Tuesday, 2017-04-11

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hongbin#startmeeting zun03:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 03:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zun'03:00
hongbin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-04-11_0300_UTC Today's agenda03:00
hongbin#topic Roll Call03:00
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kevinzkevinz03:00
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NamrataNamrata03:00
shubhamsshubham kumar sharma03:00
Shunlishunli03:00
lakerzhoulakerzhou03:01
hongbinthanks for joining the meeting kevinz Namrata shubhams Shunli lakerzhou03:02
hongbinlet's get started03:02
hongbin#topic Announcements03:02
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hongbin1. Madhuri and Pradeep are on leave, so might not be able to join the meeting03:02
hongbin2. Zun will hold a feedback session at Boston Forum (Thursday 11:00 - 11:40)03:02
hongbin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20170410/32dd3c13/attachment.pdf03:02
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hongbinif you go to boston summit, remember to come to the feedback session :)03:03
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hongbinthis session is for the team to get boarder feedback from the community03:03
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lakerzhouyou just answered my question03:03
kevinzCool03:03
hongbini will chair the session, hopefully, we could get some helpful input03:03
shubhamsgreat03:04
lakerzhougreat03:04
hongbinhow many of you will go to the boston summit?03:04
kevinzBut I can't go to Boston..03:04
lakerzhouI will.03:04
hongbinkevinz: lakerzhou ack03:04
hongbinlakerzhou: look forward to seeing you there :)03:04
hongbin3. Propose to have a "Boston Summit" release by the end of April03:05
shubhamshongbin:  I wont be coming03:05
ShunliI cannot03:05
lakerzhousure, I will have a lighting talk there.03:05
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Namrataif visa gets approved03:05
Namratathen i will03:05
hongbinShunli: shubhams ack, hope to have a chance to see you in elsewhere03:05
hongbinNamrata: ack03:05
hongbin3. Propose to have a "Boston Summit" release by the end of April03:06
hongbini propose to make a release before the boston summit, the date would be roughly by the end of april03:07
hongbinthe goal of this release is to have a version to demo on the summit03:07
kevinzThat greate03:07
hongbinjust let me know if anything you want to include in this summit03:08
hongbini will try to get them in and incorproate it in a demo if possible03:08
Namratagreat03:08
lakerzhoucool03:08
hongbinany qestion for hte above announment?03:09
kevinzdo we have a demo in Keynote?03:09
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hongbinkevinz: i am not sure yet03:09
kevinzhongbin: OK03:09
hongbinkevinz: will let you know if there is one03:10
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digao/03:10
digasorry got late03:10
hongbindiga: hi diga, thianks for joining03:10
hongbin#topic Cinder integration (diga)03:10
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digahongbin: hi03:10
hongbindiga: you are arriving at the right time, want to give the team a update?03:11
digahongbin: I have incorporated your comments and have made the changes accordingly03:11
digahongbin: :)03:11
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digahongbin: I will push my patch in sometime,03:11
hongbindiga: ack03:11
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429943/03:11
digahongbin: will ping you later03:12
hongbindiga: i saw the gate was failed, do you need help for trouble-shooting the gate?03:12
digahongbin: also CLI is also implemented & working,03:12
digahongbin: Yeah03:12
hongbindiga: ok, i can help you with that03:13
digahongbin: I dont know how to pass the gate without test cases03:13
digahongbin: it will be really helpful03:13
hongbinsure, will help you offline03:13
digahongbin: Thank you!03:13
digahongbin: sure03:13
hongbin#action hongbin help diga to get the cinder integration patch passed the gate03:13
digahongbin: sorry I wasn't active on irc/zun in last two weeks due product release03:14
hongbindiga: that is fine03:14
hongbindiga: thanks for your contribution on this feature03:14
digahongbin: welcome!03:14
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hongbinall, any remark on this bp?03:15
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hongbinseems no, advance topic03:15
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hongbin#topic Kuryr integration (hongbin)03:15
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hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/kuryr-integration The BP03:15
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hongbinthis is hte patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453387/03:16
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453387/03:16
hongbini think this patch is pretty close to remove the aip03:16
hongbinwip03:16
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digahongbin: will take a look at it today03:17
hongbinwhat it does is to find a neutron network, and use kuryr plugin to create a docker network03:17
hongbindiga: ack03:18
digahongbin: looks good approach03:18
digahongbin: 1 question, this is only for docker right, not k8s03:18
hongbindiga: yes, only for docker03:19
digahongbin: got it03:19
kevinzhongbin: Thanks for this great work. I will find time to review and try it:-)03:19
hongbinkevinz: ack, perhaps try it after the wip is removed03:20
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kevinzYeah sure03:20
hongbinok, any question about this topic?03:20
shu-mutouHi!03:20
hongbinshu-mutou: hi shu, thanks for joining03:20
shu-mutouI wrote up the priorities of Zun UI for Pike, please check it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-zun-ui03:21
digahongbin: I will post my comments on patch if any03:21
hongbin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-zun-ui03:21
hongbin#action everyone review the zun ui ehterpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-zun-ui03:21
hongbinok, advance topic03:22
hongbin#topic Introduce container composition03:22
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hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437759/03:22
hongbinkevinz: want to drive this one?03:22
kevinzkevinz: Yeah03:23
kevinzHere is the details. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-container-composition03:23
kevinzIncluding the yaml file structure and API for "Capsule"03:24
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FengShengqinthe format of yaml file is like docker-compose?03:25
hongbinkevinz: i think you are ready to incorporate the sample yaml file into the spec03:25
kevinzFengShengqin: The format is more like Kubernetes03:25
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FengShengqinlike pod ?03:26
kevinzhongbin: OK, I will add it to spec03:26
hongbinkevinz: whenever you think it is ready, you can remove the wip , and we will do another iteration of reviews03:26
digahongbin: can you explain what is the purpose of this use case in short?03:26
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kevinz<FengShengqin> Yeah like a pod03:26
hongbindiga: the use case is supporting multi-container application03:26
digahongbin: okay03:27
kevinzhongbin: OK I will. That's cool03:27
hongbinkevinz: yes, this feature looks ready to move forward from my side03:27
digahongbin: in this case, we are going to implement app containers scenario03:28
digahongbin: only app endpoint will be shared to the end user03:28
hongbindiga: don't get what is "app containers scenario"03:28
kevinzhongbin: Thanks, I'll continue03:28
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hongbindiga: i think it is simply the pod use cases03:29
hongbindiga: group multiple containers into a single host03:29
digahongbin: means, lets say I want to deploy wordpress website, wordpresse app needed (wordpress, mysql etc), so in this case, we are going to start two container simultaneously03:30
digahongbin: okay03:30
hongbindiga: yes, you can group wordpress and mysql into a capsule03:30
digahongbin: ohh its pod like, got it03:30
digahongbin: yeah03:30
hongbinkevinz: thanks kevin for working on this feature03:31
kevinzhongbin: My pleasure :-)03:31
hongbinbefore advance topic, any other questions for kevinz ?03:31
hongbin#topic Open Discussion03:32
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FengShengqinwhy  group multiple containers into a single host   ?03:32
kevinzFengShengqin: That will be easy for user to use multiple containers according to their requests03:33
hongbinFengShengqin: to support use cases that needs a set of closely-related containers that are pysically collocated03:33
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hongbinyes, it is basically the pod/compose use cases03:34
FengShengqini see03:34
Shunliany flag or policies like nova server group to control?03:34
Shunlicontainers on a host or some host03:35
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hongbinShunli: i think contianers in the capsule would have only one policy: scheduled to the same host03:36
hongbinShunli: you have use cases for supporting additional scheduling policies?03:37
ShunliI guess containers like vms, there are anti-affinity use cases.03:38
hongbinShunli: ack03:38
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hongbinShunli: i think we can record this use case as a bp, then i willl have the team to review it later03:39
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ShunliOK. Log a bp first03:39
hongbinShunli: mind i assign you an action item to create the bp?03:39
ShunliBut i'm not sure how this will relate to 'capsule'03:39
hongbinit doesn't have to relate to capsule imo03:40
ShunliSure, I will log one.03:40
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hongbin#action Shunli created a bp for descriping anti-infinity scheduling use cases03:40
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hongbinShunli: btw, i sent you and sudipta an email about the host capability03:41
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hongbinShunli: do you have any question about what i said about the host capability?03:42
Shunliseems it's drawn in the mails. Let me find it out.03:42
hongbinok03:42
hongbinNamrata: lakerzhou : if you want, feel free to chime in and give the team an update of the work you did03:43
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ShunliSeems I didn't get the mail. Did you send to slzhou@fiberhome.com?03:43
hongbinShunli: don't remember the address, will confirm it03:44
hongbinShunli: i will re-send if hte address is wrong03:44
ShunliOK. thx.03:44
hongbinnp03:45
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NamrataThanks hongbin03:45
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hongbinNamrata: yes, please go ahead and talk about your heat work03:46
Namratayeah sure03:46
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hongbinNamrata: do you have a chance to update the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426210/03:48
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NamrataHongbin : was busy with another work03:49
hongbinNamrata: huangtianhua give a few suggestions about several things03:49
hongbinNamrata: i see03:49
Namratawill complete this week03:49
Namrataall the patches related to heat03:49
Namratasorry for the inconvinience03:49
hongbinNamrata: sure, np03:49
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hongbinNamrata: thanks for the work03:50
Namratathanks03:50
lakerzhoua quick update of container snapshot. I just tested the following: generate snapshot; verify the snapshot with docker images; created glance image; created new zun container from the glance image; verified the container created properly.03:50
lakerzhouI am working on unit testing codes now03:50
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hongbinlakerzhou: cool, thanks zhou03:50
lakerzhounp03:51
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lakerzhouI will try to complete the BP before BSS release03:51
hongbinthx03:52
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hongbinok, sounds like we finish the agenda of the meeting03:52
hongbinany last minute remark?03:52
hongbinseems no, all thanks for joining the meeting, have a good day03:52
hongbin#endmeeting03:52
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samPhi all for masakari o/04:00
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rkmrHonjohi04:01
samPhi o/04:01
samPlets start the meeting.. others can join later04:02
sagarahi04:02
samP#startmeeting masakari04:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 04:02:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:02
samPHi all..o/04:02
abhishekk0/04:02
samPLets start with Bugs..04:03
samP#topic critical bugs04:03
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samPdo we have any bugs need to be discussed here?04:03
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sagaranothing04:05
rkmrHonjono.04:05
samPrkmrHonjo: Destructive testing patches are ready to review?04:05
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samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:add-stepler-tests-alt Destructive testing04:06
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samPrkmrHonjo: ^^04:07
rkmrHonjosamP: Yes, please check it.04:07
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samPrkmrHonjo: thank you, I will review them04:07
rkmrHonjosamP: thanks.04:07
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samPif no other topics for bugs or patches, let move to discussion04:07
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samP#topic Discussion04:08
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Dinesh_BhorHi, I have some doubts about implementing devstack support for masakari-monitors04:09
samPI wrote down some scenarios for recovery method customization04:09
samPYes, Dinesh_Bhor; go ahead04:09
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Dinesh_BhorsamP: will it be a responsibility of devstack script to install pacemaker for host-monitoring?04:10
samPDinesh_Bhor: Well, otherwise it will be a manual work, right?04:11
Dinesh_BhorsamP: yes,04:11
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samPDinesh_Bhor: If we gonna build fully automated testing system with devstack, then devstack script should install and configure pacemaker  for compute nodes04:12
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Dinesh_BhorsamP: ok, thanks04:13
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samPDinesh_Bhor: Sorry, not "if", sooner or later we have to do that04:13
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samPDinesh_Bhor: so, I prefer devstack script to handle pacemaker  and corosync install and config04:14
Dinesh_BhorsamP: ok thnaks, I will start working on it04:15
samPDinesh_Bhor: thanks04:15
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samPso, I wrote some recovery method customization scenarios04:16
samP#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-recovery-method-customization04:16
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samPPlease put your comment, suggestions, or questions in etherpad or ML04:17
sagarathank you for writing that spec04:18
Dinesh_BhorsamP: yes, will do04:18
Dinesh_BhorsamP: thanks04:18
samPthanks..04:19
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Dinesh_BhorYesterday I talked with requirements team, according to them the library to be added in global requirements doesn't have to official04:19
Dinesh_BhorIt just needs to fulfil requirements addition criteria04:20
samPDinesh_Bhor: great.. that's good news04:20
Dinesh_Bhor#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/README.rst#n26504:20
samPDinesh_Bhor: what would that be?04:20
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samPDinesh_Bhor: ah.. thanks04:20
samPI can see some problems here,04:22
Dinesh_BhorsamP: which are those?04:22
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samPdistros pkgs04:23
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samP#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/README.rst#n29904:25
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samPBut, we can discuss about this with packaging team.04:25
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Dinesh_BhorsamP: ok, that will be great04:26
samPDinesh_Bhor: let's start to add masakariclients to global-req, in the meantime or once they ask us to add masakariclient to distro, then we can do that04:28
samPOK then, any other points to discuss?04:29
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rkmrHonjosamP: Can you fix the version name of pypi? Those are still "*.devX".04:29
samPrkmrHonjo: ah..yes04:29
rkmrHonjosamP: thank you.04:30
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samP#action samP Fix pip package version and add pypi jobs04:30
samP#topic AOB04:31
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samPany other things?04:31
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rkmrHonjono.04:32
Dinesh_Bhornothing from my side04:32
samPif not, we can finish little bit early..04:32
sagaranothing04:32
samPOk then, thank you for your time...04:32
Dinesh_Bhorthank you all04:33
sagarathank you04:33
samPlet's finish here and move to opentack-masakari04:33
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rkmrHonjothank you all04:33
samPthanks....04:33
samP#endmeeting04:33
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chenying#startmeeting karbor09:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 09:02:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'karbor'09:02
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zhonghuahi09:02
chenyinghi09:02
edisonxianghi09:02
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chenyingHi all, welcome to Karbor's weekly meeting09:03
zhonghua:)09:03
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zengchenhi09:03
chenyingThere is no topic on the agenda right now09:04
chenyingDo you have anything want to talk about ?09:04
chenying#topic Open Discussion09:04
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chenyingSo I have two things want to talk about. :D09:05
chenyingThere are several tasks about documention in karbor’s pike goals.09:05
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chenyinghttps://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-pike09:05
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chenyingProtection Developer Guide; Bank Developer Guide; Protectable Developer Guide09:05
chenyingNow these tasks don't have assignee. So if anyone want to start these works.09:06
chenyingPlease assign your name to these tasks, thanks.09:06
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chenyingwaiting chenhuayi09:06
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zhonghuadoes it include the reference implementation or only document writing?09:07
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chenyingonly document writing.09:07
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chenyingwe already have  reference implementation about them.09:08
chenyingAnother thing:09:09
chenyingThere are lots of open patches in karbor's  gerrit review site, so we need more reviews about these patches.09:09
chenyingHope we can spend more time in reviewing.09:09
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chenhuayihi09:09
chenyinghi09:10
zhonghuachenying, we will talk about the next step for documents, am I right?09:10
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zhonghuaor only reminder?09:11
chenyingzhonghua: now we don't have any assignee about these documents. just reminder.09:11
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chenyingwe could talk about the detail of document in karbor's irc channel.09:12
zhonghua:(09:12
chenyingSo I have nothing to talk about now. Do you have anything want to talk about?  now is the time09:14
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edisonxiangwhat about the goal of pike?09:15
chenyinghttps://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-pike09:15
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chenyingthis link has lists the main goal of karbor in pike according to priority.09:16
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edisonxiangThanks09:18
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edisonxiangwe will finish all the features in the Pike09:18
edisonxiangis it?09:18
chenyingSo if you want to add any more feature/BP to pike version of karbor, we could discuss it in karbor's irc meeting.09:18
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edisonxiangok09:19
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chenyingedisonxiang: I don't think all of these works could be finished in pike. We can try our best to finish the task in high/m priority.09:20
chenyingAnd then we could start the work in low priority.09:20
edisonxiangwhen is the Feature freezing time ?09:21
edisonxiangfor pike09:21
edisonxiangAugust? July? June?09:21
chenyinghttps://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html  you can reference the schedule time  in this link.09:25
chenyingJun 05 - Jun 09 Pike-2 milestone karbor spec freeze in this time.09:26
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chenhuayithe schedule is helpful.09:26
chenyingPike-3 milestone  Feature Freeze09:27
edisonxiangunderstood. Thanks09:27
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chenhuayiwhen the path for "remove heat" merge?09:28
chenyingchenhuayi I don't think that your network patches need waiting the  "remove heat" merge.09:29
chenhuayithe network plugins will conflict09:29
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chenhuayiso I hope the network plugins merge sooner the better.09:30
chenyingchenhuayi I agree with you.09:30
chenyingSo do you have anything want to talk about now?09:31
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chenhuayithat's all.09:32
chenyingthank you all for attending09:32
chenying#endmeeting09:32
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Qiming#startmeeting senlin13:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 13:00:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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XueFengLiuhi,QiMing13:01
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ruijieevening :)13:01
yanyanhuhi, evening13:01
Qimingevening, guys13:01
XueFengLiuevening:)13:01
Qimingpls add items to the agenda if you have things to talk about13:02
Qiming#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Weekly_Senlin_.28Clustering.29_meeting13:02
Qiming#topic pike work items13:02
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Qiming#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-pike-workitems13:03
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QimingAPI errors check, no seeing any patches13:03
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QimingI will do that13:05
QimingVDU profile, not seeing progress from ethan13:05
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QimingCLUSTER_CHECK improvement, still there for review13:06
QimingI was hoping a revision that makes some actions self destroyable13:07
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XueFengLiuQiming13:07
XueFengLiuself destroyable in db layer or in senlin ?13:07
Qimingin db layer13:08
Qimingor else the logic propagates to many places13:08
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XueFengLiuok13:08
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Qiminga NODE_CHECK can be maked transient13:09
Qimingand it will remove itself from the dependency table after sucessfully completed13:09
QimingNode adoption: two patches for review13:09
Qimingstill stuck at API endpoint13:10
Qimingbasically, node_adopt_preview and node_adopt are two different operations13:10
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Qimingbecause the first one should return the (complete) spec of the profile to be created, while13:10
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Qimingthe second will return the node properties after a successful adoption13:11
Qimingso ... the first api may eventually land at /v1/profiles/adopt, and the second may eventually land at /v1/nodes/adopt13:11
Qimingneither one looks decent13:12
Qimingwould like to know your opinions13:12
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XueFengLiuok, spend time to review13:12
Qimingthe question I raised is not yet there for review13:13
Qimingthe two patches are some basic mechanisms for node adoption13:13
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Qimingnext thing is about scaling improvement13:13
Qimingrui jie is onto it13:13
Ruijie_yes, its in good progress now :)13:14
Qimingthe plan is to do an optional health check (by invoking node.do_check() directly) before a scale-in operation13:14
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Qimingit makes good senses to me because this is solving a practical problem without introducing a lot of disruptive changes13:15
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Qimingnext thing to work on is to do an optional converge to the (last) desired_capacity13:16
Qimingit is also a wanted feature13:16
Qimingabout RDO prep, XueFengLiu any update?13:16
XueFengLiuIn process13:16
Qimingalright13:17
Qimingpls let team know when there are new progress13:17
Qiminghealth management13:17
XueFengLiuOk, I will13:17
Qimingmistral workflow work is stagnated, we need hands on it13:18
XueFengLiuyes13:18
QimingI don't think the neutron LB problem has a quick fix13:18
Qimingmaybe we should put fencing support back to FEATURES.rst13:18
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Qimingfencing physical nodes are desirable, but we may need some IPMI logics to get that done13:20
Qimingfencing virtual machine is already there, i.e. a forced delete13:20
QimingTempest tests13:20
QimingXueFengLiu is on it13:20
Qiminghowever, my perceiption is that there were some misunderstandings about cloud_backend13:20
XueFengLiuyes, start recently13:20
yanyanhuyes, seems so :)13:20
XueFengLiuen13:20
Qimingbut the logics proposed are still very valuable for sovling integration test problems13:20
yanyanhuI guess we don't need this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455331/13:20
XueFengLiuI read the readme.rst13:20
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Qimingfeel free to propose clarifications or documentation anywhere13:21
yanyanhucreating of new key and network is only required for integration test I feel13:21
XueFengLiuIt did not mention cloud_backend13:21
Qimingdon't hesitate don't feel shy about english, team can help you polish it13:21
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Qimingor you can report a bug and let me know, I can help fix the doc13:22
yanyanhuXueFengLiu, that is our fault to forget to mention it :)13:22
XueFengLiu:)13:22
XueFengLiuSome where we have add the cloud_backend conf13:23
QimingI believe it has been documented: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/senlin/developer/testing.html13:23
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XueFengLiuBut not in tempest readme.rst13:23
XueFengLiuyes13:23
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Qimingfeel free to add a pointer then13:24
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XueFengLiuok. will add13:24
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Qimingabout CLUSTER_RECOVER and LB policy, Ruijie_ still have proposals?13:25
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Ruijie_np Qiming, will revise it when doing current bp13:25
Qimingokay, so will leave the item there13:25
Ruijie_I thought it too simple before13:25
Qiming:) nothing is simple in real life13:26
Ruijie_the node.status=WARNING need to be handled in several places..13:26
Qimingyep13:27
Qimingbetter think it through before introducing piecemeal changes13:27
Qimingas for NFV work, haiwei has been working on it13:27
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Qiminghere is the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449471/13:28
Qimingwhen he worked on this he also found a concurrency bug13:28
QimingI believe he is solving it13:29
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Qimingthat's all I have on the etherpad items13:29
Qiminganything to add?13:29
XueFengLiuno from me13:30
Qimingokay, moving on13:30
Qiming#topic pike-1 release13:30
XueFengLiuok13:30
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QimingI'm planning to cut a p-1 release tomorrow13:31
Qiminghowever, bad things happened13:31
Qimingour gate is broken13:31
Qimingwe have just stood up py35 gate jobs13:31
XueFengLiuyes, seems problem with py3513:31
Qimingthe gate is failing us, which means no patch can be validated for merge13:31
QimingI spent some time just now looking into the logs13:32
Qimingit seems that we have glance-api failing during devestack installation13:32
yanyanhuthe change in gate side has been merged?13:32
Qimingyes13:32
Qimingyanyanhu,13:32
yanyanhuthe patch for enabling py35 test13:32
yanyanhucould be devstack's problem?13:32
Qimingthe glance store by default is using swift as its backend13:33
Qimingand ... swift is not yet py35 ready13:33
yanyanhusigh...13:33
Qimingso ... need some fix to disable glance install13:33
Qimingfor api and functional tests, we need nothing13:33
XueFengLiucan we remove py35 in gate side?13:34
Qimingthere must be a way to disable all them13:34
Qimingwe can set it to non-voting13:34
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Qimingif you are interested, you can check the log here: http://logs.openstack.org/75/455575/1/gate/gate-senlin-dsvm-tempest-py35-api/66595c2/logs/screen-g-api.txt.gz13:35
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Qimingglance is trying to invoke swift ...13:35
XueFengLiuyes13:35
XueFengLiuI saw it13:36
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yanyanhuone possible way is to define which services we want to install specificly in job template, rather then using default list. But this is not recommened13:36
XueFengLiuSo why we support py35 recently?13:36
XueFengLiuCan we do this work later?13:36
Qimingit is a pike cycle goal for the whole community13:36
yanyanhuyou need to carefully add every depedencies one by one13:36
yanyanhuso it could be easy to make mistake and then fail the devstack installation...13:37
Qiminganother cross-community goal is to have senlin-api deployed as a wsgi module13:37
QimingI have checked our gate job script13:37
Qimingwe didn't do it very "carefully"13:37
yanyanhucurrently, we just use default list plus extra services we need13:38
Qiminge.g. http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/senlin.yaml#n3713:38
Qimingthis line may have glance installed, and possibly swift13:38
Qimingor swift wasn't installed ... so glance is getting connection refused error13:39
yanyanhubut without it, heat installation will fail13:39
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yanyanhusince it is not in default project_list13:39
Qimingand we were installing nova components using this line, right?13:40
yanyanhuso git_clone won't work...13:40
yanyanhuno13:40
yanyanhuthis is only for heat13:40
XueFengLiuYes, this need a  repeated attempts to conf local.conf13:40
yanyanhusince heat is installed as a plugin13:40
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Qimingthen how nova gets installed?13:41
yanyanhubut nova/neutron/glance/cinder/keystone are not13:41
yanyanhuthose services are in default list13:41
yanyanhuthey will get installed by default13:41
yanyanhuin default project_list13:41
XueFengLiuyes13:41
yanyanhuso git_clone works with them13:41
XueFengLiunova/cinder/glance/neutron/keystone13:42
yanyanhueven you don't add them to project_list manually13:42
yanyanhubut heat is not...13:42
Qimingright, project list is the problem I was suspecting13:42
XueFengLiuen13:42
yanyanhuthat's why we enable it explicitly and add it to project_list13:42
Qimingif you compare this to heat.yaml13:42
Qiminghttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/heat.yaml#n5013:42
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Qimingthey enable each and every service explicitly13:43
yanyanhuQiming, heat's job template is special :) they define all required services specificly using OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES13:43
Qimingokay, that is a good trick13:43
yanyanhuwe tried this way, but per Andreas's suggestion, we'd better using default list + extra ones required13:43
yanyanhuso we changed it back :)13:43
QimingI was really curious why glance store was set to swift13:44
Qimingand where13:44
yanyanhucould be in glance devstack plugin?13:44
yanyanhunot sure... but that sounds weird...13:44
Qimingyes, but I am not seeing any projects gate job explicitly overwriting it13:45
Qimingonly when s-api is enabled will devstack set the backend to swift13:45
Qimingthat brings me back to the services set up13:45
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Qimingbecause swift is known to be bad wrt py3513:46
Qimingwe need to exclude it13:46
Qiming  http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/heat.yaml#n6413:46
yanyanhuhonestly, I do expect a service_exlcude support in devstack gate...13:47
yanyanhujust found there isn't such feature after searching...13:47
Qimingthat is beyond our control and I don't think we have extra bandwidth on fixing it that way13:47
Qimingany way13:47
yanyanhuthey only support "services+=", but no "services-="...13:48
yanyanhuso the only way is what heat is using now...13:48
yanyanhuusing OVERRIDE_ENABLED_SERVICES13:48
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Qimingright, we have returned to the same problem now13:49
yanyanhuyes...13:49
Qimingwill try set the py35 gate nv tomorrow13:49
Qimingthen cut p-1 release13:49
yanyanhuok13:49
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Qimingare you aware of any high priority bugs to fix?13:49
Qimingexcept for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/+bug/168162013:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1681620 in senlin "ACTION failed when can't get the cluster lock" [Critical,New]13:49
yanyanhunope from me...13:50
XueFengLiuLet me see the bug list13:51
Qimingokay13:51
Qiming#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/13:51
Qiming#topic open discussions13:51
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Qimingsince neither xinhui or elynn is in13:51
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QimingI'm not sure anyone else have summit proposals to discuss13:52
XueFengLiuI and haiwei in prepare for the proposal13:52
yanyanhuok, maybe next week. Only 3 weeks left?13:52
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Qimingyep13:53
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Qimingif you need help on polish it, pls share with the team13:53
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XueFengLiusure, we will13:53
Qimingcool13:54
Qiminganything else?13:54
yanyanhunope13:54
XueFengLiuDepends on adoption patch in senlin and the patch in tacker13:54
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Qimingokay13:54
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Qimingyour work has a hard dependency on node adoption?13:55
XueFengLiunot hard dependency13:55
XueFengLiu:)13:56
XueFengLiuIf we have the feature, we can show it better13:56
* Qiming feeling a little bit relieved13:56
Qimingyou will have it before the summit13:57
XueFengLiu:)13:57
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XueFengLiuok, greate13:57
Qimingso, please review, :D13:57
XueFengLiusure, I will13:57
XueFengLiuThanks Qiming for the hard work13:58
Qimingguess that's all for today?13:58
yanyanhuseems so13:58
yanyanhu:)13:58
XueFengLiuno more from me13:58
Qimingthank you all for joining, take back your two minutes13:58
Qiminggood night13:58
Qiming#endmeeting13:58
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yanyanhugood night13:58
Ruijie_good night :)13:58
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jlibosva#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 14:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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jlibosvaHi everyone!14:00
mlavalleo/14:00
dasmo/14:00
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jlibosva#topic Announcements14:00
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ralonsohhi14:00
john-davidgehi14:00
annphi14:00
jlibosvaRegarding Boston summit, there are already topics for The Forum14:00
jlibosvahttp://forumtopics.openstack.org/14:01
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jlibosvaNext announcement is that TC elections are gonna start soon14:01
jlibosvahttps://governance.openstack.org/election/#pike-tc-candidates14:01
bcafarelhello14:01
jlibosvaand that's all I had :)14:01
jlibosvaanybody else wants to announce something?14:01
dasmone more thing. this is Pike-1 release week14:01
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jlibosvahttps://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#p-114:02
dasmso, around Thu, we will cut it. AFAIR it won't change anything, with development.14:02
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jlibosvabeside flipping bugs set to milestone 1 to milestone 2 maybe14:02
jlibosvadasm: thanks for that announcement14:03
jlibosvaanything else?14:03
jlibosva#topic Blueprints14:03
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jlibosvaso as it was said, we are still before p1 cut14:04
jlibosvahttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/pike-114:04
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jlibosvaI think those blueprints that didn't make it to p1 will be rescheduled14:04
jlibosvaanybody has anything that blocks the work on blueprint that is worth highlighting here?14:04
annpyes, i have one.14:05
jlibosvagood14:05
annpFor the logging api spec link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509 this spec has been updated more than 4 week ago. However we didn’t get any review or comments. So I’d like to get more attention on that.14:05
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jlibosvaannp: do you know if it was discussed on the drivers mtg?14:06
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annpjlibosva: I don't know.14:06
jlibosvaannp: ok, I'll try to sync with somebody from drivers and remind that one14:07
annpDo you have any news from drivers mtg?14:07
annpjlibosva: thank you. :)14:07
jlibosva#action jlibosva to sync with drivers about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146836614:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1468366 in neutron "[RFE] (Operator-only) Logging API for security group rules" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Nguyen Phuong An (annp)14:07
hichiharaIt looks like the spec should be reviewed and given +1 by ovs and ovn folks.14:07
jlibosvaI should also read as it's realted to ovs fw :)14:08
jlibosvaannp: thanks for bringing this up14:08
jlibosvaanybody else has anything?14:08
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jlibosva#topic Bugs and gate failures14:09
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amotokihi, sorry for late14:09
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annpjlibosva, hichihara: thanks for your support. :)14:09
jlibosvaamotoki: hi :)14:09
* ihrachys says late hi14:09
jlibosvayou were the bug deputy last week?14:10
amotokiyeah, I was a bug deputy last week, but it was a quiet week.14:10
jlibosvawe like quiet weeks :)14:10
mlavalle++14:10
jlibosvaamotoki: so nothing to report, right?14:11
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amotokiyeah, I have nothing to raise.14:11
jlibosvagood14:11
jlibosvaso we can pick volunteer for this week if hasn't been picked on the last meeting14:12
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jlibosvaanybody wants to take the role this week?14:12
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jlibosvaotherwise I guess I can take it with hope it's gonna be yet another quite week :)14:13
trevormcI can do it14:13
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jlibosvatrevormc: ah, cool! thanks for stepping up14:13
jlibosva#info trevormc is bug deputy for week of Apr 1014:13
dasmtrevormc: you've saved jlibosva :)14:13
amotokianybody for the next week?14:14
jlibosvaseems like quite weeks are attractive :)14:14
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ihrachysnow you know how to lurk people into a trap14:14
jlibosvanobody for next week? I can take it if nobody wants14:14
jlibosvaok, sold to me14:15
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jlibosva#info jlibosva is bug deputy for week of Apr 1714:15
jlibosvaI guess we can move on then14:16
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jlibosva#topic Docs14:16
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jlibosvajohn-davidge: yo14:16
john-davidgejlibosva: yo14:16
jlibosvajohn-davidge: any updates from the docs team14:16
john-davidgeAs well as the regular mentions of continuing progress on the OSC and RFC 5737 fronts, I'd like to draw the team's attention to - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445536/14:17
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john-davidgeIt's a new governance tag concerning cooperation with the openstack-manuals team to publish and maintain docs14:17
john-davidgeThe neutron team is already actively involved in most or all of the required activities, but it's something to keep an eye on as there will now be requirements to get the tag14:18
jlibosvajohn-davidge: is that all for docs?14:20
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john-davidgejlibosva: That's it14:20
amotokiI also filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1675840 on OSC migration.14:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675840 in openstack-manuals "CLI reference of networking commands should be generated from OSC" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to fupingxie (fpxie)14:20
jlibosvajohn-davidge: ok, thanks for updates14:20
amotokiI asked the docs team to generate networking commands referneces based on OSC plugins.14:21
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jlibosvaamotoki: thanks14:21
amotokiwe don't need to hurry, but it is nice to generate CLI reference for advanced networking services.14:21
john-davidgeamotoki: Thank's, it helpful to track that separately from the Networking Guide chnages14:22
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ni291187which meeting is currently going on?14:23
jlibosvani291187: networking14:23
jlibosvait's in the topic for this channel14:23
ni291187thanks14:23
amotokini291187: aka the neutron team meeting14:23
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jlibosvaI think we can move on to the next topic unless somebody wants to share something regarding docs14:24
mlavalleaka the Neutrinos14:24
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jlibosvalet's move on14:24
jlibosva#topic Transition to OSC14:24
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jlibosvaamotoki: hi again :)14:24
reedip_o/14:24
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amotokiOSC migration is a good progress14:24
reedip_looks like I came at the right time :)14:24
amotokii would like to share this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ueCvIKUfpUaLFm_3YTT4MkuTV-PYIdeErnt7Wleshl0/edit#gid=014:25
amotoki8 remaining commands.  4 are related to L3 agent management and it is in good progress14:25
amotokiremaining 3 commands are related to 'tag'.14:25
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amotokiI think the work is stuck a bit and will check the progress this week14:26
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amotokiif necessary I will work on it including SDK support14:26
reedip_amotoki : I can help out with tag if required14:27
jlibosvaamotoki: does stuck mean it's blocked by anything?14:27
jlibosvaor just lacks traction?14:27
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amotokijlibosva: I don't see a progress for a while14:27
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amotokiartur is assigned to this, but after discussion at PTG we needed to refresh the work completely.14:28
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ihrachysartur?14:28
amotokiI discussed with OSC core team and we changed the approach14:28
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amotokii might be wrong. let me check14:29
jlibosvahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/396727/ ?14:29
jlibosvaAnkur :)14:29
ihrachysmakes sense14:29
amotokisorry typo14:29
reedip_amotoki : I can discuss with ankur and help him out with this ...14:29
amotokiokay, I will follow it up14:30
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jlibosva#action reedip_ to sync with ankur about neutronclient OSC tags support14:30
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hichiharaI should review it too ;)14:31
amotokireedip_: let's check the current status after the meeting14:31
jlibosvait sounds like the approach is gonna be different, right? so we currently don't have any patch to review14:31
reedip_amotoki : sure14:31
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jlibosvaamotoki: reedip_ thanks!14:32
jlibosvaI guess we can jump to the next topic, right?14:32
amotokijlibosva: sure14:32
jlibosvaI saw boden connected, are you already here?14:32
bodenhi yes14:32
jlibosvacool :)14:32
jlibosva#topic Neutron-lib and planned neutron refactoring14:32
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bodenneutron-lib 1.4.0 was recently released. thanks to all who helped including dasm and ihrachys14:32
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bodenamong other things 1.4.0 contains a change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453063/) that may help subprojects adopt the db facade14:33
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bodenalso lib 1.4.0 also syncs up the callbacks from neutron; expect to see lib impact changes that start moving us onto lib's callbacks soon14:34
bodenfinally there's a handful of patches that could use some review lovin on the queue (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lib+status:open)14:34
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bodenif no questions/comments I don’t have anything else worth noting at the moment14:35
jlibosvaboden: thanks for updates14:35
ihrachysthanks for working on it boden14:35
mlavalleboden: did you mean to draw attention to a couple of reviews? whick ones?14:35
ihrachyswe can now unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446730/ right?14:35
hichiharaboden: Good work!14:35
ihrachysnow that we have a release14:35
ihrachyswith disabled log translation enforcement14:36
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amotokiihrachys: i think so14:36
ihrachysok will do14:36
bodenihrachys: sounds reasonable14:36
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hichiharaMaster branch is still 1.3.0 https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/requirements.txt#L1814:36
jlibosvadoes it mean we'll need to remove all translations from Neutron before next neutron-lib release?14:37
amotokihichihara: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455286/14:37
ihrachysjlibosva, kinda14:37
ihrachysjlibosva, alternative being disabling the new check for the time being14:37
jlibosvaoh, I see there is already a patch for it :)14:37
ihrachysif we see we can't make it14:37
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hichiharaamotoki: cool!14:37
amotokiwe need to wait a bit14:38
hichiharaRight14:38
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jlibosvaanything else to be added for neutron-lib topic?14:39
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bodennothing from me14:39
jlibosvathere was no topic added to "On demand agenda"14:39
jlibosva#topic Open discussion14:39
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jlibosvaanybody wants to discuss any topic here?14:40
jlibosvawe have 20 minutes :)14:40
amotokiI have small announcements for the team14:40
jlibosvaamotoki: stage is yours14:40
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amotokithe one is about neutron stadium project dashbaord http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115200.html14:40
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amotokiperhaps we will go to a route that each project has a corresponding dashboard project14:41
amotokithe other thing is also related to the dashboard.14:41
amotokiDropping nova-network support in horizon: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115194.html14:41
amotokiit seems no objection on dropping nova-net support in pike from horizon.14:42
robcresswell+1, you have my full support :)14:42
john-davidgeHooray! \o/14:42
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amotokithis topic also raises us an interesting topic: how client python binding should be.14:42
amotokiif you are interested in the topic, check the thread!14:43
amotokithat's all from me.14:43
jlibosvathanks amotoki14:43
jlibosvaand yay for deprecating nova-network horizon support14:44
jlibosva:)14:44
jlibosvas/depracating/dropping14:44
amotokineutron will be the world of networking? :)14:44
ihrachysit is already14:45
ihrachyssome just haven't noticed14:45
mlavalleihrachys: you got it ++14:45
ihrachysthat rock they live under must be heavy14:45
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reedip_amotoki : that also means changes in OSC for nova-network ( maybe in Q cycle ) , isnt it?14:46
amotokireedip_: no14:46
amotokireedip_: dtroyer is working on its own support of nova-net in OSC as shade does14:47
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reedip_oh , maybe I missed that part, thanks :)14:48
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amotokireedip_: you should check the side discussion on python binding on the horizon thread above14:48
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jlibosvaso unless there is another topic to discuss I think we can end earlier and spend those 15 minutes more effectively :)14:48
jlibosvawell, 10 minuts14:49
reedip_ok amotoki .. thanks for the headsup :)14:49
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jlibosvaok, thanks all for showing up :)14:49
jlibosvakeep up the good work14:49
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amotokiwe can focus on P-1 :)14:49
jlibosva#endmeeting14:49
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ralonsoh#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 15:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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ralonsohhi15:00
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ralonsohslawek is not going to attend15:01
ralonsohbut I have his updates15:01
ralonsohlet's start15:01
davidshaHi15:01
ralonsoh#topic RFEs15:01
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ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=qos+rfe+&field.tags_combinator=ALL RFEs15:01
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/150562715:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)15:01
ralonsohreedip_: are you still working on this spec?15:02
ralonsohthere are some comments not addressed15:02
reedip_ralonsoh : I was, but couldnt give too much time right now. I will reiterate over it this week.15:02
ralonsohno problem, so it's on hold15:02
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ralonsohI know you have other patches ongoing15:03
ralonsohnext one15:03
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159661115:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:03
ralonsohThis spec needs another iteration15:03
ralonsohIMO, it's almost finished, but we need to review it again15:03
ralonsohSome small nits15:03
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ralonsohPlease, spend a bit of time taking a look a it15:04
ralonsoh(it's a problem we don't have any submitter here)15:04
ralonsohnext one15:04
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/163922015:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1639220 in neutron "[RFE] Introduce Network QoS policy "is_default" behaviour" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:04
ralonsohI refactored the code, based in some comments from kevinbenton15:05
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ralonsohAll tests are passing and I made some manual testing. It's working15:05
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ralonsohSo, the same, please take a bit of time to review it15:05
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ralonsohnext one15:06
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096115:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:06
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ralonsohI talk to slaweq. The first patch is there, implementing the API15:06
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ralonsohThere are some problems with tempest tests, but I think it's related with the client version15:07
ralonsohBut the code is almost finished. Then we need to start the implementation of any of the backends15:07
ralonsohWe will discuss which one should be the first one15:08
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ralonsohok, next one15:08
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158605615:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:08
ralonsohthe same: the code is finished. Reviews please!15:09
ralonsohthe last one ( mlavalle )15:09
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157898915:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:09
ralonsohmlavalle: how the investigation about the nova API is going?15:09
davidsharalonsoh: is the patch not merged already for validation?15:10
mlavalleIt's going well15:10
davidsharalonsoh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323474/15:10
mlavalleyou saw the comment I left in the bug15:10
mlavallethe only caveat is that the nova team is implementing nested resources in this cycle15:10
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ralonsohmlavalle: which one?15:11
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mlavalleralonsoh: I think I left it in the spec15:12
ralonsohmlavalle: I'll take a look today15:12
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ralonsohdavidsha: that was a mistake.  bug 1586056 shouldn't be in this list. Thanks!15:12
openstackbug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1586056 - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:12
mlavalleralonsoh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/15:12
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ralonsohmlavalle: perfect, I'll take a look later and we can talk via IRC15:13
mlavalleralonsoh: what I really want the team to look at is http://paste.openstack.org/show/605573/15:14
mlavalleralonsoh: but I am moving ahead with coding15:14
davidsharalonsoh: Actually I was just looking, it has a follow up, but it probably should be another bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426946/15:14
ralonsohdavidsha: yes, that was listed before, in the RFEs15:15
ralonsohmlavalle: I know the placement API and os-traits are still in progress15:16
ralonsohmlavalle: this will delay our development15:16
mlavallecool15:16
ralonsohmlavalle: we need to deal with this, no problem15:16
mlavalleI faced the same situation with routed networks15:17
mlavalleand I developed in parallel with them15:17
ralonsohok, I think we can move to next topic.15:17
ralonsohmlavalle: yes, for sure15:17
mlavalleso by the time they were done, we were also done15:17
mlavallewe can do the same here15:17
mlavalleas long as I know what the calls looks like15:17
mlavallewhich is the case15:17
ralonsohmlavalle: and ping me if you need help with some coding or reviews15:18
mlavalleyeap, will do15:18
ralonsohAm I missing something in this topic?15:18
ralonsohRFE's15:18
ralonsohok, next topic15:18
ralonsoh#topic Bugs15:18
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ralonsohThree easy ones related15:19
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168172815:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1681728 in neutron "QoS rule object should be manage in QosRule metaclass" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:19
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168144015:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1681440 in neutron "QoS policy object can't be suitable with 1.2 version of object" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:19
ralonsohand15:19
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167730315:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1677303 in neutron "QoS policy object should not raise an exception for version degradation < 1.3" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:19
ralonsohdavidsha wrote a bug including all of them, but ihrachys suggested to split them in smaller ones15:20
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ralonsohAll of them are implemented, just waiting for reviews15:20
ralonsohBTW, easy ones!!15:20
ralonsohnext one15:21
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167687715:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1676877 in neutron "Increase "TestQosPlugin.test_update_policy_rule" coverage" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)15:21
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ralonsohreedip: how is going?15:21
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ralonsohok, I'll try to ping reedip_ a bit later15:22
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reedip_ralonsoh : hi , just joined, network issue !15:22
ralonsohbut this bug should be easy to implement. There are some cases in QOS testing to be covered15:23
reedip_I will pick it up this week,will push a ptch by thursday15:23
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ralonsohreedip_: perfect, very fast! thanks15:23
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ralonsohand the last one (in my list)15:24
ralonsohhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165738115:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657381 in neutron "QoS drivers need to implement a precommit for the actions" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:24
ralonsohThat was ajo's patch, but I continued his progress15:24
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ralonsohreedip_ made some comments, but I think the patch is almost ready to be merged15:25
ralonsohbut, of course, reviews are welcome15:25
reedip_did I ( I forgot :) )15:25
ralonsohhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/421818/15:25
ralonsohThis one15:26
mlavalleralonsoh: I'll review it today15:26
ralonsohthanks!15:26
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mlavallejust starred it15:26
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ralonsohI don't have any other bug in the list (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair)15:26
ralonsohsomething is missing here?15:27
reedip_slaweq, ralonsoh : if there is no issue, can I take this up after my bug submissions?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419642/15:27
ralonsohlet me check it...15:27
reedip_https://launchpad.net/bugs/164951715:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:27
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ralonsohoh, yes15:27
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ralonsohthis is a low-priority one15:28
ralonsohbut15:28
ralonsohit should be nice to have it, of course15:28
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ralonsohI'll add it to our list now15:28
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ralonsohperfect, more items in this topic?15:29
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reedip_ralonsoh : ok, I will see if slaweq doesnt push something by the time I finish my patches, I will take it up.15:29
reedip_ralonsoh : none from my side15:29
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ralonsohreedip_: you can talk together to take this patch, I know slaweq will have no problem15:30
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reedip_ralonsoh : ok :)15:30
ralonsohI'll skip the topic "other changes"15:30
ralonsohlast topic15:30
ralonsoh#topic Open Discussion15:30
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mlavalleI have a question regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426946/15:31
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mlavalleIs ajo going to review it?15:31
ralonsohajo is on annual leave this week15:31
ralonsohping him next one (not on monday, it's bank holiday in Spain)15:32
mlavalleok, my only point is that if he doesn't have the time, I am ready to merge it15:32
ralonsohI know this patch is waiting only for him....15:32
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reedip_mlavalle : I think that patch needs a reno15:33
mlavallereedip_: that may be15:33
ralonsohhmmm, I don't think so15:33
reedip_I mentioned that in the patch but I think it got overlooked :P15:34
mlavallemy only point is that during the last meeting I felt the team wanted to move ahead with this pacthset15:34
ralonsohyou are not modifying the current behaviour15:34
ralonsohmlavalle: yes, we need this one, it's important to assure the correct behaviour of qos15:34
mlavalleso, I'll wait until the end of next week15:35
mlavalleI'll ping ajo15:35
mlavalleearly in the week15:35
ralonsohI'll put this in my calendar15:35
mlavalleif by the end, it hasn't been reviewed by him, I'll approve15:35
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ralonsohmlavalle: thank you!15:35
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ralonsohok, I think we are done15:36
ralonsohI'll close the meeting15:36
ralonsoh#endmeeting15:36
mlavalleo/15:36
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr 11 15:36:38 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:36
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-04-11-15.00.txt15:36
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-04-11-15.00.log.html15:36
ralonsohthank you very much guys!15:36
davidshaThanks!15:36
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reedip_oh its over ?15:39
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davidshareedip_: yup15:40
reedip_lol15:40
reedip_thanks15:40
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reedip_thanks davidsha15:41
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ihrachys#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 16:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'16:00
ihrachys#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronCI Agenda16:00
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ihrachyshi everyone16:01
jlibosvao/hello16:01
haleybhi16:01
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ihrachys#topic Action items from prev meeting16:02
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ihrachysfirst is still "ihrachys fix e-r bot not reporting in irc channel", and the status is the same - no progress on that one16:03
ihrachysUnless someone wants to take it over, I will drop it from the list of actions to chase here, and will report when I actually get there (I track that by other means)16:03
ihrachysit never comes to the point when I prioritize it16:04
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jlibosvaI can take a look16:04
ihrachysok nice, thanks16:04
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ihrachysnext was "ihrachys to report bugs for fullstack race in ovs agent when calling to enable_connection_uri" and it's still on me, but I will get there for sure, I saw the issue in non-test env16:05
ihrachys#action ihrachys to report bugs for fullstack race in ovs agent when calling to enable_connection_uri16:05
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ihrachysnext was "haleyb or mlavalle to report back on ha+dvr plan after l3 meeting"16:06
ihrachysI remember l3 team should have discussed that right?16:06
mlavalleihrachys: correct16:06
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/455406/16:06
mlavallewe discussed it during our meeting16:06
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ihrachyshm so it just works?16:07
haleybihrachys: plan is to move that non-voting job into the check queue to replace the dvr-multinode one16:08
ihrachyswhich is also non-voting?16:08
haleybthen if we update the grafana page we can watch it for a bit to make it voting16:08
haleybyes, the current one was -nv as well16:08
haleybi didn't want to add a 3-node job without taking something away16:09
ihrachysany reason not to include grafana update in the patch?16:09
ihrachysbut in general, have we seen it passing full run? or we will figure it out after the fact?16:10
haleybi thought that was a different repo, maybe i'm wrong16:10
ihrachyshaleyb, no, it's same see grafana/neutron.yml in project-config16:10
reedip_o\ /o16:10
haleybihrachys: oh, then i'll update that too16:11
haleybihrachys: unless we run 'check experimental' everywhere we'll never know if the job is good, the graphs over time is a better way (imo)16:12
ihrachysover time sure, but have we at least validated that it has a chance to pass?16:12
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ihrachyslast time I checked, it was consistently failing on some scheduler test16:12
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ihrachys(that may have been fixed by late tempest changes in-tree)16:13
ihrachysI mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421155/16:13
haleybihrachys: hmm, let me look16:13
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haleybah, that change, yes it would fix that bug16:14
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ihrachysok let's figure it out off-band, but my general take is, we should show that there is a pass for the job at least once  somewhere before we move to triggering it for every patch16:14
haleybi will update the grafana page and check the job in an existing patch i have16:14
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ihrachysso if you have a link to successful run would be nice to see it in the gerrit patch for config16:15
ihrachys++16:15
ihrachysthanks for working on it, I am happy we make progress on that longstanding issue (I think we started talking about it ~Newton?)16:15
ihrachysok next was "jlibosva to prepare py3 transition plan for Pike"16:16
ihrachysjlibosva, your stage16:16
jlibosvaso I didn't prepare a plan yet16:17
jlibosvabut I have done some research16:17
ihrachysshould we start some etherpad to capture whatever we have on the topic?16:17
jlibosvaand found that dims (?) already started tracking the job for all projects16:18
jlibosvahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/support-python3.5-functional-tests16:18
ihrachys:)16:18
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jlibosvawe probably want to add your functional suite there16:18
jlibosvaas it turned to catch py3 related errors in the past16:18
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ihrachysit seems like dims is tracking some tempest job for that16:19
ihrachysbut we can do more I think16:19
jlibosvaI plan to also send an rfe bug specific to neutron where we can track down issues16:19
ihrachysfor one, functional and fullstack jobs16:19
ihrachysI am not fully sure what that gate-tempest-dsvm-nova-py35-ubuntu-xenial job mentioned there is16:20
jlibosvathe links at the etherpad are outdated16:20
ihrachysaren't all dsvm jobs nova? :)16:20
ihrachysright16:20
ihrachysalso, some 'issues' are not really issues, like the one about dhcp_release616:20
ihrachys(we have it for py2 too)16:20
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ihrachysso the neutron section definitely needs some update16:21
ihrachysis the document for tracking all py3 progress or just tempest job?16:21
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ihrachysI think the answer to the question will decide if we need our own document, or we can hijack the existing one for other py3 things we could have for Pike16:21
jlibosvaI'd rather go with our document16:22
ihrachysdims, what's the intent of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/support-python3.5-functional-tests ? is it all things for py3 pike goal, or just a specific job?16:22
jlibosvajust in sake of better overview16:22
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ihrachysyeah, we can cross link16:22
ihrachysthen here you go: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py3-neutron-pike16:22
ihrachys#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py3-neutron-pike Etherpad to track py3 efforts for Pike goal16:22
jlibosvacool, thanks16:23
ihrachyslet's start capturing what you have there16:23
ihrachysand draft some high level bullet points16:23
jlibosvaI plan to look at it more closely this week16:23
ihrachyscool16:24
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ihrachys#action jlibosva to follow up on py3 plan for pike16:24
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ihrachysnext was "ihrachys to chase infra to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439114/"16:24
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ihrachysit's actually in already, so we can adopt the new dashboard for our needs16:24
ihrachysI will update the wiki page with the link to the board.16:25
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ihrachys#action ihrachys to update wiki with the link to gerrit CI dashboard16:25
ihrachysthe last one is "jlibosva document current openvswitch requirements for fullstack/functional in TESTING.rst"16:25
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jlibosvawhoa, totally missed that16:26
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ihrachysbut it's good we track those :) you have the cake for the next week then16:26
ihrachys#action jlibosva document current openvswitch requirements for fullstack/functional in TESTING.rst16:26
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ihrachysand that's about it for the action items16:27
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ihrachys#topic Patches in review16:28
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ihrachysnow that we have manjeets's change for the neutron gerrit dashboard, we can have a look what's there16:28
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ihrachysthe link to it is at the top of http://status.openstack.org/reviews/ (see Neutron link)16:28
ihrachyssadly, the link is autogenerated and is too long to copy paste here16:28
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ihrachysI see a single patch captured by it16:29
ihrachyswhich puzzles me, we should have some more16:29
ihrachys(or I think so)16:29
ihrachysI will have a look at what's missing later16:29
ihrachys#action ihrachys to figure out why gerrit dashboard seems to not show some gate-failure fixes16:29
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ihrachysmanjeets, I may need your help once/if I find missing patches, I will ping you if I do16:30
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ihrachysanyhow, we have this patch for a sporadic tempest failure on project_id missing in resource payload on first GET: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447781/16:31
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ihrachysI see amotoki had some comments on the approach there, it's not fully clear to me whether it's a concern around the patch, or a future change that may got wrong16:32
ihrachysI will personally need some more time to understand the concern of amotoki16:33
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amotokiI don't want to stick to my thought on how we can treat project_id and tenant_id equally, but I am not sure we need to treat project_id differently from tenant_id16:34
amotokibut I don't want to block this if it blocks the gate16:34
ihrachysamotoki, it's not like the issue is too pressing, it shows from time to time16:35
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ihrachysamotoki, so what would be your suggestion in this particular case to make treatment same?16:35
amotokiI am sometimes looking it but i haven't figured out what is happenng16:35
ihrachysamotoki, cross-check project_id against tenant_id rules and vice versa?16:35
amotokiIIRC in the proposed approach, project_id is checked for both project_id and tenant_id, but tenant_id is checked only for tenant_id16:36
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amotokiI think we need time to switch project-id and tenant-id and we cannot switch these two at once.16:37
ihrachysright. because project_id rules are not there (I was thinking about adding them in https://review.openstack.org/448238), and due to the nature of policy.json being a modifiable file, you can't guarantee them being there16:37
manjeetsihrachys, sure let me know16:38
amotokipersonally I would like to treat both equally to avoid unexpected behavior. that is just my point16:38
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ihrachysthough the modifiable nature is probably not an argument here, we should not pretend to support that for owner definition :)16:39
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ihrachysamotoki, ok, let's see what we can do, we'll proceed in gerrit16:39
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amotokiihrachys: sure16:39
ihrachysok, as for other patches up for review16:39
manjeetshttps://tinyurl.com/ly76lmy tiny url16:39
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ihrachysI have this https://review.openstack.org/454870 to fix a sporadic func test failure (not actually sure if it's the fix due to lack of data on failure in the branch where I spotted the failure the last time)16:40
ihrachysmanjeets, but you need to generate every time to keep it fresh16:40
ihrachysI was hoping to offload that generation matters to infra :)16:41
manjeetsyep i just generated it16:41
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ihrachysfor the func test failure, we will need to land https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ic5a3b347bea7e5aa8a5caee5035568e5954f58dc,n,z into stable branches to collect more data next time it fails there16:41
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ihrachyswe also had a nasty bug sneaked into stable branches where a network delete request could spin indefinitely in a loop spinning CPU up to 100%. That made grenade runs in master to fail sometimes with XXXNotFound errors on cleanup of resources.16:43
ihrachysit's fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1672701+message:Revert16:43
ihrachysbut we will need a new Newton release with the patch since we happily released one with regression :-x16:43
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ihrachysalso the prev week I realized that most stadium projects forked os-testr in their trees and missed some fixes from there: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:remove-subunit-trace-fork16:44
ihrachysthat made some gates e..g not fail when all tests were skipped (something that happened in lbaas)16:44
ihrachysso the patches should fix the wrong16:44
ihrachysI also have this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453212/ to simplify our api_extensions configuration in tempest.conf16:45
ihrachysthat's not pressing, but something I figured will make our lives easier since we won't need to maintain two almost identical lists of extensions for gate for DVR and non-DVR cases anymore16:46
ihrachysof other pressing issues, there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1679815 open16:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1679815 in neutron "test_router_interface_ops_bump_router fails with "AssertionError: 5 not greater than 5"" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)16:47
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ihrachysit made our unit tests crash randomly, our last bastion of stability in gate :)16:47
ihrachysthe fix landed it seems: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452691/16:47
ihrachys(or so we think, that it it's a fix)16:48
haleybi tripped over this today and rebased to master, so will know soon16:48
ihrachysI see reedip_ commented there that it hit him. :-x16:48
reedip_hey16:48
reedip_yeah16:48
ihrachysso maybe it's not a fix in the end16:48
ihrachyswill need to have another look16:49
ihrachyswe also have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1680136 spooking stable gates16:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1680136 in neutron "Stable newton gate is broken" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)16:49
ihrachyswill be fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ieef10eebd93f99404dd2fd87ccbab9b75632945a,n,z16:49
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ihrachysany other pressing patches we are aware of?16:50
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ihrachysok one more thing, we have that pike goal to switch to mod_wsgi for api16:51
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ihrachysVictor recently respinned his patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:goal-deploy-api-in-wsgi+owner:%22Victor+Morales+%253Cvictor.morales%2540intel.com%253E%2216:52
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ihrachysI haven't had a look yet but if someone has cycles, I would appreciate it16:52
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ihrachysthere is also somewhat related effort to switch to new devstack lib in gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:new-neutron-devstack-in-gate16:52
ihrachysI was hoping that the latter would go first, and then we would be able to switch to new wsgi execution mode for lib/neutron only16:53
ihrachysbut with the review pace for the devstack switch patches, I am not sure we will get there16:53
ihrachysagain, maybe spend some review cycles on that one if you have any16:53
haleybihrachys: regarding the stable/newton gate, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453741/ still hasn't merged, seems stuck16:54
ihrachysoh right. hm, why16:54
ihrachysoh I W+1 again and now it's in merge queue16:54
ihrachysgood you spotted it's stuck16:55
ihrachyswe would waste another day :)16:55
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ihrachys#topic Grafana16:55
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ihrachys#link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:55
ihrachyswe see unit tests spike, probably because of that floating_ip pagination thingy16:55
ihrachyswe will need to figure that out after the meeting16:56
ihrachysfullstack is at ~100% failure rate16:56
ihrachysjlibosva, what's the reason there still?16:56
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jlibosvaihrachys: didn't it improve after the ipconntrack patch?16:57
* ihrachys also sees that scenarios are not in shape (almost 100%)16:57
ihrachysjlibosva, that's what I thought that it will16:57
jlibosvahmm, it was merged almost 24 hrs ago16:57
jlibosvaI saw a failure in trunk but that was not consistent16:57
ihrachyswell it's not 100% exactly, more like 80% now16:57
jlibosvayeah, the trend is that it goes down16:58
ihrachysso maybe that's an improvement in fullstack-speak16:58
ihrachysok gotta figure out why it's still not shiny, as well for scenarios16:58
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ihrachysjlibosva, do you want an action item for that?16:58
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* ihrachys is not greedy today16:59
jlibosvaI'd wait when it stabilizes at some value16:59
ihrachysok fair enough16:59
ihrachys#action ihrachys to review fullstack and scenario health before next meeting16:59
ihrachysand we are at the top of the hour16:59
ihrachysthanks all, and thanks for reviews and patches and joining16:59
ihrachysciao16:59
jlibosvaI found some bugs at dhcp tests in fullstack16:59
ihrachys#endmeeting17:00
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone18:00
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lbragstadping antwash, ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, notmorgan, ravelar, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla18:00
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lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting18:00
lbragstadagenda ^18:00
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samueldmqo/18:00
samueldmqheey18:00
ayoungHI18:01
lbragstad#topic announcements18:01
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lbragstad#info this week is pike-118:01
lbragstadwhich means pike proposal spec freeze18:01
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lbragstadif you have any last minute things to propose for Pike, this is the week18:01
ayounglbragstad, they have to be approved, or just submitted?18:01
dstaneko/18:01
lbragstadspec freeze is pike-218:02
lbragstadayoung just submitted18:02
dstanekayoung: submitted18:02
ayoungR18:02
lbragstad#info roll call list has been pruned18:02
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lbragstadif you're not on the list, feel free to add yourself18:02
lbragstadbut i combined the roll calls we've taken to create the newlist18:03
lbragstad# topic unified limits spec18:03
dstanekit got trimmed way down18:03
lbragstadyeah - it's real slim18:03
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709/18:03
lbragstadin case you missed it, we merged sdague very well written doc on unified limits18:04
ayoungHas anyone from the other teams looked at it?18:04
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lbragstadwhich was an overview document outlining an 1000 ft view of our approach to unified limits and eventually hierarchical quotas18:04
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lbragstadayoung the original, yes18:04
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ayoungRight now, Keystone is the repository, but the consumers will be Cinder and the others18:05
lbragstadwe had buy in from cinder, nova, and neutron I think18:05
ayoungCool18:05
knikollathis is the one that actually merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440815/18:05
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440815/18:05
ayoungAh, looks like a good back-and-forth on that.  Cool18:05
lbragstadwe have glance sign off of on it,too18:06
ayoungNice to finally have some progress there.  Its only been 5 years18:06
lbragstadright18:06
lbragstadso - the next thing we have to do is start poking holes in the proposal sdague wrote up for the interface18:06
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lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709/18:06
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lbragstadkeep in mind that all the other projects are going to be leveraging ^ that work in order to process limit information in order to enforce quota18:07
lbragstadit might help to review it from that perspective18:07
* lbragstad shrugs18:07
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lbragstaddoes anyone have questions on the unified limits approach?18:08
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dstanekthere's been quite a few ways on how other services could use that data18:09
ayoungWe going to return quotas in the token validation response?18:09
* ayoung ducks18:09
dstanek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441203/18:09
lbragstadayoung no - i don't think so18:09
dstanekayoung: no, i don't think it would be possible18:09
lbragstadayoung unless you were being sarcastic?18:09
ayoungdstanek, course it would.18:09
dstanekalso it's limits we store and not quota18:09
ayounglbragstad, yes I was18:09
lbragstadayoung ok - good :)18:10
ayoungdstanek, but actually, the service would know, based on the token, the set of limits it is going to need18:10
ayoungwould not be crazy to add in a header that said "included that data on token response"18:10
dstanekayoung: yep.18:10
ayoungor request param18:10
lbragstaddstanek yup - i don't expect the limits data to change much in a deployment, but it should be easy to do if needed18:10
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ayounglets get it working, and we can optimize after18:10
dstanekayoung: but that might be a lot of data18:10
ayoungdstanek, yeah, but if they are going to need it anyway, might as well get it up front18:11
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ayoungcheaper than multiple round trips, same amount of data18:11
ayoungand can live in the token cache18:11
ayoungnot pushing for it, just saying it is not crazy crazy18:11
dstanekayoung: it'll be the same for all users of a project so getting it over and over isn't ideal18:11
ayoungNo per-user data?18:12
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dstanekand it's by service18:12
lbragstadayoung nope - it's per service/resource18:12
lbragstadayoung this is just the limit18:12
ayoung++18:12
lbragstadnot the quota18:12
dstanekso you'd get limits for each thing that each service can do for a project, it's siblings and potientially it's parents18:12
ayoungOK.  Still could be fetched on the first time a project is seen18:12
knikollawhat is the difference between quota and limits?18:12
ayounganyway, move ot18:12
lbragstada limit is the amount you're allowed18:13
ayoungmove on, we can optimize it later18:13
lbragstada quota is the amount you're using18:13
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knikollalbragstad: gotcha18:13
dstanekknikolla: limits are really just a count used in a quota calculation18:13
dstanekluckily we won't be storing usage at all in this model18:13
lbragstad(amen)18:14
lbragstad#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ongoing/unified-limits.html#limits-vs-usage-enforcement18:14
lbragstadknikolla ^18:14
lbragstadthat's an example that helped me understand it18:14
bretonoh wow, it was merged18:14
lbragstadbreton yeah - now was have to move on to the next step18:15
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709/18:15
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lbragstadalso - something else that might help in reviewing this is thinking about the library that is going to consume and process the data18:15
lbragstadfor those who might not know, it was proposed that was write a little library for all the projects to use to make the calculations18:16
lbragstadthat way enforcement is consistent18:16
lbragstad#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ongoing/unified-limits.html#common-behavior-between-projects18:16
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lbragstadany more questions on quota?18:17
lbragstador unified limits?18:17
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lbragstadcool18:18
lbragstadwe can move on then18:18
lbragstad#topic open discussion18:18
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lbragstadi didn't have anything else for today's meeting18:18
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lbragstaddoes anyone have anything they want to talk about?18:18
ayoungYep18:18
dstanekdangeous question18:18
ayoungMiddleware RBAC18:19
lbragstadfavorite recipes?18:19
ayounganyone dead set against it?18:19
ayoungIf so, please offer alternatives.18:19
ayoungI'm all ears.  Er...eyes?18:19
ayoungFor example, dstanek does not like the URL based aspect of it.18:19
lbragstadayoung johnthetubaguy had a ton of questions18:19
ayoungjamielennox was woried about performance18:19
ayounglbragstad, I answered his code review questions18:20
dstanekayoung: why performance?18:20
ayoungdstanek, matchin the patterns against the route requested18:20
lbragstadi feel like this topic is stretching the limit of IRC bandwidth18:20
ayounglbragstad, I was planning on discussing it at the summit18:20
ayoungbut looks like the dev side of the summit is going to be pretty light18:20
dstanekah, sure.18:20
ayoungas in, is anyone going besides me?18:20
lbragstadi was contemplating a video call of some kind18:20
ayoungsure18:21
lbragstadayoung yeah - it's going to be light18:21
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ayoungI'd be happy to set up Google or Bluejeans or WhatApp, or whatever people want in ordr to discuss18:21
dstanekayoung: i'd be cool with that18:21
gagehugoI think hangout had that issue of only 10 people max18:21
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gagehugounless there is a business account?18:22
lbragstadhow many folks here would want to participate?18:22
knikollao/18:22
dstaneki am meeting heavy tomorrow so Friday would work best, but i could juggle if need be18:22
ayoungRH has a corporate Bluejeans account I can use, but people need to get the client installed18:22
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lbragstadwhat if we dedicate some time on Friday's office hours to it?18:22
ayoungWorks for me.  I already started the slides for my summit talk, so I can run through those at breakneck speed, and hopefully address the questions I've gotten thus far18:23
gagehugoI'd be down for listening in18:23
bretonmeet.jit.si18:23
bretonFOSS18:23
lbragstadso i've got  - breton, gagehugo, ayoung, dstanek, knikolla attending for sure18:23
lbragstadright?18:23
lbragstadcc johnthetubaguy ^18:24
bretonlbragstad: nope, i'll pass18:24
lbragstadbreton timezone not idea?18:24
lbragstadideal*?18:24
ayounglbragstad, would love to get johnthetubaguy in there.  Willing to schedule it around him if needs be18:24
dstaneklbragstad: what's johnthetubaguy's timezone?18:24
lamtI'd like to listen in as well18:24
bretonlbragstad: don't have time for it :)18:24
lbragstaddstanek +6 from us18:24
bretonlbragstad: just wanted to suggest a tool18:24
lbragstadbreton ++18:24
ayoungbreton, what did you call me?18:24
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lbragstadlamt ack18:25
dstaneklol18:25
lbragstadok - so i think we're still under 1018:25
bretonayoung: :( i don't get it18:25
dstanekthat'a about how many people were on rollcall!18:25
ayoung" just wanted to suggest a tool"18:25
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dstanekbreton: it's an Americanism18:26
ayoungyeah18:26
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ayoungGoogle hangout least barrier to entry?18:26
lbragstadi would think so18:26
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lbragstadbut I'm open to hearing if it isn't feasible for someone18:26
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lbragstaddoes a ML thread communicating it seem appropriate?18:27
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dstanekgoogle is my personal stalker so i'm fine with a hangout18:27
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dstaneklbragstad: well what's the hangout limit? you don't want 30 people dailing in just to watch18:28
ayounglbragstad, nah18:28
samueldmqlbragstad: ayoung: there is still some life on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452198/18:28
samueldmqwe keep discussing there, correct?18:28
ayounglet me get this group.  knikolla and I have the talk at the summit for a wider audience18:28
lbragstadright - that's what i was afraid of but I don't want it to seem like we're not being open18:28
ayoungsamueldmq, last update was Apr 6 8:51 AM  I hope that is live enough for you18:29
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ayounglbragstad, any more than 10, and I think I'd have to do bluejeans instead18:29
lbragstad#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455629/18:29
samueldmqayoung: lbragstad commented on Apr 1018:29
lbragstadjohnthetubaguy ^ just posted that recently, too18:29
ayoungCool18:29
lbragstadwhich I think is just another way to try and communicate18:30
dstaneklbragstad: if there were interested in keystone development they's be here....we can also invite the peeple that are not here, but have comments on the specs18:30
lbragstaddstanek yeah - that makes sense18:30
ayoungCan we get a sense of how many people here are going to be at the Summit?18:30
lbragstadalright - i'll start a thread (not on the ML) about getting something lined up for Firday and we'll use it to nail down a time18:31
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lbragstadayoung i'm still up in the air18:32
dstanekayoung: 90% sure that i'm going18:32
lbragstadi should hopefully have a better answer next week18:32
lbragstadi think morgan and jamielennox both said they won't make it18:33
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samueldmqayoung: I'll be there o/18:33
morgani def wont be there18:33
samueldmqlbragstad: I know morgan won't18:34
samueldmqmorgan: ++ :-)18:34
gagehugoI'll be there18:34
* cmurphy will be there18:34
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lamtsame.  I'll be there.18:34
lbragstadbefore I forget18:34
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lbragstad#action lbragstad to send a note about organizing a policy chat on Friday18:35
lbragstaddoes anyone have anything else?18:36
lbragstadayoung ?18:36
ayoungNah I'm good18:36
lbragstadok18:36
ayoungbug me if you need specific reviews, please18:36
lbragstadi think we can give folks some time back today18:36
lbragstadwhich they can use to go review sdague's unified limits spec :)18:36
ayoungSounds good.18:36
lbragstadthanks for coming everyone18:37
lbragstad#endmeeting18:37
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pabelangero/19:00
amrith./19:00
pabelangerany infra folks around today19:00
cmurphyo/19:00
clarkbyes19:01
pabelangerwe don't have much to cover today, with fungi out today it might be nice and fast19:01
AJaegero/19:01
pabelangerlets get things started19:01
pabelanger#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 11 19:01:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is pabelanger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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pabelanger#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
pabelanger#topic Announcements19:02
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pabelangernot much to stay here, expect I'm standing in for fungi today19:02
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pabelanger#topic Actions from last meeting19:02
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pabelanger#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-04-04-19.03.html19:02
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pabelangerfungi put forth proposal to flatten git namespaces19:02
pabelangerI took a look, and didn't see anything19:02
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pabelangerand since fungi isn't here today, we can likely action again for next week19:03
AJaegeragreed19:03
pabelanger#action fungi put forth proposal to flatten git namespaces19:03
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pabelangerpabelanger Open an Ubuntu SRU for bug 125149519:03
openstackbug 1251495 in mailman (Ubuntu Trusty) "Lists with topics enabled can throw unexpected keyword argument 'Delete' exception." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125149519:03
pabelangerI started looking into this, but have not created a bug yet. I will reaction and do so for next week19:03
pabelanger#action pabelanger Open an Ubuntu SRU for bug 125149519:04
pabelangerand that was it19:04
pabelanger#topic Specs approval19:04
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pabelangerZuulv3 Executor Security Enhancement19:04
pabelanger#link https://review.openstack.org/44449519:04
pabelangerjeblair asked to put this on the meeting today. Is this something we are ready to move forward for a vote, or do we want to hold off until next week?19:04
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pabelangerSpamapS: ^19:04
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clarkbI think SpamapS is also in the afk boat in michigan19:06
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pabelangerthink so too19:06
clarkbI read through it, I think its well put together. But personally prefer the alternative listed as its somethign we currently do with success and not much pain19:06
pabelangerYes, I think it has some good options listed.19:07
clarkbI'm not going to object strongly enough to move forward with it as proposed, just more comfortable when it comes to security being a little conservative and using a known good solution19:07
pabelangerI haven't been able to get bublewrap working locally yet myself19:07
clarkb*er not objecting strongly enough that we can't move forward19:08
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pabelangerso, if we want to open voting, I was thinking keeping it open until next tuesday. This just people that are away time to cast votes19:09
pabelangerother wise, I'm happy to defer to next week19:09
clarkbseems reasonable19:09
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pabelangerk, lets start voting19:09
pabelanger#info Infra Council voting is open for the "Zuulv3 Executor Security Enhancement" spec until 19:00 UTC on Tuesday, April 1819:10
pabelangerif nothing else, onwards to the next topic19:10
pabelanger#topic Priority Efforts19:10
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pabelangerSeems to be the status quo for now19:10
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pabelangerclarkb: did you want to add anything for gerrit upgrades?19:11
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clarkbuh I need to work with zaro to write up a manual upgrade plan since we require an offline index that is expected to take many hours, then perform that on review-dev to make sure it works. Then we test new gerrit on review-dev and then we upgrade prod19:12
pabelangeras for zuulv3, I believe zuulv3-dev.o.o is still offline pending a security fix19:12
clarkbI started an etherpad, but its pretty bare bones let me find it19:12
clarkbhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2.13.-upgrade-steps19:12
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pabelanger#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2.13.-upgrade-steps19:12
clarkbI am hoping to work on that more this week and hopefully have review-dev upgraded soon19:13
pabelangerack19:13
mordredohai19:13
pabelangerare we aiming for an upgrade for summit? or after19:13
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clarkbmy guess is after. I don't expect we'll have all the testing done in the next couple weeks19:14
clarkbjust based on all the toehr things being juggled including the summit19:15
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pabelangerya, I wasn't sure if we picked a date yet or not.19:15
pabelangerworks for me19:15
pabelangerand we move on to the next topic19:16
pabelanger#topic General topics19:16
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pabelangernothing on the wiki today, if anybody has something they want to add now, we have the time to talk. Otherwise, onto open discussion19:16
clarkboh it might be nice to have a second infra root on that just so more than one person is familiar with the process19:16
clarkbpabelanger: any idea if/how the caching proxies are helping things that use rdo or docker hub?19:17
* mordred also curious19:17
pabelangerclarkb: my understanding they are helping a lot. I don't think they have had a network issue since we added them19:17
pabelangerI am not sure about docker registry, patches are still in process for that19:18
clarkbya the rdo issues on e-r have definitely fallen off19:18
ianwi haven't got around to an email, but i plan to restart the dib meeting in earnest.  there was a bit of confusion as to who was running it, and we got slack, but i'll start doing it regularly after easter19:18
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pabelanger#topic Open discussion19:19
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clarkbianw: by getting slack you mean like a rope not like the irc alternative?19:19
pabelangerall the topics now!19:19
jlvillalReview request: https://review.openstack.org/448786  Highlight POST_FAILURE same as FAILURE on Gerrit page19:19
cmurphyclarkb: lol19:19
ianwoh, yes, i mean we skipped it, not random web chat clients :)19:19
clarkbon the citycloud front I've been told to make accounts then tell them what they are so they can comp them and edit quotas. So uh I just need to sit down and do that.19:20
pabelangerclarkb: I did want to talk do you about moving apache cache to afs, was curious what you meant about that.  Currently osic-cloud only has 40GB root drive, our smallest19:20
clarkbjlvillal: I'll try to review that today19:20
jlvillalclarkb, Thanks :)19:20
clarkbpabelanger: basically we mount a cinder volume in most places for the afs cache but the entire volume is mounted at just the afs cache location19:20
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pabelangerwe also landed some of the work cmurphy has been doing to depuppet DIB images, so yay for that19:21
clarkbpabelanger: I was thinking maybe we could either create two filesystems and mount one for apache or mount it a level above the apache and afs caches so they can share it19:21
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pabelangerclarkb: interesting. Okay, happy to talk a more about that. I suspect docker registry we may need more then 2GB of cache19:22
clarkbya 2GB was a conservative limit to make sure we didn't break anything19:22
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clarkbso definitely open to raising that as we go19:22
pabelanger++19:22
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pabelangerokay, unless anybody else wants to continue talking. I think we can wrap up early today19:23
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clarkboh please bug me to do the citycloud thing. I keep putting it off because it requires things like web forms and credit cards19:23
pabelangershould we action?19:24
clarkbyes19:24
pabelanger#action clarkb to add citycloud to nodepool19:24
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pabelangerwith that, lets end our meeting for today19:25
pabelangerthanks everybody19:25
pabelanger#endmeeting19:25
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lbragstadno tc meeting today?20:03
edleafenope20:03
lbragstadaha - I must have missed that note, thanks edleafe20:04
edleafethere was an email thread about that20:04
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edleafelbragstad: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-tc/2017-April/001359.html20:06
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