Thursday, 2017-07-27

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ekcstime for congress meeting thinrichs ramineni_ masahito00:02
ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:02
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ramineni_ekcs_: hi00:03
ekcstopics here as usual. feel free to add/comment: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics00:03
ekcshi ramineni_ !00:03
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ekcsok let’s get started then.00:06
ekcs#topc announcements00:06
ekcscongress client 1.8 released00:06
ekcsexpected to be the final release for pike.00:06
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ekcsanything else to announce?00:07
ekcsok then moving on.00:08
ekcs#topic congress server, dashboard feature freeze00:08
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ekcspike-3 and feature freeze is due today.00:08
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ekcsI see two patches we could try and merge just in time before feature freeze release.00:09
ekcspassword encryption patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486787/00:09
patchbotpatch 486787 - congress - add encryption to secret datasource config fields00:09
ekcsmonitoring pane refresh patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485455/00:09
patchbotpatch 485455 - congress-dashboard - Primitive auto reload for monitoring pane00:09
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ekcsWe could try to merge this too, but it’s a critical bug fix so not quite as urgent because it could be done after pike-3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486546/00:10
patchbotpatch 486546 - congress-dashboard - Atomic rules to be displayed in UI00:10
ekcsthough it’d be nice to get it in too.00:10
ekcsany other patches to discuss?00:11
ekcsok then on the first patch. password encryption patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486787/00:12
patchbotpatch 486787 - congress - add encryption to secret datasource config fields00:12
ramineni_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T9eH2zaq00:12
ramineni_Sorry some issue with my ircclient .00:13
ekcsdo we think we can get it ready to merge?00:13
ramineni_Yes , I'll have a quick look today and get it merge00:14
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ekcsramineni_: great thanks!00:14
ramineni_Tomorrow is the last day00:14
ramineni_?00:14
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ekcstoday is last day. Thursday. right now it’s 0:15AM Thursday UTC.00:15
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ramineni_Oohk00:15
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ekcsok let’s talk about the next patch then.00:16
ekcsmonitoring pane refresh patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485455/00:16
patchbotpatch 485455 - congress-dashboard - Primitive auto reload for monitoring pane00:16
ekcsI don’t think I’ll be able move the checkbox. sounds simple but when I tried the style gets overridden by other horizon stuff.00:16
ekcswill take some work and some time to figure out.00:17
ekcsdoes it make sense to merge as is?00:17
ramineni_No issue ..it's a minor thing anyway00:17
ramineni_We could merge it and see that later00:17
ramineni_I'll update the vote00:17
ekcsgreat!00:18
ekcsmoving on to the next thing then. masahito: feel free to chime in if you have any thoughts =)00:18
ekcsfixing horizon problem when attempting to display certain rule defined tables: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486546/00:19
patchbotpatch 486546 - congress-dashboard - Atomic rules to be displayed in UI00:19
ekcsI do have one question.00:20
ramineni_Yes00:20
ekcstable_class_attrs[col_name] = tables.Column(00:20
ekcs                    col_name, verbose_name=col_name)00:20
ekcs1. which name gets displayed? col_name or verbose_name?00:20
ramineni_Verbose name00:20
ekcs2. is the col_name used by anything else?00:20
ramineni_No ..for using it for internal referencing we need for that column00:21
masahitoekcs: yes. I did a quick look to encryption patch00:21
ekcsif verbose name is displayed, would it be safer to leave col_name the way it was rather than change it from str(i) to 'Col' + str(i) ?00:22
ekcsI don’t know what “internal references” use it, but just in case it breaks something?00:23
ramineni_Sure .. would do that00:23
ekcsI also wonder if it would look better just to not display any column name. I may play around with keeping verbose_name = “” like before and see what we get. it’s nitpicking I know, but since it’s feature freeze, once we fix the critical bug we don’t get to adjust things haha.00:24
ramineni_I Thought that .. but CLI displays as col0 col1 ..so thought it would be consistent00:25
ekcshmm okay. To me I expect CLI to look techie and use terms like that. where as in horizon it looks much cleaner to not throw in janky looking column names where there isn’t really intended to be any column names.00:27
ekcsthe made up column names really don’t serve any purpose except make it look weird imo.00:28
ekcsanyway just my thought.00:29
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ekcslet me see if Ican generate an example real quick00:30
thinrichsHi all.  Sorry I'm late00:30
ekcshi thinrichs00:30
ramineni_Ok ..I can adjust that .. it's a minimal change .. if you think col names doesn't look good00:31
ekcsok well not a big deal either way.00:33
ekcsmasahito: sorry do you have thoughts on the encryption patch?00:33
masahitoekcs: overall LGTM.00:34
masahitojust a minor question is the get_datasource APIs need to return decrypted config all time?00:35
ekcsmasahito: it probably doesn’t NEED to return decrypted config all the time.00:36
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ekcshold on API let me look at that.00:36
ekcsdoes it hide secret fields by default or show by default?00:36
masahitoIMO, scecret fields by default is good.00:37
masahitoI think it's ok for P-3 but it't good to change the decryption is an option in later.00:37
ekcsI was wondering what current behavior is. because sometimes secret fields are hidden.00:38
ekcsinteresting so looking at the code it seems like datasource get_items hides secret fields. but get_item shows.00:39
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ekcsmasahito: yes I guess we can consider changing API behavior to hide by default and adding a new option to show.00:40
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ekcsbut yes as far as this patch, it’s addressing a separate concern (encryption in DB).00:40
ekcsanything else regarding pike-3 patches to discuss?00:41
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ekcsok then let’s move on.00:43
ekcs#topic doc migration00:44
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ekcsmore of just a quick note to keep everyone aware.00:44
ekcsthere’s been a big migration of openstack docs going on.00:44
ekcshere’s the spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/1300:45
patchbotpatch 472275 - docs-specs - Adds spec for migrating the documentation suite to... (MERGED)00:45
ekcsI think we’ve completed the work on congress client (prioritized because final release is due).00:45
ekcsfair amount remains on congress server that we’ll try to get done before RC1.00:46
ekcsbasically involves pulling any doc maintained outside our repo into our repo, and structuring it correctly according to the structure defined. with the goal of minimizing doc team resources needed to maintain overall doc.00:47
ekcsan thoughts or questions?00:47
ekcsok moving on then.00:49
ekcsoh and the reason it’s important is because our docs would disappear/look mangled on docs.openstack.org if we don’t complete it haha.00:49
ekcs#topic open discussions00:49
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ekcsanything else we’d like to talk about today?00:50
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ekcsBy the way I think Pike will it'll be a nice release for congress.00:53
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ekcsWe'll have a small but helpful collection of library policies for users to import and play with.00:53
ekcsWe also have a new monitoring pane for people to see violations and warnings.00:53
thinrichsThat does sound like a nice release!00:54
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ekcsIn addition to the many less obvious things we’ve fixed/added/refined. like asynchronous firing of actions to reduce latency.00:54
ekcsyea great job all.00:54
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thinrichs+100:56
ekcsStill some work to do between now and RC1. Some I’ll have to fix some testing shortcuts taken to get things into pike-3. There’s also some catch up to do on the documentation on the new features.00:56
ekcs3 more minutes for any other thoughts =)00:57
qiangcaoHi all, great features. I’ll try them. Sorry I come late.00:58
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ekcshi qiangcao !00:58
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thinrichsHi qiangcao!00:58
qiangcaohi ekcs ! thinrichs!00:59
ekcsI should also mention it was a helpful experience for me to try and write semi-realistic policy rules.00:59
ekcsgot to have more of a user experience and could see things from the perspective of a user.00:59
ekcssee what works really well and what some pain points are.01:00
qiangcaoany pointers to the policies rules and docs?01:00
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ekcsanyway I guess it’s time.01:00
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ekcsqiangcao: I’ll chat you on irc.01:00
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qiangcaosure!01:00
ekcsbye all!01:00
ekcs#endmeeting01:00
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thinrichsThanks all!01:01
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qiangcaobye all!01:01
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masahitobye!01:07
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zhenguo#startmeeting mogan02:00
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zhenguoliusheng, wanghao, shaohe_feng, luyao, Xinran, zhangyang: o/02:01
liushengo/02:01
zhangyango/02:01
luyaoo/02:02
zhenguoas always, the agenda:02:02
zhenguo#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting02:02
zhenguolet's jump in02:02
zhenguo#topic announcements and reminders02:02
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zhenguoCommunity voting for submitted talks is now open, please help to vote mogan related ones.02:02
shaohe_fengzhenguo: morning02:03
zhenguoshaohe_feng: o/02:03
wanghao_yeah02:03
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wanghao_zhenguo: you can add our topic to task etherpad.02:04
zhenguowanghao_: we have another etherpad for that02:04
wanghao_zhenguo: sure02:04
wanghao_zhenguo: made by guochangbo?02:05
zhenguowanghao_: seems he created one for chinese talks, lol02:05
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zhenguowanghao_: will try to add ours there02:06
zhenguoWe don't have much time left for Pike, but there's still tons of things to do :(02:07
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zhenguodo you think we should move some tasks to Q?02:07
wanghao_okay02:08
wanghao_zhenguo: agree02:08
zhenguowe need to decide which one should must be done by P, and which can be moved to Q02:08
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zhenguowe can disucss the details on the next topic02:10
zhenguook, not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here?02:10
zhenguoshaohe_feng: do you have something want to share about the OpenStack Days China, hah02:11
shaohe_fengzhenguo: I just want to says the Mogan presentation is well02:12
liushenghah02:12
zhenguoshaohe_feng: lol02:12
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zhenguoContribution into mogan for the last 30 days02:12
zhenguo#link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/3002:12
shaohe_fengso many audience attend the presentation02:13
zhenguobut no feedbak from that :D02:13
wanghao_zhenguo: first we have audience,  and feedback will coming soon. haha02:14
zhenguowanghao_: hope so02:14
shaohe_fengzhenguo: JunWei give a presentation, there's many problem maybe nova can't solve.02:14
shaohe_fengzhenguo: let's Mogan do it.02:14
zhenguoshaohe_feng: yes, sure02:14
shaohe_fengzhenguo: You also attend Junwei's presentation :)02:15
zhenguoshaohe_feng: hah, but I just reviewing mogan patches there :D02:15
zhenguook, let's move on02:16
zhenguo#topic task tracking02:17
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zhenguo#links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard02:17
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shaohe_fengwell. Focus on Mogan growth, a good PTL02:17
zhenguosahohe_feng: lol02:17
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zhenguowanghao_: seems we only got a Essential priorites on our weekly report02:18
wanghao_zhenguo: yeah,  I just put Essential here,  but can add other priorites.02:18
zhenguowanghao_: ok,02:19
zhenguosorry, I forgot to paste my aggregates patches last week02:19
wanghao_haha  that's ok02:19
liushengseems most aggregate paches are ready :)02:20
zhenguohah, without tests :(02:20
zhenguoI will try to finish the aggregates tings this week02:20
liushengcool02:20
wanghao_zhenguo: that could be done soon02:21
zhenguoserver group will basicly based on that02:21
zhenguohah02:21
liushengyes, I am working on adding server goup models and db apis02:21
zhenguoliusheng: thanks02:21
liushengzhenguo: np02:22
zhenguowe can use on SQL for server group by leveraging placement02:22
zhenguoas we will get one aggregate or a list of aggregate to be scheduled02:22
zhenguo*one SQL02:22
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liushengzhenguo: you mean one SQL table ?02:23
zhenguoliusheng: no, I mean one placement API02:23
zhenguoliusheng: hah02:23
liushengzhenguo: hah02:23
liushengzhenguo: that's right02:24
zhenguoliusheng: how's the process of getting rid of nova on tempest02:24
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zhenguoliusheng: like ironic standalone02:25
liushengzhenguo: I just testing locally with my patch, seems most tempest tests can be run02:25
liushengzhenguo: but my evn has a bit problem02:25
liushengzhenguo: will test more02:25
zhenguoliusheng: ok02:25
zhenguoliusheng: maybe need a patch to project-config?02:26
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liushengzhenguo: sure, but I am afraid it may broken gate. hah02:26
zhenguoliusheng: hah02:26
liushengzhenguo: before fully local testing02:27
zhenguoliusheng: ok,02:27
zhenguowanghao_: the adopting servers patches are ready for testing?02:27
wanghao_zhenguo: my patch is ready,  litao's patch is soon I think.02:29
wanghao_he is testing it by himself.02:29
zhenguowanghao_: ok02:29
liushengwanghao_, zhenguo btw, is this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455692/ still valuable ?02:29
patchbotpatch 455692 - mogan - Add tool for adoptting baremetal servers from Nova02:29
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zhenguoliusheng: seems yes02:30
wanghao_liusheng: still valuable I tink02:30
zhenguoas it's a migration tool02:30
liushenghah, ok, will update it02:30
wanghao_liusheng: that's for copy manage data from nova directly02:30
liushengwanghao_: yes02:30
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wanghao_liusheng: but I think it could be later if you didn't have much time for it.02:31
wanghao_liusheng: we can support it next cycle02:31
liushengwanghao_: yes, seems not urgent stuff02:31
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zhenguohah, it's stuck for a long time, but seems it will not conflict with anything02:32
wanghao_yes haha02:32
liushengzhenguo: yes, I am just waiting for wanghao's patch landed, then consider if it is still valueable02:32
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zhenguoliusheng: hah,02:33
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zhenguoliusheng: I still don't get a way to delete node from aggregate02:34
liushengzhenguo: maybe we run too fast than placement :(02:35
zhenguoliusheng: hah02:35
zhenguoliusheng: the PUT there is not really a PUT02:35
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liushengzhenguo: seems only for *add*, right ?02:36
zhenguoliusheng: yes02:36
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zhenguoliusheng: and then if you want to remove aggregates, the only way is to remove t he rp then add aggregate again02:37
liushengzhenguo: :(02:37
zhenguoliusheng: I will try that approach02:37
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liushengzhenguo: hah, I believe placement guys will enrich the related interfaces02:38
zhenguoliusheng: yes, then we can move to new interface, but for now, no other ways02:39
liushengzhenguo: yes..02:39
zhenguoliusheng: also will leave a TODO on Mogan side02:39
liushengzhenguo: sure02:39
zhenguook, so we only have these tasks to be done before Pike?02:40
zhenguoany others?02:40
liushengseems nothing else, btw, please take a look on client patches if you have time :)02:42
zhenguoliusheng: hah, sure02:42
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zhenguook, let's move on02:44
zhenguo#topic open discussion02:44
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zhenguowho's got a thing :)02:44
liushengmay call for voting ? :)02:45
zhenguohah02:45
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zhenguois there someone familiar with QingCloud's bare metal service?02:45
zhenguoseems worth to try that02:46
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liushengzhenguo: I registered an account long time ago, but did try more.02:47
zhenguoliusheng: I also got an account02:48
wanghao_liusheng: need some money for bare metal service I think...02:48
liushenghaa02:48
zhenguoliusheng: if QingCloud also provide VM and BM as seperated services, we can learn someting from it02:48
zhenguowanghao_: sure02:49
zhenguoliusheng: I think it must be seperated services with different API, lol02:49
liushengzhenguo: sure02:49
zhenguook02:50
zhenguoanything else?02:50
zhenguoit's almost time, thansk everyone for joinint the meeting!02:51
zhenguothnaks y'all02:51
zhenguo#endmeeting02:51
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eumel8morning06:59
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ianychoieumel8, morning!07:01
ianychoiAny other one for I18n meeting today?07:01
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eumel8hi ianychoi!07:01
eumel8lots of topics today, I saw07:01
ianychoieumel8, yes haha :)07:02
eumel8let's start - there is more time to work07:03
ianychoieumel8, okay :)07:04
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ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting07:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 27 07:04:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:04
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ianychoi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting Meeting topic today07:04
ianychoi#topic Open reviews07:05
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ianychoi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/i18n+status:open07:05
ianychoiThose are open reviews currently07:05
ianychoieumel8, would you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487206/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486458/ , and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484111/ ?07:05
patchbotpatch 487206 - i18n - Add Zanata id to French team member list07:05
patchbotpatch 486458 - i18n - Rename glossary files to more meaningful names07:05
patchbotpatch 484111 - i18n - Add information on translation of the i18n guide07:05
eumel8thx, for the links. I will do this07:06
ianychoiThank you. Those reviews need one more +2 for approval07:07
eumel8ok07:07
eumel8other reviews are for Korea only :)07:08
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ianychoiThere is one more: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486961/ which needs to investigate in more. Generally it looks fine07:09
patchbotpatch 486961 - i18n - Update URL home-page in documents according to doc...07:09
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ianychoiBut I am not sure whether the URL should be "https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/" or "https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/"07:09
eumel8are there more then latest?07:11
ianychoiNope07:11
ianychoiBut yes - for example https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/ko_KR/ :)07:12
ianychoi"/latest", "/ocata" parts are just for suffixes as defined in Docs team07:12
ianychoiThis is why I am not currently sure whether such prefix needs to be described in setup.cfg or not07:13
ianychoihttps://docs.openstack.org/i18n/ is redirected to https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest07:13
eumel8so there are also /newton, /pike, /ocata ... ?07:13
ianychoiFor other Docs such install-guides, yes07:13
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eumel8then it makes sense with /latest07:14
ianychoiHowever, for I18n doc, since the doc is contributor guide, the doc will not be branched to latest07:14
ianychoieumel8, what I tell now is then.. how about install-guide in openstack-manuals?07:14
ianychoisetup.cfg then can be different with different branches? (e.g., in stable/ocata, the url is /ocata, and in master, the url is .../draft)07:15
ianychoiNote that my current review is just for consistency with other setup.cfg files in different repositories07:16
ianychoiExcept this, I am fine :)07:16
eumel8mhm, but there is only I18n guide and there is already latest version07:16
eumel8ok, will take a look in 48696107:17
ianychoiThank u - this is the result from http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html#proposed-change07:18
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ianychoi"docs.openstack.org/$project-name/latest – build from master"07:19
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ianychoiHmm, my review perspective might include general Docs team migration guide07:20
eumel8mhm, at the moment I wouldn't approve that change. committer needs to explain as you already mentioned07:21
ianychoieumel8, I see. Let's wait for the reply :)07:21
eumel8yes07:21
ianychoi#topic Preparing for Queens PTG and Sydney Summit07:22
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ianychoiThere will be PTG in September at Denver07:22
eumel8I heart from07:23
ianychoiI originally really wanted to go to next PTG but now I think I might be unable to attend to the next PTG07:23
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ianychoiPTG would be so great :)07:24
ianychoiFor me, the first PTG was very nice07:24
eumel8really?07:24
ianychoiYep :)07:24
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eumel8similar to design summit or more?07:25
ianychoiSomething more07:25
eumel8mhmm, interesting07:26
ianychoiFor example, During Boston Summit, we met Horizon team PTL and OpenStackAnsible PTL07:26
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eumel8thats true and it was very helpfull07:27
ianychoiOn February, there were several cross project meetings proposed by me: I18n-Docs, I18n-Horizon-ReleaseMgmt with Horizon plugin development teams, I18n-Infra, and I18n-Infra-OpenStackAnsible07:27
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eumel8we have some new I18n topics to discuss in PTG?07:28
ianychoiIt was very great to discuss in detail with more time07:28
ianychoiWe can propose :)07:29
ianychoiFor example, more on translation checksite07:29
ianychoiHow to automate ATC status without proposing extra-ATC with infra team07:29
ianychoiOne more Zanata upgrade before there is new Wildfly07:29
ianychoiHorizon translation ratio calculation07:30
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eumel8ok, there are really topics. But we have also I18n people there? Or people from zanata?07:32
ianychoiNope we need to figure out who will attend to go to PTG from I18n and Zanata dev. team07:32
ianychoiAnd.. for presentation,07:33
ianychoi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers07:33
ianychoi(Sydney Summit)07:33
ianychoiI searched using "I18n" keyword, and now there are three presentations07:33
ianychoi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/1923907:33
ianychoi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/2000707:34
ianychoi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/2001007:34
ianychoiThe first one looks interesting :) It would be much nice if the proposal is accepted and we meet them07:35
ianychoiAnd since Zanata dev. team lives in Austraila (Brisbane, not Sydney but very near), I really hope that Zanata team's presentation is accepted :)07:36
eumel8that must be needed :)07:36
eumel8you know the guys from the first one?07:37
ianychoiNope07:37
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eumel8hehe, somebody is doing I18n ;)07:38
ianychoi:)07:38
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ianychoi#topic String Freeze periods are really coming07:38
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ianychoiIt is really coming :)07:38
ianychoiI will not run for next PTL and I am now busy, but I would like to announce it through i18n mailing list and language coordinators07:39
ianychoi#topic Progress on translate checksite07:39
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ianychoiThanks a lot for attending last infra team meeting, eumel8 !07:40
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eumel8yes, string freeze - the last magic on the universe and what I have to do as PTL. Maybe we can discuss this later.07:40
ianychoieumel8, +10000 :)07:41
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eumel8infra team meeting was very helpful. I think I have now a plan, a volunteer and a proposal change today.07:41
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ianychoiAha, okay!07:41
eumel8but I'm not 100% sure and there is only a chance that the site is online in 2 weeks07:42
ianychoieumel8, we can do it on the next cycle :)07:42
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eumel8but we're really at the end of the street and I want to push this forward.07:43
ianychoieumel8, I think there are two possible ways: 1) Asking Andy and Rob for helping prepare translate checksite on some infra and 2) Using DevStack for this cycle07:43
eumel8no, I've setup the new interim page with OSA on #link https://i18n.external.otc.telekomcloud.com/07:44
ianychoi1) includes to find and call for volunteers07:44
ianychoiOh then 2) would be "Using OSA for this cycle"07:44
eumel8I can share crendentials on the mailing list07:45
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ianychoieumel8, great and it would be also nice if you upload https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/puppet-translation_checksite07:46
eumel8And I want to write the proposal for the infra team. site name is still translate-checksite.openstack.org?07:46
ianychoiI think it would make more people forward :)07:46
eumel8ok07:47
ianychoieumel8, It was not mentioned I think. i18n-horizon-checksite.openstack.org might be also a good candidate?07:47
eumel8too long for me. I'm over 4007:48
ianychoiHaha07:48
ianychoiThen i18n-checksite.o.o ?07:48
eumel8ok, much better07:49
eumel8then I skip #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276466/07:49
patchbotpatch 276466 - openstack-infra/system-config - Manifest for configuration translation checksite07:49
ianychoiIf we have time, we can do polls through openstack-i18n mailing list with Horizon and OpenStackAnsible team07:49
ianychoiOkay. You can abandon it :)07:50
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ianychoi#topic I18n guide translation support is ready! The only thing remained is for documentation :)07:50
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eumel8I wouldn't wait for discussion on mailing list . People can poll in Gerrit :)07:50
ianychoieumel8, okay :)07:51
ianychoi#link https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/07:51
ianychoiI18n contributor guide now supports translation!07:51
ianychoiCurrently there are Korean and Japanese07:51
eumel8no German version, wtf07:51
ianychoieumel8, plz translate in https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/i18n/master07:52
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ianychoi>=75% (per messages) will automatically show by Gerrit interaction07:52
ianychoiOh German is currently 51.67% (per words)! Great!07:53
eumel8I have translated over 40% but there was no time the last days. Maybe at the weekend07:53
eumel8yes, still 11 pages left07:53
eumel8or 907:53
ianychoieumel8, great - thanks a lot for your translation contribution07:53
eumel8you're welcome07:53
ianychoiThe only remaining thing for such support is Documentation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484111/07:54
patchbotpatch 484111 - i18n - Add information on translation of the i18n guide07:54
ianychoieumel8, would you review it? Then I would like to close a blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/i18n-guide-translation07:54
eumel8ok, I have it on my list07:54
ianychoi#topic Open discussions07:55
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ianychoiAnd.. for PTL section in I18n contributor's guide07:55
ianychoiWould you make some time?07:55
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eumel8sure07:56
ianychoiHow about tomorrow?07:56
ianychoiI would be fine on 14:00 UTC tomorrow07:57
eumel8if you vote for https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19034 ;)07:57
eumel8that makes me able to travel to Sydney07:57
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ianychoiOh great - I will do it :) Sure!07:58
ianychoiwith basic description :) haha07:58
eumel8company would support the journey07:58
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ianychoiGreat :)07:58
eumel8Friday 14:00 UTC is fine for me. On #openstack-i18n?07:58
ianychoiYep :)07:59
eumel8great07:59
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ianychoiThanks a lot today meeting07:59
ianychoiSee u tomorrow, eumel8 !07:59
eumel8thx ianychoi07:59
ianychoi#action ianychoi and eumel8 will discuss on "PTL section" in I18n contributor guide at 14:00 UTC on on July 2808:00
ianychoi#endmeeting08:00
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gmann#startmeeting qa08:03
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gmannwho all are here today08:03
andreafo/08:03
blancoso/08:03
zhuflo/08:03
masayukig\p08:04
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andreaf\o_O/08:04
gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_July_27th_2017_.280800_UTC.2908:04
masayukigheh08:04
gmanntoday agenda ^^08:04
* andreaf refurbishing at home may be affecting his mental health08:05
gmann#topic Previous Meeting Action review08:05
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chandankumar\o/08:05
gmannno action item from last meeting08:05
gmann#topic PTG08:05
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg08:06
gmannetherpad for ptg ideas08:06
gmannthanks andreaf08:06
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andreafgmann: TheJulia added a topic in there for grenade/ironic - I think the description is clear enough but let me know if you have questions08:07
gmannplease start writing ideas for PTG discussion08:07
gmannyea08:07
gmannandreaf, Wednesday - Friday: QA sessions ?08:07
andreafgmann: I'll soon add in there a few standard ones about planning & priorities for various projects08:07
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andreafgmann: yeah - though I think discussion session we can probably squeeze in in a day or two08:08
gmannandreaf, QA sessions first 2 days right08:08
chandankumarandreaf: we might host a sprint onsite a ptg to split their plugin in a seperate repo one day.08:08
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chandankumarmight be volunteers from different project can join and do the split together08:09
andreafchandankumar, gmann the first two days will be QA help room08:09
andreafchandankumar, gmann: and my idea was to have a walkthrough session for migrating plugins08:09
gmannandreaf, are we targeting all 56 days? not like previous one. cover all sessions discussion on first 2 days and then code sprint with whi all available08:09
gmann56 -> 5 days08:09
andreafchandankumar: but I like the idea also of people coming and doing their migration with our help08:10
andreafgmann: heh 56 sounded a bit too long :P08:10
gmannheh:)08:10
andreafgmann: yeah so Monday Tuesday is help room, so no QA team internal discussions / sessions08:11
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chandankumarandreaf: added one more point to tempest plugin split walkthrough08:11
andreafgmann: Wed and maybe Thursday QA team sessions08:11
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andreafgmann: the rest sprint08:11
gmannandreaf, but if we target last 3 days for sessions etc then it will conflict with other projects sessions08:11
gmannlike nova for me08:11
gmanni thought it will be like atlanta PTG08:11
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chandankumari will be joining tripleo and kolla session if needed, i want to have a topic on how to test tempest in kolla08:12
andreafgmann: well you should have told that ttx when he proposed this planning :)08:12
gmannoh08:12
gmanni missed something on ML08:12
andreafgmann: I'm sure we can find a schedule that works08:12
andreafgmann: would you be attending all of the nova sessions?08:13
gmannandreaf, not all but most of them may be08:13
andreafgmann: uhm ok that might be an issue but I don't think we can address it until we have more concrete details on sessions & co08:13
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gmannhummm08:14
andreafgmann: if there's no alternative we can still put some session in the first two days08:14
andreafthe thing is that also in the 1st two days there'll be conflicts - with all the SIG / WG sessions going on08:15
andreaflike API WG interop WG and others08:15
gmannyea, mostly inter project things08:15
andreafgmann: so we'll have to do a bit of magic with the planning08:15
gmannand QA is in horizontal projects08:15
andreafgmann: once we have a good idea about what we want to discuss as a team we can do a better plan08:16
gmannok08:16
* gmann need to check ML. missed imp one seems08:16
gmannanyways let's move. ll check the details08:17
gmannall, add your ideas in this etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg08:18
andreafgmann: tbh no planning will be perfect - I think ttx proposal is quite reasonable08:18
gmann#topic Gate Stability08:18
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gmannandreaf, yea but i did not know horizontal and vertical things changed08:18
gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-gate-issue-categotisation08:19
gmannseems like no assignee on this except chandankumar08:20
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gmannon thing came on gate for stable branch and grenade testing for cinder mainly where data_utils changes broke them08:20
gmannwe reverted that and i sent mail also about fixing their stable branches08:21
gmannand pushed many of the stable branches fix08:21
gmann#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/120086.html08:21
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gmanni mentioned about 1 month time to fix08:22
gmanncinder fix is already merged08:22
gmanni hope 1 month time is enough08:22
masayukiggmann: thanks, do you need volunteers?08:23
gmannmasayukig, for review mainly. projects has to merge their submitted patches08:23
gmannand same thing going to happen with this also #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486830/08:24
patchbotpatch 486830 - tempest - Remove deprecated test.idempotent_id decorator08:24
masayukiggmann: ok, feel free to ping me for that reviews.08:24
gmannwe have pushed fixed on all plugin on master branch08:24
gmannmasayukig, those are on tempest plugin side08:24
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masayukiggmann: yeah,08:25
gmannbut not sure how to address stable branches fixes08:25
andreafgmann: we're getting quite close to having a good surface of stable interfaces, hopefully this won't be so much of a problem in the future08:25
masayukiggmann: but I think it's better than nothing :)08:25
gmannmasayukig, thanks.  list is in ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/120086.html08:25
gmannandreaf, hope so but for test.idempotent_id same issue will come for stable branches08:26
masayukiggmann: ok, I put them on my list08:26
gmannwill ML information work? i do not think plugins care or read that :)08:26
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gmannqa team fixing by ourself on master branch, only thing they have to do is cherry pick if they want08:27
andreafgmann: if we tag the project in the email I think it's good - it doesn't hurt to go into the IRC channel and ping folks directly as well though08:27
gmannbut that did not happen for data_utils with 5 month time period08:27
gmannandreaf, humm. ok08:27
andreafgmann: yeah we probably waited a bit too long there - what's your proposal otherwise?08:28
gmannandreaf, i do not have any other, i think we can do that as max.08:28
gmannwe donot want to break gate even its issue on plugin side08:29
gmanni was thinking , i can backport fix for test.idempotent_id also and ping project on ML or IRC about merge if needed08:30
gmannand when we remove test.idempotent_id and anyone break we do not revert and ask their stable branch patch to merge08:30
gmannis it ok?08:30
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gmannandreaf, or you want like we did for scenario manger, keep posting to pending projects08:32
gmannand remove only once all are done08:32
andreafgmann: sounds like a good plan - only I think we need to advertise it to the ML08:33
andreafgmann: how many plugins will be affected you think?08:33
andreafgmann: for scenario it was a bit different since we wanted to do a lot of changes to scenarios (which we didn't yet) and the idea was to decouple as much as possible08:34
gmannandreaf, number might be large. need to check where all we merged08:34
gmannandreaf, +1 for ML advertising etc08:34
gmann#action gmann to send ML for upcoming removal of deprecated interfaces and its affect on stable branches08:35
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gmannanything else on gate things ?08:36
gmann#topic Specs Reviews08:36
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gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z08:36
andreafno topic Tempest today?08:37
gmanni started review on HA spec #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/08:37
patchbotpatch 443504 - qa-specs - Added spec for high availability testing08:37
andreafnever mind - I'd like reviews and comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable08:37
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable08:37
gmanncoming :)08:37
gmannas discussed in last meeting, we will have 2 spec for HA 1. for idea, 1. arch08:38
andreafgmann: great we need to review specs before the PTG so that we are prepared to talk about them there if needed08:38
gmannandreaf, yea08:38
andreafI haven't done that yet though08:38
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gmanni will concentrate on next week as feature freeze on other projects today08:39
gmann#topic Tempest08:39
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* andreaf just realises we were talking about spec reviews not critical reviews :S08:39
gmannandreaf, go head now08:39
andreafSo we have the patches for credential providers merged now, which is great thanks all for the good work on that08:40
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable08:40
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andreafThere are a few more patches to be done to finish the work of making test.py stable08:41
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487482/08:41
patchbotpatch 487482 - tempest - Mark credentials_factory stable for plugins08:41
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486165/08:41
patchbotpatch 486165 - tempest - Fix verify config API version checks08:41
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484384/1608:41
patchbotpatch 484384 - tempest - Only set clients when service/api is available08:41
andreafand more to come08:41
gmannandreaf, thanks. nice work08:41
andreafthe last one I wanted to have comments on - since it may be controversial - but I think it's for the best08:42
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gmannsure08:42
andreafthe idea is to only set the client aliases in the Manager object if a service / api version is available08:42
gmannsure i will check tomorrow08:42
andreafwhich means that if a test forgets to declare a service as a dependency or if it relies on an outdated version we will know08:42
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gmannandreaf, i added few comments on etherpad for stable test module - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-test-module-stable08:43
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andreafthe patch breaks one of the puppet jobs because of murano though but since murano is installed from release I don't think we have any alternative other than break that and fix it later08:44
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gmannok08:44
gmannbut will they break before tempest release08:45
andreafgmann: thanks for the comments08:45
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andreafgmann: I don't like having to make clients.py stable, but I see no alternative - not doing that would require a large amount of work on both tempest and plugins08:45
andreafand no-one as the time to do that - and I really want this work to be finished by end of Pike08:46
andreafso we can start queens with stable interfaces done and thinking about something else08:46
gmannandreaf, yea, that is huge work08:46
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andreafgmann: we might still do it over time and end up deprecating clients.py08:46
andreafgmann: but I would not bet on that08:46
gmannandreaf, +1 for that. we are doing lot of work for stable interface things and fixing plugin08:47
gmannok08:47
gmannlet's move next. time is less.08:47
gmannBug Triage08:47
gmannmasayukig, your turn this week08:47
gmanngo ahead08:47
masayukigyeah,08:47
gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report08:48
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masayukiggmann: thanks08:48
gmannandreaf, sorry for moving further in case i stopped you writing more08:48
masayukignow, the number of new bugs is 3. Not so bad count08:48
andreafit's ok08:48
gmannmasayukig, nice, thanks08:48
andreafbut you missed the #topic command08:49
gmannandreaf, its under tempest only :)08:49
masayukigAnd I actually didn't do that much for that.. :-p08:49
gmannmasayukig, any key bug or something08:49
andreafgmann: ah right - sorry08:49
masayukiggmann: I don't see that so far.08:49
gmannok08:50
masayukigBut high importance bugs are still 708:50
gmannnext week it is mkopec08:50
gmann#topic Patrole08:50
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gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole08:50
gmannblancos, anything to bring up08:51
blancosgmann Nothing at the moment08:51
gmannok08:51
gmannanyone else want to discuss  on patrole ?08:51
gmann#topic Critical Reviews08:52
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gmannany more critical reviews other than andreaf mentioned about stable cred one08:52
andreafnot really critical but nice to have I think08:54
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352292/08:54
patchbotpatch 352292 - tempest - Try to register all service clients08:54
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andreafbetter error handling for service client registration from plugins08:54
gmannok08:54
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gmannandreaf, any plugin moved to new way of service client registration ?08:55
gmannlet's discus under open08:55
gmann#topic Open Discussion08:55
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andreafgmann: manila folks are looking into it08:55
gmannnice08:55
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andreafbut I hope to advertise that a bit as well during the PTG as part of the migration to a dedicated repo08:55
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gmannandreaf, +1 nice idea08:56
chandankumar+108:56
andreafI propose a hands-on session on that for Sydney as well (writing a plugin that depends on multiple plugins)08:56
masayukig++08:56
gmanncool08:56
masayukig(for both)08:56
chandankumartaking neutron case would be interesting08:57
zhuflcool08:57
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andreafthe tricky bit for service clients from plugins is that they are not marked as stable interfaces like tempest ones08:57
chandankumarneutron have lots of dependent plugins08:57
andreafbut I also think once they work nicely they are not likely to change either08:57
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gmannhumm, hope so08:57
gmann2 min left, anything else to bring up08:58
chandankumarnothing from my side08:58
masayukignope08:58
andreafI mentioned in the last meeting that I'm considering office hours08:58
andreafas alternative to meetings08:58
gmannok08:59
andreafbut I have investigate further into that08:59
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andreafand also I'd like to hear opinion from everyone08:59
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andreafjust something to think about until next meeting :)08:59
masayukignot bad idea08:59
chandankumargood idea08:59
gmannandreaf, did not get completely, you mean more early ?08:59
gmannlet's move to qa channel.09:00
gmannthanks all09:00
gmann#endmeeting09:00
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mriedem#startmeeting nova14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 27 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:00
dansmitho/14:00
bauzas\o14:00
edleafe\o14:00
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mriedemok let's get started14:01
efriedo/14:01
mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova14:01
mriedem#topic release news14:01
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cdento-14:01
mriedem#link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule14:01
mriedem#info July 27 (today!!!) is feature freeze, final python-novaclient release, pike-3 milestone14:02
mriedemi'll be posting the final release request for python-novaclient after the meeting14:02
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mriedemthe pike-3 tag is going to be held up on getting the claims in the scheduler patch merged14:02
mriedem#info Blueprints: 65 targeted, 64 approved, 33 completed (+4 from last week)14:03
mriedemoh that's actually old14:03
mriedem#undo14:03
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info Blueprints: 65 targeted, 64 approved, 33 completed (+4 from last week)14:03
jaypipeso/14:03
mriedem#info Blueprints: 62 targeted, 61 approved, 44 completed (+11 from last week)14:04
mriedemso things are winding down14:04
mriedem#link Pike feature freeze blueprint tracker etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-feature-freeze-status14:04
mriedemany questions about the release?14:04
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mriedemalright moving on14:05
* gibi lurks14:05
mriedem#topic bugs14:05
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mriedemno critical bugs14:05
mriedem#info 59 new untriaged bugs (down 64 from last week - thanks sdague and others for helping with bug triage)14:05
mriedem#info Starting to tag bugs for pike-rc-potential: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=pike-rc-potential14:05
mriedemgate status is pretty ok for nova changes14:06
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mriedemthe functional test craziness seems to have dropped off a bit14:06
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mriedemwhich is maybe due to the 401 auth middleware hack, and the wsgi intercept stuff14:06
mriedemthanks cdent for helping with that14:07
mriedem#link Trying to fix the Ironic CI jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487458/14:07
patchbotpatch 487458 - ironic - Don't use multicell setup for any ironic jobs14:07
mriedem^ looks like it's finally passing14:07
cdentthere’s another wsgi intercept change up, for osapi, but I assume we’ll want to wait on that one?14:07
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mriedemcdent: seems we can wait for now14:07
bauzaswe have the placementfixture since a while, so I'm a bit surprised it could be hitting races now14:07
bauzasbut anyway14:08
mriedembauzas: the placement fixture wasn't used in the functional tests globally until <2 weeks ago14:08
mriedemwhen it was added to the IntegratedHelpers mixin14:08
mriedemwhich is the base mixin for like 90% of functional tests14:08
mriedemanywho14:08
bauzasthat's correct, only a few functional tests wereusing it14:08
mriedem#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days14:09
bauzasanywho14:09
mriedemi don't have any news on 3rd party ci14:09
mriedemquestions/comments about bugs?14:09
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mriedem#topic reminders14:09
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mriedem#link Consider signing up for the Queens PTG which is the week of September 11 in Denver, CO, USA: https://www.openstack.org/ptg14:09
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mriedem#link Queens PTG ideas etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens14:10
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mriedem^ is totally unordered14:10
mriedemi just needed to get some ideas down somewhere14:10
mriedem#info PTL nominations for Queens start next week (July 31 - Aug 9): https://governance.openstack.org/election/14:11
jaypipesmriedem: you might ask cdent to fix that unordered thoughts problem.14:11
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jaypipesmriedem: you running?14:11
cdentque?14:11
mriedemjaypipes: don't put baby in the corner14:11
jaypipescdent: I was alluding to your unit test fixes on that move operation patch ;)14:12
jaypipesmriedem: sorry honey.14:12
* cdent doesn’t do allusions when coughing14:12
mriedemi'll do PTL again for queens if no one else wants it14:12
mriedemif anyone has questions about PTL stuff for queens and want to ask privately, feel free14:13
mriedemmoving on14:13
mriedem#topic stable branch status14:13
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mriedem#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z14:13
mriedem#link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z14:13
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mriedemthere is no real news here, i'll push for stable reviews prior to rc114:13
mriedemsince we do a stable release around then too14:13
bauzasmriedem: no news about a possible EOL for newton ?14:14
mriedemno14:14
bauzascool then14:14
mriedemi think that's a ways off14:14
mriedem2017-10-1114:14
mriedemhttps://releases.openstack.org/14:14
mriedemyeah we have a few months for newton14:14
bauzasoh right, gtk14:14
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bauzasmriedem: thanks14:14
mriedem#topic subteam highlights14:14
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mriedemdansmith: anything you'd like to highlight for cells v2 besides no meeting?14:15
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dansmithjust that we merged the devstack patch,14:15
dansmithand less drama than last time but ironic was still broken and they didn't realize,14:15
dansmithbut I think we've got them on a path to recovery at this point14:15
dansmithwhich is pretty awesome14:15
dansmiththat's about it I think14:15
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mriedema 12 step program to recovering from cells?14:16
dansmithheh14:16
dansmithfrom ironic14:16
mriedem#link cells v2 todos https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-cells-v2-todos14:16
dansmithoh,14:16
dansmithI could highlight my doc patch for critical eyeballs14:16
mriedemyup14:16
mriedemwas just going to do that14:16
dansmith#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487183/14:16
patchbotpatch 487183 - nova - Add some more cellsv2 doc goodness14:16
mriedemalso, cfriesen has a fix up for unshelving with cellsv2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486208/14:17
patchbotpatch 486208 - nova - Ensure we unshelve in the cell the instance is mapped14:17
mriedemi'm +214:17
* jaypipes looks14:17
mriedemok moving on14:17
mriedemedleafe: scheduler?14:17
edleafeScheduler subteam meeting was just a recap of outstanding patches.14:17
edleafeReviews are focused on Jay's claims in the scheduler series, starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487589/14:17
patchbotpatch 487589 - nova - placement: account for move operations in claim14:17
edleafeStill working out the claim workflow for new instance vs. moving an instance14:17
edleafeDecided that the next steps (returning alternate hosts, returning allocation_requests) will wait until Queens.14:17
edleafe"Th-Th-The, Th-Th-The, Th-Th... That's all, folks!"14:17
mriedemok i'm +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487589/ since i was last night, only changes since have been the sorting fixes for the tests14:18
patchbotpatch 487589 - nova - placement: account for move operations in claim14:18
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bauzasI need to see Jenkins first14:18
mriedemwe need to see a good run with the claims in the scheduler change and check the logs to make sure the migration/resize tests are doing ok with it14:18
bauzasyeah that14:18
mriedemalso, gibi is working on a functional test for some of the stuff that is going on in these two changes14:19
cdentgibi++14:19
mriedemto do a resize confirm/revert and make sure allocations are cool both ways14:19
bauzasoh man, s/Jenkins/jobs :)14:19
gibisure14:19
bauzasso used to say J after 5 years of thinking Hudson :)14:20
mriedembut as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483566/ is holding up pike-3, we need re-review on that to make sure we are ok with what's there while the tests run14:20
patchbotpatch 483566 - nova - claim resources in placement API during schedule()14:20
mriedemi think the -1s are handled in the change below14:20
mriedemmoving on14:20
mriedemalex_xu: api?14:20
alex_xuwe talk about the things should be merged before FF14:21
bauzasmriedem: that's why I want to see the logs before removing my -114:21
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mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-no-more-extensions-pike is complete14:21
alex_xu#1 novaclient 2.53, #2 the left patches of no more extension14:21
alex_xuall of those are merged14:21
cdentno more extensions!!!! yay!14:22
mriedemthe wsgi_log_format option deprecation is merged too14:22
sdaguenice job alex_xu14:22
alex_xualso talk about some api doc in the devref should be updated, that will continue after FF14:22
mriedemthe only other thing to do now is update the docs for the api plugins and stable api pages14:22
alex_xumriedem: yea14:22
alex_xusdague: thanks14:23
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mriedemalex_xu: ok is that all?14:23
alex_xualso talk about a bug from Kevin_Zheng14:23
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/48685014:23
patchbotpatch 486850 - nova - Wrong href link returned when providing non-existe...14:23
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alex_xuwe should correct the URL in the version API, sdague also suggestion return 404 for invalid path. Then probably just needs to review the patch14:24
alex_xumriedem: that is all now :)14:24
mriedemthanks14:24
mriedemgibi: notifications?14:24
gibiThe bp additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight is completed for Pike. We will open a follow up bp for Queens.14:24
gibiThe rest of the notification transformation patches also needs to move under a Queens bp.14:25
gibiNothing critical is missing from the current master for Pike from notification perspective.14:25
gibiBut we are still working on some bugs like #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/168486014:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1684860 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Versioned server notifications don't include updated_at" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)14:25
gibiThat is all14:25
mriedemthe fix for ^ is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475276/ and has a +2 from me14:25
patchbotpatch 475276 - nova - Add 'updated_at' field to InstancePayload in notif...14:25
mriedemif someone else can take a look14:25
mriedemmoving on14:25
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mriedemnova/cinder stuff14:26
mriedemthere are 2 changes left14:26
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mriedemthe live migration patch from stvnoyes https://review.openstack.org/46398714:26
patchbotpatch 463987 - nova - update live migration to use v3 cinder api14:26
mriedemwhich has had quite a bit of testing and review already14:26
mriedemand the api change at the end of the series https://review.openstack.org/33028514:26
patchbotpatch 330285 - nova - Implement new attach Cinder flow14:26
mriedemi'm -1 on ^ because there are a bunch of blockdev errors in the logs on that one, so something regressed in the new flow there, and jgriffith is investigating14:27
mriedemi think it's safe to say at least that last one isn't going to make pike at this point14:27
mriedembut i'm hopeful for early queens14:27
mriedem#topic stuck reviews14:28
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mriedemthere was nothing on the agenda, so does someone have a patch they need to mention here?14:28
mriedemok then14:28
mriedem#topic open discussion14:29
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darlandHello everyone, me and my team have written following spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486947/14:29
mriedemthere is one item14:29
patchbotpatch 486947 - nova-specs - SPEC: nova disk quota tracking14:29
darlandso, we are looking for review14:29
sdaguemriedem: did you get any clarity on all the doc urls being 404?14:29
mriedemdarland: one point i'll make regarding timing,14:29
darlandthis spec is about adding quota for root and ephemeral disc storage allocated to VM during boot based on flavor's value14:30
mriedemdarland: today is feature freeze for pike, so most people are focused on that, and will be focused on stabilizing and documenting pike for the rc1 in 2 weeks14:30
mriedemdarland: queens specs likely won't get any attention for a few weeks14:30
mriedemdarland: if anyone from your team is going to be at the PTG you can add it as a topic here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens14:30
darlandthat's is ok14:31
mriedemdansmith: sdague: jaypipes: any obvious historical reasons we haven't tracked disk quota in the past?14:31
sdaguemriedem: nothing that I remember14:31
dansmiththere's no quota on disk?14:31
mriedemno14:31
sdagueother than the horrible inaccuracies around shared storage14:31
jaypipesmriedem: no idea. it's news to me, actually :(14:31
mriedemsdague: same14:31
dansmiththat seems really odd to me14:31
mriedemthe problem being the PhD you need to know how much disk is used and where14:32
mriedembased on the flavor and bfv14:32
sdagueyeh, mostly I think it's just a hard counting problem. The autosizing disks as well.14:32
darlandmriedem: none of us, our team, is going to be at PTG14:32
mriedemdarland: ok14:33
sdaguedarland: who is your team?14:33
mriedemdarland: maybe shop the idea around the operators community too to see if anyone has a need for this as well, or already implemented a solution14:33
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darlandsdague: sberbank dev group14:34
sdaguedarland: cool, thanks14:34
mriedemdarland: there is an upcoming ops meeting,14:34
mriedemmight also be worth trying to get discussion ther14:34
mriedem*there14:34
mriedems/meeting/meetup/14:34
bauzasthere are old traces14:34
bauzashttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-disk-quota-tracking14:34
mriedemhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/mexico-city-openstack-operators-meetup-tickets-3498905219714:35
sdaguehonestly, is it controversial? I feel like the concept is ++14:35
sdagueit's just sorting out the details of making it accurate14:35
bauzasthe fact is, looks like disk quota is more Cinder-ish14:35
bauzasas per the findings Google gives me14:35
sdaguebauzas: that's the issue in the spec. You can do it with cinder, if you make your entire environment bfv for everything14:36
mriedemi don't know if it's controversial, but i also don't know if there was a good reason for not having it years ago14:36
sdaguebut they want it to work with cloudy things14:36
sdaguemriedem: I would not assume there was a good reason14:36
bauzashttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8518/disk-quota-for-projects/ has an answer14:36
bauzasbut not for local disks14:36
bauzasassuming those are cheap, maybe?14:36
sdagueI would just assume we never had reasonable enough storage accounting to make it viable14:37
bauzasprobably yeah14:37
jaypipesdarland: as sberbank is Mirantis' customer, we can work together to discuss it at the PTG (I'll be in Denver)14:37
dansmithI dunno, in the early days,14:37
dansmithstorage accounting was much simpler14:37
dansmithso I'm really surprised we don't have it from the local-only days, and it's just really wrong now14:37
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sdaguepre folsom... I'm not that surprised :)14:38
dansmithum, what?14:38
dansmithI'm saying before bfv and ceph,14:38
dansmithwhen most of the quotas stuff was done,14:38
dansmithaccounting for how much disk you were using was much more straightforward14:38
mriedemok, so it sounds like there are some threads to pull - the mechanics of how to actually do this based on the variables involved has to be hashed out, especially now that we're counting quotas14:38
sdagueyeh, it just looks like quotas were only ever implemented on block devices14:39
sdagueprobably because rax didn't need them for ephemeral14:39
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dansmithI'd expect that disk was never a limiting factor14:39
sdagueyep14:39
dansmithtoo cheap to care14:39
bauzasyup14:39
bauzas(16:36:57) bauzas: assuming those are cheap, maybe?14:39
mriedemok so if there is nothing else i say we get back to it14:40
sdagueyep, so we shouldn't assume there was any good reason. Move forward as ++ on the idea. Details need to be ironed out14:40
sdaguemriedem: docs 404?14:40
mriedemsdague: https://review.openstack.org/48786314:40
patchbotpatch 487863 - openstack-manuals - Update sitemap14:40
sdaguemriedem: will that also put in redirects?14:40
sdaguealso, my browser is crashing trying to open that file14:40
mriedemi'm not sure, but that's what AJaeger said was one thing that needed to be done14:41
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mriedemi expect we'll have to put in redirects14:41
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mriedemi made a note about that in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-cells-v2-todos L514:41
mriedemthis is how suse wins all the LOC championships right? :)14:42
mriedem18K lines of xml14:42
mriedemok anything else?14:42
mriedemalright thanks everyone14:42
mriedem#endmeeting14:42
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e0necould anybody please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441266/? we need it for 'Pike uWSGI goal'15:26
patchbotpatch 441266 - openstack-dev/devstack - Run cinder-api with uWSGI15:26
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e0neoops. wrong chat15:30
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ianw#startmeeting diskimage-builder20:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 27 20:01:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'diskimage_builder'20:01
ianwanyone around?20:01
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ianwok, i will work on the assumption no news is good news20:05
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clarkbI don't really have anything20:06
clarkbseems like things have been quiet since suse builds mostly work now20:06
ianwok, just stamp some things in the logs20:08
ianw#topic Announcements20:08
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ianwAs clarkb mentioned, i think suse is going ok now and working in gate.20:09
ianwF26 is working now too.  one minor issue with selinux setting20:09
ianwleading to 2.7.220:09
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482942/20:10
ianwwe can go ahead with that, and start nodepool builds20:11
ianwi would like to run f26 as python3 testing going forward20:11
ianw#topic Action items from last meeting20:11
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ianw#action ianw to investigate if any old branch jobs use dib on trusty20:12
ianwnot done yet; no pressing need but we should clean up20:12
ianwwill look at as time permits20:13
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ianw#action ianw setup 3rd party ci group20:13
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ianwthat was done, ppc added to it20:13
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ianw#undo20:15
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #action ianw setup 3rd party ci group20:15
ianwok then20:15
ianw#topic Review Review20:15
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ianwI'm not sure there is anything particularly stuck20:16
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/47673220:16
ianwis jamielennox's patch to not use du for size20:17
ianwthat's actually coming into some stuff yolanda and I are looking at for LVM20:17
ianwwhich is why i haven't pushed on that until i fully understand what's happening there20:17
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ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48239620:18
ianwprobably should have been clearer i want the nit fixed, marked that20:18
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/48730420:19
ianwSwitch openSUSE to 42.3 by default20:19
ianwi guess that's fine.  the CI mirrors are in place20:20
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/48257020:20
ianwfedora-minimal to f26 ... i will take on board the notes in there before we merge that20:20
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484541/20:21
ianw"enable some off by default checks"20:21
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ianwi am ambivalent ... will comment.  not clear if this is part of something else20:22
ianw#topic Open Discussion20:24
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ianwprometheanfire says "ianw: I may be tasked with making a coreos ironic image and building it into dib seems like the right choice"20:24
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ianwso if you're googling "coreos" and "diskimage-builder" and read this, reach out20:25
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ianwyolanda (mostly) and I will continue work on LVM support20:26
ianwthere has been some discussion around config file format20:26
ianwi've been trying to get good unit tests, with mocked out steps, before engaging with that too much20:27
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ianwthe config format seems secondary to actually making the right calls to pv/vg/lv[create] underneath in the right order, etc20:27
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ianwi think that's enough then20:34
ianwnext meeting is scheduled for european 15:00 time20:34
ianwaug 1020:34
ianw#endmeeting20:34
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kevinbentonaloha!22:01
mlavalleo/22:01
amotokihi22:01
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kevinbenton#startmeeting neutron_drivers22:01
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armaxihrachys: you broke your chair?22:01
kevinbentonthis week is feature freeze22:02
ihrachysarmax, no, just falling asleep22:02
kevinbentonstarting next week any feature related things that need to merge will have to get an FFE22:02
armaxoh22:02
armaxboooo22:02
kevinbentonexcluding simple things like docs22:02
kevinbentonor additional API tests are always welcome22:03
kevinbentonetc22:03
armaxkevinbenton: how are you planning to handle FFE requests?22:03
ihrachyswhat's the process? email to openstack-dev?22:03
kevinbentonyeah, email to openstack-dev22:03
armaxwell, I used to do it when preparing the postmortem22:04
kevinbentonwho decided before, the ptl?22:04
armaxbut you’re free to do it differently22:04
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kevinbentonlet me think about it and i'll let you know next week22:04
kevinbentonbefore I forget, let's take a quick look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705719 because the patches are ready to go22:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705719 in neutron "[RFE] QinQ network driver" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016)22:05
kevinbenton(well are at least close when i reviewed yesterday)22:05
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ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/170571922:07
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* armax goes back to the discussion we had last week22:07
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ihrachysthe change will break everyone who based their type drivers on SegmentTypeDriver. smth to consider close to the end of the cycle.22:08
ihrachyshttp://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=SegmentTypeDriver&i=nope&files=&repos=22:09
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ihrachysbagpipe in the list22:09
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kevinbentonihrachys: i'm not sure segmenttypedriver changes with the refactor22:09
ihrachysthe argument to __init__ changes from db model to OVO22:10
kevinbentonoooh22:10
ihrachyslook here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483020/3..5/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/helpers.py22:10
kevinbentonthe OVO component22:10
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kevinbentonihrachys: don't we need that in the switch to OVO anyway?22:11
ihrachysit's a good change, just a churn at the end of cycle, that's all I have to say.22:11
kevinbentonihrachys: i suppose we can put in a compatibility shim if we are worried that detects if what is passed in is OVO22:11
ihrachyswe'll need to advertise to consumers; prepare patch for bagpipe at least22:11
ihrachysI asked about that before in the patch, not sure if any of that happened22:11
armaxkevinbenton: in the last meeting you said this driver will be used by the srviov mech driver22:12
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armaxbut I see no link anywhere22:12
kevinbentonarmax: i don't think they have that part up yet22:13
armaxOK, but shouldn’t that be captured somewhere so that we can more meaningfully review the code that’s currently under review?22:13
armaxwhat if we screw up the migration?22:13
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kevinbentonwhat migration?22:13
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armaxthe DB migration22:13
armaxI mean what if we overlook a detail in the model because we don’t have the full picture22:14
kevinbentonso we can't approve the RFE until we see an implementation?22:14
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armaxno22:14
kevinbentoni'm fine blocking from merging this cycle22:14
armaxI didn’t say that22:14
kevinbentonif there is no impl22:15
armaxbut the RFE has nothing22:15
armaxexcept a skinny description22:15
armaxno spec either22:15
kevinbentonisn't that the point of an RFE?22:15
kevinbentondescribe the use case22:15
amotokiRFE itself is a feature request. If it turns out we need more discussion on the direction of the implemention during review, can't we switch to a blueprint?22:16
armaxthe use case mention nothing of SRIOV22:16
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armaxthe RFE’s description is rather inadequate IMO to understand what’s going on22:16
armaxI quote22:17
armaxWe can implement this by first refactoring VLAN's allocation logic and then extending it to handle a second layer of VLAN tagging. Essentially replacing vlan_id with a s_tag:c_tag pair22:17
kevinbentonbecause that's an implementation detail?22:17
armaxthat’s not even supposed to be in tehre22:17
armaxOK, ignore me22:17
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kevinbentondid we lose him?22:17
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armaxit’s not an implementation detail22:18
armaxit’s an important part of the end-to-end solution required for the feature being requested22:18
armaxit helps us understand what documentation is required etc22:18
kevinbentonarmax: put what you want to see on the RFE and we can come back to it next week when he replies22:19
armaxwell, do you first agree with me?22:19
kevinbentontalking about which driver should be supported feels like an implementation detail to me22:19
armaxotherwise I am not gonna waste my time22:20
amotokiagree on armax's point. this is on implementation approach.22:20
armaxbut that defeats the point of the whole RFE process22:20
armaxwhich you’re diluting to making it a rubberstamping process22:20
kevinbentonarmax: no, RFE is IMO a user story thing22:20
armaxif we go straight to review without even looking at the bigger picture22:20
armaxdude, have you read the description of the RFE?22:21
kevinbentoni don't want to have this conversation again22:21
kevinbentonwe can ask what driver the implementation needs to be for on the RFE22:21
kevinbentonand discuss next week22:21
armaxfor what it’s worth22:21
armaxI don’t see why we’re even refactoring at this point22:21
armaxwe might as well better off duplicating allocation logic as of now22:22
armaxas refactoring feels like an early optmization22:22
armaxthat said, I don’t even understand why it’s in the RFE description22:22
armaxI am somewhat concerned taht we’re shortcutting the process and that may backfire spectacurlarly22:23
armaxthat’s all22:23
armaxI am voicing my concern22:23
armaxyou seem like annoyed that I do22:23
armaxso kick me out of the team let’s be done with this farce22:23
kevinbentoni don't like RFE's getting too bogged down with implementation details22:24
kevinbentoni agree that the mention of the refactor should be removed22:24
armaxan RFE should describe a use case22:24
armaxa use case is a description of a step-wise process of interaction between user and system or system to system22:24
armaxit doesn’t have to have implementation details22:25
armaxbut I see no use case there22:25
kevinbentonQinQ encap for isolation of vlans22:25
armaxif you magically see it, then enlighten us, that’s all I am asking22:25
armaxOK, never mind22:25
armaxlet’s move on22:26
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kevinbentonlet's you get out of the 4096 limit22:26
armaxlet’s move on22:26
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kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe22:26
kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160422222:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Triaged]22:27
kevinbentonso at this point, I don't think we have anyone to implement this22:27
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kevinbentonHowever, IIRC we switched to using push/pop vlan in the OVS agent22:28
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kevinbentonso once we have a version with qinq support maybe it will magically work?22:28
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kevinbentoneither way, i think this will just have to go to rfe-deferred22:29
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kevinbentonanyone disagree?22:29
ihrachysgo for it. we can revive.22:30
amotokiI wonder what is the difference between this and QinQ RFE..22:30
mlavalleyes let's postpone22:30
kevinbentonamotoki: QinQ rfe is neutron allocating the inner and outer tags22:30
amotokikevinbenton: ah I see!22:30
kevinbentonthis one is just encapsulating whatever the tenant gives in neutron provided encap22:30
amotokiQinQ as a big range of labels.22:31
kevinbentonyeah22:32
kevinbentonamotoki: this is called QinQ because internally OVS needs the support to double-tag22:32
amotokion the other hand, in this rfe, tenants specify inner tag and neutron assign outer tag.22:32
kevinbentonyep22:32
amotokii totally understand22:32
kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/166963022:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1669630 in neutron "Network RBAC acceptance workflow" [Wishlist,Triaged]22:33
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kevinbentonnot sure what state that should go into22:33
kevinbentonjust postponed until Adrian reaches out with time?22:33
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mlavalleyes22:33
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kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168224722:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1682247 in neutron "Neutron should be able to fetch hostkeys for ports" [Wishlist,Triaged]22:35
kevinbentonmordred: you happen to be around?22:35
kevinbentonI'm thinking we can go to rfe-postponed for now on this one22:35
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mordredkevinbenton: yes - that's fine - it'll be a little while until I can get to that one again22:38
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mlavallehe mentioned a couple of weeks ago that he was contemplating an alternative22:43
mlavalleso if we don't hear from him, it is reasonable to postponoe22:43
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kevinbentonthoughts?22:44
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amotokisounds good to postpone22:45
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clarkbkevinbenton: you missed a couple lines from mlavalle but mlavalle is back so will let them replay for you22:45
* mlavalle got disconnected22:45
kevinbentonoh, my bouncer might have disconnected as well22:45
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mlavalleyeah, there was a lag22:45
clarkbkevinbenton: yes, excess flood22:45
kevinbentoni didn't get anything from anyone since i started blathering22:46
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clarkblast message was which would obviate the need for this spec then disconnect then connect then thoughts?22:46
mlavalleI ended up re-connecting22:46
kevinbentonholy crap!22:46
kevinbentoni wrote a whole story about another spec22:46
kevinbenton:)22:46
kevinbentonone sec22:46
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clarkbkevinbenton: ya whcih you pasted and flooded out22:46
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clarkbkevinbenton: so you'll need to paste a few lines at a time to avoid being kicked22:47
kevinbentonclarkb: i think my bouncer actually had the connection issue and then dumped them all at once22:47
kevinbentonok22:47
kevinbentonhere it comes22:47
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kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168983022:47
ihrachysfreenode was dead for me for a while, I guess it's everyone22:47
kevinbentonSo we got more details on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168983022:47
kevinbentonuse case is that you have multiple tenants on a shared network22:47
kevinbentonand they want to run VRRP between their VMs or some kind of IP sharing mechanism like it22:47
mlavalleihrachys: yeah, it wasn't only you22:47
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kevinbentonso each VM needs to be able to use the shared IP22:47
kevinbentonnormally you would add this to allowed_address_pairs22:48
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kevinbentonbut currently we block that on shared networks because you can add any address you want to allowed_address_pairs, including those of other tenants' ports22:48
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kevinbentonSo this RFE is to provide a mechanism to only allow addresses that are not in use by other tenants22:48
kevinbentonRight now I'm thinking we should just have a separate attribute from allowed address pairs with completely independent API validation/policy22:48
kevinbentonTo avoid overcomplicating the allowed address pairs code22:48
kevinbentonthoughts?22:48
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kevinbenton(end of message) :)22:48
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1689830 in neutron "[RFE] advanced policy for allowed addres pairs" [Wishlist,Triaged]22:49
kevinbentonThis might even be a good time to formalize the notion of a port impersonated by another port22:49
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kevinbentonlike an attribute on the port called 'can_impersonate' which takes a list of other port UUIDs22:50
amotokior we can allow to specify a port to allowed-address-pair of another port.22:50
kevinbentonamotoki: yeah, i think we're suggesting the same thing22:51
kevinbentonby cross referencing another port directly we don't have to worry about stale IPs in allowed address pairs if a tenant deletes the shared port22:51
kevinbentonarmax: how do you feel about the use case now the submitter clarified?22:52
mlavalleand the port specified in allowed address pairs is also owned by the same tenant22:52
kevinbentonmlavalle: right22:52
armaxit’s fine22:52
kevinbentonstandard forcing tenant match unless your an admin22:53
mlavallecorrect22:53
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amotokimlavalle: do you think a port on a different network can be speciifed?22:53
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amotokii am not sure it works well.22:53
kevinbentoni think no22:53
mlavalleme neither22:53
amotokiin a same page22:54
kevinbentonlet me capture this in the RFE and see if that would work for the submitter22:54
amotokii just confirmed what means by "by the same tenant"....22:54
kevinbentonand we can maybe target this for Queens22:54
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kevinbentonamotoki: yeah, logic would be regular user can only setup a port to impersonate another port on the same network with the same tenant22:54
mlavallethat's right22:55
kevinbentonagent-side code and backends will need to be updated to read from this new attribute so Pike is unrealistic22:55
amotokikevinbenton: yes. this simplifies a workflow: currently a user needs to crete a port to reserve IP address and specify the IP to allowed-addres-pair.22:56
mlavalleamotoki: ++22:56
kevinbentonok, i left a comment22:58
mlavallegood22:58
kevinbentonwe can revisit at next meeting22:58
kevinbentonthat's all the time we have22:58
kevinbentonany last minute announcements or anything?22:58
mlavallenot from me?22:58
kevinbentonmlavalle: i'm not sure?22:58
kevinbenton:)22:58
mlavalleI am sure ;-)22:58
kevinbentonok22:58
kevinbentonthanks everyone22:58
mlavalleLOL22:58
mlavalleo/22:58
kevinbenton#endmeeting22:59
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