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| sgordon | #startmeeting telcowg | 14:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 14:02:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telcowg' | 14:02 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
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| sgordon | #topic roll call | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:02 | |
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| sgordon | any folks for telco/nfv working group? speak now or forever hold your peace! | 14:03 |
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| serverascode | I'm here :) | 14:03 |
| gjayavelu | hi | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | alrighty then :) | 14:03 |
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| sgordon | #topic updates on product working group integration | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates on product working group integration (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:04 | |
| cloudon | waves back... | 14:04 |
| sgordon | #info Security segregation proposal updated based on feedback | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269874/ | 14:04 |
| sgordon | cloudon, any luck with session border control? | 14:04 |
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| sgordon | #info sgordon to propose complex instance placement moved to "proposed" from "draft" | 14:05 |
| sgordon | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/user-stories/draft/complex_instance_placement.rst | 14:05 |
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| cloudon | Kinda. Have converted the text, but struggling with git this morning (more accuratley, Windows & VirtualBox) so not uploaded it yet, and had some questions on the tracker file yuo might be able to help with | 14:05 |
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| cloudon | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/HACKING.rst | 14:06 |
| sgordon | ahh yes | 14:06 |
| sgordon | that is a relatively new addition | 14:06 |
| cloudon | Says this: Save the tracker file (with as much information as you are able to provide) in the "trackers" directory using the same unique name as the user-story but ending with a .json extension | 14:06 |
| cloudon | Sample one just says "status":"todo" | 14:06 |
| sgordon | hrm yeah | 14:06 |
| cloudon | What's meant to go in it? | 14:06 |
| sgordon | i would ignore for now | 14:06 |
| cloudon | ignore = good | 14:07 |
| sgordon | there was a proposal for format bouncing around | 14:07 |
| sgordon | but doesnt seem like it's final yet | 14:07 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265998/ | 14:07 |
| cloudon | OK, so just keep the basic "todo" and submit? | 14:08 |
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| sgordon | i would just leave the file out | 14:08 |
| cloudon | ok, will do | 14:08 |
| sgordon | i am adding a comment on the review of the tracking template proposal (above) to note that it needs to be made clearer | 14:08 |
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| sgordon | (read: they need to include an update of HACKING.rst to point to the right thing) | 14:08 |
| sgordon | ok comment added | 14:10 |
| sgordon | thanks for highlighting that | 14:10 |
| cloudon | ta | 14:10 |
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| sgordon | #action cloudon to proceed with proposing SBC without .json file | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #info sgordon commented on json format proposal highlighting need to also clarify hacking docs | 14:10 |
| sgordon | #topic mid-cycle | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "mid-cycle (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:11 | |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-January/009376.html | 14:11 |
| sgordon | someone noted that i did not in fact propose an nfv/telcowg session at the ops mid-cycle | 14:11 |
| serverascode | that was me btw | 14:11 |
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| sgordon | main reason being that we have had such sessions at pretty much all the mid-cycles going back a ways, and also it didn't seem like we had a lot of folks attending | 14:12 |
| sgordon | i would still encourage people to respond on that thread if they want to have a BoF or hallway meetup | 14:12 |
| sgordon | i wont be at the event but i believe we are sending some other folks | 14:12 |
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| sgordon | #info respond to openstack-operators thread "[Openstack-operators] [telcowg][nvf][midcycle] Manchester ops nfv" if interested in nfv/telco BOF at ops mid-cycle | 14:13 |
| sgordon | #topic austin summit | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "austin summit (Meeting topic: telcowg)" | 14:13 | |
| sgordon | in a similar vein, submissions are still open for austin | 14:14 |
| sgordon | working group sessions are being run through the "normal" submission process this time | 14:14 |
| sgordon | i have not requested a dedicated slot for this working group at this time because i reached out to the OPNFV folks and they were going to | 14:14 |
| sgordon | (last time we effectively used the telcowg slot as a joint opnfv/telcowg meetup that was fairly freeform | 14:15 |
| sgordon | any thoughts yay/nay? | 14:15 |
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| cloudon | doesn't seem that there's enough activity in this forum to justify something different from OPNFV | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | yeah | 14:16 |
| sgordon | the main item of feedback last time | 14:16 |
| sgordon | was that it was excellent just to have everyone in the same room talking | 14:16 |
| sgordon | i figure that is just as easily achieved by joining in on the opnfv session | 14:16 |
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| sgordon | there will of course also be product wg sessions which will be relevant | 14:17 |
| cloudon | (apart from those who physically couldn't get into the OPNFV session...) | 14:17 |
| sgordon | since we are pushing the use cases through there | 14:17 |
| sgordon | lol yes | 14:17 |
| sgordon | apparently the venue is a bit larger again this time | 14:17 |
| sgordon | we'll see | 14:17 |
| cloudon | hurrah | 14:17 |
| sgordon | :) | 14:17 |
| sgordon | the working group space in tokyo was tight for every one i went to really | 14:18 |
| sgordon | so not just because nfv was in the title ;) | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | #topic other business | 14:18 |
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| sgordon | i dont have anything further at this time | 14:18 |
| sgordon | does anyone else? | 14:18 |
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| cloudon | Was interested to see the OpenSTack Foundation white paper on NFV this week | 14:19 |
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| serverascode | that was read a lot at my workplace | 14:19 |
| cloudon | Thought it made the case well. Interested in the very strong OPNFV steer. | 14:19 |
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| sgordon | yes, as you can probably tell from the attributions there was a very wide net of contributors | 14:21 |
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| cloudon | Should we read it as OpenStack endorsing all the OPNFV projects? | 14:22 |
| sgordon | i wouldn't :) | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | i would read it more as OpenStack endorsing working with OPNFV to try and address NFV use cases | 14:22 |
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| sgordon | obviously some opnfv requirements projects are more directly aligned with openstack development direction/velocity than others | 14:23 |
| sgordon | and of course there are other opnfv projects that relate to other components outside openstack :) | 14:23 |
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| cloudon | Makes sense. My worry when reading it was people might think e.g. "OK, so this is OpenStack telling me Doctor is the way people should monitor and manage their (NFV or other) cloud". | 14:25 |
| sgordon | i believe what kathy was trying to capture was more of a "this is a cross section of all the things happening in this area across the different groups" | 14:26 |
| sgordon | and doctor came up in particular because they have successfully merged features required by that use case to e.g. nova | 14:26 |
| cloudon | OK - sounds like I was reading too much into it | 14:27 |
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| sgordon | np hope that helps | 14:28 |
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| sgordon | anything else folks? | 14:28 |
| cloudon | not from me - will get back to fighting VirtualBox | 14:29 |
| serverascode | nope | 14:29 |
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| sgordon | aight | 14:30 |
| sgordon | thanks all | 14:30 |
| sgordon | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 14:30:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-01-27-14.02.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-01-27-14.02.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2016/telcowg.2016-01-27-14.02.log.html | 14:30 |
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| Swami | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| haleyb | #startmeeting neutron_dvr | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 15:01:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is haleyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_dvr' | 15:01 |
| haleyb | #chair Swami | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Swami haleyb | 15:01 |
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| * haleyb wonders if it will just be Swami and himself | 15:02 | |
| Swami | haleyb: are you also participating in the nova midcycle meetup this week | 15:02 |
| haleyb | Swami: no | 15:02 |
| Swami | haleyb: today it should be short | 15:02 |
| haleyb | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_dvr)" | 15:02 | |
| haleyb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-midcycle announced | 15:03 |
| haleyb | DVR items were on agenda - is anyone planning on attending? I see obondarev and myself as tentative | 15:04 |
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| Swami | haleyb: I will plan to attend. | 15:04 |
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| obondarev | hi | 15:04 |
| Swami | haleyb: will you be there. | 15:04 |
| Swami | obondarev: hi | 15:04 |
| obondarev | I'm planning | 15:05 |
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| obondarev | working on logistics | 15:05 |
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| haleyb | Swami: i'm trying, have to get approval, and i'm on vacation the week before, Mexico to Minnesota will be a shock :) | 15:06 |
| Swami | good to know that we have an agenda in place for DVR in the midcycle, haleyb: thanks for adding it to the agenda. | 15:06 |
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| haleyb | thank obondarev | 15:06 |
| Swami | haleyb: same here, I need to get approval as well, with all changes happening. | 15:06 |
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| haleyb | anyways, let's keep in touch in case one or more need to drop out of going | 15:07 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok makes sense | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | we can talk over irc instead of getting cold :) | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | #topic Bugs | 15:08 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yep | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | unless you want to talk live migration first | 15:08 |
| Swami | There was one bug that was filed recently for this week. | 15:08 |
| Swami | haleyb: no we can proceed with bugs and then come back to live migration, since we have already spoken about live migration. | 15:09 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1538163 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538163 in neutron "DVR: race in dvr serviceable port deletion" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:09 |
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| Swami | obondarev: I think you have filed this bug. | 15:09 |
| obondarev | Swami: yep | 15:10 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272634/ is out for review | 15:10 |
| Swami | obondarev: you also have a patch for review. | 15:10 |
| obondarev | it poped up during dvr refactoring work | 15:10 |
| obondarev | I just noticed that there is a potential race | 15:10 |
| Swami | obondarev: yes I just had a first pass review at it yesterday. | 15:10 |
| obondarev | the patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272634/ | 15:10 |
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| obondarev | Swami: thanks, I've addressed your comments | 15:11 |
| Swami | obondarev: yes I did notice today. | 15:11 |
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| Swami | let us move on to the next one. | 15:11 |
| obondarev | so please review and we can move on | 15:12 |
| obondarev | yeah | 15:12 |
| Swami | The next high in the list is the HA and DVR | 15:12 |
| haleyb | Swami: i had another new bug | 15:12 |
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| Swami | haleyb: have you filed. | 15:12 |
| haleyb | but i'll wait until the gait failures part | 15:12 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok no problem. | 15:12 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/ | 15:13 |
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| Swami | Again the DVR SNAT HA patch is also failing jenkins with couple of L3-HA tests, I have asked adolfo to take a look at it. | 15:13 |
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| Swami | otherwise it should be good and I have already saw carl_baldwin added a +2. | 15:14 |
| haleyb | Is it me or is the title of that change "HA or DVR" instead of "HA for DVR" ? | 15:15 |
| Swami | haleyb: has the title changed, I did not notice. | 15:15 |
| obondarev | haleyb: haha, good catch! | 15:16 |
| haleyb | changed in PS66, doh, but not as important as finding why the test fails | 15:16 |
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| Swami | haleyb: might have been a wrong key hit when trying to ammend the patch. | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes good catch. | 15:17 |
| obondarev | how might that happen, funny) | 15:17 |
| Swami | obondarev: sometimes things happen. | 15:18 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:18 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445255 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "DVR FloatingIP to unbound allowed_address_pairs does not work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:18 |
| obondarev | Swami: indeed | 15:18 |
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| Swami | This one has a patch as well and in review for a while. | 15:19 |
| Swami | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254439/ | 15:19 |
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| Swami | I think carl_baldwin is closely following this patch. | 15:20 |
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| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:21 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1522824 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 15:21 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215467 - This patch is almost ready | 15:22 |
| Swami | The next one in the list is | 15:23 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445255 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445255 in neutron "DVR FloatingIP to unbound allowed_address_pairs does not work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:23 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254439/ | 15:23 |
| Swami | haleyb: i have addressed review comments from you on this patch. | 15:23 |
| haleyb | yes, thanks, i'll take a look | 15:24 |
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| Swami | I think that's all I had for bugs this week. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | Is there any other bugs that needs attention at this time. | 15:25 |
| Swami | Off course we have the live migration bug. | 15:26 |
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| haleyb | There's at least two OVS/DVR bugs, let's jump to gate failures | 15:26 |
| Swami | haleyb: obondarev: I did see that there were some comments added to the nova midcycle etherpad on the live migration work. | 15:26 |
| Swami | So let us wait for their feedback and proceed on it. | 15:27 |
| obondarev | can you share the libk please? | 15:27 |
| obondarev | link* | 15:27 |
| Swami | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 15:27 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes let us move on to the gate failures, that's all for the bugs. | 15:27 |
| haleyb | #topic Gate Failures | 15:27 |
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| haleyb | I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1538387 yesterday after staring at it for a while | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538387 in neutron "fdb_chg_ip_tun throwing exception because fdb_entries not in correct format" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:28 |
| haleyb | Kevin sent out https://review.openstack.org/272986 this morning | 15:28 |
| haleyb | Seems this l2pop issue has been there for over a year | 15:29 |
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| haleyb | I basically started looking through the logs for exceptions, since we shouldn't have any | 15:29 |
| Swami | haleyb: is this bug only seen in DVR environments. | 15:29 |
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| Swami | haleyb: did you find any exceptions in the logs. | 15:30 |
| haleyb | I only saw it in the dvr-multninode job, but it could be other places | 15:30 |
| haleyb | I also found "DVR: Unable to retrieve subnet information for subnet_id" | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | looks like get_subnet_for_dvr() call in _bind_centralized_snat_port_on_dvr_subnet() needs to check if subnet_info is not {} | 15:30 |
| haleyb | throwing a Keyerror | 15:31 |
| haleyb | Was going to file that today | 15:31 |
| Swami | haleyb: was this introduced by the recent refactor on this function. | 15:31 |
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| Swami | obondarev: I think you made some changes to this get_subnet_for_dvr recently. | 15:31 |
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| obondarev | haleyb: this was filed I guess | 15:31 |
| haleyb | I don't think so - one caller of that function checks the return value, one does not | 15:31 |
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| obondarev | let me find the link | 15:31 |
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| obondarev | it is something that I reviewed recently.. | 15:33 |
| haleyb | Both the multinode and dvr-multinode jobs are pretty bad, over 50%, but it's the migration issue, at least the volume migration is the one test failing | 15:33 |
| Swami | haleyb: is the volume migration issue also seen on single node jobs. | 15:34 |
| obondarev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272025/ | 15:34 |
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| haleyb | obondarev: thanks. that check should probably be up near the call, i'll add that | 15:35 |
| Swami | obondarev: is this patch related to the issue that haleyb was seeing in the logs related to subnet_info. | 15:35 |
| obondarev | Swami: I guess so | 15:35 |
| haleyb | i had even added myself but not made the connection | 15:36 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, same issue | 15:36 |
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| obondarev | what I noticed recently is that from time to time dvr multinode job fails with ~20 failed tests | 15:36 |
| obondarev | not very oftem but still | 15:36 |
| Swami | haleyb: in a single node there should not be such migration failures, but was it introduced or triggered by any other patch that merged. | 15:37 |
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| obondarev | usually it either passes or fails with 1 failed test | 15:37 |
| Swami | haleyb: do you have the logstash filter to filter out the failures for this particular failure. | 15:37 |
| haleyb | obondarev: same failure reason? I guess if you see it again we should look closer | 15:37 |
| obondarev | haleyb: not sure about failure reason | 15:38 |
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| haleyb | Swami: no, but there are very few failures (ERROR) in the logs these days once we fix the two I mentioned | 15:38 |
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| obondarev | one of examples http://logs.openstack.org/55/272555/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/e6f9faa/console.html | 15:39 |
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| obondarev | 17 failed tests | 15:39 |
| obondarev | it seems like smth went wrong and tests start to fail | 15:39 |
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| obondarev | didn't have a chance to look closer yet | 15:40 |
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| Swami | obondarev: seems to state about the SSHtimeout issue. | 15:41 |
| haleyb | i know a lot of mtu patches have been merging as well, both in neutron and the gate, which might help as well | 15:41 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:multinode-neutron-mtu | 15:41 |
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| obondarev | cool, hope it'l help | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: obondarev: btw the patch that I added for debugging the SSHtimeout issue is not quiet working right because of timing issue. I suspect by the time I try to ping the metadata is not in place. | 15:42 |
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| Swami | haleyb: obondarev: is there a test to validate if the metadata is properly received by the VM. | 15:43 |
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| obondarev | I think there are plenty in tempest | 15:44 |
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| obondarev | any that boots a vm and checks connectivity | 15:45 |
| Swami | obondarev: we normally check it from external connectivity, but that does not tell us if it is a metadata issue or not. | 15:46 |
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| obondarev | ah | 15:46 |
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| obondarev | you mean which are checking specifically for metadata | 15:46 |
| Swami | obondarev: yes. | 15:47 |
| obondarev | can't remember | 15:47 |
| haleyb | Swami: i don't think there is a test, but we do have the VM console log | 15:47 |
| obondarev | right | 15:47 |
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| Swami | haleyb: yes, it is only through the vm console log we will be able to identify. | 15:48 |
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| Swami | haleyb: obondarev: is there a way to figure out from the router namespace that the metadata request was processed for the particular vm. | 15:48 |
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| haleyb | I don't know if the proxy logs are there, but the metadata server log is i believe | 15:49 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok | 15:49 |
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| haleyb | http://logs.openstack.org/55/272555/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/e6f9faa/console.html#_2016-01-26_18_25_22_075 | 15:50 |
| haleyb | i don't know metadata well enough to know if that's a complete failure | 15:50 |
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| Swami | haleyb: so that seems that metadata might be another victim for the SSHtimeout issue. | 15:51 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, assuming these VMs are getting ssh keys that way | 15:52 |
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| obondarev | and one example is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1522824 | 15:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522824 in neutron "DVR multinode job: test_shelve_instance failure due to SSHTimeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 15:52 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes I think in the tempest run that's how they pass the keys. | 15:52 |
| obondarev | haleyb: Swami: exactly | 15:53 |
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| Swami | agreed. | 15:54 |
| haleyb | that failure is different from the one i linked, seems metadata worked in my case, but only instance-id was returned | 15:54 |
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| haleyb | 5 minutes left, let's move onto last topic | 15:55 |
| haleyb | #topic Performance/Scalability | 15:55 |
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| haleyb | obondarev: one patch left? :) | 15:55 |
| obondarev | haleyb: right | 15:55 |
| obondarev | the main one | 15:56 |
| obondarev | it'll require some rebase work once HA for DVR merges | 15:56 |
| obondarev | or it'll merge first :) | 15:56 |
| haleyb | i borked the HA DVR patch updating the commit message, so it will take an hour or more to clear | 15:57 |
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| Swami | haleyb: no problem, anyway we have a couple of tests that were failing, let me check with adolfo on this. | 15:58 |
| Swami | before we close. | 15:58 |
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| haleyb | he's getting a free recheck | 15:58 |
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| haleyb | #topic Open discussion | 15:58 |
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| Swami | haleyb: we were (obondarev and myself) planning to add in a general session talk on DVR improvements for Mitaka. | 15:59 |
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| Swami | haleyb: would you like to be part of that discussion. | 15:59 |
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| haleyb | Swami: sure, i was going to ping you offline about it, but works for me | 15:59 |
| haleyb | let me know how i can help with abstract | 15:59 |
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| Swami | haleyb: ok I will loop you in the discussion. We have an abstract in google doc. | 16:00 |
| obondarev | haleyb: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WCjq0FL1NxSistA7nfceeXaf3gmVzDCvJm0Jmwt80Dw/edit | 16:00 |
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| Swami | obondarev: thanks for the link | 16:00 |
| haleyb | thanks, and we need to close out for the ML2ers | 16:00 |
| haleyb | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss L7 feature (and review) timeline re: Mitaka (sbalukoff) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 16:00:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-01-27-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-01-27-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_dvr/2016/neutron_dvr.2016-01-27-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
| rkukura | thanks DVR’ers! | 16:00 |
| Swami | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| Swami | bye | 16:00 |
| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | yalei: Here for ML2 today? | 16:02 |
| yalei | rkukura:yes | 16:02 |
| yalei | sorry, I am late | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 16:02 |
| rkukura | scheuran_: hello | 16:02 |
| scheuran_ | hi | 16:02 |
| rkukura | anyone else here for ML2? | 16:03 |
| yalei | hi all | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | lets get started… | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 16:03:53 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_January_27.2C_2016 | 16:04 |
| rkukura | very lite agenda today - anyone have anything to add? | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | OK, lets breeze through it then | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | Only announcement I have is that the summit session proposal deadline is February 1 | 16:05 |
| rkukura | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/call-for-speakers | 16:05 |
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| scheuran_ | hotels seem already to be sold out :( | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | yes, please make bookings quickly - | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | other day somebody mentioned that in Neutron meeting as well | 16:06 |
| rkukura | scheuran_: manage to find one? | 16:06 |
| scheuran_ | rkukura, I need to take one more outside of the center.. | 16:07 |
| scheuran_ | need to check the public transport first... | 16:07 |
| rkukura | scheuran_: maybe Uber | 16:08 |
| rkukura | any other annoucements? | 16:08 |
| scheuran_ | but in the openstack foundation proposed ones around the venue there are only some king suites left ... | 16:08 |
| rkukura | I should have waited to book ;) | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | #topic limited-portsec implementation | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | yalei: Looks like actively being reviewed/updated - Any update on this? | 16:09 |
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| yalei | yes, it is in reviewing and some update based on comments | 16:10 |
| rkukura | Seems on track to make Mitaka then? | 16:10 |
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| yalei | hope so | 16:10 |
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| yalei | welcome more comments :) | 16:10 |
| yalei | I try to ask kevin to review it again | 16:11 |
| rkukura | amotoki said he would also ping kevinbenton about it, right? | 16:11 |
| rkukura | OK, anything else on limited-portsec? | 16:12 |
| yalei | no, thanks | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | scheuran_: Any update on your agent work (forgot to put that in agenda)? | 16:13 |
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| scheuran_ | rkukura, yeah got a +2 from ihrachys - thanks!!! Just need another core approval to get the first patchset in | 16:14 |
| rkukura | great! | 16:14 |
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| scheuran_ | rkukura, and after that it's "just" moving the code into a separate file | 16:14 |
| neiljerram | As I'm here, and there's time: rkukura, how do you feel about the use of the multiprovider extension that's being discussed in the routed networks spec? | 16:14 |
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| scheuran_ | currently I'm coding the macvtap agent along those new interfaces...will push it up later this week | 16:14 |
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| scheuran_ | that's it | 16:14 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: thanks for bringing that up! | 16:15 |
| rkukura | scheuran_: sounds good - thanks! | 16:15 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: I’m not up to date on that discussion, but will try to catch up today | 16:15 |
| rkukura | Can you summarize the proposal? | 16:15 |
| neiljerram | Cool, it will be good to have your input. | 16:16 |
| rkukura | I did see there was an email thread on monolithic plugin vs. ML2 driver, and I haven’t followed up on that either (or maybe that’s the same discussion) | 16:16 |
| neiljerram | To be honest I'm not fully up with the detail myself, but I believe the proposal now is to use multiprovider to meet the use case in that spec | 16:17 |
| neiljerram | That other thread was me too, but not closely related. | 16:17 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: So would this involve multiple network segments that do not have L2 bridging between them? | 16:17 |
| neiljerram | But yes, I'd appreciate your input on that too! | 16:17 |
| neiljerram | Yes, that's right. | 16:18 |
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| neiljerram | The 'large deployers' physical networks consist of L2 segments with routing between them | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | So tenants would need to be aware that the networks they are creatining are not L2 bridge domains in that case | 16:18 |
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| neiljerram | Indeed, and that part of the reqt is proposed to be met by adding an 'l2-adjacency' flag to the Network object. | 16:19 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: Interesting - I was just going to ask if anything like that was being proposed | 16:19 |
| neiljerram | So in the large deployers case, and also for Calico (my project), l2-adjacency would be false. | 16:19 |
| rkukura | Is this something the tenant can request, or just see what they get? | 16:20 |
| neiljerram | I think we're mostly talking provider networks here. | 16:20 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: I see - tenants wouldn’t even be creating their own networks or subnets in this use case, right? | 16:20 |
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| rkukura | Just creating ports on provider routed networks that don’t have l2-adjacency | 16:21 |
| neiljerram | Yes, at least that's the primary target. | 16:21 |
| neiljerram | I think it still works, though, to mix provider routed networks with traditional l2 tenant networks. | 16:22 |
| rkukura | neiljerram: Seems to make sense. | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | neiljerram : can you post the link to the spec? | 16:22 |
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| neiljerram | IIUC, using multiprovider is interesting because it helps with the question of knowing which hosts are connected to each segment. | 16:22 |
| rkukura | ML2’ers - please give some thought to the idea of relaxing the notion that ML2 networks are always L2 broadcast domains, and comment on these discussions! | 16:22 |
| neiljerram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ | 16:23 |
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| rkukura | neiljerram: Thanks. Also, would you like us to put this on the agenda for next weeks ML2 meeting? | 16:23 |
| neiljerram | Thanks very much everyone! | 16:23 |
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| neiljerram | Yes, great idea. Also I will try to make sure that I'm fully ramped up on the detail myself, by then! | 16:24 |
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| rkukura | neiljerram: Sounds good, and feel free to invite others working on this | 16:24 |
| rkukura | Any other topics for today’s open discussion? | 16:24 |
| neiljerram | sure, I'll invite Carl in particular | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | I have a bit of background on this - | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: want to discuss now, or save for next week? | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | I have not looked at the spec, but, I was in the discussion when this topic took place during neutron mid-cycle | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | we can discuss this in the next meeting | 16:26 |
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| neiljerram | Sukhdev, thanks - but note that the spec has evolved a great deal since then... | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | neiljerram : correct - let me review it to catch up | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | Ideally, I’d like to see nova/neutron have some more generic way of specifying “the thing to which a port is attached”, where this could be an L2 network, an L3 routed network, or even some policy group kind of thing | 16:27 |
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| rkukura | But pragmatically, the current proposal looks worth discussing | 16:28 |
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| rkukura | Anything else on routed networks or anything else today? | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | Any proposal for the summit? | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | How about SG - which we pushed to Newton release? | 16:29 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Are you asking about summit session proposals, or design sessions? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | summit session? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | deadline is next week | 16:30 |
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| rkukura | I think we have agreement we want to discuss how ML2 can address SG and other extension enforcement as a design session, but I’m not sure anyone is thinking about a main summit session on this, are they? | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | for design session, we have time - | 16:32 |
| rkukura | If anyone is looking for main summit session co-presenters or anything, now is a good time to bring that up | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | yup - that was the reason I brought it up | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | I wish we had something new in ML2 worth presenting, but this cycle has been kind of quiet on that front | 16:33 |
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| rkukura | Lets see if we can put together some good general ML2 enhancements for Newton, and then we can team up to present in Barcelona! | 16:35 |
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| rkukura | Anything else today before we wrap up? | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | sounds good | 16:36 |
| rkukura | If not… | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | nothing from me | 16:36 |
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| rkukura | Thanks everyone - have a great week! | 16:36 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 16:36:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-01-27-16.03.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-01-27-16.03.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-01-27-16.03.log.html | 16:36 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 17:00:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | o/ | 17:01 |
| rsyed | o/ | 17:01 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:01 |
| james_li | james li | 17:01 |
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| mugsie | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:01 |
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| * Kiall hides | 17:02 | |
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| mugsie | kiall to file bug re update_status unnecessarily calling out to get_serial (see IRC meeting logs) | 17:02 |
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| Kiall | Nope, doing it righjt now | 17:02 |
| Kiall | right* | 17:02 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:02 |
| mugsie | federico3 backpoort 6fa134a and 51b4869 | 17:02 |
| Kiall | (that was my third attept at right, and it was still wrong) | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | federico3: you around? | 17:03 |
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| mugsie | #action federico3 backpoort 6fa134a and 51b4869 | 17:03 |
| mugsie | mugsie backport 320dec2 | 17:03 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie backport 320dec2 | 17:03 |
| federico3 | o/ | 17:03 |
| mugsie | ah - did ^ get backported? | 17:03 |
| federico3 | mugsie: the backport CRs are out | 17:03 |
| mugsie | great | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage (timsim - recurring) | 17:04 |
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| timsim | Alright... | 17:04 |
| timsim | There's one I still haven't looked at :D | 17:04 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1534490 | 17:04 |
| openstack | timsim: Error: malone bug 1534490 not found | 17:04 |
| Kiall | "The information on this page is private." | 17:05 |
| timsim | federico3 is on that one, but it's private | 17:05 |
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| * timsim seems to remember that it need not be anymore | 17:05 | |
| timsim | anyway | 17:05 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1535249 | 17:05 |
| Kiall | it's private as the guy has TONNES of logs uploaded, not because it's a sec issue | 17:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535249 in Designate "Notify port of NSD4 backend" [Undecided,New] | 17:05 |
| federico3 | it contains logs sent by the requester | 17:05 |
| Kiall | that feels like user error at a glance | 17:06 |
| Kiall | he's not included the relavant config snippet to know | 17:06 |
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| timsim | Yeah, I'll ask for more config. Or spelunk his ansible. | 17:06 |
| elarson | o/ | 17:06 |
| Kiall | request pool_nameserver and Incomplete? | 17:06 |
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| timsim | yep | 17:07 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1536464 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536464 in Designate "Unit test failure when buildnig debian package for Mitaka b2: testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError in PoolManagerInitTest.test_init_no_pool_targets" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | did that get fixed? | 17:07 |
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| mugsie | i thought it was part of the pecan fix | 17:07 |
| timsim | Did we start skipping that unit test? | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | we did | 17:07 |
| federico3 | yep, since a good while | 17:08 |
| timsim | Maybe not by m2? | 17:08 |
| mugsie | not by m2 | 17:08 |
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| Kiall | though, I wonder if it's related to the other mock issues.. prob worth turning it back on to see | 17:08 |
| federico3 | Kiall: tried, still failed | 17:08 |
| mugsie | mark as fix released, m3 ? | 17:08 |
| Kiall | federico3: thanks | 17:08 |
| Kiall | mugsie: + | 17:08 |
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| timsim | Cool. | 17:08 |
| Kiall | mlavalle: we all noticed now ;) | 17:08 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1536932 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1536932 in Designate "[Docs] /v2/zones/tasks/transfer_requests/<id> is undocumented for PATCH and DELETE call." [Undecided,New] - Assigned to sonu (sonu-bhumca11) | 17:09 |
| mugsie | med - m3 | 17:09 |
| Kiall | I feel like ekarlso may have done that one.. | 17:09 |
| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1537688 | 17:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1537688 in Designate "domain-create never succeed in NSD4" [Undecided,New] | 17:09 |
| timsim | Same guy with the nsd backend | 17:10 |
| Kiall | View a Transfer Request | 17:10 |
| Kiall | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 17:10 |
| Kiall | .. http:get:: /zones/tasks/transfer_requests/(uuid:id) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | yep, done | 17:10 |
| mugsie | Kiall: not patch and delete ;) | 17:10 |
| Kiall | oh | 17:10 |
| Kiall | oh well | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | timsim: Med,m3 | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | looks like a trivial fix to strip that | 17:11 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:11 |
| timsim | Agreed | 17:11 |
| timsim | That's it :) | 17:11 |
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| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage (kiall - recurring) | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/485171/ | 17:12 |
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| Kiall | As usual, take a few, nombinate anything that warrants backporting | 17:12 |
| Kiall | 282635b Merge "Fix _assert_exception()" | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | e2061af Merge "Rename zone > domain for errors in V1" | 17:12 |
| Kiall | 1a6a6fb Fixes wording of exceptions for delete maybe | 17:12 |
| mugsie | oh | 17:12 |
| mugsie | wait | 17:12 |
| mugsie | ignore me | 17:12 |
| Kiall | Yea, thats not one to do IMO | 17:13 |
| mugsie | well, there was no rename in L | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | 1a6a6fb Fixes wording of exceptions for delete | 17:13 |
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| Kiall | any others? and takers for doing the BP? | 17:13 |
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| timsim | So just: | 17:14 |
| mugsie | I will do it when I do my one from last week | 17:14 |
| timsim | 282635b Merge "Fix _assert_exception()" | 17:14 |
| timsim | and | 17:14 |
| Kiall | and e2061af Merge "Rename zone > domain for errors in V1" I guess | 17:14 |
| timsim | 1a6a6fb Fixes wording of exceptions for delete | 17:14 |
| timsim | ? | 17:14 |
| Kiall | yea | 17:14 |
| timsim | zone > domain shouldn't be necessary because no rename | 17:14 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | just ã282635b and 1a6a6fb | 17:15 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: want to do both :) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | you do | 17:15 |
| elarson | mugsie: I can one | 17:15 |
| mugsie | OK, then elarson you get 282635b | 17:15 |
| elarson | I can't seem to type today... but I can backport something ;) | 17:15 |
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| elarson | got it | 17:15 |
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| Kiall | both are done and uploading ;) | 17:16 |
| elarson | DONE! | 17:16 |
| Kiall | trivial ones | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #topic Designate/Neutron Integration Update (mlavalle - recurring) | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | mlavalle: well done :) | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | (cake) | 17:16 |
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| mugsie | fyi - the patch merged | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | mugsie: thanks....... :-) | 17:16 |
| mugsie | after much hard work and repeated patchsets | 17:16 |
| mlavalle | this is what is left: | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | http://i.imgur.com/oTGwt1u.webm | 17:17 |
| mlavalle | The Nova side: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271578/ | 17:17 |
| mlavalle | patchset is up for review. The change is a lot simpler than we expected in the spec | 17:17 |
| Kiall | It looks it, -1 for lack of tests, but, no CI fails .. so, nothing was totally broke ;) | 17:18 |
| Kiall | That should be easy to get landed :) | 17:18 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:18 |
| mlavalle | we spent a lot of lines in the spec worrying about re-attempting the port operation if neutron wasn't upgraded yet | 17:18 |
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| mlavalle | it turns out the neutron api in nova keeps a cache of the neutron extensions enebled, that is updated periodically (every 10 minutes by default) | 17:19 |
| mugsie | cool - this looks a lot simpler that I thought it was going to be alright | 17:19 |
| mugsie | mlavalle: when you get tests give me a shout, and I will start pinging people | 17:19 |
| mlavalle | so no need of retries logic.... just check if our extension is enabled and in that case send dns_name o the port | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | Next up.. Get trove / octavia / cue / etc to "dup" the Nova patch for each of there services :) | 17:20 |
| * Kiall will bug them today | 17:20 | |
| mlavalle | the other piece I am working on is operators documentation in the networking guide | 17:20 |
| mugsie | ah - one step ahead of us :) | 17:20 |
| mlavalle | I am adding a chapter for the Nuetron, Nova, Designate integration | 17:21 |
| mlavalle | the patchset should be up for review in a few days | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | great | 17:21 |
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| mlavalle | I strongly recommend that you take a look at it and create its counterpart in the Designate docs | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | any questions for mlavalle ? | 17:22 |
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| Kiall | Nope, I left mine in the review :) | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | that's it from me this week | 17:22 |
| mugsie | mlavalle: ++ - we need to do a docs day before the end of cycle | 17:22 |
| mugsie | great - thanks again! | 17:22 |
| mlavalle | mugsie: if you invite me, i'll help | 17:22 |
| mugsie | will do! | 17:22 |
| mugsie | #topic OpenStack Summit Call for Speakers Ends Feb 1 https://t.co/FYXvNL2wfv (timsim) | 17:23 |
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| timsim | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/call-for-speakers/ | 17:23 |
| timsim | So the Austin Summit call for speakers deadline is coming fast. | 17:23 |
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| mugsie | it is | 17:23 |
| timsim | If we want to submit talks, we better do it :) | 17:23 |
| Kiall | pretty sure they keep moving that date up | 17:23 |
| mugsie | do we want to do the "Hello, I am giving this talk for the 6/7th time" talk? | 17:23 |
| * Kiall suggests we C+P the workshop from last year, and add mlavalle's work | 17:24 | |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:24 |
| mugsie | I like the workshops | 17:24 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 17:24 |
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| mugsie | timsim: we will not be making USBs the night before | 17:24 |
| timsim | preach | 17:24 |
| Kiall | Oh, go on. | 17:24 |
| mugsie | never again | 17:24 |
| Kiall | do it the night before ;) | 17:24 |
| * mlavalle enjoys the cakes sent by Kiall :-) | 17:24 | |
| timsim | Kiall you went and partied that night | 17:24 |
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| Kiall | I know :) | 17:25 |
| timsim | :P | 17:25 |
| mugsie | so, who would like to get in on doing the workshop? | 17:25 |
| mugsie | timsim: we ate raw chicken instead :) | 17:25 |
| * elarson is happy to do it | 17:25 | |
| timsim | haha. | 17:25 |
| Kiall | Happy to.. Don't mind if that's helper or speaker ;) | 17:25 |
| timsim | Yeah I'm happy to join in as a helper/speaker/whatever | 17:25 |
| timsim | Our whole team will be there. | 17:25 |
| Kiall | WS with too little helpers == painful. | 17:26 |
| timsim | So we should have plenty of helpers. | 17:26 |
| mugsie | OK - Kiall, timsim, elarson, mugsie - anyone else? | 17:26 |
| Ram_ | if anything can be done remotely I can contribute as well | 17:26 |
| Kiall | K - mlavalle - you in austin? :) | 17:26 |
| Kiall | at the summit that is, not right now | 17:26 |
| mlavalle | Kiall: yes.... I live in San Antonio. it's just 1 hour driver form my house | 17:26 |
| mugsie | Ram_: it is touch and go if the internet works for these things - so we generally need to be in the venue :( | 17:27 |
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| Ram_ | when is it? | 17:27 |
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| mugsie | want to show your work off in a live workshop mlavalle ? | 17:27 |
| timsim | Ram_: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/ | 17:27 |
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| mlavalle | mugsie, Kiall: I am going to submit a talk proposal to do a specific hands on session on using and configuring this integration | 17:28 |
| Kiall | cool :) | 17:28 |
| mlavalle | mugsie, Kiall: but I would also participate in your workshop if you invite me | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | OK then. - I will C+P the proposal from Tokyo, and add this integration in as one of the items, and add us to the speakers list | 17:29 |
| Kiall | For those wondering what the WS format usually is - https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/designate-interactive-workshop-install-and-operate-2 | 17:29 |
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| mugsie | mlavalle: very happy to :) | 17:29 |
| mlavalle | mugsie, Kiall: this way we do an overview in the workshop and an in depth session | 17:29 |
| mugsie | I will send out an email later in the week to organise syncing up for it | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Sounds good :) | 17:30 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie arrange sync re workshop | 17:30 |
| mugsie | any other talks we should do? | 17:30 |
| Ram_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272081/ | 17:30 |
| Ram_ | Added a new specification for Tenant domainID for Designate Sink | 17:30 |
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| Ram_ | can you guys take a look at it? | 17:31 |
| mugsie | Ram_: OK, we will move to that in one second, after the talks item :) | 17:31 |
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| Ram_ | review | 17:31 |
| Ram_ | ok | 17:31 |
| timsim | mugsie: We'll probably come up with some good ones after the mid-cycle >:D | 17:31 |
| mugsie | true :) | 17:31 |
| timsim | For Barcelona, I suppose. | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | OK - if that is it ? | 17:31 |
| mugsie | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272081/ | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272081/ | 17:32 |
| mugsie | Ram_: the only issue I have seen wiht that spec is it uses the V1 API | 17:32 |
| Ram_ | right now we have a hardcoded domainid in sink handlers | 17:32 |
| Ram_ | I'll update that to v2 api | 17:32 |
| mugsie | sorry, the main issue - we would need to dig in a bit more | 17:33 |
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| Ram_ | when we create records in this domain | 17:33 |
| * Kiall is having a quick read | 17:33 | |
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| Ram_ | generally tenants won't be able to look at the them | 17:33 |
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| mugsie | i would prefer something like https://review.openstack.org/89689 | 17:33 |
| Ram_ | as they won't have access to this domain | 17:33 |
| mugsie | #link https://review.openstack.org/89689 | 17:33 |
| mugsie | ( I am not keen on creating a column for -sink, when it is being superceeded by the work mlavalle is currently doing ) | 17:34 |
| Ram_ | ok | 17:34 |
| mugsie | but, I will leave comments in the review | 17:35 |
| mugsie | timsim: Kiall elarson federico3 ekarlso etc - can you re3view it as well? | 17:35 |
| timsim | Sure | 17:35 |
| Ram_ | do you have a spec for 89689? | 17:35 |
| federico3 | yup | 17:35 |
| mugsie | Ram_: no - it was a crazy idea I came up with | 17:36 |
| mugsie | as a POC | 17:36 |
| Kiall | Ram_: Yea, I think I agree with mugsie.. we may not want something as generic as mugsie's patch he linked, but having it somewhat separate to the main domain table / API feels better | 17:36 |
| mugsie | yeah, mine was a little too abstracted | 17:36 |
| Ram_ | ok | 17:36 |
| Kiall | i.e. mugsie's was a giant generic works for all the $things, vs keeping the concept (API) and the internals being a little hardcoded for each option type, which simplifies it a chunk and keeps the "clean" API | 17:37 |
| Ram_ | I'll give it a thought and see if I can come up with something new | 17:37 |
| mugsie | great :) | 17:37 |
| mugsie | #topic sonuk: tempest plugin implementation | 17:38 |
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| mugsie | sonuk does not seem to be here - will push for a week | 17:38 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:38 | |
| mugsie | anything off agenda/ | 17:38 |
| mugsie | ?* | 17:38 |
| timsim | I wrote up some quick options for exposing the inherited TTL on recordsets: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273148/ | 17:38 |
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| mugsie | i saw that pop in | 17:38 |
| timsim | Like 5 minutes before the meet | 17:39 |
| timsim | So, if people want to leave their thoughts on there, that'd be swell | 17:39 |
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| elarson | we have an issue where mdns is going catatonic. I mention just in case anyone experiences something similar and finds any insights | 17:39 |
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| timsim | catatonic == not responding on TCP | 17:40 |
| mugsie | elarson: not that I have seen ... | 17:40 |
| Kiall | federico3: ^ | 17:40 |
| mugsie | what about UDP? | 17:41 |
| timsim | UDP is fine | 17:41 |
| Kiall | the bug federico3's been digging into sounds familar. | 17:41 |
| * elarson hopes so | 17:41 | |
| mugsie | huh | 17:41 |
| timsim | We only use TCP though | 17:41 |
| mugsie | ah | 17:41 |
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| mugsie | OK, federico3 and elarson do you want to sync later and see if they are related? | 17:42 |
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| federico3 | that was pool manager tho. timsim, can you provide some logs? | 17:42 |
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| federico3 | sure | 17:42 |
| mugsie | cool. | 17:43 |
| elarson | yeah | 17:43 |
| timsim | Yeah, we can. I think we found some useful ones. | 17:43 |
| mugsie | timsim: useful logs? in openstack? wut? :P | 17:43 |
| timsim | oh jk | 17:43 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:43 |
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| mugsie | OK - anything else for today? | 17:44 |
| timsim | Looks like mostly kernel logs :P | 17:44 |
| mugsie | ah | 17:44 |
| timsim | I put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272316 | 17:44 |
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| timsim | During tests when things go wrong, we've seen zones that either stay in Error forever, or pending forever. Hopefully this might fix that. | 17:45 |
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| mugsie | timsim: more that 72 chars on a line in the commit msg | 17:45 |
| mugsie | tut tut tut | 17:45 |
| timsim | -_- | 17:45 |
| timsim | Nto more than 80 | 17:45 |
| mugsie | cool - will look at that soon | 17:45 |
| mugsie | 72 on the body | 17:45 |
| timsim | kill me | 17:45 |
| mugsie | 79 for the title | 17:45 |
| mugsie | Kiall: ^ needs review as well | 17:46 |
| Kiall | sortty, distracted by some internal stuff. | 17:46 |
| mugsie | sortty? | 17:46 |
| timsim | Kiall-speak for sorry, I'm guessing :P | 17:46 |
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| mugsie | maybe | 17:46 |
| mugsie | who knows | 17:47 |
| mugsie | OK - we good to call it then? | 17:47 |
| timsim | Sure | 17:47 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss L7 feature (and review) timeline re: Mitaka (sbalukoff) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 17:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 17:47:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:47 |
| elarson | yup | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-01-27-17.00.html | 17:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-01-27-17.00.txt | 17:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-01-27-17.00.log.html | 17:47 |
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| cp16net | #startmeeting trove | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 18:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cp16net. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:00 |
| amrith | ./ | 18:00 |
| tosky | hi | 18:00 |
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| egafford | Hi all! | 18:00 |
| cp16net | howdy everyone | 18:00 |
| imandhan | o/ | 18:01 |
| cp16net | egafford: welcome | 18:01 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:01 |
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| egafford | cp16net: Thanks! (This is Ethan from the Sahara team; I'm hoping to serve as a Sahara liaison for when/if that might be useful.) | 18:01 |
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| cp16net | awesome | 18:02 |
| cp16net | lets get this party started | 18:02 |
| egafford | And, you know, to Trove, because Trove. :) | 18:02 |
| cp16net | #topic pulse update | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pulse update (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:02 | |
| cp16net | #link http://bit.ly/1VQyg00 | 18:02 |
| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:03 |
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| cp16net | we've got more reviews | 18:04 |
| cp16net | one stat i added what on the others tab for reviews | 18:04 |
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| cp16net | tracking total vs core vs other reviews | 18:05 |
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| pmackinn | o/ | 18:05 |
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| cp16net | that can be helpful to see if we have community support reviewing | 18:06 |
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| cp16net | it looks like we've done some work here but a bit more goto | 18:07 |
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| cp16net | thanks for everyone reviewing! | 18:07 |
| cp16net | its very helpful | 18:07 |
| cp16net | not much else from me on this | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | moving along | 18:08 |
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| cp16net | #topic announcements | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:08 | |
| cp16net | we got the gate issue resolved last week | 18:08 |
| cp16net | after much fun with pip issues | 18:09 |
| cp16net | and there was an issue with the elements | 18:09 |
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| cp16net | thanks for the help from abramley we got it all resolved | 18:10 |
| cp16net | #info fixed gate issues | 18:10 |
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| cp16net | #info trove midcycle meetup is 2 weeks away (feb 9-11) | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-trove-midcycle-rsvp | 18:11 |
| pmackinn | WHAAAAT??? | 18:11 |
| cp16net | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveMitakaSprint | 18:11 |
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| cp16net | pmackinn: i hope thats a joke :-P | 18:11 |
| * pmackinn counts 6 participants officially | 18:12 | |
| * amrith bites his tongue | 18:12 | |
| pmackinn | i aw awaiting news of the marriott rates | 18:12 |
| cp16net | i created the eventbright and i'll get the numbers on that later | 18:12 |
| cp16net | i think its been duplicates of the members on the list | 18:12 |
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| pmackinn | who has flights atm? | 18:13 |
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| amrith | ./ | 18:13 |
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| amrith | sorry, you said flights | 18:13 |
| amrith | I thought you said fights | 18:13 |
| pmackinn | actually 4 rsvp | 18:13 |
| pmackinn | for the live fights | 18:13 |
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| amrith | goody | 18:14 |
| cp16net | please signup if you plan on being there | 18:14 |
| cp16net | it will help with food situation and planning | 18:15 |
| pmackinn | cp16net, +1 | 18:15 |
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| cp16net | a few other announcements i have | 18:15 |
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| cp16net | #info [release news] mitaka-2 was released | 18:16 |
| cp16net | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/releases/mitaka.html#mitaka-trove | 18:16 |
| cp16net | #info [release news] mitaka-3 is planned for March 1-3 | 18:17 |
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| cp16net | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 18:17 |
| cp16net | this means we need the code for the features in asap | 18:17 |
| cp16net | to get reviewed and updated before the rush | 18:17 |
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| cp16net | #info [release news] trove-dashboard was tagged with 6.0.0.0b2 | 18:19 |
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| cp16net | it had no tags before and zigo pointed this out last night | 18:19 |
| cp16net | this version was chosen because trove has been in horizon since havana | 18:20 |
| cp16net | i tagged the head of master with this version last night | 18:20 |
| cp16net | fyi | 18:20 |
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| cp16net | anything i missed? | 18:21 |
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| cp16net | alright well i guess we'll move to open discussion | 18:21 |
| amrith | only other thing I can think of is that zigo has other issues with trove (not dashboard). | 18:21 |
| amrith | and he's reported some bugs on them. | 18:22 |
| cp16net | amrith: yeah i bet its because he is using the same vm to build all the packages across OS | 18:22 |
| cp16net | #topic open discussion | 18:23 |
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| cp16net | anything anyone wants to bring up? | 18:23 |
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| pmackinn | redstack/devstack clean this week? noticed some floating ip weirdness yesterday from a fresh install | 18:23 |
| * pmackinn phishs | 18:24 | |
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| cp16net | i havnt messed with floating ips on devstack so i'm not sure | 18:24 |
| tosky | just a request to push some of the test-related backports on stable/liberty - I see that there are only two core reviewers for the stable branches, so it could be easy to miss | 18:24 |
| amrith | haven't noticed any recently pmackinn | 18:24 |
| amrith | tosky, got some #'s | 18:24 |
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| amrith | you can send them later in #openstack-trove | 18:25 |
| amrith | no need to hold everyone up now | 18:25 |
| amrith | am looking for them | 18:25 |
| cp16net | tosky: yeah there are a few and i think slicknik -1 asking why we were pushing test changes in stable | 18:25 |
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| cp16net | something i noticed another team doing in their meeting was a weekly update topic from everyone | 18:26 |
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| tosky | amrith: thanks; the two you pushed and also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262289/ | 18:27 |
| amrith | I could do one right now if you want ;) | 18:27 |
| cp16net | everyone just gives a 1 sentence of what or where they are with their tasks | 18:27 |
| amrith | cp16net, we need a good bug scrub | 18:27 |
| amrith | I've been doing it adhoc for some days | 18:27 |
| amrith | and there are 261 oldy moldy bugs | 18:27 |
| amrith | and some are no longer relevant | 18:27 |
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| cp16net | i was thinking this would be really helpful with the release coming up | 18:27 |
| amrith | and some important ones are buried in the weeds | 18:27 |
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| amrith | so fair warning to all | 18:28 |
| amrith | I'm going to be running through lp | 18:28 |
| amrith | and posting comments around bugs that have been growing old. | 18:28 |
| amrith | and fixing up status; such as change in-progress if the chagne is abandoned | 18:28 |
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| amrith | But, I'd like people's view on unassigning bugs from people who aren't active in the project any longer. | 18:28 |
| amrith | that's a touchy subject | 18:28 |
| cp16net | amrith: yeah that should be done a little before m-3 release so that we know whats left we can work on in the m-4 time frame | 18:28 |
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| pmackinn | no bug yet, but am dusting off fedora in redstack (f23) in advance of pending mariadb feature set | 18:29 |
| cp16net | amrith: i think if there is no review for the bug up then we dont know what the progress is | 18:29 |
| amrith | pmackinn, there's a bug to get redstack/devstack for trove completely working for fedora | 18:30 |
| amrith | I entered it a while ago | 18:30 |
| amrith | currently assigned to vkmc. | 18:30 |
| amrith | 1419089 | 18:30 |
| pmackinn | "completely" | 18:30 |
| amrith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1419089 | 18:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419089 in Trove "Get redstack working completely with fedora" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc) | 18:30 |
| amrith | you pushed some of the trove-integration stuff | 18:31 |
| amrith | a while ago | 18:31 |
| vkmc | working on that certainly, still hitting a lot of bugs related to hard wired Ubuntu paths | 18:31 |
| vkmc | we are almost there I'm dare to say though | 18:31 |
| amrith | is there a change or set of changes to converge to a complete solution? | 18:32 |
| pmackinn | i think the trove project should be removed from that bug imho | 18:32 |
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| pmackinn | long march | 18:32 |
| cp16net | so my update is the pxc review of grow/shrink(working on getting current networks on instances in the cluster) and root-enable(ready for review). | 18:32 |
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| vkmc | probably a set of changes is going to be needed, I'll submit the ones I have in my queue this week | 18:32 |
| cp16net | that would be great vkmc | 18:33 |
| vkmc | :) | 18:33 |
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| cp16net | if you can squash the changes together for the bug that would be good | 18:33 |
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| vkmc | k k, will do | 18:34 |
| cp16net | unless its across projects then create bugs for them across the projects and link them in lp | 18:34 |
| amrith | #action amrith to chat with pmackinn about removing trove as an affected project from 1419089 | 18:34 |
| cp16net | +cp16net to that convo | 18:35 |
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| amrith | ok, right after this mtg? #openstack-trove? | 18:36 |
| cp16net | oh one thing i forgot to mention there was an ask for a liason for cross-project issues by default its me but curious if anyone else was interested in helping out? | 18:36 |
| cp16net | if you are interested let me know. | 18:36 |
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| tosky | my status: I'm playing with the integration tests, even if more on the liberty branch (but with an eye on mitaka) on RHEL platforms | 18:37 |
| egafford | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons describes the full set of liaisons it's nice to have. | 18:37 |
| amrith | cp16net, was that a per-project issue? | 18:37 |
| amrith | I'm supposed to be one oslo | 18:37 |
| cp16net | there is the cross project effort as well | 18:37 |
| * egafford politely suggests that one person would be hard-pressed to fill all these roles for any one project. | 18:37 | |
| cp16net | #agrees | 18:38 |
| vgnbkr | cp16net, I thought Peter was the cross-project contact. | 18:38 |
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| amrith | actually, I've been the contact for a while now ;) | 18:38 |
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| cp16net | vgnbkr: no this is relatively new | 18:38 |
| amrith | for oslo that is. | 18:38 |
| vgnbkr | cp16net, maybe that was just for the incubator stuff or something | 18:39 |
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| amrith | Ok, timeout! | 18:39 |
| cp16net | if you are interested in helping out this would be helpful! :) | 18:39 |
| amrith | What is this effort you're talking about cp16net ? | 18:39 |
| amrith | egafford sent a link to a page with many liaisons already identified. | 18:39 |
| cp16net | The OpenStack project relies on the cross-project spec liaisons from each participating project to help with coordination and cross-project spec related tasks. See full set of responsibilities The liaison defaults to the PTL, but the PTL can also delegate the responsibilities to someone else on the team by updating this tableː | 18:39 |
| amrith | are you talking about the same thing? | 18:39 |
| cp16net | look at the bottom on the list of liasons | 18:40 |
| cp16net | if interested let me know | 18:40 |
| cp16net | thats all i have | 18:40 |
| dalees | I just wanted to say hi to all. I'm Dale Smith from Catalyst IT and I'm starting to look at existing trove single tenant features and how I can help improve these. (with a view to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1445295). | 18:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1445295 in Trove "Guestagent config leaks rabbit password" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith) | 18:40 |
| amrith | Ok cp16net | 18:40 |
| amrith | that's the SPEC liaison | 18:40 |
| amrith | liaison | 18:40 |
| amrith | specifically cross project specs. | 18:41 |
| amrith | Happy to help with that. | 18:41 |
| cp16net | amrith: sorry yeah thats what i meant | 18:41 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:41 |
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| peterstac | vgnbkr, I'm the API liason (FWIW) | 18:41 |
| cp16net | dalees: welcome and we appreciate your help | 18:41 |
| egafford | Looks like Trove is missing Product WG and Logging WG liaisons as well at the moment. | 18:42 |
| vgnbkr | peterstac, Ah, I knew there was something :-) | 18:42 |
| amrith | And since I'm the guy who started the mail thread that prompted a Sahara/Trove liaison, I'll volunteer for the Trove sie. | 18:42 |
| cp16net | i see amrith was assigned that bug but not sure where he is on that | 18:42 |
| cp16net | so it might be good to chat with him about it | 18:42 |
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| egafford | amrith: o/ | 18:42 |
| cp16net | egafford: it all defaults to me if no one picks it up but yea there are a few openings | 18:42 |
| amrith | cp16net, I had a couple of conversations with Bruno on that bug | 18:42 |
| egafford | cp16net: Indeed; just noting. :) | 18:43 |
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| amrith | and it seemed like there was (at the time) a disconnect between the capabilities of OSLO and what Catalyst wanted to propose. | 18:43 |
| cp16net | true! | 18:43 |
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| amrith | So, one thing at a time. | 18:43 |
| amrith | with your permission cp16net I will add myself as Trove/Sahara liaison | 18:43 |
| amrith | ok? | 18:43 |
| cp16net | sounds good to me | 18:44 |
| amrith | Thx | 18:44 |
| pmackinn | amrith, so many hats? | 18:44 |
| cp16net | but none of them are red... | 18:44 |
| cp16net | :-P | 18:44 |
| amrith | enough to talk through | 18:44 |
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| cp16net | anyone have anything else? | 18:44 |
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| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:44 |
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| peterstac | just a quick question for tosky | 18:45 |
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| peterstac | you go first vgnbkr | 18:45 |
| vgnbkr | OK. | 18:45 |
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| vgnbkr | We've had ongoing issues and misunderstanding with API versioning between the Trove components. | 18:45 |
| vgnbkr | I would like to propose a spec outlining a method for dealing with these issue, but would want some level of buyin before making the effort. | 18:46 |
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| vgnbkr | Do people think it worthwhile formalizing the method for changing APIs? | 18:46 |
| vgnbkr | anyone? ... | 18:47 |
| cp16net | vgnbkr: there is a method to it but its not documented really so it might be helpful to layout the path | 18:47 |
| cp16net | for trove that is | 18:47 |
| amrith | vgnbkr, I think it would be a worthwhile spec and think it makes sense to get some agreement on the approach | 18:48 |
| amrith | before writing the spec. | 18:48 |
| peterstac | vgnbkr, sounds like you're proposing a document not a 'spec' - rihgt? | 18:48 |
| amrith | I think it would be very good to formalize the method for changing the API. | 18:48 |
| vgnbkr | My proposal would basically be that every API destination have a preceeding block comment that it never be changed (the destination). | 18:48 |
| amrith | peterstac, vgnbkr, cp16net ... would a short email to the ML make sense? | 18:48 |
| cp16net | getting an abstract of the details before diving to far in would be good | 18:49 |
| peterstac | I thought the ML was where ideas went to get shot down ... ;) | 18:49 |
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| amrith | vgnbkr, that proposal seems to make a lot of sense | 18:50 |
| amrith | the block comment | 18:50 |
| cp16net | vgnbkr: write up an abstract on the process you envision and we can discuss | 18:50 |
| vgnbkr | Then a method for how a new API destination would be named to show its relationship to the previous version (say reset(foo) => resetMOD2(foo, bar)). | 18:50 |
| cp16net | we could bring it up next meeting | 18:51 |
| vgnbkr | I'm not doing to spend the time writing a document if the basic idea isn't what people are looking to do. | 18:51 |
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| cp16net | i think there is some value to it | 18:51 |
| amrith | if we go that route vgnbkr we could also add a test that would check the method signature and barf it was changed ;) | 18:51 |
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| vgnbkr | amrith, yes, I was going to propose that as well. | 18:52 |
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| amrith | I think it is a good thing to do vgnbkr | 18:52 |
| cp16net | i agree | 18:52 |
| amrith | and if I can help write it or the spec, you know where to find me. | 18:52 |
| cp16net | alright peterstac had something/ | 18:52 |
| vgnbkr | And you agree with the basic idea of naming methods (reset(foo) => resetMOD2(foo, bar))? | 18:53 |
| amrith | devil meet details | 18:53 |
| vgnbkr | (of course, the MOD2 part is open to discussion) | 18:53 |
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| cp16net | makes sense | 18:53 |
| vgnbkr | OK, I'll write something up. A Wiki doc rather than a spec, then? | 18:54 |
| peterstac | I just had a question for tosky (if vgnbkr is done ;) ) | 18:54 |
| tosky | peterstac: sure :) | 18:54 |
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| vgnbkr | go ahead | 18:54 |
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| peterstac | tosky, you're trying to get some tests backported to liberty, but from what I can see, these are all 'scenario' tests | 18:55 |
| tosky | peterstac: yes, they are | 18:55 |
| peterstac | These tests don't run in the gate yet (never have) and definitely weren't stable in liberty | 18:56 |
| peterstac | (some aren't stable yet in mitaka) | 18:56 |
| cp16net | peterstac: tru! | 18:56 |
| tosky | peterstac: I understand that, but they were partially backported already; with the few missing bits, they should be able to work properly in a still-supported branch | 18:56 |
| peterstac | just curious what the motivation is | 18:56 |
| peterstac | but that's my point - they don't run in the stable branches - never have | 18:57 |
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| peterstac | (still don't, in fact) | 18:57 |
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| cp16net | yeah they were a work in progress in the last stable branches | 18:58 |
| tosky | yes, but from the discussion on the channel it seemed that at least with two backports (the one going in now) at least they were not totally broken | 18:58 |
| tosky | and from my testing I can say that they are mostly working | 18:58 |
| cp16net | the int-tests that we have that tested mysql thoroughly were stable | 18:58 |
| tosky | right, but between spending time with the old ones and adapt them to mariadb vs using the new ones, I invested my time in the new one | 18:59 |
| tosky | hopefully it's something that will be visible on RDO soon(ish) | 18:59 |
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| peterstac | tosky, ok, just curious (since we have limited bandwidth and lots of stuff to do for mitaka) | 19:00 |
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| tosky | I was going to ask for few more small backports (of patches I did) but it the direction is to reduce their usage, I won't ask for that | 19:00 |
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| amrith | are we there yet? | 19:01 |
| peterstac | tosky, you've submitted changesets for the scenario tests? (must have missed them - will go look) | 19:01 |
| peterstac | oops - out of time ... | 19:01 |
| cp16net | alright times up | 19:02 |
| amrith | cp16net, pmackinn regroup in #openstack-trove? | 19:02 |
| cp16net | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss L7 feature (and review) timeline re: Mitaka (sbalukoff) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 19:02:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-01-27-18.00.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-01-27-18.00.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2016/trove.2016-01-27-18.00.log.html | 19:02 |
| cp16net | thanks everyone | 19:02 |
| cp16net | yeah | 19:02 |
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| vkmc | thanks o/ | 19:05 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 20:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| fnaval | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| ajmiller | hi | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Welcome back fnaval | 20:00 |
| bana_k | hello | 20:00 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:00 |
| fnaval | thanks johnsom | 20:00 |
| minwang2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Sorry we missed you at the mid-cycle | 20:00 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| fnaval | ah yeah just be a couple days unfortunately - looks like lots of testing tasks to do | 20:01 |
| xgerman | johnsom +1 | 20:01 |
| xgerman | fnaval yep — | 20:01 |
| sbalukoff | Greetings, folks! | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Ok, we have some patches that are still in need of review. These are slowing folks down or have impact on multiple patches, so reviews are needed: | 20:01 |
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| johnsom | Updates the failover flow for active/standby | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/253724 | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Shared pools support | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/256369 | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Add spec for active-active | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/234639 | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Horizon panels | 20:02 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard+status:open | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Sorry I didn't get to the active/standby scenarios I wanted to test yet. I should still be able to do that this week. | 20:02 |
| johnsom | Lots of good work happening on the horizon panels | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | +1 | 20:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 20:02 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Thanks! It touches a number of things and I think there are some patches that could conflict | 20:03 |
| johnsom | So, getting it landed sooner is good for all | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | Thanks to those of you who've reviewed the shared pools stuff so far! (I'm really hoping to get a +2 here soonish. ;) ) | 20:03 |
| TrevorV | johnsom my bug fix has conflicts with it, so whoever's lands first... :P | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yep, it's another big, important patch (the active-standby one) | 20:03 |
| johnsom | Anyway, wanted to highlight those. Any other announcements? | 20:04 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:04 |
| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:04 | |
| sbalukoff | Things are going well with the shared pools stuff. Found a couple bugs thanks to testers and those have been patched. | 20:05 |
| TrevorV | I have a couple reviews that need some attention. They're bug-fixes from the mid-cycle that I was supposed to complete | 20:05 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267137 | 20:05 |
| minwang2 | Implements: blueprint anti-affinity https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272344/2 | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Ok, so I have been trying to get through the review backlog, but slowed down by a cold I picked up between the two mid-cycles and preparing for an internal Octavia security review. | 20:05 |
| minwang2 | still wip | 20:05 |
| TrevorV | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271512 | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | As a reminder, this is where I'm tracking progress for the L7 work (that needs to get in before feature freeze. ;) ) | 20:05 |
| sbalukoff | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-l7-todo-list | 20:05 |
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| fnaval | I'm working on setting up octavia Tempest scenario test | 20:06 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/172199 | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | I'm currently looking through the first L7 review, and working my way up the chain sbalukoff | 20:06 |
| rm_work | yeah, I have a whole browser window just full of reviews I need to look at for Octavia, but I have an internal release going out next week so I've been a bit distracted :( testing is wrapping up so I'll try to get to those today or tomorrow | 20:06 |
| TrevorV | Then I'll probably test them by deploying them as you suggested | 20:06 |
| sbalukoff | fnaval: Thanks! That's going to be really important, I think. :) | 20:06 |
| fnaval | thanks for the quick review turnaround sbalukoff and phil! | 20:06 |
| xgerman | I have been working on getting all those enterprise features in… trying to deploy on a real cloud ;-) | 20:07 |
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| sbalukoff | xgerman: Great! | 20:07 |
| johnsom | fnaval Yes, thank you. I really hope we can get back on track with the testing. We just need to get things setup and a few examples to get other folks involved. | 20:07 |
| minwang2 | +1 | 20:07 |
| fnaval | johnsom: yep - will hopefully be full steam ahead by next week | 20:07 |
| xgerman | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271476/ will be hot again once I fix it up | 20:07 |
| xgerman | and Aish has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272861/ which needs some attention | 20:08 |
| johnsom | I am going to skip the bug review today as we all have some much going on with reviews and such. | 20:08 |
| bana_k | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1534223 | 20:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534223 in octavia "compile_amphora_details hardcodes topology as consts.TOPOLOGY_SINGLE" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Banashankar (bkalebe) | 20:08 |
| xgerman | and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272747/ | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Also, I think I am getting closer to fixing the bug where we are building the amp image for the api tests. So, that will speed them up. | 20:09 |
| bana_k | was working on it but I need to see how handle the pre spawned AMPs in case of topology change | 20:09 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: Yay! | 20:09 |
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| sbalukoff | Wow, it actually sounds like this group is trucking along nicely instead of our usual slacker pace. ;) | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Great progress folks. | 20:10 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:10 | |
| johnsom | Any other topics folks would like to discuss? | 20:10 |
| xgerman | another plug for alpine linux | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | What is alpine linux? | 20:11 |
| johnsom | I could mention the Kosmos mid-cycle. We started landing some code. It's good to get that going. | 20:11 |
| xgerman | #link http://www.alpinelinux.org | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Sweet! | 20:11 |
| xgerman | might be good for light weight devstack amphora | 20:11 |
| xgerman | johnsom +1 | 20:11 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Oh? And possibly a lightweight production one as well? | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Intel's clear linux could be interesting too. | 20:12 |
| xgerman | yeah, wish I had the cycles to play around with that | 20:12 |
| sbalukoff | Definitely worth considering anything that reduces the footprint of our amphorae. | 20:12 |
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| SamYaple | +1 plug for alpine | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Yeah, sadly Ubunutu's cloud image is a big bloated | 20:12 |
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| xgerman | sbalukoff +1 | 20:12 |
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| xgerman | it seems we are done even before blogan woke up... | 20:13 |
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| sbalukoff | Wow, 14 minute meeting? Excellent! | 20:14 |
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| johnsom | Ok, well, if there aren't any other hot topics..... Please try to make time for reviews! | 20:14 |
| blogan | oh god | 20:14 |
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| blogan | i need meetingbot to just ping me from now on when these meetings start | 20:14 |
| xgerman | lol | 20:14 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Did you have something to discuss? | 20:14 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: nope nothing | 20:14 |
| johnsom | Maybe I will be motivated to ping people... | 20:15 |
| TrevorV | johnsom were you saying you're not going to review the bug-fixes I mentioned due to other priorities? Just curious if I read that right above, not going to object | 20:15 |
| johnsom | Before it starts though, so you can't pad your attendance records... grin | 20:15 |
| blogan | johnsom: are you meetingbot incarnate? | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | Cool. I can get back to running this scenario test in a loop hoping to trigger that damned session_persistence intermittent bug... | 20:15 |
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| evgenyf | hi | 20:15 |
| xgerman | hi | 20:15 |
| minwang2 | hi | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | hi! | 20:15 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: with your proposed fix for it or just tryign to get it to show up normally? | 20:15 |
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| johnsom | TrevorV I'm not saying I *won't* just given the backlog and this security review, not sure how far I can get this week. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Trying to reproduce the error reliably before I write the fix for it. | 20:16 |
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| TrevorV | johnsom yeah that' | 20:16 |
| evgenyf | Just connected, guys. Did you already discussed L7? | 20:16 |
| TrevorV | that's what I assumed, just a deprioritization | 20:16 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: okay good, of course not good for you bc those are PITA | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: If that doesn't work locally, I'll just start taking shots in the dark at gerrit. :P | 20:16 |
| johnsom | I still owe sbalukoff the rest of the reviews I have started on his stuff. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | (On a separate review) | 20:16 |
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| blogan | sbalukoff: gerrit deserves dark shots | 20:16 |
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| sbalukoff | Indeed! | 20:17 |
| blogan | maybe haproxy has a bug! | 20:17 |
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| xgerman | also I should mention I submitted an Octavia lab talk. Ping me if you like to help | 20:17 |
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| johnsom | evgenyf We just touched on the need for reviews. Did you have another topic? | 20:17 |
| rm_work | xgerman: I can probably help again | 20:18 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: Unlikely, though it has occurred to me that it is perhaps the nature in which we're restarting it... in which case a delay of 1 second at opportune moments during that test would fix the error. | 20:18 |
| xgerman | coolio | 20:18 |
| rm_work | though I can't be in charge of the USBs again because I will be on PTO the week before the summit O_o | 20:18 |
| evgenyf | no, just wanted to say that I commited L7 with Stephen's review issues | 20:18 |
| evgenyf | and I'm very close to finish the CLI stuff for L7 | 20:19 |
| evgenyf | Next: tempest | 20:19 |
| johnsom | evgenyf Excellent! | 20:19 |
| rm_work | evgenyf: ah I need to check with you (maybe after the meeting) about the concerns you had on the TLS refactoring stuff that we ended up merging | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: Cool! If you can put pressure on whoever is appropriate to get the Neutron-LBaaS shared pool patch merged, that will bring us closer to being able to merge your L7 review. | 20:19 |
| xgerman | rm_work I think we will avoid usb sticks (I hope) | 20:19 |
| rm_work | kk | 20:19 |
| evgenyf | will try | 20:19 |
| evgenyf | I have posted some question on L7 review regarding comparison types | 20:20 |
| xgerman | rm_work added you | 20:21 |
| evgenyf | will appreaciate your opinion, and BTW, I added invert option | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: Great! I'll try to respond to your question soon. | 20:21 |
| evgenyf | Thanks! | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Ok. If there isn't anything else I will give you all 38 minutes to work on reviews... grin | 20:21 |
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| sbalukoff | Danke! | 20:22 |
| evgenyf | got some reviews from Akihiro on CLIE, working on it | 20:22 |
| evgenyf | CLI* | 20:22 |
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| sbalukoff | Yep, he's commented on my shared pools CLI review as well. | 20:22 |
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| evgenyf | Yeah, many similar comments ) | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Thanks! | 20:23 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss L7 feature (and review) timeline re: Mitaka (sbalukoff) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 20:23:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-01-27-20.00.html | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-01-27-20.00.txt | 20:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-01-27-20.00.log.html | 20:23 |
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| fnaval | thanks everybody! | 20:24 |
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