| *** aysyd has quit IRC | 00:01 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:01 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 00:04 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| *** yamahata__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:06 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:07 | |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:08 | |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| *** IlyaE has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:10 | |
| *** yaja has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:14 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:18 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 00:18 | |
| *** bauzas has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| *** yaja has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:20 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:22 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:23 | |
| *** rossk has quit IRC | 00:23 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:23 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:24 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:26 | |
| *** cjellick has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| *** sushils has quit IRC | 00:28 | |
| *** vuil has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| *** tjones1 has left #openstack-meeting | 00:30 | |
| *** stevemar has quit IRC | 00:32 | |
| *** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:32 | |
| *** HenryG_ has quit IRC | 00:32 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:33 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| *** ItSANgo has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 00:37 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| *** zhikunliu has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:39 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:39 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:41 | |
| *** mrodden1 is now known as mrodden | 00:43 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:43 | |
| *** ItSANgo has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:46 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:47 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:48 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:48 | |
| *** mhu has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:49 | |
| *** jamespage has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** 14WAB9C90 has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has quit IRC | 00:50 | |
| *** pablosan is now known as ZZpablosan | 00:50 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:50 | |
| *** Alexandra has quit IRC | 00:50 | |
| *** derekh has quit IRC | 00:50 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has quit IRC | 00:51 | |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 00:52 | |
| *** s0nea has quit IRC | 00:55 | |
| *** MrJoshua has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| *** vishy has quit IRC | 00:56 | |
| *** garyk has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** zhiyan_ has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** asselin has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** Guest80076 has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** kiall has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** bogdando has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** jraim has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** complexmind has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** branen__ has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** nijaba_ has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** tshirtman has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** tris- has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** zigo has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** jrist has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** nsaje has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** edleafe has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** huats has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** sc68cal has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** Shaan7 has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** tkay has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** fungi has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** mhu has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** acoles- has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** bdpayne has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** jamespage has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** jamespage has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** jamespage has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** s0nea_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** alexandra_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** branen_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** asselin_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** garyk1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** zhiyan` has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** jgriffith has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** akscram has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** GheRivero has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** creiht has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** nijaba has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** scott_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** ZZpablosan is now known as pablosan | 00:58 | |
| *** complexmind_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** scott_ is now known as Guest37964 | 00:58 | |
| *** tshirtma1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** s0nea_ is now known as s0nea | 00:58 | |
| *** complexmind_ is now known as complexmind | 00:58 | |
| *** dabo has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** huats has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** huats has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** huats has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** sc68cal_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** vish1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** vish1 is now known as vishy | 00:58 | |
| *** GheRivero has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** creiht has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** jraim has joined #openstack-meeting | 00:58 | |
| *** cdub has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** sileht has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** openstack has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:05 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o openstack | 01:05 | |
| *** russell_h has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:05 | |
| *** mattymo has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:05 | |
| *** zns has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** elo has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:05 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 01:06 | |
| *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:07 | |
| *** beagles has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** Daisy_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:08 | |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:10 | |
| *** devlaps has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:12 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| *** krotscheck has quit IRC | 01:19 | |
| *** rmk has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:19 | |
| *** leifz has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:19 | |
| *** RajeshMohan has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:19 | |
| *** noslzzp has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:19 | |
| *** mengxd has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:21 | |
| *** tteggel has quit IRC | 01:22 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 01:23 | |
| *** tteggel has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:23 | |
| *** gcb has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:24 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:25 | |
| *** comay has quit IRC | 01:25 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 01:25 | |
| *** cjellick has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:26 | |
| *** zigo has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| *** Edward-Zhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:29 | |
| *** yaguang has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:29 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:29 | |
| *** reed has quit IRC | 01:30 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 01:31 | |
| *** salv-orlando_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:32 | |
| *** zigo has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:33 | |
| *** cjellick has quit IRC | 01:34 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 01:37 | |
| *** salv-orlando_ is now known as salv-orlando | 01:37 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 01:38 | |
| *** fnaval has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:38 | |
| *** nosnos has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:39 | |
| *** yamamoto has quit IRC | 01:41 | |
| *** Linz_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:41 | |
| *** ErikB has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:44 | |
| *** Linz has quit IRC | 01:45 | |
| *** ErikB1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:46 | |
| *** ErikB has quit IRC | 01:48 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:48 | |
| *** kun_huang has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:50 | |
| *** IlyaE has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| *** kenhui has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:53 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:53 | |
| *** kenhui has quit IRC | 01:57 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 01:58 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 01:58 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 01:58 | |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 01:58 | |
| *** hemna has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:01 | |
| *** terriyu has quit IRC | 02:01 | |
| *** changbl has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:02 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:02 | |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:03 | |
| *** tris has quit IRC | 02:04 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:05 | |
| *** dkliban has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:06 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 02:07 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:07 | |
| *** xianghui has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:07 | |
| *** houming has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:09 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:09 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:09 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 02:10 | |
| *** slong has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:11 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 02:11 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:12 | |
| *** HenryG has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:12 | |
| *** tris has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:13 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has quit IRC | 02:13 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:14 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 02:14 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 02:14 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:15 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 02:16 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:17 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** markvoelker has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** zigo has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** dburmistrov has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:22 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:23 | |
| *** zigo has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:23 | |
| *** caleb_ has quit IRC | 02:24 | |
| *** radsy has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:28 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 02:35 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has quit IRC | 02:36 | |
| *** kenhui has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:37 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 02:38 | |
| *** topol has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:39 | |
| *** epico has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:39 | |
| *** kenhui has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:41 | |
| *** Linz_ has quit IRC | 02:43 | |
| *** Linz has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:44 | |
| *** epico has quit IRC | 02:44 | |
| *** epico has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:44 | |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:45 | |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:45 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:45 | |
| *** tris has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
| *** Linz has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** harlowja is now known as harlowja_away | 02:48 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:48 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:49 | |
| *** stevemar has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:50 | |
| *** kun_huang has quit IRC | 02:50 | |
| *** tris has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:51 | |
| *** ctracey has quit IRC | 02:51 | |
| *** kun_huang has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:51 | |
| *** haomaiwang has quit IRC | 02:51 | |
| *** ctracey has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:51 | |
| *** haomaiwa_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:51 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 02:52 | |
| *** gyee has quit IRC | 02:54 | |
| *** slong has quit IRC | 02:55 | |
| *** akscram has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:57 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:57 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 02:58 | |
| *** cjellick has joined #openstack-meeting | 02:59 | |
| *** ErikB1 has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** Linz has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:02 | |
| *** Linz has quit IRC | 03:03 | |
| *** Linz has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:03 | |
| *** dburmistrov has quit IRC | 03:04 | |
| *** amcrn has quit IRC | 03:05 | |
| *** haomaiwa_ has quit IRC | 03:05 | |
| *** Linz has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
| *** walterheck has quit IRC | 03:08 | |
| *** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:09 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 03:12 | |
| *** dcramer__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:12 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 03:14 | |
| *** sbalukoff has quit IRC | 03:16 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:19 | |
| *** rwsu has quit IRC | 03:19 | |
| *** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:20 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| *** kun_huang has left #openstack-meeting | 03:22 | |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 03:23 | |
| *** imsurit has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:24 | |
| *** walterheck has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:24 | |
| *** tanisdl has quit IRC | 03:26 | |
| *** xdmeng has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:27 | |
| *** dkliban has quit IRC | 03:28 | |
| *** mengxd has quit IRC | 03:29 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:32 | |
| *** stevemar has quit IRC | 03:35 | |
| *** haomaiwang has quit IRC | 03:36 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:37 | |
| *** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:37 | |
| *** reed has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:37 | |
| *** haomaiw__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:40 | |
| *** sarob__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:43 | |
| *** haomaiwang has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:45 | |
| *** sarob__ has quit IRC | 03:45 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:46 | |
| *** arnaud has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:48 | |
| *** lcheng has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:48 | |
| *** rwsu has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:50 | |
| *** fifieldt has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:51 | |
| *** sileht has quit IRC | 03:56 | |
| *** Daisy_ has quit IRC | 03:57 | |
| *** sileht has joined #openstack-meeting | 03:58 | |
| *** neelashah has quit IRC | 03:58 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 04:01 | |
| *** Edward-Zhang has quit IRC | 04:02 | |
| *** zhiyan` is now known as zhiyan | 04:02 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:02 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:05 | |
| *** markmcclain has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:06 | |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:06 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:06 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:07 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 04:08 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:09 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 04:10 | |
| *** vuil has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:11 | |
| *** vuil has quit IRC | 04:12 | |
| *** vuil has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:12 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 04:13 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 04:19 | |
| *** stevemar has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:20 | |
| *** Edward-Zhang has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:23 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 04:24 | |
| *** Daisy_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:25 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:25 | |
| *** psedlak has quit IRC | 04:28 | |
| *** nati_ueno has quit IRC | 04:28 | |
| *** slagle has quit IRC | 04:29 | |
| *** slagle has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:30 | |
| *** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:30 | |
| *** psedlak has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:31 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has quit IRC | 04:37 | |
| *** xdmeng has quit IRC | 04:38 | |
| *** nshaikh has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:42 | |
| *** alexandra_ is now known as alex-luncheon | 04:42 | |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:56 | |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 04:57 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 04:58 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:00 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 05:02 | |
| *** tkay has quit IRC | 05:08 | |
| *** Daisy__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:09 | |
| *** Daisy_ has quit IRC | 05:09 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 05:11 | |
| *** pablosan is now known as ZZpablosan | 05:12 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has quit IRC | 05:15 | |
| *** stevemar has quit IRC | 05:18 | |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:19 | |
| *** markwash has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:20 | |
| *** rbrady is now known as rbrady-afk | 05:21 | |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 05:23 | |
| *** markwash has quit IRC | 05:24 | |
| *** markwash_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:24 | |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:27 | |
| *** fnaval has quit IRC | 05:29 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 05:32 | |
| *** reed has quit IRC | 05:32 | |
| *** sbalukoff has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:33 | |
| *** alex-luncheon is now known as Alexandra | 05:35 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:36 | |
| *** tkay has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:38 | |
| *** garyk1 has quit IRC | 05:41 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 05:42 | |
| *** fnaval has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:52 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:53 | |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 05:56 | |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 05:59 | |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:01 | |
| *** tkay has quit IRC | 06:06 | |
| *** IgorYozhikov has quit IRC | 06:07 | |
| *** IgorYozhikov has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:07 | |
| *** meow-nofer_ has quit IRC | 06:07 | |
| *** meow-nofer_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:07 | |
| *** tkay has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:08 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 06:09 | |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:10 | |
| *** vuil1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:11 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:11 | |
| *** tkay has quit IRC | 06:12 | |
| *** vuil has quit IRC | 06:12 | |
| *** rakhmero_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:14 | |
| *** ildikov_ has quit IRC | 06:15 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 06:16 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 06:16 | |
| *** zoresvit1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:17 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:20 | |
| *** rakhmero_ has quit IRC | 06:21 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 06:21 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:21 | |
| *** Alexandra is now known as alex-out | 06:29 | |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:30 | |
| *** lcheng has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 06:32 | |
| *** topol has quit IRC | 06:32 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:35 | |
| *** vuil1 has quit IRC | 06:35 | |
| *** vuil has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:36 | |
| *** akuznets_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:40 | |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 06:40 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 06:43 | |
| *** radsy has quit IRC | 06:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 06:46 | |
| *** denis_makogon has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:50 | |
| *** Macaveli has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:50 | |
| *** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:52 | |
| *** vuil has quit IRC | 06:54 | |
| *** Macaveli has quit IRC | 06:56 | |
| *** Macaveli has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:56 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 06:56 | |
| *** Macaveli has quit IRC | 06:58 | |
| *** arnaud has quit IRC | 06:58 | |
| *** tkay has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:02 | |
| *** jaspreet has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:08 | |
| *** garyk has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:08 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 07:08 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** pradipta is now known as pradipta_away | 07:09 | |
| *** pradipta_away is now known as pradipta | 07:09 | |
| *** ildikov_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:10 | |
| *** mrda is now known as mrda_away | 07:11 | |
| *** mdurnosvistov_lt has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:15 | |
| *** mrunge has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:19 | |
| *** AaronGreen has quit IRC | 07:21 | |
| *** AaronGr has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:23 | |
| *** bknudson has quit IRC | 07:24 | |
| *** flaper87|afk is now known as flaper87 | 07:24 | |
| *** bknudson has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:26 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 07:28 | |
| *** mdurnosvistov_lt has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** skraynev_afk is now known as skraynev | 07:34 | |
| *** jlibosva has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:35 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
| *** belmoreira has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:40 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:41 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:42 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 07:43 | |
| *** brucer__ has quit IRC | 07:45 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 07:47 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 07:48 | |
| *** zoresvit1 has quit IRC | 07:53 | |
| *** jcoufal has joined #openstack-meeting | 07:59 | |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:01 | |
| *** bauzas has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:02 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:04 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:05 | |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:06 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has left #openstack-meeting | 08:11 | |
| *** Macaveli has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:13 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:13 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 08:13 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 08:14 | |
| *** morganfainberg is now known as morganfainberg_Z | 08:17 | |
| *** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:17 | |
| *** d0ugal_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:17 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 08:18 | |
| *** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:20 | |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 08:21 | |
| *** jgallard has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:24 | |
| *** sushils has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:24 | |
| *** I159 has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:24 | |
| *** I159_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:24 | |
| *** Fdot has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:24 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 08:31 | |
| *** amcrn has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:35 | |
| *** d0ugal_ is now known as d0ugakl | 08:36 | |
| *** d0ugakl is now known as d0ugal | 08:37 | |
| *** ygbo has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:38 | |
| *** saju_m has quit IRC | 08:41 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:43 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:44 | |
| *** ekarlso has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** ekarlso has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:47 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** imsurit has quit IRC | 08:49 | |
| *** amcrn_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:50 | |
| *** tshirtma1 is now known as tshirtman | 08:52 | |
| *** amcrn has quit IRC | 08:53 | |
| *** amcrn_ is now known as amcrn | 08:53 | |
| *** yassine has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:54 | |
| *** mengxd has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:56 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 08:58 | |
| *** nacim has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:00 | |
| *** Edward-Zhang has quit IRC | 09:03 | |
| *** zhiyan is now known as zhiyan_ | 09:06 | |
| *** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:09 | |
| *** tshirtman has quit IRC | 09:10 | |
| *** tshirtman has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:10 | |
| *** derekh has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:12 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 09:18 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 09:20 | |
| *** Daisy__ has quit IRC | 09:20 | |
| *** jcoufal has quit IRC | 09:20 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:22 | |
| *** jcoufal has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:22 | |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:22 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 09:22 | |
| *** enikanorov_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:24 | |
| *** jrist has quit IRC | 09:27 | |
| *** jaspreet has quit IRC | 09:29 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:29 | |
| *** jaspreet has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:32 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:33 | |
| *** yaguang has quit IRC | 09:36 | |
| *** afazekas has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:36 | |
| *** amcrn has quit IRC | 09:38 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 09:38 | |
| *** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:40 | |
| *** samcdona has quit IRC | 09:41 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:43 | |
| *** thouveng has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:46 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 09:48 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:49 | |
| *** denis_makogon has quit IRC | 09:51 | |
| *** samcdona has joined #openstack-meeting | 09:54 | |
| *** epico has quit IRC | 09:55 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 10:03 | |
| *** jaspreet1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:04 | |
| *** jaspreet has quit IRC | 10:06 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin1 has quit IRC | 10:07 | |
| *** mengxd has quit IRC | 10:08 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:08 | |
| *** yamamoto has left #openstack-meeting | 10:08 | |
| *** yamahata__ has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** zhikunliu has quit IRC | 10:13 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:14 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 10:17 | |
| *** safchain has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:18 | |
| *** branen_ has quit IRC | 10:18 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:22 | |
| *** zoresvit has quit IRC | 10:25 | |
| *** andreaf has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:26 | |
| *** paragan has quit IRC | 10:32 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has left #openstack-meeting | 10:34 | |
| *** imsurit has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:36 | |
| *** dcramer__ has quit IRC | 10:41 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 10:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:43 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 10:44 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 10:47 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
| *** saju_m has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| *** topol has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:50 | |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:50 | |
| *** eharney has quit IRC | 10:50 | |
| *** lcostantino has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:51 | |
| *** ashepelev has joined #openstack-meeting | 10:51 | |
| *** Tross has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** AaronGr has quit IRC | 11:02 | |
| *** luqas has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:02 | |
| *** AaronGr has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:06 | |
| *** xianghui has quit IRC | 11:09 | |
| *** jgallard has quit IRC | 11:10 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 11:13 | |
| *** jaspreet1 has quit IRC | 11:17 | |
| *** kenhui has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:19 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 11:20 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 11:21 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 11:24 | |
| *** masayukig has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:25 | |
| *** kenhui has quit IRC | 11:26 | |
| *** jaspreet has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:27 | |
| *** ChanServ changes topic to "test/gate jobs are queuing now in preparation for gerrit maintenance at 12:00 utc (eta to resume is 12:30 utc)" | 11:27 | |
| *** masayukig has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** jaspreet has quit IRC | 11:36 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:39 | |
| *** epico has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:41 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC | 11:42 | |
| *** fifieldt has quit IRC | 11:42 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:43 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:44 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 11:47 | |
| *** Tross has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:52 | |
| *** Tross1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 11:53 | |
| *** rbrady-afk is now known as rbrady | 11:56 | |
| *** Tross has quit IRC | 11:57 | |
| *** mwagner_lap has quit IRC | 11:59 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:01 | |
| *** aysyd has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:02 | |
| *** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:05 | |
| *** ndipanov_gone is now known as ndipanov | 12:08 | |
| *** jgallard has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:09 | |
| *** mengxd has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:10 | |
| *** mengxd has quit IRC | 12:11 | |
| *** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:13 | |
| *** meow-nofer has quit IRC | 12:14 | |
| *** ErikB has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:15 | |
| *** Tross1 has quit IRC | 12:16 | |
| *** julim has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:17 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| *** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:18 | |
| *** yassine has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** yassine has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:19 | |
| *** yassine has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** yassine has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:19 | |
| *** yassine has quit IRC | 12:20 | |
| *** yassine has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:20 | |
| *** enikanorov_ has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 12:23 | |
| *** david-lyle has quit IRC | 12:24 | |
| *** ChanServ changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 12:24 | |
| *** enikanorov_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:26 | |
| *** bogdando has quit IRC | 12:33 | |
| *** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:37 | |
| *** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:38 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:39 | |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:39 | |
| *** jasondotstar has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:40 | |
| *** ArxCruz has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:42 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 12:42 | |
| *** jaspreet has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:42 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:43 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:44 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 12:44 | |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:44 | |
| *** paragan has quit IRC | 12:44 | |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:44 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 12:45 | |
| *** zhiyan_ is now known as zhiyan | 12:47 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 12:48 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has quit IRC | 12:49 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:51 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:51 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:51 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 12:52 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:53 | |
| *** dkranz has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:54 | |
| *** bogdando has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:55 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC | 12:55 | |
| *** weshay has quit IRC | 12:55 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 12:55 | |
| *** changbl has quit IRC | 12:57 | |
| *** houming has quit IRC | 12:59 | |
| *** dvarga has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:00 | |
| *** epico has quit IRC | 13:00 | |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:01 | |
| *** dcramer__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:02 | |
| *** mrunge has quit IRC | 13:02 | |
| *** phil_h has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:04 | |
| *** jjmb has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:05 | |
| *** akuznets_ has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:06 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has quit IRC | 13:08 | |
| *** rbowen has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:11 | |
| *** dkliban has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:14 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:15 | |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:15 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 13:16 | |
| *** belmoreira has quit IRC | 13:18 | |
| *** mengxd has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:19 | |
| *** casanch1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:20 | |
| *** pradipta is now known as pradipta_away | 13:20 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:21 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC | 13:21 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 13:21 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 13:22 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:24 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:25 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
| *** haneef__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:25 | |
| *** haneef_ has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
| *** jdob has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:26 | |
| *** asselin__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:26 | |
| *** asselin_ has quit IRC | 13:26 | |
| *** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:27 | |
| *** xuhanp has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:28 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:29 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 13:29 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 13:29 | |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 13:30 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:31 | |
| *** ameade has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:32 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:33 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:34 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:34 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
| *** nacim has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
| *** nealph has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
| *** thomasem has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:36 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 13:37 | |
| *** dcramer__ has quit IRC | 13:37 | |
| *** radez_g0n3 is now known as radez | 13:38 | |
| *** casanch1 has left #openstack-meeting | 13:39 | |
| *** mrunge has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:39 | |
| *** jgrimm has quit IRC | 13:40 | |
| *** nacim has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:40 | |
| *** nosnos has quit IRC | 13:43 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:43 | |
| *** nealph has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:44 | |
| *** otherwiseguy has quit IRC | 13:45 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:46 | |
| *** adalbas has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:47 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 13:47 | |
| *** mrunge has quit IRC | 13:48 | |
| *** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:48 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 13:48 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:49 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:50 | |
| *** ErikB has quit IRC | 13:51 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:55 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 13:55 | |
| *** jaspreet has quit IRC | 13:55 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 13:55 | |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 13:56 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:57 | |
| *** ivasev has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:57 | |
| *** Sam-I-Am has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:58 | |
| *** vhoward- has joined #openstack-meeting | 13:58 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 13:59 | |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:00 | |
| *** tobi1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:00 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:00 | |
| *** AJaeger has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:00 | |
| Sam-I-Am | hello | 14:00 |
|---|---|---|
| *** mwagner_lap has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:01 | |
| AJaeger | Hi! | 14:01 |
| *** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:01 | |
| Sam-I-Am | we need an annegentle | 14:01 |
| * gpocentek waves | 14:02 | |
| *** dcramer__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:02 | |
| *** dims_ has quit IRC | 14:03 | |
| *** nickchase has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:03 | |
| *** shaunm has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:03 | |
| *** ftcjeff has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:03 | |
| *** openstack has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:04 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o openstack | 14:04 | |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 14:04 | |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: definitely morning *slurrrrrrrp* | 14:05 |
| nickchase | :) | 14:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: still experiencing post-dst effects | 14:05 |
| AJaeger | mmh, seems not to work - or does it? | 14:05 |
| nickchase | aren't you glad Anne decided to ignore dst? | 14:05 |
| nickchase | ajaeger: what? | 14:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: try #startmeeting again | 14:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | the bot was missing | 14:05 |
| AJaeger | #startmeeting docteam | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 14:05:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is AJaeger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 14:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | let's roll... | 14:06 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am, do you want to chair through the meeting? I'm currently in another meeting as well and need to multiplex... | 14:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | s... sure. not sure of the bot commands though. | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | anyone else here know them? | 14:07 |
| *** dkranz has quit IRC | 14:07 | |
| AJaeger | Just use #topic "text", #action "text" | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | aight | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic "Action items from last meeting" | 14:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think the bot doesn't like me | 14:08 |
| AJaeger | Ok, let me do those | 14:08 |
| AJaeger | #topic "Action items from last meeting" | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""Action items from last meeting" (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:08 | |
| Sam-I-Am | aight... | 14:09 |
| *** trey_h has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:09 | |
| *** stevemar has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:09 | |
| *** trey_h has quit IRC | 14:09 | |
| nickchase | Last meeting was pretty informal | 14:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: yeah, i'm going for the last apac meeting notes | 14:09 |
| nickchase | we were going to get Trove implemented in the install guide | 14:09 |
| nickchase | ah | 14:09 |
| nickchase | ok | 14:09 |
| *** trey_h has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:10 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:10 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i was action'd to build sample diagrams for the installation guide | 14:10 |
| *** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:10 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm mostly done with that and will send it out to the list for review today or tomorrow | 14:10 |
| phil_h | They look qite good so far | 14:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | after that we need to document some sort of standards for diagrams | 14:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was using omnigraffle, but moved over to inkscape. anything that outputs standard svg seems to work. | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | once the diagrams are approved, i'll start putting them into the install guide | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything else on this? | 14:12 |
| phil_h | We need to source filesposted | 14:12 |
| phil_h | I have noticed at times only the png files areavailable | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think docbook understands svgs | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | pngs dont resize well | 14:12 |
| *** sgordon has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:12 | |
| Sam-I-Am | hi sgordon | 14:13 |
| sgordon | >.> | 14:13 |
| *** tobi1 has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i guess there's still an action item to check/build diagram conventions | 14:13 |
| AJaeger | clouddocs-maven converts automatically from svg to png AFAIK | 14:13 |
| *** trey_h has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. but we can feed it .svg in the source, right? | 14:14 |
| nickchase | right | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | aight | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything else? | 14:14 |
| nickchase | you would have to, i would think. | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | loquacities mentioned another face to face meeting for apac folks on april 9th... but that doesn't apply to this group. | 14:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | loquacities also mentioned asking annegentle about core reviewers | 14:15 |
| *** dims_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:15 | |
| Sam-I-Am | apparently annegentle completed that project | 14:15 |
| nickchase | she did announce the latest round. | 14:16 |
| *** jasondotstar has quit IRC | 14:16 | |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the end of old items | 14:16 |
| *** MaxV_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:16 | |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: do you want to talk about trove? | 14:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | since it was kinda-sorta from our last meeting | 14:16 |
| nickchase | Sure. | 14:16 |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 14:16 | |
| nickchase | Basically, the folks from Tesora have taken over responsibility for the Trove docs | 14:17 |
| nickchase | Laurel is working on getting a "here's how you add Trove" section into the install docs | 14:17 |
| nickchase | So that's one less thing for us to worry about for a couple of weeks | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | excellent | 14:17 |
| *** hartsocks has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:17 | |
| nickchase | Sam-I-Am: Do you want to talk about the networking section of the install guide? | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: its a topic soon | 14:18 |
| nickchase | :) | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | does anyone here know about the ops guide schedule with oreilly? | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats a topic but i think its an anne thing | 14:18 |
| nickchase | I know anne said it want to production | 14:18 |
| nickchase | so we should see it soon, methinks | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats what i thought too. i saw some final rounds of editing a couple of weeks ago. | 14:19 |
| nickchase | "soon" being a relative term, of course. | 14:19 |
| AJaeger | #topic trove install docs | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "trove install docs (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:19 | |
| phil_h | should have gone to production last week | 14:19 |
| nickchase | for traditional publishing production is about 6 weeks | 14:19 |
| *** dianefleming has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:19 | |
| phil_h | I did a review of it the week before | 14:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | hi dianefleming | 14:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | phil_h: cool | 14:19 |
| dianefleming | Hi! Sorry I'm late | 14:19 |
| AJaeger | nickchase, that's great! | 14:19 |
| nickchase | hey, dianefleming | 14:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | dianefleming: do you know more about the oreilly ops guide schedule? | 14:20 |
| nickchase | AJaeger: Note the "about". :) | 14:20 |
| dianefleming | I don't know anything about the ops guide schedule | 14:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | dianefleming: ok | 14:20 |
| dianefleming | sorry | 14:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: #topic design summit proposal system open, doc slots tue-wed | 14:20 |
| AJaeger | #topic design summit proposal system open, doc slots tue-wed | 14:21 |
| AJaeger | Yes, sir! | 14:21 |
| AJaeger | #topic design summit proposal system open, doc slots tue-wed | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "design summit proposal system open, doc slots tue-wed (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:21 | |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: thanks jaegerbot | 14:21 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 14:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | anyone have any input on this topic? | 14:21 |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:21 | |
| *** chandan_kumar has quit IRC | 14:22 | |
| Sam-I-Am | anyone proposing stuff? | 14:22 |
| nickchase | now to confirm: this is the "down and dirty" stuff right? | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: #topic installation guide updates for icehouse | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr | 14:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: i guess... i think this is an anne topic :/ | 14:22 |
| *** dkranz has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:22 | |
| AJaeger | #topic installation guide updates for Icehouse | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "installation guide updates for Icehouse (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:23 | |
| nickchase | OK, well, I was going to propose we talk about how to simplify the process of working on docs | 14:23 |
| nickchase | but I guess it can wait. :) | 14:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: go for it | 14:23 |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 14:23 | |
| dianefleming | yes | 14:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think everyone agrees about simplification | 14:23 |
| nickchase | Well, I have been noticing that it's taking an inordinate amount of time and effort to get people spun up to work on docs. I mean CRAZY amounts of time. | 14:24 |
| dianefleming | what would you change | 14:24 |
| nickchase | That would, of course, be the topic, but ... | 14:24 |
| *** vijendar has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:24 | |
| nickchase | there's got to be a way to do something like import changes from a wiki or SOMETHING. | 14:24 |
| *** vijendar has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:24 | |
| nickchase | I can put something together | 14:24 |
| nickchase | if there's interest | 14:24 |
| *** chandan_kumar has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:25 | |
| dianefleming | import changes from where? | 14:25 |
| sgordon | it depends on the problem you are trying to fix | 14:25 |
| nickchase | Again, that would have to be defined, but a wiki, or something similarly easy to work with. | 14:25 |
| sgordon | initial import is easy but then you still have to handle edits to docbook | 14:25 |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:25 | |
| sgordon | and wiki or asciidoc/rst to docbook conversions dont typically have the semantics that you expect | 14:26 |
| nickchase | The problem I'm trying to fix is that it takes someone who's really smart an entire day to get spun up to work on docs. | 14:26 |
| sgordon | right | 14:26 |
| nickchase | sgordon: I'm aware. I really am. | 14:26 |
| *** bill_az_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:26 | |
| sgordon | what i am saying is an import process doesnt really fix that | 14:26 |
| *** krotscheck has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:26 | |
| nickchase | Please keep in mind that i"m the person who moved Manning Publications to docbook. | 14:26 |
| nickchase | So I know how valuable semantics are. | 14:26 |
| nickchase | But there's got to be a way for us to make things better. | 14:26 |
| nickchase | I didn't (yet) think through how to do it | 14:27 |
| nickchase | but I can if there's interest | 14:27 |
| nickchase | that's all I'm saying. | 14:27 |
| *** ErikB has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:27 | |
| Sam-I-Am | if it helps get more people working on docs... | 14:27 |
| sgordon | nickchase, so one of the things atm is we're very focused on guides as the deliverable | 14:27 |
| *** dkranz has quit IRC | 14:28 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 is now known as johnthetubaguy | 14:28 | |
| sgordon | which leads to the value of the semantics etc. | 14:28 |
| sgordon | i wonder if there is space for a more knowledge base style approach | 14:28 |
| nickchase | that's an idea. | 14:28 |
| sgordon | some of the openstack security notice content already takes this form | 14:28 |
| sgordon | albeit on the wiki | 14:28 |
| nickchase | which is not a bad thing | 14:28 |
| sgordon | but we could have a more formal system for writing and indexing that | 14:28 |
| *** tongli has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:28 | |
| sgordon | i mean the thing is a lot of that content now goes to disparate blogs all over the place | 14:29 |
| nickchase | honestly, if I had to choose between a system where the only way to provide info to the docs team is ... | 14:29 |
| *** ArthurBerezin has left #openstack-meeting | 14:29 | |
| nickchase | to put some simple notice in a bug that the docs team then has to interpret and write, and ... | 14:29 |
| nickchase | a system where someone can actually do the writing, I would prefer the latter, even if ... | 14:29 |
| nickchase | it meant that a human doc writer would have to take that and add it to the docbook. | 14:29 |
| nickchase | So even a "manual" import might be better than what we have now. | 14:30 |
| *** tobi1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:30 | |
| *** otherwiseguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:30 | |
| *** matsuhashi has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:30 | |
| sgordon | there's nothing really stopping that today | 14:30 |
| nickchase | So that's my thought; is there interest in doing a session on making that happen? | 14:30 |
| sgordon | the reality is for example that a good blueprint should have a spec that would allow us to do that for docimpact | 14:30 |
| nickchase | sgordon: no, there's not | 14:30 |
| *** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:30 | |
| sgordon | (i think this is a tangent but the bulk of the queue really seems to be docimpact stuff we have no idea wtf to do with) | 14:31 |
| sgordon | stuff that is just fixes seems to get done relatively quickly | 14:31 |
| nickchase | sgordon: right, that's PRECISELY my point | 14:31 |
| *** mengxd has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| nickchase | I think that if there was an easier way for devs to do the actual additions to the docs, they might do it | 14:31 |
| *** mengxd has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:31 | |
| nickchase | they might not, but we wouldn't be any worse off than we are now | 14:31 |
| sgordon | nickchase, im doubtful if they cant even be bothered writing a design | 14:32 |
| sgordon | which is the case in many cases today | 14:32 |
| *** zns has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:32 | |
| nickchase | like I said, there are details to work out, and maybe that's not the right answer as to HOW | 14:33 |
| sgordon | i think it's worth having a session but i think it almost needs to be in one of the cross project slots to be successful | 14:33 |
| nickchase | that's not a bad idea. | 14:33 |
| nickchase | so how do we do that? | 14:33 |
| sgordon | good question :) | 14:33 |
| sgordon | draft a proposal like any other i guess? | 14:33 |
| nickchase | OK, so Anne will know, I would think | 14:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like an action item to me :) | 14:33 |
| nickchase | sure does. | 14:33 |
| nickchase | I'll take it | 14:33 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am, what's the wording of the AI? | 14:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: ^^ | 14:34 |
| sgordon | ? | 14:34 |
| AJaeger | "action item: Talk with annegentle about a cross-project proposal for getting docs easier in?" | 14:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: i think that works | 14:34 |
| dianefleming | sounds good | 14:34 |
| AJaeger | #action nickchase talk with annegentle about a cross-project proposal for getting docs easier in? | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | yay | 14:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | off to the next topic (currently the topic) ? | 14:35 |
| AJaeger | #topic Now really: Installation guide updates for Icehouse | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Now really: Installation guide updates for Icehouse (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:35 | |
| *** mattgriffin has quit IRC | 14:35 | |
| *** dianefleming has left #openstack-meeting | 14:35 | |
| *** dianefleming has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:35 | |
| Sam-I-Am | making progress on the updates | 14:36 |
| *** nati_ueno has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:36 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i have pulled a lot of bugs under the blueprint and then opened bug #1291071 for all the steps | 14:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger mentioned using the blueprint tag in patch commit messages, but thats new to me. | 14:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we need to get the blueprint 'approved' or whatever | 14:37 |
| *** eharney has quit IRC | 14:37 | |
| AJaeger | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Including_external_references - search for blueprint | 14:37 |
| *** troytoman-away is now known as troytoman | 14:37 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:37 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm curious if there's a way to tag specific work items | 14:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | besides manually changing them to "DONE" | 14:38 |
| *** topol has quit IRC | 14:38 | |
| nickchase | Sam-I-Am: We definitely need to get the status changed on that. Action item? | 14:38 |
| sgordon | Sam-I-Am, not really - typically you would use the gerrit topic for the blueprint to review outstanding patchsets | 14:38 |
| sgordon | that's about as close as it gets | 14:38 |
| sgordon | infra also automatically adds patches that tag the bp to the bp whiteboard, as useful as that is | 14:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok. do we propose a gerrit topic for the blueprint or is it automatically generated? | 14:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | nickchase: since you created the bp, do you want the action item to talk to anne about making it more official? | 14:40 |
| nickchase | sure | 14:40 |
| *** chandankumar_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:40 | |
| *** troytoman is now known as troytoman-away | 14:40 | |
| AJaeger | #action nickchase to talk with annegentle about getting the blueprint approved and how to use it | 14:40 |
| AJaeger | nickchase, thanks | 14:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | wooho | 14:40 |
| *** dkranz has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:40 | |
| *** chandankumar_ has quit IRC | 14:40 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm also going to update the work items in the bp | 14:41 |
| AJaeger | #action Sam-I-Am to update the work items in the blueprint | 14:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | wish i knew this before i opened the bug :P | 14:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | live and learn | 14:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | i took a stab at "flattening" the neutron controller section | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | that is, removing support for multiple plug-ins | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | several hours later i realized the sun went down | 14:42 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | i also removed stuff no longer necessary for icehouse | 14:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | since these are large changes, i'm looking for suggestions on two options... | 14:43 |
| *** tobi1 has quit IRC | 14:43 | |
| Sam-I-Am | 1) submit the flattened section which still covers OVS... no changes to the content minus icehouse-specific issues | 14:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | 2) change ovs to ml2 and submit the whole mess | 14:43 |
| *** jgrimm has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:44 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i kind of like option 1 because people can still use the guide until we're ready to do all the ML2 conversion | 14:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | and there's less to review | 14:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | plus there's a few distros with broken icehouse/neutron still :/ | 14:44 |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:45 | |
| Sam-I-Am | silence... | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | anyone? | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm sort of new to big changes, so trying to make this easier for everyone | 14:46 |
| nickchase | I'm for option 1 as well | 14:46 |
| phil_h | I like getting to ML2 as soon as possible | 14:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | phil_h: i hope it works for icehouse :P | 14:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | phil_h: once these sections are flattened, adding ml2 should be pretty easy. | 14:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | basically just change the plug-in section | 14:47 |
| phil_h | It should if OVS work ( fingers crossed behind back) | 14:47 |
| AJaeger | we can freeze the chapter for a few days to avoid merge conflicts... | 14:47 |
| phil_h | Probably should flatten first | 14:48 |
| *** Macaveli has quit IRC | 14:48 | |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: luckily i havent seen much neutron stuff. people are afraid of it :) | 14:48 |
| AJaeger | this is on trunk - where we have a havana guide as well. I don't have a problem with doing major surgery for some days. | 14:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll submit the flattening patch for the controller section | 14:49 |
| phil_h | they are but they should be learning it | 14:49 |
| AJaeger | We could even stop publishing for a few days until everything is in ;) | 14:49 |
| *** rfolco has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:49 | |
| Sam-I-Am | the patch isn't glorious and still needs text/diagrams plus the ML2 content | 14:49 |
| *** mattgriffin has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:49 | |
| Sam-I-Am | but its a start to get us on the right path | 14:49 |
| *** ashepelev has quit IRC | 14:49 | |
| Sam-I-Am | it should pass 'niceness' and be usable until we add ml2 | 14:50 |
| *** tobi1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:50 | |
| Sam-I-Am | however, because all of the sub-sections are now in one place, it brings out more of the issues with the original text | 14:50 |
| AJaeger | The one think I learned from the Havana work on the Install guide: Release early, release often ;) Give others the chance to help out | 14:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: agreed | 14:50 |
| *** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:50 | |
| *** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:50 | |
| *** thedodd has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:50 | |
| Sam-I-Am | so flatten each section -> submit -> add ml2 -> submit | 14:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | sounds like a nicer cycle | 14:51 |
| AJaeger | Sam-I-Am, agreed. | 14:51 |
| phil_h | agree | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | based on the large number of steps in the bug, i'm trying to make this as atomic as possible | 14:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think that's it for install guide stuff | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty of work to do | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | #agreed Networking chapter surgery will be submitted in smaller steps: flatten each section -> submit -> add ml2 -> submit | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | my action item "do stuff!" | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | Next topic? | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: google hangout | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | #topic Google Hangout | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Google Hangout (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:52 | |
| *** andreaf has quit IRC | 14:52 | |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle passed this one off to me | 14:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was suggesting 20:00 UTC on 3/19 | 14:53 |
| *** kevinconway has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:53 | |
| Sam-I-Am | however, lana mentioned that we catered to EU folks last time | 14:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | and suggested 21:00 or 22:00 UTC | 14:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is 7am or 8am AEST or whatever... i think | 14:54 |
| *** jmontemayor has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:55 | |
| AJaeger | 21:00 UTC is 10pm for me - I could do it. gpocentek what about you? | 14:55 |
| *** jmontemayor has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| AJaeger | Otherwise we do it at some time where I'm sleeping ;) | 14:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | since when do you sleep? | 14:56 |
| * AJaeger is not fifield ;) | 14:56 | |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 14:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | the apac folks think i dont sleep | 14:56 |
| annegentle | hey sorry I'm late, wifi is worse than I anticipated | 14:56 |
| *** GnomeKing has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:56 | |
| *** GnomeKing has left #openstack-meeting | 14:56 | |
| *** thingee has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:56 | |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: we're limping along pretty well | 14:56 |
| *** BobBall has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:56 | |
| annegentle | thank you for running with it! | 14:56 |
| annegentle | sleeping is pretty much required sometimes! :) | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: #action me to propose 21:00 on 3/19 on -doc | 14:57 |
| AJaeger | So, shall we propose 21:00 UTC? | 14:57 |
| dianefleming | ha ha | 14:57 |
| gpocentek | AJaeger: yes that could work for me too | 14:57 |
| AJaeger | #action Sam-I-Am propose 21:00 UTC on 2014-03-19 for Google Hangout on mailing list | 14:57 |
| AJaeger | #topic Open Questions | 14:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Questions (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:57 | |
| *** jmontemayor has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:57 | |
| AJaeger | WE have two minutes - any quick questions? | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | lol | 14:57 |
| annegentle | I like the proposal, thanks Sam-I-Am for running wid it! | 14:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: could you quickly touch on the oreilly schedule and docs proposals for the simmit? | 14:58 |
| annegentle | you can now propose talks at http://summit.openstack.org | 14:58 |
| annegentle | heh mind reader! | 14:58 |
| *** bruff has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:58 | |
| annegentle | Also the O'Reilly edits come back for me to enter 3/14 so I'll be heads down on that | 14:58 |
| annegentle | The copyeditor already caught the problematic Dashboard/dashboard | 14:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: no wonder we dont see you much anymore | 14:59 |
| AJaeger | #action propose talks at http://summit.openstack.org | 14:59 |
| *** sld has joined #openstack-meeting | 14:59 | |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: this week was SXSW Sat-today | 14:59 |
| AJaeger | annegentle, if you need some help with doing some changes, just ask! | 14:59 |
| annegentle | Downtown, in conference centers, flooded wifi, etc! | 14:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: oh no, another SomethingGate to discuss | 14:59 |
| annegentle | AJaeger: great idea! I'll distribute by chapter once I see what we get | 14:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | annegentle: if you need help let me know too | 14:59 |
| annegentle | Sam-I-Am: ha ha, it's all good | 14:59 |
| *** imsurit has quit IRC | 14:59 | |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll stop sleeping! | 14:59 |
| annegentle | I've also started talking to our editor at Rackspace, she'll do a full edit on the User Guide end-of-March | 15:00 |
| AJaeger | I suggest we move the discussion to #openstack-doc and I end the meeting now... | 15:00 |
| *** changbl has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:00 | |
| annegentle | Sounds good | 15:00 |
| AJaeger | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 15:00 | |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: works for me | 15:00 |
| annegentle | thanks again all | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 15:00:22 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-03-12-14.05.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-03-12-14.05.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-03-12-14.05.log.html | 15:00 |
| *** sc68cal_ has quit IRC | 15:00 | |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| AJaeger | Thanks everybody for attending, thanks Sam-I-Am for chairing! | 15:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: thanks for handling the topics :) | 15:00 |
| *** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:00 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 15:01:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:01 |
| *** Sam-I-Am has left #openstack-meeting | 15:01 | |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:01 | |
| BobBall | o/ | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | hi, who is around for todays meeting? | 15:01 |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:01 | |
| BobBall | Me. I don't think Mate can make it today though. | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | you got anything you want to raise today? | 15:01 |
| BobBall | We can talk about the CI | 15:02 |
| BobBall | it's moved to RAX | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:02 | |
| BobBall | everything seems to be running again | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | its bug fixing time... | 15:02 |
| BobBall | we had a short downtime though | 15:02 |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 15:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | we had an RC1 bug, but its OK now | 15:02 |
| BobBall | I've updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/XenServer_CI | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic CI | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, was in bugs, lets do CI | 15:02 |
| BobBall | http://eeed722a22cb5387f3e9-8fd069087bab3f263c7f9ddd524fce42.r22.cf5.rackcdn.com/ci_status/current_queue.txt shows that we don't have any tests in the queue! | 15:02 |
| *** IlyaE has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:02 | |
| *** jbernard has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| BobBall | http://eeed722a22cb5387f3e9-8fd069087bab3f263c7f9ddd524fce42.r22.cf5.rackcdn.com/ci_status/recent_finished.txt show we have a very strong pass rate ATM | 15:03 |
| *** nshaikh has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| *** saju_m has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
| *** bogdando has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:03 |
| *** jbernard has left #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| BobBall | but we did have a period of downtime | 15:03 |
| *** bogdando has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| BobBall | there was a bug in the new gerrit listener needed for RAx | 15:03 |
| *** AJaeger has left #openstack-meeting | 15:03 | |
| BobBall | RAX* deployment | 15:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, oops | 15:03 |
| BobBall | which meant it built up a massive backlog of events | 15:04 |
| BobBall | which were never seen | 15:04 |
| BobBall | whoops | 15:04 |
| *** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:04 | |
| johnthetubaguy | it it worth rekicking those, or find a way to do that in future? | 15:04 |
| *** banix has left #openstack-meeting | 15:04 | |
| *** gokrokve_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:04 | |
| BobBall | Not sure | 15:04 |
| BobBall | I say wait for http://www.rcbops.com/gerrit/reports/nova-cireport.html to be updated | 15:04 |
| BobBall | then re-add all of the missing jobs ;) | 15:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that might do the trick | 15:05 |
| *** banix has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:05 | |
| *** dianefleming has left #openstack-meeting | 15:05 | |
| BobBall | mikal: Could you add a timestamp to your report? :) | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | or nick that code to have a fix up script? | 15:05 |
| BobBall | We could... but hopefully it'll be very rare | 15:05 |
| BobBall | It does feel like we're subverting the stats though | 15:05 |
| BobBall | by re-adding the jobs it claims we missed ;) | 15:06 |
| *** krotscheck has quit IRC | 15:06 | |
| BobBall | gaming rather than subverting | 15:06 |
| *** shaunm has left #openstack-meeting | 15:06 | |
| johnthetubaguy | well, we are also ensuring we test everything, so I don't feel too bad about that | 15:06 |
| *** roeyc has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:06 | |
| *** roeyc has quit IRC | 15:07 | |
| BobBall | hehe | 15:07 |
| BobBall | Anyway | 15:07 |
| BobBall | the thing that's missing now | 15:07 |
| BobBall | which - if you have something to help would be useful johnthetubaguy | 15:07 |
| BobBall | is monitoring of the CI | 15:07 |
| BobBall | clearly when jenkins goes down everybody jumps up and down | 15:08 |
| BobBall | but if our 3rd party CI goes down it might take ages before we notice | 15:08 |
| BobBall | which would be a pain | 15:08 |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| *** balajiiyer has left #openstack-meeting | 15:08 | |
| *** ErikB has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that would be good, not quite sure the best way to do that | 15:08 |
| BobBall | Hmmm - maybe I could work with mikal on that - if he's producing the stats, maybe he can send an email to drivers that fall below a particular pass rate in the last day or something | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | needs to be in the right peoples eyes | 15:09 |
| *** ErikB has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:09 | |
| BobBall | if XS CI misses more than 10% of jobs in 24 hours, or passes fewer than 80% of jobs then something is broken | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds like mikal's stuff is a good pointer | 15:09 |
| BobBall | I mean piggy-back on his cronjob | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | more than 1% would do it for me | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, makes sense | 15:09 |
| BobBall | it's a generic thing | 15:09 |
| BobBall | so the other drivers should also sign up | 15:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | sure, might be good getting it upstream | 15:10 |
| *** paragan has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| johnthetubaguy | i mean in infra | 15:10 |
| BobBall | maybe yeah | 15:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | like in the status links | 15:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | or something | 15:10 |
| *** mengxd has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, so all good | 15:11 |
| *** changbl has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
| BobBall | Think so | 15:11 |
| *** rdmcnair has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:11 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:12 | |
| BobBall | you were going to talk about bugs? | 15:12 |
| BobBall | I saw you went through and reclassified some | 15:12 |
| BobBall | which is great | 15:12 |
| *** Leonr has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:12 | |
| *** topol has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:13 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, still burning through the list trying to sort some of them out | 15:13 |
| *** changbl has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:14 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so pushing up reviews or kicking them out as I go through :) | 15:14 |
| *** terriyu has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:14 | |
| BobBall | perfect | 15:14 |
| BobBall | I'm not sure we'll have time to work on specific bugs ATM unless there is something you want to highlight | 15:14 |
| BobBall | I want to bring down our tempest exclusion list | 15:14 |
| *** rramirez has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:14 | |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, that sounds good | 15:15 |
| *** sushils has quit IRC | 15:15 | |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing major I don't hink | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | think^ | 15:15 |
| BobBall | I'm not aware of anything either | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, how is the load on your compute VM during the test run? | 15:15 |
| BobBall | could do moer | 15:15 |
| BobBall | more* | 15:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | I noticed it uses quite a lot of memory these days | 15:15 |
| BobBall | only passing 3 CPUs | 15:15 |
| BobBall | devstack pulls in a load | 15:15 |
| BobBall | can't run tempest with anything less than 8GB :( | 15:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, but the memory in the domU compute node, does that have 8 GB? | 15:16 |
| BobBall | things just run at a crawl | 15:16 |
| BobBall | for the tests, yes | 15:16 |
| BobBall | if you're just running compute rather than devstack you don't need anything like it | 15:16 |
| BobBall | as you know | 15:16 |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| *** branen has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:17 | |
| *** topol has quit IRC | 15:18 | |
| *** Linz has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:18 | |
| *** rramirez has left #openstack-meeting | 15:18 | |
| *** matsuhashi has quit IRC | 15:18 | |
| *** bruff has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just wondering about how to speed that up | 15:19 |
| *** afazekas has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I found a way to reduce the api workers a bit, which helped with memory usage, we could try some bits of that out | 15:20 |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, just curious, what memory does compute have? | 15:20 |
| *** fnaval has quit IRC | 15:21 | |
| BobBall | again, it's devstack | 15:21 |
| BobBall | so it's more than just compute | 15:21 |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:21 | |
| johnthetubaguy | agreed, I mean the DomU vm | 15:22 |
| BobBall | 4G total | 15:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so DomU gets 4 GB? | 15:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | running devstack bits | 15:22 |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:22 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 15:22 | |
| johnthetubaguy | just wondering if its swapping during the tests | 15:22 |
| BobBall | yes | 15:22 |
| BobBall | not much, no | 15:22 |
| BobBall | but a bit | 15:22 |
| BobBall | We upped the ram a couple of times to make it not swap | 15:23 |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:23 | |
| *** paragan has quit IRC | 15:23 | |
| *** paragan has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:23 | |
| johnthetubaguy | OK | 15:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | just wondering about quick speed ups | 15:23 |
| *** Mandell has quit IRC | 15:23 | |
| johnthetubaguy | seems to be running many more workers these days | 15:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I guess we are all done for today? | 15:23 |
| BobBall | think so yes | 15:24 |
| BobBall | many more workers though? | 15:24 |
| *** Macaveli has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:24 | |
| *** sgordon has left #openstack-meeting | 15:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | conductor and compute, etc | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | and api | 15:25 |
| BobBall | oh I see | 15:25 |
| *** imsurit has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | running many python process for each service, not strictly needed, but will up the memory usage | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | in theory should make some things faster, but we are running with less ram | 15:25 |
| BobBall | indeed | 15:25 |
| BobBall | and LOTS of threads for each too | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, if only python did that sort of thing | 15:26 |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:26 | |
| BobBall | ok - I've got to run | 15:26 |
| BobBall | talk next week. | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | me too | 15:26 |
| *** rramirez has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:26 | |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 15:26 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 15:26:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-03-12-15.01.html | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-03-12-15.01.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-03-12-15.01.log.html | 15:26 |
| *** chandan_kumar has quit IRC | 15:26 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** chandan_kumar has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:28 | |
| *** chandan_kumar has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** tobi3 has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:28 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:28 | |
| *** tobi1 has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** cnesa has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:31 | |
| *** cjellick has quit IRC | 15:31 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:31 | |
| *** ZZpablosan is now known as pablosan | 15:31 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:31 | |
| *** pablosan has quit IRC | 15:32 | |
| *** cjellick has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:32 | |
| *** pablosan has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:32 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC | 15:33 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:34 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has quit IRC | 15:35 | |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 15:35 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 15:38 | |
| *** garyk has quit IRC | 15:39 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:39 | |
| *** saju_m has quit IRC | 15:40 | |
| *** xuhanp has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| *** eharney has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| *** coolsvap has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:41 | |
| *** fnaval has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:43 | |
| *** bruff has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:43 | |
| *** tanisdl has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:46 | |
| *** Linz has quit IRC | 15:46 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 15:47 | |
| *** chaochin has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:48 | |
| *** skolathur has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:48 | |
| *** joel-coffman has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:50 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:50 | |
| *** gdebreczeni has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:51 | |
| *** yamahata has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| *** BobBall has left #openstack-meeting | 15:52 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| *** tanisdl has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| *** salv-orlando_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:54 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has left #openstack-meeting | 15:54 | |
| *** tanisdl has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:54 | |
| *** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:55 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** salv-orlando_ is now known as salv-orlando | 15:56 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** mdbooth has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:56 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:57 | |
| *** bswartz has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:57 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 15:58 | |
| *** che-arne has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:58 | |
| *** gyee has quit IRC | 15:59 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 15:59 | |
| *** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:00 | |
| *** reed has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:00 | |
| *** glenng has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:00 | |
| *** spzala has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** bruff has left #openstack-meeting | 16:00 | |
| *** Tross has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:01 | |
| *** rramirez has quit IRC | 16:02 | |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:02 | |
| *** salv-orlando has quit IRC | 16:02 | |
| *** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:03 | |
| *** sadasu_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:03 | |
| *** yassine has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** browne has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:03 | |
| *** akerr has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:03 | |
| *** akerr has left #openstack-meeting | 16:04 | |
| *** sadasu_ has quit IRC | 16:04 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:04 | |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 16:04 | |
| hartsocks | Meeting reminder… http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140312T1700 | 16:05 |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:07 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 16:07 | |
| *** glenng has left #openstack-meeting | 16:08 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 16:08 | |
| *** rdmcnair has left #openstack-meeting | 16:09 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:11 | |
| *** sushils has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:12 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:13 | |
| *** rbrady is now known as rbrady-afk | 16:13 | |
| *** joel-coffman has quit IRC | 16:14 | |
| *** sushils__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:14 | |
| *** bdpayne has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:14 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 16:15 | |
| *** dburmistrov has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:16 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:17 | |
| *** sushils has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** skolathur has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:18 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:18 | |
| *** nati_ueno has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
| *** gokrokve_ has quit IRC | 16:25 | |
| *** rossk has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:26 | |
| *** devlaps has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:26 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 16:27 | |
| *** rmoe has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:29 | |
| *** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:30 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:30 | |
| *** rbowen is now known as rcb_lunch | 16:31 | |
| *** paragan has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** Fdot_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:34 | |
| *** saikrishna_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:35 | |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** nacim has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** jlibosva has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** nacim has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:36 | |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:36 | |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 16:37 | |
| *** Fdot has quit IRC | 16:38 | |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:38 | |
| *** hemnafk is now known as hemna | 16:38 | |
| *** swat30 has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:39 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 16:40 | |
| *** amcrn has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:42 | |
| *** reed has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 16:47 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:48 | |
| *** rbrady-afk is now known as rbrady | 16:48 | |
| *** MaxV_ has quit IRC | 16:48 | |
| *** vuil has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:48 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:48 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:49 | |
| *** nacim has quit IRC | 16:50 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:50 | |
| *** comay has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:50 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:51 | |
| *** pvaneck has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:51 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:52 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 16:53 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:53 | |
| *** chaochin has left #openstack-meeting | 16:55 | |
| *** chaochin has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:55 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 16:56 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:57 | |
| *** bauzas has quit IRC | 16:58 | |
| *** cody-somerville has quit IRC | 16:58 | |
| *** colinmcnamara has joined #openstack-meeting | 16:59 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 17:00 | |
| *** pcm__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:00 | |
| hartsocks | #startmeeting vmwareapi | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 17:00:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hartsocks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| *** arnaud has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** ygbo has quit IRC | 17:00 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vmwareapi)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vmwareapi' | 17:00 |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 17:00 | |
| hartsocks | Hi folks. Who's around? | 17:00 |
| arnaud | o/ | 17:00 |
| browne | Eric from VMware | 17:00 |
| chaochin | hi | 17:00 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:00 | |
| * mdbooth is here | 17:01 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI#Agenda | 17:01 |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:01 | |
| *** rajdeep has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:02 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:02 | |
| *** rramirez has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:02 | |
| hartsocks | Let's touch blueprints today, should be short… move to bugs… then open discussion. Sound good? | 17:02 |
| *** neelashah has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| arnaud | ok | 17:03 |
| *** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| hartsocks | #topic blueprints | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "blueprints (Meeting topic: vmwareapi)" | 17:03 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse | 17:03 |
| *** cody-somerville_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| *** cody-somerville_ has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** cody-somerville_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| *** tjones has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| *** sballe has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| *** balajiiyer has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| hartsocks | Top half of the etherpad, we're tracking the Blueprints (new features) for IceHouse. | 17:03 |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:03 | |
| *** safchain has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| hartsocks | Only two BP for Nova made it in during the whole icehouse development cycle. | 17:04 |
| mdbooth | hartsocks: Did I miss something, or didn't image cache management make it? | 17:04 |
| *** harlowja_away is now known as harlowja | 17:04 | |
| hartsocks | :-) | 17:04 |
| *** balajiiyer1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:04 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-image-cache-management | 17:04 |
| *** jmontemayor has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: Currently approved but waiting on passing tests for merge last I checked a few minutes ago. | 17:04 |
| mdbooth | Ok, interesting | 17:05 |
| mdbooth | The changes got in, but the blueprint isn't approved | 17:05 |
| hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56416/ | 17:05 |
| *** jmontemayor has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:05 | |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: that would be a "bug" in the process then. | 17:05 |
| *** nati_ueno has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:06 | |
| hartsocks | heh. Didn't spot that the BP is marked "next" still. | 17:06 |
| mdbooth | You commented on the mailing list thread about changing that process, so I guess I don't need to point it out :) | 17:06 |
| hartsocks | slightly off topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79363/ | 17:06 |
| mdbooth | Indeed | 17:07 |
| tjones | im split-brained right now. ping me if you need me | 17:07 |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: that's where the start of changing the process begins... | 17:07 |
| hartsocks | tjones: cool. Just fyi on that blueprint process change… | 17:07 |
| hartsocks | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-iso-boot <- our other FFE winner | 17:07 |
| *** balajiiyer has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77965/ <- approved for merge but blocked by failing tests right now | 17:08 |
| *** afazekas has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:09 | |
| *** afazekas has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| hartsocks | So that's our two features to merge. | 17:09 |
| *** gokrokve_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:09 | |
| *** neelashah has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| *** ssurana has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:09 | |
| *** jasondotstar has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:09 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:09 | |
| hartsocks | Anything else feature related has to be moved to Juno now. So I'm told we should have a very active Juno-1 milestone for this group. | 17:09 |
| hartsocks | Questions, comments? | 17:10 |
| *** sballe has quit IRC | 17:10 | |
| *** reed has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:10 | |
| mdbooth | About Icehouse or Juno? | 17:10 |
| hartsocks | Let's focus on icehouse for now. | 17:11 |
| *** andreaf has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:11 | |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| chaochin | hartsocks: when will we start to evaluate Juno blueprint? | 17:12 |
| mdbooth | What's the priority for getting those Icehouse blueprints approved? | 17:12 |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 17:12 | |
| mdbooth | The process has already been subverted | 17:12 |
| mdbooth | So I guess it would just be a cleanup exercise | 17:12 |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 17:12 | |
| hartsocks | chaochin: this is a part of the process that has been a bit screwy for me the last 2 cycles... | 17:12 |
| hartsocks | that is to say… | 17:12 |
| browne | question: so will some blueprints move from nova to oslo.vmare? | 17:12 |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:13 | |
| *** henrynash has quit IRC | 17:13 | |
| *** morganfainberg_Z is now known as morganfainberg | 17:13 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:13 | |
| hartsocks | chaochin: you can have a perfectly good blueprint for Juno but it will be -2 "hard" between FF for one release and open season for the next. | 17:13 |
| arnaud | browne: at this point the priority is to refactor the code | 17:13 |
| hartsocks | chaochin: so blueprints are usually in limbo between now and the RC | 17:13 |
| arnaud | and integrate with oslo.vmware as it is today | 17:13 |
| *** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:13 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 17:14 |
| *** rcb_lunch is now known as rbowen | 17:14 | |
| hartsocks | browne: on the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse I've marked most of the BP that need to move away from Nova to oslo.vmware … | 17:15 |
| browne | ok | 17:15 |
| hartsocks | arnaud: we have an interesting problem, we have a mandate from Nova core to do a refactor of our driver, but that refactor might conflict with our own efforts for the oslo.vmware work. We will have to work that out with the Nova core over the next few weeks. | 17:16 |
| arnaud | I think we need to slow down blueprints that introduce more complexity in vmops | 17:16 |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:16 | |
| mdbooth | hartsocks: What's the conflict? | 17:16 |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: I've been told that the deferred BP that "just missed" icehouse-3 will be first to be considered for Juno-1 | 17:16 |
| *** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:17 | |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: however, I feel this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56416/ should be a cautionary tale for all of us. | 17:17 |
| *** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:17 | |
| *** luqas has quit IRC | 17:17 | |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: a fool learns from experience, a wise man learns from history. | 17:17 |
| mdbooth | And everybody else uses a bit of both | 17:18 |
| *** luqas has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:18 | |
| vuil | the vsan bp has among its series of patches a significant one that integrates nova with oslo.vmware | 17:18 |
| hartsocks | Well, we should make use of both since we have it now. :-) | 17:18 |
| *** rramirez has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| vuil | I think that is an important one to get going first. | 17:18 |
| *** kmartin has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| *** luqas has quit IRC | 17:18 | |
| vuil | it starts to the process, and eliminates more code that we can be concurrently stepping on. | 17:19 |
| arnaud | the vsan patch is the most important to get at this point: I agree with vuil | 17:19 |
| mdbooth | I feel like the oslo integration is going to be the most disruptive | 17:19 |
| mdbooth | So it should go first | 17:19 |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:19 | |
| vuil | yeah. It informs the rest of the refactoring work too. | 17:19 |
| *** bauzas has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:19 | |
| *** balajiiyer1 has left #openstack-meeting | 17:19 | |
| hartsocks | Actually, we have been told by Nova core to make this FOB: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor … should we link the two? | 17:19 |
| arnaud | hartsocks: I think this is part 2 | 17:20 |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:20 | |
| *** ssurana1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:20 | |
| hartsocks | arnaud: I can make the two dependent on each other if folks feel that's best for the sanity of the driver. | 17:20 |
| mdbooth | Yeah, I think oslo comes first | 17:20 |
| vuil | btw I have started work on that, mostly coz the branch complexity in spawn has gotten to me as I rebase the vsan patches. | 17:20 |
| arnaud | mdbooth: +1 | 17:20 |
| hartsocks | vuil: link to your BP? | 17:21 |
| *** afazekas has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:21 | |
| vuil | you mean vsan? | 17:21 |
| mdbooth | vuil: The spawn refactor is complex, though, because there are so many things which can hang on it | 17:21 |
| vuil | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-vsan-support | 17:21 |
| mdbooth | Even from an internal nova pov | 17:21 |
| *** ssurana has quit IRC | 17:22 | |
| mdbooth | Like fixes to BDM | 17:22 |
| hartsocks | vuil: the part where you import oslo.vmware not vsan. | 17:22 |
| mdbooth | Moving to nova objects | 17:22 |
| vuil | well it was offered as part of the vsan bp. | 17:22 |
| mdbooth | Majorly refactoring image cache handling now it has its own class | 17:22 |
| vuil | kinda was a prerequisite coz vsan needs the functionality in oslo.vmwre | 17:22 |
| hartsocks | okay, I need you to break those apart, or place the oslo.vmware work under the BP I just listed or we'll be blocked. | 17:23 |
| browne | agree | 17:23 |
| vuil | which, the spawn-refactor one? | 17:23 |
| hartsocks | yes. | 17:23 |
| hartsocks | I think you have two equally sane courses of action... | 17:23 |
| hartsocks | 1. break open the import of oslo.vmware and make it its own BP | 17:23 |
| hartsocks | 2. break open the import of oslo.vmware and make it a partial implementation of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor | 17:24 |
| vuil | I don't see why that would be the case, it does not really deal with refactoring spawn. It's just a good first thing to do before we even attempt to refactot. | 17:24 |
| *** Mandell has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:24 | |
| vuil | Pretty sure the cores would understand once they see it. | 17:24 |
| hartsocks | Okay, then I will push https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor first and you can rebase vsan on top of that. | 17:24 |
| hartsocks | The word is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor is going first. | 17:24 |
| hartsocks | I'm not dictating that. | 17:24 |
| mdbooth | We can work on the spawn refactor concurrently, as they probably won't step on each other architecturally | 17:25 |
| mdbooth | However, we shouldn't try to get it reviewed until it's rebased on top of the oslo move | 17:25 |
| *** Fdot_ has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
| *** tobi3 has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
| vuil | mbooth: +1 | 17:25 |
| hartsocks | Okay. So these aren't dependent then? | 17:25 |
| *** tkay has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:25 | |
| mdbooth | They will be loosely dependent | 17:26 |
| hartsocks | My next question is should we bother to do https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-spawn-refactor in Nova or should we do it in oslo.vmware first? | 17:26 |
| vuil | the oslo.vmware touches lots of things, but mostly in fairly mechanical way. | 17:26 |
| hartsocks | (or is that a nonsense question?) | 17:26 |
| vuil | it's like global renames, you want to do it in one shot, then have the rest come in later. | 17:27 |
| *** thingee has left #openstack-meeting | 17:27 | |
| hartsocks | okay. | 17:27 |
| *** garyk has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:27 | |
| vuil | the refactor work can start concurrently, but what mbooth said. | 17:27 |
| hartsocks | So I planned on doing the spawn refactor quickly since I've been told it will block our other BP unless core get to see it happen. | 17:27 |
| hartsocks | This will be a very low-ambition refactor. | 17:28 |
| hartsocks | Just sub-methods and tests. Nothing fancy. | 17:28 |
| mdbooth | hartsocks: Is that worth it? | 17:28 |
| mdbooth | No point doing it twice. | 17:28 |
| arnaud | hartsocks: this will delay the actual refactor | 17:28 |
| browne | i think at this point we're discussing Juno planning, no? shouldn't we concentrate on icehouse? | 17:29 |
| *** Fdot has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:29 | |
| hartsocks | *lol* | 17:29 |
| hartsocks | good point. | 17:29 |
| hartsocks | tabling blueprint talk for now unless there's a strong objection. | 17:30 |
| * hartsocks waits | 17:30 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:30 | |
| *** rramirez has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:30 | |
| hartsocks | #topic bugs | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: vmwareapi)" | 17:30 | |
| hartsocks | back on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware-subteam-icehouse I've added a critical bugs section | 17:31 |
| *** jcoufal has quit IRC | 17:31 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1290807 | 17:31 |
| tjones | ok i am back | 17:32 |
| tjones | sorry | 17:32 |
| hartsocks | per our rules for Importance we can't list https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1290807 as "critical" so I've mapped it appropriately. | 17:32 |
| hartsocks | tjones: hey. Just talking bugs. | 17:32 |
| tjones | so those 2 are not on russells list for RC - so they won't block but we can get them in as long as we do it fast | 17:33 |
| hartsocks | This appears to be a critical regression introduced by performance "improvements" | 17:33 |
| mdbooth | hartsocks: cf datastore browser cache | 17:33 |
| hartsocks | ? | 17:34 |
| *** asselin__ has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** dprince has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| hartsocks | je ne comprehende pas | 17:34 |
| *** kmartin has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:34 | |
| tjones | which one ? resize or delete? | 17:34 |
| mdbooth | hartsocks: Another object cache, which could potentially be broken by a change of object name? | 17:34 |
| *** Tross has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| hartsocks | mdbooth: yes, one of my favorite (and very commonly seen) problems. | 17:34 |
| *** bureado has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:34 | |
| *** I159_ has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** I159 has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| hartsocks | tjones first one on the list is a regresson | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | second on the list is | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1289397 | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | which is either just nutty or really bad. | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | That is to say, it's either something silly in the user's environment or we have another big regression. | 17:35 |
| hartsocks | I haven't had time to validate it. | 17:35 |
| tjones | that one is not assigned - so we need to get someone on it | 17:36 |
| mdbooth | Have you read the comments? | 17:36 |
| mdbooth | issue is not related to vmdk. issue related to nova only. | 17:36 |
| browne | 1289397 is currently incomplete. | 17:36 |
| * mdbooth doesn't know how much weight that carries | 17:36 | |
| browne | probably need more details on what image was used | 17:36 |
| hartsocks | Yeah. If it's Nova proper it's critical. If it's us then it's critical/high… | 17:36 |
| browne | oh debian-2.6.32-i686 | 17:37 |
| hartsocks | er… high/critical (we don't get to do "critical" when it's only one driver) | 17:37 |
| hartsocks | Yeah. If someone can just run down quickly if that's just FUD or if it's real I'd appreciate it. I'm running a couple on-fire things right now. | 17:37 |
| tjones | the issue is deleting a shutoff image? should be easy to repo' | 17:38 |
| tjones | logs would have been nice | 17:38 |
| *** openstackstatus has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| *** rajdeep has quit IRC | 17:38 | |
| hartsocks | yep. it's simple to reproduce or it's an environment specific bug. | 17:38 |
| *** openstackstatus has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:38 | |
| tjones | i'll take it | 17:39 |
| hartsocks | thanks. | 17:39 |
| *** Fdot has quit IRC | 17:39 | |
| *** julienvey has quit IRC | 17:39 | |
| hartsocks | Does anyone else have pet bugs they think will be *really* bad to see unfixed in icehouse? | 17:39 |
| *** elo1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:40 | |
| hartsocks | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 17:41 |
| hartsocks | okay so from now to the RC we're in bug-fix only mode on the master. | 17:41 |
| *** egallen has quit IRC | 17:42 | |
| tjones | hartsocks: i think this one should be closed with image cache in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1212790 | 17:42 |
| tjones | hartsocks: never mind | 17:42 |
| tjones | different issue | 17:42 |
| tjones | i mean image cache will fix the cleaning but not the "cannot delete file" thing | 17:43 |
| *** IlyaE has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| hartsocks | tjones: that "cannot delete file" thing turned out to be a disk performance issue that crops up if the user is simulating disks or using very non-performant hardware. | 17:44 |
| tjones | hartsocks: this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1240373 | 17:44 |
| mdbooth | tjones: Surely that wouldn't be an OpenStack thing if it's truly no longer in use | 17:44 |
| tjones | mdbooth: yes that is what i meant about the "cannot delete" thing | 17:44 |
| hartsocks | tjones: so 1212790 should just be closed it sounds like. | 17:45 |
| tjones | hartsocks: not an openstack bug | 17:46 |
| hartsocks | yeah. | 17:46 |
| hartsocks | "won't fix" | 17:46 |
| tjones | so i think we would like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1240373 in icehouse. i did not see that on your list | 17:47 |
| hartsocks | I've added that one. | 17:47 |
| tjones | also https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1235112 if we can | 17:47 |
| *** asselin has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:47 | |
| hartsocks | hmm… that's set at "medium" | 17:48 |
| hartsocks | should that be higher? | 17:48 |
| tjones | that's why i said "if we can" | 17:48 |
| tjones | it only affects people using iscsi - which has not been an issue so far | 17:48 |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
| hartsocks | it *seems* like it would be much more critical but if few people use the feature I guess it isn't. | 17:49 |
| *** sushils__ has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:49 | |
| tjones | eactly - but as soon as we have a customer who wants iscsi they are screwed | 17:49 |
| tjones | so .... | 17:49 |
| tjones | maybe it should be higher | 17:49 |
| *** rmoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:50 | |
| hartsocks | I just made it Medium/High because I can. | 17:50 |
| tjones | woo hoo | 17:50 |
| hartsocks | :-) | 17:50 |
| *** sushils has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:51 | |
| hartsocks | vuil: are you going to be able to deliver on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1240373 ? | 17:51 |
| *** rmoe has quit IRC | 17:51 | |
| hartsocks | vuil: does that conflict/coincide with your other vsan changes at all? | 17:51 |
| vuil | no not really. | 17:52 |
| vuil | for this there was not recourse for a while | 17:52 |
| vuil | but there was a recent BP that allows setting a virtual disk capacity size field in the image that we can leverage. | 17:52 |
| vuil | icehouse+ only thought | 17:52 |
| vuil | though | 17:52 |
| hartsocks | so… you can't fix the bug in icehouse then? | 17:53 |
| vuil | (digging… it's a glance bp) | 17:53 |
| vuil | for icehouse yes. | 17:53 |
| hartsocks | you can fix the bug in icehouse? | 17:53 |
| tjones | hartsocks: if time - lets go through this bug list for our bugs. we have a bunch https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 | 17:53 |
| vuil | I need to look into the bp further. | 17:54 |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 17:54 | |
| hartsocks | vuil: okay. update us next week. I will ping each bug we just listed until RC1 ships. | 17:54 |
| *** elo1 has quit IRC | 17:55 | |
| vuil | will do. fwiw bp I was referring to is (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/split-image-size) | 17:55 |
| hartsocks | hm 5 minutes. | 17:55 |
| hartsocks | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 as tjones mentioned … | 17:55 |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:56 | |
| hartsocks | So basically, we need to be sure anything critical to RC1 gets listed there. | 17:57 |
| *** reed has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| *** reed has joined #openstack-meeting | 17:57 | |
| hartsocks | Not sure what we can cover in 3 minutes so I'll just leave it at that. | 17:57 |
| browne | can i bring up something real quick | 17:58 |
| hartsocks | #topic open discussion | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: vmwareapi)" | 17:58 | |
| hartsocks | go for it | 17:58 |
| *** vkozhukalov has quit IRC | 17:58 | |
| browne | i liked to get the openstack-vmware channel registered for gerritbot. but in order to do so, people must be sure to leave the channel so we get ops on it | 17:58 |
| browne | so i'd ask that people please leave the channel prior to their weekend break | 17:59 |
| hartsocks | #action everyone log off of #openstack-vmware over the weekend so browne can do channel maintenance! | 17:59 |
| hartsocks | :-) | 18:00 |
| browne | thx | 18:00 |
| mdbooth | browne: Bring that up continuously on the channel throughout the week! | 18:00 |
| browne | mdbooth: will do | 18:00 |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| hartsocks | Okay. That's time. We're on #openstack-vmware where I'm sure much discussion will continue. | 18:00 |
| hartsocks | #end | 18:00 |
| hartsocks | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 18:00:54 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-03-12-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-03-12-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-03-12-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
| *** browne has left #openstack-meeting | 18:01 | |
| *** IlyaE has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:01 | |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| *** hartsocks has left #openstack-meeting | 18:02 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:03 | |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:03 | |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 18:04 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:04 | |
| *** crc32 has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:04 | |
| *** mdbooth has quit IRC | 18:05 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 18:06 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 18:07 | |
| *** derekh has quit IRC | 18:07 | |
| *** jgallard has quit IRC | 18:09 | |
| *** eghobo has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:09 | |
| *** digambar_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:10 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | there is no Neutron FWaaS sub team meeting today | 18:10 |
| *** tjones has left #openstack-meeting | 18:11 | |
| *** zns has quit IRC | 18:11 | |
| *** jbrogan has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:12 | |
| *** digambar_ has quit IRC | 18:13 | |
| *** Macaveli has quit IRC | 18:14 | |
| *** tomoe_ has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 18:19 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:20 | |
| *** dvarga_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:20 | |
| *** dvarga has quit IRC | 18:22 | |
| *** Mandell has quit IRC | 18:23 | |
| *** ildikov_ has quit IRC | 18:25 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:27 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 18:28 | |
| banix | #help | 18:29 |
| *** saju_m has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** afazekas has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:30 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 18:30 | |
| *** otherwiseguy has quit IRC | 18:32 | |
| *** zns has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:32 | |
| *** tango has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:35 | |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:36 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville | 18:39 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:39 | |
| *** jasondotstar has quit IRC | 18:40 | |
| *** sdake has quit IRC | 18:41 | |
| *** sdake_ has quit IRC | 18:42 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:42 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:42 | |
| *** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:44 | |
| *** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:45 | |
| *** andreaf has quit IRC | 18:45 | |
| *** torgomatic has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:45 | |
| *** weshay has quit IRC | 18:45 | |
| *** uma has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:46 | |
| *** uma has left #openstack-meeting | 18:47 | |
| *** Mandell has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:47 | |
| *** rbowen has quit IRC | 18:48 | |
| *** portante has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:49 | |
| *** gvernik has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:50 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:50 | |
| *** johnthetubaguy1 has quit IRC | 18:53 | |
| *** rbowen has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:53 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:55 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:56 | |
| *** lpabon has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:57 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 18:57 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 18:58 | |
| *** zaitcev has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:58 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ is now known as SumitNaiksatam | 18:58 | |
| *** rpothier_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 18:58 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 19:00 |
| notmyname | hello everyone | 19:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 19:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:00 |
| notmyname | who's here? | 19:00 |
| portante | o/ | 19:00 |
| acoles- | hello | 19:00 |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| *** gdrudy_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:00 | |
| *** peluse has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:01 | |
| torgomatic | . | 19:01 |
| lpabon | hi | 19:01 |
| *** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:01 | |
| peluse | yo | 19:01 |
| *** randallburt has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:01 | |
| notmyname | all right. thanks for coming | 19:01 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:01 |
| notmyname | agenda there ^ | 19:01 |
| notmyname | jsut a few things | 19:01 |
| *** tdasilva has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:02 | |
| *** rpothier_ has left #openstack-meeting | 19:02 | |
| notmyname | but first, thanks to daylight savings time, this is now the current meeting time | 19:02 |
| notmyname | glad you found it :-) | 19:02 |
| *** randallburt has left #openstack-meeting | 19:02 | |
| peluse | didn't change for me :) | 19:02 |
| acoles- | nor me:) | 19:02 |
| portante | show offs | 19:03 |
| zaitcev | Anyone who has to file flight plans knows about UTC | 19:03 |
| portante | ;) | 19:03 |
| notmyname | well, just for those of us in most of the US where the government is legislating daylight to account for 19th century farming techniques ;-) | 19:03 |
| *** saikrishna_ has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:03 | |
| notmyname | ok, we;ve all been busy with stuff, so let' get started :-) | 19:04 |
| notmyname | first up | 19:04 |
| notmyname | #topic storage policies | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storage policies (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:04 | |
| notmyname | this, as everyone knows is a big deal. and we're very close :-) | 19:04 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: peluse: updates? | 19:04 |
| *** clayg has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:04 | |
| clayg | is this the right place? | 19:05 |
| peluse | on my end: ssync, ready I think for final review thanks to review by clayg yesterday. Need to get through some Jenkins hurdles though | 19:05 |
| torgomatic | still working on the reconciler with clayg; I think the daemon that consumes the queue is probably working, and now it's time to work on putting things in that queue | 19:05 |
| peluse | also on ym end: acct rollup (head) patch to report usage. Ready to go after I rebase once a dependency from torgomatic is done | 19:05 |
| notmyname | peluse: looks like jenkins has been having some trouble lately. | 19:05 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: that's option A. are you still going to do option B too? | 19:06 |
| peluse | and finally for me... one helper patch for torgaomatic that is ready once Jenkins works | 19:06 |
| *** pcm__ has left #openstack-meeting | 19:06 | |
| notmyname | peluse: where do you need us to start looking at reviews? | 19:07 |
| notmyname | which patch? | 19:07 |
| peluse | I'll list them... | 19:07 |
| peluse | ssync: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65347/ | 19:07 |
| peluse | ready now | 19:07 |
| zaitcev | throw on wiki maybe? | 19:07 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: yeah, probably once this one is done | 19:08 |
| zaitcev | We used to have "priority review list" | 19:08 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: ok | 19:08 |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ya, it's still there. but I haven't updated it in a week or two | 19:08 |
| peluse | and two others that have dependencies on reconclier stuff that torgomatic is doing so those should probably hold off more reivews | 19:08 |
| notmyname | basically, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/swift+branch:feature/ec,n,z ;-) | 19:08 |
| notmyname | peluse: ok | 19:08 |
| peluse | but they've all been reviewd at least by one core already and are pretty solid I think | 19:08 |
| clayg | torgomatic: it *was* working in reconciler-4 - I still need to merge with reconciler-5 | 19:08 |
| notmyname | peluse: torgomatic: what do you need? do you have any blockers? | 19:09 |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:09 | |
| clayg | notmyname: I bet they're all in trello | 19:09 |
| peluse | I just have ssync that is ready now for final review (Jenkins still churning on it for some unrleated flakiness though) | 19:09 |
| clayg | I'm going to take a stab at reviewing peluse's 409 patch | 19:09 |
| *** rramirez has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| notmyname | https://trello.com/b/LlvIFIQs/swift-erasure-codes-and-storage-policies | 19:09 |
| notmyname | clayg: thansk | 19:09 |
| peluse | clayg: its very small | 19:09 |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:10 | |
| peluse | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79731/ | 19:10 |
| notmyname | anything else to report or questions on these patches or ongoing work? | 19:11 |
| peluse | other than that we need to rebase EC which I'll do after the meeting and then also I can run more tests on a real cluster | 19:11 |
| *** caleb_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:11 | |
| clayg | zaitcev: did anyone look at the account/container-backend refactor for you yet? | 19:11 |
| notmyname | clayg: zaitcev: hang on. we'll get there | 19:11 |
| * portante hangs his head in shame ... | 19:11 | |
| notmyname | anything else on the storage policy patches? | 19:12 |
| peluse | dont think so | 19:12 |
| zaitcev | I'm mostly nibbing them on the sides still. Looked at ssync, it seemed fine. | 19:12 |
| clayg | torgomatic: peluse: can we re-order the stuff in trello so the sp stuff is up top and ec is at the bottom? | 19:12 |
| notmyname | ok, so for the fun part of planning these thing...schedules | 19:12 |
| clayg | ick | 19:12 |
| torgomatic | clayg: I don't have a problem with that | 19:13 |
| peluse | yup, want me to do it? | 19:13 |
| notmyname | we're getting close to the openstack icehouse integrated release. which means we'll need a swift release there (ie 1.14) | 19:13 |
| clayg | peluse: yes please | 19:13 |
| notmyname | the goal is to include storage policies in that release | 19:13 |
| notmyname | but | 19:13 |
| *** ndipanov is now known as ndipanov_gone | 19:13 | |
| peluse | cool, I'll make a seprate column for EC on treollo for now so its super clear | 19:13 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:13 | |
| * clayg hugs peluse | 19:13 | |
| notmyname | we cannot (and will not knowingly) include it if it's not done | 19:13 |
| notmyname | it's done when it's done | 19:14 |
| *** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:14 | |
| peluse | sooooo close... we can't not get it done | 19:14 |
| notmyname | but, it's also very good for us as a community to have it in the icehouse release | 19:14 |
| *** cnesa has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| *** tongli has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| notmyname | why? because all the non-technical parts of the community and ecosystem will be able to talk about it and use it | 19:15 |
| torgomatic | peluse: that sounds like a challenge ;) | 19:15 |
| peluse | indeed! | 19:15 |
| portante | right ec is easy once sp is done | 19:15 |
| zaitcev | really | 19:16 |
| peluse | yipes, I didn't say that! | 19:16 |
| portante | ;) | 19:16 |
| torgomatic | it'll be done in the future... if it has to be done within the next N seconds, I recommend accelerating to relativistic speeds | 19:16 |
| peluse | :) | 19:16 |
| portante | warp speed mr. sulu | 19:16 |
| *** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:17 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 19:17 | |
| notmyname | please, if there is anything that is blocking any part of this, let me or others know so we can help get it done | 19:17 |
| notmyname | and then there's the merge-to-master will will take all of us | 19:17 |
| notmyname | we've got about 4 weeks until the icehouse drop-dead date | 19:18 |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:18 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 19:18 | |
| zaitcev | if we discuss it at hackathon, we need to come into the room with general knowledge of the code | 19:18 |
| peluse | will do chief | 19:18 |
| notmyname | any other questions around this topic? | 19:18 |
| *** colinmcnamara has quit IRC | 19:18 | |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:19 | |
| notmyname | ok. moving on | 19:19 |
| notmyname | #topic "plugable back ends" ie DBBrokers | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""plugable back ends" ie DBBrokers (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:19 | |
| notmyname | zaitcev: clayg: portante: ok now you can talk about it :-) | 19:20 |
| *** zhiyan is now known as zhiyan_ | 19:20 | |
| zaitcev | ok... I thoght Acowles' sysmeta was next but I'll take it | 19:20 |
| notmyname | it's an unordered list :-) | 19:20 |
| acoles- | zaitcev: go for it | 19:20 |
| clayg | zaitcev: I do sorta skim over the patch from time to time trying to let is soak in, I think I'm sorta getting my head around it (maybe) | 19:21 |
| *** swifterdarrell has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:21 | |
| zaitcev | Paul was going to trade a review of 47713 for reviews on SP, so I tried to keep up. | 19:21 |
| peluse | zaitcev: I owe it another once over for sure since your last rebase | 19:21 |
| peluse | zaitcev: and I do greatly apprecaite the SP reviews! | 19:22 |
| peluse | will take another look first thing tomrrow (today is booked with meetings) | 19:22 |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 19:22 | |
| zaitcev | Initially I was really timid in refactoring transformations but it was pointed several times that resulting code was junk. Current PBE still contains things that I had to explain in comments. | 19:22 |
| zaitcev | But generally each revision looks nicer, but harder to prove that it does not regress | 19:23 |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:23 | |
| *** colinmcnamara has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:23 | |
| peluse | zaitcev: what kind of regression testing have you done/plan on doing? | 19:23 |
| zaitcev | peluse: Honestly, only functional tests and using the cluster, but I do not have real users. Like it seems like there's not even 1 manifested objects (they are all small). | 19:24 |
| portante | this is where we might want to push on unit and functional tests ahead of it to help with the regressions | 19:24 |
| clayg | portante: oh you know what would help with that - coverage reporting on functional tests! | 19:25 |
| notmyname | portante: ya | 19:25 |
| portante | yes | 19:25 |
| portante | for sp, ec and pbe it would help us breath easier | 19:25 |
| peluse | is someone working on that? (coverage reporting for functional tests) | 19:25 |
| portante | yes | 19:25 |
| notmyname | portante: what's the link? | 19:26 |
| portante | unfortunately, I am not driving it too hard, given my other work requirements | 19:26 |
| portante | sec | 19:26 |
| clayg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66108/ | 19:26 |
| notmyname | thanks clayg | 19:26 |
| portante | yeah, thanks! | 19:26 |
| clayg | oh uh.... | 19:26 |
| clayg | link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66108/ | 19:26 |
| clayg | i don't know how this place works | 19:26 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66108/ | 19:26 |
| notmyname | as portante said, that has the very nice benefit of helping out with the other stuff going on too | 19:27 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: do you have any more specific questions or requests about PBE? | 19:28 |
| zaitcev | I'll have a closer look. | 19:28 |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| notmyname | zaitcev: what, specifically, do you need from us? jsut reviews? | 19:28 |
| portante | clayg, torgomatic, chmouel, notmyname : thanks for taking to look at it so far | 19:29 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: Yes, reviews. If I drag it to hackathon, it won't have time because SP and EC are more important. | 19:29 |
| notmyname | well, I hope SP and (most of ) EC is done by then! | 19:29 |
| zaitcev | notmyname: I am available at any time, but just beating it with inline comments would do fine too. | 19:29 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ok, cool | 19:29 |
| *** swifterdarrell has left #openstack-meeting | 19:29 | |
| *** swifterdarrell has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:30 | |
| notmyname | #topic object sysmeta | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "object sysmeta (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:30 | |
| notmyname | acoles-: you're up | 19:30 |
| acoles- | ok | 19:30 |
| acoles- | i just wanted to explain the motivation behind the patch i put up today | 19:30 |
| acoles- | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79991/ | 19:30 |
| *** zns has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| *** colinmcnamara has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| notmyname | this is the extension to the account+container sysmeta alreayd out, right? | 19:30 |
| acoles- | there's a couple of mware patches pending that are stashing metadata against objects... | 19:31 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:31 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ is now known as SumitNaiksatam | 19:31 | |
| acoles- | migration and encryption | 19:31 |
| acoles- | the original sysmeta patch dropped support for objects... | 19:31 |
| *** colinmcnamara has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:32 | |
| acoles- | 'cos the POST semantics are hard to get right. so this patch at least adds sysmeta for PUTs to objects, as a start | 19:32 |
| *** walterheck has quit IRC | 19:32 | |
| torgomatic | how's it keep that stuff up-to-date on object POST? read-modify-write? | 19:32 |
| *** afazekas has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:33 | |
| clayg | post-as-copy is so weird | 19:33 |
| acoles- | torgomatic: POST handled by copying existign sysmeta to .meta | 19:33 |
| swifterdarrell | torgomatic: "Support for modification of object system metadata with a POST request requires further work as discussed in the blueprint.” | 19:33 |
| clayg | it works, because "X-Newest" | 19:33 |
| acoles- | clayg: yes! | 19:33 |
| notmyname | well, that was my next question | 19:33 |
| clayg | i was being snarky | 19:33 |
| * peluse writes himself a note to go lookup what post as copy is one of these days... | 19:33 | |
| notmyname | acoles-: should this wait until post-as-copy is merged back into a "fast post"? | 19:33 |
| clayg | acoles-: did you test it with fast post? | 19:34 |
| notmyname | peluse: default today is that a post is rewritten as a COPY | 19:34 |
| * clayg dreams of the return of fast-post | 19:34 | |
| *** ildikov_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:34 | |
| acoles- | clayg: yes, test there for both fast and post-as-copy | 19:34 |
| peluse | hmmm, just like is sounds eh? | 19:34 |
| notmyname | peluse: pretty close :-0 | 19:34 |
| acoles- | notmyname: is post-as-copy going away? | 19:34 |
| *** krotscheck has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:34 | |
| clayg | acoles-: one can hope | 19:35 |
| notmyname | acoles-: well, there's been talk of unifying it back to the fast post methods | 19:35 |
| torgomatic | I had a thing at one point that I thought might get rid of post-as-copy, but then I learned ssync collapses .data and .meta files together when it replicates, so now I'm not sure what to do about that | 19:35 |
| notmyname | but I don't know if anyone has started typing on it | 19:35 |
| clayg | acoles-: i don't think anyone is working on it - yeah torgomatic has an idea | 19:35 |
| notmyname | acoles-: initially, I don't like the idea of supporting object sysmeta on PUT and not POST (I haven't looked at the patch yet). would getting rid of post-as-copy make it easier? | 19:36 |
| clayg | we should just give all metadata timestamps X-Object-Timestamp-Meta-Foo: XXXX and let the reciever suss it out with the on disk data | 19:36 |
| acoles- | notmyname: clayg: torgomatic: ok. i need to understand that direction more then because post as copy is particularly nasty to work around | 19:36 |
| notmyname | acoles-: perhaps you could do the post-as-copy removal and then the object sysmeta? :-) | 19:36 |
| * clayg knows acoles- is the man for the job! | 19:37 | |
| acoles- | Apart from today's patch I also dumped some ideas for POST into wiki... | 19:37 |
| acoles- | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/object-system-metadata | 19:37 |
| notmyname | acoles-: I bet you could even get some comments from clayg and torgomatic and others if you were doing the typing :-) | 19:37 |
| acoles- | and I'm happy to try coding it up but I'd value feedback on the wiki | 19:38 |
| * clayg reading now | 19:38 | |
| notmyname | acoles-: cool. thanks | 19:38 |
| acoles- | ...'cos i'm newer than most of you to the code :) | 19:38 |
| notmyname | acoles-: is that a good place to stop the obj sysmeta conversation for this meeting? or do you have something else on it? | 19:39 |
| acoles- | no more. just a heads up and plea for feedback. thanks | 19:39 |
| notmyname | kk | 19:39 |
| clayg | acoles-: consider awareness raised! | 19:39 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 19:39 |
| zaitcev | okay | 19:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:39 | |
| notmyname | acoles-: thanks for spending some time reviewing the migration middleware | 19:39 |
| acoles- | notmyname: np | 19:40 |
| peluse | question: ssync is listed in conf file samples as 'not production' - are these plans for when this will be consisdreed production, icehouse maybe? | 19:40 |
| notmyname | also, everyone note that there's been some discussion about getting rid of blueprints and using text files in a git repo (managed via gerrit) instead | 19:40 |
| zaitcev | so, about that container alias thing. Looks like Clay thinks benefit/cost is not good enough | 19:40 |
| notmyname | peluse: I think it's mostly waiting on RAX to say "yup, we're running it everywhere now" | 19:40 |
| clayg | word from RAX is that that ssync is doing pretty good for them! | 19:40 |
| peluse | OK, yeah I asked gholt and he said they use it in productions clusters now so | 19:41 |
| notmyname | clayg: ya, it's running in 1 to 2 of their clusters now | 19:41 |
| clayg | I play it in dev from time to time - it's real easy with vagrant-swift-all-in-one | 19:41 |
| peluse | was wondering if that criteria is met | 19:41 |
| zaitcev | just make it default for Icehouse and see what happens | 19:41 |
| swifterdarrell | zaitcev: haha | 19:41 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: clayg: need discussion in here (ie additional to gerrit) on container alias middleware? | 19:41 |
| clayg | zaitcev: well there's that idea... | 19:41 |
| peluse | kidding aside, I think it'd be good to put a stake in the ground | 19:41 |
| clayg | sure! I don't like how it can hide data. | 19:42 |
| *** gdebreczeni has quit IRC | 19:42 | |
| clayg | ok, well let's put the stake in juno and see if we can some more testing on it | 19:42 |
| notmyname | peluse: I don't think we'll do it for icehouse, but probably sometime after that | 19:42 |
| zaitcev | I don't see how alias hides, since the original is still available | 19:42 |
| notmyname | peluse: eg circa 1.15 or 1.16 | 19:42 |
| peluse | cool... thanks | 19:42 |
| clayg | zaitcev: yeah it's *available* but not *accessible* (until you remove the alias) | 19:43 |
| *** tanisdl has quit IRC | 19:43 | |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 19:43 | |
| clayg | zaitcev: and by "available" I mean mostly counting up to your byte counts, but when you head the container you see different byte counts... it's just sorta very strange | 19:43 |
| zaitcev | clayg: I don't understand that code, then. I thought adding an alias did absolutely nothing to the original container. | 19:44 |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:44 | |
| clayg | zaitcev: it makes it so that when you make reqeusts to that container you see something else | 19:44 |
| clayg | it's a little liar | 19:44 |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:44 | |
| notmyname | clayg: also known as a symlink? ;-) | 19:44 |
| acoles- | clayg: zaitcev: its tricky because there's no way to atomically test for empty container and set alias pointer, so there's always a risk of an object getting hidden in the aliased container | 19:44 |
| clayg | notmyname: NO! symlinks can't have *real* data in the them too! | 19:44 |
| *** rramirez has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:45 | |
| notmyname | oh yikes. ya, that does sound scary | 19:45 |
| clayg | you can have a symlink that has data IN it point you somewhere else so you can't get to the data | 19:45 |
| peluse | whats the use case for container aliasing? | 19:45 |
| clayg | peluse: something about --os-storage-url is too complicated | 19:45 |
| zaitcev | wait, alias used to check if the aliased container had counts and rejected setting alias | 19:45 |
| clayg | zaitcev: yeah i suggested that as a possible fix up to my concern | 19:45 |
| clayg | zaitcev: but it cirtianly doesn't work that way | 19:45 |
| acoles- | zaitcev: um, i commented that the check wasn't guaranteed if you have concurrent object PUT | 19:46 |
| clayg | I think anytime you go to pull alias out of sysmeta you should check the container_info and bail if it's non-zero | 19:46 |
| peluse | OK, found use cases: https://github.com/cschwede/swift-containeralias | 19:46 |
| *** topol has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:47 | |
| clayg | I just think the benifit/complexity ratio is off - most of the benifit could be got at other ways | 19:47 |
| clayg | it's a cool hack - but maybe it doesn't belong in core | 19:47 |
| * clayg can be overruled, and would change his mind if there was a use-case that was unsolveable w/o this particular hack | 19:47 | |
| notmyname | sounds like good feedback | 19:48 |
| *** akuznetsov has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| notmyname | anything else that needs to be brought up in the meeting today? | 19:48 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:48 | |
| notmyname | ok | 19:49 |
| notmyname | thank you, all of you, for your hard work | 19:49 |
| *** imsurit has quit IRC | 19:49 | |
| notmyname | sign up for the summit if you haven't already | 19:49 |
| notmyname | your ATC code is only valid in the early reg period | 19:50 |
| *** otherwiseguy has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:50 | |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:50 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 19:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 19:50:24 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:50 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam_ is now known as SumitNaiksatam | 19:50 | |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-03-12-19.00.html | 19:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-03-12-19.00.txt | 19:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-03-12-19.00.log.html | 19:50 |
| *** clayg has left #openstack-meeting | 19:50 | |
| *** peluse has left #openstack-meeting | 19:50 | |
| *** portante has left #openstack-meeting | 19:50 | |
| *** gdrudy_ has left #openstack-meeting | 19:50 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:51 | |
| *** saurabhs has quit IRC | 19:52 | |
| *** zaitcev has left #openstack-meeting | 19:52 | |
| *** bgorski has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:54 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 19:55 | |
| *** arbylee has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:55 | |
| *** mspreitz has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:58 | |
| *** ErikB has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| *** randallburt has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:58 | |
| *** ErikB has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:58 | |
| *** tdasilva has left #openstack-meeting | 19:59 | |
| *** garyk has quit IRC | 19:59 | |
| *** tspatzier has joined #openstack-meeting | 19:59 | |
| *** dburmistrov has quit IRC | 19:59 | |
| *** dvarga_ has quit IRC | 20:00 | |
| *** rpothier_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:00 | |
| *** xyhuang has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:00 | |
| stevebaker | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 20:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| jpeeler | hi | 20:00 |
| tspatzier | hi all | 20:00 |
| randallburt | o/ | 20:00 |
| zaneb | o/ | 20:00 |
| bgorski | o/ | 20:00 |
| arbylee | o/ | 20:00 |
| sdake_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| stevebaker | shardy? | 20:01 |
| mspreitz | o/ | 20:01 |
| *** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:01 | |
| *** pas-ha has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:02 | |
| tango | o/ | 20:02 |
| pas-ha | o/ | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | no action items last week | 20:02 |
| shardy | o/ | 20:02 |
| shardy | sorry bit late | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | #topic Adding items to the agenda | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adding items to the agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:02 | |
| stevebaker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-3-12_2000_UTC.29 | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | anything to add? | 20:03 |
| mspreitz | AutoScaling and load balancers | 20:04 |
| mspreitz | that's one topic, the conjunction | 20:04 |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: done | 20:04 |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:04 | |
| stevebaker | #topic Tempest tests (and lack thereof) | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest tests (and lack thereof) (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:05 | |
| * radix arrives | 20:05 | |
| shardy | does anyone know anything about grenade? | 20:05 |
| mspreitz | Yeah. Are there tempest tests of autoscaling? | 20:05 |
| radix | mspreitz: I don't think so | 20:05 |
| zaneb | shardy: it's something to do with upgrade testing, right? | 20:05 |
| mspreitz | (My Yeah was about the topic, not grenade) | 20:06 |
| shardy | zaneb: yeah, we evidently need to integrate with it but I don't know where to start | 20:06 |
| radix | I don't really know anything at all about tempest or how its tests are defined or run, I shuold look into that | 20:06 |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| skraynev | o/ | 20:06 |
| stevebaker | The good news is that the heat-slow job is now gating and voting, the bad news is that it has taken us (me) a long time to get there and the current tests are superficial. sdague quite rightly gave us a D grade for our current integration test coverage | 20:06 |
| zaneb | shardy: is it just DB upgrades, or more than that? idk | 20:06 |
| shardy | radix: we do have some existing tempest tests you can look at as examples | 20:06 |
| SpamapS | o/ | 20:07 |
| * SpamapS is late | 20:07 | |
| shardy | zaneb: I have no idea, hence my question :) | 20:07 |
| radix | ok | 20:07 |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 20:07 | |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: there is a disabled autoscaling scenario test. I have a local rewrite which I need to resurrect | 20:07 |
| *** _nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:07 | |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: that would be good | 20:07 |
| radix | shardy: where are they? in the heat repo? | 20:08 |
| mspreitz | I am annoyed at the lack of testing of autoscaling. Will try to prod loose some local time to work on it... | 20:08 |
| shardy | radix: no, in the tempest repo ;) | 20:08 |
| radix | is there a wiki page for learning how to do tempest testing? | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | grenade runs tempest against havana, then does an upgrade to icehouse, then runs tempest again | 20:08 |
| SpamapS | So this is a wonderful time to push forward on tempest tests. | 20:08 |
| SpamapS | Especially if you fix bugs. If you fix a bug, write a tempest regression test. | 20:08 |
| mspreitz | I also am completely ignorant of how to write tempest tests. | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yes, and I'm going on the assumption that if there is no tempest test for it, the heat feature is broken | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | mspreitz it is pretty easy, the hardest part is learning how tempest works | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | the easiest way to learn how tempest works is to tryit out | 20:09 |
| mspreitz | WOuld the right approach for autoscaling be to factor into two pieces: one that tests whether alarms POST to the right URLs at the right times, and another to test whether hitting the webhook causes scaling? | 20:09 |
| SpamapS | yeah, we might want to put together a quick start for just running heat's tempest tests. | 20:09 |
| shardy | #action everyone to write tempest tests ;) | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | shardy iirc only the meetbot chair can record #actions :_) | 20:09 |
| zaneb | it basically uses all the same stuff we use for unit tests, but you don't do unit tests, just interact at the API level | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | there are two parts - api tests, and scenario tests | 20:10 |
| stevebaker | if you're looking for a test to write, we're tracking them as tempest tagged heat wishlist bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=tempest | 20:10 |
| *** caleb_ has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| shardy | mspreitz: the point of scenario testing AFAIK is to do more end-to-end user-scenario orientated testing | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | sceanrio tests are more complex use cases like launch a vm and storage, connect them together, and see if that works | 20:10 |
| stevebaker | I'll be writing some scenario tests for software config | 20:10 |
| *** andrew_plunk has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:10 | |
| shardy | mspreitz: there is also an API surface test which is more granular (test each action) | 20:10 |
| *** sarob has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:11 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 20:11 | |
| mspreitz | shardy: is that in tempest too? | 20:11 |
| stevebaker | I think all new tests should be scenario tests, that means you can use heatclient. And everything but the most trivial template is orchestrating a "scenario" | 20:11 |
| shardy | mspreitz: yes | 20:11 |
| *** jasond` has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:11 | |
| shardy | github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/orchestration/ | 20:11 |
| *** n0ano has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/scenario/orchestration | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | our api test coverage is pretty weak stevebaker | 20:12 |
| radix | shardy: thanks | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | it needs more attention | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | We should have a stretch goal to have documentation making it easy enough to do TDD with tempest tests btw. | 20:12 |
| *** weshay has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| shardy | SpamapS: TDD? | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | test driven development | 20:12 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: when do you plan enable autoscaling scenario test? | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | So, write the tempest test, run it in a loop, commit/git-review once it passes. :) | 20:13 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: AFAIK, it's skipped now | 20:13 |
| stevebaker | also priority should be given to native heat resources. Eventually we should only be testing cfn resources with cfn compatible templates using the cfn api with boto as tempest thirdparty tests | 20:13 |
| zaneb | stevebaker, sdake_: question - how does one run tempest locally? | 20:13 |
| shardy | stevebaker: so what is the heat-slow test currently testing? | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | zaneb I use testr | 20:13 |
| zaneb | i.e. not in the gat | 20:13 |
| zaneb | gate | 20:13 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: get my local rewrite finished, and maybe port it to the native autoscaling resources | 20:13 |
| shardy | stevebaker: I only see the autoscaling scenario test | 20:13 |
| zaneb | sdake_: just devstack + testr? | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | zaneb I add tempest to my devstack install -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/84814/46552661 | 20:14 |
| shardy | zaneb: you can run them just like a unit test | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | shardy: any orchestration test decorated with attribute "slow" | 20:14 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Ah, OK thanks | 20:14 |
| * zaneb needs to try setting up devstack again | 20:15 | |
| skraynev | stevebaker: cool, will it be before Juno release ? | 20:15 |
| shardy | I'm still a bit confused by the various decorator categories | 20:15 |
| *** gvernik has left #openstack-meeting | 20:15 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| stevebaker | to run tempest tl;dr, enable tempest in devstack, cd tempest, testr run slow | 20:15 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: I mean before new release cycle start | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | or: tempest run orchestration | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: I planned to enable it before havana ;) | 20:16 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: it needs some changes, the current approach is too racey | 20:16 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: hehe... just a little late ;) | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | so can I have a show of hands of people who intend to write some tests really soon now? | 20:17 |
| shardy | zaneb: btw, you don't have to use devstack, I've used tempest installed via packstack against RDO too | 20:17 |
| zaneb | oh, ok | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: o/ I will write a test for the retry thing I am still trying to get done. :) | 20:18 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: Ok, I hope, that it will be soon, because my test scenario test for lbaas in heat based on your example. | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | accepting that time is short and I may not get it into I ;) | 20:18 |
| shardy | stevebaker: I do, auth user/accesskey/trusts and volume stuff | 20:18 |
| *** resker has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:18 | |
| stevebaker | skraynev: yes, autoscaling plus load balancing should be the end goal | 20:19 |
| *** praneshp has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:19 | |
| *** praneshp has left #openstack-meeting | 20:19 | |
| stevebaker | shardy: using software-config to unmount/remount on suspend/resume would be an interesting thing to test for | 20:19 |
| mspreitz | Human resources uncertain, but interested in that scenario testing. | 20:20 |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:20 | |
| skraynev | stevebaker: could you ping me, when you upload new version of it? | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: sure thing | 20:20 |
| mspreitz | me too | 20:20 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:20 | |
| *** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:20 | |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: ok | 20:20 |
| shardy | stevebaker: sounds good - I need to spend some time trying out all the new software-config stuff :) | 20:20 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: thanks ;) | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | Maybe we should have a tempest test day | 20:21 |
| pas-ha | would like to try writing tempest tests too, but not sure how soon will have smth done.. need to learn it first :) | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | tempest test week would be more appropriate :) | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | we tried a test day once and nothing happened | 20:21 |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 20:21 | |
| skraynev | SpamapS: will be better - tempest week ;) | 20:21 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: we had one a while ago, there wasn't much participation. Maybe there would be more interest now | 20:21 |
| shardy | sdake_: agreed, needs more than a day | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | sdake_: true, takes a while to complete tests so might take more than a day just to get one to pass ;) | 20:21 |
| randallburt | no advertising. gotta market these things sdake_ ;) | 20:21 |
| *** mrda_away is now known as mrda | 20:21 | |
| sdake_ | I dont think advertising would have helped | 20:22 |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 20:22 | |
| SpamapS | people have to be angry about the lack of tests | 20:22 |
| Slower_ | I think if we do a 'test day' it should be longer than a day too | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | it takes a day just to come up to speed on tempest | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | so as long as sdague is calling us out, we should be angry ;) | 20:22 |
| tango | I will take a look at the bug wishlist and give a try on the tempest test | 20:22 |
| *** Slower_ is now known as Slower | 20:22 | |
| stevebaker | tango: cool, thanks | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | I don't think being angry turns into motiviation :) | 20:23 |
| stevebaker | as I've said many times, I find writing these tests actually fun | 20:23 |
| randallburt | while I agree the situation could certainly be better, the community at large needs to pitch in. I wonder if it would behove us to −2 things that we think should have matching tempest tests? | 20:23 |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 20:24 | |
| sdake_ | randallburt implementing such a policy before the rest of heat has coverage seems counterprodutive | 20:24 |
| Slower | sdake_: how is that? at least new stuff would have tests no? | 20:24 |
| randallburt | sdake_: perhaps. would keep us from playing catch-up though | 20:24 |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:24 | |
| stevebaker | randallburt: maybe now that we have a voting job which we can launch nova resources we can start considering that, | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | slower seems like a double standard | 20:24 |
| stevebaker | once we have some basic examples of testing our current resources then we could consider this | 20:24 |
| Slower | sdake_: I see what you are saying but I think randallburt makes a good point | 20:24 |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:25 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 20:25 | |
| SpamapS | a slight modification to randallburt's idea is to just insist that bug fixes have corresponding tempest tests, and that features only modify parts of Heat covered by at least some tempest test. | 20:25 |
| sdake_ | seriosuly if everyone on core spent 1 week madly writing tests cases in #heat, we would be done | 20:25 |
| Slower | maybe we think about transitioning to that | 20:25 |
| shardy | I don't think other projects enforce everything-in-tempest, (near) full coverage in unit tests and good coverage for core functionality in tempest IMO | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | sdake_: +1 | 20:25 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: sounds good. and maybe −2 is a little harsh, but at least some review guidelines specifically mentioning tempest/gate/check tests would be good | 20:25 |
| randallburt | SpamapS: +1 | 20:25 |
| sdake_ | we should just get er done | 20:25 |
| shardy | realistically we can't test everything in tempest or the tests will take too long to gate on | 20:25 |
| randallburt | sdake_: not every core has that kind of time to devote. we have 100+ contributors though | 20:26 |
| mspreitz | shardy: interesting framework point | 20:26 |
| SpamapS | Since these are integration/functional tests, we don't expect 100% coverage. But obvious failure prevention is extremely useful. | 20:26 |
| mspreitz | worthy of discussion itself | 20:26 |
| stevebaker | shardy: however a single scenario can squeeze in an aweful lot of coverate | 20:26 |
| stevebaker | coverage | 20:26 |
| *** changbl has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| SpamapS | This also helps prevent things like keystone changing an API that only we use <cough>trusts</cough> | 20:26 |
| shardy | stevebaker: agreed, getting autoscaling+LB would be a massive win | 20:27 |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:27 | |
| mspreitz | Should we add another category of tests, ones that don't run all the time in the gate but do run periodically? | 20:27 |
| sdake_ | slower :) | 20:27 |
| SpamapS | mspreitz: I'd rather focus on all the time tests. | 20:27 |
| SpamapS | sdake_: then later we'll have slowest, then slowerthanslowest ... | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | shardy: autoscaling+LB+software-config doing stack updates! | 20:27 |
| zaneb | randallburt: it's worth noting that you *can't* create tempest test for something until after it's merged, because otherwise the test will fail | 20:27 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:27 | |
| SpamapS | then "getsomecoffee" | 20:27 |
| shardy | stevebaker: ++ :) | 20:27 |
| morganfainberg | SpamapS, i think more than you guys use trusts :P | 20:27 |
| morganfainberg | (I hope more do) | 20:27 |
| *** mrodden has quit IRC | 20:28 | |
| SpamapS | morganfainberg: I kid, I kid. :) | 20:28 |
| stevebaker | "slow" just means "boots a server which isn't cirros" | 20:28 |
| morganfainberg | SpamapS, >.> | 20:28 |
| * morganfainberg goes back to lurking :) | 20:28 | |
| stevebaker | anyway, lets move on | 20:28 |
| stevebaker | #topic Deferred auth method default to trusts | 20:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deferred auth method default to trusts (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:28 | |
| sdake_ | i think we need scenario tests that handle every resource | 20:29 |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| sdake_ | but they should probablybe split out | 20:29 |
| shardy | stevebaker: so I posted this to devstack: | 20:29 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80002/ | 20:29 |
| *** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:29 | |
| *** afazekas has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| shardy | but I bumped the bug saying make it default to future, due to the upset the instance-users config chances caused.. | 20:30 |
| *** MarkAtwood has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:30 | |
| SpamapS | oh see defaulting deferred auth method to trusts is a good example of something that will benefit from more tempest tests. | 20:30 |
| shardy | the issue is it requires a role to exist, and for users to have that role, or we have nothing to delegate via trusts | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | shardy: It would to make it the default, but given the upgrade constraints I think it should fallback to password if the roles are not set up correctly | 20:30 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Ok, I can work on a patch which does that | 20:30 |
| *** che-arne has quit IRC | 20:30 | |
| *** colinmcnamara has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| stevebaker | shardy: or should the default be "auto" which uses trusts if the role exists? | 20:31 |
| radix | does this somehow involve the keystone v2 plugin too? | 20:31 |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| SpamapS | shardy: is that role heat_stack_user or something else? | 20:31 |
| randallburt | radix: no, that shouldn't be required for this | 20:31 |
| shardy | SpamapS: heat_stack_owner by default | 20:32 |
| SpamapS | ah ok | 20:32 |
| radix | ok | 20:32 |
| stevebaker | won't v2 keystone only ever be able to use password deferred auth? | 20:32 |
| SpamapS | Oh I like the idea of 'auto' ... does that already exist? | 20:32 |
| shardy | SpamapS: that is what's setup in devstack, but the idea is deployers set it to whatever makes sense given their local policy | 20:32 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: yup, afiak | 20:32 |
| shardy | SpamapS: heat_stack_user is for the in-instance users | 20:32 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: which isn't a problem if you need the v2 plugin you just need to know to set deferred auth to password | 20:33 |
| shardy | stevebaker: yes the v2 plugin will never work with trusts | 20:33 |
| stevebaker | shardy: what do you think of an "auto" option? | 20:33 |
| shardy | stevebaker: sigh. Seems kinda messy but I'm happ to do it if that's what folks want | 20:34 |
| shardy | can it be "auto with annoying log warnings"? :) | 20:34 |
| randallburt | lol | 20:34 |
| SpamapS | shardy: please do make it that way | 20:35 |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:35 | |
| shardy | I would like to move towards deprecating the whole password thing really | 20:35 |
| SpamapS | shardy: it is a legitimate WARNING .. you are running with less security than you should be. | 20:35 |
| SpamapS | shardy: and +1 for deprecating the user/pass auth as soon as keystone v2 is gone. | 20:35 |
| shardy | SpamapS: yeah, but it's also a user-facing annoyance, e.g that box in horizon where you have to enter a password on stack-create | 20:35 |
| stevebaker | WARNING: we r storng yr secrits | 20:35 |
| randallburt | SpamapS: but as much as you can given how heat works and one's particular constraints around api availability. | 20:35 |
| shardy | I saw users trying to use the UI with therve at a workshop recently and it's something we really should fix | 20:36 |
| sdake_ | stevebaker I had a parse error :) | 20:36 |
| SpamapS | shardy: ew, yeah lets kill that ASAP :) | 20:36 |
| shardy | SpamapS: +1000, but to do that, we *have* to use trusts | 20:36 |
| mspreitz | I opened a bug about the admin password boxes | 20:36 |
| shardy | so "auto" won't really cut it | 20:37 |
| mspreitz | wait, sorry, wrong boxes | 20:37 |
| shardy | as horizon has no way to know what variety of auto-ness heat has selected | 20:37 |
| SpamapS | shardy: right, so the only blocker to that is the sad pandas who are stuck with keystone v2 right? | 20:37 |
| *** colinmcnamara has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:37 | |
| shardy | I guess a deployer can just configure horizon to show the box or not | 20:37 |
| shardy | SpamapS: right | 20:37 |
| stevebaker | how could horizon know whether to prompt for password or not? it would probably have to do it after attempting a create without it | 20:37 |
| *** colinmcnamara has quit IRC | 20:38 | |
| stevebaker | like heatclient errors with a request to include the password | 20:38 |
| *** emagana has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:38 | |
| SpamapS | shardy: that is an interesting failure on a UI level. I wonder if we couldn't just teach horizon how to do the same check as heat-engine does? | 20:38 |
| *** colinmcnamara has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:38 | |
| shardy | stevebaker: Yeah I suppose | 20:38 |
| sdake_ | horizon probabloy just needs to pass the auth token rather then a user/pwd | 20:38 |
| SpamapS | Oh yeah see fallback to password makes sense. | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | that sounds like a different issue to me | 20:39 |
| shardy | SpamapS: we'd have to expose the requirement for deferred auth via the resource schema | 20:39 |
| SpamapS | sdake_: for create we need a user/pass or trusts. | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | ohright | 20:39 |
| sdake_ | yiou mean in the non-trusts case | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | I'd rather ask for forgiveness, attempt create with just a token, and an error will indicate a password is needed too | 20:39 |
| SpamapS | shardy: I think falling back after heatclient errors is the way to go.. since this is temporary. | 20:40 |
| shardy | My take is, lets just move towards making trusts the default, and make the password box a configuration option in horizon | 20:40 |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 20:40 | |
| *** thuc_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:40 | |
| SpamapS | so that is a breaking config option.. or one that has to default to the lowest common denominator to be useful. | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | #action make trusts the default, with graceful fallback so existing configuration files continue to work | 20:40 |
| shardy | Yeah, or fallback automagically but really I'd like the confusing password box hidden | 20:40 |
| *** funzo has quit IRC | 20:40 | |
| SpamapS | try/except seems acceptible.. since we know exactly the failure to expect if we have to fallback. | 20:41 |
| shardy | SpamapS: so re making it the default, what are the barries re adding a role to every user for TripleO? | 20:41 |
| pas-ha | could it be done in such way that horizon tries to create with trust and if fail present user with password input dialog? | 20:41 |
| *** funzo has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:41 | |
| shardy | SpamapS: I'm kinda nervous about the whole thing given recent events ;) | 20:41 |
| stevebaker | shardy: remember, "auto" is the default ;) | 20:41 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Ok right auto all the things, sorry | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | shardy: that would have an impact if it was required, yes. But we'll get it done ASAP if we know we have to do it and have a little lead time. | 20:42 |
| shardy | why do we have *any* config options, set them all to auto! :D | 20:42 |
| sdake_ | config options suck I agree :) | 20:42 |
| sdake_ | The telephone switch guys have no config options in their products | 20:42 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Ok, I'll work up an auto-trusts patch this week | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | We're almost done adding stack_domain_admin :) | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | now that our CI isn't broken :) | 20:43 |
| stevebaker | shardy: I think you're being facetious, but I actually agree ;) | 20:43 |
| *** radez is now known as radez_g0n3 | 20:43 | |
| sdake_ | getting rid of config options is possible, the telephone switch manufacturers did it, but it took them 30 years | 20:43 |
| *** thuc has quit IRC | 20:43 | |
| shardy | stevebaker: I am a bit, my concern re auto-all-the-things is maintaining masses of legacy fallback code long term | 20:43 |
| shardy | but if it's temporary, lets do it :) | 20:44 |
| shardy | SpamapS: that is good to hear! :) | 20:44 |
| stevebaker | shardy: having an auto can always detect the most appropriate option, it doesn't stop us from deprecating and removing the old broken ways | 20:44 |
| *** jasondotstar has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:45 | |
| shardy | stevebaker: well it does if everyone ignores the warnings and relies on the old broken ways | 20:45 |
| stevebaker | 15 minutes left | 20:45 |
| stevebaker | #topic Autoscaling and load balancers | 20:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Autoscaling and load balancers (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:45 | |
| stevebaker | mspreitz: go | 20:45 |
| mspreitz | OK, first question: do we think this works now? | 20:46 |
| mspreitz | the new ASG with Neutron LB? | 20:46 |
| *** colinmcnamara has quit IRC | 20:46 | |
| *** mrodden has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:46 | |
| radix | mspreitz: I am still trying to get a test environment working enough to try that | 20:46 |
| mspreitz | I mean put a PoolMember in a nested stack that gets scaled by the ASG | 20:46 |
| radix | i.e. one with Neutron | 20:46 |
| stevebaker | therve is putting it through its paces, I haven't got to it yet but will get back to the existing tempest test soon | 20:46 |
| radix | mspreitz: I hope it works :) | 20:46 |
| radix | bah. and my message to openstack-dev just bounced for some reason | 20:47 |
| *** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:47 | |
| mspreitz | Great. Now I just need a little help setting up neutron so I can test it myself. I have asked all day on IRC and ML, gotten zero useful response | 20:47 |
| stevebaker | but my position is that if it doesn't work, its bugs that need to be fixed before icehouse | 20:47 |
| radix | agreed | 20:47 |
| mspreitz | stevebaker: great | 20:47 |
| SpamapS | perhaps we should write a tempest test | 20:49 |
| SpamapS | for autoscaling + LB ;) | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: brilliant! | 20:49 |
| mspreitz | deja vu all over again! | 20:49 |
| * SpamapS is just a parrot :) | 20:49 | |
| skraynev | SpamapS: neutron LB? | 20:49 |
| * shardy just saw a black cat, then another just like it ;) | 20:49 | |
| SpamapS | skraynev: in theory it should work. In practice, I suspect that is something also not well tested in tempest already ;) | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | #open discussion | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | ahem | 20:50 |
| stevebaker | #topic open discussion | 20:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:50 | |
| mspreitz | maintenance | 20:50 |
| mspreitz | Anything in heat intend to keep VMs running? | 20:50 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: Graceful things from hot-software-config ... | 20:50 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: we had talked about how the automatic wait conditions softwareconfig/deployer create would be useful in this area.. | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: wondering if you have any update on that, or guidance as to whether I can write a resource plugin that would make that a reality... | 20:51 |
| mspreitz | SpamapS: I am having trouble parsing you | 20:51 |
| SpamapS | sorry | 20:51 |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:51 | |
| *** eglynn-afk has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:51 | |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: this is for rebuild specifically? what does the shutdown aquiesing actually need to do? | 20:52 |
| *** ArxCruz has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| radix | mspreitz: you mean, like, keeping things running when bad things happen out-of-band? (like a server being deleted somehow) | 20:52 |
| SpamapS | graceful things == signalling to in-instance tools that a reboot or instance delete is coming, and waiting for a signal back before doing reboot/delete. | 20:52 |
| mspreitz | radix: right | 20:52 |
| skraynev | SpamapS: hm. I don't know how it will be works together, because I only have tempest scenario test for LB (but currently it works local..) | 20:52 |
| radix | mspreitz: it's something that's being talked about a lot and will probably get attention from multiple people in juno | 20:52 |
| mspreitz | Spamaps: thanks. | 20:52 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: rebuild and delete | 20:53 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: and resize | 20:53 |
| sdake_ | spamaps I think stevebaker has something to handle that | 20:53 |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 20:53 | |
| sdake_ | he indicated software config can run a workload at shutdown before actually deleting the instance | 20:53 |
| SpamapS | Basically, our cluster health will stay higher during updates if we don't rip nodes out from the cluster without warning. | 20:53 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: so currently you can only do that for DELETE, since that is an action | 20:53 |
| *** thuc__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:53 | |
| *** dabo has quit IRC | 20:53 | |
| *** edleafe has joined #openstack-meeting | 20:54 | |
| *** thuc_ has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: ok, so I could in theory extend OS::Nova::Server to use the same method before it does a rebuild? | 20:54 |
| sdake_ | eg, the workload running would be part of hte delete operation | 20:54 |
| radix | SpamapS: also need signalling to other resources, I think | 20:54 |
| radix | SpamapS: e.g. dependent PoolMembers | 20:54 |
| radix | SpamapS: so that they can temporarily remove a node from a load balancer when the node is being e.g. resized | 20:54 |
| *** randallburt has left #openstack-meeting | 20:54 | |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yes. How about putting your subclass in contrib/tripleo. Would you object to moving OS::Heat::UpdateWaitConditionHandle there too? | 20:54 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I would not object to either of those, though IMO OS::Heat::UpdateWaitConditionHandle is generically useful for anybody not ready to use SoftwareConfig so I am less excited to move it to contrib. | 20:55 |
| *** torgomatic has left #openstack-meeting | 20:55 | |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: and if we can't get it into contrib for Icehouse, we'll just ship it in tripleo-heat-templates | 20:56 |
| SpamapS | since that does not really freeze | 20:56 |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 20:56 | |
| zaneb | UpdateWaitConditionHandle frightens me, but I don't know what an alternative would look like | 20:56 |
| shardy | SpamapS: FYI I started looking at a native OS::Heat::WaitSignal resource, designed to work with heat resouirce-signal, but ran out of time | 20:56 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: maybe long term will be to represent rebuild/resize workloads as config/deployment, but short term just hack it | 20:57 |
| shardy | will probably pick that up again after the freeze, although the software-config stuff somewhat makes it redundant | 20:57 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: but I will think about how it could be donw | 20:57 |
| stevebaker | I'm assuming contrib is not subject to feature freeze by the way | 20:58 |
| *** ErikB has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| shardy | stevebaker: do we know that's the case? | 20:58 |
| stevebaker | shardy: no, I will confirm | 20:58 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: yeah, I think it is just another action, just a resource-centric action rather than a stack-centric action like DELETE | 20:58 |
| lifeless | radix: on signalling cross-node - there are lots of reasons a node might be unavailable, lbss shoudl just cope | 20:59 |
| *** saurabhs has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yes, it might turn out to be easy | 20:59 |
| lifeless | radix: it is after all what they are designed to do | 20:59 |
| shardy | out of time.. | 20:59 |
| radix | lifeless: I'm not talking about cross-node signalling | 20:59 |
| radix | but maybe you're still right | 20:59 |
| mspreitz | lifeless: agree | 20:59 |
| sdake_ | its midnight somewhere | 20:59 |
| radix | lifeless: there are other use cases, like VolumeConnections, I don't know what kind of behavior those have. | 20:59 |
| stevebaker | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 21:00:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-03-12-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-03-12-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| radix | ok | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-03-12-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| radix | o/ | 21:00 |
| *** rpothier_ has left #openstack-meeting | 21:00 | |
| *** rpothier_ has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| jd__ | #startmeeting ceilometer | 21:00 |
| Slower | stevebaker: wow, 1 second late! :) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 12 21:00:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| *** skraynev is now known as skraynev_afk | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 21:00 |
| jd__ | hi | 21:00 |
| dragondm | o/ | 21:00 |
| *** gordc has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:00 | |
| gibi | o/ | 21:00 |
| jd__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer | 21:00 |
| eglynn-afk | o/ | 21:00 |
| ildikov_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| terriyu | o/ | 21:00 |
| stevebaker | Slower: :) | 21:00 |
| *** eglynn-afk is now known as eglynn | 21:00 | |
| _nadya_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| nsaje | o/ | 21:00 |
| gordc | o/ | 21:00 |
| *** arbylee has left #openstack-meeting | 21:00 | |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 21:01 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:02 | |
| *** vkozhukalov has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:02 | |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:02 | |
| jd__ | that should be a quick meeting | 21:02 |
| jd__ | #topic Milestone status icehouse-rc1 | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Milestone status icehouse-rc1 (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:02 | |
| *** lpabon has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| eglynn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1288372 is proving a tad awkward | 21:02 |
| *** pas-ha has left #openstack-meeting | 21:02 | |
| jd__ | so we're pretty much on track, I don't know if VMware stuff are all merged I didn't check | 21:02 |
| jd__ | no it should be mostly about bugs | 21:03 |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
| eglynn | current approach on LP 1288372 requires upping the min mongo version to 2.4 to get access to the new $setOnInsert operator | 21:03 |
| jd__ | eglynn: I feel your pain | 21:03 |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:03 | |
| eglynn | LOL :) | 21:03 |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:03 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: we already require 2.2 right? | 21:03 |
| eglynn | yep | 21:03 |
| jd__ | if we have 2.4 on at least one CI node, I'm good with that | 21:03 |
| jd__ | (which is not sure) | 21:04 |
| jd__ | (I think py27 has 2.2 and py26 has 2.3) | 21:04 |
| gordc | jd__: i believe vmware stuff is merged... just cleaning up docs now... and probably need to apply fixes to the minor comments. | 21:04 |
| eglynn | the pain will be also be felt by the RHEL RPM sausage makers ;) | 21:04 |
| jd__ | gordc: ack | 21:04 |
| eglynn | (only 2.2 packaged on RHEL right now) | 21:04 |
| jd__ | eglynn: is there any other option? | 21:04 |
| *** andrew_plunk has quit IRC | 21:04 | |
| eglynn | jd__: I think not, but in any case I'll have a patch out for review tmrw morning, we can trash it out on gerrit ... | 21:05 |
| *** thuc has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:05 | |
| *** gyee has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| gordc | i put a patch to spawn multiple workers: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79962 ... local testing shows improve me. | 21:05 |
| gordc | s/improve me/improvement | 21:05 |
| gordc | only issue is it brings up deadlocking issues again. | 21:06 |
| jd__ | gordc: uh? | 21:06 |
| *** hartsocks has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:06 | |
| gordc | jd__: yeah... it's going to need a rewrite of how we store records... or we keep collector as single thread for now. | 21:07 |
| *** nati_ueno has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| jd__ | gordc: another improvement you can make is to set the greenpool size to 1 to avoid all races condition | 21:07 |
| *** mspreitz has left #openstack-meeting | 21:07 | |
| jd__ | gordc: that is part of my plan too | 21:07 |
| _nadya_ | we have dependency-problem regarding rpm with happybase too. as far as I remember only 0.6 version is available and it doesn't work. need to check 0.8 | 21:07 |
| *** bswartz has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| eglynn | gordc: does this multi-worker change impact on the API service, or just the agents? | 21:07 |
| jd__ | gordc: anyhow that patch looks a very good first step, thanks | 21:07 |
| gordc | jd__: i'll look into that. the problem is the updates we make to (useless) secondary tables (source, project, resource, etc...) | 21:08 |
| *** thuc__ has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| eglynn | gordc: ... /me just wondering about the old behaviour of the out-of-the-box API service being locked up during long-running API requests | 21:08 |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| gordc | eglynn: i only turned on multiple workers for collector and notification services. | 21:08 |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| eglynn | gordc: fair enough | 21:08 |
| gordc | eglynn: i figure it makes no sense for agents and api... | 21:08 |
| *** nati_ueno has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:08 | |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:09 | |
| jd__ | indeed | 21:09 |
| jd__ | anything else? | 21:09 |
| *** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:09 | |
| eglynn | gordc: yeah I guess there's an alternative way of making the api service able to handle concurrent requests | 21:09 |
| jd__ | eglynn: real people uses a WSGI server :) | 21:09 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeap | 21:10 |
| gordc | jd__: not from me. i'll keep playing with it to see if we can avoid deadlocks. | 21:10 |
| jd__ | cool | 21:10 |
| jd__ | #topic Tempest integration | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest integration (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:10 | |
| jd__ | _nadya_: any update? | 21:10 |
| _nadya_ | hi all. We were working a lot on notification problem and as a result is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1291054 . I hope that the fix will allow us to test ceilometer in tempest. As I wrote in email [Collector's performance], all tempest tests creates a rather high load on ceilometer services. So the plan is to test the fix with changed polling interval. Because I plan to create pollster-tests by the end of week. An | 21:10 |
| _nadya_ | d if test is not successful we will discuss what do do on next meeting :) | 21:10 |
| *** dprince has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** mrodden has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| jd__ | sounds like a plan :) | 21:11 |
| _nadya_ | afaik, ci-nodes has 8 cpus a least. so with Gordon's patch it should work 8x faster | 21:12 |
| *** mrodden has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:12 | |
| jd__ | yep | 21:12 |
| gordc | _nadya_: lol. i like the optimism. | 21:12 |
| jd__ | we'll add rainbows later gordc :) | 21:13 |
| gordc | perfect! | 21:13 |
| _nadya_ | :) | 21:13 |
| jd__ | #topic Release python-ceilometerclient? | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release python-ceilometerclient? (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:13 | |
| eglynn | still patches in the queue for the new icehouse features | 21:13 |
| * eglynn needs to find his reviewing mojo ;) | 21:13 | |
| jd__ | hehe | 21:13 |
| *** jdob has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
| ildikov_ | our patch sets are all ready for review | 21:13 |
| eglynn | will aim to release next week once the backlog has landed | 21:13 |
| jd__ | cool, we still have time to release | 21:13 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: noted :) | 21:13 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: thanks :) | 21:14 |
| nsaje | ours too :) | 21:14 |
| jd__ | #topic Open discussion | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:14 | |
| *** denis_makogon_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:14 | |
| eglynn | terriyu brought up the OPW last week | 21:14 |
| eglynn | so we've had some movement on that ... spun out an idea | 21:14 |
| eglynn | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OutreachProgramForWomen/Ideas#Ceilometer_-_Period-spanning_statistics | 21:14 |
| eglynn | and interest has been expressed in it ... | 21:15 |
| terriyu | yes, a friend of mine from grad school is working with eglynn on it | 21:15 |
| eglynn | yep, so if you have the opportunity to help anamalagon with her pre-application work, please do so | 21:15 |
| terriyu | her nickname is anamalagon and she's finishing up her physics PhD | 21:15 |
| eglynn | (it would be good for Ana to have landed at least one ceilo patch before the OPW deadline of Mar 19th) | 21:16 |
| terriyu | so far, she seems to be doing very well, so if we help her as much as possible, she has a great shot at getting into OPW and becoming a Ceilometer intern this summer | 21:16 |
| *** Mandell has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| gordc | cool, i'll keep an eye out for her work. | 21:16 |
| *** dkranz has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| ildikov_ | if she succeeds with sphinx, then nothing can stop her :) | 21:17 |
| gordc | lol | 21:17 |
| terriyu | eglynn: do you have a link to the patch she's working on right now? | 21:17 |
| ildikov_ | I can offer some help too, if she needs, even with sphinx | 21:17 |
| eglynn | terriyu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1290924 | 21:18 |
| _nadya_ | please remind me the date of rc1 | 21:18 |
| terriyu | everyone, this is the bug that anamalgon is working on ^^ | 21:18 |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:19 | |
| _nadya_ | *sorry for interrupting | 21:19 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 21:19 |
| *** rfolco has quit IRC | 21:19 | |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... so w/c Mat 27th I guess | 21:19 |
| eglynn | *Mar | 21:19 |
| _nadya_ | eglynn: ok, thanks | 21:20 |
| jd__ | yeah though we can release rc1 as soon as we're ready | 21:20 |
| *** andrew_plunk has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:20 | |
| *** nati_ueno has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| eglynn | jd__: a-ha ok, cool | 21:20 |
| eglynn | ... but ttx still pulls the trigger on it, or? | 21:21 |
| gordc | jd__: have we branched already? just wondering when we are able to approve non-icehouse stuff. | 21:21 |
| *** denis_makogon_ is now known as denis_makogon | 21:21 | |
| eglynn | gordc: usually coincides with RC1 being cut IIRC | 21:21 |
| jd__ | yep | 21:22 |
| gordc | eglynn: cool cool. i was waiting for jd__ to start tossing the usually red x's around for ff | 21:22 |
| jd__ | I'm lazy this time, I don't think I'll do that | 21:22 |
| eglynn | ... his favourite time of the cycle ;) | 21:22 |
| *** nickchase has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| *** stevemar has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| jd__ | I envision a world where every core reviewer is smart enough to not press the button | 21:22 |
| gordc | it'd be mine too :) | 21:22 |
| jd__ | :D | 21:23 |
| *** zns has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:23 | |
| *** stevemar has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:23 | |
| gordc | jd__: i need to disable my approve radio button... it's calling to be pressed. | 21:23 |
| *** tspatzier has left #openstack-meeting | 21:24 | |
| eglynn | jd__: how long to leave the core nominations for _nadya_ & ildikov_ open? | 21:25 |
| *** ameade has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** Gordonz has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:25 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: 5 days IIRC | 21:25 |
| eglynn | ... tradition is what, 5 working days? | 21:25 |
| eglynn | cool | 21:25 |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:25 | |
| *** Gordonz has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| _nadya_ | ildikov_: ;) | 21:26 |
| ildikov_ | _nadya_: ;) | 21:26 |
| *** cody-somerville- has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:26 | |
| *** Gordonz has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:26 | |
| *** jasondotstar has quit IRC | 21:26 | |
| eglynn | ... 7 of 8 votes in so far, it's looking like a shoo-in :) | 21:26 |
| ildikov_ | _nadya_: here comes the women power ;) | 21:26 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov_: hehe | 21:27 |
| eglynn | ... /me hides ;) | 21:27 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: LOL :) | 21:27 |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** lisaclark1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:28 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: ah so basically we already have a majority? | 21:28 |
| *** caleb_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:28 | |
| eglynn | jd__: yep every core save nijaba has +1'd already | 21:29 |
| *** caleb_ has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| *** caleb_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:29 | |
| *** caleb_ has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| jd__ | pff I totally missed the count indeed | 21:29 |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:30 | |
| jd__ | well, no need to wait I'll add you guys tomorrow and will send a mail ton confirm | 21:30 |
| *** marcoemorais has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** caleb_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:30 | |
| *** swifterdarrell has left #openstack-meeting | 21:30 | |
| eglynn | jd__: nice! | 21:30 |
| *** marcoemorais has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:30 | |
| *** caleb_ has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| eglynn | ildikov_, _nadya_: welcome to the inner sanctum! :) | 21:30 |
| gordc | congrats to both of you. | 21:30 |
| jd__ | anything else or should I close that meeting? | 21:30 |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| nsaje | _nadya_ ildikov_ congratulations :) | 21:31 |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:31 | |
| *** caleb_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:31 | |
| * terriyu claps for _nadya_ and ildikov_ | 21:31 | |
| _nadya_ | thanks :) | 21:31 |
| ildikov_ | I assume it is tha part, when I can thank to my parents and all the cores for helping all the way through :) | 21:31 |
| ildikov_ | s/tha/the/ | 21:31 |
| gordc | :) | 21:32 |
| terriyu | _nadya_: speech? | 21:32 |
| *** lisaclark1 has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
| *** nati_ueno has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:33 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| _nadya_ | oh, I'm not so prepared :) I promise to be a responsible core :) | 21:33 |
| jd__ | :) | 21:33 |
| terriyu | :) | 21:33 |
| *** andrew_plunk1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:34 | |
| *** andrew_plunk1 has left #openstack-meeting | 21:34 | |
| eglynn | _nadya_: nah, we need more irresponsibility ;) ... swash-buckling and risk-taking | 21:34 |
| *** andrew_plunk has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** rbrady is now known as rbrady-afk | 21:35 | |
| _nadya_ | eglynn: really:)? I will think about it | 21:35 |
| eglynn | _nadya_: ... I jest ;) | 21:35 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: as I mentioned girl power is here, we will not disappoint you ;) | 21:35 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: yeah I'm counting on that :) | 21:36 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: awsome ;) | 21:36 |
| jd__ | wrapping up gentlemen and gentlwomen | 21:37 |
| *** saurabhs has quit IRC | 21:37 | |
| jd__ | see you next week and all the time on #openstack-ceilometer | 21:37 |
| eglynn | good night all! | 21:38 |
| gordc | laters | 21:38 |
| jd__ | happy hacking! | 21:38 |
| jd__ | #endmeeting | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gerrit on review.openstack.org is down for maintenance (revised eta to resume is 13:00 utc)" | 21:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 12 21:38:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-03-12-21.00.html | 21:38 |
| ildikov_ | good night! | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-03-12-21.00.txt | 21:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-03-12-21.00.log.html | 21:38 |
| *** gordc has left #openstack-meeting | 21:38 | |
| *** eglynn has quit IRC | 21:38 | |
| *** _nadya_ has quit IRC | 21:39 | |
| *** slong has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:40 | |
| *** d0ugal has quit IRC | 21:41 | |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:41 | |
| *** stevemar has quit IRC | 21:43 | |
| *** thedodd has quit IRC | 21:44 | |
| *** Mandell has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:44 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has quit IRC | 21:47 | |
| *** thomasem has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** jprovazn has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 21:49 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:49 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:52 | |
| *** topol has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| *** rakhmero_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:54 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 21:54 | |
| *** jecarey has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:54 | |
| *** fifieldt has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:54 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 21:55 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 21:55 | |
| *** dkliban has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| *** ttrifonov_zZzz is now known as ttrifonov | 21:56 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 21:57 | |
| *** kevinconway has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** bgorski has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** rakhmero_ has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** rossella_s has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| *** devlaps1 has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:02 | |
| *** devlaps has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| *** mwagner_lap has quit IRC | 22:04 | |
| *** hartsocks has quit IRC | 22:04 | |
| *** zul has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:04 | |
| *** neelashah has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| *** zul has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| *** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:05 | |
| *** vuil has quit IRC | 22:08 | |
| *** lblanchard has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| *** neelashah has quit IRC | 22:10 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:11 | |
| *** hemna is now known as hemnafk | 22:12 | |
| *** manishg_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:18 | |
| *** vijendar has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| *** aysyd has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| *** yassine has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:22 | |
| *** manishg_ has quit IRC | 22:23 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:24 | |
| *** jgrimm has quit IRC | 22:26 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** armax has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
| *** harlowja has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
| *** harlowja has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:31 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:32 | |
| *** Gordonz has quit IRC | 22:32 | |
| *** Gordonz has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:33 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 22:35 | |
| *** jergerber has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:36 | |
| *** crc32 has quit IRC | 22:36 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:36 | |
| *** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:36 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:37 | |
| *** Gordonz has quit IRC | 22:37 | |
| *** slagle has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| *** MaxV has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:40 | |
| *** baoli has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** jergerber has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** otherwiseguy has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:42 | |
| *** pablosan is now known as ZZpablosan | 22:44 | |
| *** lintan__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:45 | |
| *** MaxV has quit IRC | 22:45 | |
| *** MarkAtwood has quit IRC | 22:45 | |
| *** sarob__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:46 | |
| *** lintan_ has quit IRC | 22:46 | |
| *** Daviey has quit IRC | 22:46 | |
| *** Leonr has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** Sukhdev has quit IRC | 22:47 | |
| *** changbl has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:47 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:47 | |
| *** mrodden has quit IRC | 22:48 | |
| *** sarob has quit IRC | 22:49 | |
| *** Daviey has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:49 | |
| *** Swami has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** crc32 has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:50 | |
| *** sarob__ has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:50 | |
| *** emagana has quit IRC | 22:51 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:52 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:53 | |
| *** MarkAtwood has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:53 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:55 | |
| *** ivasev has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** ArthurBerezin has left #openstack-meeting | 22:55 | |
| *** brucer has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:55 | |
| *** alex-out is now known as Alexandra | 22:56 | |
| *** eguz has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:56 | |
| *** radsy has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:57 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 22:57 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:58 | |
| *** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:58 | |
| *** _sweston_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 22:58 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 22:59 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 22:59 | |
| *** eghobo has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** eguz has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** dims_ has quit IRC | 23:02 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:02 | |
| *** ftcjeff has quit IRC | 23:02 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:03 | |
| *** adalbas has quit IRC | 23:03 | |
| *** banix has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:05 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:07 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:09 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 23:10 | |
| *** mrodden has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:10 | |
| *** jmontemayor has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** nati_ueno has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** mtanino has quit IRC | 23:12 | |
| *** jecarey has quit IRC | 23:12 | |
| *** nati_ueno has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:12 | |
| *** ttrifonov is now known as ttrifonov_zZzz | 23:12 | |
| *** fnaval_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:12 | |
| *** armax has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:12 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:13 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:14 | |
| *** fnaval has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** dims_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:16 | |
| *** rramirez has quit IRC | 23:17 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:19 | |
| *** fnaval_ has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** atiwari has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:21 | |
| *** yassine has quit IRC | 23:23 | |
| *** henrynash has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:23 | |
| *** yfujioka has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:24 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:24 | |
| *** nelsnelson has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** atiwari has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** saurabhs has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:25 | |
| *** sushils has quit IRC | 23:26 | |
| *** sushils has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:26 | |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:27 | |
| *** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:28 | |
| *** _sweston_ has quit IRC | 23:29 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:30 | |
| *** dcramer__ has quit IRC | 23:30 | |
| *** sushils has quit IRC | 23:30 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:31 | |
| *** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:32 | |
| *** denis_makogon has quit IRC | 23:32 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:35 | |
| *** lsmola has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** lsmola has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:36 | |
| *** maurosr has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** mtreinish has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** mtreinish has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:37 | |
| *** maurosr has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:37 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** rohit404 has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:38 | |
| *** novas0x2a|laptop has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:38 | |
| *** bauzas has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| *** david_lyle_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:39 | |
| *** amandeep has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:39 | |
| *** amandeep is now known as jimidar | 23:40 | |
| *** s3wong has quit IRC | 23:40 | |
| *** david-lyle has quit IRC | 23:41 | |
| *** alazarev has quit IRC | 23:41 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:41 | |
| *** tomoe_ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:42 | |
| *** sweston has quit IRC | 23:42 | |
| *** dcramer__ has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:43 | |
| *** alazarev has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:45 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:46 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:46 | |
| *** yaja has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:47 | |
| *** saurabhs has quit IRC | 23:47 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:48 | |
| *** saurabhs has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:48 | |
| *** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:50 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
| *** manishg has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:52 | |
| *** Alexandra is now known as alex-afk | 23:53 | |
| *** xyhuang has quit IRC | 23:53 | |
| *** rohit404 has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| *** resker has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| *** gokrokve_ has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| *** ivar-lazzaro has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:54 | |
| *** esker has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:55 | |
| *** gokrokve has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:55 | |
| *** yaja has quit IRC | 23:55 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC | 23:55 | |
| *** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:55 | |
| *** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting | 23:56 | |
| *** manishg has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| *** gokrokve has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| *** esker has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| *** rakhmerov has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!