Wednesday, 2017-08-09

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joehuanghello01:02
zhiyuanhi01:02
Yipeihi01:02
joehuang#startmeeting tricircle01:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 01:02:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.01:02
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hejiaweihi01:03
joehuang#topic rollcall01:03
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joehuang#info joehuang01:03
zhiyuan#info zhiyuan01:03
Yipei#info Yipei01:03
hejiawei#info jiawei01:03
stack_#info ronghui01:04
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joehuanghi all01:05
joehuang#topic pike-rc01:05
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joehuanghello, the job of coverage and multi-region test had been converted into voting jobs01:05
joehuangso the gate check test will fail if one of the test has not been passed01:06
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joehuang#info coverage/multi-region test had been converted into voting jobs01:07
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joehuangfor pike-rc is regression test milestone, have you found any bugs?01:08
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joehuangif you found any bugs, please report it in the launchpad01:10
zhiyuanno from my part. the basic l2/l3 networking tests have been covered in the smoke tests01:10
joehuangok, please continue the regression test01:12
joehuang#open discussion01:12
joehuang#topic open discussion01:12
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joehuangtopic to discuss?01:13
zhiyuanabout the PTL election. I remember that if there is only on candidate, we don't need to vote?01:14
zhiyuans/on/one01:14
joehuangyes01:14
joehuangif only one candidate, no voting will be done01:14
zhiyuani see01:14
joehuangonly if there are more than one candidates, then voting is needed01:14
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joehuangthere is one bug reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/tricircle/+bug/170894801:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708948 in Tricircle "'multiregion networking pod create --region-name CentralRegion' is not an openstack command" [Undecided,Invalid]01:15
joehuangbut at last the author found it's invalid01:15
joehuangto zhiyuan, please update the blueprints' status: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle01:16
joehuang#action update the BPs' status01:17
zhiyuanto joe, ok01:17
joehuangif no other topic, we can conclude the meeting earlier :)01:18
RongHui11no for me01:18
Yipeino from me, still trying to add members via neutron lbaas api. i found that neutron client checks whether subnet exists, so trying to use curl01:18
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joehuanggreat, yipei, keep going01:19
joehuangok, thank you for attending the meeting01:20
Yipeiok, got it01:20
joehuang#endmeeting01:20
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joehuangbye01:20
zhiyuanbye01:20
RongHui11bye01:20
Yipeibye01:21
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gongysh@startmeeting tacker04:40
gongysh#startmeeting tacker04:41
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 04:41:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:41
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:41
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YanXing_ano/04:42
tung_doanhi all04:42
dkushwahao/04:42
digao/04:42
tung_doanlong time no see diga :)04:43
gongysh#topic roll call04:43
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YanXing_anHi, diga04:43
phuoc_hi04:43
gongyshYanXing_an, tung_doan , dkushwaha , diga and phuoc_ , welcome04:43
gongysh#topic bp04:43
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digatung_doan: YanXing_an : Hi, yeah, got busy into other things so couldn't give enough time to opensource contribution04:43
gongyshtung_doan, scaling and healing04:43
tung_doangongysh: hi04:44
tung_doangongysh: healing part I am geeting stuck in vim failure (barbican). i will continue code this week04:44
gongyshtung_doan, there is a comment from YanXing_an on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469975/04:44
tung_doanscaling part I am waiting for merging04:45
gongyshYanXing_an, if that is not critical, lets merge it.04:45
YanXing_anThat is already be process in lasted patch set.04:45
tung_doangongysh: I think it should be considered in future04:45
dkushwahagongysh:  Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469975/04:45
tung_doandkushwaha: yep :)04:46
dkushwahagongysh: is it should be merged this time? as it end of pike04:46
gongyshdkushwaha, we can merge the spec04:47
gongysh#topic coding04:47
tung_doangongysh: dkushwaha: YanXing_an: thanks04:47
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dkushwahagongysh: ok, then fine.04:47
gongyshdkushwaha. what is the progress of mistral policy action?04:47
gongyshI have a look at the your patch, but think it is not done according to spec.04:48
dkushwahagongysh: i have submited partial patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486924/04:48
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dkushwahagongysh: i have planned to finish coding before next meeting04:48
gongyshdkushwaha, do it with patch by patch, but with each patch meaning as an independent part.04:49
gongyshand mark it in git commit msg.04:49
gongyshI cannot see your patch plan now in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486924/04:50
gongyshdkushwaha, we should be able to remove the local varble in tacker server to remember the monitors.04:51
dkushwahagongysh: yea, i have break it independent patches.04:51
dkushwahagongysh: firstly i was trying to be executable so i did it in the way as in current  patch04:52
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dkushwahagongysh: i will update it04:52
gongyshok04:52
gongyshthis is an important refactoring before we tag tacker as pike release.04:53
gongyshdkushwaha, could you commit enough patch before next meeting?04:53
dkushwahagongysh: yes, there is a long holiday in japan, so no other office work, i will try for it.04:54
gongyshdkushwaha, ok, thanks04:54
gongyshtung_doan, the healing and scaling part04:54
gongyshtung_doan,  could you finish it next week?04:55
tung_doangongysh: for healing part, I am still coding.. Maybe I can finish around Wednesday nextweek04:56
tung_doanfor scaling part, it is similar to healing part04:56
gongyshtung_doan, I am afraid dkushwaha's work will be conflict with yours.04:57
tung_doantherefore I think coding will do in short time04:57
tung_doangongysh: I already reviewed his code.. i think no conflict is shown04:57
gongyshdkushwaha, I think you can start with respawn policy first.04:58
tung_doangongysh: dkushwaha focuses on ping driver. therefore, no conflict from my side04:59
dkushwahagongysh: ok, it should be fine04:59
tung_doangongysh: +1 for respawning policy first with ping driver04:59
gongysh#topic open discussion04:59
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gongyshdkushwaha, tung_doan , please help to review codes too05:00
gongyshYanXing_an, hi05:00
YanXing_anhi05:00
tung_doangongysh: if barbican url is fixed. can you merge it asap? it will prevent other contributors from coding05:00
dkushwahagongysh: sure05:00
gongyshYanXing_an, please active in reviewing codes next week.05:01
gongyshtung_doan, sure05:01
YanXing_angongysh, sure05:01
gongyshthat is all from my side.05:02
gongyshdo you have any thing to talk about?05:02
phuoc_hi05:02
gongyshphuoc_, hi05:02
phuoc_I and Janki will proposed containerized VNF05:02
dkushwahagongysh: I think you missed to nominate yourself for PTL. Today there were some message regarding same on tacker channel05:02
tung_doandkushwaha: right :)) hahahaha05:03
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phuoc_and PTL who comes from OpenRetriever will join too05:03
phuoc_https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit#05:03
gongyshdkushwaha, I thought the PTL status will go on with two terms by default.05:03
gongyshlet me have a look.05:03
gongyshdkushwaha, thanks.05:04
dkushwahagongysh: :)05:04
phuoc_When we figure all things, I will make spec about it05:04
tung_doangongysh: dkushwaha: YanXing_an: please have a look on cVNFs discussion05:04
gongyshphuoc_, thanks.05:04
tung_doanhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zhJxoMc-_nFop8q2aB2mSjXZ_bjMQq1Ju9_P9ppV_Vo/edit#heading=h.ov81h9z5airk05:04
phuoc_please look at the google and give your comments in this05:05
phuoc_and I can make it better05:05
gongyshphuoc_, have you put it in PTG etherpad?05:06
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gongyshphuoc_, I see it.05:06
phuoc_I've just putted it ^^05:06
gongyshanything else?05:07
gongyshdo you guys have plan to sydney summit?05:07
gongyshok05:08
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dkushwahagongysh: it depend on my company05:09
gongyshlets end meeting. if you have anything, please go to tacker channel05:09
gongyshthanks everyone, lets back to code.05:09
gongyshand do review.05:09
gongysh#endmeeting05:09
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mattoliverau#startmeeting swift07:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 07:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattoliverau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:01
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mattoliverauWelcome, who's here for the Swift meeting?07:01
mattoliverauif anyone :P07:01
mattoliverauAdjenda in the usual place:07:02
mattoliverau#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift07:02
mattoliverauWoo nice turn out!07:02
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mattoliverauWell this will be a quick meeting07:04
mattoliverauI'll run through it by myself so y'all can read the minutes07:04
mattoliverau#topic Next Swift release07:04
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mattoliverauSo the next swift release will be whats shipped with Pike.07:05
mattoliverauSo the deadline is 21st of August07:05
mattoliverauSo for all you playing along at home.. which I guess is all of you, the 21st isn't too long away, so lets make sure we look at priority reviews and keep it updated.07:06
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mattoliverau#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews07:06
mattoliverau#topic Denver PTG07:06
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mattoliverauwe are gathering ideas for the PTG sessions on an etherpad:07:07
mattoliverau#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews07:07
mattoliverauops wrong one07:07
mattoliverau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens07:07
mattoliverauyou should find that in the #openstack-swift channel topic07:08
mattoliverauAdd anything you want to talk about, or if you want to be involved in the discussions.07:08
mattoliverauIf your around on Mon, Tues and want to help with some triaging then put your name down so we know you are interested/available.07:08
mattoliverauAlso I've just found out that Suse is sending me!07:08
mattoliverauso y'all thought you were free from the loud aussie.. but turns out, not so much, mwuhahaha07:09
mattoliverauSpeaking of bug triaging.. if there are no other comments.. :p07:09
mattoliverau#topic Bug triage work07:09
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mattoliverau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list07:09
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mattoliverauFor those interested, but not sure whats going on, read the top of the etherpad.07:10
mattoliverauBut tl;dr is we want to get our bugs in order, we have many, and many are very old.07:10
mattoliverauSo phase 1 is to triage all the "new" bugs.07:10
mattoliverauBugs marked 'new' are not triaged, and there are some old ones there. So first lets triage them (see top of etherpad).07:10
mattoliverauLater we can re-triage other bugs and see if there still relevent07:10
mattoliverauWe plan to talk about bug triage and getting a handle on them etc at PTG.07:10
mattoliverau#topic new contributors now don't have to join the foundation07:11
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mattoliverau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120771.html07:11
mattoliverauFrom now on, you only need to join if you want to or if you want to vote in OpenStack elections. So that now makes it a little easier for new contributors. The account setup instructions have been updated:07:11
mattoliverau#link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup07:11
mattoliverau#topic Open Discussion07:11
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kota_hello07:12
mattoliverauYou can tell this is a place holder cause I'm the only one here :P07:12
mattoliverauoh now it's just kota_ and I!07:12
mattoliveraukota_: hey man.. big turnout07:12
mattoliverauJust running through so there is something in the minutes for people to read in thier own leasure07:12
kota_hello, again07:12
rledisezhi o/07:12
mattoliveraupeople turned up!!07:13
mattoliverauIt's been the quickest meeting ever.. me talking to myself.07:13
mattoliveraujust to recap, which I've already run through, next release of Swift has a deadline of the 21st of August, as it'll be the version in Pike07:14
mattoliverauRemember to look at the Denver PTG etherpad.. and also I'm now coming to denver, so you haven't gotten rid of me :P07:15
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mattoliverauBug triaging is still happening and if you want to help at the PTG then please do07:16
mattoliveraubut you can read all this in the minutes.07:16
mattoliverauAnything else anyone wants to discuss?07:16
mattoliveraukota_ and rledisez? cause we're the only ones here :)07:16
mattoliverauoh and m_kazuhiro too :)07:18
mattoliverauI guess not.07:18
mattoliverau#topic next chairperson07:18
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mattoliverauSeeing as this meeting was really a bust.. I'll do it again next time... you know what they say, second time lucky :)07:18
mattoliverau#agreed mattoliverau will try again! And will chair the next 0700 meeting.. next time for sure07:20
mattoliverauRight.. so..07:20
mattoliverauI guess I'll just wait a bit. If nothing is said we'll just call it.07:20
mattoliverauWell thank you all for continueing to work on Swift.07:22
mattoliverauHaving meetings in the northern hemisphere summer seems to be problematic. Might need to find some new southern hemisphere peeps to get involved in swift :)07:23
mattoliverau#endmeeting07:23
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug  9 07:23:57 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)07:23
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-08-09-07.01.html07:24
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-08-09-07.01.txt07:24
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-08-09-07.01.log.html07:24
rledisezseems it's gonna be a quiet meeting ;)07:24
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kota_so close!07:26
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rledisezI updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472659/ last week end after comments made by acoles and clayg07:26
rledisezit should be ready for merge for pike07:26
mattoliveraurledisez: great, thanks!07:29
kota_rledisez: good to hear, thx07:31
kota_mattoliverau: congrats !07:35
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rledisezmattoliverau: good! will be nice to see you around ;)07:35
mattoliverau+10007:35
mattoliveraurledisez: you can beat me again at pool :P07:35
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kota_lol07:37
kota_just FYI, I'm now onhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/170147207:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1701472 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ring builder can converge dead state in rebalance" [Medium,Confirmed]07:38
kota_I found ring builder is able to do like gathering parts and push them bakc to same devices07:38
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kota_but I'm still not yet completing how i can fix the behavior07:38
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rlediseznot much to say, good job occuping the room ;)07:41
kota_no big issues, right now. thanks man, mattoliverau07:41
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mattoliverauthis wont be getting logged so lets move back into the swift channel :)07:42
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rledisezthx mattoliverau for double chairing07:44
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mattoliverauwell this time round I don't think counts :P07:44
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca14:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 14:02:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'monasca'14:02
kornicao/14:02
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witekhello14:02
joadavishiya14:02
jguHello14:02
harukio/14:02
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rhochmuthso no one has posted any agenda items14:03
Fdaisukeo/14:03
rhochmuthare there any topics to discuss14:03
jguis there a Monasca ptg?14:04
jgudidn't see on the openstack schedule14:04
rhochmuthwe don't have a monasca ptg planned14:04
rhochmuththere weren't a critical mass of folks that could get travel approval14:05
jguokay recall Witek was asking at one time, so wasn't sure14:05
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rhochmuthhowever, there is a mid-cycle that is possible14:05
witekbut we should organize mid-cycle meeting remotely14:05
rhochmuthvia remote conferencing14:05
jgusounds good14:05
rhochmuthare you planning on attending the ptg anyway?14:06
witekany ideas when?14:06
jguif you an witek will be there, sure14:06
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witekI don't think I will get approval14:07
witekbut some things changed, so perhaps14:07
jguhere we just got approval :-)14:08
witekto be honest, I didn't plan to go to Denver14:08
witekalso, Monasca did not book the room for sessions14:08
rhochmuthcorrect14:09
witekbecause there was no interest/need14:09
witekI think it might be too late to organize it now14:09
kornicathat sounds sad :(14:09
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witekso I would suggest to start planning the remote mid-cycle meeting14:10
jgu:-). when will be the mid cycle remote conferencing?14:10
witekwe could do this one week after PTG14:10
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jgusounds good to me14:11
witekpreferred times?14:11
witeklast time we needed two days14:12
witek4 hours on each day14:12
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witekif I recall correctly14:13
jguyes, I remember we started at 7am PST.14:13
witekis it OK for everyone?14:14
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rhochmuthi think tht will work for me14:14
jguworks for me too.14:15
rhochmuthso, what would the topics be?14:15
witekI can think of TSDB14:15
rhochmuththats a good one14:15
jguyes14:16
witekDocker/Helm14:16
rhochmuthok14:16
kornicaEvents ?14:16
jguretention mgmt?14:17
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witekthere is new monasca-aggregator project similar in goals to monasca-transform14:19
joadavisyeah, I'm curious about that ;)14:19
witekshould we  discuss it?14:19
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witekrhochmuth: ^^ you're the author14:20
rhochmuthyes, i'm one of the authors14:21
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rhochmuthi think the landing page describes most of the motification for monasca-aggregator14:21
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kornicaI'd like to know which one is the one monasca should go with...seems like both are about the same thing, aren't they ? will the be any re-eval process for it ?14:22
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rhochmuthmonasca-aggregator14:22
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joadaviswhy?14:23
witekok, I guess it's a hot topic for mid-cycle :)14:24
kornicathat and if that's the case should monasca-transform be retired as in https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#retiring-a-project14:24
joadavis:)14:24
rhochmuthmy high-level summary is monasca-transform has high cpu utilization, memory utilization, has a much more difficult deployment, due to spark14:24
rhochmuthin addition, it is more difficult to add new aggregations, monasca-aggregator has a nice DSL for configuring/modifying aggregation functions14:25
joadavisI'd be curious about the overall monasca services roadmap - mon-trans/mon-aggregat, mon-ceilometer, mon-events...14:26
rhochmuthi think the landing page, https://github.com/monasca/monasca-aggregator, summarizes the main reasons14:26
jguand it's written in go :-)14:26
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kornicathat's an advantage or disadvantage, depends on POV ;-) :D14:27
joadaviswell, that seems like a hinderance to me, as go isn't openstack supported.  But I've invested some time in mon-trans, so I will take a bit of convincing. ;)14:27
kornicajoadavis: well that's because I am asking - there's been some activity recently around mon-transform over review.openstack.org14:28
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kornicaand it kind of odd to have both at the same time14:28
kornicaI acknowledge abvious pros of the monasca-aggregator14:28
joadavis:) I work with Ashwin, and we are looking at continuing work on mon-transform14:29
kornicabut if that's the way to go, as PTL says so, the monasca-transform is a candidate to be retired according to the Openstack guidelines14:29
rhochmuthjoadavis: well, we didn't write monasca-aggregator because we had nothing better to do14:29
rhochmuthas usual the discussion in openstack degraded to language comparisons goland vs python for example, and prove it14:30
rhochmuthsure, you should evaluate monasca-aggregator in that to decide whether monasca-transform is the right direction14:30
witekok, I think I will set up etherpad for mid-cycle agenda and let you decide if you want to discuss it14:31
witekwhich days should we plan?14:31
rhochmuthi know full well of the past performance, utilization and complexity of monasca-transform14:31
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jguany day of that week is good for me14:32
rhochmuthjoadavis: speaking about convincing, i14:32
rhochmuthi'm not very convinced y the cassandra analysis you have put together14:33
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joadavisrhockmuth: I'm sure you do, as one of the developers.  We are still working on Ocata era stuff at the moment, so continuing with what we have makes sense.  But if the overall monasca plan goes another way, we want to keep moving forward.14:33
jgurhochmuth: yes I would like to discuss that :-)14:33
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rhochmuthsorry, meant jgu14:33
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rhochmuthok, we can discuss that at the mid-cycle too14:34
joadavis'sallright, I figured that out. ;)14:34
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jgurhochmuth: can we start the Cassandra discussion earlier if you have feedback already? we have internal project schedule need to decide the tsdb earlier that September.14:35
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jgusorry... *earlier than september*14:36
rhochmuthi'll defer to witek on that question14:37
rhochmuthi think this would take a special session14:37
rhochmuthlike a one hour meeting at least14:37
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witekjgu: I have sent you my questions to the document just today14:38
jguwitek: which email account?14:38
witekI just answered yours14:39
jguah got it14:39
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witekI think it would be good to move the discussion to openstack-dev mailing list, what do you think?14:40
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jguthat sounds good to me to start it on openstack mailing list.14:41
rhochmuthsounds fine to me14:41
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witekwhat bothers me somehow is that you plan to go with Java, which we were about to deprecate14:43
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witekI mean monasca-api and monasca-persister in Java14:44
jguwe started with Java is because that's what is being used today.14:45
jguI'd prefer to write in go for the persister :-).14:46
witeknot because of performance?14:46
jguyes performance -- is that why the persister is in Java today?14:46
witekit's not about the language, it's about doubling maintenance efforts14:46
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jguthe Cassandra driver and client are pretty heavy on multi-threading.14:47
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jguwe do intend to have a python implementation but wasn't thinking to have python as the first and only language implementation. the previous investigation into Cassandra also characterizes the python Cassandra client throughput at about 1/4 TO 1/3 OF java's?14:51
witekor even less14:52
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jguright :-)14:53
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witekwe haven't set the dates for mid-cycle, I will create doodle and send to openstack-dev14:54
witekI will also create etherpad to start planning the agenda14:55
jgubut if aggregator is going to introduce golang, maybe we should reconsider the language choice?14:55
rhochmuththe aggregator is not part of openstack code base14:55
jguah... different than the transform?14:56
rhochmuthcorrect14:56
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rhochmuthnote, golang has been getting some adoption in openstack14:57
rhochmuthnot sure if that changes anything14:57
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witekyes, but introducing 3rd lang to persister isn't probably wise14:58
jguyes an interesting (in a good way) change14:58
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witekbefore we close the meeting14:59
witekI wanted to announce my candidacy for the Project Team Lead15:00
witekhttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/queens/Monasca/witek.txt15:00
rhochmuththx witek15:01
rhochmuthneed to end meeting15:01
rhochmuthplease vote for witek15:01
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rhochmuth#endmeeting15:01
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 16:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
SwansonHi.16:00
tommylikehuhi16:00
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smcginnisping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne16:00
patrickeastHi16:00
bswartzhi16:00
smcginnisabishop sivn16:01
e0nehi16:01
geguileohi! o/16:01
jgriffitho/16:01
xyang1Hi16:01
jungleboyj@!16:01
lhx_hi o/16:01
_pewp_jungleboyj (¬_¬)ノ16:01
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smcginnis#chair jungleboyj16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: jungleboyj smcginnis16:01
diablo_rojo_phonHello :)16:01
smcginnisjungleboyj: Just in case. ^16:01
scottdaciao16:01
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Cool.  Thanks.  :-)16:01
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tommylikehuhi16:02
smcginnisAt ops midcycle, so sorry if I'm not as responsive.16:02
wxy-hi16:02
e0nesmcginnis: do you have any feedback from operators?16:02
smcginnise0ne: Just talking about older documentation so far.16:03
smcginnisI will share notes from what I hear.16:03
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smcginnisAlright, guess we can get going.16:03
smcginnis#topic Announcements16:03
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smcginnisBiggest thing is that the RC deadline is tomorrow.16:04
smcginnisSo we need to make the cut very soon.16:04
smcginnisIf there are any patches that are absolutely critical, please raise them now.16:04
smcginnisAfter RC, only critical bugfixes for the release are allowed.16:04
e0neildikov: do we have any nova-related issues now?16:05
ildikove0ne: no, waiting for the cinderclient release16:06
smcginnisildikov, e0ne: We can get that once the lib freeze is over.16:06
ildikove0ne: manual testing all looks good16:06
ildikovsmcginnis: sounds good, thank you16:06
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e0neildikov: thank you for testing16:07
smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens Planning etherpad for PTG16:07
ildikove0ne: thank you for the fixes! :)16:07
smcginnisWe still need to build up topics for the PTG.16:07
smcginnisWe have three full days allocated for Cinder, Wed-Fri.16:07
smcginnisWe can turn Friday into a hack day or something, but I think we can probably get enough to discuss to really use all days.16:08
smcginnisJust need to identify those topics and get them on the etherpad.16:08
e0nesmcginnis: usually, we've got full agenda about one month before the PTG/Summit16:08
smcginnisAlso, please get your name on that etherpad if you think you are going.16:08
smcginnise0ne: Yeah, I think we were a little short last time though, and we ended up coming up with more topics right before and at the PTG.16:09
jungleboyjWe could spend the whole time working on docs.  :-)16:09
smcginnisWe'll see how it goes I guess.16:09
lhx_smcginnis, every morning and afternoon from Wed to Fri?16:09
smcginnislhx_: Yes, I believe so. I haven't seen an official room schedule, but I think that was the plan.16:10
lhx_thanks :)16:10
lhx_I guess so16:10
diablo_rojo_phonThat's correct smcginnis16:10
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Thanks!16:10
smcginnis#link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-denver-2017-tickets-33219389087 PTG registration16:10
smcginnisPlease make sure you register if you have not done so already.16:10
diablo_rojo_phonFinalizing the schedule early next week.16:10
tommylikehusmcginnis:  do we have any deadline for registration16:11
smcginnisAnd last I heard, the PTG hotel was full, but there are some other close options.16:11
smcginnistommylikehu: Good question. diablo_rojo_phon ?16:11
diablo_rojo_phonThe room block is full, but the hotel still has rooms available for less than 200/night16:11
tommylikehustill not sure whether I can attend16:11
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diablo_rojo_phonI don't think there's an actual deadline for registration16:11
jungleboyj:-(  tommylikehu  You gotta come!16:11
tommylikehujungleboyj:  I do hope that !16:12
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* jungleboyj is crossing my fingers for you16:12
tommylikehujungleboyj:  thanks :)16:13
smcginnisJust one other update/announcement/heads-up. Apparently I wasn't showing up in the list of eligible voters.16:13
* jungleboyj had issues there too.16:14
smcginnisMake sure your preferred email in gerrit matches an email in your openstack profile.16:14
smcginnisAnd that you are a Foundation level member.16:14
smcginnisAnd that you click on any links sent to validate your email address.16:14
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winston-dMay I ask what we are voting for? TC election?16:15
smcginnisThere are 12 hours left for PTL nomination. Unless there are any last minute entries, looks like we won't need an election.16:15
winston-dah, ok.16:15
smcginniswinston-d: As far as this group is concerned, yeah probably just relevant for the upcoming TC election.16:15
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* jungleboyj nominates smcginnis ;-)16:16
e0ne:)16:16
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smcginnis:P16:17
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lhx_++16:17
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:17
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smcginnisAnything else to discuss?16:17
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Just glad you aren't going anywyare.16:18
bswartzderp accidentally unplugged my mouse16:18
jungleboyjbswartz: Don't do that.16:18
smcginnisbswartz: What do you need a mouse for. :D16:18
bswartzthere's one other bugfix to the netapp driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489290/16:18
SwansonWait, is McGinnis running AGAIN?16:18
bswartzit's a 1 character fix to workaround a backend regression16:19
smcginnisSwanson: nope16:19
tommylikehuSwanson:  nope16:19
jungleboyjSwanson:16:19
smcginnistommylikehu: ;)16:19
smcginnisbswartz: I'll take a look.16:19
SwansonOh, jungleptlj16:19
smcginnisCaptianDocBoyPTLJ16:19
SwansonQueens, the get the docs right this time release.16:20
smcginnisNew moto for the release. :)16:20
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  That one is passing CI.16:20
smcginnisOK, I guess that's all for this weeks meeting then.16:20
smcginnisAnything major please raise awareness in the -cinder channel.16:20
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Jeez, my name is getting too complicated.16:21
smcginnisOtherwise we'll get the release requested soonish.16:21
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jungleboyj++16:21
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diablo_rojo_phonSwanson you forgot he's our Oslo guy too16:21
smcginnisThanks everyone.16:21
jungleboyjThe changes that are left for docs are minor and should be able to be backported.16:21
jungleboyjSwanson:  Your home work for next week is to put it all together.16:21
smcginnis#endmeeting16:22
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug  9 16:22:10 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:22
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smcginnisRecord time!16:22
jungleboyj@!16:22
_pewp_jungleboyj (;-_-)ノ16:22
lhx_thanks16:22
tommylikehuthanks16:22
e0nesee you next week16:22
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia17:00
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openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 17:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'17:00
johnsomHi folks17:00
sanfernHi17:00
johnsom#topic Announcements17:01
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johnsomLet's get this meeting rolling17:01
johnsomToday is the last day to submit PTL nominations17:01
johnsom#link https://governance.openstack.org/election/17:01
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rm_worko/17:01
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rm_workah are you successfully nominated?17:02
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johnsomThe PTG is coming up September 11-15th17:02
rm_worklooks like yes, excellent17:02
johnsomrm_work Yes, I am officially on the list17:02
xgerman_o/17:02
rm_workfour more years! four more years!17:02
johnsomHahaha17:02
sanfernexcellent17:02
rm_work#johnsomBestPTL17:02
johnsom#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg17:02
sanfern+117:02
johnsomI have started planning for the PTG17:02
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-queens17:03
johnsomYou guys have such low expectations of a PTL...  grin17:03
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johnsomPlease take a look at that etherpad and add your name to the attendance section.17:03
johnsomAlso feel free to add any topics we should discuss in person17:04
johnsomI will use this to try to set a schedule17:04
johnsomI.e. where will the octavia folks be and what is the topic17:04
johnsomAny questions about PTG?17:04
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johnsomOk, Pike RC1 and stable/pike cut is this week.  I am targeting tomorrow as our release day for that.17:05
johnsomI will be looking through patches to see what we can get in before the cut.17:06
johnsomJust a reminder, we are in feature freeze, but can still merge bug fixes, docs, specs, etc.17:06
johnsomAny other announcements today?17:06
rm_workthere's a couple17:07
rm_workthat we NEED, IMO17:07
johnsomYeah, I agree17:07
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review17:08
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rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/49164317:08
rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/48901517:08
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rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/49113617:08
johnsomI will try to update the priority bug list this morning.  I had a workstation filesystem issue yesterday that slowed me down17:08
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johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Octavia-Pike-priority-patches17:09
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rm_workthose three NEED to be in for Pike IMO17:09
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johnsomOk, will take a look after the meeting.17:09
johnsomI have been working on bugs over the last week.17:10
johnsomPlus starting a debate about OpenStack SDKs....17:10
johnsom#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120618.html17:10
johnsomI think that was a good nudge to the community to put a clear strategy together for SDKs17:11
johnsomMonty seems to be running with it, which is good17:11
johnsomAny other updates?17:12
johnsom#topic Open Discussion17:12
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johnsomOther topics for this week?17:12
johnsomOh, if you missed it, another cloud provider has deployed Octavia....17:13
johnsom#link https://vexxhost.com/blog/introducing-cloud-load-balancers/17:13
johnsomSo, good stuff there17:14
johnsomWell, if there are no more topics this week, we can go back to reviews, etc.17:14
xgerman_k17:14
johnsomThanks folks!17:15
rm_work:)17:15
johnsom#endmeeting17:15
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug  9 18:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'gluon'18:00
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bh526r#topic Roll Call18:00
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:00
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:00
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bh526rHi Kamil18:02
bh526rLooks like only you and I18:02
krenczewskiHi Bin18:02
bh526r#topic Admin Update18:02
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krenczewskiThat is OK18:03
bh526r#info Bin planned to attend PTG in Denver on Sept 11-1518:03
bh526r#topic Pike Status18:03
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bh526r#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Pike18:04
bh526r#info We are on track for Pike release schedule18:04
bh526r#info Essential tasks in above link have been completed18:05
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bh526r#info Outstanding tasks include integration with Keystone, RBAC and related authorization code in Gluon plugin code, and documentation for Pike18:06
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bh526r#info The items on hold need to be addressed at large when considering closer integration with Neutron. They will be considered as a whole solution for Neutron integration, e.g. service plugin approach18:07
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jinli#info JinLi18:07
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bh526r#info Thus those on hold will be considered for Queens or later release18:08
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bh526r#info Regarding remaining outstanding items, e.g. Keystone and RBAC, for Pike release, there are 4 outstanding patches to address:18:08
bh526r#info Patch 1: Gluon object-level authorization18:09
bh526r#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482752/18:09
bh526r#info Patch 2: Policies in yaml18:10
bh526r#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486254/18:10
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bh526r#info Jin is working on those 2 patches, considering alignment with what Keystone and the rest of community is doing.18:11
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bh526r#info Patch 3 is Improve README, which an improvement of README doc18:11
bh526r#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490690/18:11
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bh526r#info It has been reviewed and got +118:12
bh526rI suggest to approve it and merge it.18:12
bh526rAny other opinion?18:12
krenczewskiI am OK with that :-)18:13
bh526rThank you Kamil.18:14
bh526rSo it is approved18:14
bh526r#info Bin suggested to approve it. Group agreed. Bin will take action to approve and merge it.18:14
bh526r#info Patch 4 is a work-in-progress (WIP): Resolve warnings in Sphinx documentation18:15
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bh526r#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491544/18:16
bh526r#info It is still a work in progress, and there have been reviews and comments, and updates of patchset.18:17
bh526r#info Team will continue to work on Patch 1, 2 and 4 to complete as soon as possible.18:17
bh526rAny other update?18:17
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bh526r#topic AOB18:20
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krenczewskiBin, Sukhdev told me that he planned a meeting with you on Monday18:20
krenczewskiI've asked him about that, but hi didn't respond yet18:20
krenczewskiDo you have any information to share?18:20
bh526rYes, Sukhdev and I talked on Monday. We talked about service plugin, PTG etc.18:21
bh526rWe also talked about if we need to have a PoC in OpenStack Summit in Sydney18:21
Sukhdev_krenczewski : I am in the middle of writing a very long email to you :-)18:21
krenczewskiOk, thanks Sukhdev :-)18:21
bh526rThank you Sukhdev.18:22
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bh526rThe PoC is still undecided yet.18:22
Sukhdev_#info - I released the framework for networking-opencontrail so that we can start to migrate some of the gluon work to that framework18:23
bh526rI will communicate with you and Kamil once we have update for whether or not having a PoC in Sydney18:23
krenczewskiGreak Bin, thank you.18:24
bh526rgreat, thank you for the update Sukhdev18:24
krenczewskiRegarding networking-opencontrail, it requires Contrail 4.1 at least18:24
Sukhdev_Right, we are in the middle of upgrading to latest release18:25
bh526rIs 4.1 the latest? Are we using 4.0 for now?18:26
krenczewskiFor last summit I've installed 3.1 on pharos lab18:26
bh526rI see.18:26
bh526rWill there be significant impact when upgrading to 4.1?18:27
Sukhdev_bh526r : in Ocata release Nova introduced a new service called placement service and changed the Nova API18:27
Sukhdev_bh526r : So, the Nova/Neutron api is bit changed18:27
bh526rI see.18:27
krenczewskiFrom my point of view, installing Contrail above 4.0 from sources is a little tricky18:28
krenczewskibut soon I should have reliable way to do this.18:28
Sukhdev_Nova now uses placement service to schedule the placement of VMs - this changes the Nova scheduling18:28
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bh526rI see. Thank you Sukhdev18:29
Sukhdev_There is no change to the Nova/Neutron integration - however, the bring up nova needs to be reworked18:29
bh526rKamil - once you know a reliable way to deploy 4.0/4.1, would you update the documentation too?18:29
Sukhdev_we are working on this now18:29
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krenczewskiOf course Bin18:30
bh526rsounds good. Thank you both18:30
bh526ranything else to share?18:31
krenczewskiI am OK18:32
bh526rSukhdev?18:32
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bh526rSeems we are good.18:33
bh526rIf nothing else to share, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 25 minutes18:33
bh526r#info Meeting adjourned18:33
bh526r#endmeeting18:33
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bh526rThank you everyone, and bye all18:34
krenczewskiThanks, bye18:35
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Zarano storyboard meeting this week, but feel free to chat or ask questions in #storyboard!18:56
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fungithanks for the heads up!19:00
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Zaranp :)19:01
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