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| Ablu | Hi | 14:02 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:25 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 14:25:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:25 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:25 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:25 |
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| Ablu | \o/ | 14:26 |
| pt_15 | o/ | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni | hi Ablu, pt_15 | 14:26 |
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| devkulkarni | I don't have set agenda for today | 14:26 |
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| devkulkarni | we can keep open discussion | 14:26 |
| Ablu | I could give a short status update about my work... | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni | yes, that would be great | 14:27 |
| Ablu | I can now clone git repos, transfer them into vms and run arbitrary commands on them | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni | nice !! | 14:28 |
| Ablu | in theory I could also collect build result files from the result image, but that part is broken in packer at the moment apparently (a bug is filed already) | 14:28 |
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| Ablu | So right now I am trying to understand the deploy logic | 14:28 |
| Ablu | and try to make a plan how I can deploy my vm images | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni | how did you get around the issue of volume mounting not supported in packer? | 14:28 |
| devkulkarni | I see | 14:28 |
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| Ablu | devkulkarni: i realized packer allows to transfer/download files via sftp | 14:28 |
| Ablu | ehm | 14:28 |
| Ablu | scp | 14:28 |
| Ablu | so I used that | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 14:29 |
| Ablu | should be more flexible than volumes anyway :) | 14:29 |
| Ablu | well I need to make sure the directory is cleaned maybe, but that should be doable | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | sure | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | how are you setting up your services to start up when the vm is deployed? | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni | rather, when the vm will be eventually deployed? | 14:30 |
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| Ablu | devkulkarni: well I do not at the moment since I have no deployment done yet | 14:30 |
| Ablu | But at the moment my plan would be to run the run_command using cloud-init | 14:30 |
| zhurong | devkulkarni Ablu pt_15 hi | 14:30 |
| Ablu | zhurong: hi | 14:30 |
| devkulkarni | hi zhurong | 14:30 |
| pt_15 | hi zhurong! | 14:31 |
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| zhurong | pt_15 I checked your patch | 14:31 |
| devkulkarni | ok, that makes sense | 14:31 |
| Ablu | but well... still not sure about the deployment. I still did not manage to wrap my head around the heat invoking code there | 14:31 |
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| pt_15 | zhurong: oh great! :) | 14:31 |
| pt_15 | zhurong: did you encounter any errors in it? | 14:31 |
| zhurong | pt_15 the second have the error | 14:32 |
| devkulkarni | Ablu: I can tell you how to do that.. it is straight forward | 14:32 |
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| pt_15 | zhurong: ok, what error did you come across? and this is in the lp show patch right? | 14:32 |
| Ablu | also I started to write a bit about my development plans in my paper itself. I guess once you are back next week we should discuss further steps :) | 14:32 |
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| zhurong | pt_15 I have no time to find out the reason, you can see the patch, I add the comment | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni | Ablu: yes, lets do that.. I should be able to find some time before next week .. I will ping you | 14:33 |
| pt_15 | zhurong: sure! thanks for testing it out! :) | 14:34 |
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| devkulkarni | thanks zhurong and Ablu for helping pt_15 | 14:34 |
| zhurong | pt_15 lp show is normal, the detail patch can not work correctly. | 14:34 |
| Ablu | devkulkarni: hm. ok. This week is relatively busy for me though... I will get my wisdom teeth removed tomorrow. And still need to do a bit of home office for work. So not sure if I get any time before the weekend | 14:35 |
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| pt_15 | zhurong: hmm, ok, I'll try and work out the problem. | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni | Ablu: ok, I may also not have much time | 14:36 |
| zhurong | pt_15 come on :) | 14:36 |
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| pt_15 | And as devkulkarni said, thanks a lot for helping Ablu and zhurong! :D | 14:36 |
| zhurong | pt_15 your are welcome :) | 14:37 |
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| Ablu | you are welcome :P Though you always managed to catch me during times where I was busy... So I could not help a lot I fear | 14:37 |
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| pt_15 | Ablu: you still did manage to help quite a bit actually! :D | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15: have you managed to get a working environment? | 14:38 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni: no, not yet, got the same problem with devstack again, so i'm trying out vagrant now | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni | ok | 14:39 |
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| Ablu | pt_15: well. As I said. The vagrant setup by default does a port forwarding from your host to the vm. So to access port 80 of the vm access port 8080 of your host | 14:40 |
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| devkulkarni | that is correct.. once stack.sh completes, it prints the URL of dashboard | 14:41 |
| devkulkarni | horizon | 14:41 |
| pt_15 | Yeah, I had tried opening that URL from my host machine, but didn't work | 14:42 |
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| devkulkarni | what error did you get? | 14:42 |
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| pt_15 | On opening the URL, just got the error server not found | 14:44 |
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| pt_15 | Am now rerunning stack.sh on the VM, and will then try opening local host on my host | 14:44 |
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| devkulkarni | anything else any of you want to discuss today? | 14:47 |
| Ablu | not me :) | 14:47 |
| devkulkarni | pt_15: how about you? | 14:48 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni: nope! | 14:48 |
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| devkulkarni | alright | 14:49 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 14:49:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-07-13-14.25.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-07-13-14.25.txt | 14:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-07-13-14.25.log.html | 14:49 |
| Ablu | devkulkarni: thanks for hosting | 14:49 |
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| rkukura | Hi ML2’ers! | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev_ | hello | 16:01 |
| andreas_s_ | hi | 16:02 |
| rkukura | who else is here for ML2 today? | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: here for ML2? | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | well, lets proceed… | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 16:04:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_July_13.2C_2016 | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | Thanks Sukhdev_ for putting together a quick agenda this morning | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev_ | no problem | 16:05 |
| rkukura | feel free to speek up if anyone wants to add/skip anything | 16:06 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | Barcelona summit proposal deadline is 11:59 PM Pacific time tonight | 16:06 |
| rkukura | I’ve got one in the works related to ML2 | 16:07 |
| rkukura | anyone know of others? | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Neutron-2 milestone is planned for this week | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Newton-2 I meant | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | I have one - but, not related to Ml2 | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev_: I’ll look for it | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | Neutron mid-cycle is August 17-19 in Cork, Ireland | 16:09 |
| rkukura | any other announcements? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev_ | none from me | 16:10 |
| rkukura | #topic Bugs/RFEs | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | andreas_s_: Is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309416/ the main thing to be reviewing right now regarding distributed port bindings? | 16:10 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, right some input would be helpful | 16:11 |
| andreas_s_ | last week another idea came up | 16:11 |
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| andreas_s_ | it's listed in the alternatives section | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev_ | It is on my list to review - | 16:12 |
| andreas_s_ | basically the problems with migraiton could be solved, when nova would do portbinding in pre_live_migraiton | 16:12 |
| andreas_s_ | but as we discussed a couple of weeks ago, this conflicts especially with ToR drviers | 16:12 |
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| andreas_s_ | so the idea is that Neutron could provide an API that returns, if the current configuration can support a binding in pre_live_migration | 16:13 |
| andreas_s_ | neutron requires a whitelist of mech drivers combinations that are supported... | 16:13 |
| andreas_s_ | for all other, the classical flow like today would be processed | 16:13 |
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| andreas_s_ | no distributed binding | 16:14 |
| andreas_s_ | at all | 16:14 |
| rkukura | not sure I like the sound of that, but would need to think about it | 16:14 |
| rkukura | would this whitelist be configured? | 16:14 |
| andreas_s_ | it would not solve all the issues, that's right | 16:14 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, no, hardcoded | 16:14 |
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| rkukura | really don’t like the sound of that | 16:14 |
| rkukura | which of the 4 alternatives is this? | 16:14 |
| andreas_s_ | the first I guess | 16:14 |
| andreas_s_ | yup | 16:15 |
| andreas_s_ | anyhow - I have another more important questions to you guys | 16:15 |
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| andreas_s_ | how would multiple compute bindings play together with l2pop? | 16:15 |
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| andreas_s_ | I'm not an l2pop expert - but if I got it right, they are adding forwarding rules like - mac1 via vxlan-abc | 16:16 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: thats a really goood question | 16:16 |
| andreas_s_ | but with distributed compute ports, mac1 might be reachable via vxlan-abc and vxlan-def | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | The use cases I’ve thought about were mainly for service ports like DHCP, where there is a notion of locality or closeness | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s_ : This will impact L2GW and its interworkings with DVR | 16:17 |
| rkukura | For the VM migration use case, I guess there would need to be an explicit cutover that would update l2pop | 16:17 |
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| andreas_s_ | Sukhdev_, oh ok, haven't thought about L2GW yet... | 16:18 |
| andreas_s_ | so we agree there is an issue, right? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev_ | L2GW uses l2pop to add those bindings when vteps are created and macs are leared | 16:19 |
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| andreas_s_ | so probably we need some indicator, that the current binding is a migration port and therefore processed slightly different | 16:20 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: I guess I’m getting convinced there may not be a single notion of “distributed port binding” that handles the different use cases | 16:20 |
| rkukura | So maybe the right approach is to generalize the DB layer and maybe the binding code, but have specific API actions for things like migration | 16:21 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, specific api layers are planned anyhow | 16:21 |
| andreas_s_ | I mean rest apis | 16:22 |
| rkukura | right | 16:22 |
| andreas_s_ | but probably some additional ifs in the binding code are required | 16:23 |
| andreas_s_ | or maybe it' sufficient to do something in l2pop mech driver | 16:23 |
| rkukura | Maybe we need to kind of separate establishing the binding, which can be generic, from activating the binding | 16:23 |
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| andreas_s_ | yes | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | So in the DVR use case or maybe a distributed DHCP use case, multiple bindings would be simultaneiously active, whereas in migration and maybe HA use cases, only one would be active at a time | 16:24 |
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| andreas_s_ | the mech_drivers have post_commit and pre_commit methods | 16:25 |
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| andreas_s_ | l2pop fires all its rpc notifications in post_commit | 16:26 |
| andreas_s_ | either those 2 methods already offer some kind of separation, or we need to establish a new mech_driver interface :/ | 16:26 |
| andreas_s_ | something else of interest: I merged both portbindings tables: https://review.openstack.org/340410 | 16:27 |
| andreas_s_ | it's just a few functional tests I've missed | 16:27 |
| andreas_s_ | logic is still the same, but data is stored in same table | 16:27 |
| rkukura | just thinking out load here, but why not just add an ‘active’ flag to the (per-host) port bindings table, and have l2pop only fire off notications for binding/hosts that are active? | 16:27 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, that was my thought as well | 16:27 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, or have a binding type field that can be 'distributed', 'normal', and 'distributed-inactive' or whatever | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | We maybe need to extend PortConext, but I don’t see a need to add new MD methods normally | 16:28 |
| rkukura | possibly | 16:28 |
| andreas_s_ | let me think about this tomorrow a bit | 16:29 |
| andreas_s_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340031 | 16:29 |
| rkukura | I am really sorry I have not been keeping up with these reviews day-to-day - I will try harder | 16:29 |
| andreas_s_ | this is a patch of anils patch series | 16:29 |
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| andreas_s_ | he now plans to use both, the vif_type of distributed binding table to store the actual vif_type, and the vif_type of the normal binding table that stores 'distributed' for a distributed port | 16:30 |
| andreas_s_ | so he plans to finally change identification of a distributed port from dev_owner to this vif_type in portbindings db | 16:31 |
| andreas_s_ | I want to say 2 things | 16:31 |
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| andreas_s_ | first, he plans to introduce some "typing" that might be helpful for our case as well | 16:31 |
| andreas_s_ | second, I'm not very happy in the way he's doing it - maybe you guys have an opinion | 16:32 |
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| rkukura | If he used the name binding_type instead of vif_type for this, would that be better? | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : good thinking | 16:33 |
| andreas_s_ | my point is, that this patch is reusing the existing vif_type in portbindings table for that, but the actual value of the vif_type (e.g. ovs) is still stored in the distributed table | 16:34 |
| andreas_s_ | if we go that way, we cannot merge the tables in the future | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | I have not looked closely enough at this patch to see if that makes any sense, but I am wondering if this serves a similar purpose to the active flag or binding type we were discussing above | 16:34 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, the problem is, that there is no easy way to figure out if a binding is distributed or not with router ha ports | 16:35 |
| andreas_s_ | this always requires a complex db query | 16:35 |
| rkukura | have you expressed this in review comments? | 16:36 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, yup | 16:36 |
| andreas_s_ | there's a lenghty discussion on this :) | 16:36 |
| andreas_s_ | So if you find some time it would be great to get some external feedback on this patch | 16:36 |
| rkukura | I need to set aside a couple hours ASAP to read through these reviews | 16:36 |
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| andreas_s_ | so bottom line: The approach makese sense for the scope of this patch IMO, but not when having the greater picture in mind. But I might be wrong | 16:37 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: I really appreciate you brinding this all up here - that’s what these meetings are for. I wish anil or someone else involved in that effort could also attend | 16:38 |
| andreas_s_ | I could also build my stuff on those patches - but I feel it's not a good design - especially if we want to get rid of one of the bindings tables one day | 16:38 |
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| andreas_s_ | yeah let's organize that for next week | 16:39 |
| rkukura | anything else on distirbuted bindings right now? | 16:39 |
| andreas_s_ | no | 16:39 |
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| andreas_s_ | it's also pretty late for him I guess | 16:40 |
| rkukura | should we try to schedule a special-purpose meeting at a different time? | 16:41 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, that might be helpful - but maybe you could have a look at those patches first - maybe all makes sense and there's no need for it anymore ;) | 16:41 |
| rkukura | wishfull thinking ;) | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | I’m in San Jose this week and schedule is pretty tight, but I’ll try to block of some time to do that | 16:42 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, that would be great! | 16:43 |
| rkukura | OK, lets touch base on IRC in a day or two and see if we want to schedule a meeting | 16:43 |
| andreas_s_ | perfect. I'll spend some thoughts on the l2pop thing, and how we could reuse anils patch for that | 16:44 |
| rkukura | lets move on to the other feature requests on the agenda | 16:44 |
| rkukura | does anyone want to discuss any of these today? | 16:44 |
| andreas_s_ | yup, sorry for consuming all your meeting time... | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev_ | andreas_s_ : it was a useful time - so, no worries | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev_ | rkukura : I do not have any comments on the other features - | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev_ | so, if the other gang is not here, we can skip | 16:45 |
| rkukura | ok | 16:45 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | anything else to discuss? | 16:45 |
| andreas_s_ | no | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | none from me | 16:46 |
| rkukura | ok, lets wrap up early then… | 16:46 |
| rkukura | thanks Sukhdev_ and andreas_s_! | 16:46 |
| andreas_s_ | thank you guys! | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | thanks | 16:46 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| rkukura | bye | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev_ | bye | 16:46 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 16:46:45 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-07-13-16.04.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-07-13-16.04.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-07-13-16.04.log.html | 16:46 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 18:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
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| mvandijk | ./ | 18:00 |
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| aliadil | ./ | 18:01 |
| amrith | hi matt | 18:01 |
| schang | o/ | 18:01 |
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| amrith | hi ali, simon | 18:01 |
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| amrith | lets give folks a couple of minutes to trickle in | 18:01 |
| peterstac | o/ | 18:01 |
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| amrith | hi peter | 18:02 |
| johnma | hello | 18:02 |
| amrith | let's get started | 18:03 |
| amrith | hi mariam | 18:03 |
| johnma | hi amrith | 18:03 |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:03 |
| pmalik | 😝/ | 18:03 |
| amrith | #topic Action items from last week's meeting | 18:03 |
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| amrith | all three of them are for me, I've started on them but have not been able to finish them | 18:03 |
| amrith | will get them done by next week | 18:04 |
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| amrith | hi pmalik | 18:04 |
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| amrith | as for the redis scenario tests, they seem to fail sporadically | 18:04 |
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| amrith | could not find a specific pattern. | 18:04 |
| amrith | so: | 18:04 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] review logstash to see how the redis scenario tests perform | 18:04 |
| amrith | as for 237710, I think a reasoable solution has been proposed | 18:04 |
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| amrith | SlickNik, are you around | 18:05 |
| amrith | would you be able to take a look at it | 18:05 |
| pmalik | amrith I don't remember seeing redis failing. :/ | 18:05 |
| amrith | #action merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237710/ | 18:05 |
| amrith | pmalik, that's why I still have this on my list | 18:05 |
| peterstac | yeah, I thought that redis was fairly stable - do you have a link for that? | 18:05 |
| amrith | I will get more details before next week | 18:06 |
| amrith | peterstac, it is a logstash query | 18:06 |
| amrith | have to figure out how to get you a link for that | 18:06 |
| amrith | hence the 'next week' | 18:06 |
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| amrith | finally, I sent a question to infra about the machines; have to follow up and get details | 18:06 |
| amrith | so | 18:06 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] review what kind(s) of machines we get in the gate and see if we can get some more beefy horses ... | 18:06 |
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| amrith | peterstac, pmalik I'll get details about redis to you | 18:07 |
| peterstac | ok, thx | 18:07 |
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| amrith | or go to logstash, it is not the easiest interface but you get used to it | 18:07 |
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| amrith | and if you want you can take the action item :) | 18:07 |
| amrith | I won't resist | 18:07 |
| peterstac | do you have a link to the changeset where redis was failing? | 18:08 |
| amrith | not handy now | 18:08 |
| peterstac | ok, I'll follow up with you (I can take that action if you like ;) ) | 18:08 |
| amrith | OK, moving along then | 18:09 |
| amrith | #topic Trove pulse update | 18:09 |
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| amrith | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:09 |
| amrith | #link https://gist.github.com/amrith/0a1acb6de826d6ca2b21b92323bd7db9 | 18:09 |
| amrith | I think last week was a little light on reviews, have to (and I have to as well) pick up the pace a bit | 18:10 |
| amrith | the backlog is building | 18:10 |
| amrith | peterstac, I spoke briefly with pmackinn this morning | 18:10 |
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| amrith | he has pushed up a new change set for the trove-integration fedora/centos elements | 18:10 |
| amrith | you'd asked some quesitons about that if I recall correctly | 18:11 |
| amrith | or maybe it was someone else | 18:11 |
| peterstac | I had some questions, but they were minor | 18:11 |
| amrith | fyi: there are a lot of changes currently waiting for submitter | 18:11 |
| amrith | so if you have reviews out there please take a look and make sure that they are not in need of tlc | 18:11 |
| amrith | any questions, thoughts, comments ... | 18:12 |
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| amrith | ok ... | 18:12 |
| amrith | #topic Call for topics for mid-cycle | 18:13 |
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| amrith | recall that this is a virtual mid-cycle | 18:13 |
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| amrith | thanks johnma for the topic re: tempest | 18:13 |
| johnma | np | 18:13 |
| amrith | I want to also add a couple of more to that list, but wanted to quickly start the conversation here. | 18:13 |
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| amrith | topic #1 the first was around grenade testing | 18:15 |
| amrith | has anyone taken a look at this recently? | 18:15 |
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| amrith | topic #2 do we have any straggler oslo-incubator code hanging around in trove? | 18:16 |
| amrith | and can we get a plan together to get rid of it | 18:16 |
| amrith | does anyone have any thoughts about these? | 18:17 |
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| amrith | I've just added them to the agenda now | 18:17 |
| amrith | anyone have anything else to add? | 18:18 |
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| amrith | also re: midcycle, I've contacted masaki and kengo (they came to the mid-cycle in Raleigh) and asked if they had any topics they'd like discussed at the mid-cycle. we may have to pick some sessions at a time that work for them. | 18:19 |
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| amrith | is there anybody out there? | 18:20 |
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| trevormc | hi amrith :) | 18:20 |
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| amrith | hi trevormc ... looks like everyone else left. | 18:20 |
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| trevormc | Sorry for being late, I just got back from a town hall with John Donovan. | 18:21 |
| amrith | hi george | 18:21 |
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| amrith | well mvandijk schang aliadil peterstac johnma trevormc pmalik ... is there anything else to add? are we done here? | 18:22 |
| amrith | well, I guess not. | 18:23 |
| johnma | amrith: I am wondering whether we want to also include status of python 3.4 work | 18:23 |
| peterstac | I'll give it some thought | 18:23 |
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| peterstac | johnma, that's probably a good one. It looks to me as if switching the tests to run in parallel doesn't work so well for 3.4 | 18:24 |
| peterstac | Might be worth a discussion | 18:24 |
| amrith | ok, would one of you add it to the list then plz | 18:25 |
| johnma | sure | 18:26 |
| amrith | Anything else re: mid cycle or should we move along | 18:26 |
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| amrith | OK, if there's nothing else, we should likely just move to open discussion | 18:28 |
| amrith | #topic open discussion | 18:29 |
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| pmalik | 😶/ | 18:29 |
| pmalik | Just wanted to draw attention to this because it has been breaking our (non-voting) | 18:29 |
| pmalik | tests. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | Change I65e8a8d5dc251a8b00529cdfb1a6ada3d5720f68 has switched from MySQL-python to PyMySQL. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | This change surfaced an issue in the current implementation of configuration groups. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | The issue occurs on configuration detach and is currently reproduced in MySQL scenario tests | 18:29 |
| pmalik | (old API tests only detach non-dynamic configuration and hence don't uncover the issue). | 18:29 |
| pmalik | This happens because we convert all template values get converted to strings. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | MySQL does not accept string values for numeric variables. The old | 18:29 |
| pmalik | client library had a way around it. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | I pushed up a patch set to the ini codec to preserve types. | 18:29 |
| pmalik | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338662/ | 18:29 |
| johnma | will look at it pmalik | 18:30 |
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| trevormc | Hey that's cool, I'll look at it later :) What was the client library way around it? | 18:31 |
| peterstac | pmalik, I'll take a look as well | 18:32 |
| pmalik | I guess they just converted the types at runtime (I verified the issue goes away when the change is reverted). | 18:32 |
| amrith | cool, anything else ... | 18:33 |
| johnma | amrith: is the spec approval deadline tomorrow? | 18:33 |
| amrith | I'll let y'all read through the agenda thing about the mascot | 18:33 |
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| amrith | and the spec approval deadline | 18:33 |
| johnma | right | 18:33 |
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| amrith | if there are specs that need to be approved; let's get that done | 18:33 |
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| peterstac | I put 4 links in the agenda | 18:34 |
| peterstac | not to say that those are the only specs that people want in ... | 18:34 |
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| peterstac | maybe others can add to that if they still have ones outstanding they'd like to see make it into newton | 18:34 |
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| trevormc | I really like how openstack is making all projects have mascots. Great discussions take place on that topic. | 18:35 |
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| amrith | johnma, any specs to add to the list that peterstac put in the agenda? | 18:35 |
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| johnma | mine is in that list. so I think I am good from that perspective. Apart from that, I would like to help complete the one related to CouchDB configuration groups | 18:37 |
| johnma | but that spec is already approved | 18:37 |
| peterstac | Also, I added a couple links to reviews I'd like to see go in this week (they're from the last set, but didn't make it due to forced rebases) | 18:37 |
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| johnma | will go through them peterstac | 18:37 |
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| peterstac | johnma, great, thx! | 18:38 |
| amrith | anybody have ideas about the mascot ... | 18:38 |
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| trevormc | I was going to add an idea to the etherpad for next week | 18:38 |
| amrith | ok, we'll take a vote next week and send in the top 3 or so to the foundation. | 18:39 |
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| amrith | anyone have other things to discuss | 18:39 |
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| amrith | ... | 18:40 |
| peterstac | we've been talking about some ideas in our office - if we come up with anything concrete we'll post it on the wiki :) | 18:40 |
| trevormc | I had a question about the config option for a list of udp and tcp ports we use for our datastores. | 18:40 |
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| trevormc | Take a look at this patch I uploaded to oslo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339787/ | 18:40 |
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| amrith | thx peterstac | 18:41 |
| trevormc | I got a review to suggest about separating port ranges with '..' instead of '-' is there a preference? | 18:41 |
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| amrith | trevormc, the general convetion has been either '-' or ':' for a range of ports. never seen '..'. | 18:43 |
| amrith | iptables uses a list delimited by ',' where each element is either an integer or a range, and a range is integer:bigger-integer | 18:44 |
| trevormc | amrith, the '..' is based on the python convention in lists already. Ok, I just want to make sure what I submit to oslo can still be used to fix improve port option validation. | 18:44 |
| amrith | ok | 18:45 |
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| amrith | anyone want to discuss anything else (either on the agenda or otherwise) ... speak now. | 18:45 |
| amrith | or till next week ... | 18:46 |
| peterstac | I don't have anything else . | 18:46 |
| amrith | going once | 18:46 |
| amrith | has everyone got their summit talks in? | 18:46 |
| amrith | deadline is today, yes? | 18:46 |
| peterstac | I believe so, yes | 18:47 |
| johnma | yes that deadline is tonight | 18:47 |
| amrith | "The Call for Presentations deadline is July 13 at 11:59pm PT / July 14 6:59 UTC." | 18:47 |
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| amrith | So you have about 12 hours. | 18:47 |
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| amrith | ok, going twice ... | 18:48 |
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| amrith | please review/approve all specs by end of week. that's the deadline. | 18:48 |
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| amrith | #endmeeting | 18:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 18:48:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:48 |
| johnma | thanks Amrith | 18:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-07-13-18.00.html | 18:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-07-13-18.00.txt | 18:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-07-13-18.00.log.html | 18:48 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 13 20:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| Frito | Hello my fellow Octavia compatriots. | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Hello! | 20:00 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi there | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
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| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| bana_k | Hi ! | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Just a reminder about the up coming mid-cycle | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/LbaasNewtonSprint | 20:01 |
| johnsom | this is a wiki that Cody setup and links to the etherpad | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Handy! | 20:01 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:01 |
| rm_work | oh hey sbalukoff is alive! | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Please make sure your name is on there as he wants a list to give security. I think we may have to use rooms in the inner area this time. | 20:02 |
| rm_work | I was worried T_T | 20:02 |
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| sbalukoff | barely-- Been sick since coming back from vacation. I hate airports. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I was wondering about sbalukoff myself. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | +1 on hating airports | 20:02 |
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| rm_work | sbalukoff: don't worry, we've got a huge stack of reviews for you to +A, that's nearly as good as chicken soup | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Hahaha! | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, I'll spend time tomorrow and Friday going through them. :) | 20:03 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:03 |
| rm_work | with johnsom at RAX, our multi-company cores pool is somewhat limited T_T | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | And hopefully later today, too. | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah. | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Apologies for being unavailable, eh! | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Also, there is a movement afoot to pick mascots. We aren't technically our own project yet, but I was thinking we should submit/reserve something anyway. | 20:03 |
| rm_work | sbalukoff: seriously though, for octavia there's a ton ready to go, same in neutron-lbaas | 20:03 |
| rm_work | MORE in neutron-lbaas actually | 20:03 |
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| sbalukoff | In other news, travel to the mid-cycle was finally approved for me, so I'll definitely be there. :D | 20:03 |
| johnsom | #link http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots | 20:04 |
| rm_work | lol, looks like dougwig might be getting to them first | 20:04 |
| johnsom | So, there is that. If you have mascot ideas, let me know and I will send in a list and see what they say. | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Hmmm... any suggestions for ancient Roman animals? | 20:05 |
| Frito | goats! | 20:05 |
| fnaval | cortex! | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Maybe a horse pulling a chariot? | 20:05 |
| fnaval | nm | 20:05 |
| rm_work | lol gotta keep it simple and rounded | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | Blah. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Oye | 20:05 |
| TrevorV | wolves, bears, wild boar, deer, and goats were native to Rome | 20:05 |
| Frito | goats are rounded depending on the angle you look at them at | 20:06 |
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| rm_work | :P | 20:06 |
| dougwig | venus, with an amphora between her... | 20:06 |
| fnaval | chinchilla | 20:06 |
| dougwig | hands. i meant hands. perverts. | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:06 |
| rm_work | dougwig: not sure whether to -2 or +2 | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | I say lion. http://www.explore-italian-culture.com/images/ancient-roman-lion-mosaic.jpg | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Oh dougwig.... | 20:06 |
| johnsom | Though, I like the idea... | 20:06 |
| rm_work | I mean | 20:07 |
| rm_work | I like the idea of just *an amphora* | 20:07 |
| rm_work | or some amphorae | 20:07 |
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| johnsom | Maybe we should start a e-mail chain so we can get a list to vote on | 20:07 |
| rm_work | maybe a group of like 3 amphorae, one in front and two offset behind? | 20:07 |
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| sbalukoff | Yeah, I could get behind an amphora. | 20:07 |
| TrevorV | rm_work, yeah! Then a big ball rolling towards them! We invented BOWLING!!!!!!! | 20:07 |
| rm_work | illustrates the HA concept | 20:07 |
| fnaval | atlas | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Woot! | 20:07 |
| fnaval | the god | 20:07 |
| rm_work | TrevorV: yes exactly like bowling pin layout, but just 3 of them and no ball thx :P | 20:08 |
| fnaval | http://www.greekmythology.com/images/mythology/atlas_29.jpg | 20:08 |
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| rm_work | yeah except atlas isn't our thing anymore T_T | 20:08 |
| rm_work | and complex stuff like people don't work well in the logo style :( | 20:08 |
| TrevorV | atlas holding... an amphora?! | 20:08 |
| fnaval | its our inside joke | 20:08 |
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| TrevorV | What about a scale with amphora on it? | 20:08 |
| * johnsom thinks he should have left this to the end.... | 20:08 | |
| TrevorV | amphorae*** | 20:08 |
| TrevorV | johnsom, you right. | 20:08 |
| rm_work | oh hey yeah | 20:09 |
| TrevorV | With how much we like painting around here ;) | 20:09 |
| Frito | so next topic? | 20:09 |
| rm_work | scales with amps on them would work | 20:09 |
| rm_work | but just amps might be simpler | 20:09 |
| fnaval | https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7588/1766/1600/lady%20justice.jpg | 20:09 |
| rm_work | TrevorV: mockup time ;P | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Please read the guidelines btw, I don't think amphora is allowed. | 20:09 |
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| sbalukoff | Octavia is a woman's name... so maybe a Roman woman carrying an amphora? | 20:09 |
| diltram | hey | 20:09 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:09 | |
| TrevorV | Oh, are we sure someone isn't going to give it to their design team and steal my thunder again?!?! | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Ok, moving on. Send ideas to ML if you want | 20:10 |
| TrevorV | specifically sbalukoff could you review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339808/ | 20:10 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339808/ | 20:10 |
| Frito | mostly internal stuff. Got a tox testing funkyness thing merged :-D | 20:10 |
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| sbalukoff | TrevorV: Sure. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | So, as was mentioned earlier, we have a ton of reviews to do. I tried to hit some yesterday and today. | 20:10 |
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| TrevorV | sbalukoff, its a very small change, but it changes l7 policy behavior | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Aah, ok. | 20:10 |
| TrevorV | I figure we can discuss in the review | 20:10 |
| fnaval | my update: thanks for all the reviews - will try get to them this week! | 20:10 |
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| johnsom | sbalukoff I really wanted your eyes on that one too | 20:11 |
| eezhova | I'd like to ask to review the functional job for lbaas, it doesn't get much attention | 20:11 |
| eezhova | #link https://review.openstack.org/320999 | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | I'll be spending the remainder of the week (when I'm not loopy from the dayquil) doing upstream reviews. | 20:11 |
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| perelman | hi | 20:11 |
| TrevorV | good luck feeling better sbalukoff | 20:11 |
| eezhova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337650/ | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I have been working on the failover issues. Nova had a regression introduced on the 29th that I worked with them on yesterday. Patches are up if not merged now. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1602357 | 20:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova is not marking virtual interfaces as deleted in db on instance delete" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 20:11 |
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| eezhova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338757/ | 20:12 |
| rm_work | IPv6 VIPs are a thing now: https://review.openstack.org/339826 | 20:13 |
| rm_work | #link https://review.openstack.org/339826 | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | Woot! | 20:13 |
| johnsom | dougwig ^^ eezhova 's patch is a stable backport | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | I'm happy to see us entering the 21st century. | 20:13 |
| rm_work | sbalukoff: yes, when fixing that code I was careful to have ipv6 be the DEFAULT and ipv4 the fallback :P | 20:13 |
| rm_work | functionally irrelevant but it makes me feel better | 20:14 |
| dougwig | just claw back IBM's class As and ipv6 can wait another 10 years | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:14 |
| johnsom | or HP's for that matter | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:14 |
| haleyb | hey, i heard that :) We love our two /8's | 20:15 |
| johnsom | But, that said, IPv6 is goodness | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Ok, any other progress updates to discuss? | 20:16 |
| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/332704 https://review.openstack.org/340124 both havr two +2s and no +A | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | I'll put that on my list. | 20:16 |
| rm_work | dougwig: need your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317692/ updated maybe? | 20:17 |
| perelman | i have uploaded another set of changes for Active-Active tpology to octavia | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:17 |
| perelman | we are trying to finish uploading full version till the midcycle | 20:17 |
| dougwig | rm_work: is scenario passing now? yes, ok, will do | 20:17 |
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| perelman | so hopefully could introduce it in San antonio :) | 20:17 |
| rm_work | perelman: are those ready for review? | 20:17 |
| eezhova | One more patch adding docstrings with one +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336480/ | 20:18 |
| rm_work | perelman: i have been avoiding them (and I guess probably many others have as well?) because they are WIP and all of the tests are failing | 20:18 |
| perelman | they still dont pass some tests on gerrit | 20:18 |
| rm_work | so I haven't really looked at them yet | 20:18 |
| perelman | but generally, any early reviews are welcome | 20:18 |
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| johnsom | Yeah, I hope to be able to have a look soon. | 20:19 |
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| johnsom | Failover issues have been keeping me busy. | 20:19 |
| perelman | not all the tests failing :) | 20:19 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:19 | |
| perelman | yes, once we fix the tests we will remove WIP | 20:19 |
| johnsom | Ok, other topics today? | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I think I got a notification that you included me on a talk proposal? | 20:20 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff I pinged you about the summit talk. I submitted it with you on there. | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks for that! | 20:20 |
| rm_work | eezhova: done, thought i already +2'd that | 20:20 |
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| eezhova | rm_work, thank you! | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | sbalukoff Let me know if we need to change the topics or anything (though it might have closed now) | 20:21 |
| perelman | who should i send the mail to about our participation in the midcycle and our topic? | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Thinking about what I might talk about, if active-active isn't ready, I could probably talk about installing in a non-devstack environment (especially since I think this might be one of our biggest obstacles for adoption at this time). | 20:21 |
| rm_work | perelman: did you sign up on the wiki page? | 20:21 |
| perelman | only wrote my username | 20:21 |
| johnsom | perelman https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/LbaasNewtonSprint | 20:21 |
| perelman | ok | 20:21 |
| rm_work | I feel like maybe we can put some topics on there? | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Please add your name, then on the etherpad I have started a topics section | 20:21 |
| perelman | i will sign there | 20:21 |
| rm_work | ah | 20:22 |
| rm_work | topics on ehterpad, k | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 20:22 |
| perelman | ok | 20:22 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle | 20:22 |
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| perelman | i will add Active Active topic | 20:22 |
| rm_work | I think many people aren't aware the Wiki signup page is a *different thing* than the etherpad, if you put your name on the etherpad make sure you ALSO sign up on the wiki | 20:22 |
| perelman | ok, thanks! | 20:23 |
| diltram | true rm_work, I didn't know | 20:23 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff I think the merge, active/active, and non-devstack deployment/production topologies, maybe a show-it-works demo | 20:23 |
| rm_work | yeah the wiki thing is new and isn't the normal procedure | 20:23 |
| rm_work | so probably it is confusing | 20:23 |
| rm_work | i expect a lot of people are unaware | 20:23 |
| dougwig | nova usually uses eventbrite for the official signups, fyi. | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yep. We'll have to be brief, as we'll be lucky to get through all that in one session. | 20:23 |
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| rm_work | yeah, so does barbican | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | rm_work yeah, I was just going to use our normal etherpad, but I think Cody wanted something more formal / nicer looking | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Or, concise, I mean. | 20:24 |
| rm_work | johnsom: yeah | 20:24 |
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| TrevorV | rm_work, I was unaware... lulz | 20:24 |
| rm_work | lol, looking at gerrit, prepare for merge-pocalypse :P | 20:24 |
| rm_work | TrevorV: yeah i think cody must have added you when he made it | 20:24 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! | 20:24 |
| TrevorV | Hopefully nothing gets in through the cracks ;) | 20:24 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Yes, just ideas at this point. I put the merge as a topic on the abstract though | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | yeah, I'll get going on that later today (after shaking this headache) and throughout the rest of the week. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | We have time... | 20:25 |
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| sbalukoff | Oh, sorry, misunderstood. | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | (I'm a bit loopy today... sorry about that.) | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Ok, anything else to discuss? | 20:26 |
| johnsom | There has been some talk/action on the DVR/AAP/FIP RFE/bug. | 20:27 |
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| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583694 | 20:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Feel free to comment as well if you plan to use FIPs and DVR | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Ok then. A nice short meeting today. | 20:28 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks folks! | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Going once.... | 20:28 |
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| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 13 20:28:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-07-13-20.00.html | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-07-13-20.00.txt | 20:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-07-13-20.00.log.html | 20:28 |
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| fnaval | thanks! | 20:29 |
| diltram | CU people, thanks | 20:29 |
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| Frito | laters | 20:29 |
| eezhova | thanks, bye | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | Seriously short meeting today | 20:29 |
| xgerman | bye | 20:29 |
| TrevorV | ggwp | 20:29 |
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