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| lbeliveau | #startmeeting sriov | 13:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 13:19:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbeliveau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:19 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:19 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:19 |
| wznoinsk | so, hello ;-) | 13:20 |
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| sfinucan | howdy | 13:20 |
| lbeliveau | sorry about the confusion, moshele did tell me he would be on holidays this month, but didn't told me when :)\ | 13:20 |
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| lbeliveau | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:20 | |
| lbeliveau | so got one tempest for cold migration merged, revert case review is ongoing with a +2 | 13:21 |
| lbeliveau | this is the API tests, and we'll push the more complex test with networking connectivity test once the revert is in | 13:21 |
| lbeliveau | wznoinsk: anything on your side ? | 13:22 |
| wznoinsk | lbeliveau: I'm getting blocked with nodepool trying to spawn physical servers via ironic for my SRIOV CI sandboxing, I need to fix it or try my luck with SRIOV/PCI passthru in VMs, I'm not sure which is the lesser evil | 13:22 |
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| wznoinsk | unfortunately nothing to celebrate yet | 13:23 |
| lbeliveau | did you try to ping folks on infra ? | 13:23 |
| sfinucan | lbeliveau: For context, are these Tempest tests public? | 13:23 |
| lbeliveau | I've never tried that myself ... | 13:23 |
| wznoinsk | yes, nodepool spawning baremetal is not something they do and test | 13:24 |
| sfinucan | (a la the intel-nfv-ci-tests) | 13:24 |
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| wznoinsk | lbeliveau: I guess when I fix it and infra will like it nodepool will be able to handle tests on baremetal nodes | 13:24 |
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| lbeliveau | sfinucan: yes, I have to follow up with moshele is it is now part of mellanox CI, for the gate testing with multi-node it's still experimental job | 13:25 |
| wznoinsk | has anyone tried double pci passthru? host -> devstack VM -> tempest VM ? | 13:25 |
| lbeliveau | not me :( | 13:26 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: Not yet, but I might try it later this week | 13:26 |
| sfinucan | If I do, I'll provide results | 13:26 |
| sfinucan | danpb also provided a link for faking PCI devices yesterday, if it's of any use | 13:26 |
| wznoinsk | how about PCI passthru of SRIOV nic to a devstack VM for it to pass VFs down to tempest VMs? | 13:26 |
| lbeliveau | sfinucan: what is the link ? I'd like to look at that | 13:26 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan: saw that, I want to test the real devs tho :) | 13:26 |
| sfinucan | lbeliveau: see https://paste.fedoraproject.org/442587/54996401 | 13:27 |
| sfinucan | and eavesdrop logs from yesterday for context | 13:27 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: Aye, that's fair enough | 13:27 |
| sfinucan | could be a good interim measure though. Works for NUMA, right? | 13:27 |
| sfinucan | but sorry, I digress | 13:27 |
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| lbeliveau | wznoinsk: when you try it, what kind of erros are you getting ? | 13:28 |
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| wznoinsk | nodepool: http://pasteboard.co/ay7KU4myZ.png | 13:30 |
| wznoinsk | manual attemps at the same time: http://pasteboard.co/ay8d9Ryoq.png | 13:30 |
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| lbeliveau | vm is stuck in reboot loop ? | 13:31 |
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| wznoinsk | just so we're on the same page, this is when trying to get a baremetal server provisioned by ironic using nodepool asking | 13:32 |
| wznoinsk | the problem is simple, nodepool tests ssh connection when sshd is still saying 'server is still booting', it needs a proper retry loop | 13:32 |
| wznoinsk | I just need to setup the nodepool on my dev env | 13:32 |
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| lbeliveau | do you see anything unusual in /var/log/libvirt/libvirtd.log and /var/log/libvirt/qemu/instance-000000x.log ? | 13:33 |
| lbeliveau | ok ... I taught the vm was maybe not coming up | 13:33 |
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| wznoinsk | it's provision the physical server, not a VM on it | 13:33 |
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| lbeliveau | ok we'll need help from lennyb and moshele I guess, I don't know much about CI env myself | 13:34 |
| wznoinsk | anyways I hope to have better news next week, we aim to get the SRIOV/PCI CIs over by the end of the year (hopefully earlier) | 13:34 |
| lbeliveau | cool ! | 13:34 |
| lbeliveau | keep us posted | 13:34 |
| wznoinsk | lbeliveau: they've tried with containers before, didn't get that working unfortunately that's why I'm trying with baremetal for start | 13:35 |
| wznoinsk | will sure do | 13:35 |
| lbeliveau | #topic Patches for Subteam Review | 13:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patches for Subteam Review (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:35 | |
| lbeliveau | anybody has patches for review that we're not aware of ? | 13:35 |
| sfinucan | none on my end | 13:36 |
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| lbeliveau | me neither, just need cores to review those that are pending | 13:36 |
| lbeliveau | #topic Specs for Review | 13:36 |
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| lbeliveau | so lots of activity there, a few specs under review | 13:36 |
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| lbeliveau | anybody wants to say something about specs ? | 13:37 |
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| lbeliveau | we should plan a discussion at the summit | 13:37 |
| sfinucan | lbeliveau: You've seen the two NUMA-PCI specs, yes? | 13:37 |
| lbeliveau | yes, I've been commenting on a few recently | 13:38 |
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| sfinucan | lbeliveau: Then other than that, no, I'm good | 13:38 |
| sfinucan | Yes to meeting at the summit tho | 13:38 |
| vladikr | lbeliveau, I've also submitted https://review.openstack.org/381370 yesterday | 13:39 |
| lbeliveau | vladikr: will have a look | 13:40 |
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| sfinucan | vladikr: ditto | 13:40 |
| vladikr | sfinucan, thanks | 13:40 |
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| lbeliveau | not sure how this is usually working with cores, maybe we should push for a few of them, not sure we can commit on all of them | 13:41 |
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| wznoinsk | I have a feeling we're missing some people from the meeting today due to the confusion | 13:41 |
| wznoinsk | sry, lost connection | 13:41 |
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| lbeliveau | yes, next week will be better :) | 13:42 |
| lbeliveau | #topic Open discussion | 13:42 |
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| lbeliveau | anybody needs to bring something on the table ? | 13:42 |
| sfinucan | So I just have this bug to point out https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1628301 | 13:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628301 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "SR-IOV not working in Mitaka and Intel X series NIC" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:42 |
| lbeliveau | ok was not aware of this one, let me check | 13:42 |
| sfinucan | mriedem raised it last week. I tried setting up a virtual SR-IOV env but haven't succeeded yet | 13:43 |
| sfinucan | lbeliveau: Cool | 13:43 |
| lbeliveau | looks like config issues at first sight | 13:43 |
| lbeliveau | ok I will comment on it a bit later | 13:44 |
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| lbeliveau | anything else ? | 13:44 |
| sfinucan | not from me | 13:45 |
| lbeliveau | thanks guy, we'll talk next week | 13:45 |
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| lbeliveau | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 4 13:45:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-10-04-13.19.html | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-10-04-13.19.txt | 13:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-10-04-13.19.log.html | 13:45 |
| vladikr | lbeliveau, thanks | 13:45 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 14:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| jistr | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:00 |
| shadower | hey | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | hello folks | 14:00 |
| [1]cdearborn | \o | 14:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 14:00 |
| ccamacho | /o/ | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi2u | 14:00 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 14:00 |
| panda | |o| | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| jistr | panda: r u a tie fighter | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: hi2u2 | 14:00 |
| trown | jistr: I thought the same | 14:00 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:00 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:01 |
| mwhahaha | :o | 14:01 |
| rhallisey | hi | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | if you have some off items please add them here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:01 |
| jcoufal | I mean o/ | 14:01 |
| derekh | o/ | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:02 | |
| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:02 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:02 |
| mandre | o/ | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | ok sounds like we don't have off items this week | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | so we'll go through the regular agenda items | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
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| EmilienM | as a reminder, this week is focused on delivering Newton RC3 | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-rc3 | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | we still have 10 bugs open | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | everything that is not critical to Newton, should be moved to ocata-1. Please do it yourself if it's the case for your assigned bugs | 14:04 |
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| weshay | 0/ | 14:04 |
| bandini | o/ | 14:04 |
| saneax | o/ | 14:04 |
| rbrady | o/ | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | we have 3 bugs triaged but not in progress | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | d0ugal, rbrady: any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1626736 ? | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626736 in tripleo " Unable to delete overcloud node" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Ryan Brady (rbrady) | 14:05 |
| marios | o/ | 14:06 |
| rbrady | EmilienM: Not yet. I'm looking into it now | 14:06 |
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| EmilienM | mhh ok | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | apetrich: same question for https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1623673 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623673 in tripleo "mixed deployment fails resources.ControllerServicesBaseDeployment_Step2 with status code: 6 " [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Adriano Petrich (apetrich) | 14:06 |
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| shardy | o/ (sorry I'm late) | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | perfect timing | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | shardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1625783 - any patch coming for this one? | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1625783 in tripleo "unable to leverage swap-partition extraconfig" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 14:07 |
| shardy | EmilienM: Yes, I actually think it's either already fixed or will be fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379547/ | 14:08 |
| apetrich | EmilienM, it is working with workaround there | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | I would like to set a limit of Wednesday EOD to have bugfixes merged in master and eventually backported | 14:08 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I'll test it this afternoon and confirm on the bug | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | we plan to release on Thursday or Friday | 14:08 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: ack, in that case, please update the bug report | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | apetrich: it's not clear to me if we need to fix something or not | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | do we have any other bugs to discuss? | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | is there an outstanding bug we missed this week? | 14:09 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=composable-roles | 14:10 |
| shardy | ccamacho and I are trying to solve as many of those as we can before release | 14:10 |
| marios | EmilienM: just filed this fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1630247 to track the sahara mitaka..newton | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630247 in tripleo "sahara services during mitaka to newton upgrade" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b) | 14:10 |
| shardy | but some may have to be backported after GA | 14:10 |
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| EmilienM | marios: excellent. Upgrade bugs are High or Critical and targeted for RC3 of course | 14:10 |
| ccamacho | all submissions tagged as tripleo/rc3 | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | shardy: ack, i'll try to make the RC3 release as late as I can this week | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | shardy: I'll sync with Doug on that topic | 14:11 |
| shardy | EmilienM: sounds good, thanks! | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | shardy: anyway, I think those are candidates to be backported | 14:11 |
| apetrich | EmilienM, I'm not completely sure myself, I will comment my thoughts in the bug and we can go from there if that's ok | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | apetrich: ok thx. | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | anything else about bugs? | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | marios: don't forget to set "importance" of bugs when you report | 14:12 |
| rhallisey | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375540/ | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | and milestone | 14:12 |
| rhallisey | ^ easy review | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | marios: otherwise it's not in our radar | 14:12 |
| rhallisey | related to upgrades/updates | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | ... same for rhallisey https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1623978 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623978 in tripleo "overcloud update fails because of missing template in swift" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Hallisey (rthall14) | 14:12 |
| marios | EmilienM: ack thanks | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | no milestone, no importance | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | I already sent reminders about that | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | please do auto triage, we don't have enough resources to triage all incoming bugs | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to configure launchpad with a message to make auto triage when creating new bugs | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | anything else about bugs? | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | so a couple of reminders : | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | 1) please backport your patches that have been merged in master, into stable/newton, if they fix a bug that was targeted for RC3. | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | 2) we'll tag RC3 (Final Newton) by end of week | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | after RC3, I encourage people to continue backports for critical/high bugs, specially about upgrades | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | there is nothing blocking us to propose a new Newton release after final release | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | do we have any question/feedback about release management? | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:17 | |
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| EmilienM | matbu, weshay: do where are we with third party jobs to test tripleo upgrades? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | s/do/so/ | 14:18 |
| matbu | EmilienM: for third party idk | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | I remember an action from you to start looking at it | 14:18 |
| matbu | EmilienM: for upstream CI, it should be fix by the https://review.openstack.org/379547 | 14:18 |
| weshay | the jobs are in ci.centos and available, not passing obviously for mitaka -> master | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | matbu: ok | 14:19 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yes i started to look at, but tripleo-quickstart wasn't ready, the topic is in the hand of apetrich i guess | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | matbu: ok good | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | matbu: oh I remember now "matbu to move upgrade jobs to ovb and use experimental pipeline until it's stabilized then periodic + experimental" | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | is it done? ^ | 14:20 |
| matbu | EmilienM: the review ^ should also fix the update jobs | 14:20 |
| matbu | EmilienM: yep | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | good. | 14:20 |
| matbu | EmilienM: we loose time to fight with multinode with those jobs :/ | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | bnemec, derekh, dprince, slagle: anything special to mention about CI this week? | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: also ^ | 14:21 |
| dprince | nothing from me | 14:21 |
| derekh | ditto | 14:21 |
| slagle | matbu: what do you mean "fight with multinode"? | 14:21 |
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| slagle | EmilienM: nothing major other than I'm trying to get the uc upgrade job passing, and have moved the job to run on both instack-undercloud and tripleoclient | 14:22 |
| slagle | as previously it was only running on tripleo-ci patches | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | cool ^ | 14:23 |
| matbu | slagle: i mean we got (i and sshnaidm ) some failure, the job wasn't consistent | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | matbu: failures on what? | 14:23 |
| matbu | EmilienM: on upgrade job, when trying to install the undercloud | 14:23 |
| slagle | matbu: i've not seen the failures. is there a bug? | 14:23 |
| matbu | slagle: yep i fill a LP | 14:23 |
| slagle | please link it here and I will look | 14:24 |
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| bnemec | Hmm, I see the ipv6 job finally passed. I wonder why the updates job still won't. | 14:25 |
| matbu | slagle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1624448 | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624448 in tripleo "CI Upgrade job hang or failed on undercloud install" [Undecided,New] | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: me too, i'm wondering if we should move the job to the gate or just set ipv6 by default in ha job? | 14:26 |
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| slagle | matbu: thanks. i will push a patch for that today. it doesnt happen very frequently, but it should be relatively easy to address. | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | slagle, matbu : thanks | 14:27 |
| matbu | slagle: ack, with the upgrade job it was arround 80% of the time | 14:27 |
| panda | EmilienM: I think making it a gate was the main point for newton | 14:27 |
| bnemec | EmilienM: I can try to reproduce the updates job failure locally. It's a single node pacemaker setup, so it is a little different from full ha. | 14:27 |
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| matbu | slagle: but the workflow is a bit different than a classic job (i mean, start with a stable/mitaka, deploy, then build repo and upgrade) | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: wdyt about switching current ovb job (HA) to ipv6 by default? | 14:28 |
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| panda | EmilienM: don't we have to test ha ipv4 jobs too ? | 14:28 |
| bnemec | EmilienM: Then we lose coverage of the ipv4 net-iso case. | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: non-ha is testing net-iso? | 14:28 |
| bnemec | EmilienM: No | 14:28 |
| bnemec | At least IIRC | 14:29 |
| slagle | matbu: ack, it just has to do with different cloud instances have different interface(s) and names. but we can account for that in tripleo-ci | 14:29 |
| panda | bnemec: I too remember it's not | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | bnemec: ok. Well, we might want to 1) enable net-iso on nonha and 2) enable ipv6 on ha | 14:29 |
| matbu | slagle: k | 14:29 |
| EmilienM | wdyt? | 14:29 |
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| bnemec | slagle: Could you just pass nic2 and let os-net-config map it? | 14:30 |
| slagle | bnemec: i'm not even sure all the instances have 2 nics | 14:30 |
| slagle | bnemec: i don't think all the cloud providers used by nodepool use static ip's | 14:30 |
| bnemec | Oh, that would be a problem. | 14:30 |
| slagle | some only have 1 | 14:30 |
| slagle | 1 interface | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | any thoughts on my proposal? | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | slagle: or have we tried to run multinode jobs with ipv6? | 14:33 |
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| EmilienM | ok sounds like we'll catch-up after the meeting | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | anything else about CI this week? | 14:34 |
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| slagle | EmilienM: someone could try it | 14:35 |
| panda | I can try it | 14:35 |
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| EmilienM | panda: we are interested on having both ipv4 and ipv6 coverage | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | so let's see what we can do | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | #action panda and EmilienM to investigate how to gate with ipv6 with current jobs | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:36 |
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| EmilienM | it's more a reminder, if you would like your spec ready to be discussed and approved by end of next Summit, please update it, make sure it pass CI and maybe engage discussion on mailing list about the spec. | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | anything else about specs? | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:39 |
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| EmilienM | I have (another) reminder for Summit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-tripleo | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | feel free to polish and prepare our design sessions, I'll continue to work on the agenda next week after RC3 thing | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | sounds like we start to have a bunch of sessions, /me looking forward | 14:40 |
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| EmilienM | I'll keep the discussion open a little bit, feel free to ask anything or give any feedback now | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | sounds like we're good for this week, thanks for your time! | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 4 14:42:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-10-04-14.00.html | 14:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-10-04-14.00.txt | 14:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-10-04-14.00.log.html | 14:42 |
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| shardy | thanks EmilienM ! | 14:42 |
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| ccamacho | thanks!!! | 14:43 |
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| bandini | thanks | 14:46 |
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| jistr | :)) nice | 14:46 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 15:02:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: bgpvpn)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:02 |
| tmorin | hi everyone | 15:02 |
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| tmorin | hi doude, eon`, lewo, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich | 15:03 |
| doude | Hi | 15:03 |
| pcarver | hi | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | matrohon should be here in a minute | 15:05 |
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| timirnich | hi all | 15:08 |
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| matrohon | hi | 15:11 |
| tmorin | hi matrohon | 15:11 |
| tmorin | let's start ? | 15:11 |
| tmorin | #topic announce / what we did over last week | 15:12 |
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| tmorin | short summary: we didnt merge anything, but we worked on a lot of small things | 15:12 |
| tmorin | many changes are in the pipe | 15:12 |
| tmorin | most of them nearly ready for merging | 15:13 |
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| tmorin | a few simple changes are waiting for a second +2 | 15:13 |
| tmorin | matrohon: hint hint ^^ :) | 15:13 |
| matrohon | tmorin, ack, I'll look at them asap | 15:14 |
| tmorin | we also have a set of tempest backports on the stable/mitaka branch by eon`, for which test need to be rechecked because the neutron gate was broken when they were initially ran | 15:14 |
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| tmorin | and last, we have a set of cleanups for bagpipe driver to remove workarounds for incomplete neutron notifications, | 15:15 |
| tmorin | and a new evolution of bagpipe driver to overcome a past limitation (allow coexistence with Neutron routers) | 15:16 |
| tmorin | any question ? | 15:17 |
| matrohon | tmorin, those improvments don't have a dedicated bp or bug | 15:17 |
| matrohon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376309/13 | 15:17 |
| tmorin | many of them do have a LP bug | 15:17 |
| tmorin | bug 1629358 | 15:17 |
| openstack | bug 1629358 in networking-bgpvpn "bagpipe: use ROUTER_INTERFACE registry callback notifications" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629358 - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:17 |
| tmorin | bug 1576440 | 15:18 |
| openstack | bug 1576440 in networking-bgpvpn "bagpipe: revisit driver now that ML2 callback notifications are fixed" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1576440 - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:18 |
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| tmorin | bug 1627645 | 15:18 |
| openstack | bug 1627645 in networking-bgpvpn "bagpipe driver: need to co-exist with Neutron routers" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627645 - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:18 |
| tmorin | so, in fact, all of these change have a coresponding LP bug | 15:19 |
| tmorin | unless I'm mistaken ? | 15:19 |
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| matrohon | ok, I was lost because of the wrong topic branch name | 15:19 |
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| tmorin | ah yes, the topic are busted out, apparently because I did a stack of commits... | 15:20 |
| matrohon | yep, I'll move 1576440 to 5.0.0 | 15:20 |
| tmorin | there is one issue with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381091 : it relies on proper ROUTER_INTERFACE AFTER_CREATE notification, but the DVR L3 code is buggy | 15:20 |
| tmorin | matrohon: +1 | 15:20 |
| tmorin | bug 1629861 | 15:21 |
| openstack | bug 1629861 in neutron "L3 DVR: missing registry callback notification at Router Interface creation" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629861 - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:21 |
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| tmorin | the issue is that a fix for bug 1629861 is unlikely to be included in first neutron Newton release | 15:21 |
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| matrohon | why? | 15:22 |
| tmorin | too late | 15:22 |
| tmorin | I'm not sure if it is too late or note | 15:22 |
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| tmorin | I can ask ihar | 15:22 |
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| matrohon | so IIUC we may have a fix that does not work with DVR | 15:24 |
| matrohon | regarding the dependency tree, non of those 2 bugs can be fixed if the neutron bug is not merge in a newton-rc release | 15:27 |
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| tmorin | why ? | 15:29 |
| tmorin | ah yes | 15:29 |
| tmorin | but I can reorder the stack of patches to put the router_interface callback last on the stack and have it independent | 15:30 |
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| tmorin | parallel discussion in #openstack-neutron | 15:34 |
| tmorin | the conclusion would seem to be : no fix for this issue in neutron newton-1, so the fix for bug 1629358 will wait for ocata (or possibly a 5.0.1 if a fix lands in a neutron 9.0.1) | 15:36 |
| openstack | bug 1629358 in networking-bgpvpn "bagpipe: use ROUTER_INTERFACE registry callback notifications" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629358 - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:36 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:36 |
| tmorin | #topic newton release | 15:36 |
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| tmorin | I think the plan should be simple: finish pending reviews, then fork and release | 15:36 |
| tmorin | with the pre-requisite that I need to move https://review.openstack.org/381091 out of the way (issue above) | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: works for you ? | 15:37 |
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| matrohon | ok, it works for me, I'll wait for patches independent from neutron's one | 15:38 |
| tmorin | works for me | 15:39 |
| tmorin | anything else to discuss today ? | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | ok, thanks everyone | 15:42 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-10-04-15.02.html | 15:42 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 16:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-10-04_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| Drago1 | o/ | 16:00 |
| swatson | Stephen Watson o/ | 16:00 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:00 |
| tonanhngo | Ton Ngo | 16:00 |
| strigazi | o/ | 16:00 |
| hieulq_ | Hieu LE o/ | 16:00 |
| dane_leblanc_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| muralia | o/ | 16:00 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:00 |
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| diga_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | Hello Drago1 swatson jvgrant tonanhngo strigazi hieulq_ dane_leblanc_ muralia hongbin and diga | 16:01 |
| eghobo | o/ | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | hello eghobo | 16:02 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) There will be no team meeting on 2016-10-25 because that is the week of the OpenStack Summit in Barcelona. | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) I have responded indicating that the Magnum team will definitely participate in the PTG in Atlanta in February. | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Does anyone have questions about either of these? We will cover Design Summit planning later in our agenda today. | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) #action adrian_otto follow up with Kuryr PTL to arrage a joined session | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | Status: Pending. | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | I do have information from ttx about when the various session timeslots are planned | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | so I expect to have topics roughly arranged to those over the next week or so. | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto follow up with Kuryr PTL to arrange a joined session | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Essential Blueprint Review | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:06 |
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| strigazi | I was mostly testing the optional private network approach and there is a bp for that | 16:07 |
| strigazi | fetching | 16:07 |
| strigazi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/decouple-private-network | 16:07 |
| strigazi | With this change it will be possible to consolidate the bm vm drivers | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | thanks strigazi | 16:08 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto have a look at the bp | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | it will be nice to have a single driver for each COE/OS | 16:08 |
| strigazi | it's not approved yet | 16:08 |
| strigazi | That is the goal, | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | ok, one moment. | 16:08 |
| strigazi | then all drivers will be bm/vm compatible | 16:09 |
| strigazi | assuming there are bm images :) | 16:09 |
| muralia | how would we choose between a vm and bm? | 16:09 |
| strigazi | thanks | 16:09 |
| muralia | if a driver supports both? | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | okay, I approved the direction | 16:09 |
| strigazi | --server-type | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | and I set the definition status to Drafting | 16:09 |
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| strigazi | it will use the same templates | 16:10 |
| strigazi | muralia ^^ | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | we can talk a bit later about the right Series Goal and Milestone Target for it | 16:10 |
| muralia | sure | 16:10 |
| strigazi | it's very close | 16:11 |
| strigazi | muralia, do you have a question? | 16:11 |
| muralia | yes, we wanted to get away from looking at multiple flags before choosing a driver | 16:11 |
| muralia | now we'll have drivername and server_type | 16:11 |
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| Drago1 | It will still be one driver | 16:12 |
| strigazi | So you prefer to maitain two driver? | 16:12 |
| strigazi | So you prefer to maitain two drivers? | 16:12 |
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| muralia | sure. just getting --driver from the user should be good enough | 16:12 |
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| adrian_otto | let's table design discussion on this for now, and revisit it either in open discussion or in a subsequent topic section in an upcoming meeting. I do want to capture this, but I'm worried we may not have adequate time to cover what's planned for today. | 16:12 |
| muralia | ok | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | thanks muralia and strigazi | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:13 |
| tonanhngo | I don't have further update, likely won't get to revisit the user guide until after the summit. I think there is sufficient content for now. | 16:13 |
| tonanhngo | Unless Spyros wants to cover the operator guide, we can probably drop this from the agenda for now. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | should this BP be marked as Implemented, and superseded by a more narrowly scoped BP? | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | or is there actually work on the user guide that needs to be complete to consider this done? | 16:14 |
| tonanhngo | Well, I guess we can mark it as implemented, but of course it will be updated on an ongoing basis | 16:15 |
| strigazi | +1 | 16:15 |
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| tonanhngo | documentation is never done | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | I see the guide as a living document, so we will always be improving it | 16:15 |
| adrian_otto | exactly | 16:15 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, marking it as such. Feel free to open more BP's for the remaining scope. | 16:16 |
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| tonanhngo | sounds good, thanks Adrian | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers COE Bay Drivers (muralia) | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | (Cluster Drivers) | 16:16 |
| muralia | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374906/ | 16:16 |
| muralia | so the functional tests are still timing out and failing | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | There is a problem with the OSIC cluster and the devstack neutron configuration | 16:17 |
| muralia | I see a comment from spyros this morning and he's seeing the same behaviour as me. they pass on my devstack | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | so when I looked into this late last week it looked like there were external web resources used by python (libraries I think) that were failing to download in order to set up the gate test system. | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | the problem is that we use 10/8 | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | has that trouble continued, or are there other problems that I did not notice? | 16:18 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto, that is another problem and it is fixed | 16:18 |
| muralia | thats been fixed now. | 16:18 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I'm glad to hear that. | 16:18 |
| muralia | this morning, tests actually ran and failed due to time outs | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | do we need team participation or guidance from any other teams to get through the current trouble? | 16:19 |
| adrian_otto | I'm thinking timeouts = slow servers, or did we change the gate tests so they take longer now? | 16:19 |
| strigazi | Let me explain for a minute | 16:19 |
| strigazi | The osic cluster uses a physical network 10.0.0.0/8 | 16:20 |
| strigazi | and we use the same to provide the private network in the dsvm | 16:20 |
| strigazi | because of that rabbit it unreachable | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | oh, I see | 16:21 |
| strigazi | the neutron devstack team works on that | 16:21 |
| strigazi | I have pushed a temporary fix until they address the issue | 16:21 |
| strigazi | we'll if it works | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | so what if we used another RFC/1918 address range for our purposes? | 16:21 |
| muralia | did that get merged? | 16:21 |
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| strigazi | https://review.openstack.org/381940 | 16:21 |
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| strigazi | adrian_otto, yes that is the solution | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | but in patch 381940 the subnet is in the 10.0.0.0/8 block. | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | it's just an address toward the end of the block | 16:23 |
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| strigazi | What network do you propose? | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | okay, let's continue that discussion on the comment stream for: | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/381940 | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | 172.16.0.0/12 Might work well for that | 16:24 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:24 |
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| muralia | if other have time, do download the driver patch and test it while we wait for the gates to pass. | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, that concludes review for essential blueprints. Thanks muralia. | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Other Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:26 |
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| adrian_otto | Kuryr Integration Update (tango) | 16:26 |
| tonanhngo | Hongbin and I attended the Kuryr meeting yesterday. | 16:26 |
| tonanhngo | They have dropped the rest/api driver design due to the security concern we raised | 16:26 |
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| adrian_otto | oh, wow | 16:26 |
| tonanhngo | Now they are considering other ideas | 16:26 |
| tonanhngo | Hongbin suggested breaking the agent into two parts and 2 potential ways to handle secure connection | 16:27 |
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| tonanhngo | They asked us to post to the ML to ask for ideas from the Keystone team. I will do that later today | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | sweet. I'm thrilled to hear it. Thanks hongbin and tonanhngo. | 16:28 |
| tonanhngo | (describe the scenario and the requirement) | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | any other remarks on this topic? | 16:28 |
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| tonanhngo | We also suggested inviting the Keystone team to join our Barcelona session to discuss further | 16:28 |
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| tonanhngo | I did talk to the Keystone PTL (Steve) about this use case | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | thanks tonanhngo | 16:29 |
| tonanhngo | He doesn't see a good solution | 16:30 |
| tonanhngo | This may require something new | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | this might be something to put on the PTG schedule | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | and Summit | 16:30 |
| tonanhngo | we can see what we get from the ML | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | one last topic to clear before we get to Summit Session Planning | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | tonanhngo: okay to assign you an action for that? | 16:31 |
| tonanhngo | Sure | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | #action tonanhngo to lead am ML discussion to find potential solutions for secure Kuryr/Magnum integration. | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | s/am/an/ | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | next topic is: | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | Grenade gate for testing upgrades (Drago) | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | #action tonanhngo to lead an ML discussion to find potential solutions for secure Kuryr/Magnum integration. | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: anything to cover for this week on this topic? | 16:33 |
| Drago | So there is a project called Grenade that has a plugin that would allow us to test rolling upgrades to make sure no patch breaks upgrading from one version to the next | 16:33 |
| Drago | Heat has such a gate. Here's their spec for it https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/upgrade-tests.rst | 16:33 |
| Drago | I think Magnum should have a grenade gate as well | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/upgrade-tests.rst Heat Grenade Gate | 16:34 |
| jvgrant | +1 | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | +1 | 16:34 |
| strigazi | for our service? | 16:34 |
| muralia | +1 | 16:34 |
| strigazi | or to test the drivers? | 16:34 |
| hongbin | Drago: what exactly we are going to use this project to test? | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | yes, strigazi | 16:34 |
| Drago | For the service | 16:34 |
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| strigazi | ok | 16:34 |
| strigazi | sounds good | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | any opposing points of view to consider? | 16:35 |
| hongbin | I am still not sure what is covered by using that test? | 16:35 |
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| muralia | i guess we would test upgrades from the last magnum release (newton) to the latest in master | 16:35 |
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| hongbin | ok, that is basically a db migration | 16:36 |
| Drago | hongbin: It ought to function as it does for Heat. So the spec (and its links) should have the info you need | 16:36 |
| hongbin | ok, i need sometime to go though the spec | 16:36 |
| Drago | hongbin: As I understand it, it runs the service at different versions at the same time too, so not just a db migration | 16:36 |
| hongbin | so it run a mitaka magnum, and a newton magnum? | 16:37 |
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| Drago | Yes. Install M, upgrade one to N, then other to N | 16:37 |
| hongbin | what kinds of pitfall this test is going to capture? | 16:38 |
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| hongbin | maybe we don't need to discuss teh details in this meeting | 16:38 |
| Drago | hongbin: See https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade#theory-of-upgrade | 16:39 |
| hongbin | i am ok to postponse the discussion in irc | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/upgrade-tests.rst has a problem description section which would roughly apply to Magnum clusters as well. | 16:39 |
| Drago | That's all I had | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Drago | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Summit Session Planning | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-magnum-topics Summit Session Planning Etherpad | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like all of your input on the topics we should cover together in Barcelona | 16:41 |
| strigazi | where is the old document? | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | one moment, I will look | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | was it https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-newton-midcycle-topics ? | 16:42 |
| Drago | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-newton-midcycle-topics-restored-998 | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | the etherpad server seems really slow for me | 16:42 |
| Drago | Restored link ^ | 16:42 |
| strigazi | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ocata-summit-topics | 16:42 |
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| strigazi | from here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-09-20-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | oh, let's not use mine then | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | Let's use this one: | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-newton-midcycle-topics | 16:43 |
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| adrian_otto | but that's for newton | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | so I will copy those over to here: | 16:43 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ocata-summit-topics | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | right: | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ocata-summit-topics | 16:43 |
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| Drago | Lots of typing going on in the etherpad. What did we want to discuss about this during the meeting? | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | Drago: i just took a lot at the Grenade project. it seems it is a good idea to use it in magnum | 16:49 |
| Drago | hongbin: Good :) | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | Let's get the topics in the etherpad and put some votes on them to judge relative importance of each | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | and in a few minutes we can enter Open Discussion | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | we will revisit this again next week once I have matched what we have with our scheduled timeslots | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | our nodegroup pool design sessions will probably need 2 hours | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts on having both a fishbowl and discussion on that one? | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | ok, feel free to continue putting detail into the etherpad | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | I will enter open discussion as well now | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
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| Drago | jvgrant and I are going to try go get as much of the spec ironed out as possible so that people can review it before the summit and we have a better idea of what needs to be discussed there | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | thanks Drago and jvgrant | 16:55 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: Still +1 to fishbowl and discussion | 16:55 |
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| Drago | adrian_otto: Maybe have the fishbowl first? | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | ideally we would meet as a team and arrange our thoughts nicely around the spec, and then be ready to show that in a fishbowl for wider community input. | 16:56 |
| adrian_otto | but I do see the wisdom in reversing it if we have a spec worked out in advance | 16:56 |
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| Drago | adrian_otto: Yes, that's what I was hoping the lead-up to the summit would be | 16:56 |
| Drago | Otherwise I would agree that it'd make sense to do the fishbowl 2nd | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | I'd like us to be well prepared on all topics with supporting written plans (or problem statements) for each | 16:57 |
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| jvgrant | since we have all the initial design from mid-cycle and our first spec, it would be good to get a fishbowl, and then the last session to finalize to be ready to implement | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I'm happy to hold the fishbowl first, and then use a team session following that to act on the input. | 16:58 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: Perhaps we should dedicate some time in the last weekly meeting before the summit to have a more focused discussion on NodeGroups | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | jvgrant: +1 | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | okay, I can put our agendas up for the next two weeks | 16:58 |
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| adrian_otto | on the meetings page for Magnum | 16:58 |
| Drago | Which would be the 18th? And let everyone know about that next week | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | yep | 16:59 |
| Drago | Thanks | 16:59 |
| Drago | jvgrant: Maybe we could have an action item to get as much of the spec done this week as we can | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today. Our next meeting will be 2016-10-11 at 1600 UTC | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 4 16:59:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-10-04-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| jvgrant | Drago: that is a good goal, since i'll be out on vacation next week as well :) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-10-04-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-10-04-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 17:01:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| tlashchova__ | o/ | 17:01 |
| lexplua | Hi | 17:01 |
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| akholkin | o/ | 17:01 |
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| osh | \o | 17:02 |
| vakovalchuk | o// | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | we had no acction items from last meeting =) good for us | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MuranoAgenda | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Release Model Change | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok, this is more of a formal announcement | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm going to submit a patch later this week | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | to governance, changing our release model for the next cycle (which is Ocata) to release-with-intermediary | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we're going to try and be more agile with faster/shorter releases ) | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | Ocata is going to be a short cycle, so this is perfect time to experiment and see if this works our for us =) | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I have some concerns about murano-agent, but tbh it behaves a lot like client and | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | probably they should have similar models anyway | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Topics for Barcelona | 17:16 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | K. I didn't have time to get a list of topics for murano workroom we have on Thursday | 17:17 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | unfortunatelly | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action kzaitsev_mb gat a list of topics and choose one for WS | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's make my obligation formal ) | 17:18 |
| sergmeli_ | you are talking about fishbowl session? | 17:18 |
| sergmeli_ | I guess for the workgroup meeting we can keep agenda fairly open | 17:18 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sergmeli_: I'd like to spend fishbowl (the big one) a 'what's new/feedback' discussion | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | like we did in Austin | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | see if we managed to address requests from our users in newton =) at least some ) | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but we also need to deside a topic for WR room =) | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | gotta ping ativelkov and StanLagun for that, since they're both coming afaik ) | 17:21 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | but we also need to deside a topic for WR room =) | 17:22 |
| sergmelikyan | what do you think about sending mail with etherpad and gather feedback from teem? | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the team is really overloaded now, so I don't dream of getting any feedback tbh ) | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | noone did answer http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104529.html this one for instance =) | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | except for Zhu Rong | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | which brings us to the next discussion topic, that I've left for OD | 17:27 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-barcelona-wr | 17:28 |
| * sergmelikyan went and fixed that | 17:29 | |
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| sergmelikyan | time works for me, changing time of the meeting may be confusing at the beginning but may increase coverage | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | for those who would like to give some feedback on wr and reads meeting notes ) | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | let's move to OD then | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #topic Open Discussion | 17:30 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | yeah, regarding | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104529.html | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm a bit concerned, that no one from Zhu Rong's team did answer | 17:30 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I mean I was sure there were a couple of folks with him, who wanted to participate, but current time was too late for them | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | at least I got that impression from talking to Nikolay_ST | 17:31 |
| osh_ | Maybe that was the message from the whole zhurong team | 17:32 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | gotta ping him =) | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | osh_: if you ever see him on IRC pls bring this up =) | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'll do the same ) | 17:36 |
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| osh_ | Deal (: | 17:37 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ok =) anyone anything more? =) | 17:42 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | k. folks thanks for joining today =) | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ending the meeting 5 just a bit early | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 4 17:56:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-10-04-17.01.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-10-04-17.01.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-10-04-17.01.log.html | 17:56 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 4 19:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherine_d|1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:00 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-10-04 | 19:00 |
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| sslypushenko | o/ | 19:02 |
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| catherine_d|1 | agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-10-04 | 19:03 |
| catherine_d|1 | Let's start | 19:03 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Barcelona summit working session | 19:04 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:04 |
| catherine_d|1 | Rockyg: did you get the agenda link above? | 19:04 |
| Rockyg | yup. | 19:04 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link Please add your topics to the etherpad ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-ocata-summit ) | 19:04 |
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| catherine_d|1 | right now we have 3 topics on the agenda for the summit. Please add yours if there is any! | 19:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | moving on ... | 19:06 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #topic RefStack client whitelist (test list) | 19:06 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #link The whitelist conversation started from this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381232/ | 19:07 |
| catherine_d|1 | background information .. | 19:08 |
| catherine_d|1 | refstack-client whitelist was created before ostestr was in place | 19:08 |
| catherine_d|1 | ostestr now does provide whitelist ... question is : does refstack-client still need to create the list or can we use the ostestr whitelist? | 19:09 |
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| Rockyg | good question! | 19:10 |
| catherine_d|1 | Lucz: may be most familiar with ostestr .. she is not here .. I will contact her ... | 19:10 |
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| sslypushenko | I guess for now there is no reason to migrate to ostestr | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko | *ostestr whitelisting | 19:11 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: I think that the new tempest test runner can do that, and mtreinish would really like refstack to move to using it | 19:11 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: we already did from testing point of view .. | 19:11 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: that is my intention .. | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko | yeap... I meant whitelist thing | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381232/ looks good enough just need some testing | 19:13 |
| catherine_d|1 | we would like to use whatever tempest provides to minimize maintenant on our side too ,,, whitelist was not provided earlier that is why refstack-client created it .. | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko | but if it just works... why we should change things? | 19:14 |
| hogepodge | sslypushenko: for features and support from qa team | 19:15 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: to avoid further maintenance .. | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko | but then we should maintain our docs | 19:15 |
| sslypushenko | because if ostestr change API docs should be updated | 19:15 |
| catherine_d|1 | but we need to first of all findout whether ther whitelist provides by Tempest is suitable for our use. | 19:15 |
| Rockyg | ++ to docs maintenance | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko | in other hand... while we use our implementation - docs are up to date) | 19:16 |
| catherine_d|1 | there is no doc update from our side because the implementation is a black box to RefStack users | 19:17 |
| catherine_d|1 | it is just code update whether we use our code or ostestr | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko | I guess ostestr use a bit different formart | 19:17 |
| catherine_d|1 | but first of call we need to make sure that we can use ostestr .. | 19:18 |
| sslypushenko | then we are using | 19:18 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: that is what we need to find out ... if it does not meet our spec we still need to use ours | 19:18 |
| catherine_d|1 | I will check with Lucz: | 19:18 |
| sslypushenko | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/os-testr/ostestr.html | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Y5ipvqxT/ | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | #action catherine_d|1: to check with Lucz: on whitelist in ostestr vs refstack-client | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko | so yes... it has different format | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: thx | 19:19 |
| catherine_d|1 | we will revisit this topic next week | 19:20 |
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| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: the intention is if there is any feature provides by tempest we will make sure to use it if we can | 19:20 |
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| catherine_d|1 | anything else on this topic ... | 19:21 |
| catherine_d|1 | moving on ... | 19:21 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Taget to merge feature/vendor to master | 19:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Taget to merge feature/vendor to master (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:21 | |
| catherine_d|1 | right now all the vendor and product registration patches reside in the feature./vendor branch | 19:22 |
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| catherine_d|1 | we want to merge this branch to master before the summit ... | 19:22 |
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| catherine_d|1 | the target dates are list in the agenda .. | 19:22 |
| catherine_d|1 | we have a very tight schedule ... | 19:23 |
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| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: how many more pathes do you think we need ? | 19:23 |
| pvaneck | catherine_d|1, hard to say exactly, but for essentials, i have 2-3 more coming up | 19:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: thx | 19:24 |
| catherine_d|1 | according to the schedule on the agenda | 19:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | Target date to merge all pending patches to feature/vendor branch: Oct 12, 2016 | 19:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | in order to meet the Oct 12 target dates ... we need your help to review the patches as soon as it appears on the system | 19:25 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: I would probably bother you and Andrey a lot during this time .... | 19:27 |
| sslypushenko | me - definitely not) | 19:27 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: thx ... we just want a last push to achieve what we set forward for this cycle | 19:28 |
| sslypushenko | yeap... this thing is very important | 19:28 |
| catherine_d|1 | it would be our significant accomplishment once we have vendor/product registraton on line ... | 19:28 |
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| sslypushenko | + | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | after all we have been work on this for at least 3 cycle (from discussion to implemenation ...) | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | thank you all ... | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | too bad Alex and Andrey is noit here today ... | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | they are a big part for this implemenation | 19:29 |
| catherine_d|1 | so according to the schedule ... if we have all the patches merge to feature/vendor on Oct 12 | 19:30 |
| catherine_d|1 | we would be able to release the change to the refstack server Oct 17 ... | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko | I'd also like to see vendor guidelines... but at least registration is good too | 19:31 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: definitely ... | 19:31 |
| catherine_d|1 | that would be our Ocata priority | 19:31 |
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| catherine_d|1 | the feature we have today are the fundation for the customized guidelines | 19:32 |
| sslypushenko | I have a good example here in Mirantis)) One of our QA teams tries reinvent tempest because of lack of custom guidelines ))) it looks pretty funny) | 19:33 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I just add the guideline topic to the summit etherpad | 19:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | sslypushenko: that is good | 19:34 |
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| sslypushenko | will see)) | 19:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | anything else? | 19:35 |
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| catherine_d|1 | moving on then .. | 19:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | #topic Pending reviews | 19:35 |
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| catherine_d|1 | waiver patches | 19:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link Spec: Implement additional properties Defcore waiver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ | 19:36 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: and catherine_d|1: have reviewed ... sslypushenko: pvaneck: please review ... I think this patch is ready to merge | 19:36 |
| catherine_d|1 | #action sslypushenko: pvaneck: to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349213/ | 19:37 |
| pvaneck | okay | 19:38 |
| catherine_d|1 | once this spec is merge we then can review the implementatiom | 19:38 |
| catherine_d|1 | #action everyone please review Implemenation: Added Defcore additional properties waiver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/ | 19:38 |
| catherine_d|1 | next | 19:39 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link Add verification_status field to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379839/ | 19:39 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I guess pvaneck: will push an update and we will review again? | 19:39 |
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| pvaneck | yep, working on it now | 19:40 |
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| catherine_d|1 | pvaneck: thx | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | next | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link Fix regex to find test id ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381232/ ) | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | we talked about this | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | if the whitelist from ostestr and refstack-client are differenet ... we will review and merge this patch | 19:41 |
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| catherine_d|1 | I will check with luxC as stated earlier .... I can also review the link provided by sslypushenko: earlier | 19:41 |
| luzC | hello... sorry to be so late... | 19:42 |
| catherine_d|1 | luzC: np it is ealiser to assign work to you while you are not here :-) | 19:42 |
| luzC | :-) | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | just kidding pls review the log essentially we want to check whether the whitelist provides by ostestr can be used by refstack-client | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | so refstack-client does not duplicated the feature that is now provided by ostestr ... you and I can discuss offline | 19:44 |
| catherine_d|1 | moving on | 19:44 |
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| catherine_d|1 | #link Fix missing dependency in refstack-client ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361189/ ) | 19:44 |
| catherine_d|1 | I have +2 this path ... | 19:44 |
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| catherine_d|1 | basically it is a nice to have package ... | 19:45 |
| catherine_d|1 | refstack-client has been able to run without it ,,, but it does not hurt to include this package | 19:46 |
| catherine_d|1 | #action sslypushenko: pvaneck: luzC: to review and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361189/ | 19:47 |
| catherine_d|1 | anything else? | 19:47 |
| catherine_d|1 | if not we can end the meeting 12 mins early today :-) | 19:48 |
| luzC | about the whitelist... I added that method (list_parser.create_whitelist) in the patch when using ostestr... | 19:48 |
| luzC | basically instead of a file with a list of names... it use a file with a list of test ids | 19:49 |
| catherine_d|1 | luzC: could you check whether this whitelist can be used for testing> | 19:49 |
| catherine_d|1 | list of id is not good for refstrack test | 19:50 |
| catherine_d|1 | since we know that test id is not unique for test | 19:50 |
| luzC | yes, this is the list that it is used in refstack and ostestr and the new "tempest run" command... | 19:50 |
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| luzC | each test case has this unique id | 19:51 |
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| catherine_d|1 | luzC: it does not | 19:51 |
| luzC | how come? | 19:51 |
| catherine_d|1 | each test method has unique id ... | 19:52 |
| catherine_d|1 | but each test case which is identified with fully qualified test name can be referred to the same test id | 19:52 |
| catherine_d|1 | luzC: let's discuss this at #refstack | 19:53 |
| luzC | ok | 19:53 |
| catherine_d|1 | anything else beside whitelist? | 19:53 |
| catherine_d|1 | thank you everyone! | 19:54 |
| catherine_d|1 | #endmeeting | 19:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 4 19:54:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-10-04-19.00.html | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-10-04-19.00.txt | 19:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-10-04-19.00.log.html | 19:54 |
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