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| devkulkarni1 | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 14:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
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| zhurong | 0/ | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni1 | hi zhurong | 14:01 |
| zhurong | hi devkulkarni1 | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets wait to see if anyone else joins us | 14:02 |
| zhurong | devkulkarni1 sure | 14:02 |
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| devkulkarni1 | looks like pt_15 is not around today | 14:08 |
| zhurong | yep, maybe busy with something | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni1 | zhurong: I saw you have reviewed the app create patch | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni1 | cool | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni1 | I know that pt_15 wanted to sync up with you about it | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni1 | were you two able to touch base on it? | 14:09 |
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| zhurong | devkulkarni1 create need your more help about the create field | 14:11 |
| zhurong | you need pay more attention to this | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni1 | I see.. ok I will ping pt_15 about it | 14:12 |
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| devkulkarni1 | there was one more patch that is missing imo.. it is to deploy the created application.. | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni1 | it corresponds to the 'solum app deploy <app-name>' command | 14:13 |
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| pt_15 | hi everyone | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni1 | once that is there, all the app patches should be good | 14:14 |
| pt_15 | sorry I'm late | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni1 | hi pt_15 | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni1 | no worries | 14:14 |
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| devkulkarni1 | zhurong and I were just discussing about your patches | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: looks like app create is blocked on my input? | 14:15 |
| devkulkarni1 | lets discuss | 14:15 |
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| pt_15 | yeah, I actually had a question regarding that | 14:15 |
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| pt_15 | the thing is that since there are multiple ways to actually create the app like app file, or actually giving details as it is | 14:16 |
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| pt_15 | what exactly should be done regarding having required and not-required fields | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni1 | I see | 14:16 |
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| pt_15 | and even when app file is given, other details can still be given right? | 14:17 |
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| zhurong | pt_15 just use the select for the create app way, select app file, chose the file, select details, show the app create detail field | 14:18 |
| devkulkarni1 | to begin with, we can concentrate on following fields to take input directly from the user in one tab: name, languagepack, version, github url of app, run_cmd, test_cmd (this is optional, but we should show it in the ui).. in a sub-tab we can add an option to select an app file | 14:19 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: however, will the fields be required then? | 14:20 |
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| devkulkarni1 | in the tab from which you are taking per-field input, the required fields are: name, languagepack, version, github url, run_cmd. in the tab from which you will take the app file as input, the only required field will be app file location | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni1 | does that make sense? | 14:22 |
| pt_15 | oh ok, cool | 14:22 |
| pt_15 | zhurong: is there a way of making tabs in the form ui? | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni1 | tab or something else.. | 14:23 |
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| devkulkarni1 | basically, we should have two different ways to provide inputs | 14:23 |
| devkulkarni1 | one which allows us to specify the required fields | 14:23 |
| pt_15 | zhurong: regarding the options you mentioned to select the method of input | 14:23 |
| devkulkarni1 | another which allows us to specify app file | 14:24 |
| devkulkarni1 | is something of this possible within horizon framework? | 14:24 |
| pt_15 | how does that work? again, is there a way provided by horizon to do this? | 14:24 |
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| zhurong | pt_15 just use select choice | 14:25 |
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| zhurong | two ways, select one of them, only show this way's fields | 14:26 |
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| pt_15 | zhurong: oh ok, is there any docs for horizon where I can take reference for this from? | 14:27 |
| zhurong | I find a example for you pt_15 | 14:28 |
| pt_15 | zhurong: oh cool, thanks a lot! :D | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni1 | +1 | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: any other patch needs clarifications? | 14:28 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: also I had a question regarding lp create | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni1 | sure | 14:29 |
| pt_15 | actually regarding where description for lp comes from? | 14:29 |
| pt_15 | since it is never explicitly given when creating an lp | 14:29 |
| zhurong | pt_15 see the upload image form, there can select image url and image file | 14:29 |
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| pt_15 | zhurong: oh ok, I'll take a look at that :) | 14:31 |
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| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: good question.. in the cli there used to be a flag that could be supplied with lp create to set description.. but I don't recall if we have used it much.. so don't know if it still works.. for now, I suggest you create a bug for future reference to set the description when creating a lp through ui | 14:32 |
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| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: does that make sense? | 14:34 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: yeah, I'll do that :) | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: I wanted to discuss about one more patch, which is currently missing | 14:35 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: sure | 14:35 |
| devkulkarni1 | it is to deploy an app .. it corresponds to 'solum app deploy <app-name>' command | 14:36 |
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| devkulkarni1 | from the cli, this call makes a POST request to workflows resource which is under app .. /apps/<app-id>/workflows | 14:37 |
| pt_15 | i actually have submitted a patch for that (although it requires a bit ok work): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345180/ | 14:37 |
| devkulkarni1 | ah I see.. this is from the set which you had submitted earlier | 14:37 |
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| devkulkarni1 | ok good.. so the patch is there.. now you probably need to test it in your setup | 14:38 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: yeah, I have tested it, but it requires a bit of work currently | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: sure.. just wanted to bring it up so that we don't forget. good that you already have the patch | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni1 | btw, is lp create patch blocked only blocked on the description field issue that we discussed earlier? | 14:40 |
| caowei | I'm late | 14:40 |
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| devkulkarni1 | hi caowei | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni1 | nice to see you | 14:40 |
| caowei | hi | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni1 | we have pt_15 and zhurong with us as well | 14:41 |
| caowei | me too | 14:41 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: yeah, so I'll fix that today, it'll be top priority, so we can get that merged asap :) | 14:41 |
| pt_15 | hi caowei :) | 14:41 |
| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: +1 | 14:41 |
| caowei | hi | 14:41 |
| devkulkarni1 | pt_15: ping me once the patch is ready | 14:42 |
| caowei | hi pt_15 | 14:42 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni1: sure, I will :) | 14:42 |
| caowei | pt_15: I saw your working, that's great | 14:43 |
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| pt_15 | thank you caowei :) | 14:43 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: did you see my comment on your latest patch? also, your earlier patch has got -1 from Jenkins, which probably you have already noticed | 14:44 |
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| devkulkarni1 | hi shivaSR | 14:46 |
| devkulkarni1 | we have zhurong, caowei, and pt_15 as well | 14:46 |
| zhurong | hi shivaSR | 14:46 |
| shivaSR | Hi Dev, Hello to everyone else as well. | 14:46 |
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| devkulkarni1 | shivaSR: welcome.. do you want to quickly update others about your use-case and interest in solum | 14:47 |
| shivaSR | Sure, So I am adding support to solum to deploy applications in unikernels. Specifically the rumprun unikernel | 14:48 |
| shivaSR | At this point my implementation is as follows: | 14:48 |
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| shivaSR | I build a base image using default solum code (a lp rather) | 14:49 |
| pt_15 | hi shivaSR :) | 14:49 |
| shivaSR | In the language pack I have the tools required to compile application code into the rumprun unikernel via a compile.sh script | 14:49 |
| shivaSR | hi pt_15 ;0 | 14:49 |
| shivaSR | ;) | 14:50 |
| shivaSR | then I modified the default build-app script in solum to extract the unikernel executable and upload it to glance. | 14:50 |
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| caowei | devkulkarni1: please help to look https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1609334 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609334 in Solum "deployer LOG_DIR Initialization" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to caowei (caowei-e) | 14:51 |
| shivaSR | The id of the uploaded image is returned to solum for it to handle deployment of the application on nova as implemented by you guys | 14:51 |
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| shivaSR | However, as devkulkarni and I were discussing yesterday it appears that heat does not yet have support for glance V2 so this breaks my process since I need properties only included in glance v2. | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni1 | shivaSR: did you run into any hurdles with build-app in these steps? or was it alright | 14:51 |
| devkulkarni1 | caowei: ack. will take a look | 14:52 |
| shivaSR | dev, it was pretty straight forward actually | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | shivaSR: nice.. glad to hear that | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | shivaSR: about the heat issue.. | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni1 | I was going to suggest to check with the heat team if it is indeed the case that heat is not yet supporting glance v2 | 14:53 |
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| devkulkarni1 | most likely they might be supporting it and there might be some modification/tweak that we need to make in the HOT | 14:53 |
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| shivaSR | Yea, this morning I was reading up on it. It appears that heat in fact does not support the v2. I messaged the heat guys to find out the exact details. | 14:54 |
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| devkulkarni1 | oh okay.. hmm is that a blocker for you? does your workflow in nova need the kernel-id? | 14:55 |
| shivaSR | yes it is. I may try to figure out a way to modify the code as a temporary workaround. to get the solum side of things working. But as it is heat needs to be updated. | 14:55 |
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| devkulkarni1 | good morning vijendar | 14:56 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni1: hi | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni1 | shivaSR: how about a workaround in nova so that you don't need to have kernel-id? | 14:56 |
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| devkulkarni1 | vijendar: we have shivaSR, pt_15, zhurong and caowei with us | 14:57 |
| vijendar | Hi all! | 14:57 |
| shivaSR | yes, thats where I intend to add the workaround. However, kernel-id seems to be standard way to tell nova which glance image is the kernel for a particular image. | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni1 | ah I see | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni1 | solum workaround will be to not use glance version 1, which should be straight forward | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni1 | so looks like heat is a blocker for your currently | 14:58 |
| shivaSR | yup. | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | you might have to add support for glance v2 in heat (at least in your setup) | 14:59 |
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| devkulkarni1 | alright.. we are almost at the end of our meeting time.. we can continue the discussion in solum channel | 14:59 |
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| devkulkarni1 | thanks all for joining today | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | see you next week | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni1 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 14:59:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-08-03-14.00.html | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-08-03-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-08-03-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
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| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 15:00:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| obondarev | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | I wanted to talk a little about the namespace.exists() changes but got side-tracked. will update the agenda while swami talks about bugs | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
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| Swami | haleyb: thanks will talk about it. | 15:03 |
| Swami | There was no new bugs this week. | 15:03 |
| haleyb | there was 1609217, but i just triaged it :) | 15:03 |
| Swami | But there was one bug that was initially tagged with l3-ha and now it has been tagged to l3-dvr-backlog. | 15:03 |
| Swami | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1602320 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602320 in neutron "ha + distributed router: keepalived process kill vrrp child process" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 15:04 |
| Swami | Just reading the bug log. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | Yes I think the bug 1609217 is not a bug. | 15:06 |
| openstack | bug 1609217 in neutron "DVR: dvr router should not exist in not-binded network node" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1609217 | 15:06 |
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| Swami | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1602794 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602794 in neutron "ItemAllocator class can throw a ValueError when file is corrupted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:07 |
| haleyb | We need another core to +2 that | 15:07 |
| Swami | This patch should be merged soon. | 15:07 |
| Swami | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1602614 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602614 in neutron "DVR + L3 HA loss during failover is higher that it is expected" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata) | 15:07 |
| Swami | This week I did not have any time to triage these bugs. | 15:08 |
| Swami | As I mentioned earlier we have a bunch of L3/HA/DVR bugs that have to be triaged and fixed and I am not sure if they all depend on anil-venkata's changes that he mentioned last week on the generic port-binding. | 15:08 |
| Swami | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1597461 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597461 in neutron "L3 HA: 2 masters after reboot of controller" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ann Taraday (akamyshnikova) | 15:09 |
| Swami | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1593354 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593354 in neutron "SNAT HA failed because of missing nat rule in snat namespace iptable" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| jschwarz | I was supposed to look at that but didn't get there | 15:09 |
| jschwarz | (on 1597461) | 15:09 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: i can reproduce 1597461 without a reboot | 15:10 |
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| haleyb | and without killing the agent | 15:10 |
| Swami | jschwarz: fine, you can update the bug report once you have a solution. | 15:10 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, us too - we have guys who also got into that state a while back | 15:10 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: i was going to continue looking into it, but will gladly defer to you | 15:11 |
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| jschwarz | haleyb, I will do my best to allocate some time for this in the coming days | 15:11 |
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| jschwarz | l3 ha scheduler races seems to have stabilized a bit so.. | 15:11 |
| Swami | jschwarz: good | 15:11 |
| Swami | jschwarz: Has you patch for generalizing the auto-scheduler landed or not. | 15:12 |
| jschwarz | Swami, not yet | 15:12 |
| jschwarz | Swami, basically I was working on a CaS mechanism to lock the router's schedule() operations to ensure non-concurrency | 15:12 |
| Swami | jschwarz: does it has any impact on any of this l3 ha dvr snat ha issues that we are talking about. | 15:13 |
| jschwarz | it got stack for a while but me and kevinbenton settled on a path in the middle | 15:13 |
| jschwarz | I will resume work on that soon | 15:13 |
| Swami | jschwarz: ok thanks | 15:13 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: let me know if i can help, i'll leave my systems in place to test patches (on the dual-master bug) | 15:13 |
| jschwarz | Swami, I don't think it impacts, but I need to have a deeper look at those bug reports. can we sync after this meeting? | 15:13 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, excellent, thanks :) | 15:14 |
| Swami | jschwarz: I have a meeting in the next hour, if you can ping me later we can sync up or either tomorrow, since you are in a different time zone. | 15:14 |
| jschwarz | Swami, ack | 15:14 |
| Swami | jschwarz: thanks | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: I don't have any new bugs to discuss. May be you can jump on to the namespace.exists issue that would like to discuss. | 15:15 |
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| haleyb | Swami: ok, just pushing update, but will just paste here | 15:16 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok will take a look at the diff | 15:17 |
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| haleyb | obondarev: i put a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348372 noting how it is similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309050/ (and related to swami's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326729/) | 15:17 |
| obondarev | haleyb: yep, saw that | 15:18 |
| haleyb | Can we discuss the first two and select one? They seem to so the same thing | 15:18 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok, no problem. | 15:18 |
| obondarev | haleyb: sure | 15:18 |
| obondarev | they are fixing the problem on different levels | 15:19 |
| obondarev | I mean the first two patches | 15:19 |
| haleyb | yes, let's just focus on the first two | 15:19 |
| obondarev | not sure how I feel about returning empty list from get_devices() if ns does not exists | 15:20 |
| haleyb | one fixes ip_lib, the other the dvr code | 15:20 |
| obondarev | as it can mean two things | 15:20 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes. | 15:20 |
| obondarev | no namespace or no devices | 15:20 |
| haleyb | obondarev: right, but if we change all callers of get_devices() to check the namespace aren't we doing the same thing? | 15:21 |
| obondarev | is it only get_devices that can fail? | 15:21 |
| obondarev | I guess it’s ns.delete() as well | 15:21 |
| Swami | obondarev: get_devices is one of the failures that we might see. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | right, we'd still need to put a check in namespaces.py | 15:22 |
| haleyb | or i think it can acutally deal, just log a warning | 15:22 |
| obondarev | honestly I don’t have a strong opinion for now, as just saw the alternate patch | 15:22 |
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| obondarev | but i think it makes sense to try fix the issue at a higher layer | 15:23 |
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| obondarev | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309050/ is closer to it | 15:23 |
| Swami | obondarev: so are we saying we are aligning with the first patch rather than the second one. | 15:23 |
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| haleyb | i think we need both, just like we need the dvr_snat patch, but if we adopt 309050 then part of obondarev's patch goes away | 15:24 |
| obondarev | haleyb: agree, I think we can iterate on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309050/ first, then see if anything else needed | 15:25 |
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| jschwarz | I don't like the fact that the second patch offers ambiguous return values (empty list could be actually empty, or an error) | 15:25 |
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| jschwarz | raising an exception is the same behaviour as now | 15:25 |
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| obondarev | jschwarz: agree, that’s my concern as well | 15:26 |
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| Swami | obondarev: jschwarz: +1 | 15:27 |
| jschwarz | anyway this can be deferred until we make a decision, since it only triggers when something goes wrong in the server (some race condition, etc) | 15:27 |
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| obondarev | jschwarz: no only | 15:27 |
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| jschwarz | obondarev, when else? | 15:28 |
| obondarev | jschwarz: I mean we shouldn’t think about server, agent should handle those cases anyway | 15:28 |
| jschwarz | obondarev, I agree - i meant that we shouldn't feel rush to make a decision now since it doesn't appear unless there are problems in the server (which afaik we fixed most) | 15:29 |
| obondarev | jschwarz: no rush of course | 15:29 |
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| jschwarz | I'm thinking perhaps 309050 could catch the RuntimeError but produce an actual informative exception | 15:29 |
| haleyb | to me, no rush == no decision, and we have lots of bugs to fix :( | 15:30 |
| jschwarz | then that error can be caught on the calling side | 15:30 |
| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 15:30 |
| jschwarz | but that adds a lot of overhead code | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: well, we could add an arg to get_devices, or just add a docstring that it will return [] in certain cases and move forward | 15:31 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, but it's not only get_devices - delete() can also fail | 15:31 |
| jschwarz | and probably some other functions as well | 15:31 |
| jschwarz | 309050 should deal with all of those ip_lib functions | 15:32 |
| jschwarz | IMO | 15:32 |
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| obondarev | but the bug is about get_devices | 15:33 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: so put a check in _as_root() ? that's the bottom but not practical i don't think | 15:33 |
| Swami | jschwarz: but that patch is specific to get_devices, do you think that same patch should address all ip_lib related failures. | 15:33 |
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| haleyb | i agree we should put a check in the namespace deletion path as well though | 15:34 |
| jschwarz | all I'm saying is that we might fix get_devices now, but somewhere along the way in a cycle or so, we're going to hate ourselves for not dealing with the other functions | 15:34 |
| jschwarz | we could... add a decorator that makes sure that the namespace exists before running the ip_lib function | 15:35 |
| jschwarz | and use that decorator on all the functions we think are relevant | 15:35 |
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| haleyb | jschwarz: that might be a long-term play, but will take a lot of auditing to get it right | 15:36 |
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| haleyb | we know we have an issue with get_devices() today so should fix it | 15:37 |
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| obondarev | we have the issue with delete as well | 15:38 |
| obondarev | delete() | 15:38 |
| obondarev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1606844 will still be there if fix only get_devices() | 15:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1606844 in neutron "L3 agent constantly resyncing deleted router" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:38 |
| haleyb | Namespace.delete() or RouterNamespace.delete() ? the second is calling get_devices() | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | obondarev: then i guess the answer is to fix this in the agent code, so your and swami's patches | 15:40 |
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| obondarev | haleyb: that will be faster I guess | 15:40 |
| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 15:40 |
| haleyb | or we get rid of the namespace cleaner utility :) | 15:40 |
| jschwarz | I agree. it makes more sense that *Namespace.delete() will just pass if the namespace doesn't exist (get_devices() should fail if the namespace isn't there) | 15:40 |
| obondarev | I’ll update the patch shortly then | 15:41 |
| haleyb | ok, so we prioritize https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348372 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326729/ - they do share some code | 15:41 |
| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 15:42 |
| haleyb | i feel like i can take the rest of the day off :) | 15:42 |
| obondarev | both adding exists(self) | 15:42 |
| haleyb | yes, so there's a small conflict | 15:42 |
| obondarev | well that should merge fine | 15:42 |
| jschwarz | rebase Swami's on obondarev's? | 15:42 |
| obondarev | I mean if code change is the same in the file | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | Oleg's is smaller so it should merge faster | 15:43 |
| obondarev | I don’t think we should rebase | 15:43 |
| Swami | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326729/ this is ready to merge, I think the jenkins has also passed | 15:43 |
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| obondarev | just what goes first - the second will rebase on master | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | okies | 15:43 |
| jschwarz | :) | 15:43 |
| haleyb | jschwarz: swami might disagree being on PS32+ | 15:43 |
| haleyb | Any more bugs? | 15:44 |
| Swami | haleyb: jschwarz : yep! | 15:44 |
| obondarev | a bit concerned with dvr multinode in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326729/ | 15:44 |
| obondarev | is the failure rate the same as in other patches? | 15:44 |
| haleyb | obondarev: i was going to get to check/gate failures, probably not that one patch | 15:45 |
| Swami | haleyb: you mentioned that nova was the cause for the multinode failure. | 15:45 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate failures | 15:45 |
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| haleyb | So last week there was a nova change that broke multinode | 15:45 |
| jschwarz | obondarev, it's non-voting anyway ;-) | 15:45 |
| obondarev | jschwarz: haha | 15:45 |
| haleyb | patch merged - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348186/ | 15:46 |
| haleyb | but rate went from 100% down to ~25% | 15:46 |
| Swami | haleyb: that is good. | 15:46 |
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| haleyb | so there's clearly something still broken in the check queue. gate queue seems ok | 15:47 |
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| Swami | haleyb: also I am seeing functional test failures on test_db_find_column_type_list(vsctl) | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | Swami: that might be yet another bug | 15:48 |
| haleyb | obondarev: http://logs.openstack.org/29/326729/33/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/a64ca3d/console.html is showing "Instance 3c2dc519-b630-40a7-9592-2df5e0b2659b could not be found." | 15:49 |
| haleyb | that could be nova as well | 15:49 |
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| obondarev | haleyb: right | 15:50 |
| obondarev | haleyb: I saw ssh timeout several times as well on this patch | 15:50 |
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| Swami | haleyb: Also the functional test has some stale namespace that are being re-used that has to be fixed. I will raise a bug on this. | 15:51 |
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| Swami | haleyb: It produces inconsistent results. | 15:51 |
| haleyb | Swami: thanks | 15:52 |
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| obondarev | http://logs.openstack.org/29/326729/33/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/a64ca3d/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-l3.txt.gz#_2016-08-03_12_17_22_640 | 15:52 |
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| obondarev | ah, same in http://logs.openstack.org/72/348372/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/7e1e32d/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-l3.txt.gz#_2016-08-02_18_06_51_162 | 15:53 |
| obondarev | so its unrelated I guess | 15:53 |
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| haleyb | does anyone have time to figure out if there is a common failure in the 25% | 15:55 |
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| Swami | haleyb: If I have time I will take a look at it | 15:55 |
| haleyb | Swami: thanks, guess we need to recruit more people to work on dvr :) | 15:56 |
| obondarev | haleyb: + | 15:56 |
| haleyb | #topic Open Discussion | 15:56 |
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| anilvenkata | obondarev, haleyb, Swami jschwarz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255237/ is the alternate approach I proposed for DVR+HA+l2pop patches (which u all reviewed) very long back(i.e february 2016) without any dependency on DVR, I will respin it today. Then I can abandon DVR HA portbinding patches | 15:56 |
| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 15:56 |
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| Swami | anilvenkata: thanks, will take a look at it. | 15:57 |
| anilvenkata | Swami, thanks Swami | 15:57 |
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| haleyb | Swami: the nova patch for live migration got a -1 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073 - i'll see about updating | 15:57 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:58 |
| haleyb | it looks like nits to me, but... | 15:58 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes little nits, but there was question about a negative test case. | 15:58 |
| jschwarz | anilvenkata, ping me when you respin, I'll have a look :) | 15:59 |
| haleyb | Swami: what is the behaviour there? | 15:59 |
| anilvenkata | jschwarz, sure, thanks John | 15:59 |
| * haleyb notes we have :30 | 15:59 | |
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| haleyb | thanks guys, good meeting, but we're out of time | 16:00 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| jschwarz | bye guys :) | 16:00 |
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| Swami | bye to all | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 16:00:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-08-03-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-08-03-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-08-03-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | hello | 16:01 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:02 |
| anilvenkata | hi | 16:02 |
| rkukura | We’ll start in a moment | 16:02 |
| rkukura | Anyone else here for ML2 today? | 16:03 |
| sadasu | hello! | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | great, lets get going… | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | oops | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 16:04:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:05 |
| rkukura | that’s better ;) | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:05 | |
| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_August_3.2C_2016 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | Anything to add or remove? | 16:05 |
| rkukura | OK | 16:06 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Neutron N-3 is Sept 1 | 16:06 |
| rkukura | Mid-cycle is Aug 17-19 in Cork, Ireland | 16:07 |
| rkukura | Any of you going to the mid-cycle? | 16:07 |
| sadasu | I wish! | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Barcelona presentation voting is underway | 16:08 |
| rkukura | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | I will check if there is remote dial-in option, if yes, I will participate in mid-cycle | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | If you are an author on a submission, let us know so we can search for your submissions and vote | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | I know that Sukhdev and I have submitted stuff (separately, but maybe a related topic) | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | No others? | 16:10 |
| rkukura | OK, lets move on... | 16:10 |
| rkukura | #topic Bugs/RFEs | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | I don’t think andreas is here to discuss the portbinding work today. Does anyone have anything to update on this? | 16:11 |
| yamahata | Yeah | 16:11 |
| yamahata | I created a new RFE | 16:11 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Do you have a link? | 16:12 |
| yamahata | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1609184 [RFE] ML2: Allow retry on db error by precommit | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609184 in neutron "[RFE] ML2: Allow retry on db error by precommit" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Isaku Yamahata (yamahata) | 16:12 |
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| yamahata | and I have a patch | 16:12 |
| yamahata | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350315/ ml2: allow retry on retriabable db error by precommit | 16:12 |
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| yamahata | Does RFE make sense? | 16:13 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Thanks! At a quick glance, that looks more like a bug than an RFE | 16:13 |
| rkukura | You might want to run it by armax | 16:13 |
| yamahata | bug in ml2? | 16:13 |
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| yamahata | So far I'm thinking db error in precommit is a sort of inevitable. | 16:13 |
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| armax | yamahata: you should check that with kevinbenton, I think that can be treated as a regular bug | 16:14 |
| rkukura | yamahata: Inevitable in that these can occur due to concurrency, etc? | 16:14 |
| yamahata | armax: okay | 16:14 |
| yamahata | rkukura: yes. | 16:15 |
| rkukura | agreed | 16:15 |
| rkukura | So its not really a new feature | 16:15 |
| armax | yamahata: I think that kevinbenton had a similar fix in place somewhere | 16:15 |
| yamahata | background task touches dbtables in reverse order | 16:15 |
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| armax | yamahata: but it was less invasive | 16:15 |
| yamahata | and subnet operation touches many resources in arbitrary. | 16:16 |
| yamahata | armax: will check with kevin. | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | this fix looks very straightforward | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | anything else on yamahata’s RFE/bug? | 16:19 |
| yamahata | that's it from me. | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | Or on andreas’s+others’ portbinding work? | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | How about any of the feature requests on the agenda? | 16:21 |
| rkukura | thanks yamahata and armax! | 16:21 |
| yamahata | armax: do you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332586/ ? | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | Lets move on | 16:25 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | Anything to discuss today? | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | If not, I think we are done | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | Thanks Sukhdev, yamahata, armax, and sadasu! | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | thanks rkukura | 16:27 |
| yamahata | thank you | 16:27 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-08-03-16.04.html | 16:27 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 17:00:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:00 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
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| sonuk_ | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | anyone else? | 17:02 |
| timsim | pglass rsyed | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: | 17:03 |
| timsim | elarson is off today | 17:03 |
| Kiall | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | waster | 17:03 |
| mugsie | I see jmcbride turned up :) | 17:03 |
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| timsim | lurker | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | Kiall to figure out a better BP finding command | 17:03 |
| Kiall | I've not found anything better... | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | OK, cool. we will leave it then | 17:04 |
| mugsie | mugsie bp 1687df2 Don't hardcode options we pass to oslo.context | 17:04 |
| * mugsie has a commit open right now | 17:04 | |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:04 | |
| * jmcbride lurks | 17:04 | |
| mugsie | timsim: over to you :) | 17:05 |
| timsim | I don't see any new bugs :) | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | \o/ | 17:05 |
| timsim | I think a couple got handled during the wekk | 17:05 |
| mugsie | evcerything is perfect | 17:05 |
| mugsie | apart from my typing | 17:05 |
| timsim | Then we didn't file for when I broke evrything | 17:05 |
| Kiall | mugsie: sure.. keep telling yerserlf that | 17:05 |
| timsim | So everything is awesomeeee | 17:05 |
| Kiall | yerself* | 17:05 |
| timsim | lol | 17:05 |
| mugsie | Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:06 | |
| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/547812/ | 17:06 |
| Kiall | 2 weeks of backports, to try catch everything, as usual.. nominate anything in need of BP'ing | 17:06 |
| mugsie | 372057b Fix recordset changes so that they preserve object changes fields ? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | :troll: | 17:06 |
| Kiall | lol - we'll need the revert too so ;) | 17:06 |
| timsim | hardy harr harr | 17:06 |
| mugsie | nothing else really there IHMO | 17:07 |
| Kiall | efa6d23 Change bind -> bind9 in docs, sample configs - mostly for the sample configs? | 17:07 |
| timsim | Got that new one up if you wanna go +A it :troll: | 17:07 |
| timsim | Yeah it's for stuff that ended up docs | 17:07 |
| * timsim didn't think we bp'd those | 17:07 | |
| mugsie | yeah, in the yaml. | 17:07 |
| mugsie | we generally dont | 17:07 |
| mugsie | but we can | 17:07 |
| Kiall | well, docs dont typically.. but sample configs are busted | 17:08 |
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| mugsie | yeah | 17:08 |
| mugsie | true | 17:08 |
| mugsie | OK, bp it is | 17:08 |
| mugsie | who wants to do it? | 17:08 |
| timsim | I'll do it | 17:08 |
| * Kiall just hit Ctrl+C on a deployment by mistake :'( | 17:08 | |
| mugsie | #action timsim bp efa6d23 Change bind -> bind9 in docs, sample configs | 17:08 |
| mugsie | Kiall: derp | 17:08 |
| Kiall | and it was on the final node | 17:09 |
| mugsie | ahaha | 17:09 |
| mugsie | that it? | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | yep] | 17:09 |
| timsim | `Cherry pick failed: merge conflict` balls | 17:09 |
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| mugsie | but of course | 17:09 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:09 |
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| mpbnka_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341398/ | 17:09 |
| mpbnka_ | would like you views on that | 17:10 |
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| mpbnka_ | your* | 17:10 |
| mugsie | I am kind of with timsim on this one. It might be a better custom out of tree addition | 17:10 |
| mugsie | thoughts? | 17:11 |
| mpbnka_ | no this is not ddns one | 17:11 |
| mpbnka_ | this is for tenants | 17:11 |
| Kiall | mugsie: is that thinking due to the neutron->designate integration? | 17:11 |
| mugsie | yeah. and the complexity, an the fact it can only really create "tenant_id.zone.tld" | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | and the tenant name is not in the notification | 17:11 |
| mugsie | as the* | 17:12 |
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| timsim | The proposal is basically to change the default sink handler behavior to something else, instead of having a new handler, unless i'm missing something (probable) | 17:12 |
| Kiall | mpbnka_: have you looked at / seen the designate<->neutron integrations for namings? | 17:12 |
| mpbnka_ | we have tenant id in context | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | mpbnka_: but only the ID | 17:12 |
| mugsie | mosty users will not want the ID | 17:12 |
| mugsie | they will want the name | 17:12 |
| mugsie | which we dont have | 17:12 |
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| mpbnka_ | hmm | 17:13 |
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| mpbnka_ | if tenant name is there can we have a go ahead | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | It sounds like Neutron->Designate stuff would cover this case, and be more reliable due to it's architecture, was using that ruled out? | 17:14 |
| mpbnka_ | ok | 17:14 |
| mpbnka_ | what is this Neutron->Designate stuff | 17:15 |
| Kiall | let me dig out a link | 17:15 |
| mpbnka_ | I am not sure I have gone thorugh it | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | mpbnka_: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/adv-config-dns.html | 17:16 |
| mpbnka_ | ok thanks, will go through that. | 17:16 |
| mpbnka_ | and comming back to DDNS stuff | 17:16 |
| Kiall | If that does cover the use case, great! No new code needed :) If not, can you update the spec with details of how it falls short and we can circle back to it? | 17:16 |
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| mpbnka_ | ok | 17:16 |
| mpbnka_ | for DDNS i went throug the comment. I was thinking if we can have zone sync and zone create for that how good can this be. | 17:17 |
| mugsie | can we have zone create? | 17:17 |
| mpbnka_ | but this will work for a single domain | 17:18 |
| Kiall | No - DDNS has no mechanism for creating/deleting etc zones | 17:18 |
| mpbnka_ | yeah current bp i porposed will not be having zone create | 17:18 |
| mpbnka_ | actually nsupdate | 17:18 |
| mugsie | it means that there will be only one project that can make changes to DNS entries | 17:18 |
| mpbnka_ | no | 17:19 |
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| mpbnka_ | and yes. this works with fixed domain so admin will have that access | 17:19 |
| mugsie | honestly, my rule is if the backend can pass our tempest tests, I am OK with it. if it can't I do not think it should be in the project as an offical backend | 17:19 |
| mpbnka_ | yeah I understand that | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | this backend will never be able to pass unfortunatly. | 17:20 |
| Kiall | I see value in being able to have a "ddns" pool as described there, even if it can't create / delete zones entirely by itself | 17:20 |
| mpbnka_ | :) | 17:20 |
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| mugsie | I have no issue with it being written, but as an external backend, that we can link to, but not include | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | I'm on the fence there, I think it would be a good addition that fills requests weve seen over the years if done right - even if it can't create/delete zones by itself | 17:22 |
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| mugsie | timsim: thoughts? | 17:22 |
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| timsim | I'm not opposed to it being included in tree if it's clear in docs/etc that you're going to have to do some hackiness to make it work | 17:23 |
| mugsie | i dont think it fills the requests - most DDNS requests have been "support incoming nsupdate" | 17:23 |
| Kiall | Ideally, it would be multi-zone (e.g. allow a "create zone" API call to succeed if the backend can check the zone exists on the server (SOA query? dummy create/delete record?) | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: we've had both | 17:23 |
| mugsie | buty one much more than the other. | 17:24 |
| Kiall | maybe.. hard to remember ;) | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | I think we should be drawing the line at the tempest tests, personally. as we move in OpenStack, we will be asked to define required APIs | 17:24 |
| mpbnka_ | ok let me come up with a solution, we can circle back on this. but honestly would like to have it as a backend | 17:25 |
| timsim | It does seem odd to have a backend that can't create zones. | 17:25 |
| mpbnka_ | :) | 17:25 |
| mugsie | which will be used to determine if products are "openstack" | 17:25 |
| mugsie | I would think "create zone" would be one of them | 17:25 |
| mpbnka_ | actually my implementation I am using does not create zones, I will include that | 17:25 |
| mpbnka_ | may be that helps | 17:26 |
| mugsie | mpbnka_: it can be hosted outside of the designate repo | 17:26 |
| mugsie | even if the spec does not get approved | 17:26 |
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| mpbnka_ | hmm ok | 17:26 |
| mugsie | we support external backend code, not just the backends in the repository | 17:26 |
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| mpbnka_ | yeah I know | 17:27 |
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| mugsie | OK, see if we can come up with a way to support zone create, and we can circle back | 17:28 |
| mugsie | it could be as easy as sticking a message on a queue / email / zaquar that gets an admin to create it, and bumpiong the timeouts | 17:28 |
| mpbnka_ | yeah will try to achieve that | 17:29 |
| Kiall | throwing an idea out there, since DDNS does not support zone create, something else would be "required" .. it could have a "execute this shell script/whatever on zone create/delete" option, which could be a noop, or could do something else | 17:29 |
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| Kiall | then for tempest and so on, a script can be provided to handle the out of band zone create/deletes, allowing everything to work.. But the script wouldn't be required, allowing for "We have zero control over the target nameservers"? | 17:30 |
| mpbnka_ | agreed | 17:30 |
| mugsie | OK, we have a plan | 17:30 |
| mugsie | mpbnka_: you will update the spec with ^ ? | 17:31 |
| mpbnka_ | yeah | 17:31 |
| mpbnka_ | will do that | 17:31 |
| timsim | Cool | 17:31 |
| mugsie | any other topics? | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | othe than W-Modle | 17:31 |
| mugsie | model* | 17:31 |
| timsim | lol | 17:31 |
| timsim | Still need to go and update the grenade plugin for that | 17:31 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:32 |
| mugsie | but the substantive code can be reviewed | 17:32 |
| timsim | I fixed that change that broke everything, so that's up again | 17:32 |
| timsim | Nothing else from me though :) | 17:32 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:32 |
| mugsie | we got crocodile as the logo btw | 17:32 |
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| timsim | Go Crocs | 17:33 |
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| mugsie | its prehistoric, and bites back. just like dns :) | 17:33 |
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| timsim | so fire | 17:33 |
| mugsie | anyone have anything else? | 17:34 |
| Kiall | nope, not me | 17:34 |
| mpbnka_ | I am done | 17:34 |
| mugsie | or we will call a close and give back 25 mins? | 17:34 |
| Kiall | Nah, lets keep everyone here for 25 mins. Everyone must sit in silence. | 17:35 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 17:35:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-08-03-17.00.html | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-08-03-17.00.txt | 17:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-08-03-17.00.log.html | 17:35 |
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| mugsie | jmcbride: this is how you do meetings :P | 17:35 |
| Kiall | on time start, and wrap up before the scheduled end time? | 17:35 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:36 |
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| xgerman | #startmeeting Octavia | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 19:59:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is xgerman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 19:59 |
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| xgerman | Hi all | 20:00 |
| xgerman | johnsom asked me to run the meeting today :-) | 20:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Howdy, howdy! | 20:00 |
| diltram | hey | 20:00 |
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| chenli | hi | 20:00 |
| xgerman | #chair sbalukoff | 20:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: sbalukoff xgerman | 20:00 |
| evgenyf | 0/ | 20:00 |
| Frito | hola | 20:00 |
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| sbalukoff | Uh-oh! | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | I can feeeeel the powah! | 20:01 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:01 |
| xgerman | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| xgerman | Octavia / Neutron-LBaaS mid-cycle - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/LbaasNewtonSprint | 20:01 |
| xgerman | Midcyle - yada, yada | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Please RSVP for it if you haven't already. | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Or yes, "Midcycle - yada, yada" | 20:02 |
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| TrevorV | o/ I'm late | 20:02 |
| xgerman | yep, be sure not to be vegetarian :-) | 20:02 |
| bana_k | hi | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: You know, if you don't point it out explicitly, people probably wouldn't notice. ;) | 20:03 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:03 |
| TrevorV | sbalukoff, I have a natural -v | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:03 |
| xgerman | also I am pretty sure easiness are fast approaching... | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | easiness? | 20:03 |
| * TrevorV xgerman lost me | 20:03 | |
| sbalukoff | Me too. | 20:04 |
| xgerman | sorry my keyboard hates a few characters | 20:04 |
| xgerman | deadlines | 20:04 |
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| sbalukoff | Oh! | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Yes, get your code done. | 20:04 |
| xgerman | N-3 8/29 | 20:04 |
| xgerman | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Right after the mid-cycle. | 20:05 |
| xgerman | that seems to be feature freeze as well | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. So if it doesn't get in by the end of the mid-cycle, it probably doesn't get in. Unless you're really good at bribing people to work through the weekend. | 20:05 |
| xgerman | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:06 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:06 | |
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| evgenyf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018 | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | I apologize that I had almost no time for upstream work this last week. The good news is that the internal stuff I was working on is basically done, so now I have a lot of time for upstream reviews and whatnot. | 20:06 |
| * TrevorV regrets to inform that has still been working almost entirely downstream | 20:06 | |
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| sbalukoff | So, I'll be spending a number of days working on that and hopefully getting people un-stuck. | 20:06 |
| diltram | https://review.openstack.org/345003, https://review.openstack.org/350274 - my two pachets | 20:07 |
| * xgerman has been re-orged again and is busy with containers | 20:07 | |
| evgenyf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323188 | 20:07 |
| diltram | #link https://review.openstack.org/345003 | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | diltram: Can you link those on separate lines (the way evgenyf just did)? | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:07 |
| diltram | #link https://review.openstack.org/350274 | 20:08 |
| diltram | done :) | 20:08 |
| xgerman | yeah, I am more like Review-as-a-Service, so holler if you need mt look at sth | 20:08 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: Ok, cool. | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | I'm glad you're able to still do n-lbaas / octavia reviews at all. :) | 20:08 |
| xgerman | in my copious freetime ;-) | 20:08 |
| chenli | do not have updates this week, still the same as last week... | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Parts of my team are also stuck in container hell right now. Luckily, my "evade" rolls have been excellent the last couple weeks. | 20:09 |
| chenli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342695/ | 20:09 |
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| sbalukoff | chenli: Ok, and I apologize I didn't get reviews of your code done last week. Unless I get hit by a bus, it should happen this week. | 20:09 |
| chenli | And have question about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347715/ | 20:09 |
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| perelman | hi | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | chenli: Can you ask your question during open discussion? | 20:10 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:10 |
| chenli | sbalukoff: sure | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | Any other progress reports? | 20:12 |
| xgerman | #topic Patches requiring discussion/consensus | 20:12 |
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| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325624/ (Update member status to return real statuses) [rm_work] | 20:13 |
| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325624/ | 20:13 |
| xgerman | rm_work? | 20:13 |
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| xgerman | anybody? | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Hmmm.... | 20:14 |
| xgerman | otherwise I will defer until johnsom is back ;-) | 20:14 |
| xgerman | though didn’t look offending to me | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | So, really, rm_work needs to offer input on this. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | :/ | 20:15 |
| TrevorV | Not sure where rm_work is, but maybe defer until Michael is around. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:15 |
| xgerman | ok, will defer the second rm_work topic as well | 20:15 |
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| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255963/ | 20:16 |
| xgerman | unless anybody has info... | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! | 20:16 |
| xgerman | I see sbalukoff among the reviewers... | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | I think that one was my objection. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | So, the way this patch works, there's no kind of restrictions on what the tenant can specify here. | 20:17 |
| diltram | and you're feeling that tenant will destroy something? | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | And there's no "standard way" of doing things defined. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | So, for example, if you want X-Forwarded-For inserted... | 20:18 |
| xgerman | I am always a bit worried about free-for-alls as well | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | One vendor could tell you to set the parameter to X-Forwarded-For: True | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | And other to: X-Forwarded-For: client_ip | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | Or some such nonsense. | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | This also opens up this feature to being abused by vendors to activate vendor-specific functionality through the neutron-lbaas API. | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Which breaks cloud inter-operability. | 20:19 |
| TrevorV | I recall us having this conversation a long time ago, and I thought we were going to add some defaults in with basic validation around their structure/args, and then add others if they became "normal" | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | I think we did discuss this at the January mid-cycle. But I forget what our conclusions were. | 20:19 |
| diltram | hahaha | 20:20 |
| TrevorV | Well I'm against arbitrary headers... | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | In any case, I feel bad poo-pooing the idea in this meeting if there's not anyone here to defend the way it's implemented in this patch set. | 20:20 |
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| TrevorV | Yeah, push it off for when rm_work and johnsom are here | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:20 |
| xgerman | k | 20:20 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333800/ (How to set loadbalancer_pending_timeout) [chenli] | 20:21 |
| xgerman | that’s the last one and I believe chenli is here... | 20:21 |
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| sbalukoff | Again, the major objections here were from johnsom. | 20:21 |
| chenli | This change is about try to fix the case when a loadbalancer will stay in pending status forever | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | We discussed it a little last week. I think people were supposed to comment on the patch. | 20:22 |
| chenli | :) | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | (Again, apologies I didn't end up having time for that.) | 20:22 |
| xgerman | same here | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | So, I think johnsom's objection wasn't that this is a bad idea, but I think he thought this would happen eventually anyway (like after an hour). | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | If that's not the case, then we definitely have a bug on our hands. | 20:23 |
| diltram | unfortunatelly it will not change | 20:23 |
| xgerman | I think stuff stays in pending forever | 20:23 |
| xgerman | diltram +1 | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Also, I think he didn't like it happening as part of an API get request-- that it ought to be something that happens in the house keeper or something. | 20:23 |
| xgerman | and worse you can’t delete | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, that's a problem. | 20:24 |
| diltram | because there is nothing what is checking is it updated or not and nothing what is working on this lb | 20:24 |
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| diltram | original idea was to do this on api get_loadbalancers_list | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. And I see two bugs referenced by this... so yes, this is definitely a bug | 20:24 |
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| diltram | and we proposed to do this in hk but johnsom don't want to add this code there | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | It seems "strange" to change the status of something on a get request. | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Get requests should never cause changes to the system | 20:25 |
| xgerman | yep | 20:25 |
| xgerman | I think hk is the right place as well | 20:25 |
| diltram | exactly, because of that we're still looking for some place which should be responsible for that | 20:25 |
| johnsom | I have strong feelings on this | 20:26 |
| xgerman | health might be another area | 20:26 |
| xgerman | johnsom!! | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | HK does sound like the right place for this. I don't think this should be part of a CW thread, as CW is likely to get restarted and then we've lost the ability to recover from an indefinite PENDING status. | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Oh yay! | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Ignoring a finance presentation | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:26 |
| johnsom | On mobile. | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Give us your feels! | 20:26 |
| diltram | I was talking about health and looks like good place | 20:26 |
| TrevorV | I know this is kinda odd to propose, but what if o-hk just checked for a running controller worker? | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | Then updated it to ERROR state or something | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Still doesn't fix the problem if the CW gets restarted. | 20:27 |
| johnsom | So, my issue is this should be handled in the flow/thread that was taking the action. I really don't want outside threads guessing at what is going on in other proccesses | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Also sounds unnecessarily complicated. | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | if it gets restarted it should re-establish connection, right? | 20:27 |
| diltram | but how o-hk will know that this particular lb was created when o-cw was down? | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | Oh, you mean the flow dies | 20:27 |
| TrevorV | Got it. | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I think the problem is that the flow won't always be reliable. | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Controller dies, this is why we need to enable job board | 20:28 |
| diltram | we need to implement flows checkpointing and state keepers | 20:28 |
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| sbalukoff | Right job board. | 20:28 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Right. Job board. | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | But... that's probably a lot of work. Should this bug fix wait until then? | 20:29 |
| xgerman | ok, so the flow should wait and if it doesn’t go active move it to error | 20:29 |
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| johnsom | I thought this was trying to solve our broken revert situation, not complete controller failure | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | Or rather, should we make it part of the flow, and just live with the fact that restarting CW could break things until we get job board implemented? | 20:29 |
| diltram | sbalukoff: in my opinion, yes | 20:29 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:30 |
| diltram | sbalukoff: +1 | 20:30 |
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| sbalukoff | Right. Because we expect o-cw to be pretty reliable. Certainly more so than the amphora boot process (and its bazillion dependencies) | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | I'm OK with that. What do you think, johnsom? | 20:30 |
| TrevorV | wait, now I'm confused, is the problem not "what do we do when a create_lb flow is interrupted?" | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | TrevorV: No, that's not the problem. | 20:31 |
| johnsom | I see two issues. 1 flows that don't terminate in an end state, ie active or error. This is a fix the reverts | 20:31 |
| sbalukoff | Or rather, not the problem we're trying to solve right now. | 20:31 |
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| johnsom | 2 is controller process dies, flow doesn't progress. This is where I think job board is the right answer | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | +1 on job board being the solution to problem 2. | 20:32 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, so in either case, this review is "moot"? | 20:32 |
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| chenli | can I ask, what is 'job board' ? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | I did not like the approach in this CR and wanted to discuss it with the wider team | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | So, we should fix the flow that leaves things in PENDING status indefinitely. Possibly introducing a new timeout in the process. But it won't be something that gets set on a GET, nor will it be part of HK? | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that would be fixes in the flows | 20:33 |
| johnsom | Imho | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks for your feels, johnsom. I think you are right. | 20:33 |
| TrevorV | Well, apparently it just means we need to make sure all our reverts are functional, but idk that it involves any kind of timeout | 20:33 |
| diltram | chenli: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/taskflow/persistence.html | 20:34 |
| chenli | diltram: thanks! | 20:34 |
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| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Yep. | 20:34 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, does that sound right to you as well? | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | It would be much better if the error comes as soon as possible anyway. | 20:34 |
| diltram | sbalukoff: there is create_lb_flow rewriten so it should not leave in pending create any more | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Instead of relying on a timeout. | 20:34 |
| diltram | any lb | 20:34 |
| johnsom | Thanks diltram | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, ok! | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | Cool beans. | 20:35 |
| diltram | chenli, johnsom: np | 20:35 |
| TrevorV | diltram, that's a separate review though right? Not the one we're talking about here? So maybe this review is just... "dead" (No offense) | 20:35 |
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| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Possibly, yes. | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | I haven't seen the other review yet. | 20:35 |
| diltram | TrevorV: looks like this review is dead | 20:35 |
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| TrevorV | Sorry, I just want to be clear about what's being discussed and such. | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | But yeah, setting this status on a GET is not the right way to do it in any case. | 20:36 |
| chenli | ok, I will abandon this one, for now. | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | Sorry chenli thanks for your work. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:36 |
| diltram | there is new create_lb_flow + johnsom is working on failover flow + implement job boards | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Oh! | 20:36 |
| chenli | TrevorV: thanks | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | Yeah, diltram one of those is the review you linked earlier right? I'll try and take a look later. Was concerned you merged two flows together | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. I'll look for that when it's ready, then. Is there a review number for that already? | 20:36 |
| diltram | TrevorV: yes | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Ok. | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Linked previously. | 20:37 |
| diltram | I merged them to never ever leave lb in pending_create | 20:37 |
| johnsom | Well, I have not started work on job boards, yet. I think the merge is higher priority right now | 20:37 |
| sbalukoff | Probably. o-cw doesn't die that often. | 20:37 |
| diltram | because right now if something will be broken it should revert everything | 20:37 |
| diltram | johnsom: +1 | 20:38 |
| johnsom | Yeah, diltram fixed or tech debt there. Looking forward to review it! | 20:38 |
| TrevorV | diltram, agreed, but typically we kept flows separate due to their repetitive use, that's what I was concerned about | 20:38 |
| TrevorV | Just going to read through it, could totally be a non-issue, ya know? | 20:38 |
| diltram | TrevorV: I'm reusing existing flows so no worry :) | 20:38 |
| TrevorV | Awesome awesome | 20:39 |
| diltram | it's only merge and small rebuild | 20:39 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:39 |
| johnsom | Trevorv this was a single flow that was split due to missing funct in taskflow. It was fixed, so diltram fixed the todo | 20:39 |
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| xgerman | nice | 20:40 |
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| TrevorV | Ooooh sick thanks johnsom | 20:40 |
| xgerman | thx johnsom | 20:41 |
| xgerman | #topic Open Discussion | 20:41 |
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| xgerman | looks like we might use the whole hour :-) | 20:41 |
| diltram | sometimes we need :P | 20:42 |
| chenli | one question about the update pool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1606822 | 20:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1606822 in python-neutronclient "can not update lbaas pool name" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to li,chen (chen-li) | 20:42 |
| xgerman | neutron-client is a bit tricky since I lost track what’s going on with open stack client (Bosc) | 20:42 |
| xgerman | osc | 20:42 |
| diltram | is anyone is actively testing multinode octavia installation? | 20:42 |
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| diltram | xgerman: x-client is deprecated | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | diltram: You mean, putting the controller on different hosts? | 20:43 |
| xgerman | we (=HPE) install that at our customers | 20:43 |
| diltram | sbalukoff: yes | 20:43 |
| chenli | when I update the pool name, it requests for --lb-algorithm, but Reedip said in the comments, this is requested by lb team: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347715/ | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | diltram: We've been doing a little testing of it at IBM. I expect we'll be doing a lot more testing of it in coming weeks. | 20:43 |
| chenli | yes, we're doing a full functional testing recently. | 20:44 |
| diltram | ok, great, so something is working :P | 20:44 |
| johnsom | It is not yet deprecated last I saw, but there is guidance. I think bug fixes are still ok | 20:44 |
| chenli | using CLI commands | 20:44 |
| xgerman | chenli nice!! | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | chenli: Aah-- ok, so if the lb_algorithm is set, it shouldn't be asking for it again. Especially not on an update. So yes, that's a bug. | 20:44 |
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| xgerman | I heard a rumor that neutron-client will be a plugin to osc | 20:44 |
| diltram | xgerman: really? | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Sure. But we have to work with what we have right now, yes? | 20:45 |
| chenli | xgerman: o.. then we'd better testing with osc... | 20:45 |
| johnsom | There is a parallel path for a while. We are moving to osc plugins. | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Does osc do any neutron-lbaas stuff right now? (I haven't looked in a while.) | 20:45 |
| johnsom | If you really want I can summon the neutron PTL and he will lecture you | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | :P | 20:46 |
| xgerman | the who-should-not-be-named | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | I saw him last week. He gave me the evil eye. | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | I was tickled pink. | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Sbalukoff last I looked, no | 20:46 |
| johnsom | Hahahhaa | 20:46 |
| xgerman | ok, so we should be good with that pool fix ;-) | 20:46 |
| diltram | nothing reporting greping lbaas | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Right. | 20:47 |
| johnsom | There is a spec that covers this. I don't have the link on my mobile | 20:47 |
| xgerman | k, sounds good | 20:47 |
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| diltram | or load | 20:47 |
| chenli | ok! I'll add test case for it and waiting reviews. :) | 20:47 |
| johnsom | If it is a bug, I can lobby to get it in. The deadline will be soon though | 20:47 |
| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:48 |
| xgerman | yep, ONE week before code-freeze | 20:48 |
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| xgerman | so about two weeks | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | So, two weeks-ish... | 20:48 |
| johnsom | As client freezes early each cycle | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | jinx! | 20:48 |
| chenli | Another question is about https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1607818 | 20:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1607818 in octavia "Can not get loadbalancer statistics by neutron command" [Undecided,New] | 20:48 |
| xgerman | johnsom +1 | 20:48 |
| chenli | no statistics in neutron db currently ? | 20:48 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, our statistics interface is shit. | 20:49 |
| chenli | We need statistics. It is very important. | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | I think we need to overhaul it. | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | Yep, it's essential for billing in any case. | 20:49 |
| johnsom | So, I think there is a listener vs load balancer disconnect if I remember | 20:49 |
| sbalukoff | yeah, this is something we were to hand-wavey about when we designed lbaas v2. | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Octavia we wanted listener level stats | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | And now it's biting us in the ass. | 20:50 |
| johnsom | For ssl vs non-ssl listeners if I remember right | 20:50 |
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| sbalukoff | Yes. Because billing will likely be vastly different for them. | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Can someone confirm they are diff octavia vs v2? | 20:51 |
| xgerman | Al worked on making it for listener’s in LBaaS v2 a long time ago | 20:51 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: How far did he get? | 20:51 |
| xgerman | not far… probably abondoned | 20:52 |
| chenli | Any links for previous work ? | 20:52 |
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| johnsom | Again, being on mobile is rough. | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Octavia definitely does statistics at the listener level. | 20:52 |
| johnsom | Yes | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Looking in n-lbaas real quick... | 20:52 |
| johnsom | I can't remember v2 | 20:52 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:52 |
| diltram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158823/ | 20:52 |
| diltram | abandoned | 20:53 |
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| sbalukoff | Yes, n-lbaas v2 has it at the load balancer level. | 20:53 |
| xgerman | diltram yep | 20:53 |
| johnsom | If we can pass through the query, that would be cool. Otherwise the event streamer would need to be updated to sync stats as well as status | 20:53 |
| xgerman | it was close though ;-) | 20:53 |
| johnsom | This might also be a defer to the merged api work... | 20:54 |
| xgerman | I am for passing through the query... | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | We should probably look at adding statistics at the listener level to n-lbaas as well. | 20:54 |
| chenli | so we need to add REST API in octavia ? | 20:54 |
| xgerman | +1000 | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Since it really is going to be important for billing. | 20:54 |
| xgerman | chenli +1 | 20:54 |
| xgerman | there was also a plan to stream them straight to ceilometer, etc. | 20:54 |
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| xgerman | but API is needed as well | 20:55 |
| xgerman | (hence the handwaving sbalukoff eluded to) | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | It sounds like we need to define a spec about this. | 20:55 |
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| diltram | may anyone kick that patchset - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324197/ it stuck | 20:55 |
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| johnsom | Streaming to celio is a whole different conversation | 20:55 |
| sbalukoff | Because I want to make sure people have a chance to give feedback on the nature of this feature. :/ | 20:55 |
| diltram | maybe at first we will grab that data | 20:56 |
| johnsom | +1 | 20:56 |
| xgerman | there even was a spec for streaming straight from amps on ceilometer side (also abandoned) | 20:56 |
| diltram | after that we can think about in which way to share them | 20:56 |
| xgerman | diktram +! | 20:56 |
| xgerman | I like your pragmatism | 20:56 |
| diltram | thx ;) | 20:56 |
| johnsom | We do collect it in octavia | 20:56 |
| chenli | y, I see octavia database updated by o-hm | 20:57 |
| xgerman | well, there was talk that this would not scale | 20:57 |
| xgerman | but let’s run with that ;-) | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:57 |
| xgerman | I doubt mysql can go beyond 10,000 LBs | 20:58 |
| johnsom | That is why stats have their own db setup. But this is yet another different issue | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | Indeed. | 20:58 |
| xgerman | ok, enough bike shedding | 20:58 |
| xgerman | T-2 | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | What, we have a whole minute left! | 20:58 |
| chenli | ok. so first we need to add a REST API to feed neutron-server the statistics | 20:59 |
| xgerman | in case we have a “serious: topic | 20:59 |
| chenli | I will try to working on that :) | 20:59 |
| xgerman | chenli +1 | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks, chenli! | 20:59 |
| chenli | because this is really important to us. | 20:59 |
| xgerman | and very first we need a spec ;-) | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Yes, please spec this out! | 20:59 |
| chenli | sure! | 20:59 |
| johnsom | So, original was about exposing the stats. Look at the octavia api spec and implement what was approved | 20:59 |
| xgerman | chenli underatood — but I wouldn’t be surprised if it misses N | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Yes! | 20:59 |
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| sbalukoff | It's OK so long as it makes it into master. | 21:00 |
| diltram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324197/ | 21:00 |
| sbalukoff | Anyway, thanks folks! | 21:00 |
| diltram | again please some core to kick in ass that patchset | 21:00 |
| sbalukoff | diltram: Ok! | 21:00 |
| diltram | thx and cu | 21:00 |
| xgerman | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| diltram | sbalukoff: :) | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 21:00:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-08-03-19.59.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-08-03-19.59.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-08-03-19.59.log.html | 21:00 |
| xgerman | thanks guys!!! | 21:01 |
| xgerman | glad johnsom is back next week ;-) | 21:01 |
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