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hiro-kobayashi#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 27 09:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hiro-kobayashi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
hiro-kobayashi#chair priteau09:00
openstackCurrent chairs: hiro-kobayashi priteau09:00
hiro-kobayashi#topic RollCall09:00
*** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
priteauo/09:00
bertys_o/09:00
hiro-kobayashimasahito and h_ito cannot attend today09:00
hiro-kobayashiOK. Let's start our meeting!09:01
hiro-kobayashiToday's agenda is:09:01
hiro-kobayashi1. Horizon plugin09:01
hiro-kobayashi2. status update09:01
hiro-kobayashi3. AOB09:01
hiro-kobayashianything else?09:01
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hiro-kobayashi#topic Horizon plugin09:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Horizon plugin (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:02
hiro-kobayashipriteau has shared a horizon plugin used in the ChameleonCloud last week09:02
hiro-kobayashiThank you very much, priteau :-)09:02
priteauNo problem09:03
hiro-kobayashiI've retrieved essentials and tested in my env, and it works!09:03
hiro-kobayashiIt looks fine!09:03
priteauSome of the functionality such as lease calendar doesn't have the necessary API support, so it is reading from the blazar database directly09:04
priteauWe can't use this method09:04
priteauIt complicates the deployment09:04
hiro-kobayashiIMO, we can use it at first09:04
priteauBut basic operations for create / update / delete should work fine09:04
hiro-kobayashiI think we can allow horizon to access blazar DB09:05
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hiro-kobayashifor now09:06
hiro-kobayashiHow do you think?09:06
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priteauI am not a fan of the idea. In some deployments it might be impossible, e.g. Horizon is deployed in an environment that can't reach the database due to IP filtering09:07
priteauMaybe if we keep this part experimental09:08
hiro-kobayashiThen, how about including this part and notice users that it's experimental09:09
hiro-kobayashi?09:09
priteauIt might be acceptable. We should ask masahito's opinion when he's back09:09
hiro-kobayashiOK09:10
hiro-kobayashiAnd I want to discuss which repo should the dashboard hosted09:10
priteauThe lease calendar was really built for Chameleon, and it provides a lot more data to users which operators may not want to give09:11
priteaue.g. it shows which hypervisor are allocated to leases09:11
hiro-kobayashipriteau: right. so hat should be updated in the future09:12
bertys_hiro-kobayashi: no strong opinion. blazar-dashboard may be one option09:13
hiro-kobayashiabout repo, I think it's better to create a new repo09:13
priteauhiro-kobayashi: Also, the calendar part wasn't written by me so there might be licensing issues. We will need to review this before it can be integrated.09:13
hiro-kobayashibertys_: agree. Many other project have *-dashboard repos09:13
hiro-kobayashipriteau: Got it. That's very important.09:14
priteau+1 for creating a new repo. In Chameleon we've kept it in python-blazarclient/contrib/horizon, but it's confusing09:14
priteauIt's only there because the original code contribution from Pablo Andres Fuente put it there09:15
bertys_ok for me09:15
hiro-kobayashiOK. then, I'll create a new repo after checking masahito's opinion09:15
priteauhiro-kobayashi: So in the style of https://github.com/openstack/sahara-dashboard or https://github.com/openstack/cloudkitty-dashboard09:15
hiro-kobayashiYes09:16
priteauThat looks good to me. We should check if there are Horizon guidelines for this kind of repo09:17
hiro-kobayashiI've read Horizon plugin guides, but couldn't find the repo rules09:18
priteauI don't see any either. Maybe there aren't any09:18
priteauThat's how to create a dashboard: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/contributor/tutorials/dashboard.html09:18
hiro-kobayashiOther *-dashboard are same style. So I'll follow them09:19
bertys_hiro-kobayashi: thanks09:19
hiro-kobayashiAnd I've also been adding test code. After completing that, I will push the patch09:19
hiro-kobayashiif the licensing issues are not clear at that time, I'll exclude the calendar part09:20
priteauI think that would be better for now. The developer has left so it may take me some time to track down legal issues.09:21
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hiro-kobayashipriteau: okay09:22
hiro-kobayashiI appreciate it!09:22
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hiro-kobayashiAnything else about Horizon?09:23
hiro-kobayashi#topic status updates09:24
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hiro-kobayashiDo you have any updates to share here?09:24
hiro-kobayashiAll of my updates are about Horizon, which have been already shared09:25
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priteau_Sorry, got disconnected09:26
hiro-kobayashipriteau: np :)09:26
hiro-kobayashicurrent topic is status updates09:26
priteau_I have reviewed all our internal Chameleon patches to Blazar and selected several of them for submitting upstream.09:26
hiro-kobayashiThanks!09:27
priteau_I am busy adapting them for master, writing tests, and submitting09:27
priteau_I have done that for two already, more to go.09:27
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hiro-kobayashiThat would be a heavy work. Please tell us if you need any help09:28
priteau_We don't have that many actually. Some of my patches fixing bugs were already duplicated by Masahito or you.09:28
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priteau_e.g. terminating instances when leases edn09:29
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hiro-kobayashipriteau_: right09:30
hiro-kobayashiany other updates?09:30
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hiro-kobayashi#topic AOB09:31
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hiro-kobayashiIf there is no AOB, we can finish todays meeting09:31
priteau_I won't be able to join the meeting next week09:31
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priteau_It's 4th of July, so US independence day09:32
hiro-kobayashipriteau_: OK09:32
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hiro-kobayashiOK. that's all for today's meeting! Thanks!09:33
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hiro-kobayashi#endmeeting09:33
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"09:33
openstackMeeting ended Tue Jun 27 09:33:54 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-27-09.00.html09:33
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-27-09.00.txt09:33
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2017/blazar.2017-06-27-09.00.log.html09:34
priteau_Thanks!09:34
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hiro-kobayashipriteau_: have a nice independence day :-)09:34
hiro-kobayashibye all!09:34
bertys_bye!09:34
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kzaitsev_hi zhurong_phone13:03
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zhurong_phonehi kzaitsev_13:04
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kzaitsev_can you ping felipe? i'm on the go13:04
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zhurong_phoneseems he not in the channel13:06
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zhurong_phonehe send the maillist, but forgot the meeting ;(13:08
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kzaitsev_wszhurong_phone: yeah, probably you're right13:33
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EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 27 14:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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EmilienM#topic agenda14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'14:00
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EmilienM* review past action items14:00
EmilienM* one off agenda items14:00
EmilienM* bugs14:00
EmilienM* Projects releases or stable backports14:00
EmilienM* CI14:00
EmilienM* Specs14:01
EmilienM* open discussion14:01
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EmilienMAnyone can use the #link, #action and #info commands, not just the moderatorǃ14:01
EmilienMHi everyone! who is around today?14:01
ccamacho/o/14:01
atotho/14:01
adarazso/14:01
michapmao/14:01
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matbu_o/14:02
EmilienM#topic review past action items14:02
EmilienM#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2017/tripleo.2017-06-20-14.00.html14:02
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EmilienMEmilienM to send email about how to use RSS to monitor Tempest results in TripleO CI14:02
EmilienMEmilienM to start looking how to convert 3-nodes jobs in oooq14:02
EmilienMEmilienM to postpone open specs to Queens, unless code has already been started during Pike and made good progress14:02
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d0ugalo/14:02
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mhenkelHi14:02
shardyo/14:02
EmilienMI'll postpone the first one again14:02
cdearborn\o14:02
skramajao/14:03
EmilienMthe second one is on the roadmap, after some discussion with weshay and trown14:03
jrist/o14:03
marios\o14:03
EmilienMand the third is still WIP14:03
EmilienM#topic one off agenda items14:03
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EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:03
EmilienMmhenkel: hi, please go ahead14:03
weshay0/14:04
mhenkelI worked on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475048/5 and removed the big firstboot script14:04
mhenkelI replaced it by 2 pre_network templates (one for dpdk and one for kernel module based installations)14:05
EmilienMmhenkel: ok, I'll review it again - also anyone who has time to review, feel free to help14:05
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mhenkelthanks14:05
EmilienMmhenkel: is there anything specific to discuss or you just need reviews?14:06
mhenkelEmilienM: no, I think I cleaned everything up as much as I could14:06
EmilienMok14:06
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mhenkelthere is still the need to bring up the vhost0 interface before os-net-config takes over14:06
mhenkeltherefore I unfortunately need some lines of bash14:07
EmilienM#action review contrail patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475045/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47504814:07
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EmilienMmoving on14:07
EmilienM#topic bugs14:07
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EmilienM#link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/pike-314:07
EmilienMdo we have any outstanding bug to discuss this week?14:07
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EmilienMgreat let's move on14:08
EmilienM#topic projects releases or stable backports14:09
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EmilienMno updates on my side regarding release & backports14:09
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EmilienMmoving on then14:10
EmilienM#topic CI14:10
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EmilienMthe only info I have regarding CI is that we're working on moving container scenario jobs into the gate (voting) as soon as they work14:10
EmilienMso far we have scenario002 and scenario004 AFIK14:10
EmilienMdo we have anything to discuss about CI?14:11
shardyThe undercloud deploy has been broken, locally and in CI14:11
EmilienMany review is needed?14:11
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EmilienMshardy: which job?14:11
EmilienMgate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-oooq ?14:11
shardyEmilienM: no the undercloud-containers job14:12
EmilienMI know the undercloud upgrade has been broken from newton to ocata, but ccamacho / me are on it14:12
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/python-tripleoclient/commit/4b1daab4eb7e29dafabc68ed82a3022399cbe013 just landed which aims to fix it14:12
EmilienMshardy: yeah this one doesn't get much love14:12
sshnaidmshardy, it's voting job, how was it broken?14:12
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EmilienMiirc this job / feature wasn't officially supported, that's why we didnd't have in gate right?14:12
shardyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1700417 has some details14:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1700417 in tripleo "CI: Undercloud containers job timing out" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Steve Baker (steve-stevebaker)14:12
ccamachoyeah, im still checking logs to get the root cause14:13
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EmilienMsshnaidm: it's not14:13
EmilienMgate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-containers-nv14:13
EmilienMlet's make it voting then?14:13
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/475750/ broke it because it was merged with red CI14:13
shardymore details in the bug of how14:14
EmilienMshardy: should we make the job voting?14:14
shardyEmilienM: yes I think so, as soon as it's stable again14:14
EmilienM#action EmilienM to make gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-containers job voting in tripleo gate and make sure we run it where useful14:14
EmilienManything else CI related for this week?14:15
sshnaidmwe didn't promote today because one of periodic jobs started 5 mins later than others and caught different DLRN hash.. not sure what can we do in such case14:15
weshaywe should try to get that oooq version of that job voting, but what ever get's the job done now is ok14:15
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EmilienMweshay: yeah but I'm afraid this is not in the high prio backlog14:15
EmilienMso it will break again if we don't make it voting14:15
weshayaye14:15
adarazssshnaidm: hm, yeah, we should probably get a better way to do these periodic jobs in a more coordinated way.14:16
EmilienMimho, upgrade jobs should be high prio to be in oooq14:16
EmilienMwe want to see upgrade jobs in oooq before anything else imho14:16
adarazssshnaidm: long term we could have a main job trigger all the promotion jobs with a single hash.14:16
EmilienMsshnaidm: I don't understand why it didn't catch a more recent DLRN hash14:17
sshnaidmadarazs, I think it's possible in rdo cloud only14:17
EmilienMsshnaidm: it takes hashes from consistent, right?14:17
sshnaidmEmilienM, because it changed in these 5 mins14:17
EmilienMahh14:17
EmilienMcan't we write it somewhere?14:17
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pandaI love race conditions14:17
jristtoo me!14:17
adarazssshnaidm: maybe not, pabelanger was saying something about these pipeline jobs where jobs can trigger other jobs. maybe only in zuul v3?14:17
sshnaidmEmilienM, not sure..14:18
sshnaidmadarazs, yeah, the life will be happy with zuul v3 :)14:18
EmilienMsshnaidm: please file a bug in Launchpad, so we can track this one14:18
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pandaadarazs: there's the concept of a child job in zuul right now14:18
sshnaidmEmilienM, ok14:18
adarazspanda: so we could probably use that.14:18
pandawe could use that14:18
EmilienMwith zuul 2.5 ?14:19
EmilienMtbh, I'm a bit confused (by lack of knowledge probably) why we have this race14:19
EmilienMoh I see14:19
EmilienMnevermind14:19
EmilienMscenario001 picked another repo than 002 for ex14:19
EmilienMmhh, yeah, hard to write it somewhere14:20
sshnaidmEmilienM, I think we can live with this until we move periodics to 3party14:20
EmilienMsshnaidm: let's think about it offline14:20
EmilienMsshnaidm: ++14:20
EmilienManything about CI this week?14:20
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EmilienMmoving on...14:21
EmilienM#topic specs14:21
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EmilienM#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:21
EmilienM#action EmilienM to continue the postponing to Queens14:21
EmilienManything to discuss about specs this week?14:21
EmilienM#topic open discussion14:22
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EmilienMI forgot to mention it in the off items but there is a cross project effort about documentation14:22
EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/13/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.rst14:22
jpichI'll send an email about it as well but I'd like to do a short i18n-themed deep dive in next week's slot (July 6th) if that works. Basically follow the Life and Journey of a String through tripleo-ui + infra + Zanata and back, what can go wrong/debugging tips, how we interact & work with the I18n team, things like that14:23
EmilienMI'm working on it for TripleO but I'll probably ask for some help around14:23
EmilienMjpich: that would be aweosme14:23
EmilienMjpich: feel free to send email on openstack-dev and do it at your convenience14:23
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jpichCool! Will do. Probably all of this is already documented but in 20 different places14:23
EmilienMjpich: it would be fun to share screen and see real examples in code14:24
EmilienMbut I'm sure that's what you wanted to do :P14:24
jpichYep, though I can focus on different things if there's interest :)14:24
EmilienMreally cool14:24
jpichI'll send the email14:24
EmilienManything else for this week folks?14:24
sshnaidmI'd like to have another deep-dive about containers14:25
sshnaidmwith more deep stuff this time..14:25
EmilienMsshnaidm: which specific area would you like?14:25
EmilienMhow deep? :)14:25
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sshnaidmEmilienM, of course everything we meet in CI :)14:25
sshnaidmwe can prepare more specific topics in next etherpad14:26
EmilienMsshnaidm: feel free to share this feedback with folks who did previous deep dive (aka jistr) maybe we can schedule another one14:26
sshnaidmEmilienM, ok14:26
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EmilienMallright! anything before we close the meeting?14:26
EmilienMthanks everyone have fun and see you online14:27
EmilienM#endmeeting14:27
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tmorin#startmeeting bgpvpn15:09
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openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 27 15:09:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:09
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:09
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tmorinhi everyone15:10
tmorinlet's see who is around...15:10
pcarver_hi15:10
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tmorinhi pcarver_!15:10
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tmorinhi doude matrohon timirnich lewo bfernando15:11
matrohonhi tmorin15:11
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tmorinok, let's start !15:12
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tmorinthe main thing I have on the agenda is the BGPVPN routes control API extension15:13
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tmorinthe API + doc has been +2+A last week, quickly after our meeting by kevinbenton15:13
tmorinmatrohon, you hadn't had the opportunity to comment, I hope that it's not a problem :-/15:14
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matrohonabsolutly not15:14
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tmorinthe good news is that since the implementation isn't done yet, we can revise all this15:14
tmorinok15:14
tmorinI've updated the blueprint with a list of work items for an actual implementation15:15
tmorinthere are  a bunch of things there15:15
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tmorin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+spec/routes-control15:15
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tmorinthe work items are:15:16
tmorin* API, DB and driver hooks for Port Associations: TODO15:16
tmorin* API, DB and driver hooks for new 'ports' attribute in BPGPVN resource: TODO15:16
tmorin* API, DB and driver hooks for new 'advertise_extra_routes' attribute in Router Association: TODO15:16
tmorin* OSC support for Port Associations: TODO15:16
tmorin* OSC support for new 'advertise_extra_routes' attribute in Router Association: TODO15:16
tmorin* python-neutronclient for Port Associations: TODO15:16
tmorin* python-neutronclient for Port Associations for new 'advertise_extra_routes' attribute in Router Association: TODO15:16
tmorin* Heat support for Port Associations: TODO15:16
tmorin* Heat support for new 'advertise_extra_routes' attribute in Router Association: TODO15:16
tmorin* dashboard: add the ability to control association attributes at create time, and to update them: TODO15:16
tmorin* dashboard: support for Port Associations: TODO15:16
tmorin* dashboard: support for new 'advertise_extra_routes' attribute in Router Association: TODO15:16
tmorin* tempest: add/modify API tests for Port Associations and new attributes: TODO15:16
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tmorinok, the IRC server truncated the list15:16
tmorinthe IRC server agrees that these are too many items :)15:16
tmorinthe good news is that we don't need all this on day 1 for a functional API15:17
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tmorinin particular Heat and horizon support are lower priority, and tempest additions are nice to have but not required on day 1 either15:17
matrohonand you didn't mentionned TODOs for other providers15:17
tmorinyep15:18
tmorindo you think we should ?15:18
tmorinother drivers are not in our tree anymore15:18
tmorinbut some are under openstack project and could refer to this blueprint15:18
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tmorinwe can certainly add ODL15:19
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pcarvertmorin: It's a good general question about how we track feature support across backends (if we do)15:19
tmorinpcarver: yes, I agree15:19
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tmorinmy take is that something we could do is: track driver feature implementation in a document under networking-bgpvpn/doc/sources15:20
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tmorinthis would give visibility to disparity in feature implementation, and a form of incentive to reduce it15:21
matrohonthat's the best we can do15:21
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tmorinand would give a view of the implementaton status for this API extension15:21
matrohonwe can also add blueritn to relevant launchpad project, once the API is coded15:21
pcarverI agree, we can't make everything dependencies, we just need a place to document what's supported15:22
tmorinpcarver: +115:23
tmorinI feel that today's meeting will quickly revolve around the question of who would volunteer to do X15:24
tmorin:)15:24
tmorinso let's jump head first15:25
tmorinfor this idea (documenting driver feature coverage) and the work items for the BGPVPN routes control extension... are there volunteers ?15:26
pcarverI can work on a document15:26
tmorinthat's cool15:26
pcarverprobably just a table to start with, until/unless we come up with a better idea15:26
tmorinthat will be a good starting point15:26
tmorinif you kickstart it, I can then try to help fill in the cells for which the answer would be unknown15:27
pcarverok15:27
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tmorinand for the bgpvpn routes control API extension... ?15:29
tmorinthere are a few items that should take a reasonable amount of time15:29
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tmorinI have started to work on the base: API/DB/driver-hooks15:30
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tmorinI should actually mark this on the blueprint15:30
matrohonI have no time for bgpvpn coding currently, sorry15:30
tmorinthe OSC and python-neutronclient changes should, I think, be pretty straightforward to implement15:30
tmorinmatrohon: yes I was guessing so15:31
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tmorintmorin: I'll probably have some Orange resource to help on that15:32
tmorinI'll also reach out to bobmel and doude, to see if they'd be interested15:32
doudehi15:33
tmorinhi doude :)15:33
doudeon my side I have no time for the next month15:33
tmorindoude: ok15:33
doudeno the 2 next months15:33
doude(PTO)15:34
tmorinPike feature freeze is last week of July, so it does not make a difference :)15:34
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tmorinwe will have to see if this can land for Pike of if we'll have to postpone to Queens15:35
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tmorinok, not much more to add for today I think15:37
tmorinI'll make it clear in the meeting minutes that volunteers are welcome:15:38
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tmorin#help reach out if you're interested in helping on work items in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+spec/routes-control15:39
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tmorin#topic opendiscussion15:39
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tmorindo you guys have anything to bring up ?15:39
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pcarvernothing specifically bgpvpn related. Do you know of anyone planning to participate in the OpenContrail summit tomorrow?15:40
pcarverIt's a short "summit" so I don't know how much will be covered, but one of the topics could be the networking-opencontrail project and the plan for drivers for APIs such as bgpvpn, sfc, and Gluon/Proton APIs.15:41
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tmorinpcarver: no, I don't know for sure15:44
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pcarverok, most likely it'll just be an organizational meeting15:45
pcarverMostly what I hope to get out of it with respect to networking-opencontrail is a general show of interest to see who might be potential consumers of the various Neutron API extensions if drivers get written for Contrail15:46
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tmorinyep15:47
tmoringood question15:47
tmorinI'm interesting to know the feedback15:47
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tmorinwow, time to free the floor15:59
tmorinthanks everyone15:59
tmorin#endmeeting15:59
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strigaziAnyone around for the magnum meeting?15:59
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strigaziAnyone around for the magnum meeting?16:06
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 27 19:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'refstack'19:00
luzCo/19:00
pvanecko/19:01
catherineDhello luzC: pvaneck:19:01
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catherineDmguiney: hi19:02
catherineDLet's start19:02
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hogepodgeo/19:03
catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-06-2719:03
catherineD#topic No meeting next week19:04
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catherineD#topic Displaying RefStack documentation19:04
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catherineDNow that all the needed patches were merged ...19:04
catherineDWe target to make a tag release and update the website on Friday19:05
catherineD#topic Tools to check whether test links in a spreadsheet are marked as verified in RefStack19:05
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mguineypatch merged!19:05
catherineDyep ...19:06
catherineDso all the tools are in ... I think it is time to doscuss about making the update19:06
catherineD#topic Plan to run tool to update the verify field19:07
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catherineDbefore running the tools to update ... we need to make sure that we have a good backup of the database19:07
catherineDpvaneck: hogepodge: do you think we need extra effort to make sure that we have a bacckup copy or do we just rely on the infra routine copy?19:08
pvaneckwe can double check with an infra folk19:09
catherineDI think it is necessary because we will be touching the data ...19:09
mguineyits better to be safe than sorry, i think19:09
catherineDhogepodge: depending on how big the backup is ... you may want to have a copy of the backup file19:10
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hogepodgecheck with infra19:11
catherineDpvaneck: who will we work with fungi: ?19:11
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hogepodgeyeah, or clarkb, but I think fungi knows more about the database maintenance19:12
fungiany infra-root sysadmin can make a on-the-spot database dump right before if you reach out to us in #openstack-infra at the desired time19:12
catherineDfungi: thanks!  That is exactly the information we need ...19:13
mguineythank you!19:14
fungisorry not to go into additional detail, but am chairing the infra team meeting at the same time you have your refstack meeting ;)19:14
catherineDhogepodge: mguiney: only Foundation Admin in RefStack can run the tools ... not sure who will perform it ... we need to have a backup before that19:14
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catherineDfungi: understand .. thanks for your response to the question ..19:15
sslypushenko_o/19:15
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hogepodgecatherineD: megan and I can do it together19:18
catherineDhogepodge: mguiney: also when you run the update.  do you want to create a sample spreadsheet with just a few records to test first?19:18
mguineyi can spin up a sample spreadsheet, no problem19:18
mguineyif needed19:18
catherineDyea I think it may help ..19:19
mguineyi'll take care of that, then :)19:20
catherineDafter your update .. we may want to display the verify field ..19:20
catherineDmoving on ,,19:21
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:21
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catherineD#link     Added Defcore additional properties waiver  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:21
luzCI bring it to interopwg meeting last week... waiver is going to be over 2017.0819:22
catherineDluzC: great ... so it makes sense to abandon the patch?19:22
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luzCyes, well they said is up to us19:22
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catherineDPersonally I vote for abandon it ... It does no make sense to complicate RefStack-client for a feature being used for 2 months19:24
luzCI would prefer to abandon it at this point in time... rationale: waiver is almost over, and just a few companies using it19:24
catherineDluzC: ++19:24
luzCcatherineD totally agree19:24
hogepodge+1 abandon19:25
catherineDanyone againsts abandon this patch?19:25
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pvanecknope19:25
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catherineD#action luzC: to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:26
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catherineD#link     Switch from pycrypto to cryptography  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476221/19:26
catherineDeveryone please review19:26
sslypushenko_cool!19:26
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catherineDmoving on19:27
catherineD#topic Review Pike action items19:27
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catherineDThere were 4 action items discussed at PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-pike-ptg19:27
catherineDwe have worked on 2 of the 419:27
catherineD1) Customized guideline19:28
catherineDFor this one we are waiting for the schema19:28
catherineD2) Update existing certified data with the verified flag19:28
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catherineDall tools are completed ... just need to run and update the data19:29
catherineD3) Displaying RefStack documentation19:29
catherineDThis should complete Friday when a new tag is created19:29
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catherineD#topic Automated tempest.conf Create spec and flow chart19:29
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catherineDsorry19:30
catherineD#4) Automated tempest.conf Create spec and flow chart19:30
catherineDwe spent a lot of time discussing this topic at the PTG ... no progress so far ..19:30
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catherineDshould this still be our priority?19:31
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luzCcatherineD I think so... last time I checked Daniel and Gema were working on it right?19:32
catherineDyea19:32
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catherineDif it is still our priority ... I will contact them19:32
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catherineDah we have 5 action items from Pike PTG ...19:34
catherineD5) subunit result files upload19:34
catherineDhogepodge: do we still want this feature?19:35
hogepodgeyes19:36
luzCalso I'm wondering about the old legal implications/restrictions about collecting it?19:36
catherineDluzC: yep good point ...19:37
luzChogepodge: are you revisiting that? or someone else?19:37
catherineDsince the subunit is actually text file19:37
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hogepodgeI don't understand any limitations. It's not available to the world at large19:37
hogepodgetempest doesn't leak personal data19:38
catherineDhogepodge: it does include log and if there is print statement of password for example it will show19:38
catherineDin plain text19:39
hogepodgeshowing a password in plain text is a bug19:39
hogepodgemtreinish: right?19:39
luzCI agree, if displayed it is a bug19:39
catherineDpassword is just an example19:40
catherineDbasically any print statement will show19:40
hogepodgein my opinion, refstack is too easily cheated without data to back it up, and this isn't sensitive data19:41
hogepodgeand right now, it would be voluntary19:41
* mguiney nods19:41
mguineymakes a lot of sense, tbh19:42
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hogepodgeand the data would be private, under the standard rules. it's not publicly available, and would help us in debugging and in making sure vendors remain honest.19:42
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luzCmy only question is if it just a design preference or if refstack would need an actual legal disclaimer or something? and if it is needed who provides it?19:43
catherineDhogepodge: luzC: do we just make the decision here or do we need to check with someone else?19:43
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hogepodgeI don't see any reason to not spec the feature out19:46
luzCI agree with Chris about the usefulness of the file, and that it does not contain private data19:46
luzCnot sure about the decision19:46
luzChogepodge: +119:46
catherineDluzC: hogepodge: on day one (by Rob, Josh, David ..  the decision to create the JSON file is exactly to not have any risk of exposing vendor data unnecessary  ..19:46
luzCa spec sounds good19:47
hogepodgeit was a bad decision imo, and it should be revisited19:47
catherineDif it is time to change, my question is ... do we just make decision here or do we need to check with someone else ... at the minimum Interop WG?19:47
sslypushenko_catherineD:  I still think that it makes sence19:47
hogepodgeyeah, interopwg is the place to check in on this19:48
catherineDsslypushenko_:  +119:48
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catherineDyea let's do that ... then we can procedd ..19:48
sslypushenko_Definitely, it needs wide discussion19:48
hogepodgeI know from experience that the test results can not be trusted without context.19:49
catherineD#action Check with Inter WG to see whether there is any concern if RefStack starts to collect subunit data file19:49
catherineDanything else on this topic?19:50
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catherineDalright moving on ..19:50
catherineD#topic Open discussion19:51
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catherineDis there any other topic anyone want to bring up?19:51
mguineyjust to review:19:52
mguineywhat are the planned actionable steps for this next week?19:53
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catherineD1) update the data ... 2) check with Interop WG on subunit file upload19:54
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mguineyexcellent, thank you19:54
mguineyjust wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any of the immediate future steps :)19:55
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catherineDtool to upload the subuni file will be the next task if we get the green light19:56
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catherineDmguiney: thanks for asking ...19:56
catherineDanything else ?19:57
catherineDhearing nothing.  I think we can close up for the day19:57
catherineDthank you all!19:57
mguineyhave a good day, y'all!19:58
catherineD#endmeeting19:58
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