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| ddeja | #startmeeting HA | 09:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 09:02:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ddeja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: HA)" | 09:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:02 |
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| ddeja | Hi all | 09:02 |
| aspiers | o/ | 09:02 |
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| * aspiers lurks | 09:02 | |
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| aspiers | sorry that I have been pulled away into another meeting, but I will try to multi-task | 09:03 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: don't worry. It looks like there's only two of us | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | ok | 09:04 |
| aspiers | seems that I managed to complete the action item from last week :-D | 09:04 |
| ddeja | which was? | 09:04 |
| aspiers | #info HA guide now contains information on compute node HA http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/instance-ha.html | 09:05 |
| ddeja | oh, OK | 09:05 |
| aspiers | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-09-05-09.02.html | 09:05 |
| aspiers | still not much progress on specs though :-( I will focus on that today | 09:05 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: I'm focused right now on some issues in mistral, trying to fix as much as possible before the release | 09:06 |
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| aspiers | nice | 09:07 |
| ddeja | after RC-2 I'll have time for specs, so they would be ready for Barcelona summit | 09:07 |
| aspiers | oh great! | 09:07 |
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| aspiers | hopefully samP and I can make a lot of progress on specs soon | 09:07 |
| aspiers | when is RC-2? | 09:07 |
| ddeja | this Friday I guess | 09:07 |
| aspiers | ok cool | 09:07 |
| aspiers | I think it's really important that we have most of the specs ready for Barcelona | 09:08 |
| aspiers | and the cross-project spec | 09:08 |
| ddeja | final RC is week is Sep 26-30 | 09:08 |
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| ddeja | but I hope to have everything working nice and smooth till Friday in Mistral, so next week I can focus on specs | 09:09 |
| aspiers | excellent | 09:10 |
| aspiers | I still don't have my travel budget to Barcelona confirmed, but hopefully later today | 09:10 |
| ddeja | me too | 09:12 |
| ddeja | aspiers: I guess we can end? | 09:13 |
| aspiers | I guess so | 09:14 |
| ddeja | Ok, thanks for the update :) | 09:14 |
| ddeja | hope next week there would be more people | 09:14 |
| ddeja | bye | 09:15 |
| ddeja | #endmeeting | 09:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 09:15:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-09-19-09.02.html | 09:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-09-19-09.02.txt | 09:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-09-19-09.02.log.html | 09:15 |
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| aspiers | thanks, bye! | 09:20 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 15:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
| anteaya | I'm on time for a change | 15:00 |
| anteaya | how unusual | 15:00 |
| lennyb | hey | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hey lennyb | 15:00 |
| anteaya | how are you? | 15:00 |
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| lennyb | pretty ok :). how are you? | 15:01 |
| anteaya | good thank you | 15:01 |
| anteaya | weather is still warm here | 15:01 |
| anteaya | that makes me happy | 15:01 |
| anteaya | do you have anything you would like to talk about today lennyb? | 15:01 |
| lennyb | not really | 15:02 |
| anteaya | me either | 15:02 |
| anteaya | let's see if anyone else happens by with something they would like to chat about | 15:02 |
| anteaya | public service announcement, remember to vote this week | 15:02 |
| lennyb | sure | 15:03 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103942.html | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | also check out firehose | 15:06 |
| anteaya | #link firehose http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-September/004733.html | 15:06 |
| anteaya | so far it has streamed output from gerrit and launchpad | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | other services to be added according to the spec linked in the email | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | also here | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | #link firehose spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/firehose.html | 15:07 |
| asselin_ | i'm here and in another meeting | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | asselin_: thanks for being here | 15:07 |
| anteaya | asselin_: anything you want to discuss today? | 15:08 |
| asselin_ | anteaya, no | 15:08 |
| anteaya | asselin_: thank you | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | okay so we don't seem to have any takers on finding something to discuss | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | any objections to me closing the meeting? | 15:10 |
| lennyb | c u next week | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | thanks lennyb | 15:11 |
| anteaya | as always thanks to everyone for attending and participating | 15:11 |
| anteaya | see you all next week | 15:11 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 15:11:59 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-09-19-15.00.html | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-09-19-15.00.txt | 15:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-09-19-15.00.log.html | 15:12 |
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| ddeja | #startmeeting mistral | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 16:05:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ddeja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 16:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:05 |
| ddeja | hello | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | I was finally able to join | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | sorry | 16:06 |
| ddeja | oh, cool | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: still here? | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: hi hi ) | 16:06 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: I've just read your mail and I've just started the meeting | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok, good | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: please keep in mind that you'll have to finish it | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | because you started it | 16:07 |
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| mgershen | hi | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | so, let's sync up quickly | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: hi! | 16:08 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: yes, I know. Not a first time chairing ;) | 16:08 |
| ddeja | #topic Review action items | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 16:08 | |
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| rakhmerov | ok :) | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | thanks a lot | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | you saved my ... | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: I'm not sure if you have any AIs | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | we skipped last 2 meetings I guess | 16:09 |
| ddeja | oh, ok | 16:09 |
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| d0ugal | Yeah, probably not because of that | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:09 |
| ddeja | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 16:09 | |
| rakhmerov | sorry for that, I've been extremely busy last couple of months, and I've been travelling for 2 weeks by now | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: No problem, maybe we should move the meeting to a time that is easier for you? but that is a different discussion :) | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, we were supposed to do that long time ago :) | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | it's not convenient for many people | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | it's my debt | 16:11 |
| d0ugal | :) | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | my status: still working on stability and performance improvements, last week made some great changes, they made Mistral work much faster on large workflows | 16:11 |
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| mgershen | status: I have some code on review in rally (yes still...), but internal things take most my time. | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | now optimizing processing of workflow context | 16:12 |
| d0ugal | TripleO integration is taking most of my time, so not much to report (other than the bug I added to the agenda :) ) | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: can you please add us as reviewers? | 16:12 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: or just link it? | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok, this is the main thing we probably need to discuss today | 16:13 |
| ddeja | my status: mostly testing, found one bug and a root cause for another; despite that a little bit of reviews (but to little!) | 16:13 |
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| mgershen | sure, I'll find the link | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:13 |
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| mgershen | I have changes to do, hopfully I will have time soon... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358352 | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | so, just before we move forward | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | please keep in mind that RC1 is released | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | and master is now open for developing new features | 16:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: There is no newton branch yet | 16:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: so I don't think master should be open? | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | from now on we'll be backporting only bug fixes into stable/newton | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: it should be created, I saw an email from Doug | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | let me check | 16:15 |
| d0ugal | I asked in #openstack-release earlier, they said it should be done today | 16:15 |
| d0ugal | but I still can't see it | 16:15 |
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| ddeja | rakhmerov: yup, there is no newton/stable branch | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, true | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | yes, hm.. it's kinda weird | 16:16 |
| d0ugal | I agree :) | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | maybe something was broken in their toolkit | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | for making releases | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok, anyway | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: let's move on? | 16:16 |
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| ddeja | rakhmerov: yup | 16:17 |
| ddeja | #topic (d0ugal) MessagingTimeout when executing mistral actions https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1624284 | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "(d0ugal) MessagingTimeout when executing mistral actions https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1624284 (Meeting topic: mistral)" | 16:17 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624284 in Mistral "MessagingTimeout when executing mistral actions" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dawid Deja (dawid-deja-0) | 16:18 |
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| * rakhmerov Renat is reading again.. | 16:18 | |
| d0ugal | Okays, so for anyone unfamiliar, the last comment on that bug from ddeja is a good summary | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: does it help if engine and executor are running in separate processes? | 16:19 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: no | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | just for my info | 16:20 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: I have such configuration on my devstack | 16:20 |
| ddeja | and it doesn't matter | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I'm reading these 4 steps that you pointed out | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | and I'm not sure that I understand the problem on 100% | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | so, again | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | engine sends a request to run "std.sleep" | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | executor sleeps for 30 sec | 16:21 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: yes, bu the request is a workfow (it's important) | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | which one? | 16:22 |
| ddeja | the first one | 16:22 |
| ddeja | std.sleep is an action in workflow | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | reading again... | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | I don't understand #4 | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | "Executor sends *sync* request: I woke up!" | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: can you explain it? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | what did you mean by "I woke up!"? | 16:24 |
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| ddeja | rakhmerov: Oh, that can be misleading | 16:24 |
| ddeja | it is just sending the action results | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | for run-action ? | 16:25 |
| ddeja | no | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, I got it | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | but for what? | 16:25 |
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| ddeja | it is for action run as a task t1 from 'sleep' workflow | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | and why do we have a deadlock? | 16:26 |
| ddeja | so | 16:26 |
| ddeja | engine send request to executor 'run action std.sleep'. Since this action is a part of workflow, the request is async | 16:26 |
| ddeja | which means, that we send a message via RPC and move on | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | on engine side | 16:27 |
| ddeja | o engine side, nothing is happening right now. On executor site, it goes to sleep (which simulates any long running task) | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:28 |
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| ddeja | while the executor is doing 'long running task' API sends eninge another request, to run action std.noop | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:28 |
| ddeja | engine accpets the request, and since this is a 'run-action', not a part of workflow, it sends a request to executor in sync manner | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:29 |
| ddeja | but executor is doing it previous job | 16:29 |
| ddeja | so, engine waits | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:29 |
| ddeja | after some time, executor ends it first job | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | so essentially it's not a real deadlock | 16:29 |
| ddeja | and want to send result back to engine | 16:29 |
| ddeja | and it do it in sync manner | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | it's just run-action fails with timeout, right? | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, no | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's a real deadlock | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | now I see | 16:30 |
| ddeja | so it waits for engine to reply for message but in the same time, engine is waiting for executor to anwser to its message | 16:30 |
| ddeja | yup | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | yes, gotcha | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | it can't even send a result for 'sleep' | 16:30 |
| ddeja | yes | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | because RPC subsystem is busy | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | so | 16:31 |
| ddeja | well, it send it at least, becuse the first message timesout, and engine starts to operate again | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | what about configuring RPC server differently for engine end executor? | 16:31 |
| ddeja | it should work | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | will it help if executor won't be waiting to send results | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | it's one thing that we can do | 16:32 |
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| d0ugal | Configuting them differently where? | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | when we are initializing them | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | in launch.py | 16:33 |
| ddeja | another thing - in mistral there is a lot of places where we use sync calls, but we are not doing anything with the results | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: yes, right, we need to fix that too | 16:33 |
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| ddeja | it would improve performance | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | I hope that pretty soon we'll get it back to 'eventlet' for engine too once I solve that stupid problem with green threads | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | I'll be working on it later this week | 16:34 |
| ddeja | So, we want to change the executor so it uses eventlet? | 16:34 |
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| ddeja | or we want to use it async for returning messages? | 16:35 |
| ddeja | returning results* | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | we need to do both | 16:35 |
| ddeja | OK | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | starting with the simplest and more obvious change | 16:35 |
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| d0ugal | which one is that? :) | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | it seems like that enabling 'eventlet' for executor should be pretty simple | 16:36 |
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| d0ugal | Right | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | we just need to add one more parameter into the function that creates an RPC server for us and pass a different value when initializing engine and executor in launch.py | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: sounds about right? | 16:36 |
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| d0ugal | Sounds easy. | 16:37 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: yup. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ok :) | 16:38 |
| d0ugal | I'd be happy to help in any way I can. | 16:38 |
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| ddeja | but it would make kombu driver still broken | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, that's what I thought too | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | but, you know, for Kombu we can just ignore this parameter for now | 16:38 |
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| ddeja | no, that is not a problem | 16:38 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: If you plan to land performance fixes, can we swift back to eventlet and take the performance hit for a week or so? | 16:38 |
| ddeja | a problem is that this deadlock bug will still be happening if one is using the kombu driver instead of oslo | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | we can give it some abstract name like 'rpc_processing_method' and ignore it for Kombu | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: true, but we'll have time to fix it soon | 16:39 |
| ddeja | I'll check tommorow if it is safe to change from sync to async in executor | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: yes, please take it if you can | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: btw, awesome job on investigating this | 16:40 |
| d0ugal | ++ | 16:40 |
| ddeja | #action ddeja will check if it is safe to change from sync to async in default executor while returning action results | 16:40 |
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| ddeja | thanks :) | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: what did you mean by "performance hit"? :) | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, didn't get your question | 16:41 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: don't worry, I think the plan you have sounds good | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, the performance fixes I made last week are in RC1 already | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | they are merged | 16:42 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I just got a bit confused with the switch from eventlet to blocking and then you said you want to go back to eventlet? | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | as far as what I'm working on, they will be finished tomorrow (one test is failing) | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, but only for executor | 16:42 |
| d0ugal | I see, thanks. | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | by design, it's safe to use 'eventlet' for executor | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | but not safe for engine (problem with green threads) | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: at least ddeja and I believe so :) | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | hopefully we're right | 16:43 |
| d0ugal | haha, I trust you :) | 16:43 |
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| d0ugal | Hopefully I can find time to learn this part of Mistral more soon. | 16:43 |
| rbrady | +1 | 16:44 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: sure, it's pretty complicated but I can explain everything | 16:44 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: it should be totaly safe as long as actions do not try to communicate with DB | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | ok, seems like we have a plan | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | let's move on | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | any other topics? | 16:45 |
| ddeja | #topic Open discussion | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | btw, just FYI | 16:46 |
| rbrady | ddeja: actions not communicate with db? directly or calling something that does communicate with db? e.g. fetching mistral environment | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | what we did last week makes mistral ~5 times faster | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:46 |
| ddeja | rbrady: directly | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | I found some huge huge problems that I was able to remove | 16:46 |
| rbrady | ddeja: ack. thanks | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady: yeah, the problem occurs only when we use green threads (eventlet's) and they do some blocking external calls | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | potentially blocking | 16:47 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Nice! | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | like acquiring a lock in DB | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | yeah :) | 16:47 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Do you have any benchmarks you can share? It would be a good thinkg to show off for Newton. | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: in this case green threads dispatches doesn't switch threads as expected (although my understanding was different before I got this problem) | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: well, I can provide some numbers, yes | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | for some test workflows that I use | 16:49 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: That would be cool, but not urgent at all :) | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | ok ) | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:50 |
| d0ugal | Okay, sorry but I need to leave a bit early | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | me too! | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady, mgershen, ddeja: how about you? | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ok to close the meeting? | 16:50 |
| rbrady | ok for me | 16:50 |
| d0ugal | Thanks rakhmerov and ddeja for your discussion, that was very useful and please let me know if I can help at all. | 16:50 |
| ddeja | yes | 16:50 |
| mgershen | sure | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: sure | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | thanks everyone | 16:50 |
| ddeja | ok, thanks you all and see you next week | 16:51 |
| rbrady | bye | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: thanks twice! For investigation and for driving the meeting :) | 16:51 |
| mgershen | bye | 16:51 |
| d0ugal | Bye :) | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | see ya | 16:51 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: no problem, bye | 16:51 |
| ddeja | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 16:51:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-09-19-16.05.html | 16:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-09-19-16.05.txt | 16:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-09-19-16.05.log.html | 16:51 |
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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 17:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| matjazp | hey all | 17:01 |
| matjazp | roll call | 17:01 |
| ildikov | o/ | 17:01 |
| ianychoi | Hello matjazp and ildikov ! | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | hi ildikov ianychoi | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | #link Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | #topic Review of action items from the previous meeting | 17:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 17:02 |
| matjazp | hey diablo_rojo | 17:02 |
| ianychoi | Hello diablo_rojo ! | 17:02 |
| matjazp | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-09-12-17.00.html | 17:02 |
| diablo_rojo | On my laptop for now, but I will be switching to my phone at some point. | 17:03 |
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| ianychoi | Yes.. oops my actions... for launchpad... | 17:03 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: did you managed to create lounchpad sandbox project? | 17:03 |
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| matjazp | np | 17:04 |
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| ianychoi | I managed to create it but there is also launchpad sandbox | 17:04 |
| ianychoi | #link https://qastaging.launchpad.net/ | 17:04 |
| matjazp | #action ianychoi creates openstack-dev-sandbox launchpad project | 17:04 |
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| ianychoi | It is copied from launchpad as daily or weekly (I forgot exactly but anyway) | 17:04 |
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| ianychoi | So I am not currently sure whether it is good to create launchpad sandbox, since there is already qastaging.launchpad.net | 17:05 |
| matjazp | #undo | 17:05 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7f23bd8a2850> | 17:05 |
| matjazp | what is this qastaging? | 17:05 |
| ianychoi | I think the purpose is different... but I would like to listen to opinions from you :) | 17:05 |
| ildikov | I think it would be better to have one for OpenStack | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | +1 | 17:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Didn't know where was qastaging.launchpad, but I would think that is for something different than our purposes. | 17:06 |
| ildikov | so that people are completely lost in the void | 17:06 |
| matjazp | as similar to other official projects as possible | 17:06 |
| ianychoi | I think the main purpose of qastaging.launchpad.net is to test launchpad itself. | 17:07 |
| matjazp | I'll just add the action again | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | #action ianychoi creates openstack-dev-sandbox launchpad project | 17:07 |
| ianychoi | So all agree that creating openstack-dev-sandbox is helpful? | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | yes | 17:07 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream training | 17:08 |
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| ianychoi | ildikov and diablo_rojo , thoughts? | 17:08 |
| matjazp | oh... I was too quick :( | 17:08 |
| ianychoi | That's fine :) | 17:08 |
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| ianychoi | And... | 17:08 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367005/ | 17:09 |
| diablo_rojo | I can get all the comments on my patches addressed today | 17:09 |
| matjazp | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements | 17:09 |
| matjazp | #info Upstream training virtual sprint finished | 17:09 |
| ianychoi | Actually AFAIK Marton Kiss contributes openstack-infra a lot and he will be one of leaders in upcoming upstream training. | 17:09 |
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| ianychoi | So, ildikov, could you write your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367005/ ? | 17:09 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi: yeap, on my TODO list to catch up on reviewing | 17:10 |
| ianychoi | Then I will discuss with openstack-infra guys for this patch to be merged :) | 17:10 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I stopped with the Big tent one | 17:10 |
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| matjazp | we can go and take a look at the review queue | 17:11 |
| ianychoi | Okay... thanks all. Yep Let's focus on upstream training then.. | 17:11 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I actually thought that after the first +2 it will be an easy to get landed patch :) | 17:11 |
| matjazp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides+status:open,n,z | 17:11 |
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| matjazp | ildikov: I guess this is low priority | 17:12 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, okay thanks for sharing your thoughts! | 17:12 |
| ildikov | matjazp: which one do you mean the ircbot? | 17:12 |
| matjazp | Patch #367005 | 17:12 |
| matjazp | for infra guys | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | we just need to merge this before training ;) | 17:13 |
| ianychoi | AFAIK yolanda is one of best guys in infra but they are not familiar with detail contexts | 17:13 |
| ildikov | matjazp: yeap, we can jump on infra and ask some time before the training, it should be good to go I think | 17:14 |
| ianychoi | This is why I invited Marton as a reviewer. Infra guys usually merge with more input into comments. | 17:14 |
| ildikov | I would like to get more eyes and hands on the content for now :) | 17:14 |
| matjazp | ildikov: your patch is getting quite big | 17:14 |
| ianychoi | I think ildikov 's comments would facilitate the merge of #367005 | 17:15 |
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| matjazp | talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366893/ | 17:15 |
| ianychoi | Yes quite big... but it can be one 'big' thought.. :) | 17:15 |
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| ianychoi | I initially proposed to divide it into three separated patches | 17:16 |
| ildikov | matjazp: that's the end of it, I will add presenter notes in a follow up one | 17:16 |
| ianychoi | For #366893, I am waiting for presenter notes :) | 17:17 |
| matjazp | ildikov: yes I think we can merge it | 17:17 |
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| matjazp | ildikov: we can update and polish it later | 17:17 |
| matjazp | ildikov: it is easier to review small patches | 17:17 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: you mean we cannot merge the patch without having the follow up up and polished as well? | 17:17 |
| matjazp | ildikov: I would prefer to merge it ASAP and polish it later | 17:18 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, according to your comments, I understood that you will add 'notes' on this patch. | 17:18 |
| ildikov | matjazp: yeap, but merge conflicts and rebasing is very inconvenient, and with the slide format it can still be handled from review perspective I think | 17:18 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: +1 | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | ildikov: true, hence we need to make smaller patches | 17:18 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi: no, I will do that as a follow up patch, sorry if i wasn't clear :( | 17:18 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: for the existing material update that will be easier as I don't need to update the index.rst file | 17:19 |
| ianychoi | Aha.. ildikov I see. So I waited for your another patchset.. | 17:19 |
| matjazp | so do we all agree? merge as soon it is in usable form and polish it later? | 17:19 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Yes | 17:19 |
| ianychoi | For 366893, yep I will +2 now | 17:19 |
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| matjazp | that will enable us with a quicker turnaround and minimise rebasing | 17:20 |
| matjazp | rebasing big patches sucks | 17:20 |
| ianychoi | Let's check.. I pressed 'rebase' button | 17:20 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: +1, I didn't make a patch chain for exactly that reason | 17:21 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: for the intro rebasing should be working, as it's completely new content | 17:22 |
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| ianychoi | Yep.. we may need more tight communication :) | 17:22 |
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| matjazp | ok, I'll +2 it when rebasing is finished, so we can merge and ildikov will polish the text with later patches, ok? | 17:23 |
| matjazp | moving on to next review.. | 17:23 |
| ianychoi | Yep | 17:23 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370262/ | 17:24 |
| ildikov | matjazp: great, thanks! | 17:24 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, your opinion on this commit? | 17:24 |
| ianychoi | I have written several comments and it seems that alls were well addressed | 17:25 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: matjazp I started to review it, I would order/articulate things on a few slides in a bit different way, but haven't checked the latest version fully yet | 17:25 |
| matjazp | ildikov: same here, I'm looking at it now | 17:26 |
| ianychoi | If you have time, ildikov, could you see briefly? | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | changes are not scattered around, but it is a large reworking of this chapter | 17:26 |
| ianychoi | For introduction, ildikov 's opinion is important :) | 17:26 |
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| ildikov | I will try to finish my comments today before jumping on the plane | 17:27 |
| ianychoi | I agree.. oh, image file name is the format I previously suggested, which is now wrong: 04-01-big-tent-and-core-services.png -> big-tent-and-core-services.png | 17:27 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I also got in trouble with numbering the sections | 17:27 |
| ianychoi | Yep.. then, let's have more time for review #370262 | 17:27 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: we might consider removing numbering completely at some point | 17:28 |
| matjazp | yup I agree, lets do one more round of reviews | 17:28 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, what I am currently saying is for image file names, not section numbers.. but I agree that we need to re-arrange section numbers. | 17:28 |
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| ianychoi | Currently, my general suggestion is to use 01~10 for introduction, 11~20 for workflows and 21~30 for contribution process | 17:29 |
| * matjazp this is WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370391/ | 17:29 | |
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| ianychoi | diablo_rojo, what is your deliverable plan for this patch? Might it would take too long for completion..? | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | this patch still has -1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368889/ | 17:31 |
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| ildikov | I didn't add too many things to diablo_rojo_phon's patches | 17:31 |
| matjazp | same as this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366255/ | 17:31 |
| ildikov | overall they looked good to me, I just like nitpicking... :) | 17:31 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | The comments that are out there right now will get addressed today. | 17:32 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I see no reason why all of the ones I have out there right now couldn't get merged by Friday even. | 17:32 |
| matjazp | ildikov: as a general rule, I would prefer to nitpick in later patches ;) | 17:32 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | After those get merged, I will start a new patch to add exercises to module 19 | 17:32 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I can message all of you when I get those patches up. | 17:33 |
| matjazp | diablo_rojo_phon: excellent.. just please make one patch for each exercise, so we can review quickly | 17:33 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Can do. | 17:33 |
| ianychoi | I see, thank you, diablo_rojo_phon | 17:33 |
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| * matjazp likes overall progress :) | 17:34 | |
| ianychoi | And I would like to suggest such as hangout | 17:34 |
| ianychoi | for kind explanation on two Etherpads | 17:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Feel free to go and make as many comments right now and when I come back from lunch I will address everything by the end of day. | 17:34 |
| matjazp | we're on the roll here, nice work everyone | 17:34 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I'm totally with you, I will do a better job with resist, when smth is really a nitpick | 17:34 |
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| ianychoi | Frankly speaking, now I am getting more busy as I18n role, but for me now it is difficult to submit a commit to upstream training because I am not fully familiar with two Etherpads.. | 17:35 |
| ildikov | things look good here, thanks everyone for all the work so far!!! :) | 17:35 |
| ildikov | I plan to jump on the release cycle slides as a next step | 17:35 |
| ianychoi | +1, ildikov :) | 17:35 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I can create a Doodle poll and we can do an alignment Hangout | 17:36 |
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| ianychoi | ildikov, nice :) | 17:36 |
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| ianychoi | matjazp, just FYI: +1 Jenkins for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366893/ | 17:37 |
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| ianychoi | And ildikov, could you ask current status on virtual environment to kmARC? | 17:38 |
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| ianychoi | #action ildikov will ask current status on virtual environment to kmARC | 17:39 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: sure, will do | 17:40 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, thank you! | 17:40 |
| matjazp | ok https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366893/ is merging as we speak | 17:40 |
| ildikov | I will also create the Doodle poll and we can have a quick chat | 17:40 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: what time zone are you in? | 17:41 |
| ianychoi | #action ildikov will also create the Doodle poll and we can have a quick chat | 17:41 |
| ildikov | I know the others mostly, soI thought to come up with exact proposals hoping for having a quick decision | 17:41 |
| matjazp | ildikov: I'm in Slovenia, so if you're at home, same as you | 17:42 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: great, that sounds good | 17:43 |
| ildikov | will do the Doodle poll right after the meeting then | 17:43 |
| matjazp | ok, did we miss something for Upstream? | 17:44 |
| matjazp | looking at agenda | 17:44 |
| matjazp | did we discussed the use of ".. code-block:: console" already? | 17:45 |
| matjazp | oh.. we did | 17:45 |
| matjazp | last meeting, so this is an old entry from last week | 17:45 |
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| matjazp | can we move on? | 17:46 |
| ianychoi | Then... matjazp , will you attend to Barcelona upstream training? | 17:46 |
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| matjazp | #topic aob | 17:47 |
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| matjazp | ianychoi: I still don't know if I'll be there at all | 17:47 |
| ianychoi | Because of my own business, I cannot go there for upstream training days on Barcelona.. | 17:47 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: It's always a last minute thing for me | 17:47 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: too bad | 17:48 |
| ianychoi | But I will stay just on Friday.. | 17:48 |
| ildikov | I asked for longer time slots for the training, so we should have 3 hours more | 17:48 |
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| ildikov | I will check this week whether the schedule got updated already or not | 17:48 |
| ianychoi | So really hope to see all you on Friday... :) | 17:48 |
| matjazp | ianychoi: so you'll be at the Summit, just not at the Upstream training? | 17:48 |
| ildikov | It would also be great to find time during the Summit to plan a little bit for Boston | 17:49 |
| ianychoi | matjazp, because of my own business, I will only stay on Friday.. | 17:49 |
| matjazp | ildikov: I agree | 17:49 |
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| ianychoi | I should lead I18n meetup :) | 17:50 |
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| matjazp | ianychoi: youl'll fly here just for one day? | 17:50 |
| ianychoi | yep... sad news T.T | 17:50 |
| ianychoi | and also happy news to see Barcelona :) | 17:51 |
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| ildikov | uh, that's much travel for that short time :( | 17:51 |
| ildikov | but happy to see you there! | 17:51 |
| ianychoi | Yeah~~ :) | 17:52 |
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| matjazp | that's it for this week? | 17:55 |
| matjazp | can we wrap it up? | 17:55 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 17:55 |
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| ianychoi | Thank you very much for today meeting, matjazp ildikov and diablo_rojo_phon ! | 17:55 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | No problem :) | 17:56 |
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| matjazp | thanks all for your time and effort | 17:56 |
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| matjazp | see you next week | 17:56 |
| matjazp | bye! | 17:56 |
| ianychoi | Bye! :) | 17:56 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Bye! | 17:56 |
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| matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
| ildikov | thanks all! | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 17:56:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-09-19-17.00.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-09-19-17.00.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-09-19-17.00.log.html | 17:56 |
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| ildikov | talk to you soon, next week the latest! :) | 17:57 |
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| ryanpetrello | #startmeeting astara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 18:01:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ryanpetrello. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| ryanpetrello | o/ adam_g rods markmcclain | 18:02 |
| ryanpetrello | not much of an update from me | 18:02 |
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| ryanpetrello | got back from vacation this past week | 18:03 |
| ryanpetrello | and have been chatting w/ markmcclain about trying to fix the busted dvsm tests | 18:03 |
| ryanpetrello | adam's change is only half of the equation: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/astara+OR+project:openstack/astara-appliance+OR+project:openstack/astara-horizon+OR+project:openstack/astara-neutron,n,z | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | for some reason, VMs won't boot, but fail w/ a port binding error | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | nothing else from me atm unless you all have something | 18:04 |
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| ryanpetrello | alright, it nobody has anything else | 18:06 |
| ryanpetrello | #endmeeting | 18:06 |
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| zigo | ping IgorYozhikov zigo tlbr mordred jamespage ddellav coreycb zul onovy strigazi | 19:59 |
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| tlbr | o/ | 19:59 |
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| tlbr | onovy, hi | 20:00 |
| onovy | hi | 20:00 |
| zigo | onovy: We're about to start! :) | 20:00 |
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| zigo | #startmeeting deb_packaging | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 20:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zigo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: deb_packaging)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'deb_packaging' | 20:01 |
| zigo | #topic Current project status | 20:01 |
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| zigo | Most of all services already built in b3 in OpenStack infra. | 20:01 |
| zigo | aodh, barbican, ceilometer, cinder, designate, glance, heat, keystone, manila, mistral, murano, nova, neutron, sahara, senlin, watcher, zaqar | 20:01 |
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| zigo | All of them are already there. | 20:01 |
| zigo | I've even started doing a few rc1. | 20:02 |
| tlbr | horizon is still in progress, I'm working on it. | 20:02 |
| tlbr | what about swift ? | 20:03 |
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| zigo | Remaining to do: | 20:03 |
| zigo | congress: needs to backport antlr3 in infra, this will require a lot of dependencies to be able to build because of antlr3 | 20:03 |
| zigo | gnocchi (I didn't look) | 20:03 |
| zigo | horizon (see below) | 20:03 |
| zigo | ironic | 20:03 |
| zigo | magnum (needs to build k8sclient) | 20:03 |
| zigo | murano-agent | 20:03 |
| zigo | neutron-*aas plugins | 20:03 |
| zigo | networking-* plugins | 20:03 |
| zigo | trove (needs to wait until python-xmltodict 0.10.2 reaches Debian mirrors) | 20:03 |
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| zigo | onovy: Yeah, what's the status for Swift? | 20:03 |
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| onovy | zigo: done | 20:03 |
| strigazi | the magnum job succeeded on the merge of tag 3.0.0 | 20:03 |
| zigo | onovy: Good ! :) | 20:03 |
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| onovy | ah sry, not | 20:03 |
| onovy | newton swift is uploaded | 20:04 |
| onovy | but not in infra | 20:04 |
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| zigo | strigazi: Ah, great! :) | 20:04 |
| zigo | strigazi: I just validated it, so now you can propose some packaging enhancement if you'd like. | 20:05 |
| zigo | (after it merges, of course...) | 20:05 |
| zigo | onovy: Do you know how to make a patch to add it to infra? | 20:05 |
| onovy | zigo: no | 20:05 |
| zigo | onovy: Or do you want me to do it for you, maybe? | 20:05 |
| onovy | please :) | 20:05 |
| zigo | onovy: Ok, will do. | 20:05 |
| zigo | #action zigo to make a patch to add all stuff for deb-swift* in infra | 20:05 |
| zigo | onovy: You have to prepare all the /git/openstack/deb-* in Alioth though. | 20:06 |
| strigazi | ok, I have a patch waiting to rebase. I'll see if we can add the creation of the magnum_domain in debconf | 20:06 |
| onovy | zigo: any manual for it? | 20:06 |
| zigo | onovy: The structure is only a debian/newton (no other branch), then the tip of master from upstream. | 20:06 |
| zigo | That's all there is to know. | 20:07 |
| zigo | And call them all deb-* | 20:07 |
| onovy | ok, i will prepare it | 20:07 |
| zigo | onovy: Let me know when done, and I'll make the infra patch. | 20:07 |
| onovy | ok | 20:07 |
| zigo | #actoin onovy to prepare the swift deb-* git repositories on Alioth | 20:07 |
| zigo | onovy: I think we should make you core as well. | 20:07 |
| zigo | tlbr: Do you agree ? | 20:07 |
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| tlbr | zigo, of course | 20:07 |
| zigo | :) | 20:07 |
| tlbr | #action onovy to prepare the swift deb-* git repositories on Alioth | 20:07 |
| onovy | cool :) | 20:08 |
| zigo | #action zigo to propose onovy as core for packaging_deb | 20:08 |
| tlbr | :) | 20:08 |
| zigo | onovy: Without core, you can push merge commits, so it's important. | 20:08 |
| onovy | *can't? | 20:08 |
| zigo | (you can't push tags as well, but that's fine...) | 20:08 |
| zigo | can't, right. | 20:08 |
| zigo | sorry | 20:08 |
| onovy | ok | 20:08 |
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| zigo | As for the uploads to Debian experimental, I did so far only aodh (because first in alpha order... | 20:09 |
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| zigo | And Keystone. | 20:09 |
| zigo | #topic Issue with taskflow and Py3 | 20:09 |
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| zigo | It looks like taskflow fails with Py3 in Sid. | 20:10 |
| zigo | I couldn't build it. | 20:10 |
| zigo | It built fine in Jessie in infra though. | 20:10 |
| zigo | Does any of you want to work on that? | 20:10 |
| zigo | It's to be dealt with harlowja IMO. | 20:10 |
| harlowja | whatttt | 20:10 |
| zigo | He's by far the top commiter of taskflow. | 20:10 |
| harlowja | sup | 20:11 |
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| zigo | harlowja: It looks like taskflow fails to build in Sid with issues in Py3 tests. | 20:11 |
| harlowja | any idea what failure? | 20:11 |
| zigo | Let me get my build log ... | 20:11 |
| harlowja | cool | 20:11 |
| zigo | harlowja: http://paste.debian.net/829951/ | 20:12 |
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| zigo | (if you don't run debian, ignore the cert error...) | 20:12 |
| harlowja | can u get me a pip freeze | 20:12 |
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| harlowja | almost looks like a testtools or mock or something issue | 20:12 |
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| zigo | hogepodge: Oh, maybe I didn't clean my env before building ... :/ | 20:13 |
| zigo | hogepodge: Sorry, wrong person. | 20:13 |
| harlowja | :-P | 20:13 |
| zigo | harlowja: http://paste.openstack.org/show/581226/ | 20:13 |
| harlowja | close | 20:13 |
| zigo | harlowja: I'll attempt to rebuild with a clean env, and let you know. | 20:14 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:14 |
| harlowja | also py3.4 | 20:14 |
| harlowja | which py3 | 20:14 |
| harlowja | ? | 20:14 |
| zigo | harlowja: 3.5 | 20:14 |
| harlowja | btw, since this seems to be a meeting, ping me after in #openstack-oslo if u want | 20:14 |
| harlowja | don't want to take all your guys time | 20:14 |
| zigo | Will do, thanks. | 20:14 |
| harlowja | np | 20:14 |
| tlbr | 3.5.1 is in sid | 20:14 |
| zigo | #topic Re-enabling unit tests that were disabled | 20:15 |
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| zigo | #link end of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-deb-packaging | 20:15 |
| zigo | We got to re-enable all of these tests that were temporarily disabled until all build-depends were available. | 20:15 |
| zigo | Does anyone have time for that? | 20:16 |
| zigo | It's trivial work, just uncomment in debian/rules and debian/control, and send the patch for review. | 20:16 |
| tlbr | zigo, I can take a look once I finished with Horizon | 20:16 |
| zigo | tlbr: Ok. | 20:16 |
| zigo | #action tlbr to have a look once his finished with Horizon | 20:16 |
| zigo | #topic Horizon status | 20:17 |
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| zigo | tlbr: How far are you in? | 20:17 |
| tlbr | zigo, I'm on the way of pushing tv4 with removed non-free stuff | 20:17 |
| zigo | I had some chat with robcresswell, he says there's now almost full support for Django 1.10 there, so that's a good thing. The only thing that fails is the "manage.py compress", so functional tests aren't fully working yet, but it will be finished soon, he said. | 20:18 |
| tlbr | cool! | 20:18 |
| zigo | tlbr: Is there some non-free stuff in the other one? | 20:19 |
| zigo | Angular-Schema-Form | 20:19 |
| zigo | Or is it good to go for an upload to Sid? | 20:19 |
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| zigo | #action tlbr to finish his work on removing non-free files in libjs-tv4, then we're good with it | 20:20 |
| tlbr | zigo, python-xstatic-angular-schema-form_0.8.13.0-1.dsc is ok | 20:20 |
| zigo | #link last horizon Django 1.10 patch under review https://review.openstack.org/357829 | 20:20 |
| tlbr | lintian show non of unfree stuff | 20:20 |
| tlbr | *s | 20:21 |
| zigo | #action zigo to review tlbr package for xstatic-angular-schema-form | 20:21 |
| zigo | #topic Stackalytic status | 20:21 |
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| zigo | tlbr: Any news from Ilya ? | 20:21 |
| zigo | I failed to try again to get in touch, sorry... :( | 20:21 |
| zigo | Newton release is taking all of my time. | 20:22 |
| tlbr | zigo, I had a conversation with Ilya, as for now there is no easy fix for it. We will have a call tomorrow's afternoon | 20:22 |
| zigo | Good. | 20:22 |
| tlbr | Anyway we should fine a workaround for it. | 20:23 |
| tlbr | *find | 20:23 |
| zigo | #action tlbr to have a call with Ilya about how to fix Stackalytics, workaround should be possible | 20:23 |
| zigo | #topic Tempest testing with packages on infra | 20:23 |
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| zigo | So, I have my scripts that worked until Newton b2. | 20:24 |
| zigo | Now, the question is: will it work on infra | 20:24 |
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| zigo | mordred: clarkb: fungi: Any of you around? | 20:24 |
| tlbr | what might go wrong ? | 20:24 |
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| zigo | tlbr: During the setup, the script is building a bridge, and that bridge is normally facing the public internet. | 20:25 |
| zigo | With such a setup, if the different cloud running OpenStack infra have a mac filter, then no network packet will go through. | 20:26 |
| zigo | tlbr: Do you know if we could run a different kind of setup? | 20:26 |
| zigo | Also, I'm not sure if 8GB is enough. | 20:26 |
| zigo | The other possibility would be to continue validating with real hardware, as I used to do with Jenkins. | 20:27 |
| tlbr | zigo, you mean another way to deploy openstack ? | 20:27 |
| zigo | But that's kind of cluky... | 20:27 |
| zigo | tlbr: Yup. | 20:27 |
| tlbr | with devstack may be | 20:27 |
| zigo | tlbr: The point is to test packages ... | 20:28 |
| zigo | The jenkins solution isn't good as well because we wouldn't be able to use it as a gate / check in other jobs. | 20:28 |
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| zigo | Anyway, maybe postpone that for next week? | 20:28 |
| zigo | #topic Barcelona summit | 20:28 |
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| zigo | Who's attending? | 20:29 |
| zigo | onovy: strigazi: Are you comming? | 20:29 |
| * onovy | 20:29 | |
| strigazi | yeap | 20:29 |
| zigo | It looks like my company isn't willing to pay for my trip, but I'll go anyway. | 20:29 |
| onovy | huh | 20:30 |
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| zigo | It's *very* cheap to fligh (100 EUR), I just need to find a place to stay. | 20:30 |
| zigo | I may ask a friend ... :P | 20:30 |
| zigo | tlbr: onovy: strigazi: Anything you'd like to see on the agenda? | 20:31 |
| onovy | no | 20:31 |
| zigo | We still have a month to think about it... | 20:31 |
| tlbr | zigo, i guess i have no questions for now | 20:31 |
| zigo | Ok, let's all think about it then! :) | 20:32 |
| strigazi | I'll think of it | 20:32 |
| * onovy too | 20:32 | |
| zigo | #action everyone to think about the agenda for Barcelona Summit, and we'll discuss it next week. | 20:32 |
| zigo | #topic open discussion | 20:32 |
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| zigo | Anything else? | 20:32 |
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| zigo | I think we're good then... | 20:33 |
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| zigo | #endmeeting | 20:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 20:34:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-09-19-20.01.html | 20:34 |
| zigo | Thanks everyone. | 20:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-09-19-20.01.txt | 20:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-09-19-20.01.log.html | 20:34 |
| tlbr | ok, thank you for your time! | 20:34 |
| strigazi | bye | 20:34 |
| tlbr | bye bye | 20:34 |
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| armax | yello | 21:00 |
| johndperkins | hi | 21:00 |
| johnsom | Hi there | 21:00 |
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| hichihara | hi | 21:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 21:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 21:00 |
| electrocucaracha | hi | 21:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 19 21:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 21:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:00 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 21:01 |
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| armax | I suppose everyone is heads down testing RC1 | 21:02 |
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| armax | is that right? | 21:02 |
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| njohnston | pretty much | 21:02 |
| dougwig | it's monday, i'm just waiting for the fog in my head to clear. | 21:02 |
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| anteaya | it clears? | 21:02 |
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| armax | dougwig: if it’s any help I can keep the meeting short | 21:03 |
| armax | I have only a couple of recommendations/announcements to make anyway | 21:03 |
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| armax | wow, the fog must be pretty tick | 21:04 |
| armax | *thick | 21:04 |
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| dougwig | it is. | 21:04 |
| armax | :) | 21:04 |
| dougwig | :) | 21:04 |
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| njohnston | It's not fog, your head is just in The Cloud. | 21:05 |
| johnsom | sigh | 21:05 |
| armax | ok let’s dive in | 21:05 |
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| armax | njohnston: thanks for saving the embarassement | 21:06 |
| armax | I was saying… | 21:07 |
| armax | RC1 has been cut last week | 21:07 |
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| armax | we have roughly another week-ish to shake any outstanding bug between now and when we must call Newton done done | 21:07 |
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| dougwig | i'm curious if we have any limitations on merging at this point in the newton cycle? and are we freezing project-config changes, or is the gate crush far enough past? | 21:08 |
| armax | so even though Ocata master is open, we should still be careful at what we merge between now and then | 21:08 |
| armax | to make sure we don’t make cherry picks to stable/newton awkward | 21:08 |
| armax | dougwig: excellent question | 21:08 |
| armax | so as as far as neutron and neutron-related repos are concerned | 21:09 |
| armax | there’s no strict limitation in force, though as I said earlier, we should make sure we don’t go down the path of big refactoring right now | 21:09 |
| anteaya | dougwig: the gate crush seems past looking at today's activity | 21:09 |
| armax | at least for the next few days | 21:09 |
| armax | as for project-config changes | 21:10 |
| armax | I’d say, low risk changes can be looked at | 21:10 |
| dougwig | ok, so no 3000 line neutron-lib mass edits, or similar that would hurt backports. | 21:10 |
| armax | as for others that may affect stable branches or may have wider impact | 21:10 |
| anteaya | not the time to make huge design directions in testing though, but project config cleanups are fine | 21:10 |
| armax | we should probably want to exercise a higher level of scrutiny | 21:10 |
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| dougwig | for p-c, perhaps unfreezing things that don't affect the integrated gate? | 21:10 |
| armax | dougwig: yes | 21:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello. | 21:11 |
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| armax | dougwig: to give you an instance, we probably won’t make fullstack voting this week | 21:11 |
| armax | even though we may want to consider this soon enough | 21:11 |
| armax | so | 21:12 |
| armax | going back to what we should focus right now is the following: | 21:12 |
| armax | testing | 21:12 |
| armax | testing | 21:12 |
| armax | and testing | 21:12 |
| armax | oh | 21:12 |
| armax | I forgot | 21:12 |
| armax | documentation | 21:12 |
| armax | and testing | 21:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | hey! | 21:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 21:12 |
| armax | and by testing I don’t mean just poke the bears | 21:12 |
| armax | but added more coverage to things you’re not happy with | 21:12 |
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| armax | HenryG for instance is doing that for the keystone v3 work | 21:13 |
| armax | kevinbenton is doing for trunk | 21:13 |
| armax | etc | 21:13 |
| armax | the more test cases we add more holes will pop up that need filling | 21:13 |
| armax | officially we’re gonna need an RC2 | 21:13 |
| armax | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/newton-rc2 | 21:13 |
| armax | if you find a bug, report it, tag it newton-rc-potential and we’ll vet it for inclusion | 21:14 |
| armax | please review/give priority to patches that address RC issues | 21:14 |
| armax | test-only patches are ok | 21:14 |
| armax | but they should be address a real issue | 21:14 |
| armax | TrivialFixes at this point are only clogging the gate unless they affect rst files | 21:15 |
| njohnston | Should we add newton-rc-potential for bugs in projects handled by neutron release process, like *-aas? | 21:15 |
| armax | njohnston: yes | 21:15 |
| njohnston | good | 21:15 |
| armax | njohnston: like I did here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624496 | 21:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624496 in neutron "_create_or_update_agent used by neutron-dynamic-routing" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio) | 21:15 |
| armax | for dynamic-routing | 21:15 |
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| armax | another thing to keep an eye on is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ | 21:16 |
| armax | #link v | 21:16 |
| armax | #undo | 21:16 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7f23bd8ad650> | 21:16 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ | 21:16 |
| armax | I’ll keep it current until we release officially | 21:16 |
| armax | please keep me honest | 21:16 |
| armax | please go over | 21:17 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc | 21:17 |
| armax | and see if there’s anything you can contribute to plug a documentation hole | 21:17 |
| armax | and make yourself familiar with | 21:18 |
| armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/release-checklist.html | 21:18 |
| armax | to see what tasks are involved during this time of the year | 21:18 |
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| amotoki | re document, some of networking-guide bugs might be related too. | 21:19 |
| amotoki | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=networking-guide | 21:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's plenty of holes in the networking guide | 21:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm *still* trying to get the scenario rearchitecture done. turns out teaching and words are hard. :/ | 21:19 |
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| armax | Sam-I-Am: is there anything specific we can do to help? | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | for the rearch, reviewing the complete content would be nice (its a large wip now) | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | for example, getting someone familiar with l3ha to validate the l3ha content | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | same with dvr | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367691/ | 21:22 |
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| armax | ok, I’ll get amuller on this | 21:23 |
| armax | sc68cal: are you on it for the rebase? | 21:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sean is helping a bit with content review | 21:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll need to rebase it due to some minor patches that merged | 21:24 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: sorry I misread the patch | 21:24 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: ack | 21:24 |
| sc68cal | ++ | 21:24 |
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| armax | I added amuller and carl_baldwin on that patch, hopefully they’ll turn around | 21:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool, thats helpful | 21:25 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ack | 21:25 |
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| * carl_baldwin will look | 21:25 | |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: is there a specific cut off date by which doc changes are no longer accepted for Newton? | 21:25 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: I guess it’s the same for other projects | 21:25 |
| armax | right? | 21:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | usually we dont cut stable/newton until a couple weeks after release so bug fixes dont have to be backported | 21:26 |
| armax | ok | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | so probably a week before barcelona we'll cut | 21:26 |
| armax | nice | 21:26 |
| armax | ok, we’ll do our best to add/revise as much content as we can | 21:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool. i really like all the other contributions lately too. | 21:27 |
| haleyb | Sam-I-Am: i will look as well, sorry, just got here | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | nice to see docs with features | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | and i dont have to prod :) | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | haleyb: all the new scenarios include v6 by default | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | none of this second class citizen stuff anymore | 21:28 |
| haleyb | :-) | 21:28 |
| armax | ok, is there any question so far? | 21:29 |
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| armax | ok | 21:32 |
| armax | looks like you guys have this under control | 21:32 |
| dougwig | folks, even. | 21:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | "control" | 21:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | its relative | 21:33 |
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| armax | ok if there’s nothing else, it looks like we’re covered for this week | 21:34 |
| armax | our focus should be RC2 | 21:34 |
| armax | we have a few bugs to squash | 21:34 |
| armax | and patches to push through | 21:34 |
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| armax | if there’s nothing else let’s get some of the time back to do just that! | 21:35 |
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| amotoki | one thing | 21:36 |
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| amotoki | do we need to encourage neutron stadium project wiht release independent to release neutron releases? | 21:37 |
| armax | amotoki: go ahead | 21:37 |
| amotoki | like octavia, l2gw, sfc and so on. | 21:37 |
| armax | amotoki: it looks like you just did :) | 21:37 |
| dougwig | if they need encouragement, shouldn't they be on a different release cycle, then? | 21:37 |
| amotoki | according to the schedule https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 21:38 |
| amotoki | Oct 17-21 R+2 is the suggested deadline. | 21:38 |
| amotoki | See "Newton cycle-trailing Deadline" | 21:38 |
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| armax | amotoki: I’ll send an email reminder | 21:38 |
| amotoki | thanks | 21:38 |
| armax | amotoki: thank you | 21:39 |
| armax | ok | 21:40 |
| armax | thanks for your undevoted attention folks | 21:40 |
| armax | we’ll continue our chat on our usual media | 21:40 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 21:40:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-09-19-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-09-19-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | bye | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-09-19-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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