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ttxo/15:00
ttxPing: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, stevemar, lbragstad15:00
lbragstad`o/15:01
fungicoffee at the ready15:01
ttx#startmeeting releaseteam15:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Jun  2 15:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'15:01
ttx#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-tracking15:01
ttxAgenda is on week R-13 of that doc ^15:01
dhellmanno/15:01
ttx#topic Milestone-2 week tasks vs. team availability15:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Milestone-2 week tasks vs. team availability (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"15:02
ttxI'll be traveling to various places between Monday and Friday next week, which coincides with Pike-2 milestone15:02
fungigood choice15:02
ttxI don't think we expect any specific task beyong approving stuff15:02
ttxdhellmann: anything special we need to do ?15:03
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ttxI'll be reviewing release requests on-and-off, just won't commit to doing my "release day" as much as usual15:03
dhellmannI'm on a call, can we come back to this?15:03
fungiinfra team isn't planning any disruptive maintenance next week, so should hopefully be smooth on our end15:04
ttxsure, but I fear all topics require your input :) So maybe better to just pause the meeting ?15:04
ttxdhellmann: ping us when ready ?15:04
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dhellmannok, I'm back, sorry15:05
dhellmannthat call always runs over a few minutes15:05
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ttxno pb15:05
dhellmannI don't think there's anything special for the second milestone week, it's just approving the tags15:05
ttxright15:06
dhellmannI see you mentioned to library owners that they should be planning a release15:06
dhellmannwe may want to push on that a bit if we don't get them by next week15:06
ttxso we should be able to survive my relative absence, as long as dims/dhellmann can cover a bit15:06
dhellmannto make sure we have them before M315:06
ttxyes15:06
dhellmannyeah, I'll be working next week for sure15:06
ttx#topic Pike-2 TODOs update15:06
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ttxLooking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-plan there are a few things still open for PIKE-215:07
ttx* Documenting Being more relaxed about independent library releases during the freeze period (ttx)15:07
ttxlooks like you approved it, so I consider it commpleted now15:07
dhellmannyes, I reviewed that this morning15:08
ttxSupport storyboard in openstack/releases (ttx)15:08
ttxso this won't be completed by pike-215:08
dhellmannwhat's needed there?15:08
ttxI fear that my "dev time" will be consumed by things like the ptgbot between now and pike-315:08
dhellmannis that updating stories/tasks when something is released?15:08
ttxyes15:08
dhellmannok15:08
ttx"step 3: support updating tasks in storyboard when a release is cut, like we do with leaving comments for launchpad bugs"15:09
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ttxI mean, I may end up doing it, but I can't promise anything, just too much travel in June/July15:09
dhellmannthat's a pretty focused task, maybe we can ask on the ML for a volunteer15:09
ttxSo I propose we move it to PIKE-3 and look for a volunteer15:10
ttxI can certainly send an email15:10
dhellmanndo we have any cycle-based projects relying on storyboard15:10
dhellmann?15:10
fungithe shortlist of project groups may be useful15:10
ttxhmm, probably not15:10
fungi#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/list project groups in storyboard15:10
dhellmannI see shade and requestsexceptions do15:11
fungicloudkitty, monasca...15:11
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ttxcloudkitty is milestone-based I think15:11
fungiincluding their client?15:11
dhellmannok, they don't have storyboard set up in the releases repo15:11
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ttxno, it's intermediary15:11
fungioh, is that being tracked separately from where we declare it in the project-config repo?15:12
fungi(the storyboard usage i mean)15:12
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dhellmannthe deliverable file has a place to specify the storyboard id (looks like a number)15:12
fungiahh, got it15:12
ttxanyway, I'll send an email asking for volunteer15:12
dhellmannI think adding that was the first step to adding storyboard support15:12
dhellmann++15:12
fungithat number isn't known until after they move to sb, so we'll need to remember to remind teams to update that in releases15:13
ttx#action ttx to ask for volunteer to take over releases/storyboard link15:13
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dhellmannfungi : good point15:13
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fungilonger term, we might be able to use api queries against sb to figure that out instead of tracking it separately in a file15:13
ttx#topic "High" TODOs status update15:13
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ttxthere are a number of "HIGH" TODOs that are not completed yet in the plan15:14
ttx* Consolidate the release tools that use the releases repository data in the releases repository (dhellmann)15:14
fungidiablo_rojo_phon: ^ you might want to make a note of the discussion in that last topic15:14
ttxdhellmann: what's left to do in there ?15:14
dhellmannthere's one more task for that, to have the team name pass through to the announce script instead of it looking the value up15:14
ttxOK, should we target that to PIKE-3 ?15:15
dhellmannI will spend some time on that early next week to try to get it off the list15:15
dhellmannyeah, let's move to pike-3 though15:15
ttxok15:15
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diablo_rojo_phonfungi: I followed it a bit; thanks for the heads up!15:15
ttx*Port all release tools to work under python 315:16
ttxagain I think it's pretty close to completion15:16
dhellmannyes, the only thing I have listed to do for that is add a unit test job15:16
dhellmannthe tools all work, we just need the test job to ensure they keep working15:16
dhellmannI'll try to do that one today15:16
ttxdid we work around the lazr stuff ?15:16
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dhellmannoh, hmm15:16
dhellmannthe one tool to update launchpad bugs that lives in project-config still needs lazr15:17
dhellmanneverything else has been ported15:17
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dhellmannand I guess there are still tools in the release-tools repo that use lazr, too15:17
ttxshould we revise the goal to exclude that tool ?15:17
fungilaunchpadlib depends on lazr-restful right?15:17
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ttxsomething like that15:17
dhellmannalthough https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460649/ removes launchpadlib from the release-tools requirements list15:18
patchbotpatch 460649 - openstack-infra/release-tools - remove launchpadlib from requirements list (MERGED)15:18
fungiso probably not a lot to do about that until we finally get away from lp15:18
fungioh?15:18
fungiahh, i see15:18
dhellmannsome of the tools clearly still use it, so I think I just did that to get the tox setup to work15:19
dhellmannwe mostly don't use those tools any more15:19
dhellmannall of the critical stuff except the announcement stuff is in project-config now15:19
fungigot it15:20
ttxjust wondering what the next step is15:20
ttxif there is one15:20
dhellmannI was going to set up a python 3 unit test job15:20
ttxok15:20
dhellmannnow I wonder if it makes more sense to move the announce script over to project-config instead15:20
dhellmannor even the releases repo itself15:20
ttxand/or refine the scope of the goal so that it aligns better with what we can actually do15:21
dhellmanneither would let us use it in the list-changes job to verify that the announcement email will work properly15:21
dhellmannor that15:21
ttxPike-3 ?15:21
dhellmannI'll set up the unit test job, that's easy15:21
dhellmannwe should have a longer conversation about the other things15:21
dhellmannshould I start a ML thread?15:21
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ttxsounds like a good idea15:21
dhellmannok15:22
dhellmann#action dhellmann set up py35 unit test job for release-tools repo15:22
dhellmann#action dhellmann start ML thread about what to do with the release announce tools15:22
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ttx#topic Volunteers to run countdown email and meeting (or skip)15:23
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ttxGiven my limited availability I was wondering if we still want to have meetings/ countdown email next week, and if yes if we have volunteers to run them15:23
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ttxThe meeting in particular, I'll be in a likely-wifi-less highspeed train15:24
ttxI still think a meetign would be useful15:24
ttxsince we may want to decide what to do with Pike-2 stragglers15:24
ttx(and anyone who hasn't done their lib release yet)15:24
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ttxanyone up for chairing that in my absence ?15:25
dhellmannI can run the meeting, if we need to have it15:25
ttxThx dhellmann15:25
ttxThe countdown email, i can probably send it15:25
ttxAlthough we could also decide to skip it15:26
ttxThe only thing I would put in it would be Pike-2 straggelrs15:26
dhellmannI can send a separate email just on that topic15:26
dhellmannI'll do that Friday after the meeting, based on the discussion15:26
ttxright, better timing15:26
ttxOK, let's skip the countdown email then15:27
ttxand do one the week after15:27
dhellmannit will let me tag those projects in the subject, too15:27
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ttx#topic Open discussion15:28
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ttxAlright, anything else15:28
dhellmannI have a series of patches to add jsonschema to the releases repo15:29
funginothing for me15:29
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ttxWe have a number of things blocked on stable team still. I read something about tonyb being back though15:29
dhellmannhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/releases+topic:use-jsonschema15:29
lbragstadttx: that's good news!15:29
ttxlbragstad: that was a tweet.15:29
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ttxBut I hear it's OK those days to govern using tweets15:29
lbragstad#link https://twitter.com/tonybreeds/status/86756213282024652815:30
ttxdhellmann: any hint on when "real soon now" actually is ?15:30
ttxor whether he'll be able to work on stable ?15:30
dhellmannI don't know the answer to either of those, unfortunately15:30
ttxOK, let's patiently wait then15:31
lbragstadwe've lost a few of our stable project cores recently - so it'd be good to sync back up with tonyb at some point15:31
dhellmannI'm not exactly sure what his role is going to be15:31
ttxIf nothing else... let's close the meeting15:31
dhellmannthat's all I had15:31
ttxAlright. Have a great week-end (and week)15:31
lbragstado/15:32
dhellmannyou, too, ttx15:32
ttx#endmeeting15:32
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