16:01:30 <lbragstad> #startmeeting keystone
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16:01:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'keystone'
16:01:52 <lbragstad> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting
16:01:56 <lbragstad> agenda ^
16:02:02 <cmurphy> o/ i'm in another meeting for a few minutes
16:02:06 <hrybacki> o/
16:02:06 <knikolla> o/
16:02:19 <lbragstad> o/
16:02:22 <wxy|> o/
16:02:27 <hrybacki> lbragstad: still have that link I gave you handy?
16:02:31 <hrybacki> I need to update the agenda with that one
16:02:38 <hrybacki> rocky retro
16:02:46 <knikolla> hrybacki: staying dry?
16:02:53 <lbragstad> oh - yeah
16:02:55 <lbragstad> #link https://trello.com/b/af8vmDPs/keystone-rocky-retrospective
16:03:04 <hrybacki> knikolla: first sunny day since last Wednesday :)
16:03:10 <hrybacki> thanks lbragstad
16:03:38 <lbragstad> yep
16:03:56 <lbragstad> #topic Rocky Retrospective
16:03:58 <lbragstad> hrybacki o/
16:04:07 <hrybacki> o/
16:04:18 <hrybacki> hey, so I wish I could have held the retro at PTG
16:04:36 <hrybacki> to avoid having another lengthy meeting I'm proposing we do most of the retro async
16:04:45 <hrybacki> https://trello.com/b/af8vmDPs/keystone-rocky-retrospective is a Trello board where we can all add items
16:05:14 <knikolla> ++
16:05:22 <hrybacki> If there are cards folks do want to discuss, noting such in the card will be enough for me to collate those and we can hold a smaller meeting next week to address those and review action items
16:05:35 <hrybacki> hoping to keep that mtg as short as possible
16:05:44 <lbragstad> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134739.html
16:06:05 <hrybacki> does that approach work for folks? Or are there other thoughts?
16:06:14 * lbragstad is a fan
16:06:19 <cmurphy> wfm
16:06:23 <cmurphy> short meetings ftw
16:06:51 <hrybacki> ++
16:07:03 <hrybacki> alright, I'll ping folks as a reminder later this week to add their thoughts
16:07:13 <lbragstad> reminder that participating in the doodle doesn't mean we will have the meeting, just a safely net in the event we *need* to have one
16:07:15 <hrybacki> and we can pick a time at next week's weekly mtg?
16:07:41 <lbragstad> sounds good to me
16:07:55 <hrybacki> that's all I have on the topic. Thanks all!
16:08:05 <lbragstad> thanks for coordinating this hrybacki
16:08:16 <hrybacki> :)
16:08:18 <lbragstad> #topic Berlin Forum Submission Period
16:08:27 <lbragstad> context
16:08:28 <lbragstad> #link #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134740.html
16:08:53 <lbragstad> and
16:08:55 <lbragstad> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-keystone-forum-sessions
16:09:11 <lbragstad> i was hoping to go through this last week, but given the attendance the fact that we didn't wasn't a huge deal
16:09:35 <lbragstad> that said, we're going to need to come up with these topics relatively soon
16:10:06 <lbragstad> i thought there were a few things from the PTG that would be good forum topics, but i'm curious to hear what others suggest
16:13:17 <knikolla> Is berlin before spec freeze?
16:14:19 <lbragstad> yes
16:14:24 <lbragstad> that's another thing
16:14:34 <lbragstad> was everyone happy with the deadlines we set for last release?
16:14:48 <cmurphy> worth noting that this cycle will be a longer one
16:14:55 <lbragstad> and does anyone want to propose modifications?
16:15:05 <knikolla> Are we going to space things more, or push them further down with the same spacing?
16:15:10 <cmurphy> i felt like the spec freeze and code freeze felt a little too close together
16:15:43 <lbragstad> ack
16:16:04 <lbragstad> do we want to try and relax the specification freeze date?
16:16:13 <lbragstad> we bumped that up last cycle
16:17:38 <gagehugo> o/
16:19:27 <cmurphy> lbragstad: what do you mean by relax? just push it to later?
16:19:43 <cmurphy> or do we want like a soft-freeze/hard-freeze thing
16:19:45 <lbragstad> do we want to use the deadline we used in Queens?
16:20:04 <lbragstad> in Rocky we bumped feature freeze up two weeks
16:20:30 <lbragstad> do we want to relax that back to the original in an effort to allow more time between specification freeze and feature freeze?
16:21:40 <cmurphy> with the longer cycle maybe we could still have the feature freeze in advance of the everybody-feature-freeze while still having some space between spec freeze
16:22:20 <lbragstad> yeah - that's fair
16:22:39 <cmurphy> and maybe it only needs to be 1 week ahead and not 2 weeks ahead?
16:22:55 <lbragstad> true
16:23:15 <lbragstad> hopefully zuul doesn't still have a grudge against you cmurphy
16:23:28 * cmurphy gives zuul some carrots
16:24:08 <lbragstad> ok - should we vote on it? or do y'all just want me to make the proposal to the schedule?
16:26:23 <cmurphy> I suspect silence means most of us don't feel very strongly either way :)
16:26:53 <lbragstad> ++
16:26:57 <gagehugo> ++
16:26:59 <lbragstad> #action lbragstad to update stein deadlines
16:27:07 <lbragstad> #topic open discussion
16:27:09 <lbragstad> floor is open
16:27:19 <hrybacki> o/
16:27:40 <hrybacki> I want to nominate Gage as our official navigator at PTG/Summit
16:27:51 <hrybacki> never have I felt so on track as at the PTG
16:28:34 <lbragstad> :)
16:28:55 <cmurphy> heh
16:29:08 <hrybacki> that's all
16:29:14 <lbragstad> lol
16:29:20 <lbragstad> alright - thanks for coming everyone!
16:29:22 <lbragstad> #endmeeting