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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 18 09:00:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 09:00 |
| priteau | #topic RollCall | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:00 | |
| masahito | o/ | 09:00 |
| bertys_ | o/ | 09:00 |
| priteau | Hello Masahito and Bertrand | 09:01 |
| priteau | No Tetsuro today? | 09:01 |
| priteau | I guess we can start then | 09:01 |
| priteau | The agenda for today is: | 09:01 |
| priteau | 1. PTG meeting summary | 09:02 |
| priteau | 2. python3-first goal | 09:02 |
| priteau | 3. Blazar specifications | 09:02 |
| priteau | 4. Forum Topic Submission | 09:02 |
| priteau | 5. AOB | 09:02 |
| priteau | Anything else? | 09:02 |
| priteau | #topic PTG meeting summary | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG meeting summary (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:03 | |
| priteau | I did a quick summary of our priorities for Stein | 09:04 |
| priteau | It's at the end of the Etherpad | 09:04 |
| priteau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-stein | 09:04 |
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| priteau | I've ordered them roughly in decreasing priority as I see them, but we can move them around | 09:05 |
| masahito | Lots of tasks :-) | 09:06 |
| masahito | I think it misses soft-delete one. | 09:06 |
| priteau | Good catch! It's because there is no blueprint that I missed it. | 09:07 |
| priteau | I will create a soft-delete blueprint. | 09:07 |
| priteau | #action priteau will create a soft-delete blueprint | 09:08 |
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| priteau | We have lots of tasks for Stein, but the cycle is longer. | 09:08 |
| priteau | If we can at least complete the higher priority ones, I will be happy :-) | 09:09 |
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| priteau | This week I will go over the meeting notes in more details to check for anything important and move the information to blueprint or bugs | 09:10 |
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| priteau | We had a good meeting in Denver, thank you for travelling all the way there and participating! | 09:10 |
| priteau | Any other comment? | 09:10 |
| masahito | Thanks. | 09:11 |
| masahito | nothing from my side. | 09:11 |
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| priteau | #topic python3-first goal | 09:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "python3-first goal (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:11 | |
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| priteau | We need to finish the python3-first goal | 09:12 |
| masahito | yup. | 09:12 |
| priteau | I have merged many patches yesterday which had an existing +2 | 09:12 |
| bertys_ | we need to discuss now 602465 versus 602722 | 09:13 |
| priteau | masahito: I see you're trying to use the checkout-override for the tempest plugin. I am not sure why you are still trying though, since I have a solution which works for queens and even for pike | 09:13 |
| masahito | IMO, it works only for CURRENT tempest plugin. | 09:14 |
| priteau | My approach is to skip Gabbi API tests using a Tempest regex: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602465/ | 09:14 |
| priteau | That's true, it may break in the future if we add or change scenarios so that they are not compatible with Queens | 09:15 |
| masahito | Let's think the case where we add a new scenario test which calls the Query reservation candidates API in Rocky. It causes gate failure. | 09:15 |
| priteau | But, we could change the regex to ignore them, or write scenarios so that they're compatible with either version | 09:15 |
| masahito | I figured out the override-checkout only works for a tag or branch name. http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/zuul/executor/server.py#n1022 | 09:16 |
| masahito | So my idea for the queens and the pike is adding the override-checkout with 0.1.0 and excluding api tests. | 09:17 |
| priteau | On the other hand, when we add an instance reservation scenario, it could be useful to execute it on Queens to test that it works fine | 09:19 |
| masahito | I'm not a fun of adding ignoring regrex every time to all stable branch when we update master tempest pluguin. It's easy for us to forget doing that. | 09:20 |
| masahito | priteau: it makes sense. | 09:20 |
| masahito | How about adding 0.1.1 or 0.2.0 to the plugin? | 09:20 |
| masahito | when we added an instance reservation scenario. | 09:20 |
| priteau | I see, we can always bump the plugin tag to test with a newer version | 09:21 |
| priteau | OK, I am happy with this approach | 09:21 |
| priteau | 0.1.0 is newer than I thought anyway | 09:21 |
| priteau | It's almost the latest commit | 09:21 |
| masahito | I try to add instance reservation scenario first. | 09:22 |
| priteau | Can we finish python3-first first though? | 09:22 |
| priteau | And bump the plugin checkout once you have instance reservation tested | 09:23 |
| priteau | We need a solution that works for Ocata, Pike, and Queens anyway | 09:23 |
| masahito | I think so. | 09:23 |
| priteau | Ocata doesn't have instance reservation | 09:23 |
| masahito | Okay, we now doesn't hit the problem with your patch. so I'll abandon my patch now. | 09:24 |
| priteau | As you want. | 09:24 |
| priteau | If you have the instance reservation scenario ready soon, we can reopen your patch to use 0.1.1 or 0.2.0 | 09:25 |
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| priteau | You've convinced me that it's useful to stick to a specific version, I just didn't want that version to be too old | 09:26 |
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| priteau | Now we need to finish review | 09:27 |
| masahito | right. | 09:27 |
| priteau | Try this query: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:open+reviewer:self+topic:python3-first | 09:27 |
| priteau | It should show you all Blazar patches (maybe other projects too if you're reviewer on non-Blazar projects) that are still open for this topic | 09:28 |
| priteau | In particular masahito could you please check: | 09:28 |
| priteau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596236/ | 09:28 |
| masahito | Done :-) | 09:29 |
| priteau | For Pike I added back tempest tests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603200/ | 09:30 |
| priteau | I will do the same for Ocata (not done yet) | 09:30 |
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| priteau | I only added python2 tempest tests, as there is no point in running a full python3 devstack with pike, we know it's going to fail | 09:31 |
| priteau | I will do the same for Ocata | 09:31 |
| bertys_ | +1 | 09:31 |
| priteau | masahito: Could you please also review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602465/ | 09:31 |
| masahito | Just now added +2 :-) | 09:31 |
| priteau | Thank you! | 09:33 |
| priteau | If you are around for a little longer today, I will ping you when I have the Ocata patches ready | 09:33 |
| priteau | I will merge the zuul changes first anyway, and add back DevStack Tempest on top | 09:34 |
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| priteau | Anything else to discuss for python3-first? | 09:34 |
| masahito | sorry after this meeting I need to be AFK today. | 09:34 |
| bertys_ | We are almost done, so I am happy | 09:35 |
| priteau | OK, then could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596243/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596239/ | 09:35 |
| priteau | Or bertys_ | 09:36 |
| priteau | I need another +2 to merge | 09:36 |
| priteau | Gerrit is quite slow for me right now | 09:43 |
| priteau | Just need review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596239/ | 09:43 |
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| priteau | masahito, bertys_: Are you looking at this patch? | 09:45 |
| bertys_ | I am looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603200. Gonna merge now | 09:46 |
| priteau | Thanks | 09:46 |
| priteau | It needs a review of its parent to merge though: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596239/ | 09:46 |
| priteau | I think we have it all, thanks! | 09:48 |
| priteau | I will push the remaining patch for Ocata later today | 09:48 |
| priteau | Can we move to the next topic? | 09:49 |
| priteau | Only 11 minutes left | 09:49 |
| bertys_ | ok for me | 09:49 |
| priteau | #topic Blazar specifications | 09:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blazar specifications (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:49 | |
| priteau | I requested the blazar-specs repo in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602783/ | 09:49 |
| priteau | There was a reply from Andreas Jaeger saying that some projects have stopped using -specs repos | 09:49 |
| priteau | Basically there is no preferred way of using specs. We are free to keep using our docs folder if we want, or we can go ahead and request the repo if we prefer. | 09:50 |
| priteau | What would you prefer? There is a small overhead in having to manage another repo, but not much. | 09:51 |
| masahito | priteau: Do you know where the projects write down its new specification instead of its spec repo? | 09:51 |
| priteau | I think some don't use specs file at all but write details in Launchpad blueprints (I think Horizon is an example) | 09:52 |
| masahito | I'm fine either one if we have a place to discuss details of a new feature/specification. | 09:53 |
| priteau | Looks like Swift is an example of a project that has stopped using its -specs repo: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/swift-specs/ | 09:53 |
| priteau | I am trying to find where they work now | 09:53 |
| bertys_ | As I said in Denver, I'm fine to create blazar-specs repo | 09:54 |
| priteau | OK, then I will go ahead and request the repo. It will give us a presence on specs.openstack.org that we can clearly separate from docs. | 09:55 |
| priteau | Next topic | 09:56 |
| priteau | #topic Forum Topic Submission | 09:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum Topic Submission (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:56 | |
| priteau | The Forum topic submission period has started | 09:56 |
| priteau | It runs until the 26th of September (Wednesday next week) | 09:57 |
| priteau | Any new topic that you've thought about since last week? | 09:57 |
| priteau | Reminder that our current topic list is | 09:57 |
| priteau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Berlin-stein-forum-blazar-brainstorming | 09:57 |
| priteau | I will prepare text for the proposed topics and we can review at the next meeting | 09:59 |
| priteau | Just one minute to go for AOB | 09:59 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: blazar)" | 09:59 | |
| priteau | Anything else? | 09:59 |
| masahito | I wouldn't join the next meeting because of ONS summit. | 10:00 |
| priteau | OK, then I will send by email for you to review | 10:00 |
| masahito | I try to login the channel but will not be active... because of its keynote | 10:01 |
| priteau | OK no problem | 10:01 |
| priteau | If no AOB we can end the meeting | 10:01 |
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| priteau | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 18 10:02:25 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-09-18-09.00.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-09-18-09.00.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-09-18-09.00.log.html | 10:02 |
| priteau | Thanks everyone, bye! | 10:02 |
| masahito | thanks, bye | 10:03 |
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| notmyname | priteau: just saw meeting playback about "swift does't use specs". that's a change we made back in 2016. here's the ML post about it http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094026.html | 15:52 |
| notmyname | and it's been working *really* well | 15:52 |
| priteau | notmyname: Interesting, thanks for the information! | 15:54 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 18 16:01:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 16:01 |
| cmurphy | o/ i'm in another meeting for a few minutes | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:02 |
| knikolla | o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 16:02 |
| wxy| | o/ | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: still have that link I gave you handy? | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | I need to update the agenda with that one | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | rocky retro | 16:02 |
| knikolla | hrybacki: staying dry? | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | oh - yeah | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/af8vmDPs/keystone-rocky-retrospective | 16:02 |
| hrybacki | knikolla: first sunny day since last Wednesday :) | 16:03 |
| hrybacki | thanks lbragstad | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | yep | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic Rocky Retrospective | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Retrospective (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:03 | |
| lbragstad | hrybacki o/ | 16:03 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:04 |
| hrybacki | hey, so I wish I could have held the retro at PTG | 16:04 |
| hrybacki | to avoid having another lengthy meeting I'm proposing we do most of the retro async | 16:04 |
| hrybacki | https://trello.com/b/af8vmDPs/keystone-rocky-retrospective is a Trello board where we can all add items | 16:04 |
| knikolla | ++ | 16:05 |
| hrybacki | If there are cards folks do want to discuss, noting such in the card will be enough for me to collate those and we can hold a smaller meeting next week to address those and review action items | 16:05 |
| hrybacki | hoping to keep that mtg as short as possible | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134739.html | 16:05 |
| hrybacki | does that approach work for folks? Or are there other thoughts? | 16:06 |
| * lbragstad is a fan | 16:06 | |
| cmurphy | wfm | 16:06 |
| cmurphy | short meetings ftw | 16:06 |
| hrybacki | ++ | 16:06 |
| hrybacki | alright, I'll ping folks as a reminder later this week to add their thoughts | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | reminder that participating in the doodle doesn't mean we will have the meeting, just a safely net in the event we *need* to have one | 16:07 |
| hrybacki | and we can pick a time at next week's weekly mtg? | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | sounds good to me | 16:07 |
| hrybacki | that's all I have on the topic. Thanks all! | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coordinating this hrybacki | 16:08 |
| hrybacki | :) | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #topic Berlin Forum Submission Period | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Forum Submission Period (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:08 | |
| lbragstad | context | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134740.html | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | and | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-keystone-forum-sessions | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | i was hoping to go through this last week, but given the attendance the fact that we didn't wasn't a huge deal | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | that said, we're going to need to come up with these topics relatively soon | 16:09 |
| lbragstad | i thought there were a few things from the PTG that would be good forum topics, but i'm curious to hear what others suggest | 16:10 |
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| knikolla | Is berlin before spec freeze? | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | yes | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | that's another thing | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | was everyone happy with the deadlines we set for last release? | 16:14 |
| cmurphy | worth noting that this cycle will be a longer one | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | and does anyone want to propose modifications? | 16:14 |
| knikolla | Are we going to space things more, or push them further down with the same spacing? | 16:15 |
| cmurphy | i felt like the spec freeze and code freeze felt a little too close together | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | ack | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | do we want to try and relax the specification freeze date? | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | we bumped that up last cycle | 16:16 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:17 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: what do you mean by relax? just push it to later? | 16:19 |
| cmurphy | or do we want like a soft-freeze/hard-freeze thing | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | do we want to use the deadline we used in Queens? | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | in Rocky we bumped feature freeze up two weeks | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | do we want to relax that back to the original in an effort to allow more time between specification freeze and feature freeze? | 16:20 |
| cmurphy | with the longer cycle maybe we could still have the feature freeze in advance of the everybody-feature-freeze while still having some space between spec freeze | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that's fair | 16:22 |
| cmurphy | and maybe it only needs to be 1 week ahead and not 2 weeks ahead? | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | true | 16:22 |
| lbragstad | hopefully zuul doesn't still have a grudge against you cmurphy | 16:23 |
| * cmurphy gives zuul some carrots | 16:23 | |
| lbragstad | ok - should we vote on it? or do y'all just want me to make the proposal to the schedule? | 16:24 |
| cmurphy | I suspect silence means most of us don't feel very strongly either way :) | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 16:26 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to update stein deadlines | 16:26 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 16:27 | |
| lbragstad | floor is open | 16:27 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 16:27 |
| hrybacki | I want to nominate Gage as our official navigator at PTG/Summit | 16:27 |
| hrybacki | never have I felt so on track as at the PTG | 16:27 |
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| lbragstad | :) | 16:28 |
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| cmurphy | heh | 16:28 |
| hrybacki | that's all | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | lol | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | alright - thanks for coming everyone! | 16:29 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 18 16:29:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:29 |
| hrybacki | O/ | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-09-18-16.01.html | 16:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-09-18-16.01.txt | 16:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-09-18-16.01.log.html | 16:29 |
| gagehugo | heh | 16:29 |
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