Wednesday, 2017-09-06

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zhiyuanhi01:00
dongfenghi01:00
Yipeihi01:00
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zhiyuan#startmeeting tricircle01:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 01:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.01:01
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zhiyuanJoe is attending huawei connect so I think he will not attend this meeting01:03
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zhiyuanfirst I would like to share some information01:03
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zhiyuanyesterday when testing the qos patch, I found a bug in tricircle about client. do you meet this problem?01:04
zhiyuanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tricircle/+bug/171510301:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1715103 in Tricircle "create_nework in central plugin doesn't return tags filed" [Undecided,New]01:04
zhiyuanmy openstack client version is 3.12.001:05
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zhiyuanour smoke test doesn't find out this bug because it uses openstack sdk01:06
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dongfengyes, I can also have this problem:http://paste.openstack.org/show/620464/01:08
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zhiyuanthe same result01:09
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zhiyuansince we don't support tag currently, we can add an empty "tags" field in the response01:10
zhiyuanI also find that the types of resources that support tag have been increased01:11
dongfenguse neutron client can success to create a net: http://paste.openstack.org/show/620465/01:11
zhiyuanso in our later development, we can consider using tag to label resource, instead of using name01:12
zhiyuanso neutron client doesn't try to read the "tags" field01:12
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Yipeidoes using tag to label resource affect neutron client?01:15
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zhiyuanto Yipei, don't quite get your meaning. are you asking whehter neutron cilent supports tagging resource?01:18
Yipeiyes, if we use tag to label resource, can neutron client support it as well01:20
Yipeican neutron client work well as before01:22
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zhiyuanjust check the neutron client code01:22
zhiyuanthe following resources are supported01:23
zhiyuanTAG_RESOURCES = ['network', 'subnet', 'port', 'router', 'subnetpool']01:23
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zhiyuantagging port will be very useful01:24
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Yipeiok, got it with thx01:25
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zhiyuannext is about storyboard. I received a mail from the storyboard team. It's said that they have a script to migrate all the bugs from launchpad to storyboard, but migrating blueprint is not supported ye01:28
zhiyuans/ye/yet01:28
diablo_rojo_phonAnd we don't have plans to support the migration of blueprints.01:30
diablo_rojo_phonSince the concept of blueprints is launchpad specific.01:31
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zhiyuani see, fortunately there are not many blueprints in tricircle01:33
zhiyuanto diablo_rojo_phon, does the migration of bugs include closed bugs?01:35
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diablo_rojo_phonNo, only open ones as far as I know, but the history will still exist in launchpad if you need to refer back for some reason even after you disable the ability to file new bugs there.01:36
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zhiyuanok, thanks for the info.01:38
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diablo_rojo_phonNo problem :)01:38
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zhiyuannow let's go through the progress of feature development01:39
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dongfengpagination of job list needs review: https://review.openstack.org/49843001:40
zhiyuanok will review it later01:41
Yipeii am testing configure_route code in real environment. My code doesn't work well, try to fix it. And begin preparing for the spec and a guide for lbaas.01:42
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zhiyuanto yipei, maybe you can submit the spec first, it will be several runs of review before it gets merged01:44
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Yipeiok, got it01:46
zhiyuanfor qos, I tested the latest patch, something wrong with the xmanager so the "create_qos_policy" job fails01:46
RoNGHuiwe will fix it ASAP01:47
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zhiyuanthe problem is just about the function name, so it will not be hard :)01:50
RoNGHuigot it01:50
zhiyuanany other topics?01:50
dongfengno for me01:51
Yipeino01:51
RoNGHuino for me01:51
zhiyuanok, thanks for attending the meeting01:51
zhiyuan#endmeeting01:51
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dongfengbye01:52
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gongyshhi04:30
gongysh#startmeeting tacker04:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 04:30:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:30
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gongysh#topic roll call04:30
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YanXing_an0/04:31
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gongyshhi YanXing_an04:32
gongyshLets wait a few mins04:32
YanXing_anhi04:32
tbh_Hi04:32
gongyshhi, welcome tbh_04:32
YanXing_antbh_, hi04:32
tbh_Hi YanXing_an gongysh04:32
gongyshtbh_,  how is thing doing?04:33
tbh_gongysh: going good :)04:33
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gongyshtbh_,  do you have time for tacker in the queens cycle?04:34
gongyshdkushwaha, hi, welcome04:34
dkushwahao/04:34
dkushwahahi all04:34
gongyshdkushwaha, I can feel you rushed to the meeting room.04:34
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YanXing_anI'm at Interop & CLOUD CONNECT China, in Shanghai04:35
gongyshYanXing_an, what is new stuff there?04:35
jankio/04:35
gongyshjanki, hi04:36
tbh_Yes gongysh, I am planning to spend two days in a  week full time on tacker... And be present in irc in rest of the days04:36
tbh_Hope things go well this time :)04:36
gongyshtbh_, that's great.04:37
gongyshjanki, dkushwaha , what are your plans to this cycle?04:38
jankigongysh, I am planning to work on cvnf04:39
YanXing_anGongysh, my boss have a speaking here04:39
gongyshok04:39
gongyshlets start04:39
dkushwahagongysh, i am available in Tacker. And planing to focus on stability of Tacker.04:40
gongysh#topic announcement04:40
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gongyshwe have released pike04:40
gongyshand have branch for stable/pike04:40
YanXing_anSo we can commit patches freely04:41
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gongyshand the queens cycle is starting04:42
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gongysh#link https://launchpad.net/tacker04:42
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trinathso/04:43
gongyshfor bugs and bps, you can put it in queens cycle04:43
gongyshtrinaths, welcome04:43
trinathshi all04:43
trinathsHi gongysh04:43
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YanXing_anWhy queens line is under pike?04:43
gongysh#topic vPTG04:44
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gongysh#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-queen-grooming04:44
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gongyshlets decide on sept. 14?04:45
YanXing_anWe need more items added to the etherpad04:46
trinathsin the vPTG link, At https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit#04:46
trinathsthere two scenarios being discussed.04:46
trinathsone with K8s as VIM and the other is Openstack as VIM.04:46
dkushwahagongysh, could you please share PTG timing also04:47
trinathsAlso, from OPNFV, there is a discussion or need that how Tacker can extend itself/ntegrate with ONAP while cVNF management.04:47
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gongyshdkushwaha,  what do you mean by sharing PTG timing?04:48
gongyshshare with whom?04:48
trinathsgongysh:  the vPTG meeting time. I guess. dkushwaha ?04:49
dkushwahagongysh, I mean, what will be the meetup time on 14 Sept04:49
gongyshdkushwaha,  lets do step by step.04:49
gongyshfirst, do you guys agree on sept. 14?04:50
trinathsgongysh:  +!04:50
tbh_+104:50
trinaths+104:50
YanXing_an+104:50
jankigongysh, can we have it on 15? I am not available post 4 PM on 14th04:50
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gongyshjanki, how about setp. 12?04:51
dkushwaha+104:51
janki+104:51
trinaths-1 I will be late that time. Attending ETSI NFV spec fest04:52
dkushwahamy +1 for 1404:52
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trinathson 12 Spet the spec fest with be 0120 AM to 0530 AM so I will be tired and need to rush for office. also that day is my sons birthday.04:53
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gongyshour meeting is at 04:30 UTC.04:54
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gongyshso lets start 04:00 UTC, to 08:00UTC04:55
gongyshthe timing is ok for you guys?04:55
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dkushwahaok for me.04:56
YanXing_an9.14  is not irc time04:56
gongyshYanXing_an, we will skip one tacker irc meeting for vPTG04:57
tbh_Yup that works04:58
dkushwahamay be we can create a google sheet for polling, As we have different time zones so that other person can suggest.04:58
YanXing_anok04:58
gongyshdkushwaha, ok, can you help to create one?04:58
dkushwahagongysh, sure, i will create04:58
trinathsso it will be 0930 HRS IST to 1300 HRS IST ?04:59
gongyshtrinaths, we use UTC,  the English in time zone.05:00
gongyshdkushwaha, are you doing now or after meeting?05:00
trinathsok05:00
dkushwahagongysh, just after meeting05:00
gongyshdkushwaha05:00
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gongysh#action dkushwaha to create google sheet for vPTG timing polling, others to fill in own timing preference.05:01
gongysh#topic sydney summit05:02
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gongyshI will go to sydney if the visa is ok05:02
gongyshand do a project udpate05:03
trinathsnice05:03
gongyshwho else will go?05:03
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gongyshtrinaths, aren't you?05:04
digasorry I was away since many weeks due to some personal work and medical issues05:04
trinathsgongysh: dont know. yet to decide.05:04
gongyshdiga, welcome05:04
YanXing_anDiga, welcome back05:05
dkushwahagongysh, i will go, if my company support.05:05
tbh_gongysh: same here if visa is ok05:05
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digagongysh: YanXing_an : Hi05:05
trinathsdiga: hi, welcome back. hope you are doing good.05:05
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digatrinaths: Hey, yep05:05
gongyshtbh_ dkushwaha , trinaths  and other guys, if you are at summit, we can have a meet at session 'project update for tacker'.05:06
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trinathsgongysh:  +105:06
longkbHi everybody, I am a new guy who has joined in Tacker. It's nice to meet you guys.05:06
dkushwahagongysh, +105:06
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tbh_Sure05:07
trinathslongkb: Hi welcome to Tacker.05:07
dkushwahawelcome longkb05:07
digalongkb: welcome!05:07
gongyshlongkb, welcome05:07
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gongysh#topic coding05:08
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YanXing_anLongkb, welcome05:08
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gongyshdkushwaha,  do you have more patches coming for monitoring policies so that I can have an end-to-end testing?05:09
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gongyshdkushwaha ?05:11
dkushwahagongysh, yes, i can resume it after couple of days05:11
dkushwahamay be by this weekend05:11
gongyshdkushwaha, can I have it next monday?05:12
dkushwahagongysh, yup, monday should be fine05:13
gongyshdkushwaha, ok thanks05:13
gongyshwe also need a docker images installation doc for tacker05:13
gongyshhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/kolla-deploy-tacker05:14
gongyshwhich is one registered by an inspur guys.05:14
trinathshttp://egonzalez.org/openstack-tacker-and-service-function-chaining-sfc-with-kolla/05:14
gongyshbut I am afraid if he/she is able to do it.05:14
trinathsthere is some link for kolla contributor (shared above).05:15
gongyshtrinaths, thanks05:16
gongyshthat helps lots05:17
gongysh#topic open discussion05:17
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trinathsgongysh: thanks for updating the launchpad05:17
trinathslongkb: can you introduce yourself and your interest in Tacker.05:17
phuoc_gongysh can you create queen folder in tacker-specs05:17
gongyshphuoc_, sure05:18
trinathsphuoc_: +105:18
gongyshthanks for reminding05:18
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trinathsare there any issues with AUS visa ?05:19
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gongyshtrinaths, I don't think so05:20
gongyshlongkb, hi05:20
xuan0802Hi, all. I am xuan, new to Tacker. Same team with Longkb05:20
gongyshdo you want to introduce yourself?05:20
longkbHi, I am colleague of tung_doan and phuoc.05:20
gongyshxuan0802, welcome05:20
gongysho05:20
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gongyshwelcome longkb and xuan080205:21
xuan0802Thanks you gongysh05:21
gongyshtung_doan isn't here today.05:21
gongyshtrinaths, hi, you have refered to ONAP05:21
longkbCurrently, I am a member of Internet Infra System Technology research center in South Korea05:21
gongyshwhat is the progress of ONAP now?05:22
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gongyshis there a way to set up an ONAP env now?05:22
tbh_Yeah we can setup ONAP.05:22
tbh_But it takes lot of resources05:23
tbh_But am not sure in what role tacker can play here05:23
tbh_Probably as generic vnfm?05:23
jankihey guys. dropping off. will be back in some time05:24
trinathstbh_:  +1.05:24
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trinathsyesterday in containter4nfv weekly meeting nokia guys have outlined to use tacker with ONAP for cVNF managmeent05:25
gongyshtrinaths,  is there guys in OPNFV who set up ONAP?05:25
trinathsgongysh:  yes05:25
trinathsgongysh:  you can request a vPOD and try ONAP05:26
gongyshtrinaths, do you have URL?05:26
phuoc__trinaths, I will make a blueprint about containerized VNF05:26
phuoc__so I hope you can join and help me05:26
trinathsgongysh: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Lab+as+a+Service05:26
trinathsphuoc__: +1 add janki too05:26
phuoc__I also ask her too :)05:27
trinathsphuoc__: nice.05:27
gongyshtrinaths, and ONAP in OPNFV url?05:27
trinathsgongysh: integration05:27
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gongyshtrinaths, do you have the integration url?05:27
trinathsgongysh:  https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Lab+as+a+Service - ONAP OPNFV integration. in progress05:28
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trinathshttps://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Tiny+OpenStack+Lab+for+ONAP05:28
trinathshttps://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Tutorial%3A+Configuring+and+Starting+Up+the+Base+ONAP+Stack05:28
gongyshtrinaths, great, thanks05:28
gongyshthanks everyone05:28
trinathsgongysh: https://wiki.opnfv.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1238721605:29
gongyshtime's up05:29
trinathsgongysh: tung_doan some time back proposed this with tacker05:29
trinathsprobably last month05:29
gongysh#url https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Tiny+OpenStack+Lab+for+ONAP05:29
gongysh#endmeeting05:30
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mattoliverau#startmeeting swift07:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 07:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattoliverau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'07:01
mattoliverauwho's here for the swift team meeting?07:01
mahatico/07:01
mattoliverauIt might be a little early for stragglers, so I'll wait a bit07:02
mattoliveraumahatic: \o/07:02
mattoliverauacoles is in the US, so he's sleeping07:02
mattoliverauI haven't heard from kota_ or anyone else today07:02
mahaticyeah, let's wait up for a bit07:03
mattoliverauWe'll give it a few more minutes, and if no one else comes, we'll start.. and it'll probably be quick07:03
mahaticyeah07:03
mattoliverautoday is mainly information, as the PTG is next week07:03
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mathiasbgood morning mattoliverau, mahatic!07:04
mattoliveraumathiasb: o/07:04
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mahaticmathiasb: good morning07:04
m_kazuhirogood morning07:06
rledisezhi o/07:06
mattoliveraum_kazuhiro: o/07:06
mattoliveraurledisez: o/07:06
mattoliveraucool, I think this will be enough :)07:07
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mattoliverauAs I already mentioned todays meeting is the last 0700 meeting before the PTG. So mainly has info07:07
mattoliverauAgenda is:07:08
mattoliverau#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift07:08
mattoliverauso strangely the first topic is the PTG :P07:08
mattoliverau#topic Denver PTG07:08
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mattoliverauSo Denver is next week! I look forward to seeing people there.07:09
mattoliverauSeeing as it's next week... I'm sure y'all are all ready, but in case your not...07:09
mattoliverauhmm, too many all's in that sentence ^^07:09
mattoliverau:P07:09
mattoliverauSo the etherpad of topics are in the #openstack-swift channel header but:07:10
mahaticwe didn't notice ;)07:10
mattoliverau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens07:10
mattoliverau:)07:10
mahatic(the all's)07:10
mattoliverauIf you have a topic on the etherpad, there is a new section called, 'what to review _before_ ptg'. So if you want interested persons ready for conversaions then please add something there.07:10
mattoliverauif you don't then be prepared to explain everything again ;)07:11
mattoliveraunote: I highlighted the _before_ as I need some reading for the long flight :P07:11
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mathiasbor perhaps regardless ;)07:12
mattoliveraulol, yeah, that's probably more to the point.. but we can dream :)07:12
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mattoliverauAs with the last PTG, there will be team photo. So in case you want to 1) look your best or 2) want to aviod it, it'll be on Wednesday at 2:50pm07:13
mattoliverau#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18DmI9ydq6dKr4hAcoAN83vYXWn8TV1NEvy09Ll02_Y0/edit#gid=007:13
mattoliverau^^ there is a link to the photo schedule in case you want to photo bomb anyone elses ;)07:14
mattoliverauSwift stuff will run from Wednesday - Friday. But for those of us who will be there on the Monday and Tuesday, this is also a bunch going on.07:14
mattoliverauFirstly Monday and Tuesday will be the thematic inter-project rooms, so you can go get involved on more cross OpenStack inititives.07:14
mattoliverauIf you have done that, and find your self with free time, we are planning a bug triage smash, more on this later.07:14
mattoliverauHaving the general list of etherpads for the PTG is good, especially if there is other things you either want to know about or participate in.07:15
mattoliverau#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads07:15
mattoliverauFeedback from the last PTG that I heard, was that it was hard to know exactly what was happening in other projects, unless you read etherpads... which are in the ether and easily subject to change.07:15
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mathiasbyes that's true, especially since some working groups had no schedule, or changed it frequently and/or at the last minute07:16
mattoliverauSo this time there is something new07:16
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mathiasblast time there was also an IRC channel so you might want to join that as well (#openstack-ptg ?)07:16
mattoliveraulooks like Openstack Infra have solved it.. in a pretty cool way.. but also in the most Openstack developer way possible..07:16
mattoliveraumathiasb: yes! there is that07:17
mattoliveraubut now there is also the PTGBot!07:17
mahaticoic07:17
mathiasbawesome! :)07:17
mattoliveraubut we wont need to deal with it directly07:17
mattoliverauThe PTLs and/or moderators will have powers to talk to the PTGbot. These will allow them to fire off notices about what happening in their room and what's up next. This way PTGs can be fluid, organic yet people can more easily now whats happening when.07:18
mattoliverauThe TPGbot will be updating a website07:18
mattoliverau#link http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html07:18
mattoliverauSo keep an eye on that, if you are interesting in attending different things, or want to keep track on whats happening.07:18
mattoliverauSo it's actually an awesome solution.. use the tools we already use.07:19
mattoliverauwell I think so anyway07:19
mattoliveraus/now/know/07:19
mattoliverauOK, I know that's alot of links.. but never fear, there is a quicklinks.. one link to remember (or bookmark) to rule them all07:20
mattoliverau#link http://ptg.openstack.org/07:20
mattoliverauThats all I have for the PTG, any questions?07:21
mattoliverauI hope we'd have a chance to do a Swift dinner, but knowing us, it'll probably be adhoc and happen most nights (at least with a subset of the team) each night ;)07:22
mahaticyeah, I'm sure. I'm gonna miss that!07:22
mathiasbme too :(07:22
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mattoliveraumahatic: if you send us a picture, I'll print it out and carry it around with us, and hold it up for the group photo ;)07:23
mattoliverauok, both of you :)07:23
mahaticlol, sure07:23
mattoliverauIf there are no more questions, then..07:23
mattoliverau#topic Great bug triage of 201707:23
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mahaticI'll photoshop myself into the picture ;)07:23
mahaticgroup photo*07:24
mattoliveraumahatic: that works too ;)07:24
mahaticoh next topic07:24
* mattoliverau notes the best thing about charing is I can make up the topic names ;)07:24
mattoliverauso this is ongoing.07:24
mattoliverau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list07:24
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mattoliverauthere is an etherpad of bugs07:25
mahaticI debuted into the bug triaging today. I hope to keep working at it07:25
mattoliveraumahatic: nice!07:25
mahaticnice work everyone else!07:25
mattoliverauFor those interested, but not sure whats going on, read the top of the etherpad.07:25
mattoliverauBut tl;dr is we want to get our bugs in order, we have many, and many are very old.07:25
mattoliverauSo phase 1 is to triage all the "new" bugs.07:25
mattoliverauBugs marked 'new' are not triaged, and there are some old ones there. So first lets triage them (see top of etherpad).07:25
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mattoliveraumarking them off as you triage them on the etherpad would also be good so we know where people are at.07:26
mattoliverauLater we can re-triage other bugs and see if there still relevent.07:26
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mattoliverauAs I mentioned earlier, we plan to talk about bug triage, getting a handle on them and running a triage smash at the PTG, the smash at least will occur during the Monday and Tuesday, but of course you can go and triage whenever you want.. start now :)07:27
mattoliveraulike mahatic, everyone be like mahatic and go triage ;)07:27
mahatic:D, don't be like me, be quick about it!07:28
mahatic;)07:28
mattoliverauHopefully when we come back from the PTG, we'll have more of a plan on stopping the bugs from building up so much again.07:28
mattoliverauAny questions?07:29
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mattoliveraucool, next topic is close to my heart... well close anyway07:30
mattoliverau#topic Sydney Summit07:30
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mahaticnot as of now. maybe when you're all back from the PTG and give us an update on it07:30
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mattoliverauwill do!07:30
mahaticon whatever brainstorming that takes place07:30
mahaticthanks!07:30
mattoliverauit'll hopefully be etherpadded and then I'll make sure its reported back07:31
mattoliverauor I'll bug notmyname too ;P07:31
mahaticheh07:32
mattoliverauok, so Sydney summit07:32
mattoliverauThe schedule has been released:07:32
mattoliverau#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule07:32
mattoliverauYes I know Sydney is along way away, and it's only 3 days.. but please join me in my neck of the woods :)07:32
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mahaticNot many talks by the swift team either. I think Kota has one07:33
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mattoliverauIf you need a business case for staying longer, I'm sure we can come up with some excuse.. maybe a swift hackathon at my beach house ;)07:33
mattoliverauyeah, the 3 days for a conference on the otherside of the world makes it a big rough07:34
mahaticI hope to, as is the case usually, I don't know yet on my summit attendance. Should know about it soon enough though07:34
mattoliveraubut Australia is a great place to visit (not that I am biased)07:34
mahaticmattoliverau: it ain't rough for me ;)07:34
mattoliverauYou wont regret it.. yes its a long flight but you'll get to have a taste of how my OpenStack trips start and end ;)07:34
mattoliveraumahatic: yeah, go team 0700!07:35
mattoliverauThats all I've got07:35
mahaticmattoliverau: lol. Openstack team could really use you on their marketing team for the Sydney summit ;)07:35
mattoliveraulol07:36
mahaticgood job, I'm sold. I hope to make it :D07:36
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mattoliverauso unless you want to discuss more about coming to visit me, or need my address to write a business case, we can move on07:36
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mattoliverau#topic Open Discussion07:37
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mattoliverauAnything else anyone want to bring up?07:37
mattoliverauI guess not07:38
mattoliverauif you do fire away, but in the mean time, I'll move to next meetings chair person07:38
mattoliverau#topic Next Meeting's Chairperson07:39
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mattoliverauAnyone interested in charing07:39
mattoliverau*chairing07:39
mattoliverauwhose next on the name list?07:39
mahaticshould it be from someone who had been at the PTG, so we have an update?07:40
mattoliveraumahatic: yeah, that sounds good.07:40
mattoliveraubut we don't have much attendance here to come up with chair.07:41
mattoliverauso lets say:07:41
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mattoliverau#agreed chairperson will be someone who attended PTG (or mattoliverau if noone else agrees to it)07:42
mattoliverau#action mattoliver to pester Swift PTG attendees next week07:43
mahaticthanks mattoliverau07:43
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mattoliveraunps07:43
mattoliveraumahatic, mathiasb I wish you both were coming07:44
mattoliverauif there is nothng else to bring up, I think we can call it time07:44
mahaticme too07:44
mahaticyup07:44
mahaticthanks for chairing!07:44
mattoliveraunps07:44
m_kazuhiro_mattoliverau: thank you!07:44
mattoliverauI hope everyone has a great week next week. Either at PTG or not. If you can't make it, we'll miss you.07:45
mattoliverauNow to channel my inner notmyname, thank you for your work on swift!07:45
mattoliverau#endmeeting07:45
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 14:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'monasca'14:01
rhochmutho/14:01
Dobroslaw_hello14:01
cbelluccio/14:01
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rhochmuthhi everyone14:01
joadaviso/14:01
rhochmuthwitek is out today14:01
rhochmuthso, it guess it is back to me this week14:01
rhochmuthno agenda items have been posted14:02
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rhochmuthdo we have some items to add to the agenda14:03
rhochmuthpossibly some updates from last week14:03
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tobiajohi14:04
BeHaveehi14:04
joadavisI've just got a thought about the mid-cycle meeting.  I think those of us involved in Ceilosca would like to join if it isn't going to derail things14:04
rhochmuthhi tomiago and BeHavee14:04
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nseyvethello14:04
rhochmuthjoadavis: sounds like a good topic to discuss14:04
joe_whello14:04
rhochmuthi've been out of the loop on that for a while14:04
nseyvetI would like to discuss updating the kafka-> persister python library14:05
joadavisYeah, we definitely could use some discussion around architecture going forward, especially as Ceilometer project is pivoting to be very Gnocchi directed14:05
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joadavisI hope we can continue to improve metering related functions for Monasca users14:06
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schi14:06
rhochmuthok, so let's start with the kafka library first14:06
rhochmuth#topic afka-> persister python library14:07
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rhochmuthnseyvet: you have the floor14:07
nseyvetFirst, I would liek to know how to go forward and submit updating the python kafka library to a later version?14:07
nseyvetIt seems to be using an old version, with offset manipulations in ZK atm14:08
nseyvetwe would like to move it forward to kafka 0.10+14:08
rhochmuththere were problems with the newer versions with stability and performance14:08
rhochmuthi don't know if those have been resolved14:08
rhochmuthhave you tests14:08
nseyvetsomeone in our team made a quick benchmark and performance was about 20% higher14:09
nseyvetbut we have not tested for stability14:09
Dobroslaw_with pure Python implementation or using librdkafka?14:09
rhochmuthwe basically forked the library in monasca-common14:09
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rhochmuthbecause upstream openstack wanted to use the newever version and it wouldn't work for us14:11
Dobroslaw_also one person in our team was looking shortly on upgrading it and he said that going 0.9 to 2.6 is like using completely new library...14:11
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nseyvetyes, that is also our finding14:11
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nseyvetso, how to move forward?  Create a "specifications"?14:12
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nseyvetI dont have the exact info as to which lib was looked at.. sorry14:12
rhochmuthcreating a specification would be a good start14:12
Dobroslaw_if newer Pykafka is so different then maybe https://github.com/confluentinc/confluent-kafka-python also would be good to look at14:13
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rhochmuthi think the confluent library is a good one to use14:13
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nseyvetOk. I take note. And I agree on the confluent one.14:14
rhochmuthhowever, the problem is that is requires C code to be built as well14:14
nseyvetso we will submit a specification.14:14
rhochmuthso install/deployment is more complicated14:14
Dobroslaw_hmmm, true14:14
rhochmuththere was another library that joe keen was looking at14:15
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rhochmuthforgot the name of it14:15
Dobroslaw_newer PyKafka have two backends: pure Python and faster librdkafka14:15
rhochmuththat is the one14:15
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rhochmuththx Dobroslaw_14:16
Dobroslaw_(same as in confluent-kafka-python)14:16
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nseyvetare there any C dependencies in the python persister today?  Because when I look at the docker images, it lists some14:16
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nseyvetlike "linux-headers libxml2-dev libxslt-dev" etc14:17
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akiraYhi, all14:19
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nseyvetWe will submit a specification.  Then we see.14:21
nseyvetthanks for info.14:21
rhochmuthok14:21
rhochmuththanks nseyvet14:21
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rhochmuthwhat should the next topic be14:22
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tobiajomaybe go over to pykafka in monasca-common? we could set pure python as default, and make it possible to use librdkafka if one want14:22
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rhochmuthtobiajo: good idea, i think that is similar to what joe proposed14:23
rhochmuthtoo14:23
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nseyvetCeilosca?14:25
rhochmuth#topic ceilosca14:25
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joadavisSure. :)  Do we want to put a slice of time on the midcycle agenda for Ceilosca?14:25
rhochmuthi lost my link to the etherpad for the mid cycle14:26
joadavissome topics could include changes in Ceilometer project (like deprecation of Ceilometer API), other sources of metrics (like Prometheus) that could be funneled in to Monasca...14:27
rhochmuthbut, yes, someone should add that as a agenda item and propose a date14:27
joadavisTry https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_queens_midcycle14:27
rhochmuththx14:27
joadavis... and other things like events and alarms that could be run through Monasca to match any feature set from the Telemetry project.14:27
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efoleyAre there any attendees from the telemetry project?14:28
joadavisI doubt any telemetry project folks are planning to attend the virtual mid-cycle for Monasca14:29
efoleyIf you're proposing changes to align/match their metrics/events, wouldn't it make sense to invite them?14:30
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joadavisCeilosca already matches the metrics (by matches I mean funnels ceilometer metrics into Monasca).  Monasca already has some work around events.14:31
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joadavisWe can invite them, I just doubt they have much interest14:31
efoleyThey might be interested in the discussion around TSDB support, as gnocchi fits the bill.14:32
joadavis<biting my tongue>14:32
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rhochmuthsure, i would be interested in a gnocchi discussion14:33
rhochmuththere were some questions around metrics injest rates and query performance14:33
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joadavisIs there a right way to invite them?  Open post to #openstack-telemetry?14:36
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nseyvethow different are the telemetry vs monasca objectives?14:40
rhochmuthis anyone here that can help to answer/clarify14:41
efoleyI can't anyway.14:42
efoleyTry a post to the mailing list to invite the telemetry team14:42
rhochmuththx efoley14:43
joadavisI don't think I'm qualified to articulate it. :)  I have opinions but I'd just get myself in trouble14:43
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rhochmuthi'll leave that to witek to handle i guess14:43
joadavisI'll take an action item to come up with a focused item or two re: Ceilometer for the mid cycle meetings14:44
sc witek is off this week IIRC14:44
rhochmuththx joadavis14:44
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rhochmuthso are there more topics to address for today14:47
rhochmuthtsdb updates14:47
rhochmuth?14:47
akiraYogriddb14:47
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rhochmuthakiraYo: sure14:48
rhochmuth#topic griddb14:49
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akiraYoI'm working to improve DB healthcheck.14:49
rhochmuththx, is that the refactoring that i requested14:49
akiraYoyes.14:50
rhochmuthgreat, i'll take a look14:50
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akiraYothx14:51
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rhochmuthakiraYo: did you poast a new patch set?14:51
rhochmuthi don't see one listed14:51
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akiraYonot yet14:52
rhochmuthare you planning too?14:52
akiraYoimproving unittests14:52
rhochmuththx14:52
rhochmuthi thought you had posted already, just clarifying14:52
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akiraYook.14:53
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akiraYoand I got mails about requirements of TSDB14:55
rhochmuthso, i'm going to have to close the meeting down shortly14:56
rhochmuthany final comments or requests?14:56
nseyvetall good. ty14:57
joadavishave a nice day14:57
rhochmuththanks everyone14:57
Dobroslaw_thank you14:57
rhochmuth#endmeeting14:57
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akiraYothank you.14:57
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jungleboyj#startmeeting cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 16:00:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
smcginnisjungleboyj: Whew, was just about to cover for you. :)16:00
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erlonhey16:00
e0nehi16:00
jungleboyjcourtesy ping:  dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne16:00
jungleboyjabishop sivn16:00
* erlon raises out of the fog riding his dragon and saves the season :)16:00
tommylikehuhi16:00
geguileohi! o/16:01
diablo_rojo_phonHello16:01
smcginniserlon: Hey!!16:01
tommylikehuerlon is back!16:01
jungleboyj#chair smcginnis16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: jungleboyj smcginnis16:01
jungleboyjerlon!16:01
patrickeastHi16:01
xyang1Hi16:01
smcginniserlon: Back on OpenStack?16:01
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  I made it.16:01
erlonhey! back16:01
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erlonsmcginnis: yeap16:01
tommylikehuerlon:  lol16:01
smcginniserlon: Awesome! Welcome back.16:01
jungleboyjerlon:  That is awesome news.  Welcome back!16:01
jungleboyjsmcginnis: jinx16:01
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smcginnis:P16:01
erlonsmcginnis: jungleboyj: thanks!16:02
SwansonHello.16:02
e0nejungleboyj: are you  is too lazy to chair yourself? :)16:02
kaisers_o/16:02
erlonsmcginnis: jungleboyj: good to be back :)16:02
jungleboyje0ne:  No, had an appointment moved on top of this so smcginnis  Can take over if we go over 30 minutes.16:02
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jungleboyjSo, lets get started so we can get through as much as possible.16:02
geguileoerlon: awesome!16:02
tbarronhi16:03
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jungleboyj#topic announcements16:03
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e0ne#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings#Next_meeting16:03
jungleboyjSo, I have the usual link to the spec review etherpad:16:03
jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking16:03
jungleboyjI didn't get a chance to update it yet but will before the PTG so that we can discuss anything if necessary.16:04
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jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens16:04
jungleboyjI have added time slots to the etherpad for the Queens PTG.16:04
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jungleboyjPlease take a look and let me know if you have concerns.  I know e0ne  need me to move up a topic from Friday.16:04
jungleboyjPing me if there are other concerns.16:05
scottda_hi16:05
jungleboyjscottda_:  Welcome.16:05
jungleboyjSo, that was all I had for announcements.16:05
smcginnisjungleboyj: Can we start off fresh and remove the coloring for now?16:05
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  In the etherpad?16:06
smcginnisYeah... gives me a headache. :)16:06
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Yeah, that might be a good idea.16:06
jungleboyjNo reason not to.16:06
jungleboyjAnything else on those topics?16:06
smcginnisI think it helps then seeing what gets noted during the PTG.16:06
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  I am also going to split those out to per day etherpads for the notes.16:07
smcginnis++16:07
lhx_hi16:07
jungleboyj:-)  Ok, anything else on that topic?16:07
e0nejungleboyj: thanks once more for shifting the schedule16:07
jungleboyj#topic Cinder Team Outing16:07
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jungleboyje0ne: No problem.  Glad to help.16:08
jungleboyjSo, it looks like the general agreement for the team outing is Thursday.16:08
e0nejungleboyj: did we find the place for this meetup?16:08
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jungleboyjHeard from smcginnis  that it conflicts with the TC dinner.  :-(16:08
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e0ne:(16:08
erlonjungleboyj: +1 yeap, seems the best for everyone16:08
jungleboyjI am thinking we may shoot for a bit later time so that Sean can catch up with us after the TC dinner wraps up.16:09
smcginnisDon't worry about working around my schedule.16:09
smcginnisI'll have to figure it out.16:09
jungleboyje0ne:  I haven't picked the place yet.  Was going to work on that today/tomorrow and put the info into the Etherpad  for people to indicate who is coming so I can reserve space.16:09
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smcginnisJust afraid if you go later, then so will the TC one. Just impacts me, so just do whatever works best for the group.16:10
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok.16:10
diablo_rojo_phonWe can do dinner and then continue drinking like we always do and Sarah can find us then?16:10
diablo_rojo_phonSean16:10
smcginnisjungleboyj: Maybe we should conveniently pick the same place as the TC. :-D16:10
diablo_rojo_phonPhone autocorrect..16:10
smcginnisSarah? Hah!16:10
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo_phon:  I will say.  :-)16:10
e0ne:)16:10
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jungleboyjHe would make a good Sarah.16:10
jungleboyjNot!16:11
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* jungleboyj shakes my head16:11
jungleboyjSo, I will find a place with good food and drink like usual.16:11
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jungleboyjI will send a note to the ML once it is in the etherpad.16:11
jungleboyjPlease sign up if you are planning to come.16:12
jungleboyjAnyone have anything else to share there?16:12
smcginnisJust to point out, outing sign up on line 34 of the PTG etherpad.16:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Thank you.16:13
jungleboyj#topic Using Etherpad for Meeting Agenda/Notes16:13
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Had shared the idea of moving from using the wiki to using an etherpad for our meeting agendas.16:13
jungleboyjSomething like what glance does:16:13
jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda16:14
e0neI'm not against of this idea, but we have to add links to meeting logs to that etherpad too16:14
jungleboyjWe could do an etherpad per release and it would give us a little easier/better way to reference old etherpads.16:14
smcginnisKind of fits inline with how we handle summit and ptg meetings.16:14
jungleboyje0ne: Absolutely.  That would actually be very helpful.16:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Right.16:14
smcginnisAnd let's anyone add notes for topics so we don't need to grep through meeting logs to find what was said.16:14
smcginnisEven though we should be using #action and #info probably more liberally.16:15
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e0nesmcginnis: it'a a bit different, IMO. we're got meeting minutes generated by bot now16:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  I used to always keep personal notes.  I would use that instead.16:15
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erlonsmcginnis: wouldn't that the purpouse of the meeting boots commands?16:15
jungleboyje0ne:  Right, but they really don't capture everything.  We should be better about using the commands.16:15
e0nejungleboyj: +116:16
smcginnise0ne: True. This would just be a supplement to the official meeting minutes. Would also allow people to go back later that couldn't attend and add notes.16:16
e0nesmcginnis: I like it! sounds very reasonable16:16
smcginnisThere's been a general push to make it easier for non-US timezones to be able to participate easier, and this would be a slight improvement for those folks.16:16
jungleboyje0ne:  smcginnis  Right, just want a place to keep a history of the topics better and pointers to the official meeting minutes and then some supplemental information.16:16
tommylikehusmcginnis:  yes16:17
diablo_rojo_phonI don't care where agenda is, but we're definitely should make more use of the bot.16:17
smcginnis++16:17
e0ne+116:17
jungleboyjSo, I would like to start trying this after the PTG.16:17
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo_phon: ++16:17
smcginnis#action jungleboyj to use bot commands more extensively16:17
smcginnis:P16:17
erlon:)16:17
tommylikehulol16:17
e0ne:)16:17
jungleboyj#agreement I should use the bot commands more.16:18
e0ne:)16:18
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erlonjungleboyj: is there any command only allowed to the host? or anyone can add thinks like links etc16:18
jungleboyj#action jungleboyj to update to point to new etherpad.16:18
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e0neerlon: everyone can use commands like '#link'16:18
jungleboyj#action jungleboyj to create new etherpad for next meeting.16:18
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jungleboyjerlon:  I am not totally sure.16:19
jungleboyjI think anyone can do link and action ?16:19
smcginnisI like that Glance lists a lot of the commands at the top of their etherpad.16:19
e0ne#link meeting commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot16:19
smcginnisjungleboyj: I believe that's correct.16:19
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Right, I was going to copy that stuff.16:19
smcginnise0ne: :)16:19
jungleboyjCool.16:20
jungleboyjSo, any objections to giving that a try?16:20
e0nejungleboyj: you have to use #vote command now16:20
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jungleboyje0ne:  Ha ha!16:21
smcginnisOr you can make an executive decision.16:21
jungleboyjOk, I am going to take that as silent agreement.16:21
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jungleboyj#agreement We will try doing meeting agendas and notes in an etherpad after the ptg.16:21
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Look at my executive authority!16:22
e0ne#help16:22
erlonlol16:22
smcginnisNo help for you!16:22
jungleboyj:-)16:22
diablo_rojo_phoneOne :)16:22
e0ne'#help' doesn't work16:22
jungleboyj#topic  Add total count information in our list APIs16:22
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jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Take it away.16:22
tommylikehujungleboyj:  thanks!16:22
jungleboyj#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500665/16:23
e0netommylikehu: do we have API WG decision for it?16:23
tommylikehuThis feature can be used for showing how many resources a user or tenant has in the web portal's summary section.16:23
e0neI'm afraid that we'll have a big performance impact there16:23
tommylikehue0ne:  I am not sure16:23
tommylikehue0ne:  that's why I added a query parameter to turn it on.16:23
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e0ne#link https://github.com/openstack/api-wg/blob/64e3e9b07272f50353429dc51d98524642ab6d67/guidelines/counting.rst#L1216:24
xyang2jungleboyj: the meeting agenda date is wrong.  It says Aug. 3016:24
jungleboyjxyang2:  Ooops, sorry.  Still learning.  Forgot to update the date.16:24
tommylikehue0ne: oh, I didn't see it16:24
smcginnisPfft. The old PTL never had that problem.16:24
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* jungleboyj shakes my head again16:25
smcginnis:P16:25
e0newe can't block this feature, if API WG approved it. sooner or later it will be implemented16:25
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smcginnise0ne, tommylikehu: Wasn't aware of that. So looks like a precedent is already set and we should use with_count.16:25
e0netommylikehu: we have to check if your proposal corresponds to guidlines16:25
tommylikehue0ne:  sure!16:25
smcginnisI don't think performance will be an issue. A SQL COUNT(*) is pretty quick and painless.16:25
smcginnisA lot better than getting all records and iterating over them.16:26
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  ++16:26
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tommylikehue0ne:  it looks similar to my proposal16:26
jungleboyjSo, it sounds like we need to make sure that the API WG has agreed to this and that we are following the guidelines.16:27
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Can you follow up on that?16:27
tommylikehujungleboyj:  ok16:27
jungleboyjWe can follow up next week?16:27
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tommylikehujungleboyj:  so they will have their choice next week?16:28
jungleboyj#action tommylikehu  to follow up and make sure that his proposal matches with the API WG guidelines .16:28
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  What do you mean?16:28
tommylikehujungleboyj:  misunderstood, I got it16:28
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Right, if the API WG doesn't have a decision yet then we will need to further discuss what we want to do.16:28
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smcginnisLooks like that's merged, so it should be official.16:29
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Just asking you to follow up so we can make an informed decision.  It doesn't seem like this should be a big deal though.16:29
e0nesmcginnis: +116:29
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok.  So, just a matter of making sure we are in compliance then.16:29
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tommylikehugreat!16:29
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Anything else there?16:30
tommylikehunope16:30
jungleboyj#topic Do we need to bump microversion for new code supported filter key?16:30
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jungleboyjtommylikehu:  You again.16:30
tommylikehuok, it's a simple question16:30
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jungleboyj#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489945/16:30
tommylikehudo we need to bump microversion for this api change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489945/16:31
geguileotommylikehu: yes16:31
tommylikehuI know we intended to get ride of bumping microversion for adding new filter keys by generic filter feature, but I am not sure it works for this case, because we have to let the administrator know whether he really can configure this option.16:31
tommylikehugeguileo:  thanks!16:31
e0neI remember similar discussion in the past, but I don't remember our decision16:31
geguileotommylikehu: hey, that's just my opinion  ;-)16:31
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  I think in this case we need to bump since it is outside the generic filter.16:31
smcginnisNo, that was part of the point of the generic filters.16:32
smcginnisYou can query what the available filters are, so we don't need to bump every time for every little thing.16:32
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tommylikehuthe issue is how we can let the administrator know whether he can configure it.16:33
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smcginnisWhether they can configure generic filtering?16:33
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tommylikehusmcginnis:  whether he can configure that filter key16:33
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* jungleboyj is handing over to smcginnis to wrap up this discussion. Sorry for having to duck out.16:34
smcginnisOh, this isn't the generic filtering?16:34
tommylikehuor in another word whether the filter key can really work16:34
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tommylikehusmcginnis:  it's a part of the generic filtering16:34
smcginnisOK, skimming the patch. So you are actually adding a new property to the snapshot details of availability_zone?16:35
tommylikehusmcginnis:  new filter key supported for snapshot16:36
smcginnistommylikehu: But for a new property? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489945/5/cinder/api/v3/snapshots.py16:36
smcginnisOh, that's search opts.16:36
tommylikehusmcginnis:  yes16:36
smcginnistommylikehu: So remind me - with the generic filtering the user can query to get a list of available filter options, right?16:37
tommylikehusmcginnis:  right16:37
smcginnisSo I thought the point of that was so we didn't have to have a bunch of microversion bumps by keeping the API set, and allowing the values that can be passed into it to be discoverable via API.16:38
tommylikehubut my question here is how can we tell the administrator yes, you can configure this filter in your config file16:38
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smcginnisBy them querying the list of available filters.16:39
tommylikehusmcginnis:  the available filters are configured by the administrator16:39
tommylikehunot hard coded16:39
smcginnisThe admin needs to know what they are setting up. I think the release note calling this out is sufficient. And adding it to the resource_filters.json file is good too.16:40
smcginnisI think that was jgriffith's thought behind this way too.16:41
tommylikehusmcginnis:  our end users will not care about the microversion?16:42
smcginnistommylikehu: I don't think so, because to them that doesn't really make a difference and just adds complexity.16:42
smcginnisEven if we bumped it and they discovered they could call that version, it still doesn't mean the admin configured it to allow them to use the new version.16:43
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tommylikehusmcginnis:  ok16:43
smcginnistommylikehu: So I think you can remove the microversioning from there, then we should be good.16:44
tommylikehuwhat's your point here geguileo , you just said yes :)16:44
geguileotommylikehu: aaaaaaand I was wrong   lol16:45
smcginnisHah :)16:45
tommylikehuthen I guess I will remove that:)16:45
smcginnisSean: 1, Gorka: 1000000016:45
geguileoXD16:45
tommylikehulol16:45
smcginnistommylikehu: OK, good for that topic?16:46
lhx_so next topic?16:46
tommylikehuyes16:46
smcginnisThanks.16:46
tommylikehuwhere is jungleboyj16:46
smcginnis#topic Deprecate CG APIs16:46
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smcginnisxyang2:16:46
smcginnistommylikehu: He had to run. You're all stuck with me again! :D16:47
xyang2we talked deprecating CG APIs in Queens16:47
e0nesmcginnis: I thought we already did it16:47
xyang2so now it is time.  does everyone agree?16:47
e0ne+1 from me16:47
smcginnisxyang2: Right, aren't they already deprecated? Do you mean removal?16:47
xyang2we just add a deprecation message in CG API calls?  We can't remove the support for CG APIs very soon though, because Horizon has it16:48
xyang2they are not deprecated yet16:48
xyang2we said we want to deprecate in Queens16:48
smcginnisxyang2: Oh, OK. Then yeah, +1 from me. Let's get that started so we can eventually remove them.16:48
e0nexyang2: AFAIK, horizon implemented it only in Pike or it will be in Queens16:48
smcginnisxyang2: Have you spoken to anyone from Horizon to make sure they know the plan?16:49
xyang2smcginnis: no16:49
xyang2smcginnis: someone working on horizon was aware of it.  Rich?  I couldn't remember his full name16:49
xyang2hemna: I think it was rich in your old group?16:50
smcginnisxyang2: OK, good. AS long as they are aware of it.16:50
xyang2smcginnis: I probably should ping their PTL about it.  do you know who is the Horizon PTL16:50
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smcginnisAnyone have any objections to deprecation of those APIs?16:50
smcginnisxyang2: I can check, one second.16:50
xyang2e0ne: thanks.  I saw it on my setup16:51
diablo_rojo_phonxyang2: ying_zuo16:51
smcginnisying_zuo16:51
xyang2diablo_rojo_phon: thanks16:51
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Doh!16:51
xyang2smcginnis: you are too slow:)16:51
smcginnisTook me too long to find the tab I already had open. :)16:51
smcginnisxyang2: OK, I don't think there's any objection. I think we should go ahead with deprecation.16:52
smcginnisEspecially considering we have volume group consistent snapshots now.16:52
xyang2smcginnis: we can keep the CG APIs for as long as we need.  they got re-directed to groups api any way16:52
xyang2smcginnis: sure.  thanks16:52
smcginnisxyang2: Yeah, good point.16:52
e0nexyang2: anyway, I could be wrong. I remember horizon meeting with related discussion about month ago16:53
xyang2smcginnis: I do want to remove some of the hacking code to convert a group obj to a cg obj, etc., at some point though16:53
smcginnisI guess it doesn't really matter too much. It will be difficult to actually remove them, but if we can at least point people at the preferred APIs, that would be better.16:53
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smcginnisClean up is good.16:53
smcginnisxyang2: OK, anything else?16:53
e0necan we just say that in microversion X.Y CGs will be removed?16:53
hemnaoh, the CG stuffs16:53
xyang2smcginnis: right now I think there are still a couple of drivers not converted to use the new groups interface16:53
xyang2so if I remove now, they will be broken16:53
hemnayah Richard Hagarty16:54
xyang2hemna: is he still working on horizon?16:54
hemnahe's at IBM now, not working on horizon at all fwiw.16:54
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smcginnisxyang2: Are they in the list of drivers from my patches earlier? :)16:54
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xyang2smcginnis: :) one looks like it.  I'll double check16:54
xyang2smcginnis: so if you remove them all, I have no worries any more:)16:55
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xyang2I think there is a NetApp driver that was going to be deprecated but then brought back.  that one may need this update16:55
smcginnisxyang2: OK, well we can work through that. We should make sure supported ones are migrated to generic volume group support.16:55
xyang2anyone from NetApp here?16:55
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xyang2gouthamr?16:56
tommylikehuerlon:16:56
smcginnis4 minutes.16:56
tommylikehuerlon should be16:56
xyang2bswartz?16:56
erlontommylikehu: still a baby there16:56
xyang2smcginnis: ok, thanks16:56
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:56
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smcginnisAnything else before we wrap up?16:56
xyang2erlon: You work for NetApp now?16:57
erlonxyang2: yeap16:57
xyang2erlon: congrats!16:57
erlonxyang2: there will be some folks from my team joining NetApp16:57
erlonxyang2: thanks16:57
smcginniserlon: Cool16:57
smcginniserlon: Going to the PTG? Or too soon?16:58
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erlonsmcginnis: yeap Im going, tickets are already bought, everything ready16:58
smcginnisAwesome16:58
erlonsmcginnis: Australian visa as well :)16:58
geguileoerlon: fyi netapp's over provisioning is completely broken  };-)16:58
gouthamrxyang2: pong16:58
smcginnisOK, just over a minute. Any last second topics?16:59
bswartzpong16:59
gouthamrxyang2: yes, we'll have to fix the driver that we undeprecated16:59
smcginnisOh sure, now they all show up. :D16:59
gouthamr:P16:59
bswartzsorry I'm here but with high latency16:59
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erlongeguileo: no problem, that will be fixed!16:59
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smcginnisWe can follow up post-meeting.16:59
erlongeguileo: :D16:59
geguileoerlon: nice!!16:59
smcginnisThanks everyone, I think we can wrap it up.16:59
lhx_thanks16:59
e0nesee you in Denver next week16:59
geguileoerlon: I know who to pester about it!!  XD16:59
smcginnis#endmeeting16:59
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep  6 16:59:57 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:59
erlongeguileo: haha17:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-06-16.00.html17:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-06-16.00.txt17:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-06-16.00.log.html17:00
johnsom#startmeeting Octavia17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 17:00:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'17:00
geguileoerlon: I wasn't really kidding  XD17:00
johnsomHi folks17:00
JudeCo/17:00
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johnsomI will give a minute for the stragglers to show up17:01
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johnsomJudeC Are you joining us in Denver?17:01
johnsomI don't see you on the etherpad17:01
JudeCI do not think so :(17:01
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johnsomBummer, ok17:01
johnsom#topic Announcements17:02
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johnsomPTG is next week in Denver.  Many of us are going so might be quiet here next week.17:02
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-queens17:02
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johnsomI have started an agenda on the etherpad to give us some guidance.17:02
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johnsomThere is still time to add topics if we missed anything.17:03
johnsomAlong those lines, next week's IRC meeting is cancelled as we will be distracted with the PTG.17:03
johnsomAny other announcements today?17:03
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johnsom#topic StoryBoard17:04
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johnsomSo we were approached in Pike about moving to StoryBoard from Launchpad for our bug/project tracking.17:05
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johnsomI postponed that migration until Queens due to all of the work we were doing in Pike.17:05
xgerman_o/17:05
johnsomBTW, the Pike release is out:17:05
johnsom#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-announce/2017-August/002598.html17:05
johnsomWe got a lot done.17:05
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johnsomAnyway, StoryBoard.  Those discussions have started again and we are on board to migrate soon.17:06
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johnsomThere are some notes about migrating here:17:06
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496439/17:06
johnsomAnd a video about StoryBoard here:17:06
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/videos/boston-2017/storyboard-101-survival-guide-to-the-great-migration17:07
johnsomThe how-to-use is a little later in the video17:07
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johnsomThe StoryBoard team did a test migration last night that was successful, so we have a green light.17:07
johnsomBasically what this means for us is we will be managing planning/bugs in StoryBoard instead of Launchpad17:08
johnsom#link https://storyboard.openstack.org17:08
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johnsomAny questions/comments?17:08
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johnsomWell, ok then.  I will work with the StoryBoard team to do the migration.  We will also have support at the PTG if we need it.17:10
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johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review17:10
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jniesz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453005/17:12
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johnsomI posted a patch that sets up octavia-dashboard to use the new Octavia v2 API.  Happy dance there.17:12
johnsomI also posted a patch that addressed an issue German reported where we were masking neutron errors from the user which made it hard to know what was wrong (IP already in use in this case).17:12
xgerman_yeah17:12
jnieszwould be good to get some feedback prior to PTG discussion17:12
johnsomThough that needs some more work.17:13
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johnsomYES!  Please make another review pass on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453005/17:13
johnsomThis week.  I really want to have a plan of attack for Act/Act by the end of the PTG.  Patches too.17:14
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johnsomI was also looking at this bug:17:14
xgerman_sounds good17:14
johnsom#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/171516617:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1715166 in octavia "Members cannot reach its own vip address in L2 mode" [Medium,Incomplete]17:14
johnsomI need to take another test pass at it based on the comments added.17:14
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johnsomjniesz Any other updates on the Act/Act work?  I see some BGP patch updates for the amp image, is there any other progress in flight?17:16
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jnieszyes, we are working on the elements17:16
jnieszand some work on the devstack testing17:17
jnieszusing Quagga17:17
johnsomOk, let us know if you run into issues or blockers.17:17
xgerman_nice17:17
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johnsomI have also opened ~26 bugs against the current dashboard implementation.  If anyone has django/angular folks we can point them at the list.17:18
johnsomhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=dashboard17:18
m-greeneCan we discuss the angular bucket next week?  I’ll have my GUI expert along to attend PTG17:19
johnsomJust trying to track things that could be cleaned up.  I do plan to meet with the horizon folks at the PTG to see if we can get some help.17:19
m-greeneHe is going start engaging on upstream technical issues17:19
johnsomm-greene Yes, definitely.  I didn't see you folks on the list so wasn't sure if you were going to make it.17:19
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m-greeneI just added 3 of us to etherpad17:20
xgerman_sweet -17:20
xgerman_isn’t CO your home state?17:20
m-greeneyep17:20
johnsomHa, ok great.  Yeah, there is a section on Monday with the horizon team, then an Octavia section on Thursday.17:20
m-greeneJeff will be at the Monday session17:21
johnsomm-greene Would love to have your input on the provider drivers as well.  I really want a spec by the end of the PTG17:21
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m-greeneyeah- there are at least items on etherpad I expect us to engage17:21
m-greene4 items17:21
johnsomPlease let me know if we need to move these around time wise.  We have flexibility, I was just trying to get an agenda down.17:22
johnsomCool.17:22
johnsomAny other updates / progress to discuss?17:22
johnsom#topic Open Discussion17:23
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johnsomOk, other topics today?17:23
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johnsomSo quiet.  Everyone is looking forward to the PTG...  Grin17:24
xgerman_yep, will be epic17:24
jnieszyes, looking forward to meeting everybody17:24
johnsomI will be trying to keep our status up to date on the PTG site:17:25
johnsom#link http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html17:25
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johnsomSo if you want to know the current topic or where we are at, that should be the guide17:25
xgerman_most project teams set up some group pn a mobile platform to co-ordinate dinners, etc.17:25
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johnsomWe have used GroupMe in the past.  Is there interest in that again?17:26
jniesz+117:27
johnsomAlso, I should mention, the mascot is done:17:27
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots17:27
johnsomOk, I will setup a GroupMe group17:28
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johnsomOther topics today?17:29
m-greenerecommendation on crash course for octavia developer workflow?17:30
m-greeneread the contributing docs, or find someone for 30 minutes in person?17:30
johnsomm-greene I have done video conferences for folks.  If you are interested I am happy to do that for your team.  (I really just need to record these....)17:31
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johnsomI would prefer not to use PTG time for that, but we can schedule a session or two after the PTG17:31
m-greeneyep17:31
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johnsomOk, thanks folks.  Looking forward to seeing you all at the PTG!17:32
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johnsom#endmeeting17:32
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
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bh526r#topic Roll Call18:00
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:00
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:00
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bh526rHi Kamil18:00
krenczewskiHi Bin18:00
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jinli#info JinLi18:01
jinliHi18:01
bh526rHi Jin18:01
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bh526r#topic Admin Update18:01
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bh526r#info Bin will attend PTG next week in Denver18:01
bh526r#topic Planning for PoC in OpenStack Summit in Sydney18:02
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bh526rI assume the status is the same as last time?18:02
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krenczewskiFor me - yes18:03
bh526rThank you Kamil18:03
bh526r#info no update. Same status as last week18:03
krenczewskiStill WIP18:03
bh526r#topic Planning for Gluon Queens Release18:03
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bh526r#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Queens18:04
bh526rI listed some tasks I can think of18:04
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bh526r#info The first one is "Refactor Gluon Extended ML2 Plugin into Neutron Service Plugin".18:05
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bh526r#info It is a big task, and tracked by a separate section there18:05
bh526r#info not much details there, but 3 known items18:06
bh526r#info we need to figure out more details18:06
bh526r#info The 2nd item is "Fix hard-coded way of creating default interface when creating a port in gluon/managers/manager_base.py. See Line 113 TO-DO. It should be fixed to support all YAML models"18:06
bh526r#info The 3rd item is "Fix hard-coded way in gluon/backends/backend_base.py, and perhaps other files so that it can parse and support all YAML models at backend, like API generator."18:07
bh526r#info The 4th item is "Investigate and fix the missing "version-id" in "process_message", Line 64 of gluon/shim/main.py, for processing in Shim Layer."18:07
bh526r#info The 5th item is "Fix the CLI "protonclient" known bug as documented in doc/source/usage.rst."18:08
bh526r#info The 6th item is related to etcd, i.e. Use of “etcd” approved by infrastructure team, including (1) upgrade from etcd-v2.3.6 to etcd3 (2) reuse etcd3 that is started when starting devstack (3) alignment with global requirements of infrastructure packages (i.e. python-etcd>=0.4.3, click>=6.6)18:08
bh526rany comments on above items, Jin?18:09
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jinlino, I am reviewing backend code and try to fix these TODO items18:09
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bh526rYou mean Item #3? Great18:10
jinli2 and 318:10
bh526rLet me put your name on item 2 and 318:10
jinliok18:10
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bh526r#info Jin signed up for the 2nd and 3rd item18:11
bh526r#info of course, ithe 7th item is documentation.18:12
bh526r#info addressing sync issue is also a big item. Those are the 8th and 9th item18:13
bh526r#info Devstack integration is the 10th item18:13
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bh526r#info sync issue (8th and 9th) and devstack integration (10th) are on hold, depending on how we will refactor Gluon as Neutron Service Plugin18:15
bh526r#info Item #2 through #7 are independent of Neutron Service Plugin18:15
bh526r#info Then Proton HA is also a big item. But on hold if Gluon is refactored as Neutron Service Plugin18:16
jinliBin, that's all from my side, I need to join another meeting. will sync with you off line.18:16
bh526rSure, thank you Jin18:16
bh526rany other comments from anyone else?18:17
krenczewskiI am good18:17
bh526rThank you Kamil.18:17
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bh526rThat's all from my side.18:18
bh526rIf nothing else, we can adjourn the meeting. Hope that we ca have update regarding PoC18:18
bh526r#info Nothing else. Meeting adjourned18:18
bh526r#endmeeting18:18
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krenczewskiThanks, Bye18:19
bh526rThank you Kamil, have a good night18:19
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krenczewskiHava a good day Bin18:20
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* fungi gets that eerie feeling someone is looking at him19:01
SotK#startmeeting storyboard19:01
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SotKhi folks!19:01
fungihowdy SotK!19:01
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Zarao/19:02
diablo_rojo_phonHello!19:02
Zarasorry I am late :/19:02
Zaraafter giving the reminder, no less19:03
diablo_rojo_phonFashionably so19:03
Zarahaha19:03
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SotKindeed :D19:03
diablo_rojo_phonYou know how to make an entrance ;)19:03
SotK#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda19:03
SotKI updated it to being empty19:03
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SotKbecause I forgot until moments ago19:03
SotK#topic In Progress Work19:03
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SotKSo I did some of the things I said I would, namely tested the branches patch with Mistral again19:05
diablo_rojo_phonAnd that went well?19:05
SotKit did, the branches patch seems good19:05
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diablo_rojo_phonYay!19:06
diablo_rojo_phonFinally!19:06
SotKthere is the charset issue for Mistral (some of their things contain characters which aren't in mysql's utf8 charset so we need to use utf8mb4 instead) though19:06
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diablo_rojo_phonShould be an easy fix? Or no?19:07
fungiwe can take a brief outage to update the encoding server-side if needed19:07
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SotKyeah it should be an easy enough thing to solve19:08
fungii might enlist clarkb's assistance since he's handled that relatively recently for gerrit and somewhat less recently for etherpad19:08
Zaraoh, neat19:08
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SotKexcellent :D19:08
SotKI didn't get round to doing much investigation of the "link to a pre-filled story" thing yet, since half my evenings disappeared19:09
fungithere's a remote possibility we also need to specify the encoding in the dburl, and/or in db connection setup in sb itself19:09
SotKyeah we definitely need to specify it in storyboard, and also update all the old migrations19:09
SotKoh, I also reworked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444615/ to fix the bug Zara spotted19:11
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diablo_rojo_phonCool :) Will re-review later.19:13
SotKthank you :)19:13
SotK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444615/19:13
SotKthe patch for supporting branches when migrating from LP still needs another review too19:15
SotK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437469/19:15
SotKbut that is yours diablo_rojo_phon :)19:15
diablo_rojo_phonZara? :) ^^19:16
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Zarathanks19:17
ZaraI appear to have quite the review queue19:17
ZaraI haven't done much else, I tested the octavia migration and that's about it...19:19
fungispeaking of which19:19
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/501369 Migrate Octavia deliverables to StoryBoard19:20
fungimerged a few moments ago19:20
Zarayay!19:20
fungias soon as manage-projects applies that i'll import their bugs from lp19:20
diablo_rojo_phonWoot woot!19:20
diablo_rojo_phonThanks fungi :)19:20
fungi#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/octavia.html#deliverables Octavia deliverables19:21
SotKnice!19:21
SotKthanks fungi19:21
fungii have the list of deliverables to import from already queued up as soon as i see their project group and empty projects appear in sb19:21
fungiheh, just noticed project groups aren't sorted in the webclient19:23
fungi#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/list OpenStack StoryBoard project groups19:23
fungii guess we'll want to do that eventually, probably not hard, but can wait until the list gets longer19:24
Zarahaha, yeah, I think they are there in order of being added, but not sure19:24
Zaraso they currently tell............... A STORY19:25
SotKiirc they are ordered by ID19:26
SotKwhich is roughly the same as "time created" most likely19:26
SotKyou can click the heading to sort alphabetically for now too19:27
fungioh, hah, i missed that was possible19:27
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Zarait's not super obvious19:29
Zaraistr we decided not to draw too much attention to it since there were vague plans to change how the sorting worked19:29
Zarabut I might be imagining things19:29
SotKI can believe such a thing but don't recall the conversation rn19:30
SotKI suspect we've exhausted the in-progress stuff19:30
SotK#topic Open Discussion19:31
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fungiremember: anyone who wants help with storyboard-related things at the ptg, come to the infra/qa/release/stable/requirements helproom monday and tuesday. we're happy to help!19:34
Zara+219:34
ZaraI will be floating around19:34
* fungi isn't sufficiently buoyant, but will be rolling around instead19:34
ZaraI'll also be around the rest of the week, and can probably be found near the tea19:35
diablo_rojo_phonI'll be running around19:35
fungiyou'll be running the ptg, as i hear it19:36
diablo_rojo_phonA bit :)19:38
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Zaraaw19:40
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Zarathat was cold19:40
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diablo_rojo_phonLol19:41
SotKif nobody has anything else we should finish early19:42
SotKanything?19:42
Zaranothing from me19:42
fungiwe could all head over to #openstack-meeting-3 i guess ;)19:42
fungiseems it's party central19:42
SotK:D19:42
SotKthanks for coming folk!19:43
SotK#endmeeting19:43
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ZaraTHERE WAS NO PARTY19:43
fungithanks for chairing, SotK!19:43
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Zarathanks, SotK!19:43
SotKyw19:43
Zarasorry I was super distracted today :/19:43
SotKs'ok :)19:43
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ekhugen_alt_#startmeeting wos_mentoring20:00
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ekhugen_alt_Hi!  Who’s here for WOO Mentoring?20:00
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Erindisney_Hey everyone! Kendall Nelson is midflight right now so joining on her behalf to talk Sydney!20:06
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ekhugen_alt_Hi Erin!20:08
Erindisney_Hi! Long time no chat :)20:08
ekhugen_alt_I know!  How are you?20:08
Erindisney_Good! Just landed in SF for OpenDev tmrw. You?20:09
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ekhugen_alt_nice!  it’s been rainy and coldish in the northeast, but I guess SF might be like that right now too20:09
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spotzo/20:10
ekhugen_alt_Hi Amy!20:10
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spotzI've email introduced Jessica and Amrith in prep for Sydney20:10
ekhugen_alt_so Erin, Kendall mentioned last week that we might be able to have a speed mentoring session even if we don’t get sponsorship20:11
ekhugen_alt_so are there any ways that it would have to change?  like could it still be an hourlong session over lunch?20:11
Erindisney_Yes! We obviously value this program and even though we didn't get a sponsor this time want to make it work.20:11
ekhugen_alt_that’s awesome of the foundation, thank you!20:12
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Erindisney_I was able to find a room on Monday during lunch. Everyone will need to grab their own lunch from around the corner on their way in.20:12
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Erindisney_But otherwise will be similar set up to what you've done in the past.20:12
ekhugen_alt_oh cool, so a room with like 15-20 round tables, basically?20:13
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Erindisney_Only issue is the room is set up classroom style. Do you think we can make that work?20:13
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Erindisney_it's set for roughly 100 people, but with rows of tables/chairs versus rounds20:14
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ekhugen_alt_are the chairs like bolted in place?  I’m just thinking it would work fine as long as we can turn some chairs around20:14
spotzCan we maneuver so that the mentor is at the end and folks flip chairs so they're on each side of a table?20:14
Erindisney_Chairs will not be bolted, can definitely be moved around20:14
spotzhehe20:14
ekhugen_alt_+1 spotz that’s just waht I was thinking20:14
Erindisney_Absolutely, that's a great idea20:14
ekhugen_alt_what*20:14
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spotzSweet20:16
ekhugen_alt_do you know erin if there’s any AV equipment in there (projector/microphone)?20:16
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ekhugen_alt_Erindisney_^20:20
Erindisney_Hey sorry just got to our Airbnb. There will be projector for sure, let me triple check on mic20:21
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spotzI'll go out on a limb and say if it's set for a classroom yes20:21
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Erindisney_Assume there will be a mic and I'll let you know if not20:22
ekhugen_alt_okay, awesome, I think those are the usual questions about the room20:22
ekhugen_alt_I’ll let amrith know20:22
ekhugen_alt_that’s all the questions I had, Amy, Erin, any others?20:22
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Erindisney_Will he be our main contact onsite or will either of you be joining us? Anything you need from me?20:23
Erindisney_Going to make session live on the schedule later today20:24
Erindisney_Unless you want me to wait so we can include sign up of some kind20:24
ekhugen_alt_Amrith is going to run the session, so he’ll be the main contact20:24
ekhugen_alt_I think it worked well to have a signup where people could say “mentor or mentee”, “career or technical” and put their email for any questions20:25
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Erindisney_We will hold on publishing until someone sends me more info20:27
spotzI'm still holding out hope to be there, but I'll need to pull myself off my talks soon:(20:27
ekhugen_alt_yeah, unfortunately I don’t have funding for Sydney, but I am involved with the Open Mainframe Project and they’re sponsoring a booth and sending some interns20:28
ekhugen_alt_okay, erin, I’ll copy you on the note to amrith and ask if he wants any more info in the singup20:28
spotzAnd I'll put it on the next WoO meeting agenda once I make the etherpad20:31
ekhugen_alt_awesome, thanks!20:31
Erindisney_Cool. Gotta run, hit me up with any questions. Looking forward to it, thanks all!20:31
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ekhugen_alt_thanks so much everyone!  enjoy SF Erin!20:32
ekhugen_alt_#endmeeting20:32
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notmynameswift team meeting time21:00
notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep  6 21:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:00
notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting?21:00
kota_hi21:00
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timburkeo/21:00
mattoliverauo/21:01
joeljwrighto/21:01
rledisezhi o/21:01
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notmynamewelcome21:01
notmynamesomewhat light today, it seems21:02
notmynamebut that's ok21:02
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notmynamemattoliverau: thanks for running the 0700 meeting21:02
acoleshi, sorry, late21:02
notmyname#topic PTG prep21:02
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notmynamepretty much the only agenda item for this week is final prep for next week's PTG in Denver21:02
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notmynamemattoliverau: you had some good links you gave in the last meeting21:03
notmyname#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens21:03
notmyname#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_schedule21:03
notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Queens/Etherpads21:03
notmyname#link http://ptg.openstack.org21:03
* torgomatic is here21:03
notmynameI'd like to make sure the "review before the PTG" sections on each topic on the ptg etherpad is as complete as possible21:04
notmynameops feedback doesn't need one. we're there to listen on that one21:05
notmynamethe swiftclient usability one ...21:05
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notmynameI've got a specific conversation I'd like to discuss from a user21:05
notmynameI'm cleaning it up now in a text document21:05
notmynamehowever, I'm not going to post it publicly since it wasn't a public conversation21:06
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notmynameI'll have it to discuss in denver though21:06
notmynameswiftHML is empty21:06
notmynametdasilva: you're the only one in this channel who's name is on that topic ;-)21:07
notmynametdasilva: and the same for the gnocci driver21:07
notmynametdasilva: if you get a moment, please add something there. or if you talk to the others, please ask them to add something21:08
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notmynamedoes anyone know anything about osprofiler aside from patch 46831621:08
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/468316/ - swift - OSprofiler in OpenStack Swift21:08
notmynameis tovin here in irc?21:08
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notmynamewill he be at the ptg?21:08
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notmyname...and all the other topics at least have something listed! that's great!21:09
kota_actually, it is added by me but i don't know if we could be comming21:09
claygkota_: you don't know if you're coming *next week* !?21:09
notmynamekota_: wait, was that a typo, or you aren't coming?21:09
kota_no no21:09
claygphew :P21:10
kota_i will be there21:10
notmyname:-)21:10
kota_i meant i don't know if tovin could be comming21:10
notmynamegot it, thanks21:10
tdasilvahello, sorry i'm late21:10
tdasilvareading scrollback21:10
kota_sorry, my mistake for English :/21:10
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notmynamekota_: no worries21:11
notmynamekota_: I see you're on the patch. is this something you want to see added into swift?21:11
notmynamethe osprofiler support?21:11
* mattoliverau thinks he had more links then normal lines in the 0700 meeting :p (sorry late reply, toddler troubles) 21:11
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kota_actually, I'm not sure if *Swift users* wants that feature. It looks like similar situation with some *cross projects* work so that I'd like to gather opinions in ptg21:12
notmynamegot it21:12
kota_and currently, I don't have strong opinion to support it21:13
notmynamekota_: if you think there is some additional info we should read other than the patch, can you link it (if you think just the patch is ok, that's fine too)21:13
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notmynamekota_: yes, I think you're right about it being a cross-project thing21:13
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notmynameeveryone, also note that on wednesday at 2:50 we're scheduled for a team picture (like the last ptg)21:14
kota_notmyname: ok21:14
notmynameI remember that a few of you "accidentally" showed up 2 minutes late for the pic and weren't in it ;-)21:14
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acolespro tip :)21:15
mattoliverauDo we all organise to wear the same shirt or colour :p21:15
notmynameI'm bringing new swift shirts to the ptg21:15
mattoliverau\o/21:15
notmynameif you know of other teams' things we should pay attention to (their topics that affect us or interesting things we can help on), please add them to the section at the top of our etherpad21:16
notmynamethat's about all I've got for the PTG. what questions do you have?21:16
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kota_nice, new swift shirts ¥o/21:16
acolesare we still planning on an informal bug triage session?21:17
notmynameyes21:17
notmynamefor anyone attending the PTG on monday and tuesday, we'll find each other and do bug triage21:18
claygwhoot!21:18
acolesnotmyname: ok, that's the info I needed: 'we'll find each other'21:18
claygI'll be near the coffee21:18
notmynamemost people, I think, have my cell phone number21:19
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acolesI'll be near clayg21:19
notmynameotherwise, find clayg near the coffee ;-)21:19
* clayg hugs21:19
notmynameif you don't have it, my cell number is 254-722-332121:19
claygoh snap!?21:19
notmyname(I've already posted it in logged IRC before, so likely not much hard in doing it again)21:19
torgomaticwhat if I do have it?21:19
mattoliverautorgomatic: you delete it or add it again, cell2 cell321:20
claygcan't wait to see everyone next week!21:21
clayghrmm...21:21
* clayg notices the crickets21:21
notmynameacoles is visting SF this week and over lunch teased me about saying, "I'm looking forward to seeing most of you next week"21:21
mattoliverauWho aren't you looking forward to seeing?21:22
mattoliverau:p21:22
notmynamenote, I'm also looking forward to seeing the rest of you. just maybe not next week21:22
kota_lol21:22
notmyname#topic open discussion21:22
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notmynameanything else on the PTG? or anything else?21:22
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notmynameall right then. I think we're done21:23
notmynameI look forward to seeing most of you next week. and the rest of you at a later date.21:23
notmyname;-)21:23
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clayg:D21:23
notmynamethanks for being part of the swift community :-)21:24
mattoliverauLol21:24
notmyname#endmeeting21:24
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notmynameoh, obviously no swift team meeting next week21:24
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