| ekcs | time for congress meeting. thinrichs aimeeu masahito ramineni_ | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 00:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
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| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | Hi all! Hope everyone's having a great week. | 00:00 |
| ekcs | topics today: | 00:01 |
| ekcs | - Ocata release | 00:01 |
| ekcs | - PTG discussions | 00:01 |
| ekcs | - PTG activities | 00:01 |
| ekcs | anything else to add? | 00:01 |
| aimeeu | hi all - agenda lgtm | 00:01 |
| ekcs | hi aimeeu | 00:02 |
| ekcs | ok then. let’s dive right in. | 00:03 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata release | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | This week is the final week to issue new RC for Ocata. | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | are there any bugs or patches to talk about? | 00:04 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/congress+branch:stable/ocata | 00:04 |
| ekcs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress | 00:04 |
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| bryan_att | Hi all | 00:06 |
| ekcs | hi bryan_att ! | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: do you think this patch ready to merge? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432173/ | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | I think the one change in stable/ocata is ready, except it doesn't have the test that the one in master does. | 00:07 |
| ramineni_ | I cherry-picked the test one to ocata also | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | Oops—I see now. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | Shall we push it in then? | 00:09 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: sounds good to me.= | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | Maybe we should merge into master as well | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: ? | 00:10 |
| ramineni_ | Yes | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | Done | 00:10 |
| ekcs | thanks! | 00:11 |
| ekcs | unfortunately my progress has been slow on this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1662809 | 00:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662809 in congress "500 error on nova datasource delete" [Critical,New] | 00:11 |
| ekcs | I'd consider an important bug to fix, but not necessarily a release blocker. I'd still like to get a fix in this week, but if I don't succeed (50/50 at best at this point), I suggest we just document a workaround. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | what do others think? | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | final RC is due tomorrow? | 00:12 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: yes 2/17 | 00:13 |
| ekcs | so we have about two days. | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | If we don't have a fix in time, we document it and the workaround. Then we release an update once we patch the problem. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | +1 | 00:14 |
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| thinrichs | For a time we had an option where you couldn't delete a datasource if there were rules that mentioned it in the body. | 00:14 |
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| masahito | hi. sorry late. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | hi masahito | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: hi | 00:15 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: I see. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | masahito: we’re talking about this bug. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1662809 | 00:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662809 in congress "500 error on nova datasource delete" [Critical,New] | 00:17 |
| ekcs | unfortunately we don’t have a fix yet. so if we can’t get a fix in, thinrichs and I were talking about documenting in the release and releasing an update later. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | I wonder if the datasource deletion is partially working, but then getting the error that says the datasource shouldn't be deleted by the PE, and not handling it properly. | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: possible. like maybe there is leftover code in the PE that tries to block the deletion? | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | well I’ll look into it some more. I think it’s an easy fix once the problem is pinpointed. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | let’s move on then if there is no other ocata item to discuss? | 00:20 |
| ekcs | ok. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG discussions | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | big thanks to all who contributed or discussed topics to the etherpad. I think we’ll have plenty to talk about. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ptg-pike | 00:23 |
| ekcs | definitely feel free to continue. | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | To help us use the time at PTG efficiently, I suggested we volunteer to initiate the topics we want to start. What do you all think about that? | 00:25 |
| ekcs | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112204.html | 00:25 |
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| thinrichs | That's a good idea | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | oh concurrently, here is a rough proposed schedule for our two days. Any thoughts/comments/suggestions? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112205.html | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | oh sorry thinrichs for jumping around. | 00:27 |
| masahito | make sense. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | Just noticed the Dattalog enhancements section in the etherpad. We added the CIDR math builtins in Ocata, so is that still a topic to cover? | 00:30 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: I’m not sure there’s anything more to do there. | 00:32 |
| ekcs | possible we can get some feedback on whether more is needed. | 00:33 |
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| thinrichs | The schedule seems fine. We might want to keep a running list of priorities (or maybe relative priorities) as we discuss topics and then review/revisit/finalize those priorities in the last hour on Thu | 00:33 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: yes absolutely. otherwise we’d forget all the important things from wednesday. | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | As long as we treat it the schedule as fluid. Have we ordered the topics in roughly priority order so that if we don't get to everything we only miss out on the least important items? | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | The UI is going to be important for early users, so we might not want to leave that til the end. | 00:35 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: we haven’t ordered the topics. I’d also suggested that we (+1 nick) the items we find important. so that can be a rough guide when we need to cut things out. | 00:35 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: sounds good | 00:36 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: I see. maybe we can start that discussion before lunch on thursday? | 00:37 |
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| ekcs | bryan_att: if you’re still around, which parts of which days do you expect to join us? | 00:38 |
| ekcs | so we can consider that in setting the schedule. | 00:38 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: I like your suggestion of people voting so we can see what's most important and then putting the least important things last | 00:38 |
| bryan_att | I should be pretty flexible | 00:38 |
| bryan_att | wed-thu, right? | 00:38 |
| ekcs | bryan_att: yup. | 00:39 |
| bryan_att | ok, so slot me in where you can, and I'll prepare some more details on the things we added to the etherpad | 00:39 |
| ekcs | bryan_att: ok thanks | 00:39 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: that makes sense. we may want more granularity then. +1 for important and +2 for very important? | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 00:40 |
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| masahito | +1 | 00:40 |
| ekcs | haha. ok then. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | anything on the topics we want to talk about now? | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | on the WSGI community-wide goal, we’re listed as potentially not conforming. https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html#current-state-anticipated-impact | 00:42 |
| ekcs | I’m not sure yet exactly what we need to do to conform or maybe we already do it’s just not obvious because we don’t use one of the standard implementations. | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s move on then if we don’t have anything we need to discuss right now. | 00:45 |
| ramineni_ | I'll try to look into it | 00:45 |
| ekcs | thanks ramineni_ ! | 00:45 |
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| ekcs | ok. | 00:46 |
| ekcs | let’s go straight to open discussion. | 00:46 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | we can talk about PTG activities or anything else. | 00:47 |
| ekcs | We’re all set for Thursday dinner at 7PM at R. Thomas Deluxe Grill? | 00:48 |
| ramineni_ | How are we planning to communicate over there .. IRC | 00:49 |
| ramineni_ | ? | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: yep—reservation is under my name for 7p on Thu. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: does text messaging work for everyone? | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | If not, anyone have an IRC phone app to recommend? | 00:50 |
| aimeeu | irccloud | 00:51 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: IRC kind of worked in barcelona. aimeeu recommended IRCcloud | 00:51 |
| ramineni_ | Ya .. Already have that on phone | 00:51 |
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| ramineni_ | Sounds good to me | 00:52 |
| ekcs | I think there is a small fee for being perpetually signed in (otherwise in free version you’re dropped after two hours of inactivity and won’t get new messages), but there is a free trial period. | 00:52 |
| aimeeu | slack is another option, or groupme | 00:53 |
| masahito | or google hangout | 00:54 |
| aimeeu | the women of openstack use groupme - no issues at past summits | 00:54 |
| ekcs | hahaha. | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | +1 for Slack , hangout , haven't used groupme though | 00:55 |
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| masahito | me too. I haven't used groupme. +1 for Slack, hangout or IRC. | 00:57 |
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| ekcs | I’d say if people don’t mind paying the $5 to sign up for IRCcloud for a month, we can use that because it’s most accessible to new people we don’t know. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | but if that’s a problem, then slack sounds good. | 00:57 |
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| ekcs | ok well time’s up =) | 00:59 |
| ekcs | see you all at PTG next week. | 01:00 |
| masahito | ekcs: that's no problem for me :) | 01:00 |
| ekcs | oh i guess that mean we should cancel meeting. I’ll announce on ML. | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs | See you all next week! | 01:00 |
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| ekcs | ok thanks all and have a great week/weekend! | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 01:01:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-02-16-00.00.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-02-16-00.00.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-02-16-00.00.log.html | 01:01 |
| masahito | see you all! | 01:01 |
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| ianychoi | Hi eumel8 | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | hi, ianychoi | 13:00 |
| ianychoi | Okay... Let's start :) | 13:01 |
| eumel8 | just say hello due the parallel meeting like every Thursday afternoon | 13:01 |
| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 13:01:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:01 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep :) | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi | #topic roll call | 13:02 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm I am not sure who will more come to the meeting, but I will wait :) | 13:02 |
| jpich | Hello :) | 13:03 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, hello! | 13:03 |
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| jpich | Very grateful for all the contributions to tripleo-ui translations from the i18n community :) | 13:04 |
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| eumel8 | yep | 13:05 |
| eumel8 | we're done :) | 13:05 |
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| ianychoi | :) How I have not recently seen translation progress ratio on tripleo-ui. Wow great German! | 13:05 |
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| jpich | Sorry that the percentages are dropping, it's our first i18n release so we're finding lots of missing i18n strings!! Hopefully we will do better in Pike :) | 13:06 |
| jpich | And yes, super happy about all the new languages \o/ | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | Wow currently there are 6 translated strings (including en-gb) for tripleo-ui! | 13:07 |
| jpich | \o/ | 13:08 |
| ianychoi | #topic Translation progress & finalization w.r.t. StringFreeze | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | Horizon team said that Horizon would be finally tagged with RC2 within today | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:10 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/horizon/tree/openstack_dashboard/settings.py?h=stable/ocata#n211 | 13:12 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://translate.openstack.org/version-group/view/ocata-dashboard-translation/ | 13:12 |
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| ianychoi | When I see both, IMO no modification for current supported language would be fine, although there has not been translations during Ocata cycle for some language translation | 13:13 |
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| eumel8 | has the czech team not enough progress for release? | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | suh, hi | 13:15 |
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| eumel8 | saw something last week | 13:15 |
| suh | Hi, everybody | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, czech team has contributed on horizon :) | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | suh, hi! | 13:15 |
| eumel8 | hi suh | 13:16 |
| suh | hi eume18 | 13:16 |
| suh | I am indonesian translator | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | yep :) | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | jpich, by the way, would it be possible for tripleo-ui to change release model to cycle-with-milestone later? | 13:18 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: unfortunately I don't think so, all of tripleo is cycle-trailing and we depend on other TripleO components | 13:20 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, I see, then when would tripleo-ui will have stable branch? | 13:21 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: For Ocata we are trying to create it today (in fact right now! Unfortunately we're hitting some issues and currently working through them in #openstack-release) | 13:22 |
| jpich | In general we create branches for the first RC and it is about 2 weeks later than the other projects, though it's not set in stone | 13:22 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, I see. I do not want to push stable branch creation for tripleo projects. For I18n team, PTL creates stable branches around the end of hard stringfreeze currently. I am now identifying which timing for 2nd (and 3rd if needed) round of stable version creation in Zanata & adding infrastructure job would be the best | 13:24 |
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| ianychoi | Oh zzxwill hi! | 13:26 |
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| eumel8 | hi zzxwill | 13:26 |
| zzxwill | Hi ianychoi. Sorry I'm late. | 13:26 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, that's fine :) | 13:27 |
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| zzxwill | Hello eumel8:) | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, thanks a lot for encouraging Chinese translations! | 13:27 |
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| zzxwill | It's my duty:) | 13:27 |
| jpich | ianychoi: As much as possible I don't want to cause more work for you and i18n team so, please let me know what I can do to help, if there are things I can do myself. E.g. I can at least notify you when the branch gets created each release, so that you don't have to worry and keep checking for it | 13:27 |
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| ianychoi | Horizon will have RC2 stable/ocata tagging today (Thanks a lot - r1chardj0n3s and robcresswell !) | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | #info Horizon will have RC2 stable/ocata tagging today | 13:28 |
| robcresswell | We can still add more to stable as they are proposed and release later on | 13:28 |
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| ianychoi | robcresswell, I have checked current translation ratio and also current language lists and then IMO most active translation teams have contributed well :) | 13:29 |
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| robcresswell | Yeah, mostly looks pretty good | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | jpich, thanks! I may need to talk with release management team next week | 13:30 |
| robcresswell | There are a couple that are 60/70%; would be nice if they could raise a little | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | jpich, also hope to see during PTG! | 13:31 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: Sounds good! I think everyone is still figuring out what cycle-trailing means, for intermediate deadlines like feature freeze, RC, etc. It should be an interesting conversation :) Looking forward to meeting you as well! | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, yep :) | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | #topic PTG topics | 13:33 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-pike | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | Please see the updated Etherpad content - asettle arranged a lot so great :) | 13:34 |
| eumel8 | yep, nice | 13:34 |
| zzxwill | +1 | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, where do you live? Berlin or Munchen (a.k.a., your timezone is same as Paris?) | 13:36 |
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| eumel8 | Berlin | 13:36 |
| ianychoi | suh, how about you? Jakarta? | 13:37 |
| suh | Yep, I live in Jakarta, capitol city | 13:37 |
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| ianychoi | #info There will be an online meeting session on Feb 21 Mon: 2:40pm - 3:20pm | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | #link https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20170221&p1=25&p2=137&p3=136&p4=195&p5=37&p6=166&p7=33&p8=235&p9=248&p10=108&p11=47 | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | Please see Atlanta timezone first then your timezone. | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | suh, it might be 02:40 - 03:20 am on Tuesday... | 13:39 |
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| eumel8 | late | 13:40 |
| ianychoi | Note that the time was determined according to the input on the bottom | 13:40 |
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| ianychoi | Back to PTG topics... | 13:42 |
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| suh | Jakarat time is 2 hours behind Seoul and Tokyo | 13:42 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, the first discussion will be with Horizon strings. I have talked with Docs team and they did not have test instances such as similar with translation checksite | 13:43 |
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| eumel8 | ok | 13:43 |
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| eumel8 | we had the same discussion in DE team | 13:43 |
| eumel8 | test platform for docs | 13:44 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, oh good. Would you share some discussion to us later (not now since you are in parrllel meetings) | 13:44 |
| eumel8 | there are only requirements | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | For i18n team, please see "(for docs and i18n)" tag on Etherpad | 13:45 |
| eumel8 | maybe we can talk more on PTG | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep :) | 13:45 |
| eumel8 | and it would be easier as translation checksite | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | Moreover on Tuesday I will try to make schedule to go to release-management team to discuss with ttx (release models & stringFreezes) and also horizon team ( robcresswell + others) to discuss it & more on string changes | 13:46 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | The room is mainly for Docs+I18n but I would like to make myself more flexibility on Tuesday | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Planning the next translation priorities | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi | I18n team usually decided translation priorities during Design Summit. | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi | Since release cycle has been slightly modified, we now have two choices: | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi | 1) Discussing during PTG period via online | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | 2) Translating Documentation like AS-IS and discuss & decide translation priorities during Forum (May - Boston) | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, suh, zzxwill_ which method do you prefer? | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | s/method/timing | 13:50 |
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| eumel8 | 1 | 13:50 |
| suh | sorry, no idea so far | 13:50 |
| zzxwill_ | 1 | 13:50 |
| ianychoi | But.. online seems be too difficult | 13:51 |
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| eumel8 | not sure, if my journey to Boston will go well | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep that's another concern | 13:52 |
| zzxwill__ | better if decided earlier | 13:52 |
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| eumel8 | 2 should be better, of course | 13:52 |
| eumel8 | zzxwill: also true | 13:52 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, zzxwill__ thanks for your opinions :) Hmm let's discuss again on the next week :) | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | #topic Zanata upgrade | 13:53 |
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| ianychoi | #link translate.openstack.org | 13:53 |
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| ianychoi | #undo | 13:53 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link translate.openstack.org | 13:53 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://translate-dev.openstack.org/ | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | #info translate-dev.o.o now runs with Zanata 3.9.6! | 13:54 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev | 13:54 |
| zzxwill__ | 3.75 in production? | 13:54 |
| zzxwill__ | 3.7.5 | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill__, no production is 3.7.3 and dev is 3.9.6 | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi | I am testing now and currently I have found that re-import of glossaries is needed | 13:55 |
| zzxwill__ | Got it:) | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | Except that data migration seems to be fine | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | I will test remaining things soon | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will test Zanata 3.9.6 on translate-dev.o.o | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Open Discussions | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill__, by the way, can we share Boston summit presentation URL? | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | I don't think so | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2017-February/001703.html | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/vote-for-speakers | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | Vote for speakers (Boston Summit) is now open | 13:57 |
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| ianychoi | If you search "I18N" you will see some interesting I18N sessions :) | 13:57 |
| eumel8 | yep | 13:57 |
| zzxwill__ | Yes. Four presentations/panel for i18n. | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | That's all for today from me. Anything else to be discussed? | 13:58 |
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| zzxwill__ | Nope from me. Thanks ianychoi | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | nope | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | thx | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot today, zzxwill__ eumel8 suh and jpich ! | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | + robcresswell :) | 13:59 |
| suh | ok | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 13:59:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-02-16-13.01.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-02-16-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-02-16-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| rodrigods | o/ | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Good evening everyone, who's around for the meeting today? | 17:00 |
| dmellado | o/ hi guys | 17:00 |
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| andreaf | Today's agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_February_16th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
| oomichi | hi | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | jordanP, mtreinish, afazekas: around? | 17:01 |
| * andreaf waits 1 more minute for folks to join | 17:02 | |
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| * oomichi +1 | 17:02 | |
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| andreaf | ok, let's start | 17:03 |
| tosky | hi | 17:03 |
| andreaf | #topic PTG | 17:03 |
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| chandankumar | \o/ | 17:03 |
| andreaf | hi folks | 17:04 |
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| andreaf | Based on the proposed sessions, I setup a schedule for QA at the PTG | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | o/ | 17:04 |
| andreaf | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-QA-Planning | 17:05 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, the schedule is pretty good for me. | 17:05 |
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| blancos | o/ | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: is that overlap between dealing with the gate bug debugging session and grenade? | 17:06 |
| andreaf | we're now very close to the PTG, so I kind reminder to session owners to do some preparation work on the sessions in the corresponding etherpad, so we can focus on the discussion at the PTG | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | I think we should try to avoid that, because the grenade group is small and has a lot of overlap with gate expertise | 17:06 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: grenade is monday, debugging the gate is Tuesday | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | oh, sry I can't read | 17:07 |
| dmellado | I was also wondering if you'll be around for more days than Mon-Tue | 17:07 |
| oomichi | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms | 17:07 |
| oomichi | ^^ x-p session on extra rooms | 17:07 |
| dmellado | maybe if we're short on time we could try to (even non-officially) meet | 17:07 |
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| luzC | o/ | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | dmellado: I'll be there all week | 17:08 |
| oomichi | dmellado: yeah, we can | 17:08 |
| andreaf | I made the sessions 1h long, i.e. ~50min + ~10 min break for people to move if needed | 17:08 |
| andreaf | so that it's closer to the format we had at design summits | 17:08 |
| andreaf | as I felt that 30min including break is too short | 17:08 |
| andreaf | dmellado: I will be there until Friday morning | 17:09 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, +1 on 1h for each session | 17:09 |
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| luzC | andreaf thanks for the schedule looks really good | 17:09 |
| andreaf | dmellado: if we're there and there's a room / space available we can surely use the time to continue design / code sprint | 17:10 |
| dmellado | andreaf: oomichi mtreinish that'd be cool | 17:10 |
| andreaf | dmellado: I certainly would like to make the best of my time in Atlanta | 17:10 |
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| andreaf | there's the "team picture" thing as well that we need to schedule | 17:11 |
| andreaf | I was thinking Mon or Tue so we're all around for sure | 17:11 |
| * rodrigods won't be there | 17:11 | |
| rodrigods | :( | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | rodrigods: :( that's too bad | 17:11 |
| andreaf | but maybe just before or after lunch so that we don't have to move around too much between sessions | 17:12 |
| oomichi | rodrigods: oh, that is not good | 17:12 |
| andreaf | rodrigods: doh | 17:12 |
| dmellado | rodrigods: :\ | 17:12 |
| dmellado | rodrigods: I won't enter into details but you know my opinion on that... | 17:12 |
| rodrigods | lol | 17:12 |
| rodrigods | that's fine, will try to follow the etherpad's updates | 17:13 |
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| andreaf | so unless there's any comment on that I will book the photo slot | 17:13 |
| dmellado | andreaf: +1 | 17:14 |
| oomichi | andreaf: nice to take team photo :) | 17:14 |
| andreaf | also a couple of logistic notes: we won't have a projector in the rooms, so please bring some device with which you can get to the etherpad | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | and join #openstack-ptg for updates and x-projects notifications | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | I look forward to seeing all of you there | 17:15 |
| andreaf | well not rodrigods this time :( | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: well the cross project rooms do have a projector | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | but yeah in general there isn't one | 17:16 |
| dmellado | andreaf: do you know if there's a tv set? | 17:16 |
| dmellado | maybe not projector, but it'd be nice to hook up a bigger screen | 17:16 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: heh yes good point - so if you have something to share I think there's still time to book rooms with projectors | 17:17 |
| andreaf | ok anything else on the PTG? | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | dmellado: aiui the normal discussion rooms don't have that, it's just like a meeting room | 17:17 |
| dmellado | mtreinish: got that, I was just thinking about the rooms at BCN | 17:18 |
| oomichi | dmellado: ah, some rooms did, but the rooms didn't at BCN | 17:18 |
| dmellado | oomichi: oh, it's true! just recalled about the last room | 17:19 |
| dmellado | well, we'll manage xD | 17:19 |
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| andreaf | next topic? | 17:20 |
| oomichi | andreaf: one question: how to use https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike-community-input ? | 17:20 |
| oomichi | andreaf: we just will write some ideas or plans during the PTG session? or do we need to prepare the etherpad? | 17:21 |
| andreaf | oomichi: well I send a message to the ML to start collecting input in there... but got none this far | 17:21 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, I guessed so.. | 17:21 |
| dmellado | :\ | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | anyways we have 30min in a shared room allocated for that, so if folks show up we'll track their input there | 17:22 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, it would be nice | 17:22 |
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| andreaf | and if anyone in the QA team knows of issues / feedback / input from other teams please track it there | 17:23 |
| dmellado | folks, need to run for today | 17:23 |
| dmellado | looking forward to see you all guys again next week! | 17:24 |
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| rodrigods | dmellado, o/ see you | 17:24 |
| andreaf | see you there | 17:24 |
| oomichi | dmellado: yeah, see you next week :) | 17:24 |
| rodrigods | not there :( | 17:24 |
| dmellado | rodrigods: rest assured I'll bring your 'topic' there | 17:24 |
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| rodrigods | dmellado, heh thanks | 17:24 |
| andreaf | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:25 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:25 |
| andreaf | anything to discuss on specs? | 17:25 |
| andreaf | I guess we'll have time for that in Atlanta | 17:25 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:25 |
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| andreaf | Anything on Tempest? | 17:26 |
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| oomichi | nothing from me at this time | 17:27 |
| andreaf | Any input from the bug triage? | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: we're close to getting py3 passing. All we need is: | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429949/ | 17:27 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: cool - is that ready for review now? | 17:28 |
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| mtreinish | heh, frickler caught a nova bug iterating on that | 17:28 |
| andreaf | I saw you and jordanP were working on it | 17:28 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: oh, nice. py35 job passes! | 17:28 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: nice work frickler! | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I haven't looked at the latest rev yet, but I imagine it's probably ready for real review | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | it just won't land until the nova fix does, because of the depends on | 17:29 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, oomichi: ok we should probably have a patch up to make the py3 job voting soon before we break it | 17:29 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: +1 on making it voting after that | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I'll have to ask dims the status there, but we want to make sure it's voting on all projects that are running under py3 there | 17:31 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: it was your week for bug triage - do you have anything to report? | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: I did file a bug related to py3 stuff this week: | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1664454 | 17:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664454 in tempest "tempest unit test tempest.tests.lib.services.test_clients.TestClientsFactory.test___init___no_module fails on py36" [Low,New] | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | but it's not critical | 17:32 |
| dims | mtreinish : i'll start proposing voting on py3 jobs after PTG | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | dims: ok cool | 17:33 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: are you trying unittests on py36? Is that a single problem on current unit tests? | 17:34 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: ok thanks I will have a look - probably after PTG though | 17:34 |
| * mtreinish is looking forward to removing https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/overview.html#python-3-x from the docs | 17:34 | |
| mtreinish | oomichi: yeah, archlinux always uses the latest released version of python. So I'm on py36 already | 17:34 |
| mtreinish | and 1 test is failing when I do | 17:35 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: oh, cool. Thank you and archlinux for doing that | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | but it's not critical to fix, because we won't start gating on 3.6 (or newer) until 2018 | 17:35 |
| oomichi | oh, I see | 17:36 |
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| andreaf | ok about bug triage again, I will extend the schedule on the etherpad tomorrow, please start to sign up for the next few weeks | 17:36 |
| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 17:37 |
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| oomichi | I hope https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372581/ is merged into master for bug triage | 17:38 |
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| oomichi | that is made by masayukig and in long-time | 17:38 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: well we could in theory gate on it if we wanted to earlier | 17:38 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: but ya likely not a high priority until 3.5 works well | 17:38 |
| andreaf | oomichi: oh nice - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372581/ | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: sure, but yeah its not really worth the effort | 17:39 |
| andreaf | masayukig: thanks for that ^^^ | 17:39 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, I forgot to update https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph many times. So the patch will help us | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: why not just write a cron job to update it | 17:41 |
| andreaf | ok anything else on Tempest? | 17:41 |
| andreaf | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:41 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: because of waited for the patch merger ;) | 17:41 |
| oomichi | That was just a workaround when I proposed | 17:42 |
| oomichi | That = my local graph | 17:42 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, please go ahead | 17:42 |
| andreaf | well the only thing I have on devstack is that it's now using cirros 0.3.5 which includes a fix to the sshd daemon start script to regenerate host keys if missing | 17:43 |
| andreaf | that might help with the hard reboot test which has been failing every now and then on the ssh job | 17:43 |
| andreaf | #topic openstack-health | 17:45 |
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| andreaf | anything on o-h to report / discuss? | 17:45 |
| andreaf | #topic Patrole | 17:46 |
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| andreaf | Anything on Patrole to be discussed? | 17:46 |
| blancos | We have a few topics for the PTG, but nothing urgent | 17:46 |
| andreaf | blancos: ok, looking forward to talk about them at the PTG | 17:47 |
| andreaf | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:47 |
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| andreaf | any review that needs urgent attention? | 17:47 |
| rodrigods | i would like to ask ppl to take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/426249/ | 17:48 |
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| rodrigods | it is one of the final pieces of a set of patches in test_roles | 17:48 |
| andreaf | rodrigods: ok will do | 17:49 |
| rodrigods | thanks | 17:49 |
| oomichi | rodrigods: thanks for your work so much. I will try it again | 17:49 |
| rodrigods | thank you all for the reviews so far | 17:49 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: this is e-r but maybe you want to relook at this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434238/ | 17:49 |
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| andreaf | From the agenda, #info rodrigods is the new QA liaison for keystone | 17:50 |
| rodrigods | andreaf, ++ | 17:50 |
| tosky | \o/ | 17:50 |
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| rodrigods | so please let me know of anything that might need someone from keystone to take a look | 17:50 |
| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#QA | 17:51 |
| andreaf | \o/ | 17:51 |
| rodrigods | also, add me as reviewer | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: have you asked neutron about that, while I agree we should have a wider bug to track it, I'd prefer if we just marked the bug as a dup | 17:51 |
| rodrigods | i regularly revisit my reviews queue | 17:51 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: mark which one as a dup, the neutron one? | 17:52 |
| oomichi | rodrigods: really nice work on QA side also, thx | 17:52 |
| rodrigods | oomichi, ++ :) | 17:52 |
| andreaf | I will check with neutron team, ok | 17:53 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: yeah mark the neutron bug as a dup of the openstack-gate bug | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | or add openstack-gate to the neutron bug | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | I just don't like moving that query around, we're essentially just tracking 1 thing | 17:53 |
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| andreaf | well ok I don't mind either I just want to make sure we have a gate issue open for that | 17:54 |
| andreaf | I will ping the neutron folks | 17:55 |
| andreaf | ok five minutes to go... | 17:55 |
| andreaf | I will save them for the last topic | 17:55 |
| andreaf | #topic Open Discussion | 17:55 |
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| andreaf | I guess you've all seen the mascots | 17:55 |
| rodrigods | yeah... why QA is a bat, btw? | 17:56 |
| oomichi | haha, I think it is nice | 17:56 |
| oomichi | bat eats bugs | 17:56 |
| rodrigods | because we fight criminals during night? | 17:56 |
| oomichi | :) | 17:56 |
| rodrigods | like batman | 17:56 |
| andreaf | lol | 17:56 |
| rodrigods | ahh oomichi | 17:56 |
| rodrigods | lol | 17:56 |
| andreaf | but we don't eat bugs, we find them :D | 17:57 |
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| oomichi | sometimes we eat, but I don't ;) | 17:57 |
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| andreaf | anyways personally I don't care too much about the mascot, but I guess it makes sense as part of the overall team branding excercise | 17:58 |
| andreaf | it looks nice anyways | 17:58 |
| rodrigods | yeah | 17:58 |
| rodrigods | stickers! | 17:58 |
| andreaf | I want a huge projector for when the gate goes down :D | 17:59 |
| oomichi | andreaf: ++ :) | 17:59 |
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| andreaf | before we go, thanks again oomichi for the great work and leadership in the last two cycles! | 17:59 |
| andreaf | upz it's time | 18:00 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 18:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-02-16-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-02-16-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-02-16-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| dtroyer | OSC meeting!! | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | Bueller? | 19:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | hi | 19:09 |
| ankur-gupta-f4 | dtroyer: | 19:10 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 21:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| viks | hi | 21:00 |
| dtp | o/ | 21:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| efried | o/ | 21:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| ChrisU | hi | 21:01 |
| mriedem | hey everyone, let's get started | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #info there will not be a nova team meeting next tuesday 2/23 due to the PTG | 21:01 |
| mriedem | oops | 21:01 |
| mriedem | s/tuesday/thursday/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #undo | 21:01 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #info there will not be a nova team meeting next tuesday 2/23 due to the PTG | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info there will not be a nova team meeting next Thursday 2/23 due to the PTG | 21:02 |
| mriedem | whew | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | #info RC2 is due today Thursday 2/16 | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link nova ocata rc2 tag patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435092/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | ^ is dependent on 2 changes in the gate, once those merge i'll update the hash and we'll be good to GA | 21:03 |
| dansmith | woot | 21:03 |
| mriedem | let's not all golf clap at once | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #link Ocata retrospective: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ocata-retrospective | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so like in newton, | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | we have an etherpad for a retrospective on ocata | 21:03 |
| mriedem | we'll go over that at the PTG at some point | 21:04 |
| mriedem | any questions on the release? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | no critical bugs | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i've been trying to do some triage this week | 21:05 |
| bauzas | as well | 21:05 |
| mriedem | our numbers are semi normal | 21:05 |
| bauzas | nothing really blocker found | 21:05 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:06 |
| mriedem | the gate has been good this week except for the whole cells v1 job being broken for an entire day thing the other day | 21:06 |
| mriedem | that kind of sucked | 21:06 |
| mriedem | there isn't much news on 3rd party CI, xenserver ci hit some issues but it sounds like they are working through them | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | i've secretly been wondering if vmware ci is running anymore, but haven't done any work to check | 21:07 |
| mriedem | it's just been super quiet | 21:07 |
| bauzas | hence the depends-on ? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | bauzas: ? | 21:07 |
| bauzas | nvm | 21:07 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:07 |
| mriedem | anything for bugs? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | #info Move and/or repropose specs for Pike in the nova-specs repo. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | those are starting to filter back in, | 21:08 |
| mriedem | but i haven't personally been actively reviewing much yet | 21:08 |
| mriedem | a few re-proposals is all | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i expect spec reviews to pick up after the PTG | 21:08 |
| mriedem | and i'll start tracking the burndown rates on those again like in newton | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | #link patch is up for a newton 14.0.4 release https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434928/ | 21:09 |
| mriedem | tonyb: ^ | 21:09 |
| tonyb | mriedem: \o/ I'll review it today | 21:09 |
| mriedem | that's got some goodies in it for placement and cells stuff | 21:09 |
| mriedem | stable/mitaka is basically blocked right now | 21:09 |
| mriedem | because of http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1664793 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | #info stable/mitaka changes are blocked due to bug 1664793 | 21:10 |
| openstack | bug 1664793 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_stamp_pattern timing out waiting for attached device to show up in guest" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664793 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | that's because the ceph job is voting in mitaka | 21:10 |
| mriedem | and the ceph job fails at a decent rate due to that test | 21:10 |
| mriedem | given mitaka isn't getting much for changes it's less of a priority atm | 21:10 |
| mriedem | and fwiw it's not just failing on the ceph job | 21:11 |
| * tonyb was plannign to look at it during/post PTG | 21:11 | |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:11 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:12 | |
| mriedem | there was no cells v2 meeting this week due to conflicts | 21:12 |
| mriedem | dansmith is working on content for the PTG, | 21:12 |
| dansmith | I added some things | 21:12 |
| mriedem | and cells aware support in the API | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: anything for scheduler subteam this week? | 21:12 |
| edleafe | Discussed some changes pending for nested resource providers, and how they might make related patches cleaner. | 21:12 |
| edleafe | Documenting needed functional tests is progressing | 21:13 |
| edleafe | Some pre-PTG discussion, but most is on the etherpad | 21:13 |
| edleafe | short meeting :) | 21:13 |
| mriedem | ok. the nested resource providers spec probably needs to be reproposed | 21:13 |
| mriedem | if not already | 21:13 |
| edleafe | yeah | 21:13 |
| edleafe | I thought jaypipes said that was done, but I could be wrong | 21:13 |
| mriedem | jaypipes is also working on patches for aggregates and shared storage | 21:13 |
| mriedem | also, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | #link etherpad talking about how to design for shared inventory https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/decision-finding-shared-inventory | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: anything for the live migration subteam? | 21:14 |
| mriedem | might not be around | 21:15 |
| mriedem | sdague: were you at the api meeting this week? | 21:15 |
| ketonne | Veritas is proposing a scheduler filter blueprint for Pike. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-filter | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i think the api subteam is mostly prepping for ptg | 21:15 |
| mriedem | ketonne: please hold that for open discussion | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i don't see anyone around for the sriov/pci subteam, | 21:16 |
| mriedem | sfinucan has some topics for the PTG related to SRIOV | 21:16 |
| sdague | mriedem: I was at the meeting, it was mostly about policy improvements | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:17 |
| mriedem | lbragstad wants to talk about all of that at the ptg | 21:17 |
| mriedem | with the keystone people | 21:17 |
| mriedem | at some point we have to clone johnthetubaguy because he's got 3 major efforts going on | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | notes from gibi on the notifications meeting that didn't happen: | 21:18 |
| mriedem | No meeting this week as nobody showed up for the Valentine's day edition :/ | 21:18 |
| mriedem | he also mentions bug 1665263 which was in the ML | 21:18 |
| openstack | bug 1665263 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ocata "instance.delete notification is missing for unscheduled instance" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1665263 | 21:18 |
| mriedem | basically, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | with the move of instance creation from api to conductor, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | we broke when instance.delete notifications happen for an unscheduled instance | 21:18 |
| mriedem | since that happens in conductor now | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #link ML thread on instance.delete notifications bug http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/112259.html | 21:19 |
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| mriedem | i suggested some ideas on where we can do that same thing in conductor, but it starts to feel a lot like whack a mole | 21:19 |
| mriedem | as is a lot of the instance/build request delete code between api and conductor | 21:19 |
| mriedem | dansmith: you might have some ideas there | 21:19 |
| dansmith | yeah I have it on my list to think about | 21:19 |
| mriedem | excellente | 21:20 |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:20 |
| mriedem | #topic PTG planning | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike PTG planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-pike | 21:20 |
| mriedem | i started organizing that this week, | 21:20 |
| mriedem | as noted in the ML, if you have a topic but aren't going to be around wed-friday, please note that in the etherpad so we can get to your item when you're around | 21:20 |
| mriedem | general things i'm taking away from this is there is going to be a lot more cross-project / workgroup stuff happening on monday and tuesday that affect nova items than were probably previously anticipated | 21:21 |
| mriedem | which isn't great since some people aren't coming until wednesday | 21:21 |
| mriedem | but, i'm assuming we just work through stuff monday and tuesday on what we can and those that were there can feed that back into the nova sessions wed-friday | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | things like API capabilities, quotas, etc | 21:22 |
| bauzas | how can we know when/where ? | 21:22 |
| mriedem | we're also going to have some cross-project slots of time with cinder, keystone, ironic and probably neutron on wed, thurs and/or friday | 21:22 |
| mriedem | bauzas: well, | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i guess the #openstack-ptg channel is one | 21:23 |
| bauzas | um | 21:23 |
| mriedem | so if you have your laptop open and are watching it at just the right time, you might see someone broadcast that they are talking about something | 21:23 |
| bauzas | okay, that's an answer :) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | it's a shitty answer | 21:23 |
| mriedem | but yeah i know | 21:23 |
| bauzas | at least, we don't need Slack :p | 21:24 |
| mriedem | for the cross project sessions with other teams we'll have on wed/thurs/fri i'm working with the other PTLs to try and time box some of those into a schedule | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | @here yeah | 21:24 |
| mriedem | also, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | cburgess was crowned the PTG nova dinner party czar last night | 21:25 |
| mriedem | #info cburgess is the official Pike PTG nova dinner party czar, all hail his glory | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | he's in charge of finding a bbq place that seats 20 on thursday night | 21:25 |
| bauzas | I did heard of french cut | 21:25 |
| bauzas | which amazed me | 21:25 |
| mriedem | that's the $100/plate steak place | 21:25 |
| mriedem | which is not to be confused with the group place | 21:26 |
| mriedem | anyway | 21:26 |
| mriedem | anything else for ptg? | 21:26 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:26 | |
| mriedem | there were none in the agenda | 21:26 |
| mriedem | closest thing to stuck anything is probably https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/decision-finding-shared-inventory | 21:26 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:26 | |
| mriedem | ok, who has something? | 21:26 |
| efried | PowerVM driver update | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | efried: go | 21:27 |
| efried | Pike blueprint is approved, and we're still moving forward apace with the code. | 21:27 |
| ketonne | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-filter Veritas HyperScale filter blueprint | 21:27 |
| efried | Turns out I won't be at the PTG, but thorst_afk and adreznec will be there to pester y'all about getting started on those reviews. We expect to have at least the first (big) change set fully ready and +1ed by the nova-powervm core team in time for the PTG. | 21:27 |
| efried | We would like to be aggressive about those reviews early in the cycle, because the #LOC are front-loaded in the earlier change sets. The later change sets will be smaller, thus easier to work as pike velocity increases. | 21:27 |
| efried | Our CI is coming along nicely, though still experiencing some growing pains. We're mostly passing when we expect to. Still working towards being perfect like all the other 3rd-party CIs ;-) | 21:27 |
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| efried | Questions, comments? Else that's it from my end. | 21:27 |
| mriedem | efried: the reviews are going to be tough to expect w/o the passing CI | 21:28 |
| mriedem | one a 1K+ LOC patch | 21:28 |
| mriedem | just fyi | 21:28 |
| efried | Yuh, we're (mostly) passing now. | 21:28 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:28 |
| mriedem | ketonne: ok i see there is a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433855/ | 21:29 |
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| ketonne | Questions on Veritas HyperScale filter? There are no vendor specifc filters AFAIK | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ketonne: as noted earlier, we're mostly not reviewing specs yet, but people are free to look | 21:29 |
| bauzas | I cc'd it | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ketonne: not typically | 21:29 |
| bauzas | I briefly overlooked at the spec and I have concerns but I'll detail them in the change | 21:29 |
| mriedem | i don't have the 40 filters memorized though | 21:29 |
| mriedem | seems like something that would be better served with placement | 21:30 |
| ketonne | Also we have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-libvirt-volume-driver Veritas HyperScale volume driver | 21:30 |
| mriedem | and traits | 21:30 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: ketonne: at least my two major concerns is that it requires a out-of-tree package, and the second one is that it verifies storage which is a bit difficult atm | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ketonne: on the volume driver, that goes into os-brick | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ketonne: do you have veritas support in cinder and os-brick yet? | 21:31 |
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| ketonne | True. There is no precedence for such filter so is there a point to propose this one | 21:31 |
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| mriedem | ketonne: it will be reviewed, i'd like jaypipes to look at it from a placement service perspective | 21:32 |
| mriedem | because it seems this could be served with aggregates and traits in the placement api | 21:32 |
| ketonne | Cinder driver is under review. Re-proposed for Pike | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | ok, the nova side won't go in without a released connector in os-brick | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i'll note the same in the bp in launchpad | 21:33 |
| mriedem | anyone for anything else in open discussion? | 21:33 |
| ketonne | os-brick connector is also proposed for pike | 21:33 |
| mriedem | ok link those into the blueprint whiteboard or description | 21:34 |
| ketonne | Details are in the same blueprint. | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | ok i'm not hearing anything for open discussion | 21:34 |
| mriedem | i'll see some of you next week, safe travels | 21:34 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 21:34:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-02-16-21.00.html | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-02-16-21.00.txt | 21:34 |
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| cburgess | mriedem Oh great... thanks | 21:46 |
| mriedem | ha | 21:46 |
| cburgess | Sorry was in another meeting | 21:47 |
| cburgess | I need to call that place. | 21:47 |
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| kevinbenton | Anyone here to driver? | 22:00 |
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| boden | guess not :) maybe we should just chat next week at the PTG | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | Sounds good to me | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 16 22:03:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | No meeting today. Let's just chat next week at the ptg. Safe travels! | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-02-16-22.03.html | 22:03 |
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