| danielallegood | Ok, I'll spend some time on it today | 18:38 |
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| sputnik13 | yeah, don't spend a ton of time on it, just drop in the channel and see if anyone knows of it | 18:38 |
| sputnik13 | raise your irc aptitude a bit ;) | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | any other topics? | 18:39 |
| sputnik13 | has anyone been to the tulip festival? | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | the skagit valley tulip festival | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | totally not worth it imho, but there's a brewery there... great bbq | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 18:40 |
| sputnik13 | http://www.skagitbrew.com | 18:40 |
| abitha | I didnt visit this year.. | 18:41 |
| sputnik13 | totally recommended if you're in the area, it's on the way up to vancouver | 18:41 |
| sputnik13 | and they have bbq chicken too ;) | 18:41 |
| abitha | :) | 18:41 |
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| esmute | sputnik13: you went too late. | 18:42 |
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| esmute | it is nice between end of march and beginning of april | 18:42 |
| sputnik13 | oh, it makes that much of a difference? | 18:43 |
| sputnik13 | maybe we'll go again for bbq and shopping next beginning of next april then :) | 18:43 |
| abitha | ya. it used to have acres of flowers during the beginning of april | 18:43 |
| sputnik13 | I was a bit disappointed with the outlets up that way | 18:43 |
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| sputnik13 | ah ok, there were very few flowers when we were there | 18:44 |
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| esmute | you see miles and fields of tulips all different colors | 18:44 |
| esmute | its nice :) | 18:44 |
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| sputnik13 | hmmm, ok, we'll give it another shot next year :) | 18:45 |
| sputnik13 | if you go up, you should stop at the brewery for bbq, it was really good | 18:45 |
| sputnik13 | ok, if there's no other topics should we end the meeting? | 18:45 |
| sputnik13 | going once | 18:46 |
| sputnik13 | going twice | 18:46 |
| sputnik13 | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 28 18:46:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-04-28-18.02.html | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-04-28-18.02.txt | 18:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cue/2015/cue.2015-04-28-18.02.log.html | 18:46 |
| sputnik13 | oh, lunch time | 18:47 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 18:47 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 28 21:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-04-28_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:00 |
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| gpilz | Gilbert Pilz | 21:00 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:00 |
| devkulkarni1 | devdatta kulkarni | 21:00 |
| muralia | Murali Allada | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | hello gpilz, mkam, muralia, and devkulkarni1 | 21:01 |
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| muralia | hey everyone | 21:01 |
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| james_li | james li | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
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| adrian_otto | hello james_li and datsun180b | 21:02 |
| james_li | Hi adrian_otto | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | we will begin in just a moment. | 21:02 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:03 | |
| adrian_otto | 1) We released version 1.2.5 of python-solumclient this week. | 21:04 |
| datsun180b | that was fun | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-solumclient/1.2.5 python-solumclient | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | that concludes prepared announcements. Any announcements from team members? | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | Reminder: there will not be an IRC team meeting on Tuesday 2015-05-19 | 21:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Tagging or next release | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tagging or next release (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:06 | |
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| adrian_otto | is this also a convenient time to tag a release of Solum? | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | or is there a reason to wait for something? | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni1 | may be in couple of days.. | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | if not now then shortly | 21:07 |
| muralia | actually, we might be good dev | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni1 | there is at least one patch outstanding which I think should get it | 21:07 |
| muralia | what else are we waiting for? | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | is there a list of must-have reviews? | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni1 | muralia: my patch which will enable vagrant setup | 21:08 |
| muralia | ah i see | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni1: can you link that one here please? I'd like to watch that one. | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175075/ | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | we have a short list of reviews now | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | terrific! | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | randallburt could not make it today? | 21:09 |
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| datsun180b | i was just talking to him, i think he'll be on shortly | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:10 | |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our blueprints | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our bug list | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | this work is unfinished. I expect to finish it this week. | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | #topic PB/Task Review | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PB/Task Review (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:11 | |
| adrian_otto | s/PB/BP/ | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | any work items requiring team discussion? | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | if not, I'll advance us to Open Discussion | 21:12 |
| datsun180b | not from me | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:12 | |
| adrian_otto | anyone have any topics to raise? | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | if not, we can wrap up early today. | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni1 | adrian_otto: what is the status of our incubation request? | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni1 | was just wondering if you were able to make it to the TC meeting | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | devkulkarni1: pending completion of the two action items above | 21:13 |
| devkulkarni1 | got it | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | we decided that application would raise a number of questions, so we need to do a bunch of administrative work to prepare for it | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | including pruning out the wiki too | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | but first things first ;-) | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | the "big tent" philosophy will be something discussed a lot in Vancouver | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | so having that proposal open at about that time should be a good thing | 21:14 |
| devkulkarni1 | I see | 21:15 |
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| gpilz | from what I've be reading about the new process | 21:15 |
| gpilz | Solum should definitely be an OpenStack project | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | yes, we agree! | 21:15 |
| gpilz | we're squeaky clean with regards to our process and testing | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | oh, there was something I forgot to mention in Announcements | 21:16 |
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| adrian_otto | there were no opposing candidates for the Solum PTL role, so I will continue in that role for another term. | 21:17 |
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| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to email the dev list concluding the Solum PTL Election | 21:17 |
| datsun180b | Congratulations Adrian on your crushing defeat of all that would oppose your will over Solum! | 21:17 |
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| adrian_otto | the TC election may still be going on, so if you have not voted, there may still be time | 21:17 |
| muralia | :) great | 21:18 |
| datsun180b | I for one welcome our new Otto overlord | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for the welcome, datsun180b | 21:18 |
| gpilz | datsun - nobody even remembers what happened to the last person that tried to oppose Adrian | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | hopefully I won't be too oppressive. | 21:18 |
| gpilz | +1 | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, looks like it's a good time to wrap up. | 21:19 |
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| datsun180b | sounds good to me | 21:19 |
| adrian_otto | Our next team meeting will be 2015-05-05 at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | see you all then, hopefully announcing a release and a governance proposal. | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 28 21:20:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-28-21.00.html | 21:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-28-21.00.txt | 21:20 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-28-21.00.log.html | 21:20 |
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