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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: hi luis | 15:45 |
| luis_fdez | hi primeministerp | 15:45 |
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| luis_fdez | I'm early this afternon :) | 15:45 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: hehe | 15:45 |
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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 15:57 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 15:57:43 2013 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:57 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 15:57 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | hi everyone, let's wait 5 for the others to join | 15:58 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: pedro! | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: thanks being responsive to alex this weekend | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i know you're busy w/ the new job/move | 16:01 |
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| primeministerp | alex and tavi are joining in a moment | 16:01 |
| pnavarro | no problem, primeministerp | 16:01 |
| pnavarro | you know, the weather here is awful | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: did you offically relocate yet? | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: cold? | 16:01 |
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| alexpilotti | Hi guys! | 16:01 |
| pnavarro | cold, rainy | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: hello | 16:02 |
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| ociuhandu | hi all! | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: hi tavi | 16:02 |
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| pnavarro | hi alexpilotti, hi tavi ! | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | Sorry, I'm on the phone | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: no worries | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | Hi Pedro! | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: we'll make it quick then | 16:02 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: I'll be moving the 27th of february | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: great | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: you must be excited | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | ..btw let's begin so alex can get back to his phone call | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | #topic hyper-v refactor | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hyper-v refactor (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:03 | |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: I know you said it made it through and has gotten reviewed w/ a +2 | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: there's additional bits needed to be checked in for review as well | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | correct? | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | Yep, we got the first one | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti:perfect | 16:04 |
| pnavarro | great | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | We need a second review and we are set | 16:04 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: great, let me know if I can do anything to help the process | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: we'll move quick | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | #topic resize | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "resize (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:05 | |
| primeministerp | how far along is the resize work? | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | Considering how everybody liked the old tests it's going to be fast :-) | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: good | 16:05 |
| pnavarro | hehe ! | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | Far along as in started today :-) | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | haha | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | I wasn't sure if you were resurecting the old bits | 16:06 |
| alexpilotti | Hopefully it's gonna be done this week | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | will rdp be complete for g3 | 16:07 |
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| alexpilotti | I'd like to add rescue and diagnostics | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | and I'm sure we have to apply for incubator status | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | on that | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | On RDP we are fighting with some auth issues | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: w/ rescue are you going to utilize the cirrus work? | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: still w/ the custom ssp provider? | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | Nope, w the HyperV auth extensions | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: I'm assuming then we still need the ssp provider? | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | FreeRDP is a great project, but still a bit beta-ish | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | *nod* | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | The ssp is for ssh auth | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | right | 16:09 |
| alexpilotti | Not for RDP | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | i thought we were trying to utilze via rdp as well? | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | use same mechanism | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | that one confuses me from time to time | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | Nope, we get through keystone here | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | #topic ci | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ci (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:10 | |
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| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i've been working on the bits this morning | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: hoping to have pxeable windows by end of day | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: have you progressed w/ the network controller bits | 16:11 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: on the controller node, except ssl cert generation and horizon, it's done | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | ok perfect | 16:11 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: today i started on the network node | 16:11 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: until i lost the DC connectivity, about 6 hours ago :) | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | your end or mine? | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | that line is saturated | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | as we share the bandwidth w/ others | 16:12 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: think yours, everything else was working fine hee | 16:12 |
| ociuhandu | here | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: prob is, I know there's a conf there today | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | that will affect our bandwidth greatly | 16:13 |
| ociuhandu | including the other vpn connection i have :) | 16:13 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: will work locally writing some stuff and will put it and test it once it's working again | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: ok I'll also check to see what's going on | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | but I"m pretty sure you got kicked when the conf started | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | :( | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | I'll check w/ local it to verify | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | anyway, let's touch base later | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | #topic general discussion | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general discussion (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:14 | |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: have tried a few times and was down, did not insist on it. Sure | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: any updates from CERN? | 16:14 |
| luis_fdez | working on specific cern stuff for next release but | 16:15 |
| luis_fdez | I found something that maybe it could be interesting to implelemente (and i'll be able to) | 16:15 |
| luis_fdez | support removing unused base images like libvirt driver does | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: regarding windows/hyper-v? | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | ahh | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I'm assuming feature for "H" | 16:16 |
| luis_fdez | yeps | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: will you be attending the summit in portland? | 16:16 |
| luis_fdez | Nop, Jan will be there | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | o great, it will be good to catch up w/ hom | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | er him | 16:17 |
| luis_fdez | hehe | 16:17 |
| hanrahat | quick update on licensing...i've asked alessandro's question about creating a VHD and making it available to other community members to test... first response was no, you can't do that but there may be a workaround. i'm still working on the issue. | 16:17 |
| luis_fdez | apart from that... | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | hanrahat: great I like workarounds | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | hanrahat: it would be fantastic if we could provide eval vhd's for trying the cloudinit bits | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: The images require some work for versioning as well | 16:18 |
| hanrahat | primeministerp: yes, i know. i'll definitely make that point | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: please make sure you coordinate w/ alexpilotti some time after the summit | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: for blueprints etc | 16:19 |
| luis_fdez | ok primeministerp | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: thx | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | ok anything else? | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: ? | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | o | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | cinder unit tests | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | were they completed? | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: Good point | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: pnavarro I saw the discussion over the weekend | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | We should refactor cinder as well | 16:20 |
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| alexpilotti | It's going to be quicker :-) | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | good | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: pnavarro in time for G3? | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: What do u think? | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | I don't see it as urgent | 16:21 |
| pnavarro | ping | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: pong | 16:22 |
| pnavarro | yeah ! | 16:22 |
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| pnavarro | cinder tests, I could do that | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: refactor too? | 16:22 |
| pnavarro | yeah, some refactor too | 16:22 |
| pnavarro | the code is much more simpler | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | i know | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | that's good | 16:23 |
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| primeministerp | anyone else have anything to add? | 16:23 |
| pnavarro | I wanted to some testing instead of cinder refactoring | 16:23 |
| pnavarro | because next week I'll start working for stackops | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: ok | 16:24 |
| pnavarro | I don't want to start a task without knowing if I'll have time to invest | 16:24 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: gotcha | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: that's fair | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: pitch in where/when ever you can | 16:25 |
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| alexpilotti | It's not urgent IMO | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: agreed | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | We can have it done for H | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | ok then, i'm going to end the meeting | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | And if pnavarro has cycles now | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | I'd prefer quantum :-) | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: agreed | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | thanks everyone | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 16:27:19 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-29-15.57.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-29-15.57.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-29-15.57.log.html | 16:27 |
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| heckj | morning all | 17:58 |
| heckj | keystone meeting in a few min? | 17:58 |
| kwss | hello | 17:59 |
| heckj | hello kristy | 17:59 |
| ayoung | heckj, good to have you areound | 17:59 |
| heckj | yeah, sorry about that | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | Keystone in 3...2...1... | 17:59 |
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| heckj | #startmeeting keystone | 17:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 17:59:56 2013 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| heckj | OLA! | 18:00 |
| henrynash | hi there | 18:00 |
| heckj | So - what do we have on the plate for today? | 18:00 |
| ayoung | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:00 |
| heckj | I know some topics around SQL & migrations | 18:00 |
| heckj | might as well do it i in order | 18:00 |
| heckj | #topic high priority bugs or immediate issues? | 18:00 |
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| heckj | Anything burning to the ground? | 18:00 |
| topol | Hi | 18:01 |
| gyee | heckj we need to come to an agreement on the authn API | 18:01 |
| gyee | time is running short for G3 | 18:01 |
| ayoung | gyee, its on the agenda | 18:01 |
| ayoung | we can bump it though | 18:01 |
| heckj | 3rd from top - happy to pull it up now | 18:01 |
| ayoung | want to hit that first? I don't think we have any critical bugs etc... | 18:01 |
| heckj | What's the outstanding quandry on the authn API? | 18:02 |
| ayoung | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-keystone-v3api | 18:02 |
| gyee | 1) token ID no longer in token data | 18:02 |
| gyee | dolphm have some doubts on that | 18:02 |
| ayoung | my argument is that the token data is signed. THe signature is turned into the identifier. Sticking that into the data breaks the signature | 18:03 |
| ayoung | so, while a validate response should return the ID, it should not be in the signed data itself. | 18:03 |
| gyee | 2) have an explicit "scope" layer to convey the scoping information, suggested by jsavak | 18:04 |
| henrynash | ayoung: seems sensible to me | 18:04 |
| gyee | I am fine with that | 18:04 |
| dwchadwick | a much larger issue is whether to unify the API for all attributes or not | 18:04 |
| gyee | 3) renaming "mechanisms" to "methods", suggested by dolphm | 18:04 |
| gyee | I am fine with it too | 18:04 |
| ayoung | gyee, link to 2) above? | 18:05 |
| henrynash | gyee: you mean "scope: i.e. domain or project…or mrore than that? | 18:05 |
| gyee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/3/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md | 18:05 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I would also think service catalog | 18:05 |
| gyee | henrynash, yes | 18:05 |
| gyee | 4) service catalog formatting | 18:05 |
| gyee | we need an agreement on what the service catalog's going to look like | 18:06 |
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| gyee | maybe jaypipes have some strong opinion on this one | 18:06 |
| heckj | gyee: was service catalog format substantially changing? Not sure where that one came in | 18:06 |
| ayoung | gyee, on the scope thing, I think we need to clarify that there are values used to request the token, and then values used to specify the scope of access for the token. | 18:07 |
| gyee | heckj, from dolphm ... | 18:07 |
| gyee | Perhaps another change, but we've discussed indexing the service catalog by service type, region and interface, rather than providing it as a list clients have to iterate through: | 18:07 |
| gyee | catalog['identity']['north']['public']['url'] | 18:07 |
| ayoung | as the userID might be from one domain, but requesting access to a different domain, and we would need to track both pieces of information. Just make it clear which is which. | 18:08 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I'm going to nix that | 18:08 |
| gyee | ayoung, sounds good | 18:08 |
| heckj | dolphm around today? don't want to run roughshod over him without having him around to defend himself | 18:08 |
| gyee | :) | 18:08 |
| ayoung | that would be part of specifying the service catalog in the token request, which is a fine addition | 18:08 |
| ayoung | but the signed data should be the set of endpoints | 18:08 |
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| heckj | do we have any detail or writeup on what scoping in the token data looks like - representations, etc? | 18:09 |
| gyee | should we defer this later, till dolphm shows up? | 18:09 |
| heckj | I get the potential value | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | If we can get people to agree on a wider definition of "geographic entity" we will be happy to sign that, too, but it isn't going to be in V3 out the gate. | 18:09 |
| heckj | item 1 I think I'd like dolph here to voice his opinion | 18:10 |
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| heckj | item 2 I'm trying to undetstand the specifics | 18:10 |
| heckj | item 3 I'm fine with | 18:10 |
| heckj | and it looks like we perhaps just nixed item 4 | 18:10 |
| ayoung | heckj, to be clear, I think item 4 can be added later without breaking backwards compat | 18:10 |
| gyee | k, lemme clean it up and submit another patch later today | 18:10 |
| heckj | are there two active proposals for what the token representation looks like? Current and something modified with scope? | 18:10 |
| heckj | ayoung: yep, agreed | 18:11 |
| ayoung | heckj, not current | 18:11 |
| ayoung | current is a mess | 18:11 |
| ayoung | propsed is at the bottom of the etherpad I linked to above | 18:11 |
| ayoung | line 158 ist | 18:11 |
| ayoung | ish | 18:11 |
| henrynash | gyee: the token structure is "multi-project/domain scoped" ready….are we all agreed we should make it so (even though we have not agreed on multi projects/domains yet) | 18:11 |
| heckj | ayoung: so your asserting is something new needs to be made, and there's a single proposal. Is anyone arguing with it, or is it just pending "yeah, looks OK" from the core? | 18:11 |
| heckj | ayoung: did you get any responses from other PTLs or project folks looking at the token defn from email yesterday? | 18:12 |
| gyee | henrynash, correct, design with future in mind :) | 18:12 |
| ayoung | heckj, no responses | 18:12 |
| heckj | arg | 18:12 |
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| heckj | Okay, I'll go explicit kick some folks with that data | 18:12 |
| ayoung | heckj, but Joe Savak posted on the review | 18:12 |
| gyee | heckj, we need to freeze the v3 spec soon so other service have time to integrity | 18:13 |
| joesavak | hi! : ) | 18:13 |
| henrynash | heck, gyee: how much more complicated will the policy engine parsing need to be because we have made it multi-project/domain? | 18:13 |
| gyee | integrate | 18:13 |
| ayoung | heckj, I would state that we probably need a "georgraphic location blueprint" in Hoodvana | 18:13 |
| heckj | gyee: totally agree - I was viewing these changes more as needed exceptions to an otherwise locked down spec, not reopening for a free-for-all | 18:14 |
| ayoung | joesavak thanks for responding on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/ and we were discussing the need for others to kick in input there, too | 18:14 |
| heckj | ayoung: yep, region has been ill defined far too long in terms of implication and rational use. Needs to be codified, esp. as some of the large implementations are using it actively | 18:14 |
| joesavak | np - thanks ayoung (just got back to my desk) | 18:15 |
| ayoung | joesavak, I taake it your response was "really close but some nits" no? | 18:15 |
| gyee | henrynash, I am fine with removing multi* scoping | 18:15 |
| heckj | just at a quick read, I have a few quesitons on the data - what do various specific keys mean, that sort of thing. | 18:15 |
| joesavak | i think we need to make it clearer what is meant by domain_id and domain_name when authN and domain_id and domain_name when scoping | 18:16 |
| henrynash | gyee: I'm just asking the question…you may be right that we should include it…. | 18:16 |
| joesavak | gyee nailed it in his reply - just need to add it to the md | 18:16 |
| ayoung | kewl | 18:16 |
| gyee | alrighty then | 18:17 |
| gyee | so we are leaving service catalog as is for now? | 18:17 |
| ayoung | gyee, yes | 18:17 |
| gyee | w00t! | 18:17 |
| heckj | what's in the etherpad, and what's in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/3/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md are somewhat different. Is the review the active discussion for lock down? | 18:17 |
| ayoung | until we have geographic location blueprint. We are not ad-hocking that one | 18:17 |
| heckj | ayoung: ++ | 18:17 |
| ayoung | heckj, etherpad is active discussion. | 18:18 |
| gyee | heckj, I'll sync up etherpad and identity-api | 18:18 |
| ayoung | that should drive the review, and they should be in agreement | 18:18 |
| ayoung | gyee, +1 | 18:18 |
| heckj | Okay - sounds good, thanks gyee | 18:18 |
| ayoung | On to SQL? | 18:18 |
| heckj | #topic SQL ick | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | OK, so We want to have good testing | 18:19 |
| ayoung | and we are a data driven app | 18:19 |
| ayoung | hencergoqed we need to do good Database testing. | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | And...might I include LDAP in there.... | 18:20 |
| topol | yes, include LDAP | 18:20 |
| ayoung | so, one of my efforts has been to clear the way to run our unit tests against a live DB, and henrynash is doing the same | 18:20 |
| ayoung | and...might I add | 18:20 |
| ayoung | topol is getting devstack wired up for LDAP support for the same reason | 18:20 |
| ayoung | so...on the SQL front, we are seeing a couple issues | 18:21 |
| ayoung | 1. SQLite is drainbed | 18:21 |
| gyee | ppl use sqlite in production?!!! | 18:21 |
| ayoung | it won't let us alter things we really nead sqlite | 18:21 |
| ayoung | gyee, no | 18:21 |
| ayoung | no | 18:21 |
| ayoung | a thousand times no | 18:21 |
| ayoung | so, of course someone is doing it somewhere | 18:21 |
| ayoung | but they are wrong | 18:21 |
| ayoung | but...the sqlupgrade scripts get tested against sqlite | 18:22 |
| ayoung | cuz...how else are you going to test them? | 18:22 |
| gyee | mongo? | 18:22 |
| gyee | wait, that's not sql | 18:22 |
| gyee | carry on | 18:22 |
| ayoung | gyee, bite your tongue...er fingers? | 18:22 |
| heckj | worth a side bar here - I know of two back-end implementations (private) against KV stores or DHT's as well - not just SQL | 18:23 |
| ayoung | gyee, I suspect henrynash and comapny might add DB2 support at some point | 18:23 |
| ayoung | and someone is going to ask about mssql and Oracle | 18:23 |
| henrynash | ayoung: yep, already underway | 18:23 |
| ayoung | but we'll burn those bridges when we get there | 18:23 |
| henrynash | (not be me, however) | 18:23 |
| ayoung | bottom line, we need a ver y low common denominator | 18:23 |
| ayoung | so...we are going to have to hack the scripts to work with sqlite and with all the others...or do some nastiness for sql lite and different nastiness for the others | 18:24 |
| heckj | ayoung: presumably that's not sqlite | 18:24 |
| heckj | sorry - I'll wait | 18:24 |
| ayoung | dfor now, I am going to suggest we are going to assume we can't alter tables | 18:24 |
| ayoung | and do the copy thing, and resetup constraints, and the like | 18:24 |
| ayoung | if that gets too nasty, we can do the table renames for postgres and the other grown ups, and do something different for sqlite | 18:25 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so I have worked through many of the issues, like, you….and I think once I add the change you suggested), we'll have a good upgrade/downgrade that works for sqlite, mysql etc…..manages the foreign key constraints etc. | 18:25 |
| ayoung | I've just worked through my first unified one of this for tenant_to_project | 18:25 |
| ayoung | henrynash, very good | 18:25 |
| ayoung | henrynash, are you doing this for the existing tests? | 18:26 |
| ayoung | 013 and below? | 18:26 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: yes….I think they all run now (assuming you fix works for closing sessions) | 18:26 |
| ayoung | So, the second issue is the hang | 18:26 |
| ayoung | I think it is safe to say each of the scripts need to run stand alone | 18:27 |
| ayoung | thus, any that open a session need to do | 18:27 |
| ayoung | session.commit() and session.close() at the end | 18:27 |
| heckj | ayoung: to tie up the first issue - let's add a segment in the README/HACKING or docs that explicitly states that we should assume we can't alter tables for the migration pieces to codify that for now | 18:27 |
| ayoung | and, I think that this means that, for example, dropping tables should be done like this: | 18:27 |
| ayoung | session.execute("drop table user_tenant_membership") | 18:27 |
| ayoung | heckj, how about one we work out the issues, we will do a comprehensive overhall of the hacking for SQL upgrade/downgrade? There are a few best practicies there | 18:28 |
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| ayoung | but lets do the woprk to figure them all out first? | 18:28 |
| henrynash | ayoung: agreed | 18:28 |
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| heckj | ayoung: sounds good | 18:29 |
| ayoung | heckj, please open a bug for that, and assign to henrynash | 18:29 |
| * ayoung ducks | 18:29 | |
| henrynash | ayoung: :-) | 18:29 |
| heckj | bug or blueprint? Happy to do either, seems a bit more like a blueprint, but whatever | 18:29 |
| heckj | henrynash: pref? | 18:29 |
| ayoung | heckj, bug is sufficient | 18:29 |
| heckj | kk - will do | 18:30 |
| ayoung | "HACKING does not reflect actual best pracices on upgrades." | 18:30 |
| gyee | ayoung, there will be no sql-injections right? :) | 18:30 |
| henrynash | ayoung: do you think we need to work though all the other the regular (i.e. non upgrade) tests….I think we may have some issue with foreign keys not pointing to anything... | 18:30 |
| ayoung | henrynash, quite likely | 18:30 |
| heckj | #action heckj to open "HACKING does not reflect actual best pracices on upgrades." bug for henrynash | 18:30 |
| henrynash | heckj: bug is fine…and yes, assign to me | 18:31 |
| ayoung | henrynash, the thing is, once the upgrade runs, we should have a working database, so it makes sense to use the upgrade to get the database in setUp | 18:31 |
| henrynash | young absolutely | 18:31 |
| ayoung | We'll keep beating on them until they run | 18:31 |
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| heckj | ayoung: what was the second issue there? | 18:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: since domain_id as FKs all other the place, makes sense for me to fix it all | 18:32 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I think those were the bug issues with SQL. topol might find comparable thing with the LDAP tests once we get there, but that is a tale for a different day | 18:32 |
| ayoung | heckj, the hang | 18:32 |
| heckj | ah - kk | 18:32 |
| ayoung | heckj, I was seeing the hang happen on table renames | 18:32 |
| ayoung | and I think that is also a session commit issue | 18:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: saw that too | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | thus, I think the short of it is that all of the migrate work is best done using the session commands directly unless we can trace down that the sqlalchmey later commits | 18:33 |
| heckj | sounds like that's reasonable wrapped up then | 18:33 |
| ayoung | yeah, everything but the coding | 18:33 |
| heckj | not ideal, but yeah | 18:33 |
| ayoung | which leads me into | 18:33 |
| heckj | o_O | 18:34 |
| ayoung | Project to Tenant change over | 18:34 |
| heckj | #topic Project to Tenant change over | 18:34 |
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| henrynash | hopefully that other way round... | 18:34 |
| ayoung | heh | 18:34 |
| ayoung | yeah | 18:34 |
| ayoung | make that tenant to project | 18:34 |
| heckj | heh | 18:34 |
| heckj | summary of issues? | 18:34 |
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| heckj | Or jsut a shit ton of work to do related to that? | 18:35 |
| ayoung | OK, so I have been trying to do this in reasonable sized patches | 18:35 |
| ayoung | but it is kindof arbitraty where I split them | 18:35 |
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| ayoung | gyee acked the first, and it is merging now | 18:35 |
| heckj | ayoung: fwiw - I didn't think there'd be any way to do this easily | 18:35 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20516/ | 18:35 |
| ayoung | the second is also just internal code changes | 18:35 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/ | 18:36 |
| ayoung | I'll need to address those issues, but they are not insurmountable | 18:36 |
| ayoung | er https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20534/ | 18:36 |
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| ayoung | 20524 is not relevant to this discussion, sorry | 18:36 |
| ayoung | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20534/ | 18:36 |
| heckj | #action all - review please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20534/ | 18:37 |
| ayoung | Brent has done a decent first pass, and flushed out a few issues | 18:37 |
| ayoung | to complete the task, however is going to require something like this | 18:37 |
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| ayoung | http://www.fpaste.org/wXdI/ | 18:39 |
| ayoung | Don't link that as it is ephemeral | 18:39 |
| heckj | kk | 18:39 |
| ayoung | But bascially converting tenant to project on the way in, and project->tenant on the way out | 18:40 |
| heckj | Yeah, something equiv for the whole docs tree will probably be useful | 18:40 |
| heckj | (sorry, docs project) | 18:40 |
| ayoung | I can't post as a WIP yet, as gerrit will convert my other patches to WIP | 18:40 |
| gyee | ayoung, I wonder if its easier to do the conversion at the middleware and leave the internal along | 18:40 |
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| gyee | alone | 18:41 |
| gyee | clients doesn't care about the internals | 18:41 |
| heckj | gyee: maybe short term, but that's just inviting more confusion as we go down the road | 18:41 |
| ayoung | gyee, that is sort of the idea | 18:41 |
| ayoung | but we'll do the conversion on the controllers | 18:41 |
| ayoung | it should only be for V2 calls | 18:41 |
| heckj | I'm good with that | 18:42 |
| heckj | (for V2 translation calls) | 18:42 |
| ayoung | Yeah, V3 should be project only | 18:42 |
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| gyee | yeah | 18:42 |
| gyee | we can phase out the internal data structure over time | 18:42 |
| ayoung | I'm going to get it working, and then I'll see if I can split the patch up into a tenant-project portion and a membership->roles portion | 18:43 |
| heckj | word | 18:43 |
| ayoung | so likely to be 2 more patches with significant code impact, befor I can resubmit trusts | 18:43 |
| ayoung | needless to say, this is what I am working on for the rest of the release | 18:43 |
| heckj | I'll keep an eye for reviewing to keep it moving along | 18:43 |
| ayoung | that and code reviews, of course | 18:43 |
| henrynash | ayoung: there is other filtering needed too (for instance I filter out domain_id from entities depending on whether it is a v2 or v3 call….its in my WIP) | 18:43 |
| ayoung | trusts is mostly done except for delete... | 18:44 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'll post my WIP to git hub. 1 sec | 18:44 |
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| ayoung | #link https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/tree/replace-tenant-user-membership | 18:45 |
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| ayoung | I'm not going to be looking for comments there, but the code is available | 18:46 |
| heckj | ayoung: nice, thanks | 18:46 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: +1 | 18:46 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/commit/39fa4839feac4b720295e857109f63962b7343ac#L6L1 shows the sql hack I am currently doing | 18:47 |
| heckj | mind if we switch over to talking a bit about current blueprints and status? | 18:47 |
| heckj | (want to get updates prepped for the release mtg today) | 18:47 |
| ayoung | heckj, the conch is yours | 18:47 |
| heckj | I'm seeing the following blueprints all at significant risk of not getting completed in grizzly-3 given work remaining: | 18:48 |
| ayoung | delegation of keystone servers. Not started. Deferred to H | 18:48 |
| heckj | Token trusts | 18:48 |
| heckj | Role assignment to a domain should be more flexible | 18:48 |
| ayoung | token trusts should make it | 18:48 |
| heckj | Pluggable Identity Authentication Handlers | 18:48 |
| gyee | working on it | 18:48 |
| heckj | Multi-factor-authentication | 18:48 |
| heckj | Additional metadata for endpoint templating | 18:48 |
| gyee | MFA is a maybe | 18:48 |
| gyee | but not sure | 18:48 |
| ayoung | Multi factor is built on the Auth API | 18:48 |
| heckj | I know these are all getting active work - the question is will they really get done in the next 3-4 weeks? | 18:49 |
| gyee | right | 18:49 |
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| gyee | I can wired up google authenticator | 18:49 |
| ayoung | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone | 18:49 |
| gyee | if I have time | 18:49 |
| gyee | the authn proposal should lay the plumbing for MFA | 18:50 |
| heckj | so I'm thinking defer MFA to "H" | 18:50 |
| heckj | based on gyee finishing up plugg'd authn in the next couple of weeks | 18:50 |
| ayoung | heckj, sort of | 18:50 |
| gyee | k | 18:50 |
| ayoung | heckj, MFA was always "we will lay the groundwork" | 18:51 |
| ayoung | so I think full impl will require comminuty contrib anyway | 18:51 |
| henrynash | heckj: role assignments to a domain is done really, is part of domain scoping | 18:51 |
| heckj | henrynash: yeah, sorry - saw that after the fact | 18:51 |
| ayoung | the groundwork for MFA should be in place with the V3 auth api, though | 18:51 |
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| gyee | ayoung, yes, the current authn API should cover that | 18:52 |
| heckj | so for the next 3-4 meetings, let's have a progress update on all open blueprints to make sure we keep track and can adjust release appropriately. That cool with y'all? | 18:52 |
| henrynash | domain scoping: almost all complete, expect for linking to v3 auth | 18:52 |
| gyee | it has support for both plugin and multi-roundtrip auths | 18:52 |
| henrynash | domain name spaces: fine once we get domain scoping & v3 auth | 18:52 |
| gyee | heckj, sounds good | 18:52 |
| dwchadwick | adding-idps-to-service-catalog is finished coding | 18:52 |
| henrynash | heckj: +1 | 18:52 |
| heckj | cool - updating the BPs - if folks run into things that assert otherwise, please holler | 18:53 |
| ayoung | trusts will be ready to go. It gates on project->tenant, but that will fall | 18:53 |
| heckj | gyee: plgguable authn is reporting on blocked - doesn't sound accurate | 18:54 |
| ayoung | heckj, no, that is right | 18:55 |
| ayoung | blocked on V3 auth api... | 18:55 |
| gyee | right | 18:55 |
| gyee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/3/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md | 18:55 |
| gyee | once we get a +4 on it, it will be unblocked | 18:55 |
| heckj | kk | 18:56 |
| gyee | I'll pushing another patch today | 18:56 |
| gyee | hopefully we can freeze that one | 18:56 |
| heckj | Okay - BP's updated, thanks guys | 18:56 |
| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:57 |
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| heckj | for all 3 minutes left | 18:57 |
| gyee | is jaypipes around? | 18:57 |
| gyee | I would like to get his opinion on the endpoint versioning | 18:57 |
| jaypipes | gyee: yes, sorry, been on phone.. trying to read back. | 18:57 |
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| henrynash | is devstack keystone v3 capable yet? | 18:57 |
| gyee | and what the service catalog should look like | 18:58 |
| heckj | henrynash: not as yet. authn sort of critical in that flow.. dtroyer has been helping move that forward tho | 18:58 |
| henrynash | heckj: ok, thx | 18:58 |
| gyee | jaypipes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524/3/openstack-identity-api/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md | 18:59 |
| gyee | line 1137 | 18:59 |
| jaypipes | yes? | 19:00 |
| gyee | dolphm's comment | 19:00 |
| gyee | can you chime in on that? | 19:00 |
| jaypipes | sure, one sec, offf phone now for a second and reading.. | 19:00 |
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| heckj | gotta wrap this meeting - continue on #dev? | 19:01 |
| gyee | current plan is to go with what we have | 19:01 |
| heckj | #endmeeting keystone | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 19:01:12 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-29-17.59.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-29-17.59.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-29-17.59.log.html | 19:01 |
| fungi | clarkb: you'll probably want to startmeeting. i just updated my laptop this morning and it's frozen on me thrice since. bad timing on my part | 19:01 |
| clarkb | k | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 19:01:37 2013 UTC. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| fungi | olaph: sends his regards. said he has no news on his topics this week but will likely have a lot of updates next week | 19:02 |
| fungi | so we probably want to just reapply his action items from the last meeting | 19:02 |
| clarkb | I haven't thrown an agenda together. Did jeblair add one to the wiki? if not, things we should cover: CLA, wiki, recheck enforcement, zuul queue priority | 19:02 |
| fungi | i looked at the agenda from last week and it looked relevant | 19:03 |
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| fungi | oh, he did | 19:03 |
| fungi | Wiki: Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (last edited 2013-01-29 05:30:39 by JamesBlair) | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | well lets just run through them. anyone other than olaph have updates from last weeks actions? | 19:04 |
| fungi | quantal slaves | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic quantal slaves | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantal slaves (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/20638 | 19:05 |
| fungi | once that merges, we should be set to be able to do what we expect with the static quantal slaves | 19:05 |
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| fungi | questions there, or do we move on to the next action item? | 19:06 |
| clarkb | yeah, can you quickly check that it continues to work on oneiric too? | 19:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, sure. as in puppet runs clean | 19:07 |
| fungi | i'll check that | 19:07 |
| clarkb | and if it does, I think we should just go ahead and merge it as jeblair and mordred probably won't have time to review and I don't want that to block your progress on quantal | 19:07 |
| fungi | sure | 19:07 |
| fungi | i'm not quite sure where it goes to head in the direction of tempest on quantal though, since we'll need a new devstack slave pool | 19:07 |
| fungi | oh, wait, that says quantum not quantal | 19:08 |
| fungi | okay, so next topic, cla stuff | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #topic CLA | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CLA (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:08 | |
| fungi | announcement sent last week, and project management wiki splatted out there | 19:09 |
| fungi | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Project_Group_Management | 19:09 |
| clarkb | we still on track for the 24th? | 19:09 |
| fungi | nobody has told me otherwise | 19:09 |
| clarkb | cool (wasn't sure if the announcement had received push back) | 19:10 |
| fungi | also toddmorey got back to me last night and we'll set up a call this afternoon to update him with the new application security key | 19:10 |
| fungi | *nobody* has replied to the announcement. eerie | 19:10 |
| clarkb | will there be more prep changes that need to be done ahead of time or are we set until the change day? | 19:11 |
| fungi | i want to stage a couple more documentation updates while we're waiting, but they're small | 19:11 |
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| fungi | and also i need to review what's necessary to set all the non-system groups in gerrit to self-managed. not sure if that's doable through configuration management yet | 19:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: you will need to make a change to jeepyb so that the manage-projects script defaults to self managed group creation | 19:12 |
| fungi | might be a manual thing, though the ultimate goal is to be able to automate group creation as part of project bootstrapping | 19:12 |
| fungi | yeah, that | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I am not sure what is necessary for existing groups | 19:12 |
| clarkb | anything else on the new CLA? | 19:13 |
| fungi | right. i'm thinking probably a "always member" option to seed a new group with a specific account too, and ensure that account (if listed) is in the group. we can enforce group configuration at the same time | 19:13 |
| fungi | nothing else on cla | 19:13 |
| clarkb | I am excited for this | 19:14 |
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| annegentle | fungi: where did the announcement go to? | 19:14 |
| fungi | i am excited to have it behind me and be able to focus more on new stuff ;) | 19:14 |
| fungi | annegentle: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | 19:14 |
| fungi | let me dig up a link | 19:14 |
| annegentle | fungi: yes please I'd like to take a look | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-January/004951.html | 19:15 |
| fungi | you beat me by mere seconds | 19:15 |
| annegentle | heh I just read the Gerrit unavailability and didn't read the rest | 19:15 |
| * annegentle hangs head | 19:15 | |
| clarkb | #topic Jenkins Slave Operating Systems | 19:16 |
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| fungi | rhel! | 19:16 |
| clarkb | other than progress on Quantal is there anything else on this topic? | 19:16 |
| fungi | the progress on quantal was made fin by trying to make sure i didn't break rhel slaves without having any on hand | 19:17 |
| clarkb | fungi: dprince I haven't followed the creation of rhel slaves too closely. Do you guys know what is going on there? | 19:17 |
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| fungi | er, made fun | 19:17 |
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| fungi | dprince: if you've been previously testing those, you might want to confirm 20638 is safe and doesn't mess with anything rhel | 19:17 |
| fungi | i'll throw you on as an optional reviewer | 19:18 |
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| fungi | but i know nothing else beyond that. i think jeblair was more involved in the early phases than the rest of us | 19:18 |
| clarkb | yes, I believe he has been trying to sort out that it is ok for us to spin up lots of rhel nodes for testing | 19:19 |
| fungi | though i see we have a rhel test slave in rs nova | 19:19 |
| clarkb | and he did the testing of dprince's changes | 19:19 |
| fungi | and i thought i saw in #-dev scrollback mordred saying something about progress on the licensing situation there | 19:20 |
| fungi | er, no, in #-infra scrollback | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | we'll need to wait for them to update us on the licensing situation I think | 19:21 |
| fungi | agreed | 19:21 |
| clarkb | ready for the next topic? | 19:21 |
| fungi | maybe add an action item for that | 19:21 |
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| fungi | always fun to assign stuff to absentees | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #action mordred,jeblair update CI team on RHEL licensing situation | 19:22 |
| fungi | and yeah, tempest next i guess | 19:22 |
| clarkb | #topic Tempest gating (and quantum) | 19:22 |
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| fungi | on again off again quantum gating | 19:22 |
| fungi | it's on again, right? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | yes quantum is on | 19:22 |
| clarkb | tempest smokestack tests with quantum are enabled across the board and are voting | 19:23 |
| fungi | is there anything to discuss about it? other than that it's on i mean? | 19:23 |
| clarkb | tempets full with quantum is enabled on tempest changes but is only non voting | 19:23 |
| fungi | ahh, okay | 19:23 |
| clarkb | I think people wanted to discuss the various test optimization options available to us | 19:23 |
| fungi | as far as partitioning, selective testing, et cetera? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | jaypipes: davidkranz sdague Did you guys want to talk about that now or give us an update on tempest +testr etc | 19:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes | 19:24 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ^ you too | 19:24 |
| clarkb | We can get back to this if they see the highlights | 19:25 |
| clarkb | #topic Wiki Migration | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Wiki Migration (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:25 | |
| clarkb | annegentle: fungi we had a thread bounce around that seemed to settle on february 16 or 17 for the actual migration | 19:26 |
| jaypipes | clarkb: no update from me on that | 19:26 |
| annegentle | clarkb: I am fine with a weekend day | 19:26 |
| annegentle | clarkb: which still doesn't decide between a Sat. or Sun. :) | 19:26 |
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| Ryan_Lane | o/ | 19:26 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm good with whatever day everyone else settled on, which is why i wasn't being particularly noisy on the e-mail thread | 19:26 |
| clarkb | Ryan_Lane: hi there, I think we have settled on february 16 or 17 for the migration change | 19:27 |
| sdague | clarkb: sorry, just saw the ping | 19:27 |
| clarkb | Ryan_Lane: did you have a preference and do those dates work for you? | 19:27 |
| clarkb | sdague: thats ok, can swing back to it after the wiki stuff | 19:27 |
| sdague | sure | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | yep. fine with me | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | just FYI, that's president's day weekend in the states | 19:28 |
| clarkb | we should settle on a day so that annegentle can send the announcement (I think annegentle was given that task in the email thread) | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | (in case that makes a different to anyone :)) | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | difference | 19:28 |
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| annegentle | pleia2: good point, my kids will have school off that Monday | 19:29 |
| clarkb | #startvote Wiki migration day? 16, 17 | 19:29 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Wiki migration day? Valid vote options are 16, 17. | 19:29 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:29 |
| annegentle | #vote 17 | 19:29 |
| fungi | #vote 17 | 19:29 |
| clarkb | #vote 17 | 19:29 |
| clarkb | anyone else? | 19:30 |
| clarkb | (probably didn't need the vote function but I wanted to use it :) ) | 19:30 |
| fungi | it's fun | 19:30 |
| annegentle | it's like putting off homework until Sunday night :) | 19:30 |
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| torgomatic | ]\' | 19:30 |
| torgomatic | \ | 19:30 |
| torgomatic | \ | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | I'll be out of town, but you probably won't need me anyway for this | 19:30 |
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| fungi | which is why i went for active assent instead of passive assent | 19:30 |
| torgomatic | sorry, toddler got my keyboard | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | #endvote | 19:31 |
| openstack | Voted on "Wiki migration day?" Results are | 19:31 |
| openstack | 17 (3): clarkb, fungi, annegentle | 19:31 |
| clarkb | February 17th for the wiki migration then | 19:31 |
| annegentle | #action annegentle to send note to mailing list with Feb. 17th wiki migration date | 19:32 |
| clarkb | Ryan_Lane: olaph wasn't able to join us, but where are we on being ready for the 17th? | 19:32 |
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| clarkb | I think all the image upload stuff is working. Is the last bit the skin? | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. skin | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's just css and logo | 19:32 |
| clarkb | #action olaph finish skinning wiki-staging.o.o in prep for wiki migration | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | so it can be done without modifying a skin | 19:33 |
| clarkb | anything else we need to cover on the wiki migration? | 19:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | I think puppet is still switching the wiki to the master branch | 19:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | was my change ever merged? | 19:33 |
| * clarkb looks | 19:33 | |
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| clarkb | it isn't in my review queue which means probably | 19:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. it was | 19:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | I probably just need to switch the branch | 19:34 |
| annegentle | Is there a way to get a list of expected "fixes" people should do? tables, images, columns, anything else? | 19:34 |
| clarkb | I think Ryan_Lane had a list somewhere | 19:35 |
| fungi | probably want to test metastuff like pages written with different preprocessors, admonishments, categories | 19:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | I think we still need a youtube extension | 19:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, it's mostly obvious what is broken when looking at pages | 19:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | we can make a list, though | 19:37 |
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| annegentle | Let's make a list... | 19:37 |
| fungi | how many pages do we have at last count? easy enough to just browse them all or will we need to divide and conquer? | 19:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | last time I went through this I looked at the old wiki and the new wiki and compared | 19:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | last time I checked it was easy enough to browse | 19:37 |
| clarkb | so thats three things. a list of fixing, git management and puppet, and a youtube extension. Who will be working on these things? | 19:37 |
| annegentle | https://etherpad.openstack.org/wikimigrationemail I'll start a list | 19:37 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/wikimigrationemail | 19:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | git management I'm fixing now | 19:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | I can also handle the youtube extension | 19:38 |
| clarkb | #action Ryan_Lane to fix mediawiki git interaction and add youtube extension | 19:38 |
| clarkb | anything else? | 19:39 |
| clarkb | doesn't sound like it | 19:39 |
| fungi | doesn't sound like it. i guess we should swing back to tempest stuff while we have qa peeps | 19:39 |
| clarkb | #topic Tempest gating (and quantum) | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | sdague: ready? | 19:40 |
| sdague | sure | 19:40 |
| sdague | ok, so we're still probably about 2 weeks out from testr conversion | 19:40 |
| sdague | the unittest -> testtools did go in yesterday | 19:40 |
| sdague | so that's progressing well | 19:41 |
| clarkb | woot | 19:41 |
| sdague | total gate run time for tempest is around 45 - 55 minutes | 19:41 |
| clarkb | sdague: that is when running the full test suite? | 19:41 |
| sdague | which is only about 12 - 15 mins more than smoke | 19:41 |
| sdague | yes | 19:41 |
| sdague | so, honestly, it would be really nice to turn on full gate prior to testr if possible | 19:42 |
| clarkb | are we still seeing much longer run times on rackspace? | 19:42 |
| sdague | I don't have that timing atm, jeblair might | 19:42 |
| clarkb | it is available from statsd somehow | 19:42 |
| fungi | i was trying to figure out how to conjure it out of graphite.o.o last week | 19:43 |
| fungi | i think i found where the majic is, but my mojo is still lacking | 19:43 |
| sdague | my ideal scenario would be to get full gate turned on as soon as possible, as we continue to watch bugs creep in that we would have caught | 19:43 |
| * ttx yawns | 19:44 | |
| clarkb | sdague: and by turning on the full gate you mean run all projects against the entire tempest suite? | 19:44 |
| sdague | I think nova, cinder, keystone for sure | 19:44 |
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| sdague | the glance tests aren't really any different from smoke to full | 19:45 |
| sdague | quantum is it's own beast | 19:45 |
| clarkb | and quantum appears to be failing the full suite at the moment | 19:45 |
| sdague | and swift kind of is as well, they are just putting the tests in now | 19:45 |
| sdague | and, obvious, tempest does nothing for horizon | 19:45 |
| clarkb | sounds like we will need to do some planning so that we aren't over or under testing | 19:46 |
| clarkb | sdague: do you think you could send mail to the openstack-infra maillist so that we can get this conversation going with mordred and jeblair too? | 19:47 |
| sdague | yeh, I guess the real question is overall CI throughput | 19:47 |
| sdague | sure, I'll sort of continue the jeblair email thread from last week | 19:47 |
| ttx | sdague: throughput is greatly affected by the number of flaky tests, though | 19:47 |
| sdague | get that back out onto lists | 19:47 |
| mordred | clarkb: what? | 19:47 |
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| mordred | oh - good morning. is it ci meeting time? | 19:47 |
| clarkb | mordred: it is, good morning | 19:47 |
| sdague | ttx: the flaky issues seem to be nailed at this point in tempest | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I am wary of making large gate decisions like that without input from jeblair | 19:48 |
| sdague | they were mostly overrunning the guest resources | 19:48 |
| sdague | clarkb: yep, I'm fine with that | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I am all for running more of the tempest suite though :) | 19:48 |
| ttx | sdague: I wouldn't say that. Been pushing security fixes that pass all tests for the last 5 hours | 19:48 |
| sdague | ttx: which things are flaking? | 19:49 |
| ttx | they just hit various issues, all documented in rechecks | 19:49 |
| ttx | Bug 1056213 | 19:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056213 in openstack-ci "Flakey build failures in some volume tests" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056213 | 19:49 |
| ttx | Bug 1102892 | 19:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1102892 in glance "Fragile Test: glance.tests.functional.test_bin_glance_control.TestGlanceControl.test_respawn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102892 | 19:49 |
| ttx | Bug 1108985 | 19:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1108985 in glance "Spurious ECONNREFUSED errors during Glance unit tests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1108985 | 19:49 |
| fungi | the rechecks page is really becoming useful | 19:50 |
| fungi | #link http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ | 19:50 |
| ttx | sdague: not all of those are tempest... my point is that adding more tests will only add to that list | 19:50 |
| sdague | ttx: well unit tests are out of scope for this, and I agree glance is under tested | 19:50 |
| clarkb | #action sdague send mail to openstack-infra list to kick off discussion on running full tempest on more projects | 19:50 |
| sdague | ttx: so we've got hourlies running full tempest at this point that are consistently passing | 19:51 |
| ttx | and the number of flaky tests affects throughput a lot more than single test duration | 19:51 |
| sdague | and have been for over a month | 19:51 |
| ttx | sdague: i'm all for more tests, just saying that we need to address falikness when it's detected | 19:51 |
| ttx | flakiness* | 19:52 |
| sdague | ttx: sure, were these on master or stable/ | 19:52 |
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| ttx | some of them were on stable/* | 19:52 |
| sdague | because a lot of work was done on master to get rid of the flakiness, more than would be really suitable to backport to tempest/stable | 19:52 |
| ttx | anyway, don't want to disrupt the meeting with my pet peeve of today | 19:53 |
| clarkb | ok, anything else we want to bring up about tempest? | 19:53 |
| sdague | ttx: yes, that's fair. Definitely working to close those bugs if they exist | 19:53 |
| ttx | because that flakiness is the primary factor affecting throughput | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | this gives us about five minutes for $OTHER things | 19:54 |
| ttx | mordred: got a chance to talk to jeblair about publishing python-swiftclient 1.3.0 to PyPI ? | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I will be changing the console log timestamp format on jenkins.o.o and merging my logstash puppet change later today (FYI) | 19:55 |
| mordred | ttx: not since last we spoke | 19:55 |
| mordred | ttx: I just woke up and havent' seen him yet | 19:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: i'm in favor | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | if I get around to it I will also be fixing puppet dashboard (upgrading to a version not vulnerable to the rails vulnerability) | 19:55 |
| ttx | mordred: if a permanent fix is not acceptable, would be good to just do a one-off manual publication to fix the immediate issue | 19:56 |
| fungi | we've also got a stack of jjb patches ready to be merged, and it would be nice to tag a new git-review release soonish | 19:56 |
| clarkb | and depending on how much work I feel like doing today I may install my zmq plugin and restart jenkins tonight when the queues are quiet | 19:56 |
| pleia2 | working on my reviewday action item, but it's requiring some reviewday patches before we can deploy it in our infrastructure so that's ongoing | 19:57 |
| clarkb | ttx: mordred we may need to do a manual release because the tarball job borked? | 19:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: yeah | 19:57 |
| mordred | well, we're going to need to do a manual _something_ regardless | 19:58 |
| ttx | mordred: my problem with delaying the fix is that we won't necessarily know when the next PTL will push a tag | 19:58 |
| mordred | then there is also the question of the right way to fix the bork | 19:58 |
| mordred | ttx: I agree with that | 19:58 |
| khaido | i'm almost ready to send a big git review for gearman-jenkins plugin. | 19:58 |
| ttx | whereas we know we need to push support to all projects before g3 | 19:58 |
| fungi | khaido: awesome! | 19:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: ttx let me know if/when decisions are made and if you need someone to push the buttons | 19:59 |
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| khaido | yeah. clarkb help me rewrite history. | 19:59 |
| fungi | i'm happy to do so as well, if i'm still awake | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | and we are out of time | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 20:00:11 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-29-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-29-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-29-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | thanks for chairing, clarkb :) | 20:00 |
| fungi | indeed | 20:00 |
| fungi | and thanks to my laptop for giong an hour without freezing up | 20:00 |
| fungi | er, going | 20:01 |
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| ttx | No TC meeting this week. Next show in 55 min. | 20:05 |
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| ttx | markmc, heckj, notmyname, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:01 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yes | 21:01 |
| notmyname | here | 21:01 |
| gabrielhurley | \o | 21:01 |
| jgriffith | here | 21:01 |
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| ttx | ... | 21:01 |
| markmc | hey | 21:01 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:02 |
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| ttx | guess we have enough to start. heckj and danwent can join us in the middle | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:02 |
| danwent | ttx: here | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 21:02:34 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:02 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:02 |
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| ttx | So we now have a code name for next cycle: "Havana" | 21:03 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | I'll proceed and create series in Launchpad as appropriate | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #action ttx to create havana series in LP projects | 21:03 |
| markmc | wow, that's surprising | 21:03 |
| markmc | hood got beat | 21:03 |
| ttx | yes, generally the option I vote for wins. | 21:03 |
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| markmc | cheat | 21:03 |
| gabrielhurley | can we hvae the summit in Cuba? | 21:03 |
| danwent | makes we want to light up, and I don't even smoke | 21:03 |
| heckj | o_O | 21:04 |
| markmc | I always thought there were two 'n's in Havanna | 21:04 |
| * markmc shrugs | 21:04 | |
| sdake_z | i'll smoke one for you danwent | 21:04 |
| ttx | markmc: how is 2012.2.3 going ? | 21:04 |
| markmc | ttx, pretty much ready to go | 21:04 |
| soren | markmc: Double consonants in Spanish are extremely rare. | 21:04 |
| markmc | we had a couple of patches merged accidentally post-freeze | 21:04 |
| markmc | one of which caused a regression in quantum | 21:04 |
| markmc | but we caught it, so ... | 21:05 |
| markmc | no other issues reported since the call for testing | 21:05 |
| ttx | the two security patches finally made their way in | 21:05 |
| markmc | #info 2012.2.3 will be released on Jan 31 | 21:05 |
| ttx | cool. | 21:05 |
| ttx | mordred/jeblair, annegentle, davidkranz/jaypipes: Update from CI/QA/Docs teams ? | 21:05 |
| mordred | ttx: we'll need attention from folks to get version patches landed by g3 | 21:06 |
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| ttx | mordred: sounds doable if both you and I chase them | 21:06 |
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| * mordred imagines ttx and mordred running around waving sticks at people | 21:07 | |
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| ttx | OK, let's jump into grizzly-3 status then | 21:07 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:07 |
| mordred | markmc, dhellmann: could you guys re-look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20431/ - I added a comment explaining | 21:07 |
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| markmc | mordred, will do | 21:07 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:07 |
| mordred | thx | 21:07 |
| markmc | #link https://github.com/openstack/oslo-config w00t! | 21:07 |
| ttx | Progress looks good | 21:07 |
| mordred | w00t! | 21:07 |
| ttx | wow | 21:07 |
| markmc | yeah, we're doing ok | 21:08 |
| markmc | common-db is the one that needs most attention, mine mostly | 21:08 |
| mordred | god, it's almost lke something worked there | 21:08 |
| ttx | mordred: don't get used to it too much | 21:08 |
| markmc | will do a release of oslo-config soon and aim to get all projects using it for grizzly-3 | 21:08 |
| ttx | markmc: You also need to push usage of the newly-published lib to the projects that use it, right ? | 21:08 |
| ttx | heh | 21:08 |
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| markmc | that | 21:08 |
| markmc | good idea | 21:08 |
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| ttx | Nothing else from me | 21:09 |
| ttx | Anything else on the oslo topic ? | 21:09 |
| markmc | might sneak one last feature into cfg | 21:09 |
| markmc | yeah, that's it from me | 21:09 |
| Vek | which would be? | 21:09 |
| markmc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/cfg-filter-view | 21:09 |
| markmc | basically, got a patch today to fix CONF.import_opt() | 21:10 |
| markmc | that blueprint is my alternate suggestion, written before the patch | 21:10 |
| markmc | don't like to nix the patch without implementing the alternative | 21:10 |
| * ttx moves on | 21:10 | |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:10 |
| markmc | thanks | 21:10 |
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| heckj | o/ | 21:10 |
| ttx | heckj: welcome back! | 21:10 |
| heckj | heh | 21:10 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:10 |
| heckj | removed some BP's earlier today from that list - updated status on other | 21:11 |
| ttx | You made some updates I see | 21:11 |
| ttx | delegation was dropped ? | 21:11 |
| heckj | request for action - some have already helped (thanks gabriel) - need review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524 | 21:11 |
| heckj | ttx: what you're thinking of delegation is encapsulated under "trusts" | 21:11 |
| ttx | heckj: sounds like a jedi mind trick | 21:12 |
| ttx | heckj: Do you have news about stop-ids-in-uris ? | 21:12 |
| heckj | re: review - I've spammed a number of folks directly, but that review conversation is key to implementing https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/stop-ids-in-uris | 21:12 |
| ttx | heckj: so it's on track but needs support on that review ? | 21:13 |
| heckj | and the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers is blocked on that setup | 21:13 |
| heckj | ttx: yes, exactly. And specifically, feedback from folks across openstack, as this impacts what authn/authz data can get passed to services, and the format of it | 21:13 |
| ttx | heckj, dolphm: default-domain seems to be progressing well, when do you think it will be completed ? | 21:13 |
| heckj | I think most of it is in right now - dolphm wasn't available earlier today to check in with on it | 21:14 |
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| ttx | heckj: should we have a blueprint for this v3 token API work ? Or should it be considered included in stop-ids-in-uris ? | 21:15 |
| heckj | I've been considering it covered in the stop-ids-in-urls | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok, sounds good | 21:15 |
| heckj | they're tightly coupled in implementation | 21:15 |
| ttx | About domain-name-spaces, domain-scoping: should they be pushed off Grizzly ? | 21:15 |
| ttx | domain-scoping seems to have code proposed... | 21:16 |
| ttx | (that's Henry Nash's blueprints) | 21:16 |
| heckj | It'll go in pretty easily, and there's very active work right now to make sure we can support V2 and V3 APi components simultaneously, so I do expect it to be there | 21:16 |
| ttx | so maybe we should target both to g3 ? | 21:17 |
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| heckj | If they make it, I'll pull them in - trying to be conservative now, and will be updating each week as we close on G3 deadline | 21:17 |
| ttx | ok | 21:17 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:17 |
| heckj | re: Docs - annegentle, etc - we're kicking in more reviews recently with DocImpact flags - just wanted to make sure you had a head's up | 21:18 |
| ttx | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20524 on Keystone critical path, reviews from other projects needed | 21:18 |
| annegentle | heckj: been seeing 'em :) | 21:18 |
| heckj | cool | 21:18 |
| annegentle | much appreciated | 21:18 |
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| ttx | heckj: anything else ? | 21:18 |
| heckj | good her | 21:18 |
| heckj | here | 21:18 |
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| ttx | thanks! | 21:19 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:19 |
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| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:19 |
| notmyname | good morning :-) | 21:19 |
| ttx | Swift 1.7.6 was released last week... | 21:19 |
| ttx | notmyname: stop bragging from down under :) | 21:19 |
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| ttx | python-swiftclient 1.3.0 is still blocked in the automatic publication process afaict | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | we had a little hiccup with the pypi release | 21:19 |
| notmyname | ah, not resolved yet? | 21:19 |
| ttx | notmyname: you need to beat mordred and jeblair with a stick | 21:19 |
| ttx | can't reach them from Europe | 21:19 |
| notmyname | ya, I'll probably see them in an hour or so | 21:20 |
| * notmyname sharpens his stick | 21:20 | |
| ttx | Next release on the map is: | 21:20 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.0 | 21:20 |
| notmyname | ya | 21:20 |
| ttx | Got any vague timeframe for that ? | 21:20 |
| notmyname | nope. when it's ready | 21:20 |
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| ttx | hopefully that won't be while i'm skiing. | 21:20 |
| ttx | Anything more on Swift ? | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | some interesting mailing list discussions, but no meeting things I can think of | 21:21 |
| notmyname | questions? | 21:21 |
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| ttx | no question, then... | 21:21 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:21 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:22 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: hello! | 21:22 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:22 |
| * ttx refreshes | 21:22 | |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: Looks like glance-api-v2-image-sharing is not making a lot of progress ? | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm drafting a tactical email for those invovled in g3 right now | 21:22 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: do you have news on that front ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: will get some info about that - the direction is defined, just waiting to see work happen | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: multiple image locations is making progress | 21:23 |
| ttx | How is glance-domain-logic-layer doing ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | a review came up this week for an iscsi store driver | 21:23 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: stalled a bit | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: these last few weeks are going to be tight | 21:23 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: yes, i'm not a big fan of introducing rootwrap to glance just for that, but meh | 21:23 |
| ttx | (importing-rootwarp and iscsi-backend-store) | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm not sold we should have an iscsi driver either | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | but I want to have a discussion about it | 21:24 |
| ttx | Those two blueprints are proposed to grizzly at this point | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | yes, that's the big thing to report this week | 21:24 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: there is a small drawback in adding rootwrap support, you add a potential root escalation hole where there wasn't any | 21:25 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: yes, the rootwrap concern may go away if we agree to go a different direction with the volume driver | 21:26 |
| ttx | so this represents additional cost in accepting that iscsi driver thing | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | ok, good to know | 21:26 |
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| ttx | well, I see you're on it :) | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yes sir | 21:26 |
| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: not from me | 21:27 |
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| ttx | would be nice to see some visible progress on glance-api-v2-image-sharing and (glance-domain-logic-layer or api-v2-property-protection) soon | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: you don't have to tell me twice :) | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: or whatever we're at now, 6 times or so | 21:28 |
| ttx | next week I may not remember anything, damn belgian beers | 21:28 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:28 |
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| danwent | hi | 21:28 |
| ttx | danwent: hi! | 21:29 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:29 |
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| danwent | down to 23 unmerged :) I've been booting things out that aren't showing progress | 21:29 |
| danwent | but still a tone | 21:29 |
| danwent | ton | 21:29 |
| ttx | Targeted to grizzly-3 but not approved in series goal yet: | 21:30 |
| danwent | so I've just been trying to focus the core team on 'high' or above, and setting expectations for others | 21:30 |
| ttx | brocade-quantum-plugin, quantum-floodlight-bigswitch-l3 | 21:30 |
| danwent | sorry, i will approve both of those. not sure the later will make it, but its that devs only BP, so i'm going to keep it targeted. | 21:30 |
| ttx | Looking into your "High" priority stuff... | 21:31 |
| ttx | are those reviews going well so far ? | 21:31 |
| danwent | xml is going well | 21:31 |
| danwent | OVS security group is blocked on a nova change, which was blocked on ML discussion, but should be good. | 21:32 |
| danwent | multi-agent stuff has reviweres, though there are some design discussions still happening | 21:32 |
| ttx | ok, sounds under control | 21:32 |
| ttx | Still two blueprints in the grizzly series goal but not in g3: | 21:32 |
| danwent | and the lbaas stuff just got posted for the review (with the haproxy driver being posted later this week) | 21:32 |
| ttx | quantum-v2-euca-compat, auto-associate-floating-ip | 21:33 |
| danwent | yeah, high BPs are under control | 21:33 |
| ttx | Should they be removed ? | 21:33 |
| danwent | yes, already out of G-3, and thus, shoudl be removed from grizzly overall. will do that. | 21:33 |
| ttx | danwent: I'll do it now | 21:33 |
| ttx | Anything else on Quantum ? | 21:33 |
| danwent | need to ping you about one other thing, but will do that via email | 21:34 |
| ttx | danwent: ok | 21:34 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:34 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: hi! | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | hey there | 21:34 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:34 |
| ttx | 8 blueprints have been proposed to grizzly-3 but not confirmed at: | 21:35 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/grizzly/+setgoals | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | grrr... | 21:35 |
| ttx | want me to approve them ? | 21:35 |
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| jgriffith | Not sure actually | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | I have some questions on a few of them | 21:36 |
| ttx | ok, will let you review them later then :) | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | Mind waiting and letting me sort through them with the owners? | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: thanks | 21:36 |
| ttx | #action jgriffith to review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/grizzly/+setgoals | 21:36 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: sorry, missed those | 21:36 |
| ttx | cinderclient-v2-support: what's the status of this ? Isn't that a python-cinderclient blueprint ? | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: correct | 21:37 |
| ttx | jgriffith: mind if I move it to python-cinderclient instead ? | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | no problem | 21:37 |
| ttx | update-snap-metadata: who is working on this ? What's the status ? | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | which one? | 21:38 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/update-snap-metadata | 21:38 |
| ttx | targeted but no assignee and unknwon status | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | got it | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | So I'll grab that one | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | just FYI, I've been having issues with folks going in approving, targetting and adding my name as approver | 21:39 |
| ttx | ok, set status to "Not started" while you're at it :) | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | without me actually knowing about the BP :) | 21:39 |
| ttx | yeah... the only thing you can prevent is the series goal setting | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | This one is not an example of that but anyway | 21:40 |
| ttx | Otherwise there seems to be slow progress on the high-prio stuff | 21:40 |
| ttx | I think we should remove local-storage-volume at this point... | 21:40 |
| ttx | unless you have fresh news ? | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Yeah, but the biggest problem is reviews | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | and yes, sadly that one is out it seems | 21:40 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ok if I remove it from g3/grizzly ? | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | yes | 21:41 |
| ttx | wow, a new one since this morning: coraid-volume-driver | 21:41 |
| ttx | cinder is popular in the scope creep department | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | yeah, literally 1 minute ago | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | ttx: tell me about | 21:41 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: all the vendors love the idea of cinder all of a sudden | 21:42 |
| ttx | now I understand why vish wanted it separate ;) | 21:42 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that makes two of us :( | 21:42 |
| ttx | Anything more in Cinder ? | 21:42 |
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| jgriffith | Nah... just driver after driver after driver | 21:42 |
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| ttx | ok then | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:42 |
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| ttx | vishy, russellb: o/ | 21:42 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:43 |
| vishy | hi | 21:43 |
| russellb | hey | 21:43 |
| ttx | Good progress overrall, though I'm fearing some review bottleneck around Feature Freeze | 21:43 |
| russellb | seems pretty hard to avoid | 21:43 |
| ttx | 3 blueprints targeted to g3 but not in series goal: | 21:44 |
| Vek | agreed... | 21:44 |
| ttx | migration-testing-with-data migrate-volume-block-migration host-maintenance | 21:44 |
| ttx | you might want to review those | 21:44 |
| russellb | i'll get 'em | 21:44 |
| ttx | Should https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/show-availability-zone be marked completed ? | 21:44 |
| vishy | migration-testing-with-data i brought back but forgot to put in goal | 21:44 |
| ttx | vishy: ok, fixing | 21:45 |
| russellb | just fixed that one | 21:45 |
| ttx | ok | 21:45 |
| vishy | ttx: I was just trying to figure that out myself | 21:45 |
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| vishy | officially the bp mentions adding an az display to instances as well | 21:45 |
| vishy | which requires an extension | 21:45 |
| vishy | the existing prop died | 21:45 |
| vishy | so i'd say no for now. | 21:46 |
| ttx | ok | 21:46 |
| ttx | All the High stuff seems to be progressing well, except improve-block-device-handling and nova-quantum-security-group-proxy | 21:46 |
| vishy | if there is no more progress we will scale back the bp to cover implemented functionality | 21:46 |
| vishy | ttx: there is active work being done on both of those | 21:46 |
| russellb | both of those have had recent movement | 21:46 |
| russellb | so there is hope | 21:46 |
| ttx | ok, good, just no code proposed yet | 21:46 |
| ttx | xenapi-gpu-passthrough and multi-boot-instance-naming are not marked started yet... should they be postponed to H ? | 21:46 |
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| russellb | i thought i saw a patch posted for multi-boot-instance-naming | 21:47 |
| vishy | multi-boot-instance-naming had a review up but it got abandoned for some reason | 21:47 |
| russellb | weird | 21:47 |
| vishy | xenapi-gpu-passthrough seems like a great one to postopone | 21:47 |
| vishy | *postpone | 21:47 |
| ttx | i'll let you do that (remove series goal and milestone) | 21:48 |
| ttx | and as always, review early, review often | 21:48 |
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| ttx | the more we get in now the easier it will be in two/three weeks :) | 21:48 |
| ttx | Any question on Nova ? | 21:48 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:49 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | hi | 21:49 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:50 |
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| ttx | Looks like you're falling a bit behind... | 21:50 |
| ttx | still confident ? | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | everything is actively being worked on, and I've talked to all of those folks in the course of the last week. several are up with POC's and/or code reviews. | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | My intention is to encourage everyone to get at least some form of code up for review by next week to give a couple weeks to nail things down | 21:51 |
| ttx | yeah, for some reason they aren't linked that much | 21:51 |
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| gabrielhurley | yep, totally distributed, little to no interdependance | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | very parallelized this time, which is good | 21:51 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: ask them to mention the bp name in their review so that we get magic linking | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | will do | 21:52 |
| ttx | add-security-group-to-instance is the only one I could find code proposed for :) | 21:52 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | other ones are up on github but not in gerrit | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | I do have one BP that just got opened that I need to find out if it's gonna be a G3 item or not | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-lbaas | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | apparently it's under active development already. I got looped into the email thread this morning and wrote back | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | should have an answer soon | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | it's a "might slip in at the last moment" | 21:53 |
| ttx | not sure how to best prevent last-minute bp introduction | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | I don't want to turn down finished work if it happens | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | but I'm not counting on it | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm gonna leave it out of the ilestone until I see confirmation that it should land | 21:53 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: ok, anything else ? | 21:54 |
| gabrielhurley | no, I think that's it for this week | 21:54 |
| ttx | thanks! | 21:54 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects | 21:54 |
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| ttx | ceilo/heat folks around ? | 21:55 |
| sdake_z | yup | 21:55 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:55 |
| ttx | This looks a bit worrying, though I suspect all those represent a small unit of work ? | 21:55 |
| sdake_z | we had 1 bp that had 7 different things in it, so we broke those up into 7 different bps | 21:55 |
| ttx | FWIW there is a "work item" system within blueprints that lets you track smaller tasks without having to create a separate blueprint for each. | 21:55 |
| sdake_z | and the work is nearing completion in local repos | 21:56 |
| ttx | ok | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | some vpc resources may be deferred | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | rather network resources | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | (some of the 7) | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | the others are fairly straightforward, although half developers at lca this week | 21:56 |
| ttx | you also have a pretty significant targeted bug list | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | agree, two weeks ago got devs to agree to fix 3 bugs a week | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | which so far has been working out ok | 21:56 |
| sdake_z | that should land us at zero bugs when done ;) | 21:57 |
| ttx | sdake: heh | 21:57 |
| ttx | sdake: anything else you wanted to mention ? | 21:57 |
| Vek | unless the list of bugs grows faster than 3 bugs * n developers a week | 21:57 |
| ttx | any ceilometer folk around ? | 21:57 |
| sdake_z | bit of risk on the bug count but i think we are in good shape | 21:57 |
| ttx | Vak speaks from experience | 21:57 |
| ttx | Vek* | 21:57 |
| sdake_z | agree vek | 21:57 |
| Vek | :) | 21:57 |
| ttx | ok then I guess we are done for today, woohoo | 21:58 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 21:58:51 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-29-21.02.html | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-29-21.02.txt | 21:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-29-21.02.log.html | 21:58 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 21:59 |
| * Vek waves | 21:59 | |
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| gabrielhurley | okay, let's do this Horizon thing ;-) | 22:01 |
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| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 22:01:49 2013 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic General updates | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | The main thing I want to convey this week is simply to get first passes of code up for review as soon as possible | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | Ideally we'd have something to look at for allthe BPs by this time next week. | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | For folks that have more than one BP assigned, I'd like to see at least one of them. | 22:03 |
| mrunge | well, that could become a bit tough | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | whether on github or on gerrit (gerrit is preferrable for visibility) | 22:04 |
| mrunge | there's fosdem at the weekend here, kicking persons out of business for 4 days (like me) | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | for folks who can't do that this week, I totally understand and would like to suggest that you at least put forth some indication of where you're at | 22:05 |
| mrunge | let's see, what I can do | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | that could be laying out where things are on the BP whiteboard | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | or a visual mockup | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | etc | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | some indication of progress | 22:05 |
| mrunge | yeah, should be good | 22:05 |
| mrunge | I agree | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | 'cuz I'd like to do a real evaluation of what (if anything) needs to be bumped out of the milestone next week | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | with that said... | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Blueprints and Bugs | 22:06 |
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| gabrielhurley | Two new blueprints came up this week which may impact G3 | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-lbaas | 22:07 |
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| gabrielhurley | Which is under active dev by the quantum team, but it sounds like there's some flux about the API capabilities, etc. | 22:07 |
| zykes- | gabrielhurley: yo! | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | so I'm reserving judgment on inclusion so far | 22:07 |
| zykes- | question on blueprint gabrielhurley | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | hi zykes | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | sure | 22:07 |
| zykes- | I asked you regarding some stuff to make a integration for other things like reddwarf and you gave me a link to a BP earlier and told me to wait for it | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | was it the BP about doing better intrsopection to be more DRY? | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | or something else? | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | if it *was* that BP, it ended up not being doable in Grizzly, so if you want to proceed on building bits for RedDwarf then I'd say go for it | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | okay, dunno what happened to zykes there | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | anyhow | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | the other BP I wanted to mention is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/swift-folder-prefix | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | apparently the implementation of pseudo-folders horizon is using was based on outdated Swift documentation, which they've now corrected, so some of the Nebula folks are going to get us into line with current Swift best practices. | 22:11 |
| annegentle | gabrielhurley: eek. Is there a doc bug? | 22:12 |
| annegentle | gabrielhurley: oh "now corrected" -- carry on :) | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | annegentle: yeah, they cleaned things up. not sure when or where. I wasn't tracking that part. bcwaldon had more to do with it. | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | as I understand it everything is in consensus on the right way now | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | so it's just a matter of catching up the code | 22:13 |
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| gabrielhurley | In terms of bugs, I'm a little behind in my usual triage so far, so if other folks want to help triage (meaning verify the bug, comment on it, and mark it's confirmed/incomplete/etc. status) that'd be awesome | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | It's not a terribly long list but the more the merrier | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | I use this query saved as a bookmark: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_bra | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | wow that's long and ugly | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | but it gives you all the "new" bugs for the project | 22:15 |
| mrunge | yes, indeed | 22:15 |
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| jpich | Cool, thanks for the query | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | totally | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Open Discussion | 22:15 |
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| mrunge | yepp, very cool | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | the floor is yours! | 22:15 |
| mrunge | regarding: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/theme-support | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | yep | 22:16 |
| mrunge | I hope I can present some code before the next meeting | 22:16 |
| mrunge | maybe it requires some discussion | 22:16 |
| mrunge | we'll see | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | if you can bring something forward that'd be great, whether it's a POC, or identifying what further discussion needs to happen and getting that going. | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | that's one that I don't mind seeing come through a little later, but it does need momentum | 22:17 |
| mrunge | I have a pretty good idea, what to do, and how | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:17 |
| kspear | just a question on | 22:17 |
| kspear | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-security-group-to-instance | 22:17 |
| kspear | i got a bit preempted here | 22:18 |
| kspear | i was in the middle of coding a different approach | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | go ahead, what's the question? | 22:18 |
| mrunge | kspear: that code is not your proposal? | 22:18 |
| kspear | nope | 22:18 |
| mrunge | I see | 22:18 |
| jpich | Taking on an assigned blueprint without asking (?) isn't great... | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20446/ | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | lol | 22:18 |
| kspear | i was working on reusing the admin/projects code | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | I didn't even notice | 22:18 |
| kspear | http://i.imgur.com/kjY8myj.png | 22:18 |
| kspear | ^ that's was where i was at | 22:19 |
| uvirtbot | kspear: Error: "that's" is not a valid command. | 22:19 |
| mrunge | yes, I remember that | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | oh uvirtbot, when will you learn ;-) | 22:19 |
| kspear | haha | 22:19 |
| mrunge | hahaha | 22:19 |
| kspear | i'm not against accepting the existing review | 22:19 |
| kspear | but i guess i wanted to ask people's thoughts on which approach is better | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | UX-wise I like the approach you've got going | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | moreover, there are some ways I think the code for that component could be improved and I'd like to see how your usage of it affects things | 22:20 |
| kspear | the changes are fairly minimal at the moment | 22:20 |
| kspear | so all the naming no longer makes sense | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | glad to hear it | 22:21 |
| kspear | projects/users etc | 22:21 |
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| kspear | i can push what i have so far to gerrit and let you guys take a look | 22:21 |
| kspear | just needs tests really | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | If you're ready to do that that's cool, if not, take your time with it | 22:21 |
| mrunge | I'd say, go ahead | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | however, if you could post that screenshot to the BP whiteboard that'd be good | 22:22 |
| kspear | sure | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | and then we can follow up with Brooklyn Chen to make sure the efforts get aligned. | 22:22 |
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| kspear | sounds good | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | awesome | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | other topics? | 22:23 |
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| gabrielhurley | vkmc: if you have concerns about showing code by next week I've been following your comments on the whiteboard and everything looks good on Tenant Deletion plan-wise. So consider yourself to have a little bit more breathing room. | 22:24 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, I was going to ask for comments about that bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tenant-deletion | 22:24 |
| vkmc | gabrielhurley, As you saw, I updated the whiteboard, but I'm still looking for affected services | 22:25 |
| vkmc | I'd love everyone suggestions on that | 22:25 |
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| vkmc | I hope I'll finish with that tomorrow and start with UX mockup | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | awesome. and yeah, anyone who wants to contribute on that whiteboard, there's lots there | 22:26 |
| vkmc | And, with some luck, I'll start coding it on Friday | 22:26 |
| jpich | vkmc: I don't see any missing services, great whiteboard :) | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, well done | 22:27 |
| vkmc | I'm afraid I'm still not familiar with other components ifaces, so I may miss something | 22:27 |
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| vkmc | Thanks guys | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | anything else before we wrap? | 22:28 |
| kspear | oh just one thing | 22:28 |
| gabrielhurley | go for it | 22:29 |
| kspear | the bug regarding editing flavor ids you mentioned in last weeks meeting | 22:29 |
| gabrielhurley | ah yes | 22:29 |
| kspear | i tried to follow that up with nova but didn't get very far | 22:29 |
| gabrielhurley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1100444 | 22:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1100444 in horizon "Edit Flavor Window Displays Details of Deleted Flavors" [High,Confirmed] | 22:29 |
| gabrielhurley | (reading now) | 22:30 |
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| gabrielhurley | so it looks like this isn't a bug in Horizon in master, but we may want to look into what the right solution for a Folsom backport would be? | 22:31 |
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| kspear | yeah i'd say so | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | okay | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll make the approriate adjustments on the bg | 22:31 |
| kspear | although | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | ? | 22:32 |
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| kspear | if you set a flavor id manually through novaclient cli you can trigger the bug even on master | 22:32 |
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| kspear | because nova always sends back the deleted flavor when we "get" it | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | that's probably a separate issue for nova though | 22:33 |
| kspear | yep | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | although I'm curious, if you try to update that "deleted" flavor, does it let you? | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | oh | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | no | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | it can't | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | there's no API route for that | 22:33 |
| kspear | yeah | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | it allows the get, and that's actually useful for various reasons | 22:33 |
| gabrielhurley | so I wouldn't call that a bug | 22:34 |
| gabrielhurley | it's just misunderstood | 22:34 |
| gabrielhurley | ;-) | 22:34 |
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| kspear | yeah | 22:34 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:34 |
| kspear | except when you want to edit a flavor with overlapping ids :) | 22:34 |
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| gabrielhurley | the bigger problem is that flavors have both a UUID and an "id", and the two confuse people constantly | 22:35 |
| gabrielhurley | the internal database ID isn't generally exposed anywhere | 22:35 |
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| gabrielhurley | they're separate records with the same user-facing "id" | 22:35 |
| kspear | i think the problem is that nova allows you to reuse a flavor id | 22:35 |
| gabrielhurley | took me a while to get myself clear on how (and why) it's like that | 22:35 |
| gabrielhurley | it's intentional | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | ::shrug:: | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | can debate it offline sometime ;-) | 22:36 |
| kspear | oh well | 22:36 |
| kspear | sure :) | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | anyhow, with that, I'm gonna call this meeting adjourned. | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | thank you all and see you next week! | 22:36 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 22:37:06 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-01-29-22.01.html | 22:37 |
| mrunge | thanks gabriel | 22:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-01-29-22.01.txt | 22:37 |
| jpich | Cheers | 22:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-01-29-22.01.log.html | 22:37 |
| kspear | see ya | 22:37 |
| mrunge | yepp, see you | 22:37 |
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| vkmc | Thanks, see you next week :) | 22:39 |
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