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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 05:30 |
|---|---|---|
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 05:30:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| gongysh | hi | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: hi ! | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker meeting? | 05:31 |
| tung_doan_ | hi all | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | tung_doan_: howdy! | 05:31 |
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| sripriya | o/ | 05:31 |
| tbh | o/ | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: tbh: hi | 05:32 |
| diga_ | o/ | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | Janki is travelling, may not make it | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: are you here? | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | diga_: hi | 05:32 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, o/ | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | alright, let's start... | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:33 | |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Feb_15th.2C_2017 | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcement | 05:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info sridhar_ram last meeting as PTL :) | 05:33 |
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| diga_ | ohhh.... | 05:34 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, ai.... | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | Tacker logo files are available here vvvv | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yyt1lazllah7ccf/AACkW8LkIiG32OXLYBqeP-RJa?dl=0 | 05:34 |
| tung_doan_ | sridhar_ram: should be a special meeting :)) | 05:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | Please start using this in powerpoint and webpages.. | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | tung_doan_: gongysh: :) | 05:35 |
| * sridhar_ram note to self, update Tacker wiki with this logo | 05:35 | |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 05:35 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, Just want to remind to put them on wiki. | 05:35 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: thanks for running these meetings as PTL diligently | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: sure, will do | 05:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: thanks.. but you all made this an amazing time | 05:36 |
| diga_ | sridhar_ram: Thanks for efforts & leading Tacker from its incubation. I appreciate your work | 05:36 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: we have a good team indeed | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | diga_: thanks a lot! | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: +100 | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | we will go to Ocata Release and PTG topics .. anything else beyond those two items? | 05:37 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, it is always a great experience working under your guidance | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks .. | 05:37 |
| diga_ | sridhar_ram: you are welcome! :) | 05:37 |
| * sridhar_ram reaches for cleanex tissues to wipe the soob | 05:37 | |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Ocata Release | 05:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Release (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:38 | |
| sridhar_ram | This is release week .. | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | most blocking items are taken care .. | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | i created this etherpad to track any outstanding items.. | 05:39 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-ocata-rel-checklist | 05:39 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: we need a relnotes for a NSD | 05:39 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, sure, will put it today | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks for taking the sriov fix.. | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: can you respin based on gongysh comments ? | 05:41 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, sure | 05:41 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, Regarding https://review.openstack.org/431855 . Do we needs MANIFEST file? | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: yes, it is used by packagers like RDO and Ubuntu | 05:42 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, ass in some other components, I observed that they are removing it Ex https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369154/ | 05:42 |
| gongysh | I thought it is for package. | 05:42 |
| dkushwaha | s/ass/as | 05:42 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: i recently learnt from OPNFV / tripleo teams .. it is important to have it to pick non-python files like alembic_migration scripts | 05:43 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, I keep it for the workflow -1 | 05:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: why workflow-1 ? | 05:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: i was looking to include it in the ocata tacker packages | 05:46 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha said about the manifest file. | 05:46 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, the conclusion is to let go? | 05:46 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, gongysh it looks fine from my side as we need MANIFEST file | 05:47 |
| gongysh | ok | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: no we need it | 05:47 |
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| gongysh | done | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: thanks | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | next .. janki's template_source db fix | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: tbh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431339/ | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: tbh: gate test are failing .. | 05:48 |
| gongysh | the log says the quota of RAM is exceeding | 05:49 |
| sridhar_ram | note, janki is not available as she is travelling .. | 05:49 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I just rechecked it, I don't think that's problem with the patch | 05:49 |
| gongysh | I will put one patch to unlimit the ram quota. | 05:49 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: okay.. | 05:50 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup as gongysh said all the logs contains host not found error | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | btw, openstack-ci is quite stressed due to too many CI runs due to ocata release | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | could be a transcient issue | 05:50 |
| gongysh | Quota exceeded for ram: Requested 4096, but already used 50688 of 51200 ram | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | from which log? | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | nova ? | 05:52 |
| gongysh | http://logs.openstack.org/39/431339/7/check/gate-tacker-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial-nv/7aae290/logs/screen-tacker.txt.gz | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | okay .. we can continue to resolve this outside this meeting | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | that it from my list .. rest seems minor that we can punt to Pike | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | *thats it | 05:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | anyone else have any blocking / must-merge Ocata PS ? | 05:53 |
| gongysh | vnffg parameter attributes | 05:54 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434048/ | 05:54 |
| gongysh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1664803 | 05:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664803 in tacker "Fail to create a new vnffg instance" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Jimmy.Ye (jimmy.ye) | 05:54 |
| * sridhar_ram looking up | 05:55 | |
| gongysh | without it, tacker cannot support parameterized VNFFG. | 05:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: yes, this is a must in then | 05:55 |
| gongysh | this patch should have functional tests | 05:56 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: VNFFG doesn't have much functest coverage, we need to improve this in Pike | 05:57 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, definetely | 05:57 |
| sridhar_ram | FYI, I'm planning to request tacker ocata release and stable/ocata branch by Wed EOD Pacific .. | 05:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | .. approx same time tomorrow | 05:58 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on Ocata? | 05:59 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, on nsd bp, "User Guide" is mentioned as TODO in work items. IMO we already have this | 05:59 |
| dkushwaha | https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/doc/source/devref/nsd_usage_guide.rst | 05:59 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: will make it done, thanks for pointing it out | 06:00 |
| sridhar_ram | BTW this is the releasenotes that will go out for Ocata https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/tacker/unreleased.html | 06:00 |
| sridhar_ram | let me know if anything is missing from ur side | 06:01 |
| sridhar_ram | Hopefully we will wrap up Ocata by tomorrow! | 06:01 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, not easy to tell which number is for ocata | 06:01 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: 0.6.0 is Ocata | 06:02 |
| gongysh | Do we have a doc for it? | 06:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | Doc for ocata ? | 06:03 |
| gongysh | doc for the mapping between number and code name | 06:03 |
| sridhar_ram | AFAIK, no.. | 06:03 |
| sridhar_ram | you can look here at the release repo... | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/ocata/tacker.yaml | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | replace ocata with previous names to get the ver # | 06:04 |
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| gongysh | ok, I will try to compile one on wiki. | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | sounds good.. | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | Tacker wiki needs some spring cleaning | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | Lots of work went in to Ocata.. | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | .. hope this is a good release.. | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | any bugs now need to get fixed in master and cherrypicked to stable/ocata | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | moving to next topic .. | 06:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Pike Project Technical Gathering (PTG) | 06:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | Here is the etherpad .. | 06:07 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-pike-grooming | 06:07 |
| sridhar_ram | as usual trozet is sponsoring the conference call (bluejeans) .. will add the dial-in access number once i receive it | 06:08 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, we need to divide the time into sessions, maybe 30 mins for each. | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: yep... | 06:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: did you had a chance to put some topics in focus / priority ? | 06:09 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, 10:00:00 UTC will be too late into night for someone too. | 06:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: including me, it is going to be 2AM ! | 06:10 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, yes | 06:10 |
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| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, is it possible get audio recording after PTG? it will be very helpful | 06:10 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: yes, trozet has enabled recording option.. we just need to remind to start the recording :) | 06:11 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I needed to prepare report for my office :( | 06:11 |
| gongysh | can we start earlier, and make the meeting 4 hours. | 06:11 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: sure | 06:11 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, thanks | 06:11 |
| gongysh | start 3:00 UTC to 7:00 UTC? | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: I can't before 4:30 UTC | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we can split the event into two days | 06:13 |
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| gongysh | sridhar_ram, sure. | 06:14 |
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| gongysh | lets finish at 8:00UTC | 06:14 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: sure . | 06:14 |
| gongysh | and if we have too much topics for next day, we can have one more day. | 06:15 |
| sridhar_ram | so, 5:00 UTC -> 8:00 UTC * (Wed & Thur) | 06:15 |
| gongysh | yes | 06:15 |
| sridhar_ram | does this sound okay for rest of the folks here ? | 06:16 |
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| diga_ | I think its better to keep one day meeting if we keep 5-6 MEETING a day fine for me | 06:16 |
| diga_ | Because its day time for us, I dont think I can get two for meeting officially | 06:17 |
| diga_ | s/5-6/5-6 hours | 06:17 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: doodle poll? | 06:17 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: it is too late for a doodle poll :( | 06:17 |
| sridhar_ram | we need to quickly come to a consensus here ... | 06:17 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ack | 06:18 |
| sridhar_ram | i understand the earlier preferene is to do a one day | 06:18 |
| diga_ | sridhar_ram: sridhar_ram gongysh : we can run 22th feb meeting, if some items will remaing, then we can decide | 06:18 |
| sridhar_ram | how about 4:00 UTC -> 8:00 UTC and finish in one day | 06:19 |
| gongysh | I am ok | 06:19 |
| diga_ | Fine! | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | okay.. any major issues for this slot ? | 06:20 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha ? | 06:20 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: sripriya: tung_doan_ | 06:20 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, sridhar_ram I am ok with all options | 06:20 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup I am fine with that | 06:20 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: works for me | 06:20 |
| tung_doan_ | sridhar_ram: fine for me. thanks | 06:21 |
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| gongysh | ok, I will going to put the topic into slot, each slot will be 30min. | 06:21 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: sounds good.. | 06:21 |
| gongysh | and I will ping you guys who has regiester topics and pike candidate on pike grooming etherpad. | 06:22 |
| gongysh | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-pike-grooming | 06:22 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: works! | 06:23 |
| diga_ | gongysh: Sure! | 06:23 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: it will be good if we can come up with 1 or more focus areas for Pike ... | 06:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we can see how the discussions goes and decide | 06:24 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, make sense | 06:24 |
| sridhar_ram | alright, anything else on PTG meetup ? | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 06:25 |
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| sridhar_ram | if nothing else, will talk to you all next week... | 06:26 |
| gongysh | about blocking device booting | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | please help w/ any last minute ocata requests if it comes your way! | 06:26 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422066/ | 06:26 |
| gongysh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1649459 | 06:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649459 in tacker "Add volume support" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to yong sheng gong (gongysh) | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | i remember a related BP to support storage volumns | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/persistent-block-storage | 06:27 |
| gongysh | yes, I have do the relationship. | 06:28 |
| gongysh | one of my customers are using this feature. | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: I see.. nice! | 06:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | overall happy with where we are heading w/ Tacker ... | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | good times ahead! | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | Mike drop .. over to you gongysh, good luck ! | 06:29 |
| gongysh | guys , heard that ECOMP will merge with OPENO | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | Wow, really ?!! | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | that is a big news | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | but it is good for the industry if it happens | 06:30 |
| gongysh | It is heard. | 06:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | times up folks! | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 06:30:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-02-15-05.30.html | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-02-15-05.30.txt | 06:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-02-15-05.30.log.html | 06:30 |
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| StefanPaetowJisc | Morning? | 09:01 |
| priteau | Hello | 09:01 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | Ahhh, someone’s awake! Good morning priteau | 09:02 |
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| StefanPaetowJisc | Is there a scientific-wg meeting this morning? | 09:02 |
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| b1airo | evening | 09:02 |
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| Ellac | hi guys | 09:02 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | Ahh, b1airo has joined, so that answers the question :-) | 09:02 |
| b1airo | #startmeeting scientific-wg | 09:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 09:02:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b1airo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
| dariov | hello folks! | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-wg)" | 09:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 09:03 |
| Ellac | so the meeting is 900 evening? | 09:03 |
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| b1airo | Ellac, in Melbourne, yes! ;-) | 09:03 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | Ciao Dariov! Evening B1airo. I hope weather in Melbourne is nice! :-) | 09:03 |
| Ellac | got it now. thanks blairo :) | 09:03 |
| b1airo | hi StefanPaetowJisc | 09:04 |
| noggin143 | Hi from Switzerland | 09:04 |
| b1airo | hi dariov | 09:04 |
| b1airo | hi there noggin143 | 09:04 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | I may become less communicative in around 30 mins… I have to join an AARC meeting :-/ | 09:04 |
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| b1airo | yes i may have to disappear in about 30 too, so either martial continues or we may have to cut short | 09:04 |
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| b1airo | but martial doesn't seem to be here yet, or perhaps can't - i forget whether his TZ suits | 09:05 |
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| priteau | b1airo: I think it's 4 AM for martial | 09:05 |
| b1airo | oneswig is on holiday this week | 09:05 |
| verdurin | Morning. | 09:05 |
| b1airo | ah thanks priteau - i guess not then! | 09:05 |
| zioproto | morning | 09:05 |
| priteau | He usually joins the other slot | 09:05 |
| b1airo | hi priteau, hi verdurin | 09:06 |
| priteau | Hi b1airo! | 09:06 |
| b1airo | hello zioproto | 09:06 |
| b1airo | ok, let me dig out the agenda... | 09:06 |
| b1airo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_February_15th_2017 | 09:06 |
| zioproto | noggin143, hi from Zurich :) | 09:07 |
| b1airo | #topic Boston Declaration update | 09:07 |
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| b1airo | i was hoping martial was going to give us an update on this, but as he isn't here, can anyone else? | 09:07 |
| noggin143 | I was in the call this week. | 09:07 |
| b1airo | i have not managed to catch up on it yet so don't want to speculate | 09:07 |
| b1airo | thanks noggin143, how is it looking for Boston do you think? | 09:08 |
| noggin143 | The documents are at https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B4Y7flFgUgf9dElkaFkwbUhKblU | 09:08 |
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| noggin143 | Thursday 11th/Friday 12th confirmed for the dates | 09:08 |
| noggin143 | looking at a number of working groups | 09:09 |
| noggin143 | in areas like policy, trust, federation | 09:09 |
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| b1airo | are there any key things for potential signatories to figure out before the meeting | 09:10 |
| noggin143 | I think that will be covered in the next call. | 09:10 |
| noggin143 | there are some questions in the documents to think about | 09:11 |
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| b1airo | i'm not sure whether there are any key use-cases/stories/scenarios that have been agreed yet? | 09:11 |
| noggin143 | the calls are every couple of weeks for US/Europe and alternatively a more Asia friendly time in between | 09:11 |
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| noggin143 | not yet got to the user stories, more organisational at this point | 09:12 |
| b1airo | zioproto, i know you have an interest in this, are you feeling positive about how it is progressing for the moment? | 09:12 |
| noggin143 | one item was to take a multi-cloud approach though (i.e. not just OpenStack) | 09:12 |
| b1airo | noggin143, yes that particular discussion did pass via my inbox | 09:13 |
| zioproto | mmm progress is a bit slow | 09:13 |
| zioproto | I actually got a complain because https://review.openstack.org/400738 is not very much active | 09:13 |
| zioproto | I was hoping other people would push more patchsets to the user story | 09:14 |
| zioproto | also I will not be able to be in Boston for VISA issues | 09:14 |
| b1airo | all for that, though not entirely sure what the people asking that really mean. are they talking about alternative private cloud middleware or (potentially non-openstack) public/commercial clouds? | 09:14 |
| b1airo | zioproto, have you directed anyone getting involved in the boston declaration activities to that story? | 09:15 |
| noggin143 | my understanding is that the proposal is both (i.e. other private clouds and public clouds). We'll have to see how it evolves. | 09:15 |
| dariov | b1airo, first time I hear of this boston declaration update, but at least for us multicloud means also public/commercial cloud | 09:16 |
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| dariov | I’ll pass the link up to my boss(es), I’ve got the feeling is something we might be interested in engaging with | 09:16 |
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| b1airo | dariov, yes multicloud certainly means that, i'm just struggling to figure out how it fits in cloud federation, which is what the boston declaration is about | 09:17 |
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| dariov | I’ve just scanned through the “next steps” document, and many bells rang on each working group | 09:17 |
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| noggin143 | I'd suggest people have a read of the documents and if interested, join in the next call | 09:18 |
| dariov | noggin143, any suggestion where to start from? The slides maybe? | 09:18 |
| b1airo | i think multicloud is more-or-less solved by using higher level provisioning/orchestration/broker services (e.g. the likes of cloudforms) ? | 09:18 |
| noggin143 | the slides are a good intro to understand the initiative | 09:19 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | zioproto, am going to read over the patch and comment too | 09:19 |
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| noggin143 | We're certainly happily doing multi-cloud with terraform | 09:19 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | zioproto: Are you in Milano? If so, we can touch base there. | 09:19 |
| noggin143 | there is a lot of work to do on the policy/trust side of identity federation and resource ownership | 09:19 |
| dariov | noggin143, same here, terraform is our main “multi-cloud” layer at the moment | 09:20 |
| noggin143 | ideally, we'd also see some OpenStack blueprints come out of it as well as the documents/agreements. | 09:20 |
| b1airo | noggin143, yes that is the work i was envisaging (hence the confusion around non-open clouds) | 09:21 |
| zioproto | StefanPaetowJisc, yes I will be in Milano | 09:21 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | zioproto: Excellent | 09:21 |
| noggin143 | we may end up with a reference implementation on OpenStack for example | 09:21 |
| zioproto | b1airo, no I did not direct anyone to that story, I mean not a specific single person | 09:21 |
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| b1airo | zioproto, maybe worth adding a section on related efforts into the document, where you could promote engagement on that patchset for example | 09:23 |
| b1airo | anything else to say on boston or shall we toddle on? | 09:23 |
| zioproto | ok, thanks for the feedback | 09:24 |
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| b1airo | #topic Hypervisor tuning update from Blair | 09:25 |
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| b1airo | i already talked about this last week and we seem to have a bit of attendance overlap so i'll try to keep this brief | 09:25 |
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| b1airo | will, priteau and zioproto were here last week, maybe that's all | 09:26 |
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| b1airo | presumably most of you will have heard me talk about one of our HPC deployments by now | 09:27 |
| b1airo | an OpenStack+KVM based cluster | 09:27 |
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| b1airo | we were digging into some performance issues recently and created some nice graphs looking at SMP Linpack and MPI HPL on both the bare-metal and guests | 09:28 |
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| b1airo | SMP linpack - #link http://pasteboard.co/vBwRsur2Q.png | 09:29 |
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| b1airo | MPI HPL - #link http://pasteboard.co/vByv44w1d.png | 09:29 |
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| b1airo | we had some users complaining about slow jobs compared to another much older cluster we have | 09:30 |
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| b1airo | so we ran those tests to check cpu performance, and as expected that is quite good, except for a few guests where performance is dropping off at 120k Ns matrix size | 09:31 |
| b1airo | next suspicion was memory as we have been running with regular page size up till now due to some unresolved issues encountered when we first tried to use hugepages | 09:32 |
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| simon-AS559 | o/ sorry for joining late, had some urgent bureaucracy to do | 09:33 |
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| b1airo | hello simon-AS559 ! | 09:33 |
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| b1airo | stumbled across the Intel Memory Latency Checker tool, which was useful but didn't seem to be exhaustive enough | 09:33 |
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| b1airo | one of my colleagues wrote a small C program to randomly index and update a large array per CPU and spit out an updates per second number | 09:34 |
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| b1airo | on the hypervisors that clocked ~6.5 million updates per second | 09:35 |
| b1airo | interestingly when we turned off linux kernel numa_balancing that went up to 9 mups | 09:36 |
| b1airo | so with default settings, numa_balancing seems to be quite expensive for memory heavy workloads | 09:36 |
| verdurin | b1airo: which kernel? | 09:37 |
| noggin143 | interesting. Were the vCPUs pinned to a particular numa node? | 09:37 |
| b1airo | we also saw very variable numbers in the guests - 2-6 mups | 09:37 |
| b1airo | verdurin, 4.4 kernel on the hypervisors | 09:37 |
| b1airo | noggin143, yes cpu and numa pinned | 09:37 |
| noggin143 | we had very good results with huge pages (2M in our case) to avoid thrashing the EPT | 09:38 |
| b1airo | unforunately i don't yet have a number for guest without numa_balancing as this work is ongoing | 09:38 |
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| b1airo | noggin143, yes agreed | 09:38 |
| b1airo | i was already thinking this was the problem as we were working through test cases and so returned to the earlier issue in using hugepages to begin with | 09:39 |
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| b1airo | in the end i found a libvirt bug | 09:39 |
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| b1airo | turns out it works on some of our hypervisors, those with 128GB RAM, but on the larger nodes guests won't start | 09:39 |
| b1airo | we are hitting a timeout waiting for the qemu socket to show up | 09:40 |
| b1airo | it takes longer than 30s for the qemu process to have its memory allocated when on hugetlbfs | 09:40 |
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| StefanPaetowJisc | :-O | 09:40 |
| priteau | nice edge case! | 09:40 |
| verdurin | Unfortunate. | 09:41 |
| b1airo | a small sample size test with numa_balancing off and hugepage backed guest reduced the user code runtime down to 1/3 of what it was before | 09:41 |
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| b1airo | the really odd thing is though that the same code was slow on the hypervisor, slower than a system about 4 years older - still haven't figured that one out yet but seems to be something to do with the amount of memory in the system | 09:43 |
| noggin143 | BTW, did you have numad running on the hypervisor? We found it better to turn that off | 09:43 |
| b1airo | noggin143, no numad on ubuntu for the moment - i asked james page about that in austin and he made an icky face | 09:44 |
| b1airo | on the face of it it seems like a nice tool for a performance focused environment where you still want some over-subscription/consolidation | 09:45 |
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| b1airo | anyway, that's that for now, hopefully by boston i can share a war-story that has explanations for the things that remain ... weird at the moment | 09:46 |
| b1airo | i might skip over the RoCE on ECMP stuff unless anyone wants to talk about it particularly? | 09:47 |
| verdurin | b1airo: was that covered last week? If so, I can just read the archive. | 09:48 |
| b1airo | ah, Dan Berrange and Michal Privoznik have just responded to me on libvirt-users :-) | 09:49 |
| b1airo | verdurin, yes i talked about it there - basically we have just moved to Cumulus Linux for our switch OS and from L2 to L3 based Ethernet fabric | 09:49 |
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| b1airo | found an issue or two along the way - check the log if you are interested in that | 09:50 |
| b1airo | i am liking Cumulus though | 09:50 |
| verdurin | b1airo: yes, reading now. | 09:50 |
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| verdurin | b1airo: we can cover the GPU-related work in a future meeting? | 09:50 |
| b1airo | verdurin, yes definitely, but happy to talk about that now if you like | 09:51 |
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| b1airo | the other parts of the agenda are also repeat | 09:51 |
| verdurin | I'd like to hear about your GPU work, but what do others think? | 09:52 |
| b1airo | the only other thing is SC17 - oneswig graciously put some workshop proposals in for that | 09:52 |
| b1airo | but the calls for BoFs etc are still a little while away | 09:53 |
| b1airo | i would definitely like to run another if they'll have us | 09:53 |
| b1airo | also quite keen on a high-performance KVM BoF and wondering what others think | 09:54 |
| b1airo | #topic AOB | 09:54 |
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| b1airo | verdurin, regarding GPUs - i started an etherpad a month or so ago with initial draft of what i am hoping to push upstream as a guide for creating GPU-enabled openstack clouds | 09:55 |
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| b1airo | it's still very rough, but we also need to figure out where it should belong in the context of other docs/guides | 09:55 |
| b1airo | either in the arch or operators guides i think, possibly spread/duplicated across them in some way | 09:56 |
| b1airo | need a few more hours on the draft and then to approach the docs team | 09:57 |
| verdurin | b1airo: worth adding a link to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ScientificWGGPUs for now? | 09:57 |
| b1airo | ha! i didn't even realise david had created that | 09:57 |
| b1airo | yes i will link the etherpad there, thanks | 09:57 |
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| b1airo | i'm also interested in collecting known hardware and OS+hypervisor combinations | 09:58 |
| b1airo | (and know broken boxes, cards, firmwares) | 09:58 |
| b1airo | *known | 09:58 |
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| b1airo | so please ping me if you have any experiences, working or not, to share on that | 09:59 |
| verdurin | will do | 09:59 |
| b1airo | looks like we are out of time | 10:00 |
| b1airo | i was supposed to leave already! | 10:00 |
| verdurin | Bye everyone. | 10:00 |
| b1airo | bye all | 10:00 |
| b1airo | thanks noggin143 for the BCD discussions | 10:00 |
| simon-AS559 | bye! | 10:00 |
| priteau | bye! | 10:00 |
| b1airo | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 10:01:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-02-15-09.02.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-02-15-09.02.txt | 10:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-02-15-09.02.log.html | 10:01 |
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| ad_rien_ | #startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ad_rien_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: massively_distributed_clouds)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'massively_distributed_clouds' | 15:00 |
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| ad_rien_ | #chair ad_rien_ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ad_rien_ | 15:00 |
| ad_rien_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2017 agenda line 185 | 15:00 |
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| jamemcc | Hi Adrien | 15:01 |
| ad_rien_ | Hi all | 15:01 |
| rcherrueau | o/ | 15:01 |
| ad_rien_ | ping ad_rien_, msimonin, denaitre, dsantoro, menthos, serverascode, jfpeltier, kgiusti, ansmith | 15:01 |
| Menthos | o/ | 15:01 |
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| kgiusti | o/ | 15:02 |
| ad_rien_ | ok let's wait one more minute | 15:02 |
| denaitre | o/ | 15:02 |
| mabderrahim | o/ | 15:02 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:02 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:03 |
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| ad_rien_ | so let's start (I was waiting additional folks from Orange but they will join us during the meeting hopefully) | 15:04 |
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| ad_rien_ | #topic Announcement | 15:04 |
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| ad_rien_ | So from our side, only one news regarding the patch for Kolla that has been accepted | 15:05 |
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| ad_rien_ | So we should be able to deploy multi regions by leveraging kolla soon. | 15:05 |
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| ad_rien_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431588/ kolla multi region support | 15:05 |
| ad_rien_ | There is one more patch to be accepted (please rcherrueau could you put the link) | 15:06 |
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| rcherrueau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431658/ | 15:07 |
| ad_rien_ | Thanks | 15:07 |
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| ad_rien_ | finally we are working on the experiment plan for the first series of WAN evaluations (but we will discuss that point later). | 15:07 |
| ad_rien_ | So that's all from Inria side. | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | Anything else from your side guys ? | 15:08 |
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| jfpeltier | From Orange Rabbit Noise generator, | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | do you want to discuss it now? | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | (@all please remind/feel free to contribute to the pad) | 15:08 |
| jfpeltier | I have a tool allowing to send 400+ msg/s but no results with OpenStack | 15:08 |
| jfpeltier | I don't have a presentation ready | 15:09 |
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| jfpeltier | I had to multi-thread it for performance and got some issues | 15:09 |
| kgiusti | jfpeltier: is the tool available - open source? | 15:09 |
| jfpeltier | It will soon be, yes | 15:10 |
| ad_rien_ | links? | 15:10 |
| kgiusti | jfpeltier: sweet! | 15:10 |
| jfpeltier | I did not put it on my github yet | 15:10 |
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| jfpeltier | It is based on the tool made by Ayeb, I'll send his link | 15:10 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | If I'm right we pushed the link last week. | 15:11 |
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| jfpeltier | yes https://github.com/abousselmi/osnoise | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | ok not that one ;) | 15:11 |
| jfpeltier | sorry Ayoub | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | #link https://github.com/abousselmi/osnoise Orange contribution to stress the AMQP bus | 15:12 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:12 |
| ad_rien_ | do you want to add something else? | 15:12 |
| jfpeltier | nothing else from me | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | anyone before switching to the next topic? | 15:13 |
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| ad_rien_ | seems not | 15:14 |
| ad_rien_ | #topic Deployment scenarios / WAN evaluations | 15:14 |
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| ad_rien_ | As discussed our tool is now ready to emulate different network topologies | 15:15 |
| ad_rien_ | #link https://enos.readthedocs.io/en/latest/network-emulation/index.html Traffic shaping with ENOS | 15:15 |
| ad_rien_ | so we are currently working on the experiment methodology | 15:15 |
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| ad_rien_ | I put some notes in the pad (with the support of rcherrueau and Menthos) | 15:16 |
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| ad_rien_ | so we would like to perform two kinds of experiments the first one will be based on scenario 1 (i.e. control services deployed on one site and computes notes deployed on remote locations) | 15:17 |
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| ad_rien_ | we are wondering whether you have some feedbacks/remarks regarding such an evalution? | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | What should be the latency/bandwith metrics we should emulate? | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | How many computes nodes per site? | 15:17 |
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| ad_rien_ | is there a particular rally scenario to execute? | 15:18 |
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| ad_rien_ | Any remark would be more than welcome ;) | 15:18 |
| ad_rien_ | jamemcc: jfpeltier ? | 15:18 |
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| jfpeltier | well any measurement is interesting... | 15:18 |
| Menthos | Why not just perform all of them and look at what fails? :-) | 15:19 |
| jfpeltier | latency from 10ms to 200ms | 15:19 |
| Menthos | (That's what I'm doing with other scenarios, it allows to turn on some red lights) | 15:19 |
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| jfpeltier | I don't think bandwidth is so much an issue | 15:20 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | because we are not a cloud provider/network operator, we are just wondering what can be the representative topologies? | 15:21 |
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| ad_rien_ | so any remarks/feedbacks from cloud providers/telcos would be highly appreciated. | 15:21 |
| ad_rien_ | I will try to discuss this point next week with telcos. | 15:21 |
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| ad_rien_ | Ok the second experiment will focus on the multi regions use-case | 15:22 |
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| ad_rien_ | although this will be addressed after the first series of experiments, we would like to start the braimstorming sessions and get ideas/feedbacks as well? | 15:23 |
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| ad_rien_ | jamemcc: I know that ATT solution is based on this idea of having independent Openstack on each site and a glue that provides a unified view. | 15:24 |
| matrohon | ad_rien_, do you still use the nova fake driver? | 15:24 |
| rcherrueau | yes we still use it | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | While preparing this meeting, we discussed whether this is the right way to go or not. | 15:24 |
| rcherrueau | Do you think it's a big issue for the tests we envision? | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | ok let's make a pause on the multi region discussion. | 15:25 |
| matrohon | the fake driver is not using nova-compute to neutron communications | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | matrohon: what do you have in mind? | 15:25 |
| matrohon | AFAIR | 15:25 |
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| matrohon | I'm afraid we're missing some RPC call made by real drivers | 15:26 |
| matrohon | not sure about that, need to check | 15:26 |
| Menthos | matrohon: I think you're right | 15:26 |
| ad_rien_ | ok so this is an interesting point. | 15:26 |
| Menthos | Have you looked at our presentation at the last summit? | 15:26 |
| rcherrueau | matrohon: Good remark | 15:26 |
| Menthos | Mirantis used a modified libvirt driver instead | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | Maybe we can use remove the fake drivers from this picture? | 15:27 |
| matrohon | Menthos, which eumulates real calls? | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | I mean since we are not targetting the scalability in this experiment, we can use real nodes? | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | I mean the number of remote sites is probably the main issue? | 15:27 |
| Menthos | matrohon: from what I understood, they took the libvirt driver and just removed the calls to the hypervisor | 15:28 |
| Menthos | So I think it was vanilla Neutron | 15:28 |
| matrohon | ok, so neutron did the plumbing job | 15:28 |
| rcherrueau | matrohon: Mirantis solution uses a modified libvirt that doesn't start vms | 15:28 |
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| matrohon | rcherrueau, sounds more realistic | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | cinder should be impacted too if VMs have volume attached | 15:29 |
| ad_rien_ | yes | 15:30 |
| ad_rien_ | so we need to evaluate a scenario that include cinder volumes | 15:30 |
| Menthos | Foud it: https://youtu.be/XURkQ3biF6w?t=10m6s | 15:30 |
| matrohon | Menthos, thanks | 15:30 |
| ad_rien_ | #link https://youtu.be/XURkQ3biF6w?t=10m6s Mirantis explain the fake driver issue | 15:30 |
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| ad_rien_ | getting back to cinder, we can have a cinder per site | 15:31 |
| ad_rien_ | but this is true that right now we never dive into cinder considerations | 15:32 |
| Menthos | rcherrueau: notifies me that my link broke his Emacs, so he can't speak anymore | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | So that leads us to my initial question: what can be the right scenarios to evaluate? | 15:32 |
| Menthos | rcherrueau says Inria haven't had a look at Cinder yet (only Nova, Keystone and Neutron) | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | There are a lot of components/services, I don't know whether we can evaluate all of them. | 15:32 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:33 |
| matrohon | agreed | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | anything else. | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | Can we move to the region use-case? | 15:33 |
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| matrohon | I think we should stick to simple scenario first : VMs attached to providers net with no volumes | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | yes that was indeed the initial idea | 15:34 |
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| ad_rien_ | then complexifies the picture by adding cinder volumes | 15:34 |
| Menthos | +1 | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | by checking live migrations from one remote compute to another one (intra and inter sites) | 15:34 |
| Menthos | Yes the rally scenarios for live migrations are a good way to start testing cinder | 15:35 |
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| ad_rien_ | So getting back to the multi region scenario | 15:35 |
| ad_rien_ | we are not convinced that this is the right direction | 15:36 |
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| ad_rien_ | We are wondering actually why the region abstraction has been proposed? | 15:36 |
| ad_rien_ | This is another way to segregate an infrastructure | 15:36 |
| ad_rien_ | but there is the cell abstraction | 15:36 |
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| matrohon | every big cloud provider (amazon ahead) is providing multi-region | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | matrohon: you mean availability zone, don't you? | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | i.e. with the multi region there is a strong segregation. For instance you should run a unique/common keystone | 15:38 |
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| ad_rien_ | if you want your users to be able to run VM on every site | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | every region (sorry) | 15:39 |
| matrohon | i don't know the name at amazon... but I think one need to choose a regino to get endpoint it will work with am i wrong | 15:39 |
| jfpeltier | to link both aspects, you need additional filters in nova-cheduler | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | so this mean that either you have a global keystone or you have several keystone and a mean to federate them. | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | jfpeltier: that's exactly my point, I have the feeling that on the first hand you are segregating your infrastructure into several regions (i.e. independent openstack) but then you need additional pieces of software to federate them | 15:40 |
| jfpeltier | adrien in your use-case, do you have unique database? | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | ….. this looks weird, doesn't it? | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | not yet | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | for the moment, we only work with the vanilla code | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | we would like to identify all issues that prevent the use of one technology/solution | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | jfpeltier: not yet was the answer of your question (sorry for not beeing clear) | 15:42 |
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| jfpeltier | We tried both configurations, unique database allows more fetures but also has some drawbacks | 15:42 |
| matrohon | if you look at ongoing deployments with multi-region, they all have a piece of software to aggregate those regions | 15:43 |
| jfpeltier | I guess the normal one is to segragate | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | matrohon: such as? | 15:43 |
| matrohon | ATT is using ecomp for instance | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | yes that was the question to jamemcc? | 15:43 |
| matrohon | an ochetsrator on top of regions | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | but this mean you have to developp/maintain such a component | 15:44 |
| matrohon | indeed | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | in somehow, you use openstack as libvirt | 15:44 |
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| ad_rien_ | so it means that you have to redevelop most of services (for instance a scheduler, ...) | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | this looks like the initial TriCircle proposal | 15:45 |
| matrohon | yep | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | The question that would be great to answer is what are the right arguments to justify such an approach | 15:45 |
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| ad_rien_ | I guess that they think about it before implementing such an orchestrator | 15:45 |
| matrohon | independant failure domain | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | in the sense ? | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | is there a ecomp presentation somewhere available? | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | jamemcc, still there? do you have such a pointer? | 15:46 |
| matrohon | workloads in one failing openstack can move to another openstack | 15:46 |
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| jamemcc | Yeah | 15:46 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok maybe we can put this question on the pad and discuss it next time | 15:47 |
| jamemcc | I'll look and see if I can find a link before end of meeting. If not will send e-mail. | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | jamemcc? What do you prefer? | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | from my point of view, the advantages is that ecomp can operate whatever cloud systems | 15:47 |
| matrohon | ecomp should be opensource source, jamemcc, is it already? | 15:47 |
| matrohon | s/source/soon | 15:48 |
| jamemcc | Next meeting would be great - I can probably arrange to have appropriate architect | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | (i.e. not just OpenStack but all clouds that are openstack compliants) | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | great | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | I think this is an important point to clarify because | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | it will help us to justify either a top/down or a bottom/up approach | 15:48 |
| jamemcc | I'll have to loko for specific status - which license Mathieu. I'll include that as well. | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | great | 15:49 |
| ad_rien_ | (ten minutes before the end of the meeting, I propose to switch to the next point) | 15:49 |
| jamemcc | Certainly is the intent and we've announced the intent. | 15:49 |
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| ad_rien_ | #topic F2F meeting in Boston | 15:50 |
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| ad_rien_ | I will open an etherpad so we can keep up-to-date informations related to Boston. Who will be there? What are the points we would like to discuss? etc.. | 15:51 |
| ad_rien_ | Since I didn't do this pad yet, I propose to discuss it next week. | 15:51 |
| ad_rien_ | Ok ? | 15:51 |
| ad_rien_ | #action ad_rien_ Create a pad for Boston F2F meeting | 15:52 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok so let's move to the open discussion moment | 15:53 |
| ad_rien_ | #topic open discussions | 15:53 |
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| ad_rien_ | so please guys the floor is yours | 15:53 |
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| denaitre | we have looked on the different solutions used to deploy openstack | 15:54 |
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| denaitre | more particularly kolla, enos, juju, kuberneted and tripleo | 15:54 |
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| kgiusti | I'd like to discuss https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ghwinrArfoCw1qIsNGxWSrd8NTynYomThERGUpN4f0U/edit?usp=sharing *before* boston if possible | 15:56 |
| denaitre | https://goo.gl/7IksQY | 15:56 |
| kgiusti | next meeting? Just a real quick run through. | 15:57 |
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| ad_rien_ | #link https://goo.gl/7IksQY how deploying OpenSTack in a massively distributed context | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | kgiusti: yes I will add it to the agenda | 15:57 |
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| kgiusti | thanks | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | as one item | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | [ ] ad_rien_ put the AMQP discussion as a main point for the next meeting. | 15:58 |
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| ad_rien_ | #action ad_rien_ put the AMQP discussion as a main point for the next meeting. | 15:58 |
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| ad_rien_ | Ok I propose to close the meeting | 15:58 |
| jfpeltier | ok | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | ok so talk to you in two weeks | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks for attending the meeting | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 15:58:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-02-15-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-02-15-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-02-15-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 16:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey everyone | 16:00 |
| breitz | o/ | 16:00 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu_ | hi | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
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| wxy| | hi | 16:01 |
| mdovgal | hi | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | I'd say it looks like a short one today, but that usually ends up being the ones where we run out of time. ;) | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | #topic PTG Planning | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-cinder-ptg-planning PTG topic planning | 16:02 |
| scottda | hi | 16:02 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: no ping? | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Hotel rooms are still available in the conference block if you have not booked yet. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Doh! I'm off today. :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop | 16:02 |
| Swanson | hallo | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | There. :) | 16:02 |
| erlon | hey | 16:02 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: thanks | 16:02 |
| guyr-infinidat | Hi | 16:03 |
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| eharney | hi | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Please add any additional topics you would like to discuss (or have others discuss?) at the PTG. | 16:03 |
| * geguileo has an async dispatcher and needs pings/reminders for everything | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | ;) | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | We just have a couple set times for meeting with Nova and potentially for talking policy cross project. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Otherwise we'll just work our way through the topics as we go. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | That seems to have worked well in past midcycles. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | And keeps it flexible enough that if something comes up that needs our attention we can adapt. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | I will try to timebox some discussions to hopefully avoid a little of the bikeshedding. | 16:05 |
| geguileo | If anybody has conflicting agenda should mention it in the etherpad | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: +1 | 16:05 |
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| * jungleboyj could use a new bikeshed though. ;-) | 16:06 | |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else as far as the PTG goes? Questions, comments, observations? | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Hoping that it just goes like our normal mid-cycles do. | 16:07 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Going to do team photos. I'll be sending an email out later today about it. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | That is cool. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, looking forward to seeing everyone and hanging out. | 16:07 |
| scottda | diablo_rojo_phon: What about bingo? | 16:07 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I have the cards from last time and a few updates, but could use some ideas. | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | If you have some on them to me. | 16:08 |
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| scottda | diablo_rojo_phon: etherpad? :) | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | *pm | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Lol could do that | 16:08 |
| scottda | hah..PM is maybe better | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Ocata release | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | scottda: You don;'t want evidence. | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | Just a reminder that final RC is tomorrow. Or tonight if things look good. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | SO if there is anything important to get in, backport to stable/ocata ASAP and let me know. | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | Probably critical only at this point. | 16:09 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I believe there are a couple of patches that need to go in there | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: OK, can you send me links? I'll take a look. | 16:10 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: One has 2 +2 and +W is from Erlon, but it's in merge conflict now | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Me too please. | 16:10 |
| geguileo | And I don't remember the other one | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: In the stable/ocata branch? | 16:10 |
| erlon | geguileo: smcginnis : yeah, ill rebase that later on | 16:10 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: No, in master (I think) | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Hmm. OK, better get that rebased quick if we want to have time to still get it back to ocata. | 16:11 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: jungleboyj https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427348/ | 16:12 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, we should probably get that one in. Hopefully the gate cooperates. | 16:12 |
| e0ne | looks like a good candidate for ocata | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that looks like a good one. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Jinx. | 16:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Is the reviews etherpad up-to-date? | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: I started making updates there to switch gears over to Pike. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | It can probably use some more attention. | 16:13 |
| mdovgal | i wrote the file that need for unit-tests changes from this patch | 16:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Okay, just wondered so we have somewhere to look for these final items. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I figured we will have more updates for it at/after the PTG. | 16:13 |
| geguileo | erlon: what about this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422733/ | 16:14 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: I'm sure we will :) | 16:14 |
| geguileo | I think that's also a nasty one we would want fixed | 16:14 |
| erlon | geguileo: that should be quick t do as well | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: +1 | 16:14 |
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| geguileo | erlon: ping me when you've done it, please | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Can you get those rebased soon? | 16:15 |
| erlon | geguileo: there are 4 patches in the chain, sure, Ill to that later today | 16:15 |
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| geguileo | erlon: thanks | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: Later as in in about 5 minutes from now? | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | :P | 16:15 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That was subtle. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | hehe | 16:16 |
| erlon | smcginnis: :p, 5 minutes from the end of the day ?:P | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | I guess Cinder will just be the last one out the door. But bswartz might wait longer again. :P | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:18 |
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| scottda | I wanted to talk about Tempest tests..... | 16:18 |
| scottda | mtreinish: pinged me about Cinder V1 tests | 16:18 |
| bswartz | :-/ | 16:18 |
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| scottda | and that we should look at running them in a separate Cinder job, not necessarily on every patch. | 16:18 |
| jordanP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434354/ | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | scottda: That sounds good to me. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | scottda: We've had the deprecated for a long time now. | 16:19 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Yup. So, anyone looking for something to do, we've some work there. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | And even though we've said we can't get rid of it, I hate to see all those gate resources used to test something we don't care about. | 16:19 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis +1 | 16:19 |
| scottda | I'll put something on the PTG agenda to make sure we follow through. Maybe under the existing test topic. | 16:20 |
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| * diablo_rojo_phon preemptively fills in the bingo space about redefining each type of test. | 16:20 | |
| smcginnis | scottda: That will at least spread awareness then. | 16:20 |
| breitz | scottda, I've got some cycles I could provide for that. | 16:21 |
| mtreinish | scottda: +1, that was what jordanP was getting at in his patch | 16:21 |
| e0ne | it looks an odd to have some supported but deprecated an not-tested API | 16:21 |
| mtreinish | s/scottda/smcginnis | 16:21 |
| mtreinish | sigh, tab complete fail | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | mtreinish: +1 :) | 16:21 |
| e0ne | sooner or later, API v1 will be broken w/o testing | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I do want to reraise the idea of actually removing that at some point. | 16:21 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I'm ready to remove it right now :) | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: And we can still test it. Just not on every patch. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: :) | 16:22 |
| mdovgal | e0ne, :D | 16:22 |
| scottda | Or refactoring to have inheritance, since v1 is just a subset of v2 for the most part | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Good point. And since v2 is also static, having it inherited where we can would help reduce a lot of code and hopefully duplication of test coverage. | 16:23 |
| scottda | and v3 a superset of v2 | 16:23 |
| e0ne | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1627921 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627921 in Cinder "clean up API versions" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:23 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Another opportunity for someone looking for some work to pick up. | 16:24 |
| e0ne | if something could be broken, it will be broken | 16:24 |
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| mtreinish | e0ne: yeah, that's what tends to happen. But we can be a bit smarter are more targetted about when and where we test v1 | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | True words | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | mtreinish: We could definitely test smarter. | 16:26 |
| e0ne | mtreinish: it's a good idea | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else to discuss today? | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Or everyone saving up for the PTG next week. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Any plans for a Cinder get together at the PTG? | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | OH, that's next week? | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | I thought it was the week after... dang it | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: :) | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: scottda eharney got your DND characters ready? ;) | 16:27 |
| sivn_ | have you discussed about the new cinder drivers? | 16:27 |
| eharney | :) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | sivn_: Was there another topic? | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | eharney: I'll take that as a yes ;) | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I think we should try to get together. Tuesday night? | 16:28 |
| dulek | Tuesday is official event I think? | 16:28 |
| sivn_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409914/ | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | There is an official event? | 16:28 |
| sivn_ | not sure about the topic | 16:28 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | There's a happy hour but we can do dinner after | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Socializer is until 7. We could meet at 7:30 somewhere near by. | 16:29 |
| * dulek will be sleeping after 7 PM. ;) | 16:29 | |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | dulek: I'm buying you redbull | 16:29 |
| sivn_ | what is the appropriate time for that please? to discuss about new cinder driver | 16:29 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo_phon: Okay, I'll try. :) | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Oh, good point. Might be too soon for those travelling farther to have a late nigth. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | sivn_: Is there something that needs to be discussed there? I'm missing something. | 16:29 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: What about Wednesday nigth? | 16:30 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I was just kidding, don't mind me. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | night | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Hah, OK. | 16:30 |
| sivn_ | its pending code review | 16:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | sivn_: Since we are close enough to Pike you can post the patch to start getting reviews. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | sivn_: OK. Was there something to discuss? | 16:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | sivn_: got a link? We can add it to the reviews etherpad so it gets some eyes. | 16:30 |
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| sivn_ | I have already posted the path, want to get it reviewed | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Link is above. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | So should we target Tuesday night for a gathering? | 16:31 |
| xyang1 | diablo_rojo_phon: do we know when is pike-1 yet? | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: They are finalizing the schedule. | 16:31 |
| xyang1 | ok | 16:31 |
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| smcginnis | Should be fairly set at this point. | 16:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | The proposed schedule was sent to the ml yesterday I beliwve | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | xyang1: They just published a proposed schedule. | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | It was. | 16:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Idk if the patch has been merged yet. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425254/ | 16:32 |
| xyang1 | jungleboyj: where? | 16:32 |
| Swanson | Is O.1 short cycle, too? | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | ^^ | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: No, back to normalish. | 16:32 |
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| * jungleboyj cheers! | 16:32 | |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: Looks like P-1 will likely be the week of April 10. | 16:32 |
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| xyang1 | ok, thanks | 16:33 |
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| dulek | April… I'll need to think of a patch for April Fools… | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | OK, we can pull together a gathering next week in the channel when we see how things end up. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | dulek: ;) | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | dulek: +1 cheesecake v3 | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | dulek: Steak V1 | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: I thought scottda requested filet mignon? | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | And I'll take that as a sign we've gone past the point of being productive. Thanks everyone. | 16:35 |
| scottda | That or pizza | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 16:35:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Ah, that was the request. | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-02-15-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-02-15-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-02-15-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | I like pizza too though. | 16:35 |
| sivn_ | which etherpad should I post about the new cinder driver? this is what I was talking about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:35 |
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| jungleboyj | sivn_: I think that is the right one. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | sivn_: Drivers will be reviewed. I believe that's already in there, but if not, feel free to add it. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that looks right. | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | sivn_: yes that's correct | 16:36 |
| sivn_ | thanks, I had already posted there, | 16:36 |
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| sivn_ | ok, will wait and watch | 16:36 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | sivn_: I can try to take a look today assuming nothing else pops up higher on my list. | 16:38 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 18:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
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| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:00 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | Hi Bin | 18:01 |
| pcarver | #info Paul Carver | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Paul | 18:01 |
| georgk | #Georg Kunz | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Georg | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #info Georg Kunz | 18:01 |
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| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info Sukhdev and Ian will discuss with Neutron team in PTG next week | 18:03 |
| jinli | Hi All | 18:03 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #info Sukhdev has proposed 2 topics in Etherpad | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-pike | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #info Line 108-112 | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #info He submitted 2 RFEs | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1664461 | 18:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664461 in neutron "[RFE] Neutron API enhancement - make network and subnets as optional" [Undecided,New] | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1664461 | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1664466 | 18:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664466 in neutron "[RFE] Neutron API enhancement - add optional attribute to network" [Undecided,New] | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #info Hope that we will hear good news from them | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #topic Gluon Ocata Release | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata | 18:08 |
| bh526r | #info I have updated the status there | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | #info The essential work for Ocata has been completed | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | #info Some more work are deferred to Pike | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #info such as those 2 improvements Sukhdev will discuss with Neutron | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #info Installers support | 18:10 |
| bh526r | #info synchronization issue | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | #info and some fine tuning of code, improvement and bug fix of code as needed | 18:11 |
| bh526r | #info I will start another wiki page for Pike release tasks, and everyone can contribute to the tasks listed in new wiki | 18:11 |
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| bh526r | #info There are 3 patches for final clean-up of Ocata | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432797/ | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433197/ | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433196/ | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info The first one 432797 is the documentation, including installation guide, user guide, developer docs, etc. | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info The second one 433197 is a bug fix of shim layer to support new API model | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info The third one is a bug fix of using (Neutron's) config option to bind to etcd server | 18:15 |
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| bh526r | #info All of them have been comprehensively reviewed, commented and updated | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info Many thanks to Paul, Georg and rest of team for their hard work | 18:15 |
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| bh526r | Any further comments on those 3 patches? | 18:16 |
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| bh526r | If no further comments, I suggest that we officially approve them and merge them. | 18:17 |
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| bh526r | #info Team's consensus is to officially approve those 3 patches and merge them | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info Bin will take the action after meeting | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info Bin will also take the action to push a new tag 1.0.0.0rc1 at the end of day today | 18:19 |
| bh526r | #info Then allow 2 more days for any last minutes issue that needs attention | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin will take another action to push a tag 1.0.0.0 by the end of day Friday, and work with release management to cut our own stable/ocata branch | 18:20 |
| bh526r | Any comment or suggestion? | 18:21 |
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| bh526r | #info sorry I forgot to mention that Contrail Mechanism Driver patch 402071 was already merged on Feb 10 | 18:23 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402071/ | 18:23 |
| bh526r | #info And related documentation has been integrated into our master documentation 432797 | 18:23 |
| bh526r | #info Thank you Kamil for your great work | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | If everything goes as planned, considering PTG next week, we may not have new topics for discussion next week | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | Thus I suggest that we may consider to cancel our IRC meeting next week | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | to give everyone a short break, and let Ian and Sukhdev focus on PTG discussion | 18:26 |
| bh526r | Unless we have last minute issue which needs a discussion next week | 18:26 |
| bh526r | Is it ok for everyone? | 18:27 |
| jinli | ok | 18:27 |
| georgk | fine with me | 18:27 |
| krenczewski | ok | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #info Considering PTG next week, team agreed to cancel the IRC meeting next week (Feb 22) so that we give everyone a short break after Ocata release work, and let Ian and Sukhdev focus on discussion in PTG | 18:28 |
| bh526r | thank you | 18:28 |
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| bh526r | #info Unless there is a last minute issue that needs team discussion | 18:29 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin will send out an email after he pushes 1.0.0.0 tag on Friday for canceling the meeting next week (Feb 22) | 18:30 |
| bh526r | anything else to discuss? | 18:30 |
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| bh526r | if nothing else, we can adjourn the meeting and give back 30 minutes to everyone | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:31 |
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| bh526r | thank you everyone, and bye all | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 18:32:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-02-15-18.00.html | 18:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-02-15-18.00.txt | 18:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-02-15-18.00.log.html | 18:32 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | anyone around for the illustrious storyboard meeting?# | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | s/#// | 19:00 |
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| * SotK is here | 19:00 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | \\\o/// | 19:00 |
| * diablo_rojo waves | 19:00 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | \\\\\o///// | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 19:01:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zara_the_lemur__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | new blogpost up shortly! That's a bad announcement but I'm announcing it anyway! | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Urgent items | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I don't think there's anything super urgent | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic in-progress | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I haven't got much done this week except the blogpost | 19:02 |
| * fungi should read that | 19:02 | |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | hopefully it'll be visible soon | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | our deployment mechanism is rather ad-hoc | 19:03 |
| dalvarez | ihrachys, i need to go but i suspect that haproxy is not installed... all those functional tests pass for me. I enabled syslog logging but I can't even see the which command.. http://logs.openstack.org/91/431691/7/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/b5827a0/testr_results.html.gz | 19:03 |
| fungi | dalvarez: wrong channel? | 19:03 |
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| diablo_rojo | lol, I would guess so | 19:04 |
| dalvarez | ops! sorry :(( | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | stay, it makes us feel popular! | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | dalvarez, no worries :) | 19:04 |
| dalvarez | lol sorry guys so many hours in a row i guess | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :) | 19:04 |
| SotK | :) | 19:04 |
| * SotK can see the new post at https://storyboard-blog.io/things-that-storyboard-does-differently.html | 19:05 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, yay! | 19:05 |
| fungi | nice! | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hopefully there's nothing too weird I've left in it by accident, but can always merge a fix if so :P | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I was hoping to get a look at the migration branch patch wip, ended up unexpectedly afk most of yesterday evening so that hasn't happened | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, just let me know when you feel good and I will draft something for the ML | 19:07 |
| * SotK should be able to look at that in the coming days | 19:07 | |
| SotK | I've not got anything done this week because I have had almost negative available time | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hah | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | diablo_rojo: sure! if nobody else spots anything weird then I'm fine with you doing that whenever, I don't think I'll remember to give an explicit 'go for it' so feel free to just do it if I haven't said anything in a bit | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | SotK: + infinity | 19:08 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | no further work on postgresql support from me, but I get the impression nobody's too interested in that anyway, so I doubt the world will end | 19:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Anyone take a look at my migration patch yet? :) | 19:11 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that's the one I meant at 7:06, sorry :( | 19:11 |
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| diablo_rojo | 7:06? | 19:13 |
| diablo_rojo | Sorry I am slow today- have like ten things going on at once. | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | haha local timestamps I forgot, oops | 19:13 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | "I was hoping to get a look at the migration branch patch wip, ended up unexpectedly afk most of yesterday evening so that hasn't happened" | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | turns out it's hard to quote myself in this client... | 19:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | ah | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | got it | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | so no one has looked yet :) | 19:14 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, sorry, it's a bad week for me :/ | 19:15 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | worst comes to the worst, I have some 9 hour flight or something soon... | 19:15 |
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| diablo_rojo | Right right, that works :) | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Its pretty short though. | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Won't take you 9 hours I mean | 19:16 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :D | 19:16 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, I'll try to look in the next couple of days, I just don't want to commit myself because I already have way too much to do | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, how's your migration stuff going? | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, totally understandable. Me too. Getting down to crunch time for next week. | 19:17 |
| SotK | I've not had chance to look at anything, its been a crazy week once again | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, no worries :) | 19:18 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I think it'll ease up a bit after atlanta | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | though famous last words and all that :) | 19:19 |
| * SotK thinks so too | 19:19 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and I should actually have a good chunk of time *in* atlanta to look at things | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (when everyone else is busy, of course) | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic open discussion | 19:21 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so ptg things... | 19:21 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | SotK, do you want to do a virtual thing sometime? | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I have to help take team photos on Tuesday, but that means I will be easy to find cause I will be in the same place. | 19:22 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | haha | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Other than that the beginning of my week is mostly free | 19:22 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (sotk: the time difference means our afternoon will be your evening so I figure that's your decision) | 19:22 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm around 'til Thurs, though flying back *on* thurs so I'd probably write that off | 19:23 |
| * zara_the_lemur__ always gets paranoid and gets to airports about 8 hours early | 19:23 | |
| diablo_rojo | I get that completely. | 19:24 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | beyond that, I expect to be hanging around in infra rooms; have recently been looking at some non-storyboard stuff that might be relevant to zuul, though it's still very up-in-the-air | 19:25 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so that's where I'm likely to be | 19:25 |
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| diablo_rojo | I will be in the Cinder stuff the end of the week. Floating around in the beginning of the week talking training guides stuff. | 19:26 |
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| fungi | diablo_rojo: you're more than welcome to hack on storyboard dev/reviews on monday! | 19:27 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | +10 | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, I think that's my plan :) | 19:28 |
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| fungi | i'm still not sure i'll know what logistics look like for having multiple different things going on at the same time in the infra room until i see it first hand | 19:28 |
| fungi | but we'll make it happen one way or another, even if we need to take over some lounge space or something at times | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | It will be a learning experience for everyone | 19:28 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | in austin we ended up in a secluded corner quite a lot anyway because it was quiet | 19:30 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so it should be fine | 19:30 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I don't have much to add since I figure I'll get there and field questions, hack on stuff, etc, and we have a pretty clear idea of what needs doing | 19:32 |
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| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, agreed | 19:33 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | if anyone wants to suggest anything more specific, now's the time! | 19:33 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | otherwise, I'll end the meeting | 19:34 |
| diablo_rojo | I got nothing for now. | 19:34 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | okay, in that case... | 19:34 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #endmeeting storyboard | 19:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 19:34:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:34 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, all! | 19:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-02-15-19.01.html | 19:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-02-15-19.01.txt | 19:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-02-15-19.01.log.html | 19:34 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | since I've got some spare time set aside for this meeting, I guess I gotta look at that lp branch patch now ;) | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 15 21:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| torgomatic | . | 21:00 |
| jrichli | o/ | 21:00 |
| joeljwright | evenin | 21:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 21:00 |
| mmotiani_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| cschwede_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:00 |
| sgundur | hi | 21:00 |
| pdardeau_ | hi | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hi | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | clayg_: timburke: ping | 21:01 |
| acoles | hi | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome back acoles | 21:01 |
| timburke | i'm here, i'm here! | 21:01 |
| acoles | thanks | 21:01 |
| notmyname | agenda this week is at... | 21:01 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:02 |
| notmyname | I want to cover the release and the PTG | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #topic ocata release | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | as you know, this week (ie tomorrow) is the release deadline for openstack ocata | 21:02 |
| notmyname | we'll be releasing swift 2.13.0. spoiler: it's the best one yet | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I've got an authors/changelog patch up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434081/ | 21:03 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | thanks for all the comments on it | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I've addressed the open ones, and I'm currently translating the changelog to yaml for the reno dir tree. then I'll push that patch, and I expect it to be the one that lands (but i'll ask for a few extra eyes for quick checks) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | and then when it lands we'll have the SHA for the release and I'll push that to the openstack-release repo | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | so we are or will be waiting on two things: me, to typey type and the gate queue | 21:04 |
| timburke | are we finally going to get our linky? as i recall, we don't have that yet... | 21:04 |
| notmyname | thank you to everything who contributed to swift in this release. there's a lot of good improvements | 21:05 |
| notmyname | timburke: I don't think so. I think there's another repos somewhere where we need to set up a job or reference the right thing or something | 21:05 |
| notmyname | timburke: would be great though | 21:05 |
| notmyname | so two key points about the release | 21:06 |
| notmyname | first, please don't land anything else right now :-) | 21:06 |
| notmyname | second, note that neither part power increase nor replicated ec fragments will be in the release | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ont eh second note, I would have loved to see them in teh release (especially part power increase), but the release is in no way "bad" without them | 21:07 |
| notmyname | just means we'll land them soon and the next release will be that much better ;-) | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | I know there's been a lot of work put in to those, especially over the last couple of weeks. thank you for that | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | and we'll have a cycle to make them even betterer | 21:08 |
| notmyname | yup :-) | 21:08 |
| notmyname | and actually have full global ec suppprt? | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:08 |
| kota_ | :-D | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:08 |
| notmyname | one interesting thing I noticed today about this release: I don't think there's a single CVE in it. I don't think that's good or bad, it's just interesting | 21:08 |
| timburke | notmyname: i'll have to work on that for next time ;-) | 21:09 |
| jungleboyj | We also go back to the normal release length now. :-) | 21:09 |
| notmyname | like not just 2.13.0, but all of ocata (anything after 2.10.0) | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | jungleboyj: yeah, but as cycle-with-intermediary, it's not a huge change either way | 21:09 |
| notmyname | timburke: going to code up some buffer overflows? | 21:10 |
| jungleboyj | Ahh, yeah ... sorry, Cinder head invading. ;-) | 21:10 |
| timburke | naturally | 21:10 |
| notmyname | any questions from anyone about this release? | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ok, let's move on | 21:10 |
| notmyname | #topic PTG next week | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-pike | 21:11 |
| notmyname | there's the scheduling etherpad | 21:11 |
| notmyname | just for the record, there will be no weekly IRC meeting next week | 21:11 |
| notmyname | in lieu of the ptg | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | after I get the release notes for 2.13 pushed, I'll be organizing the etherpad into blocks of topics so that there's as little overlap of interested people as possible | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | but remember that the three days we've got in our room will be lots of conversations at once | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | so that being said, come prepared to talk and to listen :-) | 21:13 |
| mattoliverau | so use your inside voice? I don't have one of those :P | 21:13 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: I'm looking forward to your sharding topic. ready? | 21:13 |
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| mattoliverau | sure am.. ready as I'll ever be :) | 21:14 |
| mattoliverau | there is some rough documentation up. | 21:14 |
| notmyname | /going down the etherpad... | 21:15 |
| notmyname | there's two topics related to golang object servers and another about the TC not-python rules | 21:15 |
| notmyname | I'll be organizing some info on the TC rules so we can discuss that | 21:15 |
| notmyname | I'm hoping that zaitcev, clayg_, and kota_ can help organize the golang stuff | 21:16 |
| clayg_ | was that today? | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | those names chosen because they're the 3 common names on those topics :-) | 21:16 |
| clayg | i hate the reconstructor; i hate all rebalances | 21:16 |
| notmyname | kota_: looks like good notes on the global ec topic. anything you need from the rest of us on that topic? | 21:17 |
| * cschwede_ nods in clayg's direction | 21:17 | |
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| notmyname | global ec includes composite rings discussion | 21:17 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: i think i added all i thought if i remember all things :P | 21:18 |
| notmyname | heh, ok :-) | 21:18 |
| notmyname | kota_: will kazuhiro be there? | 21:18 |
| kota_ | notmyname: sure | 21:18 |
| notmyname | great | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | between kazuhiro, kota_, tdasilva, jrichli, we'll cover policy migration, auto tiering, and symlinks. anything you need from the rest of us before we all get togehter? | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | ...I'm going to assume that's a "no, you're all good" ;-) | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | sorry, yeah, i'm all good | 21:20 |
| clayg | notmyname: or a ring zipper! | 21:20 |
| jrichli | +1 | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | clayg: write it down! :-) | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | hoping to have new version of symlink until then | 21:20 |
| clayg | what are we doing? | 21:20 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: high-latency middleware? do you know more about that or need anything? (you put your name down on it) | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | there's a meeting tonight | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | at 4am EST | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | :D | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: sorry, media. not middleware | 21:21 |
| notmyname | yikes! | 21:21 |
| jrichli | lol | 21:21 |
| notmyname | high latency middleware would be bad | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:22 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:22 |
| tdasilva | what i know is that they have been meeting constantly and I'm guessing slavisa and others will be there at the PTG?? | 21:22 |
| notmyname | cool | 21:22 |
| tdasilva | i'd like to follow up on how they are doing | 21:22 |
| notmyname | on the sync to elasticsearch topic, I'll bug timur about it to make sure he's got what he needs | 21:22 |
| jungleboyj | I think I have seen some high latency middleware before. | 21:22 |
| notmyname | jungleboyj: I think I've written some! ;-) | 21:22 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 21:23 |
| clayg | will the people driving that topic be there? | 21:23 |
| timburke | fah. let's put it in the server itsefl! https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/obj/server.py#L132 | 21:23 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: are you good on part power increase topic? I'm assuming that the only "discussion" by next week is who buys the beers | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | there is the slowdown middleware thats great for testing, but hopefully noone is using in prod :P | 21:23 |
| tdasilva | clayg: HLM? i believe slavisa will be there | 21:23 |
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| cschwede_ | notmyname: well, that would be a great topic actually ;) i'm fine with partpower increasing | 21:24 |
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| clayg | mattoliverau: oh yeah i forgot about that guy! | 21:24 |
| notmyname | ok, I've talked to romain about the small files storage topic. they've done some pretty cool investigation at OVH and are interested in working on that further | 21:25 |
| notmyname | current OVH info on that is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/small_files/experimentations | 21:25 |
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| kota_ | cool | 21:25 |
| notmyname | so read up on it so we can jump right in | 21:25 |
| mattoliverau | nice | 21:25 |
| notmyname | jrichli: notifications? good to go there? need anything from the rest of us before next week? | 21:25 |
| jrichli | good to go | 21:26 |
| notmyname | jrichli: and keymaster v2? | 21:26 |
| jrichli | mathiasb would be the one to ask | 21:26 |
| jrichli | but if he isn't here, i can ask him. | 21:26 |
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| mathiasb | I'll be there for keymaster v2 | 21:26 |
| notmyname | mathiasb: question to you. need anything for us before next week? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | for that topic? | 21:26 |
| mathiasb | no, I think we're good | 21:26 |
| notmyname | kk | 21:27 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: and container sync? | 21:27 |
| jrichli | good to go. not sure if we will get to that, anyway. so many topics! | 21:27 |
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| tdasilva | lol, hackaton was hard to cover everything in 5 days, now we only have 3 | 21:27 |
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| tdasilva | actually it was 4 days | 21:28 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: tdasilva: kota_: ring management topic. need anything from the group before next week? anything we can be reading over? | 21:28 |
| jungleboyj | tdasilva: Cinder team has the same worry. Will be interesting to see how this PTG thing works out. | 21:28 |
| tdasilva | jungleboyj: yeah, agree | 21:28 |
| clarkb | technically the full event is 5 days... | 21:28 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: not yet, i might write something down during my flight in | 21:28 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: ok, thanks | 21:28 |
| notmyname | acoles: kota_: the topic of ec issues. good to go on that? anything the rest of us can do before next week? | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: just talking about the stuff we need to cover that's swift-specific that we've got a room for. not knocking the other two days :-) | 21:29 |
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| kota_ | that is a list we're currently tracking, if anyone else notice another issue, please feel free to add your issue over there. | 21:30 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:30 |
| notmyname | kota_: tdasilva: pyeclib/libec work? consolidation, etc? | 21:30 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes, ok for the ec issues | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | nothing from me atm, hoping we can discuss there what we would like it to be | 21:31 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | and maybe we can even chat with infra guys | 21:31 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: true | 21:31 |
| tdasilva | is onovy going to be there? | 21:31 |
| notmyname | kota_: timburke: swift3 work? do we need a topic? | 21:31 |
| kota_ | notmyname: I don't have special for swift community but I think we still have some conversation while PTG | 21:32 |
| notmyname | kota_: ok | 21:32 |
| kota_ | so adding for notifiycation we will have that | 21:32 |
| kota_ | and if anyone is interested in, welcome for joining that. | 21:32 |
| kota_ | for swift3 | 21:32 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: I don't know if onovy will be there. | 21:33 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: ack | 21:33 |
| notmyname | there's also a note from eranrom that there's some storlet topics and they've got a room too | 21:33 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i'll ping him tomorrow to check and try to get some input from him in case he is not making it | 21:33 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: great. (would also be nice to check with him in light of zigo's email this morning re packaging) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ok, that's the topics we have on the etherpad | 21:34 |
| tdasilva | yeah, i saw that...ok, i will ask him | 21:34 |
| notmyname | since we've only got 3 days instead of the 4 we'd have at a hackathon, we WILL NOT be spending time at the front building a schedule and doing dots or anything | 21:34 |
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| clayg | notmyname: WATH!? | 21:35 |
| notmyname | so if there's somethign you want to talk about, PUT IT ON THE ETHERPAD :-) | 21:35 |
| clayg | how do you even hackathon without dots!? | 21:35 |
| clayg | i'm so confused | 21:35 |
| tdasilva | lol | 21:35 |
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| * clayg deep breaths - i'm sure notmyname has got this | 21:35 | |
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| notmyname | there will be a small amount of logistics just to see that we're getting stuff covered. and you know me. I like to talk ;-) | 21:35 |
| clayg | that's true | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | and show graphs ;) | 21:36 |
| notmyname | so first question: what's left off of the etherpad right now? | 21:36 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i do have a question. Do we know who is going to be there on Monday/Tuesday and assuming we might be able to find a corner somewhere are there any topics that could or could not be discussed in those two days? | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: graphs are great. talking about graphs? just wonderful | 21:36 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: I want to come back to mon/tues in just a bit | 21:36 |
| tdasilva | ok | 21:37 |
| notmyname | first, anything left off for wed-fri that we know of right now? | 21:37 |
| clayg | basically this is last call for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-pike right? | 21:37 |
| notmyname | sortof | 21:37 |
| notmyname | we can add stuff as we go, of course | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | not that I can think of in my under caffenated state. | 21:38 |
| clayg | we've had that link in the last three meetings and everytime I look it it has more good stuff - but my stuff is already on there - so ... if you haven't got your stuff on there? WTF are you doing? | 21:38 |
| clayg | :P | 21:38 |
| notmyname | but we won't be "together" like this any more | 21:38 |
| notmyname | ...before atlanta | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | sorry. kinda awkward return placement there | 21:38 |
| notmyname | sounded like we were all dying or something. EVERYTHIGN IS FINE | 21:39 |
| cschwede_ | phew! | 21:39 |
| notmyname | ok, let's talk mon/tues then | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | from what I've heard, i think most people will be there all week, but there's probablty about 1/3 of us who will only be there wed-fri | 21:39 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads | 21:40 |
| notmyname | that's got the links for all the etherpads | 21:40 |
| notmyname | AFAIK there is not an overall schedule | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | so I think we will need to look at each of those mon/tues ones and figure out where we need to be and when we need to be there | 21:40 |
| kota_ | why don't you add the list of names who's be in which day in the etherpad? | 21:41 |
| clarkb | there is for the shared "projector/discussion/Iforgetwhatitscalled" rooms but otherwise I think the idea was to use #openstack-ptg to coordinate things | 21:41 |
| notmyname | kota_: that's a great idea | 21:41 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: where's the schedule for that shared room? | 21:41 |
| notmyname | I guess i missed the #openstack-ptg channel info | 21:42 |
| clarkb | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms (its on the wiki page you linked) | 21:42 |
| notmyname | /join #openstack-ptg | 21:42 |
| clarkb | right at the top above "only monday" | 21:42 |
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| notmyname | to be fair, it's very tiny words ;-) | 21:42 |
| notmyname | does anyone think we'll need a projector for a particular topic? | 21:43 |
| clayg | clarkb: I would like my monday and maybe tuesday to be sitting in a room of people who know enough stuff about devstack that when I say "I hate out devstack's swift support does xyz and I changed like this" they can say - "sure that's fine" - or "no you're stupid" | 21:43 |
| notmyname | if so, we'll need to reserve the projector room and move over there. I'd suggest trying not to need a projector | 21:44 |
| clayg | i may just wander around yelling devstack until someone stops me | 21:44 |
| clarkb | clayg: you want to find the QA room | 21:44 |
| clarkb | I think that would be a good place for doing such things | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | what are other cross-project stuff we need to be yelling about on mon-tues? | 21:46 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: what'd you have in mind? | 21:46 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: or are you just wanting to find other swift people on mon/tues? ;-) | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: i was just wondering if it does happen that a group of swift folks end up spending a couple hours together mon or tuesday if there was any topic that could be discussed | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | as to make time for the wed-friday discussiosn | 21:47 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: there always is :-) | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | assuming there will probably not be enough time to discuss everything | 21:47 |
| notmyname | as clayg said once, "I dare you to put two swift devs in teh same city any try not to do code/design work" ;-) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | not enough time is probably a good assumption, unfortunately | 21:48 |
| mattoliverau | I'll only really be there on Tuesday, but might need to go sit in Openstack Ansible so I can figure out if there is anything swift I can fix up for them. But that probably wont be the whole day. I just need to figure out if and when they talk about the os_swift role | 21:49 |
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| notmyname | does anyone else have anything else to bring up this week? | 21:50 |
| cschwede_ | mattoliverau: what? you're only there on Tuesday? Single day? | 21:50 |
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| mattoliverau | cschwede_: for the mon/tues part :) | 21:50 |
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| mattoliverau | I actually arrive monday arvo.. but I don't think anyone would want to see me then :P | 21:51 |
| cschwede_ | mattoliverau: ok, got it. it's late... | 21:51 |
| clayg | notmyname: maybe we need to solicit some more feedback to for cross project work? | 21:51 |
| notmyname | clayg: in what way? | 21:51 |
| clayg | I've heard on numerous occasions that swift in devstack (and in particular logging) is not great - so that's what I want to work on | 21:51 |
| mattoliverau | clayg: yeah, great | 21:52 |
| clayg | we've been lambasted for not making cross-project work a prioirty - so ... i guess our self prioritziation is wrong? | 21:52 |
| clayg | for folks that will be there Mon-Tues - we should probably be looking to get extrernal prioritization of how to spend that time? maybe? idk? | 21:53 |
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| clayg | didn't someone write something something TC golang - shouldn't we talk to someone about that myabe? no one on our eatherpad even signed up as *interested* | 21:53 |
| kota_ | ah, so a qustion come up in my mind | 21:54 |
| kota_ | for the cross-project, where we can catch up the topics and schedule? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | kota_: the best I know of is to look at the individual etherpads | 21:54 |
| kota_ | ok | 21:55 |
| kota_ | it would be scheduled already | 21:55 |
| notmyname | clayg: all I can come up with to answer is "yes" but I don't feel that's a very helpful answer | 21:55 |
| notmyname | kota_: sortof. there's no global scheduling. different teams are each given a room, and they can do whatever they want in that room | 21:55 |
| mattoliverau | cross project or inter-projects? really both I suspect | 21:55 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: the inter-project stuff would be wtih the other wed-fri rooms | 21:56 |
| notmyname | (if my definitions are current) | 21:56 |
| clayg | notmyname: that would make sense to me | 21:56 |
| notmyname | the cross-project stuff is mon/tues | 21:56 |
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| mattoliverau | So going to help with say QA, infra or releases would be cross. I always though inter would be working with an other team on say swift stuff. | 21:56 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: right | 21:56 |
| jrichli | i have to admit, i am not sure what to do monday. i think i am just gonna find one of you and follow along. | 21:57 |
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| notmyname | best I can see for cross project stuff is to show up in one of those rooms and listen? | 21:57 |
| notmyname | I'll admit that's not a great plan | 21:58 |
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| notmyname | one thing that will be good eg is the tc not-python rules | 21:58 |
| clayg | there's been a bunch of chatter on the ML coming from osc's swift support - anyone going to be in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-ptg-pike | 21:58 |
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| jungleboyj | They have already gotten feedback that the cross-project needs to be better thought out. | 21:58 |
| jrichli | i feel like an idiot: but i dont see anything on the room schedule for monday excpet for oslo at 11. what am i missing? | 21:58 |
| jungleboyj | Needs to be more focus on inter-project. | 21:58 |
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| clayg | clarkb: was QA - question/answer or quality assurance? | 21:59 |
| mattoliverau | jrichli: are you just looking at the projector rooms sched? | 21:59 |
| clayg | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads <- jrichli maybe this one is better? | 21:59 |
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| mattoliverau | clayg: Quality assurance (devstack, granade, etc) | 22:00 |
| clayg | storyboard? do we need to know about storyboard? | 22:00 |
| notmyname | I'll likely try to go by the docs room to talk about consolidating our docs trees. i'll likely try to go by the infra one to talk about golang stuff | 22:00 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: I DID NOT KNOW THAT!? | 22:00 |
| kota_ | looks like we're running out of time | 22:00 |
| notmyname | kota_: ah, you're right | 22:00 |
| notmyname | I'm looking forward to seeing everyone next week | 22:01 |
| clayg | notmyname: the WSGI thing? | 22:01 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, the release goals are important for us to be present in | 22:01 |
| notmyname | thanks everyone for coming. thanks for working on swift | 22:01 |
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| notmyname | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 15 22:01:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-02-15-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-02-15-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| clarkb | clayg: quality assuramce | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-02-15-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 22:01 |
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