Wednesday, 2017-04-12

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gongysh#startmeeting tacker05:31
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 05:31:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:31
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.05:31
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tacker'05:31
trinathso/05:31
digao/05:31
gongyshhi everyone, who are you guys are here for tacker meeting?05:31
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trinathsyes05:31
sridhar_ramhowdy all !05:32
gongysh#topic Roll Call05:32
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gongyshsridhar_ram, hi05:32
Zhou_Zhihongo/05:32
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YanXing_ano/05:32
jankio/05:33
gongyshhow is last week?05:33
gongyshare you guys happy?05:33
gongysh:)05:33
trinaths:)05:33
jankihi gongysh trinaths05:34
gongysh#topic tacker activity review05:34
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digaIt was very hectic for me since my office product release was going since two weeks, yesterday finally we have done our product release:)05:34
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gongyshhttp://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&module=tacker-group05:35
gongyshtrinaths, thanks for you reviewing effort05:35
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gongyshdiga, congratulations.05:35
sridhar_ramtrinaths: great job !05:35
trinathsgongysh: still need reviews. missed my Pike-1 bug..05:35
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digagongysh: thanks! I can  give more time to tacker now onwards :)05:36
dkushwaha_o/05:36
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gongyshYanXing_an is also improving the review.05:36
gongyshdiga, thanks.05:36
gongyshdkushwaha_, hi05:36
Abhi111hi05:36
gongyshAbhi111, hi, welcome05:37
gongysh#annoucement05:37
sridhar_ramgongysh: is successfully gamifying tacker participation :) Let's see who stays in Pike top-5 club05:37
gongysh#topic http://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&module=tacker-group05:37
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gongyshsorry05:37
gongysh#topic annoucement05:37
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gongyshp1 is over05:37
Abhi111anyone with raas ransomeware solution ?05:38
gongyshsridhar_ram, do we need to release pi package?05:38
sridhar_ramgongysh: no, we are not marked as milestone-release type project05:38
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trinathsAbhi111: Hi, its an Openstack-Tacker meeting.05:39
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Abhi111ohh05:39
sridhar_ramgongysh: fyi, we are marked as release-with-intermediary ..05:39
gongyshsridhar_ram, ok, we just need to move all bugs to p2, right?05:39
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sridhar_ramgongysh: yes .. and in that we need to realistic .. move some low sev bugs to P305:39
sridhar_ram*need to be05:40
gongyshsridhar_ram, I have done that. all bugs not fixed in p1 are moved from p1 to p2.05:40
gongysh#link https://launchpad.net/tacker/+milestone/pike-205:40
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sridhar_ramgongysh: cool, once one or two BPs merge, we need to do an "intermediary" Pike Tacker release ..05:40
gongyshp2 will end at 2017-06-0505:41
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gongyshsridhar_ram, yes.  we have some spec in review process.05:41
gongysh#topic BP05:41
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gongysh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tacker-specs05:42
gongyshthe first one is "encrypt vim credentials with barbican"05:42
gongyshpatch is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445543/05:43
YanXing_anNeed more reviews to make it merged05:43
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gongyshwho will help to review it?05:43
tung_doanYanXing_an: first of all, you need to fix syntax in this patch05:43
gongyshsridhar_ram, dkushwaha_ ?05:43
sridhar_ramgongysh: i'll continue to review it ..05:43
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dkushwaha_gongysh: I will do it05:44
trinathsi can help review that spec.05:44
gongyshsridhar_ram, dkushwaha_ thanks05:44
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gongyshtrinaths, you too. thanks05:44
YanXing_anThanks all05:44
gongyshYanXing_an, please actively respond to review comments and hope it will merge soon.05:45
gongyshand then we can start coding.05:45
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YanXing_angongysh, ok, i will05:45
sridhar_ramYanXing_an: all: quick note on the credentials used to review: i think credential store should be a remote service used by tacker-service ..05:45
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sridhar_ram.. irrespective of which user is creating VIMs05:46
gongyshsridhar_ram, cannot understand quite.05:46
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sridhar_ramgongysh: will explain further.. there was a question which barbican user/pw to be used to store the creds.. is that issue resolved ?05:47
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gongyshsridhar_ram, I suggest to use the user's own context.05:47
YanXing_anuse the operator (who creates vim) 's context to store creds05:48
sridhar_ramYanXing_an: gongysh: okay, i think that shd work ..05:48
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gongyshok05:49
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gongyshsridhar_ram, and for 'shared' vim, we will use rbac way to do 'part sharing' instead of 'all sharing'.05:50
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gongyshnext topic05:50
gongyshSupport block storage05:50
gongyshhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/453442/05:50
Zhou_ZhihongI need more reviews and ideas to help me update the spec.05:50
gongyshI will be the one core to review the spec.05:51
Zhou_Zhihongthanks05:51
gongyshsridhar_ram, I think you will be interested in it.05:51
sridhar_ramgongysh: yes, it is in my queue .. will review05:51
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trinathsZhou_Zhihong: Do you have any use-case for this?05:51
gongyshZhou_Zhihong, I have give some comments on it.05:52
Zhou_Zhihongyes, i have verifed one case05:52
Zhou_Zhihonggongysh, yes I see.05:52
digagongysh:  I will review the spec05:52
gongyshdiga, thanks05:52
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gongyshTacker support in python-openstackclient05:53
sridhar_ramZhou_Zhihong: gongysh: one general thought is, it is preferable to  solve this in a non-NFV way05:53
trinathsZhou_Zhihong: Then, can you elaborate those finding too in the spec. It will give a clear idea05:53
sridhar_ramZhou_Zhihong: gongysh: better to leverage Simple Profile instead of the NFV profile05:53
trinathsregarding my spec, on OSC, replying gongysh comments, w.r.t the command names, we are following how the other modules are doing. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/ .. For example, Heat https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/mitaka/python-openstackclient.html05:54
Zhou_Zhihongtrinaths: I will05:54
gongyshsridhar_ram, http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML/v1.0/csprd01/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML-v1.0-csprd01.html#_Toc43001583605:54
gongyshsridhar_ram are you talking about this doc?05:54
sridhar_ramgongysh: exactly05:54
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gongyshyes, I have put this reference on the spec review. Zhou_Zhihong , please refer to it.05:55
sridhar_ramgongysh: we don't need to artificially make this NFV specific .. we shd work across the aisle in TP / HT projects to get this done05:55
sridhar_ramgongysh: we shd just have test-cases and use-case docs in tacker on how it is used for NFV purposes05:56
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gongyshsridhar_ram, yes05:56
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gongyshnext topic "Tacker support in python-openstackclient" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/05:57
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sridhar_ramgongysh: background, i was in ONS Summit last week .. talked to some TOSCA Data Model folks and there is preference to keep non-NFV specific things out of NFV profile05:57
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gongyshI have suggest to use "tacker_" as our command prefix in "OSC"05:58
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gongyshfor example "openstack tacker_vnfd create xxxx"05:58
sridhar_ramgongysh: nope, that beats the whole idea of OSC effort05:58
trinathsgongysh: but we need to align with the list of OSC commands.05:58
sridhar_ramgongysh: AFAIK, the idea is to move away from project names in the CLI05:58
gongyshsridhar_ram, then what if our command conflicts with other project?05:59
sridhar_ramgongysh: .. into one common openstack level CLI namespace05:59
tung_doansridhar_ram: +105:59
digasridhar_ram: +1, command should be feature specific, not product specific as per the openstack standard05:59
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gongyshdoes then have 'command namespace' concept?05:59
gongyshdo they have 'command namespace' concept?06:00
sridhar_ramgongysh: that's why we need to put more thoughts and work w/ those teams ..06:00
trinathssridhar_ram: I have updated many commands to be specific to what Tacker really doing.06:00
sridhar_ramgongysh: again, afaik, there is just one openstack level namespace ..06:00
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gongyshsridhar_ram, who will help to approve the command names used across projects"06:01
gongyshsridhar_ram, who will help to approve the command names used across projects?06:01
sridhar_ramtrinaths: gongysh: one suggestion is to make slight nfv type prefix to those commands that could potentially conflict06:01
trinathsgongysh: here is the list of OSC commands so far listed. http://paste.openstack.org/show/606214/06:01
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sridhar_ramgongysh: good question..  i don't know the answer :(06:01
sridhar_ramgongysh: atleast anne gentle (from the docs team) should help us direct to the right person06:02
trinathssridhar_ram: then it must be something like, $> tacker event-list ==> $> openstack nfv event list ??06:02
sridhar_ramtrinaths: exactly .. something like that06:03
gongyshsridhar_ram, then the "nfv" is the prefix.06:03
trinathssince tacker is major NFV related project using 'nfv' as prefix might not conflict other similar commands.06:03
tung_doantrinaths: sridhar_ram gongysh : i think we are in NFV area. Show all cmds should start with "nfv"06:03
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gongyshnfv vnfd xxxx, nfv nsd xxx, fv ns xxx ....06:04
sridhar_ramso even bacic ones will look like 'openstack nfv vnf create'  .. ? hmm...06:04
digasridhar_ram: +1 this is good06:05
gongyshI can go with 'nfv' name space.06:05
trinathssridhar_ram: +1, but we might not give nfv prefix for all the commands but for misc commands.06:05
tung_doansridhar_ram: sounds good :)06:05
gongyshit will help users to know it is from tacker.06:05
dkushwahasridhar_ram, gongysh some project using their project name in openstack cli. Can we use like 'openstack tacker vnf create' ?06:05
sridhar_ramtrinaths: i would like that middle ground approach .. for things like vnf, vnfd, vnffg .. i don't think we need 'nfv' .. but for other like 'network-service', 'sfc', we need ..06:06
digadkushwaha: -1 to above approach, we should not use project name in the cli06:06
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sridhar_ramtrinaths: .. but now that will be inconsistent and that will be confusing as well .. hmmm06:06
gongyshdkushwaha, my original idea is to user "tacker" but now I think "nfv" is better. but hope there is no resource in our tacker named 'nfv'06:07
trinathssridhar_ram: the idea can be like for those conflicting must have nfv prefix06:07
digadkushwaha: as sridhar_ram mentioned we should go with nfv namespace, I think that will be right approach06:07
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dkushwahagongysh, diga  make sense06:07
sridhar_ramtrinaths: agree, but now we have created some inconsistency.. i would lean towards making it consistent06:07
sridhar_ramtrinaths: .. even if that means making it longer06:08
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gongyshsridhar_ram, we cannot make sure other commands will not conflict with commands from other projects.06:08
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trinathssridhar_ram: agree. then all commands will have $> openstack nfv <-commands->06:08
sridhar_ramtrinaths: yep ..06:09
sridhar_ramtrinaths: let's see how this shapes in .. in your next spec revision06:09
trinathssridhar_ram: that way we can easily avoid conflicting them.06:09
digasridhar_ram: trinaths: gongysh : As I am implementing new API, if we need to add/remove params from API to make command consistent, we can do that now06:09
trinathssridhar_ram: agree .06:10
trinathsdiga: +1 please share that commit with me.06:10
sridhar_ramdiga: i thought for the initial attempt .. we are not going to change API06:10
gongyshok, let revison the spec. if we cannot get the agreement, we have to vote at next meeting.06:10
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digatrinaths: I am implementing VIM API now, will share with you by friday06:10
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digasridhar_ram: okay06:11
sridhar_ramgongysh: i think we have a general consensus here based on what we just discussed06:11
digasridhar_ram: got it06:11
trinathssridhar_ram: then, one doubt, can I go with ns, vnffg as they are or network-service ...06:11
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trinathssridhar_ram: like, sfc06:12
trinathssridhar_ram: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/6/specs/pike/python-openstackclient.rst06:12
sridhar_ramtrinaths: to be 'ns' is toooo cryptic06:12
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trinathssridhar_ram: okay.06:12
gongyshtung_doan, when will you try to do the 'mistral workflow' for long live task?06:13
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gongyshsridhar_ram, ns is ns, I dont think we should make it 'network-service'.06:13
tung_doangongysh: maybe this week06:13
gongyshif so, we have to do nsd, vnfd, vnf the same way06:13
sridhar_ramgongysh: this is were i want to see how other projects approached their OSC efforts06:13
sridhar_ramgongysh: agree on the consistency part .. nsd vs ns06:14
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gongyshsridhar_ram,  those way can be a reference. but not the rule.06:14
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trinathsgongysh: agree06:14
gongysh#next topic bugs06:15
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gongyshDo you guys have specific bug to talk?06:15
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trinathsgongysh: my outstanding one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449956/06:16
YanXing_anhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/451827/, need someone workflow +106:17
gongyshtrinaths, it seems there is a negative test case from dkushwaha .06:17
gongyshtrinaths, do you have tested your patch yourself?06:17
gongyshwe had better use "curl" to test.06:18
trinathsgongysh: yes. I have posted my comments too06:18
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trinathsdkushwaha: have you downloaded the complete patch and tested it.06:18
gongyshpython tacker client has filled some other stuff before calling the API.06:18
dkushwahagongysh, sridhar_ram I have tried it  on my env, and it looks we can update the vnf name with already existing name. It will be better if somebody can verify it also06:18
trinathsgongysh: I have tested the same test-cases dkushwahahas done. it was failure for me.06:19
dkushwaha%s/vnf/vim06:19
gongyshtrinaths, ok, I will have a test.06:19
dkushwahatrinaths, yup, I had downloaded patch 2506:19
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gongyshfor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451827/06:20
gongyshI think dkushwaha  will be interested in it since you are doing ns with vnffg BP.06:20
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trinathsdkushwaha: but we are in a conflict.06:20
dkushwahagongysh, right, I will review it06:20
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gongysh#topic open discussion06:21
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tung_doangongysh: btw, hope you guys review my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453964/06:21
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dkushwahatrinaths, then, it might be my env issue. If anyone can verify it, rest is fine from my side06:21
trinathsdkushwaha: okay.06:22
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: i tested an vim-update patch .. update blocked for non-admin users. Is this a diff issue ?06:22
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trinathsI see some patches from contributors with simple typo corrections. Are such fixes valid ?06:22
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dkushwahasridhar_ram, it looks different case. Please look into http://paste.openstack.org/show/606169/06:23
sridhar_ramtrinaths: IMO, typo fixes in docs are okay to entertain .. but not worth fixing in the code.. totaly wast of reviewers' time06:24
gongyshtrinaths,  In my own way, I don't review with small typo fixes.06:24
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: will check06:24
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trinathsdkushwaha: I have done the same testing, http://paste.openstack.org/show/606185/06:24
digaanybody knows how to update company affiliation in gerrit ?06:24
trinathsdkushwaha: but the test failed as suggested.06:24
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gongyshtrinaths,  but with end user facing doc, it is fine.06:25
trinathsdiga: you mean stackalytics ?06:25
digatrinaths: YEs06:25
trinathsgongysh: Agree. I have seen some fixes to http => https , actualy => actually06:25
sridhar_ramdiga: push a patchset to https://github.com/openstack/stackalytics06:25
digasridhar_ram: okay, thank you06:26
YanXing_anhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/254618/, for example06:26
trinathsdiga: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Stackalytics#Company_affiliation06:26
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digatrinaths: Thanks!06:26
gongyshdo you guys have other stuff to talk?06:26
gongyshif not, we will end the meeting. and we can discuss on tacker channel.06:27
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gongyshhave a good week.06:28
gongysh#endmeeting06:28
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trinathsbye06:28
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ma9_is the Scientific working group about to start?08:54
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dariovin theory :-)08:57
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific_wg09:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 09:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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oneswigGood morning good afternoon good evening09:01
oneswig#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_April_12th_201709:01
priteauHello oneswig09:01
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ma9_Hello from Lugano09:01
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oneswigHi priteau I have something to ask of you later ;-)09:01
oneswigHello ma9_ - I'm in the front row next to Mike.09:02
jmloweGood morning!09:02
b1airoevening / <insert time appropriate greeting>09:02
dariovhello!09:02
ma9_I know, I'm Marco from CSCs09:02
jmloweso this is how the other half lives?09:02
oneswigha!  Hi Marco :-)09:02
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oneswig#chair b1airo09:03
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo oneswig09:03
verdurinMorning.09:03
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b1airohow's Laguno?09:03
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b1airoor Lugano even09:04
oneswigb1airo: splendid - don't know how ma9_ gets any work done out here09:04
mpasserini:D09:04
oneswigOK, shall we get started?09:05
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oneswig#topic Roundup on resource reservation & other forum topics09:05
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b1airoit's round-up time at the family station here now that daylight saving has finished so i will be back and forth09:05
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oneswigOK b1airo - know how that is!09:05
oneswigI had a quick one here.  I put in two forum topics - BIOS/RAID config and Cinder multi-attach09:06
oneswigthe BIOS/RAID one was rejected :-( but suggested to cover in the virt + baremetal session09:06
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oneswigthe Cinder volume multi-attach I think was also to be covered in virt + baremetal (oddly)09:06
oneswigThe main discussion going on has been around resource reservation09:07
jmlowethat is odd09:07
oneswigpriteau: can you give a summary?09:07
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priteauThe discussion has focused on what should be handled by Nova itself and what should be managed by another service, like Blazar09:08
oneswigjmlowe: it is, there's also a good deal of interest on multi-attach from the telco world it seems09:08
priteauJay Pipes, one of the Nova core developers, thinks Nova shouldn't handle any temporal access (i.e. things happening in the future)09:09
jmloweDoes anybody have a multi-attach use case other than providing large read only data sets?09:09
oneswigjmlowe: would be good for a scalable bare metal cluster boot. (another read-only case)09:10
priteauA discussion has also started on how to handle instance reservation (rather than just physical host reservation, which is supported in Blazar today)09:11
priteau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/new-instance-reservation09:11
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oneswigpriteau: where are things with OPIE currently?  Seems OK to have a separate service for managing future reservations, but when the future becomes now, what would happen if the machine's full09:11
oneswigpriteau: instance reservation - that would be a nice development in flexibility09:12
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priteauThe instance reservation discussion is driven by Masahito Muroi who is the Blazar PTL - I haven't had time to read it yet09:12
jmloweI have concerns about the use of host aggregates, are they thinking about a refined mechanism for Blazar to manipulate nova?09:12
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priteauI don't know much about OPIE. I hope this forum session will give time for OPIE and Blazar devs to talk about how the two systems will work together09:13
b1airoyes! and us to advocate use-cases09:13
oneswigpriteau: that would be ideal :-)09:13
oneswigWhat I like is how the forum has stimulated some useful discussion already09:14
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priteaujmlowe: Maybe we could use the placement API instead of aggregates09:14
b1airoi'd like to understand jay's opposition to having anymore smarts about this in nova09:14
b1airoi can understand if he prefers to integrate other pluggable services in the scheduler backend, but i'm worried that Nova API actually needs to be extended to support these use-cases nicely09:15
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b1airoso in terms of forum topics i also have one for hypervisor tuning09:16
verdurinb1airo: yes, I didn't quite understand his reluctance either09:17
oneswigb1airo: has it been approved for discussion??09:17
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b1airoand one for special hardware (i need to reach out to the Cyborg folks)09:17
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priteauTim Randles and I also prepared a topic about customization of Ironic deployments steps which was rejected, but would be discussed in the Ironic feedback session09:18
oneswigb1airo: had a small update for you from here wrt special hardware09:18
oneswigwill follow up later09:19
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oneswigpriteau: what was the issue?  We have hopes of using the deployment steps as a means of BIOS/RAID reconfig09:19
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priteauoneswig: it was for supporting booting to ramdisks or speeding up reboots with kexec: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/12509:20
oneswigaha09:20
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oneswigWell we still have the chance to discuss these things at the forum, within a merged session.  Be interesting to hear what the Ironic team think of it09:21
oneswigDid anyone else propose forum topics they can update on?09:22
oneswigOK, lets move on the agenda09:23
oneswig#topic Updates from HPCAC conference in Lugano09:23
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simon-AS559zioproto is giving an OpenStack tutorial as we speak.09:23
simon-AS559(That's his apology for today I guess)09:23
oneswigsimon-AS559: not quite yet - Gabriele from Intel currently talking burst buffers and DAOS09:24
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oneswigzioproto is up later on I believe09:24
simon-AS559Right, 15 minutes according to schedule :-)09:24
jmlowethen lunch09:24
jmlowe14:15 local time09:24
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oneswigWe had jmlowe earlier with a great show-and-tell on Jetstream09:24
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verdurinoneswig: do you have a link for the meeting?09:25
simon-AS559http://hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2017/swiss-workshop/agenda.php09:25
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verdurinthanks, simon-AS55909:26
oneswigverdurin: I believe the sessions are filmed, haven't checked for uploaded presentations09:26
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oneswigDK Panda has spoken a couple of times.  One on MPI and one on big data.09:26
mpasserinithe presentations are usually published on the agenda page afterwards http://hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2017/swiss-workshop/agenda.php09:26
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oneswigb1airo: DK Panda says GPUs + MVAPICH2-virth integration is "something we'll be working on very soon"09:26
jmloweThe new one for me was the SPACK package manager09:26
mpasserinisome videos usually appear on http://insidehpc.com/09:27
oneswigso virtualised gpu-direct is on the roadmap09:27
jmlowesome promise of sriov live migration, but was hard to nail him down on that09:27
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oneswigpriteau: apparently you have heat stacks on chameleon for the OSU HiBD environment - is that true and are they shareable?09:28
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jmloweThe thing about SPACK that interested me was the possibility of dropping in complex hpc applications with a package manager bootstrapped by cloud-init or heat software configs09:28
oneswig(This is the hadoop/spark/memcached/hbase + RDMA tecnology)09:28
priteauoneswig: There is a RDMA Hadoop Heat template in progress. It will be at https://www.chameleoncloud.org/appliances/ when ready09:30
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jmloweok, existing rdma-hadoop looks to be just an image not a heat template?09:31
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oneswigpriteau: Do you think the heat templates will be portable? I'm hoping just to rename a few flavors etc and try it out here.09:31
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priteaujmlowe: What's in the catalog is just an old standalone image now, the Heat template + new image is still being developed09:32
jmlowepriteau: ack, just verifying09:32
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oneswigpriteau: is that coming from OSU or UChicago?09:32
priteauOSU09:33
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oneswigGabriele has just put up a slide with "BlobFS" on it - you heard it here first :-)09:34
priteauoneswig: because it's on bare-metal, the Heat template actually deploys bare-metal nodes, and then runs VMs on top of that. So if you're using a virtualized OpenStack, you will have to adapt the template to remove the unnecessary code to launch VMs09:34
jmlowefascinating09:34
oneswigpriteau: I'd be running bare metal instances in this case09:34
oneswigdo you mean you install kvm on the nodes?09:35
jmlowehow is it putting the rdma in the vm? sriov?09:35
priteaujmlowe: yes, SR-IOV09:35
b1airopriteau, sounds like the "install openstack kvm cloud" and "bring up hadoop/spark/... cluster on openstack" are really two different things..?09:37
jmloweoh, schedule change, openstack tutorial starting now by Saverio Proto09:37
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b1airoreading back... a 15 min OpenStack tutorial?! that's going to be 40k feet :-)09:38
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jmloweI attempted 10k feet, it was rough09:38
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priteaub1airo: I don't understand your question09:39
oneswigzioproto's up right now, we can live-stream it!  Speaking at normal speed currently, I assume he'll accellerate to a singularity by the end09:39
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simon-AS559+109:39
jmloweexciting, similar raison d'etat to my project, jetstream09:40
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oneswigpriteau: you install KVM in order to virtualise the hadoop workers - it's a two-stage process?09:41
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jmloweswitch seems to give you the option of attaching to a science dmz or internal campus network09:42
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priteauoneswig: I assume KVM is pre-installed, but there is some setup done to launch the VMs (not using OpenStack, just plain libvirt IIRC). I don't know all the details, OSU does09:43
jmloweruns mitaka newton coming in a few weeks09:43
jmlowegood god, they are running windows vm's09:43
jmlowevery interesting, they bridge the customer campus networks over the switch backbone with vpn09:45
jmloweinto a provider network on the openstack side09:45
oneswigI like this layer-2 extension of a local intranet into OpenStack, makes it very simple for user to assimilate the VMs into their world09:45
b1airosounds similar to what we do09:46
oneswigWonder what the side-effects are - simon-AS559 any comment?09:46
simon-AS559One side effect is we need to get l2gateway to work :-)09:46
jmloweI just did a one off to let one tenant break out of our vxlan and us a vlan to get access to a lustre filesystem09:46
simon-AS559But it's a bit early to say because we don't really have production deployments of this.09:46
simon-AS559Also the focus isn't really high-performance networking; more to get inside the customer's firewall to be able to access things like Active Directory and other servers.09:47
jmloweI'm sure it could be refined, was lots of hand wiring by me09:47
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simon-AS559Yes, we're trying to reduce that hand-wiring to a minimum; l2gateway is helpful there.09:48
jmloweoh, lots of bridge mappings, looks more similar to what I did09:48
oneswigsimon-AS559: sure, the convenience is the advantage here, but I'm guessing you'll have a second network attached for non-local-intranet traffic?09:48
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simon-AS559Yes, although that's not strictly necessary if you manage everything from the VPC (intranet<->cloud) side09:50
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jmlowethey are using a plugin that I know nothing about, l2gw09:51
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oneswigI've noticed time, we should cover other business!09:52
simon-AS559Update on the Boston Open Research Cloud declaration?09:52
jmloweend of live stream09:52
simon-AS559There's an agenda now09:52
simon-AS559On https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4Y7flFgUgf9dElkaFkwbUhKblU09:53
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simon-AS559"BOCD-Tentative Workshop Agenda-V4.docx"09:53
simon-AS559Just FYI09:53
oneswig#topic Boston roundup09:53
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oneswigthanks simon-AS559, seems to be taking shape well.09:53
simon-AS559Yep, I like what I saw. Have a look!09:54
jmlowesimon-AS559: See you in Boston?09:54
jmloweanybody else attending?09:55
simon-AS559Yes! (Thanks for the live stream btw)09:55
b1airoo/09:55
priteauI'll be in Boston too09:56
jmloweany particular points those not attend would like us to carry with us to Boston?09:56
oneswigOn a different matter, we have full subsidy for an evening social and Tim's on the case for a nice venue.09:56
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oneswigjmlowe: of course, we all want selfies from you lot drinking beer together :-)09:57
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verdurinoneswig: it only counts if you can attract a locust09:57
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oneswigverdurin: I suspect you may need to bring one with you if you're going to pull that trick off again!09:58
jmlowewell, I'll drink a large quantity of beer and see what happens09:58
simon-AS559sounds like a plan09:58
oneswigOne other topic to squeeze in: jmlowe had a good idea - an IRC channel for WG chat09:59
oneswigShould be easy to arrange.  Any thoughts?09:59
jmlowewould be great to spend more time chatting outside of the meetings09:59
verdurinyes, good idea10:00
jmlowekeep the meetings a bit more focused10:00
jmloweno idea how to get an "official" channel10:00
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verdurinhave to go - bye, and thanks for reports from Lugano10:00
priteauIf you want to start a new IRC channel, please consult with the InfrastructureTeam in #openstack-infra or at openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org to ensure it gets registered appropriately.10:00
priteauhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC10:00
oneswigI can ask, I've done other infra stuff10:00
oneswigthanks priteau10:01
oneswigah, time up.10:01
jmloweperfect10:01
oneswiglast comments?10:01
oneswigOK, thanks all!10:01
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oneswig#endmeeting10:01
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b1airooh whoops - we finished! :-)10:02
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joehuanghello14:00
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joehuang#startmeeting tricircle14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 14:00:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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joehuang#topic rollcall14:01
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joehuang#info joehuang14:01
dongfeng#info dongfeng14:01
zhiyuan#info zhiyuan14:01
Yipei#info Yipei14:01
yinxiulin#info xiulin14:01
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joehuang#topic feature implementation review14:02
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hejiawei#info hejiawei14:02
joehuanghello, let's have a short review for the features to be landed in next milestone14:02
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joehuangplease describe the progress in brief, thanks14:03
Yipeifor lbaas, trying to build load balancer management network14:03
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zhiyuan(1) patch for flat network support has been submitted (2) patch for multi-gateway support has been submitted, Joe has left some comments, I will update the patch based on the comments tomorrow14:04
joehuangas we discussed in last meeting, pike 1.5 will be scheduled on May 214:04
dongfengfor async job api, I am still updating it.14:04
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RongHui11for Qos Spec continue update14:04
Yipeionce the lb-mgmt-net is built, i think creating a lb should be successful14:04
joehuanggreat14:05
joehuangfor async api, documentation is needed too14:05
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hejiaweifor metering update, it will delayed one week update14:06
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joehuangand for multi-gateway, I'll prepare a networking guide just like other features14:06
dongfengok14:06
hejiaweiDue to my math test in next week14:06
zhiyuanthanks Joe14:06
joehuang#info aync api documentation is need too14:07
joehuangto yipei, is there any other patches are in review for LBaaS feature enabling?14:07
dongfengwill async job api landed in pike1.5?14:07
joehuangto Dongfeng, I think it should be able to be landed in pike1.514:08
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joehuangif you update in time14:08
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Yipeito joehuang, no other patches14:08
dongfengok, got it14:08
joehuangfor QoS code patches, it's inactive for some time14:08
joehuangto Jiawei, one week delay is ok14:09
joehuangfor metering feature14:09
hejiaweithanks14:10
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joehuanghas the blueprint for QoS feature been registered?14:10
Yipeione issue found today, after creating a port in lb-mgmt-net for listening, the port status is down, even after setting neutron port as the ovs port's interface id14:10
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yinxiulinvlan trunk already support  batch creation,  can submit a version tomorrow14:12
zhiyuan"even after setting neutron ...", this setting is done manually or by agent?14:12
joehuangyou can find how the port is created in ocata devstack plugin14:12
Yipeimanually14:12
Yipeinot by agent14:12
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joehuang#link https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh14:13
Yipeihttps://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L20614:13
joehuangto Xiuling, thanks14:13
Yipeii follow the plugin.sh, the port status is always down14:13
yinxiulinyou are welcome14:14
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joehuangport mac and port IP must be set correctly14:15
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zhiyuanIs restarting OVS agent useful?14:15
joehuangHello, xiongqiu, will QoS code be ready for pike1.5?14:16
Yipeito joehuang, i set the ip and mac of the neutron port to the ohs port, i.e., o-hm014:16
Yipeito zhiyuan, i did not restart ovs agent, i will try14:16
joehuanghave you done this sudo ip link set dev o-hm0 address $MGMT_PORT_MAC14:17
longxiongqiuif qos spec is not problems, i will update qos code.14:17
joehuangsudo dhclient -v o-hm0 -cf $OCTAVIA_DHCLIENT_CONF14:17
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joehuangto xiongqiu, don't need to upload all QoS code in one patch, you split it into several smaller patches14:18
zhiyuanI think after restart, OVS agent will find the new port and send a RPC request to update the port UP14:18
joehuangall code in one patch is too huge to review14:18
longxiongqiurecently i prepare papers for graduation, sorry for delaying14:19
longxiongqiuok14:19
longxiongqiui will split the patch to some small patch14:19
joehuangzhiyuan's proposal may work14:19
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Yipeito joehuang, 'sudo dhclient -v o-hm0 -cf $OCTAVIA_DHCLIENT_CONF' fails14:20
zhiyuanIn the octavia plugin.sh, the creation of management port may be done before agent starts14:20
Yipeii think it is due to the port status14:20
joehuangto zhiyuan +114:20
Yipeito zhiyuan, i will have a try14:20
Yipeirestart the ovs agent14:20
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joehuangok, Yipei, you can try it offline14:22
Yipeito zhiyuan, i restart the ovs agent, the port status is ACTIVE14:22
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zhiyuancool14:22
Yipeiit works14:22
joehuangvery good, it works immediately14:22
Yipeiyes14:23
joehuang#topic Pike-1.5 (May.2) preparation14:23
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joehuanghello, for pike1.514:24
joehuangthis release will be used in OPNFV Beijing summit for VNF high availability across OpenStack14:24
joehuanglet's list the things to do14:24
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Yipeii think creating load balancer can be done, but cannot ensure listener, pool, and member14:27
joehuangok14:28
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joehuangyou can  submit small patch, it can be merged efficiently14:28
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dongfengthe async job api is bottom function. I'll try to make it merged May 1th14:29
joehuangcode for flat network and multi-gateway features are ready, only waiting for review and approve14:29
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zhiyuanDo we need to download OPNFV tool to test the integration?14:29
Yipeiactually, not much code, but many configuration. i think it is necessary to prepare a guide for lbaas14:30
joehuangto dongfeng "bottom function"?14:30
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joehuangto zhiyuan, A team in OPNFV multisite is working on the intergration14:30
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joehuangI am only afraid the local_plugin may not work with Ocata Neutron14:31
joehuangfor central Neutron and Tricircle, it can be booted in a virtual machine14:31
zhiyuanfor your concern, we can do the experiment our own14:31
dongfengI mean not very useful. but useful for admin.14:32
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joehuangyes, to see whether it can work with Ocata Neutron for local plugin. The requirements may conflict14:32
joehuangso we may have to use Ocata requirements14:33
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joehuangTo yipei, the guide could be release after the whole LBaaS is working14:34
Yipeiok, got it14:34
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joehuang#info test whether local plugin work under Ocata Neutron14:36
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joehuangfeel free to discuss if you find something is very important in pike1.514:38
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joehuang#topic open discussion14:38
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joehuangany other topics?14:38
Yipeiyes14:38
joehuangplease14:39
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Yipeiwhen creating a port with specified security group in local neutron, it will fails. Because the security group is not created in central neutorn14:40
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zhiyuanyou mean octavia will create a security group by itself?14:41
Yipeiyes14:41
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joehuangOcatavia is configured to use central Neutron14:42
Yipeinot accurate14:42
joehuangwhy it will create seg in local neutron14:42
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Yipeiwe have bottom port and top port14:42
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Yipeibut we do not have bottom security group or top security group14:43
joehuangnot get your point14:43
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zhiyuanif SEG is not given, default SEG will be used14:43
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Yipeito zhiyuan, yes14:45
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Yipeifor example, for the health management port, it is created in local neutron, and a top port is also created in central neutron14:46
zhiyuandefault SEG case is handled by local plugin14:46
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Yipeiif we specified one as octavia does14:47
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Yipeii have to use default SEG when creating the port, and then update it with specified SEG14:48
Yipeibut top port's SEG is still default14:48
zhiyuanwhen creating management port, Octavia will create a new SEG and use this SEG to create a port?14:49
Yipeiyes14:49
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joehuangHave you configured the Neutron endpoint to central Neutron or local Neutron in Ocatavia's configuration?14:51
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Yipeinot for creating lb, just for building lb management net manually14:53
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Yipeitricircle cannot cover such cases, i.e., creating a port in local neutron with specified SEG of local neutorn14:53
zhiyuanif it's manuall operation, you can create the SEG in central neutron first14:53
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joehuangIf you create the network manully, you should create the network/subnet/SEG in central Neutron first14:53
joehuangok, other topic?14:55
Yipeino for me14:55
zhiyuanno for me14:55
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joehuangok, thank you for attending the meeting14:56
joehuang#endmeeting14:56
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.html14:56
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.txt14:56
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.log.html14:56
joehuangbye14:56
zhiyuanbye14:56
Yipeibye14:57
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Menthos#startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 15:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Menthos. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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ad_rien_#chair ad_rien_ Menthos15:00
Menthos#chair ad_rien_15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: Menthos ad_rien_15:00
Menthos;-)15:00
ad_rien_;)15:00
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MenthosHello all!15:01
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jamemccHello15:01
ansmitho/15:01
kgiustio/15:01
rcherrueauo/15:01
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ad_rien_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2017 Agenda line 44515:01
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paul-andreraymonHello Everyone15:02
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ad_rien_let's wait just two more minutes15:02
ad_rien_#topic Announcement15:03
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ad_rien_so nothing special from Inria side.15:03
ad_rien_We are working on the WANWide Experiments15:03
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ad_rien_So we hope to have preliminary results by end of april15:04
rcherrueau#link https://github.com/rcherrueau/performance-docs/commit/7b3387362c9f1c83ae1da098381aee22e04356d215:04
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ad_rien_@rcherrueau can you copy/paste the link15:04
ad_rien_ok thanks15:04
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ad_rien_And if I'm correct the slot to further discuss OSLO messaging related questions has been accepted (but I propose to discuss that point later).15:05
ad_rien_Finally I would appreciate whether we can arrange a date for the ecomp presentation.15:05
kgiusti+115:05
ad_rien_And that's all from our side15:05
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ad_rien_so the floor is yours ?15:06
paul-andreraymonIs there any help we could provide to the WANWide experiements?15:06
ad_rien_Right now we are performing some initial experiemnts15:06
rcherrueauYes, a full time engineer would be cool :)15:06
ad_rien_so I don't think so but if you have something in mind ?15:06
ad_rien_@rcherrueau ;)15:07
kgiustiI'll add the forum meeting details to the etherpad...15:07
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ad_rien_maybe some feedback regarding the experiment protocol15:07
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ad_rien_that is described in the above link15:07
paul-andreraymonI will look into both. Should I contact you by email.15:07
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ad_rien_sure15:07
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ad_rien_either me or rcherrueau15:08
ad_rien_firstname.lastname@inria.fr15:08
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ad_rien_ok15:08
ad_rien_any other news to be shared from your side ?15:08
ad_rien_before jumping into the agenda ?15:08
ad_rien_ok15:09
ad_rien_so maybe before starting to discuss about technics, may we try to converge on the ecomp slot15:09
ad_rien_jamemcc:  can you propose some slots on the fly ?15:09
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ad_rien_I know it is a bit hard....15:09
ad_rien_so I apologize but it looks that doodle was not the best solution15:10
paul-andreraymonWill we be able to record the session? Maybe we do not need to have everyone attend.15:10
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ad_rien_so let's try to arrange in real-time :-P15:10
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ad_rien_I hope this will help15:10
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ad_rien_jamemcc:  ?15:10
jamemccI beleive it was my fault we did not have the ECOMP/ONAP meeting yesterday as agreed.  Even for myself I did not ahve the meeting/logistics on my calendar.15:11
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Menthos#topic ECOMP15:11
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jamemccOn the topic of early confusion/timezones I also learned in Doiodle you have an option to show the users timezone15:12
jamemccI've tried to set one up that way here: https://doodle.com/poll/y7dmahbdfcuheqv615:12
ad_rien_yes I enabled it on my side but does not seems to run15:12
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paul-andreraymonjamecc: how about you set a time that is convenient for you and whoever can attend does?15:12
ad_rien_17th is eastern day15:12
ad_rien_s/run/well functionning15:12
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jamemccGood suggestion Paul I think if myself and Claude can't attend I won't put the option there15:13
ad_rien_can you extend to thursday15:13
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ad_rien_thursday afternoon would be perfect ?15:14
ad_rien_the 20th ?15:14
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ad_rien_1 or 2 UTC ?15:14
ad_rien_1:00 or 2:00 o'clock UTC ?15:14
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jamemccYes to 1 and 2 UTC - seems to be the time we can meet15:15
paul-andreraymonthat would be 8 or 9 am Central for the us.15:15
jamemccyes15:15
ad_rien_1:00/2:00 PM15:15
ad_rien_just to be clear enough and avoid confusions15:15
Menthosworks for me15:15
ad_rien_+115:15
paul-andreraymonIt works for me15:15
ad_rien_redhat folks ?15:15
jamemccAhh - sorry15:16
jamemccFor Claude he is in Pacific time15:16
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ansmith+115:16
jamemccSo he request not to book before 2 UTC15:16
ad_rien_1 UTC or even sooner?15:16
paul-andreraymon2 to 3 pm UTC works for me15:16
kgiustiI'll be traveling 4/20-2315:17
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ad_rien_jamemcc:  ?15:17
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paul-andreraymonCan we look at wednesday the 19th to accomodate kgiusti?15:18
ad_rien_I'm travelling :(15:18
ad_rien_but if the session can be recorded it is ok15:18
paul-andreraymon:-(15:18
ad_rien_I will give it a look after15:18
ad_rien_ok we can do it the week after15:18
kgiustiansmith: what's your schedule look like?15:18
ansmithworks for me15:18
ad_rien_on Monday 24th ?15:18
ad_rien_1:00 PM UTC ?15:19
kgiusti+1 4/2415:19
ansmith+115:19
Menthos24th won't work for me but if the session can be recorded that's great15:19
ad_rien_sorry 2 UTC to match Claude constraints15:19
rcherrueau+115:20
ad_rien_Menthos I will give you a summary ;)15:20
jamemccClaude can do the 24th.  It is also a User Committee meeting but I can do both as that one will be IRC15:20
Menthosad_rien_: thanks15:20
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ad_rien_so for the moment If I'm correct we are on Monday 24th at 2UTC ?15:20
paul-andreraymon+115:20
jamemccAgreed will send invite soon or at least before end of day15:20
kgiusti+115:21
ad_rien_#info ecomp presentation by webconf on Monday 24th 2:00 UTC15:21
ad_rien_jamemcc:  do we need to install something special (plugins, addons) ?15:21
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ad_rien_or will we receive mandatory information by mail?15:21
jamemccIt's a Skype for business meeting - so I think you can join with the normal skype client - how about I test with you first?15:22
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ad_rien_#action jamemcc will send invitations by mails. Please put your mail in the pad15:23
jamemccWant to make sure you can see the presentation and or whiteboard15:23
ad_rien_ok great15:23
ad_rien_thanks15:23
paul-andreraymonjamescc: I would be happy to volunteer my zoom bridge if that works better.15:23
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ad_rien_so I guess this point is now closed (please do not forget to put your email in the pad for receiving the invitation).15:23
jamemccOk Paul - IU've been wanting to try it15:23
ad_rien_Ok can we switch to the next point  ?15:24
paul-andreraymonI will email you offline.15:24
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ad_rien_#topic AMQP discussions15:24
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kgiustihey now!15:24
ad_rien_@rcherrueau @kgiusti15:24
ad_rien_:D15:24
ad_rien_please just go ahead15:25
kgiustiI've updated the epad with some preliminary testing done here at redhat15:25
kgiustiWe're just getting started testing various o.m. backend deployments15:25
kgiustiWe're working on a summit preso to go along with this.15:26
kgiustiI've also reached out to the other oslo.messenger backend devs to get involved.15:26
kgiustiSadly no response yet :(15:26
kgiustiI need someone with kafka and zeromq expertise15:26
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kgiustior I'm heading for a long learning curve :)15:27
kgiustiFor the next week we'll work on other testing scenarios and tuning.15:27
ad_rien_so right now you are focusing on RabbitMQ vs QPID ?15:27
ad_rien_is it correct ?15:27
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kgiustiTo be specific15:28
kgiusti'Qpid' is the apache project, 'qpidd' is the C++ broker, qdrouterd is the router... so15:28
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kgiustiwe're focusing now on rabbitmq + qdrouterd15:28
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ad_rien_Ok, thanks for claryfing this. From our side, we can open an action from our side to see with the performance team whether it is quite easy to deploy ZMQ.15:28
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ad_rien_since our framework is leveraging kolla15:29
ad_rien_we should check what are the efforts to be able to deploy zmq instead of rabbit15:29
kgiusti+1 to zmq testing15:29
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kgiustifrankly zmq is pretty low on the testing totem pole - due to scale lab resource constraints....15:30
ad_rien_regarding qpid, if I'm right providing the ansible playbook is stil an open action?15:30
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kgiustiyes I believe so - ansmith?15:30
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ansmithyes, still open15:31
ad_rien_with a possible milestone?15:31
ad_rien_:-P15:31
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ad_rien_just try to see from our side how we can define a reachable roadmap.15:31
ansmithtargeted to get done with containerization work, likely post summit15:31
ad_rien_until the summit, I think our effort will focus on vanilla openstack WAN evaluations15:32
ad_rien_Then we may have some additional efforts with Orange folks to dive into the oslo messaging questions15:32
kgiusti+115:32
ad_rien_@ansmith ack15:32
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ad_rien_ok15:33
ad_rien_I don't know whether jfpeltier joined us ?15:33
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ad_rien_I don't think so but15:33
ad_rien_you can find the presentation he gave us in the pad.15:33
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ad_rien_AFAIK, we have two pendings actions on that point15:35
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ad_rien_1./ summary the current exchanges related to AMQP (@rcherrueau)15:36
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rcherrueauad_rien_: yes, about that ... my first priority is finalising WAN experiements. So, I don't do my today's action.15:37
ad_rien_2./ have a summary of jfpeltier regarding his slides (and maybe to see what are the similarities w-r-t ombt15:37
ad_rien_yes I know, do not worry ;)15:37
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ad_rien_maybe regarding this second point, kgiusti you already has an idea?15:37
ad_rien_(BTW OSNoise is the AMQP stresser designed at Orange)15:38
ad_rien_?15:38
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kgiustiandy spent some time looking at the source15:38
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kgiustiand I think - though I have to confirm - that osnoise may only work with rabbitmq15:38
ad_rien_ok15:38
kgiustidue to the use of pika15:38
ad_rien_that is an important news indeed15:39
kgiustibut I need to confirm that - action item for me.15:39
ad_rien_#action clarify the rabbitMQ dependence of OSNoise15:39
ad_rien_ok thanks15:39
ad_rien_anyway I think both works are probably valuable but we should try to avoid reinventing the wheel ;)15:39
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ansmiththat is what I remember from a quick review15:40
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ad_rien_at least from our side, it would be great to see which is the best candidate to be integrated within the EnOS framework :-P15:40
kgiusti+115:40
ad_rien_ok15:41
ad_rien_anythink else regarding AMQP?15:41
kgiustinot at this time15:41
ad_rien_Do we need to prepare discussions for the forum session? (i.e. start to identify key questions?)15:41
rcherrueaukgiusti: ansmith: If I am right, amqp stresser use pika wich is supposed to be AMQP implementation independant.15:41
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kgiustimmmm - iirc pika only talks amqp 0-9 and 0-10, so no zmq and no qdrouterd15:42
rcherrueaukgiusti: ansmith: but we could discuss about that next meeting15:42
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kgiusti+115:42
ansmithombt uses oslo.messaging so would lend itself to swapping out backends15:42
rcherrueaukgiusti: Oh! OK15:43
rcherrueauansmith: yes focusing on oslo.messaging is a good idea15:43
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kgiustiad_rien_: to clarify - are you talking about the oslo.messaging forum?15:43
ad_rien_yes15:44
ad_rien_?15:44
ad_rien_the second slot?15:44
kgiustiad_rien_: ok15:44
kgiustiyes15:44
kgiustithe goal is to set out a plan by which we can come up with deployment recommendations15:44
ad_rien_so should we iterate by mail to move forward on that point ?15:44
ad_rien_maybe by going on the next thread?15:45
kgiustisure thing15:45
ad_rien_@rcherrueau @paul-andreraymon @all; what do you think ?15:45
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ad_rien_ok so seems that we can go on by mail.15:46
ad_rien_on that point.15:46
ad_rien_anything else? can we move to the next topic?15:46
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ad_rien_#topic EnOS15:46
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ad_rien_So maybe find additional things regarding EnOS.15:47
ad_rien_@rcherrueau suceeded to integrate OSProfiler15:47
ad_rien_within EnOS. This means that now when we perform performance evaluations we also get OSProfiler traces15:47
rcherrueauI am working on a tool that queries these traces15:48
ad_rien_This is valuable as it gives us  lot of information in addition to delivering sequence diagrams (ie. exchange/interactions between core-serivces)15:48
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* ad_rien_ is looking for a link15:48
rcherrueauThe idea is to get information on the workflow, e.g., where RPC happens ...15:49
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ad_rien_#link https://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/_images/provision-an-instance.png sequence diagram exemple15:49
ad_rien_so right now it is not as fine as the figure I copied/pasted above but the idea is to get such diagrams.15:50
ad_rien_This will help us to better understand/identify all messages. this is important for the WAN context15:50
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ad_rien_so we will be able to finely study the impact of the exchanges and try to elaborate what are the best deployment scenarios (if your remind we identify a few scenarios on google slides)15:51
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ad_rien_last but not the least as mentioned we are performing a few preliminary experiments. I hope we will have more information next time.15:52
ad_rien_Ok15:52
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ad_rien_so let's move to the last topic15:52
ad_rien_#topic Boston face to face meeting15:52
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ad_rien_I opened an etherpad15:52
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ad_rien_and I encourage you to add points that you would like to discuss during our session.15:52
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ad_rien_maybe it would be great to identify concrete actions/objectives for the R cycle?15:53
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ad_rien_I would also appreciate if you can add in the pad the presentation you think might be related to the massively distributed WG15:54
ad_rien_so that's all from my side.15:54
ad_rien_#topic open discussion15:55
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ad_rien_we have 5 minutes left?15:55
ad_rien_should we raise something particular ?15:55
ad_rien_looks not15:56
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ad_rien_so thanks for joining the meeting15:56
paul-andreraymonAnyone has any thought on impact of MD on Nova scheduler?15:56
ad_rien_and please do not forget to ammend/complete the etherpad in order to be more fruitful we can during the next summit15:56
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ad_rien_MD?15:56
ad_rien_paul-andreraymon:  ?15:56
paul-andreraymonMAssively distributed15:56
ad_rien_ok15:56
ad_rien_I can add that to the next agenda15:57
ad_rien_there are ongoing activities at Orange15:57
ad_rien_and IBM made a work using redis15:57
ad_rien_(they should have presented this at the Barcelona summit but the presentation has been cancelled).15:57
ad_rien_So let's add that to the agenda next time15:57
ad_rien_ok ?15:57
paul-andreraymonGreat!15:57
ad_rien_Maybe you also have some points in mind paul-andreraymon?15:58
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ad_rien_ideas ?15:58
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ad_rien_ok thanks15:58
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ad_rien_So let's conclude our meeting15:58
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ad_rien_#action add scheduling decision to the agenda15:58
Menthos#endmeeting15:58
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
smcginnisping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov16:00
mdovgalhi16:00
smcginniswxy viks ketonne abishop sivn breitz16:00
rajiniro/16:00
patrickeastHi16:00
geguileoHi!16:00
tbarronhi16:00
tommylikehuhi16:00
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jungleboyjo/16:00
Swansonhello16:00
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e0nehi16:00
wxy|hi16:00
xyang1Hi16:00
smcginnisHey everyone.16:00
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smcginnis#topic Announcements16:01
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smcginnis#info Pike-1 milestone cut16:01
Rockyghey sean!  now I'm leaving again16:01
smcginnisRockyg: :)16:01
smcginnisSince Pike-1 doesn't have any specific Cinder items, I've already done the release for that milestone.16:02
diablo_rojo_phonHello :)16:02
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smcginnisI think some good progress so far, but quite a few decent patches sitting out there.16:02
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smcginnisPlease, please, do reviews if you have the cycles.16:03
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cuhler0/16:03
smcginnisAnd especially cores, please also review cinder-specs too. There's a few of those that we want to get in Pike that could use some attention.16:04
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tommylikehu+116:04
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smcginnis#topic How should we clean up the expired user messages?16:04
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smcginnistommylikehu: All yours.16:05
tommylikehuyes, I think this part is left by sheer. As we already has this feature merged, we should consider how to clean the expired messages out.16:05
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abishopo/16:05
eharneyi think the original plan was to use a periodic task, which still seems like a good idea16:05
e0neIMO, cinder-manage command will be good for this16:05
smcginniseharney: That's what I thought.16:05
eharneye0ne: i disagree16:05
tommylikehuwow16:05
cFoutso/16:05
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tommylikehuwe should have a decision16:05
eharneyno real reason to push this off to a manual admin action when we can just do it from within the service16:06
smcginnisI would like it to be automatic and not something an operator would have to remember to do.16:06
smcginniseharney: +116:06
tommylikehuI like the automatically way16:06
mdovgali think we can make both variants16:06
e0neeharney: good point16:06
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tommylikehumdovgal why both16:06
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:06
smcginnismdovgal: We could, but is there a benefit?16:06
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e0neI won't argue if community decides to have periodic job for it16:07
mdovgaltommylikehu, why not? maybe i need to clean up it immediately, not to wait when periodic task will be triggered16:07
smcginnisAnyone have any argument for not making it a periodic task that's done automatically?16:07
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tommylikehusmcginnis:  we can delete when inserting16:08
tommylikehuonce a day maybe16:08
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mdovgalto which service will this task be connected?16:08
tommylikehubut I prefer the perodic task16:08
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eharneycinder-volume i'd assume16:08
smcginnismdovgal: I think you are right we could do both. But I think I would rather make it automatic first, then wait to see if there is operator feedback that they need a manual method before we implement that.16:09
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smcginnismdovgal: That make sense?16:09
mdovgalsmcginnis, i think it's ok16:09
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cFoutssmcginnis: +116:09
smcginnismdovgal: Cool16:09
geguileoHow are we going to trigger the automatic removal?16:09
tommylikehuwhen expired16:09
geguileoNo, I mean how the task is going to be fired16:10
tommylikehucheck the records after a period16:10
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mdovgaltommylikehu, just to check count of records? or datetime of them?16:11
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tommylikehuI think the datetime would be ok16:11
tommylikehuor the expired_at column16:11
geguileotommylikehu: How is the method that does the cleanup going to be started/run?16:11
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cFoutsgeguileo: periodic_task?16:12
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Yeah, periodic task in cinder-volume?16:12
geguileocFouts: where? and how do you make sure it only runs once and not in multiple services?16:12
cFoutsah16:12
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jungleboyjOh ...16:12
tommylikehuwhy not scheduler16:12
geguileojungleboyj: What happens when you have multiple c-vol services?16:12
geguileotommylikehu: Same issue16:12
tommylikehuok16:12
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Yeah, that just hit me.16:12
geguileoWe don't have a leader, so they could all trigger it16:12
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smcginnisgeguileo: Good point. But would that really cause a problem if multiple services ran it?16:13
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geguileosmcginnis: Depends on the queries they do and how many services you have running them16:13
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geguileoas they could come in waves16:13
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geguileoevey though you could add a randomization to the period of the start of the task16:14
smcginnisgeguileo: Dont' know, but wouldn't it just be a DELETE WHERE expired_at > now, so one service would delete all records, the rest would just pass.16:14
geguileosmcginnis: If that's all it really takes then it's ok16:14
smcginnisYeah, not sure.16:14
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tommylikehusmcginnis: +116:15
geguileojust wanted to bring it up in case it turned out to be more complex16:15
smcginnistommylikehu: But I think we have an answer. We can debate implementation details in a review if you want to implement something.16:15
wxy|FYI, this's what glance does for the expired task: when users list tasks, glance will delete the expired ones at the same time.16:15
smcginniswxy|: Only on the list request?16:15
wxy|smcginnis: yeah16:15
smcginnisProblem I see with that is if no one asks for them, they just accumulate.16:16
smcginnisNot sure if that would actually be the case though.16:16
tommylikehuit could16:16
smcginnisBut I kind of like the periodic task idea better at this point.16:16
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tommylikehusmcginnis: I can pick up that implementation16:16
smcginnistommylikehu: Great, thanks! OK if we move on then.16:16
tommylikehuthanks16:16
wxy|https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L150216:16
smcginniswxy|: Thanks16:17
e0necinder-manage with cron job could be an option in a future16:17
smcginnis#topic How should we support like filters for name/description etc columns?16:17
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smcginnise0ne: Could work too, but requires outside configuration. Certainly a possibility though.16:17
tommylikehulet's assume we would have like filter in the future :)16:17
smcginnis:)16:17
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tommylikehuwill we support both exact-match and inexact-match for one columns?16:18
smcginnisjgriffith: You around? I know you had some opinions on filtering.16:18
jgriffithI am now :)16:18
tommylikehusomething like  'cinder list --filters name=vol' and 'cinder list --filters name%=vol'16:18
jgriffithLiterally just logged on16:18
tommylikehujgriffith:  thanks16:19
smcginnisjgriffith: Timing is everything. ;)16:19
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jgriffithso I'm not a fan of the "filter on all things", that being said I talked to tommylikehu last night and if people would like this functionality that's cool; we could work it into the proposed generic filter design that I proposed16:19
jgriffithbut honestly a lot of this is overkill IMO, if people need this that badly just write your own client/shell script to do it16:20
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jgriffiththat's all I have :P16:20
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tbarron+1 for integrating it into the proposed generic filter design16:21
smcginnistbarron: Agree16:21
tommylikehujgriffith, tbarron  I just updated my spec to take advantages of jgriffith 's pne16:21
tommylikehuone16:21
tommylikehuhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/442982/16:22
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tommylikehuit seems that no one cares about this topic on whether we should support them bothv:(16:22
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tommylikehuboth :(16:22
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smcginnisI do think if we're going to provide filtering on the service side, it would be a better user experience to be able to do both.16:23
tommylikehuyes :)16:23
tbarronsmcginnis: +116:23
smcginnisI think folks care but are still thinking through it. ;)16:24
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smcginnistommylikehu: OK, unless anyone brings up a strong argument against both, I think we have an answer.16:24
tommylikehuthanks, that's clear16:24
smcginnis#topic remotefs based 3rd party CIs broken16:24
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smcginnisThis was added by kaisers1 but he wasn't able to attend16:25
smcginnisremotefs drivers are broken right now apparently.16:25
smcginnishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/168140616:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1681406 in Cinder "RemoteFS: volume cascade delete fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lucian Petrut (petrutlucian94)16:25
smcginnis#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455256/ Proposed fix.16:25
smcginnisSo I think he wanted this in the meeting agenda to just raise awareness.16:26
smcginnisConsider it raised.16:26
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jungleboyjI feel aware.16:26
* smcginnis imagines jungleboyj glowing with enlightenment16:26
smcginnis:)16:27
smcginnis#topic Open Discussion16:27
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* jungleboyj laughs ... If only.16:27
smcginnisAnything else to discuss today?16:27
smcginnisSummit is coming up.16:27
smcginnisHope to see a lot of folks there.16:27
smcginnisOr at least at "the forum"16:27
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jungleboyjLooked like hotels were filling up so ...16:27
mdovgalI have one little question16:27
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Swanson?16:28
mdovgalthere is one blueprint about cascade backup delete https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cascade-delete-backup16:28
mdovgal#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cascade-delete-backup16:29
mdovgalDo somebody have any problems with it implementation in future?16:29
e0neit should be a useful feature for incremental backups16:29
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xyang2might be nice to have this16:29
smcginnismdovgal: Just approved it.16:30
cuhlerAnother question: We're working on CI for Veritas os-brick connector, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442754. Is CI needed before merge?16:30
cuhlerNova team said they want connector merged before starting to review the Veritas Nova volume driver that depends on it (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443951)16:30
mdovgalsmcginnis, nice. thank you16:30
smcginnismdovgal: No problem.16:30
diablo_rojocuhler, its not required no, but its strongly advised16:30
smcginniscuhler: Our policy has been if you have a specific connector in os-brick then it is strongly advised to have CI coverage.16:30
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smcginniscuhler: I mainly wanted some record on there as to the plans for that, and I see it was added.16:31
smcginniscuhler: I don't think we need to block the review waiting on that.16:31
cuhlerOkay. Can the CI be driven by the unmerged Nova volume driver, or is Nova somehow simulated?16:31
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smcginniscuhler: Yeah, I think it would have to be a cherry pick of your driver into nova or something.16:32
smcginniscuhler: Until that merges in Nova at least.16:32
cuhlerok, that clarifies things. Thx16:32
cuhlerdone16:32
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smcginnisOh, next PTG announced in case anyone missed that.16:33
smcginnisDenver the week of Sept 11.16:34
diablo_rojoMOAR torchy's tacos!16:34
smcginnis:)16:34
SwansonDenver? Spit.16:34
jungleboyj:-)  I had that thought too.16:34
smcginnisBugsmash even taking place the week after the summit.16:34
smcginnisI like Denver!16:34
SwansonYou would.16:35
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:35
smcginnisI've heard their brownies are fantastic.16:35
xyang2cool!  no international travel16:35
smcginnis:D16:35
mdovgalNot NBA time on the 11 of Sept :(16:35
diablo_rojoIt was cheaper than our other option and ATL both so hopefully that helps people get there.16:35
jungleboyjSounds like the PTG after that will international though.16:35
smcginnis+116:35
xyang2jungleboyj: is it?16:35
smcginnisActually glad to see the PTG alternate since we were never able to get that going with the midcycle.16:35
jungleboyjsmcginnis: True.16:36
jungleboyjxyang2:  Yeah, I think they were talking Europe.16:36
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Probably knows more.  :-)16:36
xyang2jungleboyj: well, too early to worry about that now:)16:36
smcginnis:)16:37
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smcginnisAnything else today?16:37
diablo_rojojungleboyj, I know of places we are looking at but we are FAR from a decision so I don't know all that much more :)16:37
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Cool.16:37
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: Then next two summits are Sydney and Vancouver, right.16:37
diablo_rojosmcginnis, yep :)16:38
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smcginnisOK, sounds like we are pretty much done here. Thanks everyone.16:38
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smcginnisPlease do reviews! :)16:38
SwansonUnited tickets should be cheap and plentiful. Buy your airfare now.16:38
smcginnisLOL16:38
e0ne:)16:38
viks:D16:39
jungleboyjBwah ha ha16:39
xyang2Swanson: Never United!:)16:39
smcginnisSwanson: At this rate you can just buy the whole plane.16:39
viksthey are not that cheap still16:39
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  That would be awesome!16:39
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bh526r_#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 18:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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bh526r_#topic Roll Call18:00
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bh526r_#info Bin Hu18:00
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:01
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bh526r_Hi Kamil18:01
jinliHi everyone18:01
georgk#info Georg Kunz18:01
krenczewskiHi Bin18:01
jinli#info JinLi18:01
bh526r_Hi Georg and Jin18:01
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bh526r_#topic Admin Update18:02
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bh526r_#info Our submission to Forum:18:02
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georgkhi all18:02
bh526r_#link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/4718:02
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bh526r_#info was rejected18:02
bh526r_#info details of reason can be found in above link18:03
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bh526r_#topic Status Update of PoC in OpenStack Summit18:03
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bh526r_#info 1. PoC Scenario Description was agreed a few weeks ago, and it stays the same18:04
bh526r_#info But we need a documented demo script. Bin will draft it for everyone to review18:05
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bh526r_#action Bin draft demo script for PoC in OpenStack Summit18:05
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bh526r_#info 2. Lab in Germany - running stably18:05
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bh526r_georgk, do you want to add something more?18:06
georgkyes, the Nova issues have been resolved18:06
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bh526r_#info Nova issue was resolved, and VM can be booted18:07
georgkwe had problems due to re-installing some OpenStack packages with pip while the services were running18:07
georgkrestarting the services solved the issue18:07
bh526r_#info There were problems due to re-installing some OpenStack packages with pip while the services were running18:07
bh526r_#info restarting the services solved the issue18:07
bh526r_The dependency is always a headache18:08
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bh526r_#info 3. Contrail Status18:08
krenczewskiI was able to run Contrail18:09
bh526r_#info Kamil was able to run Contrail18:09
krenczewskiand authenticate with keystone on 192.168.0.6 node18:10
bh526r_#info and authenticate with keystone on 192.168.0.6 node18:10
bh526r_So can Mechanism Driver work with Contrail now?18:10
krenczewskiproblem was that one of interfaces was up without IP affress and zookeeper couldn't handle this18:10
krenczewskiStill need to resolve issue with Service Monitor service18:11
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bh526r_I see18:11
krenczewskithen I'll deploy mechanism driver18:11
bh526r_#info Problem was that one of interfaces was up without IP affress and zookeeper couldn't handle this18:11
bh526r_#info So still need to resolve issue with Service Monitor service18:12
bh526r_#info Then Kamil will deploy Mechanism Driver18:12
bh526r_Good progress, Kamil18:12
krenczewskiI don't want to do this without Contrail fully working because any issues woud be impossible to resolve18:12
bh526r_That's right. So make sure Contrail fully working first.18:12
bh526r_Then if there is any issue later, we can isolate the issue more easily18:13
bh526r_Keep up your good work, Kamil. Thank you18:13
krenczewskiThank you18:14
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bh526r_#info 4. L3VPN API - Parameter List for BGP Peering18:14
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450917/18:14
bh526r_#info Georg will update the patch based on Jin's comments18:15
bh526r_#info 5. SFC YAML and API18:15
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bh526r_#info Georg is completing the draft, and under internal review18:15
bh526r_#info Georg will submit this patch in a few days18:16
bh526r_#info 6. P2P YAML and API18:16
bh526r_#info Robert is working on it, and will submit the patch in a few days18:16
bh526r_#info 7. ELAN YAML and API18:17
bh526r_#info Eric has provided Ian with the ELAN YANG Model18:17
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bh526r_#info Bin will follow up with Ian on this subject18:17
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bh526r_#action Bin follows up with Ian on ELAN YAML and API18:18
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bh526r_#info 8. Misc18:18
bh526r_#info There is a new patch to support all API YAML Models by default18:19
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456283/18:19
bh526r_#info Current code supports net-l3vpn as default. If we add new YAML model, we need to change proton.conf. If someone forgets to change proton.conf, even if new model is added, Proton Server will still only pick up net-l3vpn18:20
bh526r_#info In order to improve usability and make adding new YAML model and API easier, this patch will support all models by default. Whenever a model is added, Proton Server will pick it up without having to change proton.conf18:22
bh526r_#info All are encouraged to review and comment the code18:22
bh526r_#info This will also make demo/PoC easier - only need to add/remove model, rebuild and restart proton-server without changing proton.conf18:23
bh526r_any other thing / update for PoC?18:23
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bh526r_#topic Pike Release and Patches18:24
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bh526r_#info 1. New "Network Type" in Neutron18:24
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bh526r_#info Bin had conversation with Sukhdev yesterday. The idea that Sukhdev proposes will still lead to previous 2 RFEs, i.e. (1) optional Network and Subnet, and (2) new network characteristics attribute18:26
bh526r_#info Sukhdev will document it, for further review and discussion. But previous 2 RFEs are needed based on conversation18:27
bh526r_#info 2. Approved patches18:27
bh526r_#info First is Remove unused import statements18:28
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446776/18:28
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bh526r_#info It was approved and merged on March 22, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448775/)18:29
bh526r_#info Second is Fixing DB test after sqlite_db config option was removed18:29
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451989/18:29
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bh526r_#info It was approved and merged on March 31, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452268/)18:30
bh526r_#info Third is Fixing broken import statement18:30
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451722/18:30
bh526r_#info It was approved and merged on March 31, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452357/)18:31
bh526r_#info Fourth is Remove translation of log messages from gluon18:31
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bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453970/18:31
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bh526r_#info It was approved and merged on April 6, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454286/)18:32
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bh526r_#info Fifth is Refined installation instructions18:34
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452980/18:34
bh526r_#info It was approved and merged on April 6, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454508/)18:35
bh526r_#info Sixth is Base URI return values18:35
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453929/18:36
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bh526r_#info It was approved and merged this morning (April 12), and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456234/)18:36
bh526r_#info 2. Outstanding Patches18:36
bh526r_#info There are a few outstanding patches.18:37
bh526r_#info Two were mentioned when we discussed PoC Status. Please review and comment18:37
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450917/18:38
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bh526r_#link      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456283/18:38
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bh526r_#info Others include18:38
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bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453519/18:39
bh526r_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430446/18:39
bh526r_#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404069/18:39
bh526r_#info There are review comments and -1, so authors are expected to resolve the comments and update with new patches18:40
bh526r_#topic AOB18:40
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bh526r_anything else you want to discuss?18:40
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georgkFYI: just pushed an update for the L3VPN model extension18:41
bh526r_Great, and thank you Georg.18:41
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bh526r_I see Jin +118:42
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bh526r_I suggest we approve it18:42
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bh526r_#info Georg updated the patch of Extending L3VPN model to configure BGP peerings.18:44
bh526r_#info Group agreed to approve it, and Bin takes the action18:44
bh526r_Anything else?18:45
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bh526r_If nothing else, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 15 minutes18:45
bh526r_#info Meeting adjourned18:45
bh526r_thank you everyone, and bye all18:46
bh526r_#endmeeting18:46
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krenczewskiThanks, bye18:46
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SotKtime for storyboard!19:00
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SotK#startmeeting storyboard19:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 19:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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zara_the_lemur__:D19:00
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SotK#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda19:00
SotKI actually updated the agenda this week19:00
zara_the_lemur__nice!19:00
SotK#topic Announcements19:00
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SotKstill nothing here19:00
SotK#topic Urgent Items19:01
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SotKnor here19:01
SotK#topic In Progress Work19:01
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SotKlets talk about migration testing first19:01
diablo_rojoI meant to update my patch by this meeting, but I have gotten pulled into other things. It's my priority by the end of the week though.19:01
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diablo_rojoSounds good19:01
SotKnp :)19:02
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SotKI only got round to testing Kuryr, but I'm happy to report that it seems to have worked fine19:02
zara_the_lemur__I'm running a migration right now19:02
zara_the_lemur__though not against prod db19:02
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zara_the_lemur__I'll probably do a bunch of projects in a big lump this evening19:02
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diablo_rojoSotK, I'll go chat to Kuryr and see if they are interested19:03
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* SotK intends to test Congress after this meeting19:04
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diablo_rojoSweet :)19:04
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SotKin other news, my board optimisation patches are waiting for further review (thanks for the +1 diablo_rojo)19:06
SotKand I also sent a bunch of patches to make search less deceitful with its URLs19:06
diablo_rojoSotK, no problem :)19:06
zara_the_lemur__ah, cool19:06
diablo_rojoThanks :)19:06
SotKand also to make it properly supported to filter stories by multiple tags at once19:07
diablo_rojoI'm trying to stay on top of reviews to keep things moving forward.19:07
zara_the_lemur__I got round to reviewing some of the project/project group name min/max length patches19:07
diablo_rojoThat part is awesome19:07
zara_the_lemur__which are awaiting further +2s19:07
SotKso the zuulv3 + low-hanging-fruit use case that came up a while back looks less hacky now :D19:07
SotKzara_the_lemur__: I'll review them today too19:07
diablo_rojoLess hacky is good.19:08
zara_the_lemur__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445965/19:08
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zara_the_lemur__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452637/19:08
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zara_the_lemur__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452641/19:09
zara_the_lemur__(and there's one for the webclient to correspond to that one, but I haven't got round to it yet. I try to do 'oldest first' when there's a review backlog.)19:10
* zara_the_lemur__ will try to review some of the boards patches etc tonight19:11
SotKthanks :)19:11
zara_the_lemur__I have sent a single solitary patch19:11
zara_the_lemur__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455788/19:12
zara_the_lemur__I noticed that while setting up my new sb instance for testing migrations...19:12
zara_the_lemur__we default to installing node.js 0.10.29 for the webclient19:12
zara_the_lemur__released June 201419:13
SotKheh, that is rather old19:13
zara_the_lemur__:)19:13
zara_the_lemur__that patch updates it to the newest LTS19:13
zara_the_lemur__I didn't notice it breaking anything19:13
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SotK\o/19:14
SotKI will try to get to testing it in the near future19:15
SotKlikely not today though19:15
diablo_rojoNot breaking things is always the best way to go :)19:15
zara_the_lemur__thanks19:15
zara_the_lemur__yeah, it's survived this far; I don't think it's urgent19:15
zara_the_lemur__just general maintenance stuff19:16
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diablo_rojoI will take a look.19:16
diablo_rojoShould I make an etherpad of projects and say which ones have been tested and who is planning on testing what?19:17
zara_the_lemur__it's easier if you make a story19:17
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zara_the_lemur__(that's easier for me to find again later etc, at least)19:18
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diablo_rojoA story for each project?19:19
diablo_rojoTHats a lot of stories19:19
* SotK thinks one story, with "test $project" tasks19:19
* zara_the_lemur__ was thinking a story with a task per project19:19
zara_the_lemur__snap19:19
diablo_rojoGot it. Can do19:20
zara_the_lemur__thanks :)19:21
SotKindeed, thanks diablo_rojo19:21
SotKis there anything else in progress?19:21
SotK#topic Open Discussion19:22
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diablo_rojoI changed this to be not just Monasca- I will put them here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200087619:22
zara_the_lemur__thanks!19:22
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zara_the_lemur__I don't thiiiiink I have anything to discuss19:24
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* SotK will leave it a few minutes in case anyone pops up19:26
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diablo_rojoI dont think I have anything either.19:27
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SotK#endmeeting19:30
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SotKthanks folks :)19:30
zara_the_lemur__thanks :)19:31
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ekhugen#startmeeting wos_mentoring20:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 12 20:01:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
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ekhugenHi, who's here for women of openstack mentoring?20:01
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NicoleHHi, Emily! I'm here!20:04
ekhugenHi Nicole!20:05
ekhugenhow ar eyou?20:05
ekhugenare you*20:05
NicoleHDoing ok. How are you?!20:06
ekhugenokay, this meeting came up really quickly!20:06
ekhugenit does not seem like 4pm already!20:06
NicoleHit did, didn't it?20:06
NicoleHi just received the final images of the baseball caps.20:07
diablo_rojoHello :)20:07
NicoleHHi there, diablo_rojo!20:07
ekhugenoh awesome Nicole20:08
ekhugenHi Kendall!20:08
diablo_rojoNicoleH, can we see?20:08
NicoleHyep -- i'll send right now20:09
diablo_rojoI can't believe the summit is only in like three weeks.20:10
ekhugenI know, it's way too quick!20:11
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diablo_rojoAnd I have dockercon next week so I have like two weeks..20:12
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NicoleHjust sent the images20:12
* diablo_rojo looks20:12
ekhugenoh and diablo_rojo, I can't believe I'm just noticing this, but do we have only 1 hour for the speed mentoring lunch?20:12
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diablo_rojoLooks like20:13
diablo_rojoHow long did we have before?20:13
ekhugenI think we did 1 hour 15 minutes before20:13
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ekhugenI'm just thinking maybe we should cut each round of speed mentoring down to 10 minutes20:14
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diablo_rojoekhugen, Might be a good idea.20:14
ekhugenoh those are awesome NicoleH!20:15
diablo_rojoOMG CAN I HAVE ONE20:15
diablo_rojoTHEY ARE SO AWESOME20:15
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NicoleHoh, awesome -- i'm so happy that you guys like them!20:17
diablo_rojoNicoleH, they look so good. You did a great job :)20:18
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NicoleHoh, cool! well, we've made extras, so that we can each have one!20:18
* ekhugen thinks NicoleH is the coolest20:18
diablo_rojoekhugen, +120:18
NicoleHyou guys are so awesome!20:19
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ekhugenso it looks like we have 16 mentors signed up in the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_TXXQnITg4VqixppmxZAaJB2QnJOxbso_Kv5Y1C2Us/edit#gid=020:20
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ekhugenNicoleH are you okay to pull baseball card info from there? or do you want any help extracting it?20:21
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NicoleHi can pull it from there20:21
NicoleHshould we do one final push for mentors?20:21
diablo_rojoLet me see if I can get registration numbers real quick20:22
diablo_rojoAnd we can see the proportion20:22
ekhugenthanks diablo_rojo20:22
NicoleHwe had originally targeted 20-25 mentors.20:22
NicoleHthat'd be great, diablo_rojo!20:22
NicoleHalso, do we have the survey responses from mentees?20:23
diablo_rojoNicoleH, I can get those too probably, when do you want them by?20:24
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ekhugendoes it make sense to just have them the day or two before the prep call next week?20:25
NicoleHwe originally planned to have them sifted through by the time of the mentor prep meeting so that we can share them with mentors then, so that mentors can prepare.20:25
diablo_rojoOkay I can ask Jimmy to get those right now too then.20:25
NicoleHso, if we can get them by next mon/tue, then we can be prepared to share them next wed.20:25
NicoleHoh, cool -- that'd be great!20:25
diablo_rojoAs for mentors we have 20 signed up right now.20:25
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ekhugenmentors? or mentees?20:26
diablo_rojoif you look at the google sheet its a little behind- the integration broke so I have to do a dump of them20:26
diablo_rojoMentrs20:26
diablo_rojoMentors20:26
diablo_rojoI am still waiting on the mentees :)20:26
ekhugenohhh okay, that's even better then!20:26
diablo_rojoHa ha yeah :)20:27
NicoleHoh, cool -- 20 is a good number! i'll do final outreach in twitter -- i'll use the images of the baseball caps. look for that sometime today.20:28
ekhugen+1 NicoleH20:28
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diablo_rojoSo....we need to promote the session more. We only have 5 mentees signed up..20:31
ekhugenoh ouch20:31
ekhugenyes20:31
diablo_rojoYeah that was what I said. Ouch.20:31
ekhugenis there a list of first time attendees that the foundation has?20:31
ekhugenI wonder if we could target them specifically20:32
diablo_rojoCan we send emails to all those signed up in our normal mentoring program?20:32
diablo_rojoI can look into that20:32
ekhugenwe're not likely to reach them on twitter and they may not even follow the listservs yet20:32
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diablo_rojoCould just send something out to the WoO list again and to the regular dev list20:33
diablo_rojoMaybe general too20:33
diablo_rojo?20:33
ekhugensure, I can do a similar email like the one I sent for the call for mentors20:34
NicoleHugh, yikes, huh?!20:34
NicoleH+1 emily!20:34
NicoleHlet me know how i can help!20:36
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ekhugenthanks, I think I'll copy out my other email and just reword it a bit20:37
ekhugenhow about the slides for next week?20:38
ekhugenI've been making some tweaks as we've been talking20:38
NicoleHi've been looking at them too!20:40
diablo_rojoI made comments on the two things I saw, and since its lunch time I wont have the keynote conflict so I took that out20:40
ekhugenthanks!20:41
ekhugenI'm thinking maybe for slide 6, we should leave more time at the beginning, for people to grab lunch?20:42
ekhugendo 15 mins at the beginning and 10 mins at the end?20:42
NicoleHsounds good20:42
diablo_rojo+120:43
NicoleHat some point, we'll need to finalize the team of helpers20:43
diablo_rojoDo that after the mentor prep meeting?20:44
NicoleHyep, sounds good!20:44
ekhugenI think we could do that at a monday WOS meeting maybe?20:44
ekhugensince that's where they came from?20:45
NicoleHdiablo_rojo, did you say there are currently 20 mentors who signed up?20:45
NicoleHi only see 16 in the spreadsheet20:45
ekhugenI think she said the links between the survey and spreadsheet broke20:46
NicoleHi'm going to start extracting the info from the spreadsheet this week & getting it over to our designer20:46
NicoleHoh, i see!20:46
diablo_rojoYeah the link broke, I will update the spreadsheet with the formstack info20:48
NicoleHawesome, thanks! i'll start pulling the info & creating the cards.20:49
ekhugenso to recap todos:  Emily needs to send out call for mentees and make sure all mentors and volunteers are invited to the meeting, we need to verify the list of volunteers, Kendall is going to get the spreadsheet updated and send out the mentee questions, Nicole is going to finalize the awesome swag and table cards20:49
ekhugenswag = caps and cards20:49
diablo_rojoSounds right to me20:49
NicoleHyep!20:49
NicoleHyou guys rock!20:49
ekhugenanything we're missing?20:50
ekhugenyou've done so much work on the caps and cards, Nicole, we're just trying to keep up!20:50
NicoleHi think this is going to be a great session! let me know how i can help corral more mentees!20:51
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ekhugenif you have any more ideas to get more mentees, we should share them20:51
NicoleHwould be so nice to have a great showing among our mentees. then take a group pic of the mentors & mentees together!20:51
ekhugenbut I think maybe people will show up last minute, since it's lunch, they can wander in20:52
ekhugen+1 on the group pic idea20:52
NicoleHi think you guys had some great ideas for emailing mailing lists ...20:53
diablo_rojoOkay its updated20:53
NicoleHif the foundation can help spread the word, that'd be fantastic!20:53
diablo_rojoI will see what we can do :)20:53
ekhugenthanks diablo_rojo20:54
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NicoleHcool!20:54
NicoleHjust had a thought ...20:54
NicoleHi haven't been able to join the recent WoS meetings ... will there be any WoS greeters at registration this time around, like there was in barcelona?20:55
ekhugenyes, I think there will be20:55
diablo_rojoNicoleH, yeah I think they were talking about that20:55
NicoleHif so, perhaps we can spread the word through the greeters? either via word of mouth, or we could print fun little cards that the greeters can hand out?20:56
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diablo_rojoWe should do a plug in one of their meetings for sure20:57
NicoleH+120:57
ekhugenthey have been listing us in their meetings20:57
ekhugenI'm not sure if they're doing a sheet to hand out this time or not20:57
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ekhugenbut I think there's a meeting on Monday, we can ask then20:58
NicoleHcool!20:58
knangiahi , sorry for being so late20:59
ekhugenokay, well we're at the top of the hour, if anyone thinks of anything else, send email20:59
knangiahad a meeting clash20:59
ekhugenthanks everyone!20:59
ekhugennp knangia, I'll post the logs to the etherpad20:59
NicoleHthanks!20:59
ekhugen#endmeeting20:59
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knangiathanks ekhugen20:59
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notmynameno swift team meeting today21:02
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