16:00:08 <smcginnis> #startmeeting Cinder
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16:00:13 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'cinder'
16:00:20 <bswartz> .o/
16:00:22 <diablo_rojo_phon> Hello :)
16:00:24 <jungleboyj> o/
16:00:29 <e0ne> hi
16:00:30 <smcginnis> Hey everyone
16:00:31 <breitz> o/
16:00:33 <abishop> o/
16:00:33 <tommylikehu_> hi
16:00:48 <xyang1> hi
16:01:25 <wxy|> hi
16:01:26 <mdovgal> hi
16:01:48 <smcginnis> I'd say it looks like a short one today, but that usually ends up being the ones where we run out of time. ;)
16:01:53 <tbarron> hi
16:02:01 <smcginnis> #topic PTG Planning
16:02:09 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-cinder-ptg-planning PTG topic planning
16:02:15 <scottda> hi
16:02:21 <geguileo> smcginnis: no ping?
16:02:25 <smcginnis> Hotel rooms are still available in the conference block if you have not booked yet.
16:02:34 <smcginnis> geguileo: Doh! I'm off today. :)
16:02:41 <smcginnis> ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu
16:02:47 <smcginnis> mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop
16:02:49 <Swanson> hallo
16:02:50 <smcginnis> There. :)
16:02:51 <erlon> hey
16:02:53 <geguileo> smcginnis: thanks
16:03:16 <guyr-infinidat> Hi
16:03:32 <eharney> hi
16:03:34 <smcginnis> Please add any additional topics you would like to discuss (or have others discuss?) at the PTG.
16:03:35 * geguileo has an async dispatcher and needs pings/reminders for everything
16:03:40 <smcginnis> ;)
16:04:08 <smcginnis> We just have a couple set times for meeting with Nova and potentially for talking policy cross project.
16:04:23 <smcginnis> Otherwise we'll just work our way through the topics as we go.
16:04:38 <smcginnis> That seems to have worked well in past midcycles.
16:04:56 <smcginnis> And keeps it flexible enough that if something comes up that needs our attention we can adapt.
16:05:15 <smcginnis> I will try to timebox some discussions to hopefully avoid a little of the bikeshedding.
16:05:29 <geguileo> If anybody has conflicting agenda should mention it in the etherpad
16:05:35 <smcginnis> geguileo: +1
16:06:07 * jungleboyj could use a new bikeshed though. ;-)
16:06:21 <smcginnis> :)
16:06:46 <smcginnis> Anything else as far as the PTG goes? Questions, comments, observations?
16:07:04 <jungleboyj> Hoping that it just goes like our normal mid-cycles do.
16:07:22 <diablo_rojo_phon> Going to do team photos. I'll be sending an email out later today about it.
16:07:36 <jungleboyj> That is cool.
16:07:36 <smcginnis> Yeah, looking forward to seeing everyone and hanging out.
16:07:38 <scottda> diablo_rojo_phon: What about bingo?
16:08:18 <diablo_rojo_phon> I have the cards from last time and a few updates, but could use some ideas.
16:08:26 <diablo_rojo_phon> If you have some on them to me.
16:08:29 <scottda> diablo_rojo_phon: etherpad?  :)
16:08:32 <diablo_rojo_phon> *pm
16:08:34 <smcginnis> Hah
16:08:41 <diablo_rojo_phon> Lol could do that
16:08:49 <scottda> hah..PM is maybe better
16:08:57 <smcginnis> #topic Ocata release
16:09:10 <jungleboyj> scottda: You don;'t want evidence.
16:09:15 <smcginnis> Just a reminder that final RC is tomorrow. Or tonight if things look good.
16:09:35 <smcginnis> SO if there is anything important to get in, backport to stable/ocata ASAP and let me know.
16:09:50 <smcginnis> Probably critical only at this point.
16:10:05 <geguileo> smcginnis: I believe there are a couple of patches that need to go in there
16:10:20 <smcginnis> geguileo: OK, can you send me links? I'll take a look.
16:10:28 <geguileo> smcginnis: One has 2 +2 and +W is from Erlon, but it's in merge conflict now
16:10:35 <jungleboyj> geguileo:  Me too please.
16:10:37 <geguileo> And I don't remember the other one
16:10:56 <smcginnis> geguileo: In the stable/ocata branch?
16:10:57 <erlon> geguileo: smcginnis : yeah, ill rebase that later on
16:11:16 <geguileo> smcginnis: No, in master (I think)
16:11:39 <smcginnis> geguileo: Hmm. OK, better get that rebased quick if we want to have time to still get it back to ocata.
16:12:00 <geguileo> smcginnis: jungleboyj https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427348/
16:12:43 <smcginnis> Yeah, we should probably get that one in. Hopefully the gate cooperates.
16:12:49 <e0ne> looks like a  good candidate for ocata
16:12:58 <jungleboyj> Yeah, that looks like a good one.
16:13:02 <jungleboyj> Jinx.
16:13:03 <diablo_rojo_phon> Is the reviews etherpad up-to-date?
16:13:21 <smcginnis> diablo_rojo_phon: I started making updates there to switch gears over to Pike.
16:13:29 <smcginnis> It can probably use some more attention.
16:13:31 <mdovgal> i wrote the file that need for unit-tests changes from this patch
16:13:51 <diablo_rojo_phon> Okay, just wondered so we have somewhere to look for these final items.
16:13:52 <smcginnis> I figured we will have more updates for it at/after the PTG.
16:14:01 <geguileo> erlon: what about this one?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422733/
16:14:07 <diablo_rojo_phon> smcginnis: I'm sure we will :)
16:14:09 <geguileo> I think that's also a nasty one we would want fixed
16:14:37 <erlon> geguileo: that should be quick t do as well
16:14:38 <smcginnis> geguileo: +1
16:15:07 <geguileo> erlon: ping me when you've done it, please
16:15:07 <jungleboyj> erlon: Can you get those rebased soon?
16:15:21 <erlon> geguileo: there are 4 patches in the chain, sure, Ill to that later today
16:15:31 <geguileo> erlon: thanks
16:15:57 <smcginnis> erlon: Later as in in about 5 minutes from now?
16:15:59 <smcginnis> :P
16:16:05 <geguileo> lol
16:16:20 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: That was subtle.
16:16:30 <smcginnis> hehe
16:16:37 <erlon> smcginnis: :p, 5 minutes from the end of the day ?:P
16:17:22 <smcginnis> I guess Cinder will just be the last one out the door. But bswartz might wait longer again. :P
16:18:05 <smcginnis> #topic Open discussion
16:18:16 <scottda> I wanted to talk about Tempest tests.....
16:18:26 <scottda> mtreinish: pinged me about Cinder V1 tests
16:18:37 <bswartz> :-/
16:18:48 <scottda> and that we should look at running them in a separate Cinder job, not necessarily on every patch.
16:18:53 <jordanP> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434354/
16:19:04 <smcginnis> scottda: That sounds good to me.
16:19:12 <smcginnis> scottda: We've had the deprecated for a long time now.
16:19:36 <scottda> smcginnis: Yup. So, anyone looking for something to do, we've some work there.
16:19:37 <smcginnis> And even though we've said we can't get rid of it, I hate to see all those gate resources used to test something we don't care about.
16:19:59 <diablo_rojo_phon> smcginnis +1
16:20:03 <scottda> I'll put something on the PTG agenda to make sure we follow through. Maybe under the existing test topic.
16:20:44 * diablo_rojo_phon preemptively fills in the bingo space about redefining each type of test.
16:20:45 <smcginnis> scottda: That will at least spread awareness then.
16:21:06 <breitz> scottda, I've got some cycles I could provide for that.
16:21:14 <mtreinish> scottda: +1, that was what jordanP was getting at in his patch
16:21:18 <e0ne> it looks an odd to have some supported but deprecated an not-tested API
16:21:29 <mtreinish> s/scottda/smcginnis
16:21:33 <mtreinish> sigh, tab complete fail
16:21:38 <smcginnis> mtreinish: +1 :)
16:21:56 <e0ne> sooner or later, API v1 will be broken w/o testing
16:21:57 <smcginnis> e0ne: I do want to reraise the idea of actually removing that at some point.
16:22:18 <e0ne> smcginnis: I'm ready to remove it right now :)
16:22:26 <smcginnis> e0ne: And we can still test it. Just not on every patch.
16:22:29 <smcginnis> e0ne: :)
16:22:34 <mdovgal> e0ne, :D
16:22:37 <scottda> Or refactoring to have inheritance, since v1 is just a subset of v2 for the most part
16:23:33 <smcginnis> scottda: Good point. And since v2 is also static, having it inherited where we can would help reduce a lot of code and hopefully duplication of test coverage.
16:23:35 <scottda> and v3 a superset of v2
16:23:59 <e0ne> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1627921
16:23:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1627921 in Cinder "clean up API versions" [Medium,Confirmed]
16:24:34 <jungleboyj> smcginnis: ++
16:24:46 <smcginnis> Another opportunity for someone looking for some work to pick up.
16:24:50 <e0ne> if something could be broken, it will be broken
16:25:46 <mtreinish> e0ne: yeah, that's what tends to happen. But we can be a bit smarter are more targetted about when and where we test v1
16:25:47 <smcginnis> True words
16:26:04 <smcginnis> mtreinish: We could definitely test smarter.
16:26:18 <e0ne> mtreinish: it's a good idea
16:26:26 <smcginnis> OK, anything else to discuss today?
16:26:43 <smcginnis> Or everyone saving up for the PTG next week.
16:26:50 <jungleboyj> Any plans for a Cinder get together at the PTG?
16:26:57 <jgriffith> OH, that's next week?
16:27:07 <jgriffith> I thought it was the week after... dang it
16:27:08 <smcginnis> jgriffith: :)
16:27:10 <diablo_rojo_phon> smcginnis: scottda eharney got your DND characters ready? ;)
16:27:13 <sivn_> have you discussed about the new cinder drivers?
16:27:17 <eharney> :)
16:27:32 <smcginnis> sivn_: Was there another topic?
16:27:38 <diablo_rojo_phon> eharney: I'll take that as a yes ;)
16:28:03 <smcginnis> jungleboyj: I think we should try to get together. Tuesday night?
16:28:18 <dulek> Tuesday is official event I think?
16:28:25 <sivn_> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409914/
16:28:27 <jungleboyj> There is an official event?
16:28:30 <sivn_> not sure about the topic
16:28:31 <diablo_rojo_phon> There's a happy hour but we can do dinner after
16:29:02 <smcginnis> Socializer is until 7. We could meet at 7:30 somewhere near by.
16:29:05 * dulek will be sleeping after 7 PM. ;)
16:29:20 <diablo_rojo_phon> dulek: I'm buying you redbull
16:29:22 <sivn_> what is the appropriate time for that please? to discuss about new cinder driver
16:29:33 <dulek> diablo_rojo_phon: Okay, I'll try. :)
16:29:36 <smcginnis> dulek: Oh, good point. Might be too soon for those travelling farther to have a late nigth.
16:29:55 <smcginnis> sivn_: Is there something that needs to be discussed there? I'm missing something.
16:30:10 <smcginnis> dulek: What about Wednesday nigth?
16:30:11 <dulek> smcginnis: I was just kidding, don't mind me.
16:30:12 <smcginnis> night
16:30:18 <smcginnis> dulek: Hah, OK.
16:30:22 <sivn_> its pending code review
16:30:34 <diablo_rojo_phon> sivn_: Since we are close enough to Pike you can post the patch to start getting reviews.
16:30:38 <smcginnis> sivn_: OK. Was there something to discuss?
16:30:55 <diablo_rojo_phon> sivn_: got a link? We can add it to the reviews etherpad so it gets some eyes.
16:31:04 <sivn_> I have already posted the path, want to get it reviewed
16:31:10 <jungleboyj> Link is above.
16:31:36 <smcginnis> So should we target Tuesday night for a gathering?
16:31:36 <xyang1> diablo_rojo_phon: do we know when is pike-1 yet?
16:31:46 <smcginnis> xyang1: They are finalizing the schedule.
16:31:51 <xyang1> ok
16:31:53 <smcginnis> Should be fairly set at this point.
16:31:53 <diablo_rojo_phon> The proposed schedule was sent to the ml yesterday I beliwve
16:31:53 <jungleboyj> xyang1: They just published a proposed schedule.
16:32:00 <jungleboyj> It was.
16:32:04 <diablo_rojo_phon> Idk if the patch has been merged yet.
16:32:05 <smcginnis> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425254/
16:32:05 <xyang1> jungleboyj: where?
16:32:15 <Swanson> Is O.1 short cycle, too?
16:32:16 <jungleboyj> ^^
16:32:24 <smcginnis> Swanson: No, back to normalish.
16:32:40 * jungleboyj cheers!
16:32:54 <smcginnis> xyang1: Looks like P-1 will likely be the week of April 10.
16:33:13 <xyang1> ok, thanks
16:33:53 <dulek> April… I'll need to think of a patch for April Fools…
16:34:03 <smcginnis> OK, we can pull together a gathering next week in the channel when we see how things end up.
16:34:06 <smcginnis> dulek: ;)
16:34:09 <diablo_rojo_phon> dulek: +1 cheesecake v3
16:34:11 <smcginnis> Anything else?
16:34:27 <jungleboyj> dulek: Steak V1
16:35:00 <diablo_rojo_phon> jungleboyj: I thought scottda requested filet mignon?
16:35:08 <smcginnis> And I'll take that as a sign we've gone past the point of being productive. Thanks everyone.
16:35:13 <scottda> That or pizza
16:35:30 <smcginnis> #endmeeting