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| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 01:01:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:02 |
| joehuang | hello | 01:02 |
| RongHui11 | hi | 01:02 |
| zhiyuan | hi | 01:02 |
| joehuang | #topic roll call | 01:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:02 | |
| joehuang | #info joehuang | 01:02 |
| RongHui11 | #info ronghui | 01:02 |
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| dongfeng | #info dongfeng | 01:02 |
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| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 01:03 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 01:03 |
| joehuang | #topic pike-3 release | 01:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pike-3 release (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:03 | |
| joehuang | according to our plan, we'd like to have pike-3 release this Friday | 01:04 |
| joehuang | let's check whether there is risk | 01:04 |
| joehuang | one by one for each feature? | 01:05 |
| zhiyuan | there are two smoke tests(for trunk and service function chaining) waiting to be merged, but I think there's no risk | 01:06 |
| Yipei | load balancing across instances residing in multiple network works, but have two issues | 01:06 |
| joehuang | yes, for smoke test, it could be merged quickly if no bugs found | 01:07 |
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| joehuang | good , yipei, what's the issue | 01:07 |
| Yipei | 1) it breaks bridge network environment | 01:07 |
| Yipei | before adding a member in another region, instances in two regions are pingable | 01:08 |
| Yipei | once an instance is added, they do not | 01:08 |
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| Yipei | once an instance is added as a member, they do not | 01:09 |
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| joehuang | east-west networking doesn't work? | 01:10 |
| Yipei | yes | 01:10 |
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| joehuang | what's your networking topology? | 01:10 |
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| Yipei | the networking topology is created following https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/blob/master/doc/source/multi-pod-installation-devstack.rst | 01:11 |
| Yipei | two instances in subnet1, two in subnet2 | 01:11 |
| Yipei | lb is in region two | 01:11 |
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| joehuang | have you update the code for get_subnet or get_subnets? | 01:12 |
| Yipei | no, that's the second issue, i did use octavia api, instead of neutron-lbaas api | 01:16 |
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| joehuang | ok | 01:16 |
| Yipei | still need to test neutron-lbaas api | 01:16 |
| Yipei | i try to use neutron-lbaas api | 01:17 |
| Yipei | following this doc https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/API_2.0#Add_a_New_Member_to_a_Pool | 01:17 |
| joehuang | I found that the document for net creation should be updated with availability zone | 01:17 |
| joehuang | because currently the default network is not local network | 01:17 |
| joehuang | #info update network creation with availability zone in installation guide to create local network | 01:18 |
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| joehuang | because net1 and net2 are two cross neutron L2 network, I think there may be some issue | 01:19 |
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| joehuang | there is still some check test for QoS patch, this will be in great risk | 01:20 |
| Yipei | should the url be "http://REGION_TWO_IP:9696/lbaas/pools/b23ac8e0-5349-4309-b96a-564c5bd04534/members", if using neutron-lbaas api? | 01:21 |
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| joehuang | if you install lbass in region two. | 01:22 |
| zhiyuan | I reviewed the QoS code yesterday, policy module is imported in central plugin and cause the smoke test failure | 01:22 |
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| joehuang | all patches releated to tricircle client have been merged now | 01:23 |
| dongfeng | 1) doc migration patch is under review. there maybe a risk. 2) job pagination patch is updated just now. it needs review. 3) I will write doc and release note for job. I think it can be merged in time. | 01:24 |
| RongHui11 | yes and we try to fix it and pleased give us some help | 01:24 |
| joehuang | a patch for job pagination support in tricircle client is needed | 01:24 |
| dongfeng | yes | 01:25 |
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| joehuang | for the patch can not land in time, need to ask for exception in mail-list | 01:25 |
| joehuang | only if RFE(request for exception) is approved after discussion, then the feature could be merged in pike | 01:26 |
| joehuang | because pike-3 is feature freeze milestone, after pike-3, usually no big feature should be merged for stability concerns | 01:26 |
| joehuang | I also noticed that QoS not register a blueprint yet | 01:27 |
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| RongHui11 | yes | 01:27 |
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| joehuang | though spec has been approved, it'll be good to register one blueprint for this feature | 01:27 |
| joehuang | and for other features, please update the status of your blueprint | 01:28 |
| RongHui11 | ok | 01:28 |
| joehuang | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle | 01:28 |
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| joehuang | all patches in review queue is here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tricircle | 01:29 |
| joehuang | doc migration should be merged in pike-3 | 01:29 |
| dongfeng | en | 01:30 |
| joehuang | this is community wide task | 01:30 |
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| dongfeng | I update the doc migration patch, but I an not quite famliar with doc | 01:30 |
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| dongfeng | after your review I will make further modification | 01:31 |
| zhiyuan | I notice that the doc test has been passed | 01:31 |
| dongfeng | en | 01:31 |
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| joehuang | you can click the link gate-tricircle-docs-ubuntu-xenial | 01:31 |
| joehuang | to view the result | 01:31 |
| joehuang | the result seems ok | 01:31 |
| dongfeng | :) zhiyuan pointed the problem | 01:32 |
| dongfeng | I fixed last night. | 01:32 |
| joehuang | for example, for the current compilation result : http://docs-draft.openstack.org/49/486849/6/check/gate-tricircle-docs-ubuntu-xenial/50b2845//doc/build/html/ | 01:32 |
| zhiyuan | once a test fails, you can click the link to check the log | 01:32 |
| RongHui11 | zhiyuan, for the QoS test problem, do you have some good way to fix yhis problem | 01:33 |
| dongfeng | to zhiyuan, got it. | 01:33 |
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| zhiyuan | to ronghui, debug is needed. according to the log, central neutron server fails to access "keys" atttribute from a None object | 01:35 |
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| joehuang | #topic pike-rc | 01:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pike-rc (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:36 | |
| zhiyuan | I add the link for log in my previous comment | 01:36 |
| joehuang | ok, let's discuss next milestone, for qos, we can discuss in #openstack-tricircle after the meeting | 01:36 |
| RongHui11 | ok | 01:37 |
| joehuang | according to community schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 01:37 |
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| joehuang | final release of pike is Aug 21 ~ 25 | 01:38 |
| dongfeng | after jul 28, can the tricircleclient and tricircle take new patches? | 01:39 |
| joehuang | I suggest that we have pike-rc (release candidate) on Aug 22, if no critical and high bugs, then this release will be the final release | 01:40 |
| joehuang | otherwise, we may have to quick fix critical and high, and release a new one on Aug.25 | 01:40 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, yes, new patch is ok | 01:40 |
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| joehuang | but big feature is not allowed only if RFE is approved | 01:41 |
| dongfeng | got it~ | 01:41 |
| joehuang | RFE is "request for exception" | 01:41 |
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| zhiyuan | to joe, I think the release time is ok | 01:42 |
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| joehuang | after feature freeze milestone, we have to make the release as stable as much, so after pike-3, regression test and bug fix is the major activities | 01:42 |
| joehuang | so please manually do regression test for your features merged in pike, and fix it ASAP. | 01:43 |
| joehuang | how about the schedule for pike-rc? Aug 22? | 01:44 |
| zhiyuan | or you can write tests for smoke test :) | 01:44 |
| zhiyuan | just put your manual test steps into a yaml file | 01:44 |
| joehuang | good proposal | 01:45 |
| joehuang | we need more coverage for smoke test, and add your test script in yaml file, and make it a part of smoke test | 01:45 |
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| zhiyuan | example like: https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/blob/master/tricircle/tempestplugin/single_gw_topology_test.yaml | 01:46 |
| joehuang | to zhiyuan, do we need a document for how to write smoke test yaml file? | 01:46 |
| zhiyuan | the spec already discuss the schema, do you think it's clear enough? | 01:47 |
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| zhiyuan | https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/blob/master/specs/pike/smoke-test-engine.rst | 01:48 |
| zhiyuan | the link for smoke test spec | 01:48 |
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| joehuang | may someone write a yaml file for smoke test according to the spec to see if it's good enough? | 01:49 |
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| dongfeng | oh, I haven't used it. | 01:50 |
| joehuang | smoke test failure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480326/ | 01:50 |
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| joehuang | is it a random failure in smoke test? | 01:50 |
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| dongfeng | for patch 480326, I only changed one line | 01:51 |
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| dongfeng | It shouldn't fail | 01:51 |
| joehuang | ok, please check the failure after the meeting | 01:52 |
| dongfeng | ok | 01:52 |
| zhiyuan | py35 also fails | 01:52 |
| joehuang | #topic open discussion | 01:52 |
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| joehuang | any other topic? | 01:52 |
| zhiyuan | yes | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | I notice that sometime smoke test fails with async job still running | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | do we need to increase the wait time? | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | currently is 20s * 10 | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | wait 10 times, each 20 seconds | 01:53 |
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| zhiyuan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480326/ fails like this | 01:54 |
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| joehuang | yes, I think so, the waiting time is too short lead to random failure | 01:55 |
| zhiyuan | oh sorry, it's 10s * 10 | 01:55 |
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| zhiyuan | in my trunk patch, I change the time to 20s * 10 | 01:55 |
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| joehuang | ok | 01:56 |
| joehuang | other topic? | 01:57 |
| dongfeng | no for me | 01:57 |
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| Yipei | no from me | 01:58 |
| RongHui11 | no for me | 01:58 |
| joehuang | ok, thank you for attending the meeting | 01:58 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 01:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 01:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 01:58:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-07-26-01.01.html | 01:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-07-26-01.01.txt | 01:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-07-26-01.01.log.html | 01:59 |
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| dongfeng | bye | 01:59 |
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| gongysh | hi | 04:35 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: hi | 04:35 |
| YanXing_an | hi | 04:35 |
| gongysh | tung_doan, welcome | 04:35 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, hi | 04:35 |
| YanXing_an | ha, only three men? | 04:36 |
| gongysh | en | 04:36 |
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| gongysh | how about canceling the meeting? | 04:38 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: I worry that we need to do | 04:38 |
| YanXing_an | +1 | 04:38 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: if possible, we need to re-schedule time for meeting. | 04:38 |
| tung_doan | gongysh: some folks in US time zone cannot join | 04:39 |
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| gongysh | tung_doan, ok, we should think it about. | 04:39 |
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| tung_doan | gongysh: +1 | 04:39 |
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| kota_ | #startmeeting swift | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 07:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kota_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
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| kota_ | Hello | 07:00 |
| kota_ | who's coming swift meeting? | 07:00 |
| mahatic | hello! /me | 07:01 |
| acoles | hi | 07:01 |
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| kota_ | notmyname said he is absent this meeting | 07:02 |
| kota_ | and mkazuhiro is now in summer vacation | 07:02 |
| kota_ | it looks like today may be small team meeting :P | 07:02 |
| mahatic | heh, yeah | 07:03 |
| acoles | it'll still be great :) | 07:03 |
| kota_ | thx | 07:03 |
| mahatic | :) | 07:03 |
| kota_ | meeting wiki was updated | 07:03 |
| kota_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 07:03 |
| kota_ | #topic release schedule | 07:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release schedule (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:03 | |
| kota_ | notmyname notified me for the release schedule | 07:04 |
| kota_ | he is now preparing the new release | 07:04 |
| kota_ | and the important date for the release, swift-client will be in Wed for him and swift release will be in this weekend | 07:04 |
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| kota_ | i'd like to catch up some patches on priority reviews for the release | 07:05 |
| kota_ | the priority reviews are listed in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 07:05 |
| kota_ | as you all known | 07:05 |
| kota_ | does anyone has update for the patches? | 07:06 |
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| * kota_ starting from swift-client | 07:06 | |
| acoles | I have been working a lot on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478416 (multi process reconstructor) and hope to get +2 on that today | 07:06 |
| kota_ | ok, let's start from Swift | 07:06 |
| acoles | hehe sorry! | 07:06 |
| kota_ | thanks acoles | 07:06 |
| acoles | we don't seem to have had any activity on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480 | 07:07 |
| kota_ | acoles: ok and it looks like timburk also is looking the patch? | 07:07 |
| acoles | kota_: yes Tim is working on multi-proc recons too | 07:07 |
| acoles | hopefully we have that covered for reviews | 07:08 |
| kota_ | ok, hope it get merged before cutting the release | 07:08 |
| acoles | yep | 07:08 |
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| kota_ | and I'm on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477000/ | 07:08 |
| mahatic | I'll look at patch 448480 | 07:09 |
| acoles | mahatic: thanks | 07:09 |
| kota_ | timburk already add his +2 and I'm closing to get it to +A. Code looks to be fine to me (thanks acoles) | 07:09 |
| kota_ | and now under the test for 477000 | 07:09 |
| mahatic | it's been sitting there a while and no longer WIP, so seems ready for a review | 07:09 |
| acoles | kota_: thank you! I would love to have that in the release too | 07:09 |
| acoles | if i get some time I will also try to look at 448480 | 07:10 |
| mahatic | acoles: thanks too | 07:10 |
| mahatic | since there is no patchbot :(, " | 07:10 |
| mahatic | DB replicator cleanup" is the title of the patch | 07:10 |
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| kota_ | yup, thanks | 07:10 |
| mahatic | excuse the formatting | 07:10 |
| kota_ | how about priority bugs? | 07:11 |
| acoles | the first patch in list is ready IMHO https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472659/ | 07:12 |
| acoles | I know that is causing rledisez some pain in production | 07:13 |
| kota_ | ok. nice to hear, it's ready for review | 07:13 |
| mahatic | the second one status is "won't fix" on launchpad | 07:13 |
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| mahatic | oh that status is not for Swift I think | 07:14 |
| acoles | mahatic: this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1572719 ? | 07:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1572719 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Client may hold socket open after ChunkWriteTimeout" [High,Confirmed] | 07:14 |
| mahatic | acoles: yeah | 07:14 |
| kota_ | yup, it's for security advisary | 07:14 |
| acoles | OIC | 07:14 |
| kota_ | and the reason seems from "Since the report is already public," | 07:15 |
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| kota_ | looking at the last comment #19 | 07:15 |
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| kota_ | and it looks like no patch was not proposed yet | 07:15 |
| kota_ | for the last item, clayg commented it's related to the second one | 07:17 |
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| kota_ | i.e. bug bug/1568650 is related to bug 1572719 | 07:17 |
| openstack | bug 1572719 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Client may hold socket open after ChunkWriteTimeout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1572719 | 07:17 |
| mattoliverau | o/ sorry I'm late, had to pick up the daughter from her grandparents | 07:17 |
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| kota_ | mattoliverau: welcome :) | 07:17 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: o/ | 07:17 |
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| mahatic | mattoliverau: o/ welcome | 07:18 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: we just ssigned you all the hard work ;) | 07:18 |
| mahatic | :D yeah ;) | 07:18 |
| acoles | assigned* | 07:18 |
| kota_ | congrats mattoliverau ;-) | 07:18 |
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| mattoliverau | Damn | 07:19 |
| mattoliverau | :p | 07:19 |
| kota_ | summarize on the 2 bugs in the list, it seems we want to hear the status to clayg in 2100 meeting. he commented to the lp | 07:19 |
| kota_ | ok, moving onto the swift client | 07:20 |
| kota_ | patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449771/ got merged, nice | 07:20 |
| * acoles has been very bad at doing swiftclient reviews recently :/ | 07:20 | |
| kota_ | thanks joel and pete | 07:20 |
| * kota_ is feeling too :/ | 07:20 | |
| kota_ | one more patch for swift-client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475038/ this already has Tim's +2 | 07:21 |
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| kota_ | hmm... but swift-client release schedule is too close since now. | 07:23 |
| kota_ | this may be just a reminder. | 07:23 |
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| mattoliverau | I'm getting in trouble for working too much on my last week of "holidays" so might be a little light on further reviews and triages before next week. | 07:24 |
| kota_ | does anyone have priority patch for review? | 07:24 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau: ok | 07:24 |
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| kota_ | and proposed changelog for the next swift release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485839/ | 07:24 |
| acoles | kota_: nothing other than what is on the wiki | 07:25 |
| kota_ | ok | 07:25 |
| kota_ | and proposed changelog for swiftclient is here, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485859/ | 07:26 |
| kota_ | k, let's move to the next topic | 07:26 |
| kota_ | #denver-ptg | 07:26 |
| kota_ | no | 07:26 |
| kota_ | #topic denver-ptg | 07:26 |
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| mahatic | kota_: just a question on Swift release | 07:27 |
| kota_ | mahatic: go ahead | 07:27 |
| mahatic | do we have a deadline yet for that? | 07:27 |
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| kota_ | I don't think, it's concrete but basically this release depends on OpenStack schedule | 07:28 |
| mattoliverau | I think notmyname said he wanted by end of week or something.. in an ideal world that is.. unless I'm remembering wrong :p | 07:28 |
| kota_ | it's like Pike-3 so I don't think we could make delay much. | 07:28 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau: kota_ okay, thanks | 07:29 |
| kota_ | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 07:29 |
| acoles | I heard end of week is goal too | 07:29 |
| kota_ | pike-3 milestone is Jul 24 - Jul 28 | 07:29 |
| kota_ | moving back to the ptg | 07:30 |
| mahatic | kota_: acoles ack | 07:31 |
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| kota_ | though i don't think you all not yet register the ptg but the registration is https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ and do it asap if you didn't register yet | 07:31 |
| kota_ | and etherpad for topics is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens | 07:32 |
| kota_ | oh sorry, mahatic. I think I heard you won't be there? | 07:32 |
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| mahatic | yeah :( | 07:32 |
| kota_ | :,( | 07:33 |
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| kota_ | that was just a reminder for ptg. let me move to the next topic if anyone doesn't have questions | 07:34 |
| kota_ | ok, next | 07:34 |
| kota_ | #topic bug-triage-work | 07:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug-triage-work (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:34 | |
| kota_ | it have continued from previous weekly meeting | 07:35 |
| mahatic | I'm guilty of not signing up for that yet, will do that | 07:35 |
| kota_ | however, it doesn't look Christian and Thiago working on that, are here? | 07:36 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: nice work on triage | 07:36 |
| mattoliverau | Thanks :) | 07:36 |
| kota_ | oh. mattoliverau is doing something? | 07:36 |
| mattoliverau | There's and eitherpad, to track, which is easier then the normal LP links | 07:37 |
| acoles | kota_: he's triaged 8 or so bugs :) | 07:37 |
| mahatic | nice! | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | I just started from the bottom of new and started working up ;) | 07:37 |
| kota_ | great! | 07:37 |
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| acoles | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 07:37 |
| mattoliverau | Kota_: don't looked too shocked :p | 07:38 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: ta (/me is on his phone) | 07:38 |
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| kota_ | lol | 07:38 |
| kota_ | and tdasilva and acoles had triaged some bugs in the *new* list | 07:39 |
| kota_ | it looks like | 07:39 |
| acoles | I think the idea is that we now all pick off bugs from the etherpad, and aim to reduce New bugs by categorising or closing | 07:39 |
| acoles | there are some instructions at top of wiki | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah just triage is the first sweep | 07:39 |
| mattoliverau | Get them out of new | 07:40 |
| acoles | yes, that ^^ | 07:40 |
| kota_ | make sense. do it! | 07:40 |
| mahatic | okay | 07:40 |
| kota_ | do we have any deadline for the triage work? | 07:40 |
| mattoliverau | But yeah etherpad explains, and if you have questions ask and we'll make it clearer | 07:41 |
| kota_ | ok | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | Not sure of a deadline.. but I think some people are thinking about doing a triage squash at PTG in the first 2 days of people have nothing else to do | 07:42 |
| mattoliverau | But the sooner we clear it up the better.. but then also continue being better as well ;) | 07:42 |
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| kota_ | mattoliverau: ok, thanks for the info. it seems long-term work but the reducing the number of *new* bugs should be great for us anyway | 07:43 |
| kota_ | thanks | 07:43 |
| kota_ | before moving to open discussion, I'd love to enter the topic | 07:44 |
| kota_ | #topic next-chair | 07:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next-chair (Meeting topic: swift)" | 07:44 | |
| mattoliverau | I'll do it, I think mahatic is *next* but it wasn't long ago she did it :) | 07:44 |
| kota_ | i think we are rotating the chair by alphabetical order... | 07:45 |
| kota_ | ok, thanks mattoliverau! | 07:45 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau: that's be great! :) I was just gonna say that I'd be taking off towards the end of that week, so I'm a bit unsure of being available on 9th | 07:45 |
| mattoliverau | Unless someone else wants too of course ;) | 07:45 |
| mahatic | s/that's/tha'd | 07:45 |
| mahatic | duh | 07:45 |
| mattoliverau | Then that works well :) | 07:45 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau: thanks | 07:45 |
| kota_ | #agreed mattoliverau is the next chair for the next 0700 meeting | 07:45 |
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| acoles | FYI I will be on vacation on 9th | 07:46 |
| acoles | thanks mattoliverau for volunteering | 07:46 |
| kota_ | acoles: enjoy | 07:46 |
| kota_ | #topic open-discussion | 07:46 |
| acoles | kota_: thanks | 07:46 |
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| mattoliverau | So it'll be a quiet one then, that's ok, more time for 007 quotes ;) | 07:46 |
| mahatic | lol, fire away ;) | 07:47 |
| kota_ | Dows anyone has something to bring up? | 07:47 |
| kota_ | we have 13 minutes left | 07:47 |
| kota_ | ;-) | 07:47 |
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| mattoliverau | Seems acoles gets an early breakfast | 07:48 |
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| * kota_ is assuming silence is no one has topic with silence | 07:48 | |
| acoles | mattoliverau: been there, done that :) | 07:48 |
| kota_ | lol | 07:49 |
| kota_ | ok, finish up this meeting. | 07:49 |
| mahatic | kota_: looks like it | 07:49 |
| acoles | kota_: thank you for chairing today! | 07:49 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 07:49 |
| kota_ | thanks for comming and thanks for working a lot | 07:49 |
| mahatic | yeah, thanks kota_ for chairing! | 07:49 |
| kota_ | #endmeeting | 07:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 07:49:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-07.00.html | 07:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-07.00.txt | 07:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-07.00.log.html | 07:49 |
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| lucky_cin | HELLO | 11:21 |
| lucky_cin | anybody, who is currently active | 11:21 |
| lucky_cin | ? | 11:21 |
| lucky_cin | i have a doubt? | 11:22 |
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| rhochmuth1 | #startmeeting monasca | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 14:01:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth1 | o/ | 14:01 |
| witek | hello | 14:01 |
| koji | o/ | 14:01 |
| arturb_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth1 | sorry, was running slightly behind this morning | 14:01 |
| rhochmuth1 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
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| rhochmuth1 | #topic Events API - separate or add to monasca-api? | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Events API - separate or add to monasca-api? (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:02 | |
| witek | that's leftover from last time | 14:03 |
| rhochmuth1 | i still need to discuss with some folks here on this topic | 14:03 |
| rhochmuth1 | i'll try and tee that up today | 14:03 |
| witek | our preference would be to keep it separate, right arturb_ ? | 14:03 |
| arturb_ | yes | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth1 | ohhh, i thought you were more interested in combining it | 14:04 |
| arturb_ | this is the best idea t keep it separate | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth1 | what was the motiivation | 14:04 |
| rhochmuth1 | reasons? | 14:04 |
| witek | I wanted to reuse the persister for events | 14:04 |
| witek | that was the starting point for the discussion | 14:05 |
| arturb_ | I already implemented oslo.policy for events-api | 14:05 |
| rhochmuth1 | if you would like to keep teh events api separate then i don't see a reason that i need to follow-up with folks here | 14:06 |
| rhochmuth1 | that was the original plan anyway | 14:06 |
| rhochmuth1 | the only reason i would need to check would be to make sure that they are OK with a different architecture | 14:06 |
| witek | agreed, I think it's easier to work on it separately | 14:07 |
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| rhochmuth1 | OK, i think we can all agree right now then that the events-api will remain a separate repo | 14:07 |
| rhochmuth1 | approved! | 14:07 |
| arturb_ | +1 | 14:08 |
| rhochmuth1 | i don't get to say that very often these days | 14:08 |
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| rhochmuth1 | +1 | 14:08 |
| witek | we would like to add events persisting to monasca-persister though | 14:08 |
| rhochmuth1 | i was afraid to ask | 14:08 |
| witek | :) | 14:08 |
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| rhochmuth1 | OK, i'll check with team on that issue then | 14:09 |
| witek | ok | 14:09 |
| rhochmuth1 | i don't have any major arguments why that wouldn't be OK | 14:09 |
| arturb_ | there is already a change providing events to persister: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485113/ | 14:09 |
| rhochmuth1 | right | 14:09 |
| rhochmuth1 | thx arturb_ | 14:10 |
| arturb_ | no problem :) | 14:10 |
| rhochmuth1 | i guess we can close on that topic if you believe we are done with it | 14:11 |
| witek | yes, thank you | 14:11 |
| rhochmuth1 | #topic survey | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "survey (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:11 | |
| rhochmuth1 | https://www.openstack.org/user-survey | 14:11 |
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| witek | we would like everyone to forward the info to anyone who uses Monasca in OpenStack | 14:12 |
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| witek | as far as I know it used as input for Project Navigator | 14:13 |
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| rhochmuth1 | hmmm, not sure how to do that | 14:13 |
| rhochmuth1 | how to forward on | 14:13 |
| rhochmuth1 | we have our email list group | 14:13 |
| rhochmuth1 | but that probably isn't very representative | 14:14 |
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| rhochmuth1 | of real users | 14:14 |
| witek | what about Helion folks? | 14:14 |
| rhochmuth1 | hmmm, it might be possible | 14:14 |
| rhochmuth1 | that would result in potentially a lot of users | 14:14 |
| rhochmuth1 | good idea | 14:15 |
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| witek | I guess Stefano Canepa could help | 14:15 |
| witek | sc | 14:15 |
| sc | I'm sending the survey to all the customer I know | 14:15 |
| rhochmuth1 | thx sc | 14:16 |
| witek | cool, thanks | 14:16 |
| sc | even the one that are switch from Helion '( | 14:16 |
| rhochmuth1 | sc: just got your email with the monasca stickers. thx for sending, the team liked them. | 14:16 |
| rhochmuth1 | sc: which one's are switching from helion, and are they moving to suse? | 14:17 |
| rhochmuth1 | or something else? | 14:17 |
| sc | rhochmuth1: it took a while to get there | 14:17 |
| rhochmuth1 | maybe that is confidential | 14:17 |
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| sc | rhochmuth1: SUSE and RH | 14:18 |
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| rhochmuth1 | thx | 14:18 |
| sc | rhochmuth1: but at least 2 of them asked to have monasca on RH | 14:18 |
| rhochmuth1 | sc: that's good news | 14:19 |
| sc | I'm studing different ways to deploy (I have lots of code to look at thanks to witek and his colleagues :-) ) | 14:19 |
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| witek | yes, we have ansible roles for RedHat here https://gitlab.com/monasca-installer | 14:21 |
| witek | but it was not maintained lately | 14:21 |
| witek | also, it's just a mirror of private repos and submodule references do not work, so manual cloning is necessary | 14:22 |
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| witek | I guess, we can move on | 14:24 |
| rhochmuth1 | sure | 14:26 |
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| rhochmuth1 | #topic Vote for presentations in Sydney | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vote for presentations in Sydney (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:26 | |
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| rhochmuth1 | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers/ | 14:26 |
| witek | we have many Monasca sessions proposed | 14:27 |
| witek | everyone wants Australia trip :) | 14:27 |
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| rhochmuth1 | hmm, looks like some intersting sessions | 14:27 |
| witek | yes, some are really interesting | 14:28 |
| rhochmuth1 | yeah, nice to see some names i've never heard of before | 14:29 |
| rhochmuth1 | if we could only get them to come to our weekly meetings | 14:29 |
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| rhochmuth1 | and start becoming more involved with development | 14:29 |
| sc | rhochmuth1: you are invite to this one https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers/#/19672 ;-) | 14:29 |
| rhochmuth1 | sc: thanks | 14:30 |
| rhochmuth1 | i know those folks | 14:30 |
| witek | oh no | 14:30 |
| witek | :) | 14:31 |
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| rhochmuth1 | #topic Release dates | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release dates (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:32 | |
| rhochmuth1 | so, i'm guessing that we are on-track | 14:32 |
| witek | I have tagged python-monascaclient for final release | 14:33 |
| rhochmuth1 | there was a question around py35 support in the monasca-api recently | 14:33 |
| witek | the stable branch should be created tomorrow | 14:33 |
| rhochmuth1 | thx witek | 14:33 |
| witek | rhochmuth1: you mean failing the Ocata goal? | 14:34 |
| rhochmuth1 | right | 14:34 |
| witek | well, I guess we have to communicate that we will not manage to do it for agent and api in Ocata release | 14:35 |
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| witek | they want to see that we work on this and make progress | 14:35 |
| rhochmuth1 | in pike, isn't this a requirement | 14:36 |
| witek | pardon, Pike | 14:36 |
| witek | it is the goal, not requirement | 14:37 |
| rhochmuth1 | i guess we are ok then | 14:38 |
| rhochmuth1 | #topic monasca presence in service-types-authority | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca presence in service-types-authority (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:38 | |
| efried | Howdy folks, sorry to gate-crash, but I happened to notice the meeting and monasca was in my forebrain because of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486739/ (CC: dhellmann mordred) | 14:38 |
| efried | A little background: service-types-authority is a small repository that houses what's supposed to be a definitive/authoritative list of service types known to OpenStack. Its main component is this file: https://github.com/openstack/service-types-authority/blob/master/service-types.yaml | 14:39 |
| efried | Consumers of this repository would be any client of the APIs listed therein. They can e.g. use it to (programmatically) find the official service type name based on any historical aliases for that service type; or to find the docs for the service. | 14:39 |
| efried | While reviewing the aforementioned patch, it came out that monasca actually has three APIs; but there's only one listed in that service-types.yaml. | 14:39 |
| efried | So what I think we need is for all three entries to be listed in there. | 14:39 |
| efried | Now, I'm led to understand that the doc repositories for these three projects are somewhat in flux, which is fine; but wherever they settle out ought to eventually be reflected in there. | 14:39 |
| efried | What would be nice is if someone from the monasca team proposed the patch to the service-types-authority repo, cause it's y'all who know what those three APIs are called, what their aliases might be, where their docs live, etc. | 14:39 |
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| rhochmuth1 | efried: thx | 14:40 |
| rhochmuth1 | witek: is this something that you can work on? | 14:40 |
| witek | yes, I'll add it | 14:41 |
| rhochmuth1 | or is this at area that tomasz should address | 14:41 |
| rhochmuth1 | thx witek | 14:41 |
| efried | Thanks folks. Please add me to that review whenever it's up. | 14:42 |
| rhochmuth1 | efried: thx | 14:42 |
| witek | rhochmuth1: how should we name the services? | 14:42 |
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| efried | Find me in -dev if you have any questions | 14:42 |
| witek | efried: thanks | 14:43 |
| rhochmuth1 | monitoring | 14:43 |
| rhochmuth1 | logging | 14:43 |
| rhochmuth1 | events | 14:43 |
| rhochmuth1 | i think "monitoring" covers it for now | 14:44 |
| efried | Please note naming conventions/suggestions in https://github.com/openstack/service-types-authority/blob/master/README.rst | 14:44 |
| witek | events is an alias for panko | 14:44 |
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| rhochmuth1 | i see | 14:44 |
| efried | And yes, also keep in mind that the names need to be universal and not conflict with others. | 14:44 |
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| witek | monasca-log-api has monitoring-log-api registered now | 14:45 |
| witek | we also have related discussion with Tomasz on that | 14:45 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480030/8/api-ref/source/conf.py | 14:45 |
| rhochmuth1 | service-type should be a generic | 14:46 |
| witek | my sugestion for naming would be: monitoring, monasca-log-api, monitoring-events-api | 14:46 |
| rhochmuth1 | monasca-log-api is as a service ty pe is the same as the project | 14:47 |
| witek | s/monasca-log-api/monitoring-log-api | 14:47 |
| efried | Do we need -api? | 14:47 |
| witek | efried: not really, I guess | 14:47 |
| rhochmuth1 | no | 14:47 |
| efried | For the existing entry, monitoring-log-api, we can move that to an alias and make the official service type `montioring-log` (or `monitoring-logging`) | 14:48 |
| witek | +1 | 14:49 |
| rhochmuth1 | monitoring-logging sounds good to me | 14:49 |
| rhochmuth1 | should we add events? | 14:49 |
| rhochmuth1 | i types that out and it looked rather long | 14:49 |
| efried | Wouldn't worry about length. | 14:50 |
| efried | We have e.g. container-infrastructure-management ;-) | 14:50 |
| efried | This is for programmatic consumption | 14:50 |
| witek | rhochmuth1: you don't like the name, or do you mean we should wait until implementation is ready | 14:50 |
| witek | ? | 14:50 |
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| rhochmuth1 | ok, let's just stick with monitoring-logging | 14:50 |
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| efried | So the official set would be `monitoring`, `monitoring-logging` (+alias `monitoring-log-api`), and `monitoring-events` ? | 14:51 |
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| witek | sounds good to me | 14:52 |
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| rhochmuth1 | +1 | 14:52 |
| witek | we could also wait with events until ready, if you prefer | 14:52 |
| efried | Probably not a terrible idea. Not a problem to propose -events in a separate patch later. | 14:52 |
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| rhochmuth1 | waiting until it is ready sounds good to me | 14:53 |
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| efried | Thanks all. | 14:53 |
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| rhochmuth1 | thx | 14:53 |
| rhochmuth1 | i think we are done with the agenda for today | 14:54 |
| rhochmuth1 | i'll check on the monasca-persister | 14:54 |
| rhochmuth1 | to see what folks here think | 14:54 |
| witek | could you look at this review? | 14:54 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/480030 | 14:54 |
| witek | it's about publishing monasca-api documentation to docs.openstack.org | 14:55 |
| rhochmuth1 | wow, you are taking care a lot of loose-end, thx | 14:55 |
| rhochmuth1 | i'll look at it | 14:55 |
| witek | rhochmuth1: thanks | 14:55 |
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| rhochmuth1 | should we end for the day then | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth1 | i have to go vote for some presentations | 14:56 |
| witek | :) | 14:56 |
| rhochmuth1 | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 14:57:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-07-26-14.01.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-07-26-14.01.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-07-26-14.01.log.html | 14:57 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hello. | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| _alastor_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Nihao | 16:00 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | hi | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: lol | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi!! | 16:00 |
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| patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
| cFouts | o/ | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Coutesy ping | 16:00 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ( ^_^)／ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | sivn | 16:00 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT! :) | 16:01 |
| wxy- | hello | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| _pewp_ | hemna (♦亝д 亝)ﾉ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | The end is near. | 16:02 |
| e0ne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings#Next_meeting | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 16:02 |
| lhx_ | o/ | 16:02 |
| lhx_ | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Tomorrow is milestone 3. | 16:02 |
| * jungleboyj pictures smcginnis in a sandwich board reporting this. | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | lhx_: Welcome! :) | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yay, my intention worked. | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Please let me know if there are any critical python-cinderclient patches that need to get through. | 16:03 |
| lhx_ | smcginnis, nice to see you the first time :D | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | lhx_: You too! | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | We just have today to get anything else through. | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | We had a cinderclient release last week, but we've had a few more patches make it through since then. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | http://gph.is/1pr6Izn | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | I'm going to request another release later today to pick up those. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: ;) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | A few other things with the schedule... | 16:04 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I hope, you don'te forget python-brick-cinderclient-ext too :) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Yep, absolutely! :) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Thanks for the reminder though. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | This is feature freeze as well. | 16:05 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: you're welcome | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | So no more feature patches after tomorrow unless the core team feels it's important to still get through. | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | But I'm hoping we can limit that as much as possible. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I've updated the etherpad - still a few specs and things we agreed on that are not complete. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Overall not too bad thoguh. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | *though | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | And Soft String Freeze. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | After tomorrow, we should not be making any changes to translatable strings to help the i18n team have any kind of chance of actually translating them. | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | I think this has changed from the past, but we are supposed to request on the ML if we want to merge string changes after tomorrow. | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | Let's just try to avoid them if at all possible. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Should be better now that it's just the exception strings and not all log messages. | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Should be much easier now :) | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | It is also the community goal completion deadline. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Thanks to e0ne, we have some patches out there for the uWSGI goal. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | But still not merged, so I'm hoping someone looks at those soon. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Out of our control, unfortunately. | 16:10 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: we need at lease devstack patch to be merged | 16:10 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441266/ | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | So main points: 1) Let me know if we have any cinderclient patches I need to wait on, 2) help get through priorities from the etherpad, 3) try not to make string changes. | 16:11 |
| e0ne | s/at lease/at least | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: +1 | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | OK, just a couple more announcement items... | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-queens Planning etherpad for PTG | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Any and all ideas for discussion at the PTG, please add there. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Whether you are able to attend or not. | 16:12 |
| * e0ne still waits for a visa renewval | 16:12 | |
| smcginnis | And if you are planning on attending, please add your name to that so we can get an idea. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I hope that goes well. | 16:12 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: Is P3 a deadline for back port bugs as well? | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | If you are planning on attending, please register so they can plan overall: | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-denver-2017-tickets-33219389087 PTG registration | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: No, support cycles have different deadlines. So a little more time there. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Not that we should wait if there is anything to backport. ;) | 16:13 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: ok | 16:14 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | TSP for the PTG is still open for another week I believe. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: This page shows when the support phase dates are: | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | https://releases.openstack.org/ | 16:14 |
| e0ne | tommylikehu: it's a feature freeze and client freeze deadline | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Excellent. Good to bring up. | 16:14 |
| * lhx_ looking forward to attending, but tsp application failed | 16:14 | |
| smcginnis | If you need financial support to attend, please look into the travel support program. | 16:14 |
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| Swanson | TSP? | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Travel Support Program | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | Swanson: Or Tea Sipping Protocol. You decide. | 16:15 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Mmmm tea :) | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | That's all I had for announcements. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #topic New os-brick disconnect parameters | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks for waiting a week on this. | 16:16 |
| geguileo | no problem :-) | 16:16 |
| geguileo | basically this is just an announcement | 16:16 |
| geguileo | following smcginnis last week announcement of the the os-brick version | 16:17 |
| geguileo | now minimum version for cinder is 1.15.1 | 16:17 |
| geguileo | which has a couple of new parameters which are only useful for iSCSI for now | 16:17 |
| geguileo | force and ignore_errors | 16:17 |
| geguileo | these params are for disconnect | 16:17 |
| geguileo | force means that we don't care if we lose data on disconnect | 16:17 |
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| geguileo | but we give priority to leaving the system as clean as possible on error | 16:18 |
| geguileo | useful when you are creating a vol from image | 16:18 |
| geguileo | for example | 16:18 |
| geguileo | since on failure data loss is irrelevant, you'll be deleting the vol anyway | 16:18 |
| geguileo | ignore errors means you don't want an exception to be raised if there's a failure | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Makes a lot of sense. | 16:18 |
| geguileo | ignore errors is useful if you are forcing | 16:19 |
| geguileo | and for example are detaing a volume that was mounted as read only to back it up | 16:19 |
| geguileo | you detach it forcing and ignoring errors | 16:19 |
| geguileo | you don't want to fail a backup because the detach of the source volume failed at the end | 16:19 |
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| geguileo | this was part of the iSCSI refactoring | 16:19 |
| geguileo | and there is a patch in Cinder that uses those new parameters | 16:20 |
| geguileo | https://review.openstack.org/459454 | 16:20 |
| geguileo | for now it's only usefull for iSCSI | 16:20 |
| geguileo | and that's all I wanted to say | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks, good for folks to know the change is there. | 16:20 |
| geguileo | important for any new code that we add | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | I do think there are a lot of situations where force makes sense and we really don't care the state of the data since we will just be blowing it away anyway. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks for the update. | 16:22 |
| geguileo | np | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:22 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Short agenda. What color should we paint the shed? | 16:22 |
| Swanson | Lime green like the new wolves jersey. | 16:22 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Blue. No. Green. | 16:22 |
| e0ne | shed? | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Bikeshedding time. :) | 16:23 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | OK, if there are no other topics, go forth and review. :) | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Well I found something interesting yesterday. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Good interesting or bad interesting? | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Poking around on an ovo patch for making migration status into an enum. | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Bad interesting. | 16:25 |
| eharney | FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1705407 is a bothersome bug that i'm going to post a fix for soon... pike-3 would be nice but i don't know if it'll make it | 16:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705407 in Cinder "Bootable volume creation failed with glance image of 'ISO' format" [High,New] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Looks like there a lot of places where target info is being saved into the migration status. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | eharney: yeah... | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: The status field is being set to the target info? | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | When migration status shouldn't be more than a string it has the target address. It was in the core code all the way back to like the start of cinder. | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah. | 16:26 |
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| e0ne | diablo_rojo_phon: do you have a link to the patch nearly? | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah and there are checks to make sure that migration status starts with 'target:' | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah one sec. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: That's.... odd. | 16:27 |
| e0ne | diablo_rojo_phon: oh.. we have to get rid of these things | 16:27 |
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| hemna | I think the migration status field was a sort of magic field | 16:28 |
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| hemna | since it wasn't really shown anywhere | 16:28 |
| hemna | I think there were reasons for this at one point | 16:28 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | In manager.py line 1619 | 16:30 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/tree/e62cb5eac5ee8074235a855b0ccafa1134eecc19/cinder/volume#L1619 | 16:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I was gonna go file a bunch of bugs, but I thought I'd let you all know too. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Good to at least raise awareness. | 16:31 |
| hemna | yah looks like that's there on purpose | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Sounds like maybe we'll need a new field if we want to be able to switch that to use the enums. | 16:31 |
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| hemna | changing that means db migrations | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yep. :[ | 16:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Yeah it is in a fee driver's too. | 16:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Solidfire and NEC that I saw so far | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Probably not a huge deal, but would take some work. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | It's all jgriffith's fault. :) | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Any idea why that is there? | 16:32 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | actually following the blames back it was avishay.. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Oy | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jgriffith: just took advantage in his driver ;) | 16:33 |
| lhx_ | Oh :( | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | trying to catch up | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I'm sure it was to just save the info somewhere that was easier. | 16:33 |
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| hemna | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/e62cb5eac5ee8074235a855b0ccafa1134eecc19/cinder/volume/manager.py#L1619 | 16:34 |
| hemna | that link works | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Well, probably something we can work out in channel. Thanks for the knowledge sharing diablo_rojo_phon. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Anything else for the meeting while everyone is here? | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | No problem smcginnis | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone! | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 16:36:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| lhx_ | thanks smcginnis | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-07-26-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| Swanson | toodles | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-07-26-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-07-26-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:37 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ヽ(´･ω･`)､ | 16:37 |
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| scottda | bye | 16:37 |
| tommylikehu | thanks | 16:37 |
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| jungleboyj | scottda: Happy birthday! | 16:37 |
| scottda | ha! Thanks | 16:37 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 17:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 17:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 17:00 |
| sanfern | o/ | 17:00 |
| nmagnezi | o/ | 17:00 |
| johnsom | I know we have a few people out today, so might be a short meeting. | 17:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:01 | |
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| johnsom | PTL elections are coming up, see the following link for details: | 17:01 |
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| johnsom | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 17:01 |
| johnsom | PTG is September 11-15th | 17:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg | 17:02 |
| johnsom | I plan to be there the whole week | 17:02 |
| johnsom | Feature freeze and Pike-3 milestone | 17:02 |
| johnsom | Today is the last day to get features into Pike! | 17:02 |
| johnsom | The cores have been busy doing reviews to make sure things that are ready get into the Pike-3 milestone. | 17:03 |
| johnsom | Something like over 25 patches in the last week | 17:03 |
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| johnsom | So, lots going on | 17:03 |
| johnsom | If you have a feature patch that you want in Pike and it isn't already in +2 with no -1 state, please bring it up in the progress reports section of the meeting so we can discuss. | 17:04 |
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| johnsom | The Pike-3 milestone just means no more features, we can still work on bug fixes. | 17:04 |
| johnsom | Or non-code items. | 17:04 |
| johnsom | Next milestone is RC1, the week of August 7th. | 17:05 |
| johnsom | Pike will release the week of August 28th | 17:05 |
| johnsom | Any other announcements? | 17:05 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:06 | |
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| johnsom | Ok, I have been working on openstacksdk. Everything is implemented now except for quota. | 17:07 |
| johnsom | I need to send out an e-mail, I haven't had review traction there, so not sure what is up with the project. | 17:07 |
| johnsom | I have also been working on a bunch of reviews, helping with the flavors spec, etc. | 17:08 |
| johnsom | Any other updates from folks? | 17:08 |
| johnsom | Any must-haves to bring to the attention of the cores? | 17:08 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, adam an xgerman_ already commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1705259 , would love to hear your opinion as well :) | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705259 in octavia "Octavia health-manager and worker should work better with any given interface_driver " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi) | 17:09 |
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| nmagnezi | and* | 17:09 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I saw the conversation on that last night. I kind of agree with Adam that I'm not sure if it would be helpful or more harm. | 17:10 |
| johnsom | It would assume that neutron is installed on the Octavia controller instances right? | 17:10 |
| nmagnezi | fair enough. let's follow up later | 17:10 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, installed by python dependency, yes | 17:11 |
| johnsom | Ok, we can chat about it in open discussion as it seems pretty quiet here today | 17:11 |
| nmagnezi | im afraid I'll need to drop beforehand, so I'll catch you in the channel | 17:12 |
| johnsom | If we don't have any other highlights, I will move on to open discussion | 17:12 |
| johnsom | Ok | 17:12 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:12 | |
| johnsom | Other topics for today? | 17:12 |
| jniesz | posted some comments to flavor spec based on your changes | 17:13 |
| johnsom | Cool, I saw that Evgeny also commented | 17:13 |
| johnsom | I will look at those and do another spin today. Looks like I made a mistake or two... grin | 17:14 |
| jniesz | thanks | 17:14 |
| johnsom | Thanks for the comments and reviews! | 17:15 |
| johnsom | Anything else today? | 17:15 |
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| johnsom | I will put up the Pike-3 release patch either tonight or early tomorrow depending on how patches are coming. | 17:16 |
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| johnsom | I really want QoS in, so I might work on that patch and/or open some bugs so we can get it in Pike. I think it is super close. | 17:17 |
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| johnsom | Maybe the same with failover API, but it needs a lot more work. | 17:18 |
| johnsom | Ok, thanks folks! I'm going to get back at it. | 17:18 |
| jniesz | +1 for failover api | 17:18 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 17:19:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-07-26-17.00.html | 17:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-07-26-17.00.txt | 17:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2017/octavia.2017-07-26-17.00.log.html | 17:19 |
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| krenczewski | Hi Bin | 17:58 |
| krenczewski | Hi Sukhdev | 17:58 |
| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 18:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:00 |
| pcarver | hi | 18:00 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:00 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
| pcarver | #info Paul Carver | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:00 |
| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:01 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin plans to attend PTG on 09/11-09/15. Does anyone else plan to attend? | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #info Otherwise, no other update | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Pike Release Update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin followed up with Sukhdev, and waiting for further update regarding Neutron related tasks | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #info In addition, there are 2 patched approved since our last meeting on June 28: | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | #info One is "Fix incorrect commands adding Gluon service to Keystone" | 18:04 |
| Sukhdev | bh526r: I will reply later today | 18:04 |
| bh526r | Thank you Sukhdev | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474812/ | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #info The other one is "Update documentation for Contrail installation" | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476509/ | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #info There are 7 new patches submitted for review | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #info (1) Update the documentation link for doc migration | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486511/ | 18:06 |
| jinli | info JinLi | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info This patch updates the link of OpenStack docs in our various documentation to match the new OpenStack doc structure | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info It is quite straightforward. | 18:08 |
| bh526r | #info Please take a look, and see if you have any comment | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | #info There are two +1. If there is no comment, I suggest to approve it. | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | #info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it. | 18:10 |
| bh526r | #info (2) Update formatting in Contrail docs | 18:11 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482963/ | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info This patch improves the formatting in contrail installation procedure. | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info It is quite straightforward. | 18:13 |
| bh526r | #info There are two +1. | 18:13 |
| bh526r | #info If there is no further comment, I suggest to approve it. | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it. | 18:16 |
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| bh526r | #info (3) Rule to code | 18:17 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483613/ | 18:17 |
| bh526r | #info This patch only moves rule definitions from policy.json to code. Policies definitions e.g. "create_ports" or "get_ports" will still be defined in the policy.json file. | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info In the future, policy definitions will be auto generated from model's yaml files[1]. Then policy definitions will be removed from the policy.json file. | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info There are three +1. | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info If there is no other comment, I suggest to approve it. | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it. | 18:21 |
| bh526r | #info (4) Add configuration option for policy.json file path | 18:22 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481771/ | 18:22 |
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| bh526r | #info There are 2 comments, all are editorial / typo | 18:23 |
| jinli | will need to fix the typo | 18:23 |
| jinli | good catch bin | 18:23 |
| bh526r | Thank you Jin. | 18:23 |
| bh526r | #info Except those 2 editorial typos, please review if you have any comment | 18:24 |
| bh526r | #info Jin will upload a new patchset to fix the typo. | 18:24 |
| bh526r | #info If there is no other comment by Friday July 28, assuming new patch will be uploaded at that time, this patch will be approved. Bin will take action to merge it | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #info (5) Set environment variables for protonclient | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482728/ | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #info There is 1 editorial comment | 18:27 |
| jinli | I will fix it today together with the previous one | 18:28 |
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| bh526r | Great, thank you Jin | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info Jin will upload a new patchset to fix the typo. | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info Except those 2 editorial typos, please review if you have any comment | 18:28 |
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| bh526r | #info If there is no other comment by Friday July 28, assuming new patchset will be uploaded at that time, this patch will be approved. Bin will take action to merge it | 18:29 |
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| bh526r | #info (6) Gluon object-level authorization | 18:29 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482752/ | 18:30 |
| bh526r | #info There are 3 editorial comments | 18:30 |
| pcarver | What's the purpose of the .bak file? | 18:31 |
| jinli | bin let's test this one together on Friday before we merge it | 18:31 |
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| jinli | Paul that's the original file | 18:31 |
| pcarver | but what's it for? | 18:32 |
| pcarver | Why is it in the commit? | 18:32 |
| jinli | we will remove it after we run test, it is just there for comparing code | 18:32 |
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| pcarver | but that's what Git is for | 18:33 |
| pcarver | Git already has a backup of all past states of the repository, so what's the point of committing a copy of file to the version control history? | 18:34 |
| jinli | agree, I will remove it after we run test case on Friday | 18:34 |
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| jinli | I keep it there so I can open these two files at the same time in editor | 18:35 |
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| jinli | while I modifying the code | 18:35 |
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| bh526r | Hi | 18:36 |
| pcarver | you don't need to add it to the commit in order to do that | 18:36 |
| bh526r | sorry that I was disconnected from network for a few minutes | 18:36 |
| bh526r | and I didn't blame our u-verse | 18:37 |
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| bh526r | Where are we at? | 18:37 |
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| jinli | bin let's test this one together on Friday before we merge it | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> What's the purpose of the .bak file? | 18:37 |
| jinli | <jinli> Paul that's the original file | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> but what's it for? | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> Why is it in the commit? | 18:37 |
| jinli | <jinli> we will remove it after we run test, it is just there for comparing code | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> but that's what Git is for | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> Git already has a backup of all past states of the repository, so what's the point of committing a copy of file to the version control history? | 18:37 |
| jinli | <jinli> agree, I will remove it after we run test case on Friday | 18:37 |
| jinli | <jinli> I keep it there so I can open these two files at the same time in editor | 18:37 |
| jinli | <jinli> while I modifying the code | 18:37 |
| jinli | <bh526r> Hi | 18:37 |
| jinli | <pcarver> you don't need to add it to the commit in order to do that | 18:37 |
| jinli | <bh526r> sorry that I was disconnected from network for a few minutes | 18:37 |
| jinli | <bh526r> and I didn't blame our u-verse | 18:37 |
| bh526r | Thank you Jin | 18:38 |
| bh526r | Ok, let's test it on Friday | 18:38 |
| bh526r | #info (7) Policies in yaml | 18:38 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486254/ | 18:39 |
| bh526r | #info This one is still a work in progress | 18:39 |
| jinli | same thing here, we will need to test it on Friday and clean up code before merge | 18:39 |
| bh526r | Yup, and perhaps need to rebase based on 3 merges today. | 18:40 |
| jinli | @paul, thank you for your suggestions, will pay attention to that. | 18:40 |
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| bh526r | #info (6) and (7) need further work and review. | 18:41 |
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| bh526r | That's all from my side | 18:41 |
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| bh526r | Anything else or any update from anyone else? | 18:41 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:41 |
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| bh526r | If no other update or nothing else from your side, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 15 minutes | 18:42 |
| bh526r | #info Nothing else | 18:43 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:43 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 18:43:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-07-26-18.00.html | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-07-26-18.00.txt | 18:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-07-26-18.00.log.html | 18:43 |
| krenczewski | Thanks, bye | 18:43 |
| bh526r | Thank you everyone. | 18:43 |
| bh526r | Bye all | 18:43 |
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| fungi | according to discussion in #storyboard, there's no storyboard meeting today but please review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:open+project:%255E.*storyboard.* | 19:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | Yes yes, lots of reviews please :) | 19:12 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 26 21:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:01 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| clayg | hello | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| acoles | hi | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | hello everyone | 21:02 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ? | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | joeljwright: ! | 21:03 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:03 |
| joeljwright | good evening | 21:03 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | welcome everyone | 21:03 |
| notmyname | should be a quick meeting, I think | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | (I normally think that, though) | 21:03 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 21:03 |
| notmyname | kota_: thanks for chairing the 0700 meeting | 21:03 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:04 |
| notmyname | is it mattoliverau or mahatic for the next one? | 21:04 |
| kota_ | you're welcome | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | Me | 21:04 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:04 |
| kota_ | mattoliverau | 21:04 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:04 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: please feel free to ping me about the agenda | 21:04 |
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| mattoliverau | Don't worry I will :) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | quick update on the big docs migration work... | 21:05 |
| notmyname | #topic docs migration | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "docs migration (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:05 | |
| notmyname | status: done | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | Nice | 21:05 |
| notmyname | I just reviewed the stuff with dhellmann. I'll land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487582/ momentarily, and that's it | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 487582 - python-swiftclient - moved cli doc to the right place for new links pro... | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | further docs work will continue in our repos, but the migration of content from the -manuals team is done | 21:06 |
| timburke | i saw that -- what was up with it? i don't really "get" that patch... | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | still definitely a lot to to do to improve docs overall. I want to talk at the ptg about it :-) | 21:06 |
| notmyname | timburke: the redirect goes to /cli/ instead of /cli.html | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ie from the main docs pages | 21:06 |
| timburke | ah | 21:06 |
| joeljwright | timburke: I was thinking the same :) | 21:07 |
| notmyname | #topic upcoming releases | 21:07 |
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| jungleboyj | @! | 21:07 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (。･д･)ﾉﾞ | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I must tag swiftclient today | 21:07 |
| notmyname | this will be the swiftclient in the pike release | 21:08 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475038/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478611/ are what I'm looking at to see if they will be in | 21:08 |
| patchbot | patch 475038 - python-swiftclient - Allow for uploads from standard input. | 21:08 |
| patchbot | patch 478611 - python-swiftclient - Turn stdin uploads into SLO above 10MB. | 21:08 |
| notmyname | ..and I see timur just joined :-) | 21:08 |
| timur | hi! :) | 21:08 |
| notmyname | seems likely these will be landable today | 21:09 |
| notmyname | timur: what do you think? | 21:10 |
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| clayg | everything will be awesomer in the future | 21:10 |
| clayg | the future may come sooner than you think - but never soon enough! | 21:11 |
| timur | I just addressed the latest comments from acoles. I think the first patch is ready to merge. The second patch had fewer eyes on it, but Tim looked at it and it seemed ok | 21:11 |
| clayg | does it not blow up with the unicode inputs anymore? | 21:11 |
| acoles | I just +2'd first one | 21:11 |
| timur | I addressed his comments yesterday. If someone else could look at it, I think we'd be in good shape to merge it as well | 21:11 |
| clayg | acoles: is all about the future | 21:11 |
| notmyname | yeah, I think the first one will be pretty easy to be ok with landing | 21:11 |
| joeljwright | if we can land the 1st one it's be pretty cool | 21:11 |
| timur | clayg: the unicode thing got fixed a little while back | 21:11 |
| clayg | noice | 21:11 |
| timburke | timur: do we log segments as they upload? | 21:12 |
| notmyname | the question for the second is "should we land the second one today and iterate but have it in a release" or should we not land the second one and not have it in a release for 6-8 weeks | 21:12 |
| timur | timburke: right -- I meant to do that yesterday and forgot -- will do tha tnow | 21:13 |
| timur | timburke: to answer the question: current patchset does not log segments | 21:13 |
| notmyname | but it will be more awesome in the future! like in 30 minutes! | 21:13 |
| timburke | thanks. i think the other two larger concerns i can live with for now | 21:13 |
| notmyname | so that's where we are with swiftclient. any thoughts on that? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | specifically about timur's second patch landing or not? | 21:14 |
| joeljwright | the 2nd one seems much more experimental | 21:14 |
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| acoles | sorry I did not get time to look at the second one | 21:15 |
| acoles | yet | 21:15 |
| joeljwright | haven't looked at it for a couple of weeks though (sorry) | 21:15 |
| * clayg shrugs | 21:15 | |
| notmyname | the brits are apologizing like canadians ;-) | 21:16 |
| joeljwright | sorry ;) | 21:16 |
| clayg | timur: I think we can package whatever sha we want for swiftclient same as swift | 21:16 |
| clayg | they both seem like features to me - so I'm not sure either should "block" an upstream release no matter how great they are | 21:16 |
| clayg | what is the *other* driver for a swiftclient release (besides getting these awesome new features into the hands of swiftclient users!?) | 21:17 |
| notmyname | a particular product packaging doesn't matter matter as much for swiftclient. most client users will likely get the client from pip, not a distro or product repo | 21:17 |
| clayg | because if we're doing a feature release (which is fine by me) - let's just wait until it has all the features we want to deliver? | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | clayg: we haven't done one in pike yet, and the deadline for that is tomorrow (ie tag tonight). there's good stuff in it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485859/2/ChangeLog | 21:18 |
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| patchbot | patch 485859 - python-swiftclient - 3.4.0 authors/changelog update | 21:18 |
| clayg | if there's good things we're we're keeping from our users because some new feature isn't ready - let's release what's ready and has broad support and call it a day!? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | yeah, the only reason today is important for swiftclient is because it's the last day for the pike release cycle for clients | 21:18 |
| clayg | ok, so sounds like merge the new feature with all the +2's and +A's and recent love and reviews - and hold of on the other because - this release is already so awesome you can almost taste it like butter | 21:18 |
| joeljwright | clayg: +1 | 21:19 |
| notmyname | so the stream from stdin is a great feature. I'm happy to have just that. but also doing the SLO thing would be even better ;-) | 21:19 |
| joeljwright | gotta save something for 3.5.0! | 21:19 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:19 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | ok, swift itself | 21:19 |
| clayg | it's not going to be a big priority for me today with other things going on - but if the stdin needs one more pass for a +A I'm available to merge stuff that's already been beat to death and known to be in good shape ready to merge | 21:20 |
| notmyname | I'd like to tag a swift release later this week (and another in about 4 weeks as a final pike release) | 21:20 |
| acoles | timburke: had a +2 on it before I caused trouble | 21:20 |
| clayg | tag *all* the sha's | 21:20 |
| notmyname | the biggest thing that hasn't landed yet for the next swift release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478416/ | 21:21 |
| patchbot | patch 478416 - swift - Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstr... | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | which I know several of you have been looking at really hard recently | 21:21 |
| clayg | timburke: acoles: thank you *so* much for putting in so much effort to get that change into shape | 21:21 |
| clayg | I know people are just going to LOVE it | 21:21 |
| clayg | and there's more we can do too!!! whooo hoooo | 21:21 |
| notmyname | I'm somewhat sad that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480 still doesn't have reviews on it, though | 21:22 |
| patchbot | patch 448480 - swift - DB replicator cleanup | 21:22 |
| clayg | if it turns out that acoles and timburke and clayg are the three cores that mostly own that patch... hrmm... maybe I can try to write some more docs or something for folks that need to ramp up on the design more quickly | 21:22 |
| clayg | I think the reconstructor design has a section in the ec_overview acctually | 21:22 |
| clayg | oh right... yeah Pavel's final cleanup there was pretty gravy | 21:23 |
| acoles | notmyname: sorry I didn't make it to that one 448480, had hoped to today | 21:23 |
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| acoles | notmyname: maybe tomorrow if multi-proc reconstructor is looking good | 21:23 |
| notmyname | it's fine. we aren't as much in a time crunch for swift, and I appreciate your time on the client patch (and the reconstructor patch) | 21:24 |
| notmyname | buuuut.... /me looks at tdasilva mattoliverau and kota_ ;-) | 21:24 |
| acoles | IIRC mahatic said at 0700 mtg she would try to look at 448480 | 21:24 |
| acoles | notmyname: kota_ has been all over composite builder patch :) | 21:25 |
| kota_ | i could have time to look at some patches today | 21:25 |
| clayg | i've been really wanting patch 390781 lately too | 21:25 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390781/ - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count | 21:25 |
| kota_ | which one needs eyes rather than? | 21:25 |
| tdasilva | i'll be off for the next few days, but coming back on Tuesday I could take a look at whatever is left | 21:26 |
| kota_ | i meant 448480 or 478416 | 21:26 |
| notmyname | good question | 21:26 |
| kota_ | but I had dayoff on Friday, be back Monday though | 21:26 |
| notmyname | ok. given that, I'm only wanting to see the reconstructor patch in this release | 21:27 |
| notmyname | we'll have another release very soon (~1 month), and that should include both 448480 and 478416 | 21:27 |
| kota_ | acoles: nice work on the composite ring builder, great work made me to have time for another review ;) | 21:27 |
| kota_ | notmyname: ok, got it. | 21:27 |
| kota_ | try it | 21:28 |
| notmyname | oh, sorry. patch 478416 *is* the reconstructor patch. that one is most important | 21:28 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478416/ - swift - Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstr... | 21:28 |
| notmyname | I was thinking patch 448480 and patch 390781 | 21:28 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480/ - swift - DB replicator cleanup | 21:28 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390781/ - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count | 21:28 |
| kota_ | oh, patch 390781 is still there!? | 21:28 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390781/ - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | so for a strict ordering, patch 478416 then patch 448480 then patch 390781 | 21:29 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478416/ - swift - Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstr... | 21:29 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480/ - swift - DB replicator cleanup | 21:29 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390781/ - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count | 21:29 |
| notmyname | in that order because of the merge conflict on the third one | 21:30 |
| notmyname | sound ok to everyone? | 21:30 |
| kota_ | make sense | 21:30 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | I'll try and take a look, but like I said in the 0700 meeting, I'm getting in trouble working too much on my "last" week of holidays ;) | 21:31 |
| notmyname | :-) thanks. do what you can | 21:31 |
| clayg | notmyname: I mean... patch 390781 is pretty great, becauase default replication_one_per_device = True is just total garbage/crap | 21:31 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390781/ - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count | 21:31 |
| clayg | but... it's not acctually on the priority review page currently I don't think (I'll add it "somewhere") | 21:31 |
| clayg | but... | 21:31 |
| clayg | I think we also have e.g. patch 472659 | 21:32 |
| timburke | mattoliverau: what if we double -- no, triple! -- your normal pay for this week? ;-) | 21:32 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472659/ - swift - Allow to rebuild a fragment of an expired object | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | timburke, lol | 21:32 |
| clayg | which acoles looked at - and is maybe close - but also sort of a big deal | 21:32 |
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| clayg | like I think currently you can't use expiring EC objects without boning your consistency engine if you have a disk failure or rebalance (which is like ~= to "you can't use expiring EC objects") | 21:33 |
| notmyname | yeah, we need to adjust the priority reviews page somewhat. let's focus on the reconstructor patch for this week, then release and adjust the priority reviews page for what we want to see finally in pike | 21:33 |
| acoles | clayg: on that one ^^ I'd love your opinion on the new header name cos apart from that I am close to +2 | 21:33 |
| clayg | oh right, yeah gd, romain - just use x-backend-replication already | 21:33 |
| acoles | is Romain around? maybe I'll just change it | 21:34 |
| clayg | like it should just change to x-backend-ssync or something or whatever - but GAH - get over it - hysterical reasons | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ok, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews updated | 21:35 |
| notmyname | #topic ptg | 21:35 |
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| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens | 21:35 |
| notmyname | keep working on that, as you have topics | 21:35 |
| clayg | tdasilva: you need to keep advocating for patch 371150 | 21:36 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371150/ - swift - Return 404 on a GET if tombstone is newer | 21:36 |
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| clayg | ... in your infinite free time ... assuming it's ready to go and awesome | 21:36 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | the 2 days of bug triage at the start of the ptg is a great idea. | 21:37 |
| tdasilva | clayg: we changed the scope to be just for repl, so i think it's ready to go | 21:37 |
| notmyname | what do we need to figure out before that? | 21:37 |
| mattoliverau | Who'll be there for the first 2 days and keen.. and that doesn't mean you can triage before then ;) | 21:38 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | *cant | 21:38 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:38 |
| torgomatic | I'll be around | 21:38 |
| clayg | i'm there the whole time - but I don't see why we have to wait to triage!? | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | Let's add names to the etherpad so people know who to look for | 21:39 |
| notmyname | no need to wait to triage. mattoliverau and tdasilva and timburke have been putting us to shame already ;-) | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | clayg: exactly | 21:39 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: good idea. I added that to the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens | 21:39 |
| notmyname | I will send an email to the -dev list about this too | 21:40 |
| clayg | cschwede promised I could start doing triage as soon as he posted the list - that looks like the list!? | 21:40 |
| notmyname | that's the list! | 21:40 |
| tdasilva | it's probably a good idea to emphasize that the first effort is just to triage, not fix the bugs...don't know if people have been hesitant thinking they have to pick bugs to fix | 21:40 |
| clayg | but umm.. what is that thing about "won't fix" ??? | 21:40 |
| notmyname | I fixed the won't fix line | 21:41 |
| notmyname | so what do you want the bug triage days to look like? just getting around a table and starting fromt he top of the list? | 21:42 |
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| notmyname | do we need anything for that, other that knowing where to meet on site? | 21:42 |
| mattoliverau | Divide and conquer | 21:42 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: that was my first thought | 21:42 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: +1 | 21:42 |
| clayg | notmyname: let's talk about that closer to the PTG - it's not till september right? | 21:42 |
| clayg | let's focus on what we can get done between then and now? | 21:42 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, if we get triage done we could potentially fix some too :) | 21:43 |
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| clayg | i don't want to waste face time doing bug crunching - but if every core can't do 5 a week or whatever it was maybe we have an async bug triage party - or yeah do it in person - probably beers could help pass the time | 21:43 |
| notmyname | heh, yeah. over the next 4 weeks (between now and september), I've got 2 weeks of vacation and a week of on-call for jury duty. I'm already feeling like the PTG is next week ;-) | 21:43 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: wow, yeah your outta time | 21:44 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok, well - it *is* close - but I also think cschwede has set us up nice and pretty - we have a list - we have a rough process - let's just do and have a weekly feedback (in this meeting) | 21:44 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:44 |
| clayg | acoles: timburke: tdasilva: any protips for newbs like me that are hoping to grab ~5/wk? | 21:45 |
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| notmyname | ok, then instead of rushing to schedule something more than a month out, consider this your FYI on the bug triage :-) | 21:45 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: cc | 21:45 |
| timburke | clayg: crank through it while you wait on probe tests? | 21:45 |
| acoles | clayg: under-promise, over-deliver :) | 21:45 |
| clayg | it'll be great to use the face-to-face to discuss the process | 21:45 |
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| clayg | timburke: acoles: great advice! | 21:45 |
| clayg | there was some proposed additional tags on the eatherpad - do they make sense to use them? | 21:46 |
| clayg | like to tag bugs toward a specific area of the code base? | 21:46 |
| acoles | clayg: so far my tiny contribution was serendipitous, I have failed to make any dent. | 21:46 |
| clayg | do the bugs you find even work like that? | 21:46 |
| tdasilva | clayg: i've been using them fwiw | 21:46 |
| acoles | clayg: I think the tags listed are now official on lauchpad meaning they will autocomplete in the textbox | 21:47 |
| clayg | it looks like mostly mattoliverau and tdasilva - so I guess maybe next week we'll see some different names too and that will be great! | 21:47 |
| acoles | which help keep tagging somewhat consistent | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | clayg: i think especially the needs consensus could be helpful now, ther tags that mark a specific area of the code i'm hoping can be useful in the future ??? | 21:47 |
| clayg | acoles: WFM! | 21:47 |
| clayg | tdasilva: I don't *think* I see any _in bold_ | 21:48 |
| notmyname | acoles: tdasilva: consistent tags are great! | 21:48 |
| clayg | does that mean we don't have any "need consensus" atm - or just that they're all tagged in lp instead of bold'd on the eatherpad? | 21:48 |
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| tdasilva | clayg: the one 'needs consensus' i had, got resolved ;) | 21:49 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: that's great. I was slightly worried about that tag | 21:50 |
| notmyname | that it would just be a way to defer actualy making a decision | 21:50 |
| notmyname | so the fact it got resolved is great! | 21:50 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i was hoping that the round table at the ptg would be a great way to resolve them | 21:50 |
| notmyname | #topic yeah | 21:50 |
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| notmyname | lol | 21:50 |
| tdasilva | high-bandwidth conversation and get things done | 21:50 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:51 |
| notmyname | are there other topics to bring up for this week? anything that someone needs help on? | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | all right, then | 21:52 |
| notmyname | I'll be traveling with limited online access for the next two weeks. not sure yet what that means, if anything, for next week's 2100 meeting | 21:52 |
| mattoliverau | That'll be a no then | 21:52 |
| mattoliverau | I guess we take it as it comes then | 21:53 |
| notmyname | thank you, everyone, for your work on swift and in the community | 21:53 |
| notmyname | and congrats mattoliverau on your new job :-) | 21:53 |
| notmyname | we're all very excited for you | 21:53 |
| mattoliverau | Ta :) | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: woohoo! congrats! | 21:54 |
| joeljwright | yay! | 21:54 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 26 21:54:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-21.01.html | 21:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-21.01.txt | 21:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-07-26-21.01.log.html | 21:54 |
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