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| shaohe_feng | hi baoli | 12:57 |
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| baoli | shaohe_feng: Hi | 12:58 |
| shaohe_feng | how are you? | 12:58 |
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| baoli | shaohe_feng: good, thanks. | 12:59 |
| ndipanov | hey folks | 12:59 |
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| ndipanov | should we start? | 13:00 |
| shaohe_feng | hi ndipanov | 13:00 |
| ndipanov | hi shaohe_feng | 13:00 |
| baoli | ndipanov: Hi | 13:00 |
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| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: how are you. | 13:00 |
| lbelivea | hi | 13:00 |
| ndipanov | can | 13:01 |
| ndipanov | 't complain really :) | 13:01 |
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| shaohe_feng | good | 13:01 |
| ndipanov | ok let's rnr | 13:01 |
| ndipanov | #startmeeting sriov | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 13:02:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ndipanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:02 |
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| ndipanov | so I had 2 things in mind for today | 13:02 |
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| ndipanov | look at the specs that are outstanding seeing that the freeze is close | 13:03 |
| ndipanov | look at the patches currently up for review | 13:03 |
| lbelivea | sounds good | 13:03 |
| ndipanov | (and I have to say that due to some internal stuff I was doing last 2 weeks I was not reviewing as much as I should have) | 13:03 |
| ndipanov | but that should improve this week | 13:03 |
| ndipanov | and #3 if we have time - re-visit the neutron<-> nova interactions | 13:04 |
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| vladikr | hi everyone | 13:04 |
| ndipanov | ok so specs that need love | 13:04 |
| ndipanov | hi vladikr - saw your patches - queued them for this afternoon with coffee and cake | 13:05 |
| lbelivea | do we have a list of the specs that we are interested in ? | 13:05 |
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| ndipanov | lbelivea, we should do | 13:05 |
| * ndipanov digs | 13:05 | |
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| ndipanov | lbelivea, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 13:06 |
| vladikr | ndipanov, :) thanks, it's a draft, going to add tests today and still having problems with my sriov card, so still didn't tests the whole thing | 13:06 |
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| ndipanov | and then scroll down to SR-IOV subteam | 13:06 |
| lbelivea | got it | 13:06 |
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| moshele | hi | 13:06 |
| ndipanov | #info priorities tracking etherpad has stuff that we should be looking at | 13:06 |
| ndipanov | hi moshele | 13:06 |
| vladikr | moshele, Hi | 13:07 |
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| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: can you have a look at this spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910/ | 13:07 |
| ndipanov | you seem to have a -1 from baoli | 13:08 |
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| shaohe_feng | baoli: hi | 13:08 |
| baoli | shaohe_feng: I saw your comments, I think that You just need to clarify in the text. | 13:08 |
| shaohe_feng | baoli: OK. I need need to update the spec? | 13:09 |
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| ndipanov | shaohe_feng, yeah | 13:09 |
| ndipanov | so after that - I am +1 on it | 13:10 |
| ndipanov | shaohe_feng, do you already have some code ready? | 13:10 |
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| ndipanov | once you upload a fixed version - I can just go and ping john (or you can do it too) and he'll likely approve it | 13:11 |
| baoli | shaohe_feng: will +1. | 13:11 |
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| ndipanov | as this was discussed at the summit | 13:11 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^ | 13:11 |
| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: just  prototype long time ago . If the spec approve, I will start the code. | 13:11 |
| ndipanov | ok makes sense | 13:12 |
| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: thank you. | 13:12 |
| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: let me do ti now. | 13:12 |
| ndipanov | ok so there are 2 more that might be interesting to review | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195662/ | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | this one is not related only to pci | 13:13 |
| ndipanov | but can be quite useful | 13:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: shaohe_feng: yeah, lets get the -1 addressed, then it should pop higher up my list | 13:14 |
| ndipanov | thanks johnthetubaguy ! | 13:14 |
| lbelivea | ndipanov: Gonna review it later today | 13:14 |
| ndipanov | baoli, would you mind taking a look too | 13:14 |
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| baoli | ndipanov, sure | 13:15 |
| baoli | ndipanov, will take a look | 13:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: once you folks are all +1 on these specs, do ping me and I will try jump on those quickly, they all sound like useful things | 13:15 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, awesome - will probably ping you later today about 2 of them | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | so one more that seems to have reached some consensus is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199488/ | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | so we can add that one to the list of "ready for wider review too" | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | cool | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | so is there something we missed | 13:16 |
| ndipanov | ? | 13:16 |
| lbelivea | I have 3 patches in the pipeline that are ready for review | 13:17 |
| lbelivea | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216049/ | 13:17 |
| lbelivea | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242555/2 | 13:17 |
| lbelivea | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/9 | 13:17 |
| ndipanov | ok that's the next part if there are no more specs questions | 13:17 |
| vladikr | ndipanov, there is this one as well : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239875/ | 13:18 |
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| ndipanov | vladikr, ah right - completely forgot about that one as I got sucked into a different thing recently | 13:18 |
| lbelivea | vladikr: Going to take some time today to review it as well | 13:18 |
| moshele | you are depended on this neutron patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246923/ | 13:19 |
| vladikr | ndipanov, I've missed moshes comments on it though | 13:19 |
| ndipanov | seems like there is some questions on it by moshele | 13:19 |
| vladikr | moshele, yeah, will update it | 13:19 |
| ndipanov | will review that one today as well and add it to the therpad (with a line over it since it's pending update) | 13:19 |
| vladikr | thanks | 13:20 |
| ndipanov | ok so now onto patches | 13:21 |
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| ndipanov | first - I'd like to talk about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227160/ | 13:21 |
| moshele | libvirt fix for pf with no VF https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2015-November/msg00934.html | 13:22 |
| moshele | https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2015-November/msg00960.html | 13:22 |
| ndipanov | aaahhhh ok | 13:22 |
| moshele | they will also add max VF in the xml | 13:22 |
| lbelivea | mosele: nice ! | 13:22 |
| ndipanov | that is pretty cool | 13:23 |
| ndipanov | however I feel we want to work around it until they do int he libvirt driver | 13:23 |
| ndipanov | though that may not be so easy | 13:23 |
| baoli | ndipanov, maybe the same method (is_physical_function) be called from inside the libvirt driver to determine if a device is a PF? | 13:24 |
| ndipanov | baoli, was about to say | 13:24 |
| ndipanov | that means rootwrap call for every pci device | 13:24 |
| baoli | ndipanov, we are thinking the same, then. | 13:24 |
| ndipanov | so not really ideal | 13:25 |
| ndipanov | :/ | 13:25 |
| moshele | you want me to update the patch with this change | 13:25 |
| moshele | ? | 13:26 |
| ndipanov | moshele, thinking... | 13:26 |
| ndipanov | let me comment on the patch after the meeting | 13:26 |
| baoli | ndipanov: the device FS can be read by anybody, right? Do we need rootwrap for it? | 13:26 |
| moshele | sure I will update the comments the but that it will be fixed in libvirt | 13:26 |
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| ndipanov | baoli, right we can get away without it | 13:27 |
| moshele | s/but/bug | 13:27 |
| ndipanov | moshele, so yeah go that route and add a comment | 13:28 |
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| moshele | ok cool | 13:28 |
| ndipanov | anything else? | 13:29 |
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| moshele | I have this simple patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245108/ | 13:30 |
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| lbelivea | ndipanov: All the patches I have mentionned above, they have been in the pipeline for quite a while, some of them were reviewed by core | 13:31 |
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| ndipanov | moshele, +2 | 13:31 |
| ndipanov | lbelivea, ok let me lok | 13:31 |
| ndipanov | lbelivea, so this one is a bit tricky I can't review it now but will look asap https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/ | 13:32 |
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| baoli | lbelivea: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/9. Didn't get a chance to test the patch. But my concern about it is to save the pci requrest id in the binding profile. | 13:33 |
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| lbelivea | baoli: What is your concern ? I need to know more so that I can address your concerns. | 13:34 |
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| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: baoli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139910 | 13:34 |
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| ndipanov | shaohe_feng, ok cool let me look | 13:35 |
| shaohe_feng | ndipanov: thank you. | 13:35 |
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| baoli | lbelivea: I put it in comments, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573/6/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py. | 13:36 |
| ndipanov | shaohe_feng, +1 | 13:36 |
| shaohe_feng | thank you. | 13:36 |
| ndipanov | let's get baoli to like it too and then I'm sure john will be happy to +2 it | 13:37 |
| ndipanov | and then onto teh codez | 13:37 |
| shaohe_feng | great. | 13:37 |
| shaohe_feng | baoli: ^ | 13:37 |
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| baoli | shaohe_feng: looks good. | 13:38 |
| shaohe_feng | baoli: thank you. | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | so lbelivea I will look at your patches later today too | 13:39 |
| baoli | shaohe_feng: you are welcome | 13:39 |
| lbelivea | ndipanov: thanks | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | and then we can take it from there | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | unless you have some concrete questions | 13:39 |
| ndipanov | ok so ... some progress has been made :) | 13:40 |
| ndipanov | so last thing I was going to mention the QoS thing and scheduling around it | 13:41 |
| ndipanov | I've spoken to some people about it | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | not necessarily representative of the Neutron community :) | 13:42 |
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| ndipanov | but "in the know" | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | and also spent some time looking at it myself | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | there are several ways to accomplish it | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | none of them particularly easy :) | 13:42 |
| ndipanov | so the bottom line is that someone will have to pick it up and try to figure it out. | 13:44 |
| ndipanov | It's unlikely to be me this cycle though | 13:44 |
| moshele | yes that what ajo said as well also the scheduler is going to be refactor in this cycle | 13:45 |
| ndipanov | yeah well I am not a believer in "that's a good idea, but you have to wait until we do this massive refactoring here" | 13:45 |
| ndipanov | also the scheduler folks have been "refactoring" it for several cycles now | 13:46 |
| ndipanov | imho - if we have someone interested enough to pony up developer time to solve it | 13:46 |
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| ndipanov | they shouldn't be blocked on scheduler refactoring - though they should work with the team doing it of course | 13:47 |
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| ndipanov | but I don't see any serious specs being proposed around it sooo | 13:47 |
| ndipanov | anywho | 13:49 |
| ndipanov | if that's all we had - onto reviewing stuff (for me at least) and let's call it a meeting | 13:49 |
| ndipanov | ah one more thing lbelivea | 13:50 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239123/2 | 13:50 |
| ndipanov | why do we need a spec for this exactly? | 13:50 |
| ndipanov | this is a bugfix! | 13:51 |
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| lbelivea | ndipanov: I don't think so, our initial intent was to bring all the fixes for cold migration under the same umbrella | 13:51 |
| lbelivea | ndipanov: I think we can just focus on bugs/tickets | 13:52 |
| ndipanov | lbelivea, so you are saying we don't need it right? | 13:52 |
| ndipanov | I am interested in having that fixed too - and it is way more likely to get done if we can not block on the nova process here | 13:52 |
| lbelivea | ndipanov: yeap, I can put it in "abandoned" | 13:52 |
| ndipanov | yes please | 13:53 |
| ndipanov | and open relevant bugs | 13:53 |
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| lbelivea | ndipanov: agreed, we have customers that uses our patches for supporting cold migration with PF and VF passthrough, trying to help the community and push those fixes :) | 13:54 |
| moshele | we already have a bug for resize https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1368201 | 13:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1368201 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resize with PCI devices doesn't work" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Yongli He (yongli-he) | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | moshele, excellent | 13:54 |
| ndipanov | so I fixed some of that borkedness around NUMA/CPU pinning last cycle | 13:54 |
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| ndipanov | but pci devices use completely different code paths sadly | 13:55 |
| lbelivea | moshele: Yes this is similar, but my patches focus on migration, this bug is a bit different where a different number of PCI devices needs to be taken care of during the resize | 13:55 |
| ndipanov | the fixes also don't require db changes | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | I think | 13:55 |
| ndipanov | so that makes it easier | 13:55 |
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| ndipanov | anyway - we're hitting the top of the hour almost so let's get 5 minutes back for coffee | 13:56 |
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| ndipanov | lbelivea, I'll follow up with you on IRC about the migration fixes and patche reviews | 13:57 |
| lbelivea | ndipanov: perfect | 13:57 |
| ndipanov | good meeting everyone - progress is unstoppable ! :) | 13:57 |
| ndipanov | #endmeeting sriov | 13:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 13:57:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2015/sriov.2015-11-24-13.02.html | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2015/sriov.2015-11-24-13.02.txt | 13:57 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2015/sriov.2015-11-24-13.02.log.html | 13:57 |
| moshele | bye | 13:58 |
| lbelivea | bye guys | 13:58 |
| shaohe_feng | bye. | 13:58 |
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| dprince | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:01 |
| tremble | o/ | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 14:01:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dprince. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:01 |
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| adarazs | hello o/ | 14:01 |
| derekh | hi all | 14:02 |
| matbu | \o | 14:02 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:02 |
| apetrich | o| | 14:02 |
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| shardy | o/ | 14:02 |
| akrivoka | hiya \o | 14:03 |
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| dprince | hello everyone | 14:03 |
| dprince | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| dprince | * bugs | 14:03 |
| dprince | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:03 |
| dprince | * CI | 14:03 |
| dprince | * Specs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
| dprince | * Review Priorities: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-review-priorities | 14:03 |
| dprince | * one off agenda items | 14:03 |
| dprince | * open discussion | 14:03 |
| dprince | anything else to add to the agenda this week? | 14:04 |
| * dprince will try to make sure we get to open discussion sooner this week | 14:04 | |
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| shardy | dprince: I added a one-off item to the wiki | 14:04 |
| shardy | re stable branch approval process | 14:04 |
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| dprince | * Stable branch approval policy (shardy) | 14:04 |
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| dprince | shardy: ack, sorry missed it. (wiki is confusing sometimes) | 14:05 |
| shardy | dprince: np :) | 14:05 |
| dprince | okay, lets go | 14:05 |
| dprince | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
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| dprince | looks like we had a breakage or two but things were fixed quickly last week | 14:06 |
| dprince | anything to bring up of note? | 14:07 |
| eggmaster | o/ | 14:07 |
| dtantsur | please don't use 'packagename.openstack.common' outside of | 14:07 |
| dtantsur | packagename | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | :) | 14:08 |
| dprince | dtantsur: ack, we fixed that in tripleoclient this week | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | yeah, just bringing visibility for people | 14:08 |
| dprince | cool. lets move on... people can chime in later if needed on things | 14:09 |
| dprince | #topic Stable branch approval policy | 14:09 |
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| dprince | shardy: you want to drive this one? | 14:09 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Gerrit | 14:09 |
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| shardy | So, I wanted to suggest we (within common-sense) adopt the normal stable branch process, where for simple backports, one reviewer is enough, if the proposer is also a core on the the project | 14:10 |
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| shardy | e.g if it's just a simple clean backport | 14:10 |
| dprince | shardy: makes sense to me, ++ | 14:10 |
| derekh | seems sane | 14:10 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:11 |
| shardy | the CI still isn't quite there, but when it is, I'd like to make the backport process as low overhead as possible ;) | 14:11 |
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| slagle | sounds good to me | 14:12 |
| bnemec | +1 | 14:12 |
| shardy | Ok then, that is all, thanks! | 14:13 |
| slagle | assuming the masterpatch is already merged | 14:13 |
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| shardy | slagle: yup | 14:13 |
| slagle | ok :) | 14:13 |
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| shardy | and anything with conflicts should probably have more than one reviewer ideally | 14:13 |
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| dprince | anything else this week related to stable branches, etc? | 14:14 |
| shardy | e.g leave the Conflicts: line in the commit message | 14:14 |
| dprince | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects releases or stable backports (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:14 | |
| dprince | very similar to what shardy was just speaking about... | 14:14 |
| shardy | dprince: no, other than sorry I still don't have the CI working, it's nearly there... | 14:14 |
| slagle | i released os-cloud-config yesterday to address the blocking issue | 14:15 |
| slagle | the issue being the ironicclient import | 14:15 |
| dprince | slagle: this was the openstack.common exception issue? | 14:15 |
| slagle | yea | 14:15 |
| dprince | cool | 14:15 |
| dprince | okay, I think we are good here then | 14:16 |
| dprince | #topic CI | 14:16 |
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| dtantsur | CI question: do you folks plan on enabling tripleo-ci for inspector and IPA? | 14:17 |
| dprince | dtantsur: you mean to actually run on those projects? | 14:17 |
| dtantsur | yep | 14:17 |
| * derekh has nothing much on CI this week, spending time elsewhere lately | 14:17 | |
| dprince | dtantsur: we could I guess. probably not a bad idea | 14:18 |
| derekh | dtantsur: My view would be we should if they agree to treat it as voting CI | 14:18 |
| dtantsur | derekh, voting = as it is now? because it doesn't give V-1 now anywhere | 14:19 |
| dtantsur | also do we have something on ironic as well? | 14:19 |
| derekh | dtantsur: in tripleo we don't (unless there is a good reason) approve unless we got passing CI | 14:20 |
| derekh | dtantsur: same thing | 14:20 |
| derekh | with ironic | 14:20 |
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| dtantsur | could be a good thing to bring to the next meeting | 14:20 |
| dtantsur | I remember tripleo-ci was pretty useful on ironic some time ago.. | 14:20 |
| derekh | if we add our job to ironic then they must not merge without a tripleo pass | 14:20 |
| * bnemec still wants tripleo-ci to actually vote | 14:20 | |
| dtantsur | I guess we could use standard first non-voting then voting procedure | 14:21 |
| derekh | back when they had it (and fair enough it was unreliable), I got the sense people didn't actually look at the results much | 14:21 |
| dtantsur | it was really unreliable ;) | 14:21 |
| dtantsur | if we see it ususally passing, we're going to pay attention | 14:22 |
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| derekh | dtantsur: yes but most of the time it was unreliable BECAUSE people were merging breaking changes | 14:22 |
| adarazs | I would like to have some opinion about the khaleesi based gate for tripleo projects that I'm working on. | 14:22 |
| dtantsur | yeah, we're also to blame, I admit | 14:22 |
| derekh | dtantsur: then we had to have a broken job for 3 days while we waited to get something reverted | 14:23 |
| adarazs | 1) should it build packages on the fly with delorean or just copy the code in place? is there a preference? | 14:23 |
| adarazs | 2) what kind of validation would you like to see? tempest? or just something more quick and simple? | 14:23 |
| derekh | dtantsur: anyways it wasn't just ironic, there are plenty of examples to go around | 14:23 |
| dtantsur | derekh, fast-forwarding reverts is something we can do for ironic and IPA, and I can guarantee it for inspector ;) | 14:23 |
| dprince | adarazs: would you mind sending an email to introduce this concept and ask these questions? | 14:23 |
| adarazs | dprince: all right. | 14:23 |
| derekh | dtantsur: so to answer your first question I'm all for adding it back, as long as people don't ignore it | 14:24 |
| * dtantsur have not heard about khaleesi based gate | 14:24 | |
| dtantsur | derekh, mind bringing it to the next ironic meeting? | 14:24 |
| slagle | i think it's worth trying as long as the intent is for the job to eventually become voting | 14:24 |
| adarazs | dtantsur: they don't exist (upstream) yet. but we rely on them for RDO. | 14:24 |
| dprince | adarazs: cool. good questions just could potentially consume all of our meeting time. | 14:24 |
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| derekh | dtantsur: sure will do, | 14:24 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 14:24 |
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| shardy | adarazs: I think less duplication of effort between upstream/downstream CI is a great idea, a mail with details of your plan would be excellent | 14:25 |
| shardy | e.g to openstack-dev | 14:25 |
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| dprince | shardy: yes, thanks for clarifying that | 14:25 |
| adarazs | shardy, dprince: ack, I will explain myself in email better. :) | 14:25 |
| dprince | okay, sounds like we might be getting back into some Ironic CI jobs... | 14:26 |
| * derekh will talk to the heat folks also | 14:26 | |
| dprince | cool. | 14:26 |
| dprince | #topic Specs | 14:27 |
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| dprince | I would ask for feedback on the composable roles stuff again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245804/ | 14:27 |
| shardy | derekh: +1 for heat tripleo CI, we can bring it up at the heat meeting tho | 14:28 |
| bnemec | Crud, I haven't reviewed any specs lately. :-( | 14:28 |
| derekh | shardy: ack | 14:28 |
| dprince | I'm keen to start knocking this stuff out soon... because we already have scaling issues | 14:28 |
| dprince | any other specs stuff? | 14:30 |
| dprince | I would really like to create a "split stack" spec too | 14:30 |
| dprince | or perhaps co-author one w/ someone | 14:31 |
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| dprince | the idea of splitting the stack is appealing for several reasons: one of them being potentially huge for CI in that we could run overcloud provisioning jobs on normal infra hardware | 14:31 |
| gfidente | dprince, "split stack" is about using external resources? | 14:31 |
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| dprince | i.e. running just a "heat overcloud-configuration" stack on normal cloud based servers... skipping the Ironic bit | 14:32 |
| jistr | one stack for hw, 2nd stack for config? | 14:32 |
| dprince | jistr: yes | 14:32 |
| dprince | gfidente: using external resources is part of it, yes | 14:32 |
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| dprince | to me... the clean split for a potential faster running CI job, that could run on normal infra hardware is the most appealing part of this | 14:33 |
| slagle | dprince: are the servers known to nova? or not known to nova at all? | 14:33 |
| slagle | same question for heat | 14:33 |
| dprince | slagle: we could try both, although probably not known | 14:34 |
| dprince | slagle: heat would use a mocked server I think | 14:34 |
| slagle | ok | 14:34 |
| shardy | slagle: I think it has to be the dummy server approach atm, because the external_resource stuff hasn't yet landed in heat | 14:34 |
| dprince | anyways, just wanted to highlight this idea which we spoke of at the summit. | 14:34 |
| slagle | the "not known" use case is what i was going for with the deployed server template patch i put up | 14:34 |
| shardy | slagle: I can see if we can get that moving again tho | 14:34 |
| dprince | slagle: sure, that may be the first step if we get that working | 14:35 |
| slagle | shardy: honestly, the case of the servers already being known to nova isn't as interesting to me personally | 14:35 |
| shardy | I think asalkeld may have moved on to other things, so I can take a look at it if we need it | 14:35 |
| slagle | i want the option of not having to "nova boot" anything | 14:35 |
| shardy | slagle: ack, we can just pass the ID's and dummy them then | 14:35 |
| slagle | that's the bit i like | 14:35 |
| dprince | slagle: yes, that is what we all want I think | 14:35 |
| slagle | dprince: definitely agree splitting the stack would make all of this easier | 14:36 |
| shardy | slagle: I think all we need is a unique identifier per server, for the SoftwareDeployment we don't need the servers to be known to nova | 14:36 |
| shardy | (as you've already proved IIRC?) | 14:36 |
| slagle | shardy: yea, my patch actually worked | 14:36 |
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| shardy | slagle: Cool, that's the proof-of-concept then :) | 14:37 |
| dprince | okay, perhaps lets move on for now. Maybe a few of us can continue to explore the split stack idea soon then | 14:38 |
| dprince | #topic review priorites | 14:38 |
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| slagle | my ultimate goal here was/is to use Heat to configure the undercloud, w/o having to nova boot the undercloud | 14:38 |
| dprince | slagle: sure, what I'm talking about is quite different with the overcloud, but the first step is the same I think | 14:39 |
| gfidente | slagle, oh the chicken/egg problem which initially forced tripleo to the seed | 14:39 |
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| slagle | yea :), anyway, we can move on :) | 14:39 |
| dprince | anyways, any reviews to highlight this week? | 14:39 |
| * dprince thinks we might should skip this section and just let people bring things up in open discussion again | 14:40 | |
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| * bnemec would love to get undercloud ssl merged | 14:41 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221885/ | 14:41 |
| bnemec | We've been using essentially this downstream for quite a while now. | 14:41 |
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| slagle | i'll have another look | 14:42 |
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| * gfidente starred | 14:42 | |
| slagle | once we get it all merged (with the overcloud too), are we going to switch at least 1 ci job over to use ssl everywhere? | 14:42 |
| bnemec | Yeah, that's the plan. | 14:42 |
| slagle | cool | 14:42 |
| bnemec | I think Juan and/or Mark were planning to do that once all the pieces are in place. | 14:43 |
| gfidente | oh I wonder how are we doing with the basic nova/ping test in CI? marios? | 14:43 |
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| gfidente | is there a review for that? | 14:43 |
| marios | gfidente: no i is somethign i have wanted to revisit but keep being pulled into other things | 14:44 |
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| * bnemec points at https://github.com/openstack/instack-undercloud/blob/master/scripts/instack-test-overcloud again | 14:44 | |
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| marios | gfidente: there is a review, but it was for the original plan to add to tripleo.sh | 14:44 |
| marios | gfidente: like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241167/ i started rewriting to a heat template. anyway, still to revisit as soon as possible | 14:45 |
| dprince | okay, thanks for the updates. moving on | 14:46 |
| jtomasek | o/ | 14:46 |
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| dprince | #topic open discussion | 14:46 |
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| dprince | any other topics that need mentioning this week | 14:47 |
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| shardy | we didn't really reach consensus on the parameters/parameter_defaults thing on the ML yet, please respond if you have an opinion | 14:47 |
| dprince | shardy: ack | 14:47 |
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| marios | gfidente: something like this http://paste.fedoraproject.org/287295/46736696/ | 14:47 |
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| dprince | I posted an etherpad which organizes some patches to get us Mistral support: | 14:48 |
| dprince | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-undercloud-workflow | 14:48 |
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| dprince | mostly puppet-mistral stuff... but it also gets us keystone v3 in the undercloud (which was required for mistral) | 14:48 |
| * dprince is interested in exporing mistral workflows for several things in TripleO | 14:49 | |
| bnemec | Yeah, I think we had talked about implementing some of the new API stuff in Mistral at some point. | 14:49 |
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| shardy | dprince: +1 on mistral, but I'd like to see it's usage made pluggable in tripleo-common if possible | 14:50 |
| shardy | e.g folks keep talking about various tools in the workflow space, so it'd be nice to have a simple abstraction to enable supporting more than one | 14:51 |
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| dprince | shardy: that is one way to go about it I guess | 14:51 |
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| bnemec | Once we have an actual API we should be able to do whatever we want with the implementation behind it. | 14:52 |
| dprince | shardy: I was actually wondering if simply using a mistral workflow (which already has an OpenSTack API) might supplant parts of our tripleo-common stuff altogether | 14:53 |
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| shardy | ack, I'm just worried about alienating operators who e.g prefer ansible or whatever, but mistral seems like a good move regardless and more aligned with the TripleO mission | 14:54 |
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| dprince | shardy: As for using tool-X I think we do need better integration with things like Ansible and the like | 14:54 |
| dprince | shardy: but really.. I think that is perhaps just generating a hosts file with the relevant roles. | 14:55 |
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| dprince | shardy: one way to look at it perhaps | 14:55 |
| shardy | dprince: yeah, maybe that use case ends up satisfied via the split stack thing | 14:55 |
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| shardy | anyway, something to think about | 14:56 |
| dprince | shardy: yep, step at a time | 14:56 |
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| dprince | anything else this week? | 14:58 |
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| dprince | okay, thanks everyone | 14:59 |
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| dprince | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 14:59:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-11-24-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-11-24-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-11-24-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
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| tmorin | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 15:00:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tmorin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:01 |
| enikher | hello | 15:01 |
| tmorin | hi enikher | 15:01 |
| matrohon | hi | 15:01 |
| tmorin | hit doude, matrohon, pcarver_, timirnich_ | 15:01 |
| tmorin | hi wdeclercq | 15:01 |
| wdeclercq | hey tmorin | 15:01 |
| doude | tmorin: hi | 15:01 |
| timirnich_ | salut tmorin | 15:01 |
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| matrohon | timirnich_, meeting en français? | 15:02 |
| tmorin | guten Tag Tim | 15:02 |
| tmorin | matrohon: we would have to teach utf8 to our IRC clients first :) | 15:03 |
| tmorin | let's start | 15:03 |
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| timirnich_ | :-) | 15:03 |
| tmorin | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
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| tmorin | we had quite a few things done this week | 15:04 |
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| tmorin | we'll discuss drivers separately | 15:04 |
| tmorin | looking at non-driver things, there is the backport works going on | 15:04 |
| enikher | kilo backport seems to be ready | 15:05 |
| enikher | only thing left is changing requirements.txt | 15:05 |
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| enikher | blocked by ci of OS | 15:05 |
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| tmorin | yes, we still haven't resolved this | 15:05 |
| tmorin | I've exposed our issue to the openstack-dev list, including the technical committee | 15:06 |
| tmorin | the feedback is reasonably good | 15:06 |
| tmorin | but we aren't at a stage where we can merge changes that touch our requirements file | 15:06 |
| matrohon | the discussion is ongoing also on : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243610/ | 15:06 |
| tmorin | yes, | 15:06 |
| tmorin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/thread.html#79773 | 15:07 |
| tmorin | for the mailing list discussion | 15:07 |
| matrohon | #link : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/078301.html | 15:07 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243610/ | 15:07 |
| matrohon | ttx annoucment ^ | 15:08 |
| tmorin | yes, so listening to tc tech lead, we should be able to work in our backport branches | 15:08 |
| enikher | but I don't think they will accept this commit or? | 15:08 |
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| tmorin | but we don't have an agreement on making the problematic job being disabled for us | 15:09 |
| tmorin | I don't know yet | 15:09 |
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| tmorin | we possibly need to offer another alternative than making the job non-voting | 15:09 |
| tmorin | such as purely disabling it (to avoid having a particular rule for our project) | 15:09 |
| tmorin | or such as disabling it except for stable/x branches | 15:10 |
| tmorin | I'll try to propose something today | 15:10 |
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| enikher | the gate-networking-bgpvpn-requirements job is not listed in the commits but jenkins still gives a -1 | 15:10 |
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| tmorin | it is not visible | 15:11 |
| tmorin | unless you click "toggle CI" | 15:11 |
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| enikher | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248612/ | 15:11 |
| matrohon | enikanorov_, it's because you're modifying the requirements.txt | 15:11 |
| tmorin | in which case the diagnostic of the check requirement job is provided | 15:11 |
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| tmorin | this is wha you see with "toggle CI" :: gate-networking-bgpvpn-requirements http://logs.openstack.org/12/248612/7/check/gate-networking-bgpvpn-requirements/1828400/ : Incompatible requirement found; see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/requirements/ in 35s | 15:11 |
| enikanorov_ | matrohon: | 15:11 |
| enikanorov_ | :D | 15:11 |
| enikher | matrohon: although the job of ci is not liseted? | 15:12 |
| janscheurich | hi all, sorry for being late. | 15:12 |
| matrohon | enikanorov_, oops wrong completion, sorry | 15:13 |
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| matrohon | enikher, this test doesn't appear like a normal job | 15:13 |
| tmorin | it is badly formatted, but it is here | 15:14 |
| matrohon | enikher, that's what tmorin is trying to fix with its patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243610/ | 15:14 |
| enikher | Yes I have seen that and also folowed the thread. | 15:15 |
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| matrohon | let's keep discussing this on review | 15:15 |
| tmorin | ok | 15:16 |
| matrohon | I recall taht we wo'nt be able to merge if requirements job are failing | 15:16 |
| matrohon | We already tried by the past | 15:16 |
| tmorin | matrohon: yes, indeed | 15:16 |
| tmorin | ok, another thing since last week is that enikher has started to work on tempest testing | 15:17 |
| matrohon | that's the main issue, even with the ttx's proposal of maintaining our own branches | 15:17 |
| tmorin | sorry :) | 15:17 |
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| matrohon | ok let's move forward | 15:17 |
| tmorin | ok :) | 15:17 |
| matrohon | #topic tempest | 15:18 |
| enikher | yes | 15:18 |
| tmorin | thanks enikher for starting this work | 15:18 |
| matrohon | enikher, +1 | 15:18 |
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| matrohon | can you sum up the situation enikher | 15:18 |
| enikher | the first test is already running - but we have a issue with the lcient | 15:18 |
| enikher | client | 15:18 |
| tmorin | the next step is review/merge, and then to create a jenkins/zuul config using this job | 15:18 |
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| enikher | Here is the commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246509/ | 15:19 |
| tmorin | enikher: what command to you use to simply run the one tempest case you added ? | 15:19 |
| matrohon | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246509/ | 15:19 |
| enikher | I have added now a tempest client, but I don't like that. | 15:19 |
| enikher | python -m testtools.run networking_bgpvpn_tempest.tests.api.test_bgpvpn.BgpvpnTest.test_create_bgpvpn | 15:19 |
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| matrohon | enikher, you said that every project is using it's own client? | 15:20 |
| enikher | you have to install tempest first. I use ./run_tempest.sh -N -s | 15:20 |
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| enikher | nova/neutron/manila | 15:20 |
| enikher | have all own clients in tempest as well. | 15:21 |
| enikher | manila has even tow in the same repo. one for tempest plugin, one for cli | 15:21 |
| tmorin | enikher: I suggest we first investigate the pros/cons of each approach, and then see if we switch to using the bgpvpn python-neutronclient extension | 15:21 |
| enikher | tempest is a mess :-) | 15:21 |
| matrohon | seems really messy | 15:21 |
| matrohon | +1 | 15:21 |
| matrohon | I heard that several project get rid of tempest and use rally instead | 15:22 |
| tmorin | I'm volunteering to work on the zuul/jenkins config needed to create a tempest job leveraging the new plugin | 15:22 |
| matrohon | tmorin : our gate guru! | 15:23 |
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| enikher | I can do some work to check if we can include python-neutronclient | 15:23 |
| wdeclercq | I thought rally is mainly used for multiple threads/concurrency and stuff | 15:23 |
| enikher | tmorin: do you have a good wiki how to do that? | 15:23 |
| boris-42 | matrohon: wdeclercq it can be used for functional testing as well | 15:24 |
| tmorin | enikher: no that I know about | 15:24 |
| matrohon | wdeclercq, that was its main target, but rally is trying to bypass tempest when its first implemention was relying on it | 15:24 |
| boris-42 | matrohon: wdeclercq just remove concurrency and you'll get functioanl test | 15:24 |
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| wdeclercq | okay then :) | 15:25 |
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| boris-42 | matrohon: wdeclercq so basically first implementation didn't rely on tempest.. it was seperated framework since begging-) | 15:25 |
| matrohon | boris-42, ok thanks | 15:25 |
| tmorin | enikher: looking at existing jobs and taking "inspiration" is what I do | 15:25 |
| boris-42 | ) | 15:25 |
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| matrohon | neutron also improved its own functional test framework, with full-stack | 15:26 |
| enikher | tmorin: can you send me a link to exsisting? I am new to jenkins | 15:26 |
| tmorin | enikher: I'm fairly new too, matrohon was teasing me when saying guru | 15:27 |
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| pcarver | enikher: it's the project-config repo | 15:27 |
| enikher | so there is no jenkins website? | 15:27 |
| pcarver | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack-infra/project-config | 15:27 |
| tmorin | enikher: this change is an example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243725/ | 15:27 |
| tmorin | enikher: fungi had a good blog post, but I can't find it now | 15:28 |
| pcarver | enikher: I'm not aware of one. What I've done in the past is clone the project-config repo, edit files and push a git-review just like any code change | 15:28 |
| enikher | ok, we can discuss that later. | 15:28 |
| enikher | learning me is not the main topic of that meeting :-) | 15:28 |
| tmorin | enikher: look at the change above, you'll have a first idea | 15:28 |
| tmorin | next topic then :) | 15:28 |
| enikher | ok thanks | 15:28 |
| tmorin | #topic router association | 15:29 |
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| matrohon | tmorin are you talking about : http://www.joinfu.com/2014/01/understanding-the-openstack-ci-system/ | 15:29 |
| tmorin | matrohon: yes, this is a very good blog post | 15:29 |
| tmorin | tmorin: good highlevel starting point | 15:29 |
| fungi | tmorin: yeah, that's asselin, not me | 15:29 |
| matrohon | let's keep on trying to use tempest for the moment, since the work is bootstrapped | 15:29 |
| * fungi doesn't "blog" | 15:29 | |
| tmorin | fungi: hah, sorry :) | 15:30 |
| fungi | i stand corrected, that's jaypipes' blog | 15:30 |
| tmorin | so, back to router association | 15:30 |
| tmorin | fungi: ah, thanks for the precision | 15:31 |
| tmorin | back to router associations... | 15:31 |
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| tmorin | thanks wdeclercq for the contribution (both API, client and reference driver) | 15:31 |
| matrohon | wdeclercq, +1000 | 15:32 |
| tmorin | yes :) | 15:32 |
| tmorin | we have to review it | 15:32 |
| wdeclercq | you're welcome :) | 15:32 |
| matrohon | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249230/ | 15:32 |
| tmorin | it looks pretty clean | 15:32 |
| wdeclercq | 1 thing I'll mention. if I run this "neutron-db-manage --subproject networking-bgpvpn --database-connection sqlite:// check_migration" which is inside the tox thing | 15:33 |
| tmorin | I think we'll try to merge before we do a release | 15:33 |
| wdeclercq | it doesn't seem to output my added DB change | 15:33 |
| wdeclercq | however, I can drop the neutron database and db-manage will create it with the router association table, so I guess it's fine | 15:33 |
| tmorin | wdeclercq: we have to investigate what check_migration is supposed to check, and why it does not consume all alembic changes | 15:34 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: we don't have any automated testing yet, I'm assuming you have done manual testing, in particular on the bagpipe driver ? | 15:36 |
| wdeclercq | yeah, that's how I ended up seeing those port_update notification issues of L3 like I mentioned last week | 15:37 |
| tmorin | I'll do some as well | 15:37 |
| tmorin | wdeclercq: yes | 15:37 |
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| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:39 |
| tmorin | #topic bagpipe driver | 15:39 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq (see above) found a bug, which we discussed together | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517480 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517480 in bgpvpn "port-delete fails" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 15:40 |
| tmorin | I pushed a fix today | 15:40 |
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| tmorin | along with a vastly improved unit test to detect issues related to neutron registry callbacks | 15:41 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249081/ | 15:41 |
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| tmorin | by the way, wdeclercq, it would be nice if the router association code could have a similar unit test | 15:41 |
| wdeclercq | Okay, I'll see what has to be done to be in line with networks | 15:42 |
| matrohon | tmorin : great improvments, I had not much to say on the first patch | 15:42 |
| tmorin | thanks wdeclercq for finding this bug, that was the opportunity to improve the unit tests | 15:42 |
| matrohon | tmorin : I'll review new one soon | 15:42 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: thanks | 15:43 |
| tmorin | next topic ? | 15:43 |
| matrohon | so we're postpoing our first release to have router associations in? | 15:43 |
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| tmorin | let's review the change first | 15:43 |
| matrohon | aprt from bagpipe know of our current driver implement it | 15:44 |
| tmorin | if, as it seems, not much additional work is needed to merge it, then yes, I think we can release after | 15:44 |
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| tmorin | matrohon: correct | 15:44 |
| matrohon | sorry for my poor english, too speed at writing :( | 15:44 |
| matrohon | ok let's review first | 15:45 |
| tmorin | we still need to check what behavior we have when trying to do a router association on a non supporting driver | 15:45 |
| tmorin | silently doing nothing is possibly the current behavior | 15:45 |
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| matrohon | let's think about it | 15:46 |
| tmorin | maybe we should default to having the router association method in BGPVPNDriverBase raise an Exception | 15:46 |
| tmorin | so that we have something sane for non-ready drivers | 15:47 |
| tmorin | yes, let's think about it | 15:47 |
| matrohon | #topic driver status | 15:47 |
| tmorin | #topic ODL driver | 15:47 |
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| tmorin | since we already covered bagpipe | 15:47 |
| tmorin | the ODL driver has been submitted for review in networking-bgpvpn | 15:48 |
| tmorin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247096/ | 15:48 |
| tmorin | the change is waiting for a new PS after a first review | 15:48 |
| matrohon | I gave my +1 on the light implementation in the odl repo : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231321/ | 15:49 |
| tmorin | the amount of work left is reasonably low | 15:49 |
| tmorin | I'm waiting for cleaner exception being raised before giving a +1 | 15:49 |
| tmorin | the amount of work left is low enough | 15:49 |
| matrohon | vthapar wanted to have a first implementation ready in odl repo, and cooked a finest one in bgpvpn repo | 15:50 |
| matrohon | I'm fine with that | 15:50 |
| tmorin | why not | 15:50 |
| tmorin | but I think only a reduced amount of work is needed to have something satifsying to merge in networking-bgpvpn | 15:50 |
| tmorin | doable before a first release if vishal finds the time to work on it, I'd think | 15:51 |
| matrohon | he had some issue with mock | 15:51 |
| tmorin | matrohon: what kind ? | 15:51 |
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| matrohon | and he also start to implement the revert of a error in bgpvpn deletion | 15:51 |
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| matrohon | for the deletion : he wants to rely on a ODL framework that is not currently available | 15:52 |
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| matrohon | tmorin : I don't really, I have to test it locally | 15:52 |
| tmorin | yes, but I think we understand that reverting is complex to do with ODL and that it can be refined later (does not seem specific to BGPVPN in fact, AFAIU) | 15:53 |
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| janscheurich | Can't we use the driver from networking-odl in the first release if that is good enough and does not have unmet external dependencies? | 15:53 |
| matrohon | janscheurich, that's the idea | 15:54 |
| janscheurich | But then we should have that patch merged in networking-bgpvpn, or not? | 15:54 |
| tmorin | janscheurich: the driver from networking-odl would be usable with the first release of net-bgpvpn, but would not be "in" the first release | 15:54 |
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| matrohon | our driver API shouldn't change, unless we have a very very good reason to modify it | 15:54 |
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| janscheurich | OK, if that is what you have agreed with vishal | 15:55 |
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| matrohon | I think its idea is to keep on working in the odl repo | 15:56 |
| matrohon | but having a beta release in the bgpvpn repo | 15:56 |
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| matrohon | contrail? | 15:56 |
| matrohon | doude? | 15:57 |
| tmorin | I think we can plan to have both versions repo mentioned in the odl driver doc that will sit in networking-bgpvpn/doc/source/odl | 15:57 |
| matrohon | only 3 min left | 15:57 |
| tmorin | I forgot to mention it in the announcements | 15:57 |
| doude | matrohon: yes | 15:57 |
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| doude | ? | 15:57 |
| matrohon | #annoucement : the contrail driver has merged | 15:58 |
| tmorin | the OpenContrail driver merged last week ! | 15:58 |
| tmorin | that's it :) | 15:58 |
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| tmorin | anything to add on the next steps doude ? | 15:58 |
| matrohon | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202806/. | 15:58 |
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| tmorin | wdeclercq: anything to announce on nuage side, about a nuage driver ? | 15:58 |
| doude | tmorin: for the contrail driver ? | 15:59 |
| tmorin | doude: yes | 15:59 |
| wdeclercq | hm no, I actually have no news of that. I can ask around and inform next week | 15:59 |
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| doude | tmorin: I'm still working to add the bgpvpn resource to the contrail data model | 15:59 |
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| tmorin | before closing, I want to really insist that we are really happy to see new contributors coming, making networking-bgpvpn more diverse and making good progress | 15:59 |
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| doude | then I'll update the driver to use it | 15:59 |
| tmorin | doude: ok | 16:00 |
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| matrohon | tmoin : +100000 | 16:00 |
| matrohon | tmorin : +100000 | 16:00 |
| doude | for the moment the work is on the contrail side | 16:00 |
| tmorin | ok, we have to free the floor | 16:00 |
| tmorin | this was a very good week for new contribut(ion|or)s | 16:01 |
| matrohon | thanks everybody | 16:01 |
| tmorin | keep up the good work ! ;) | 16:01 |
| tmorin | thanks everyone | 16:01 |
| enikher | thanks and bye :-) | 16:01 |
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| janscheurich | bye | 16:01 |
| wdeclercq | byebye o/ | 16:01 |
| tmorin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| tmorin | bye | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 16:01:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-11-24-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-11-24-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2015/bgpvpn.2015-11-24-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | we will begin the containers meeting in just a moment | 16:01 |
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| vthapar | tmorin: was in another meeting. | 16:02 |
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| tmorin | vthapar: let's discuss in #openstack-neutron if you want | 16:02 |
| tmorin | adrian_otto: the room is yours :) | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks! | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 16:03:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-11-24_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:04 |
| daneyon_ | o/ | 16:04 |
| vilobhmm1 | o/ | 16:04 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 16:04 |
| rpothier | o/ | 16:04 |
| muralia1 | o/ | 16:04 |
| Kennan | o/ | 16:04 |
| yolanda | o/ | 16:04 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:04 |
| Tango | o/ | 16:04 |
| jimmyxian | o/ | 16:04 |
| houming | o/ | 16:04 |
| eghobo | o/ | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | hello daneyon_ vilobhmm1 dimtruck rpothier muralia1 Kennan yolanda hongbin Tango jimmyxian houming and eghobo | 16:05 |
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| rlrossit | o/ | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:05 | |
| adrian_otto | first of all, I wanted to extend special thanks to hongbin for chairing our meeting last week. | 16:05 |
| Guest72939 | o/ | 16:06 |
| hongbin | np | 16:06 |
| daneyon_ | you da man hongbin | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | second, if you have any open bugs chances are you noticed a bunch of activity yesterday and last night | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | 1) Bug cleanup underway | 16:06 |
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| Drago | o/ | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | Most open bugs were targeted to a release | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | I'm planning to go through the Wishlist ones and see which ones should actually be un-targeted. | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | we closed over 350 bugs | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) magnum and python-magnumclient 1.1.0 released (but not announced) | 16:07 |
| yolanda | great | 16:08 |
| suro-patz | o/ | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | I need to take a moment to look in pypi to see if the client showed up there | 16:08 |
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| juggler | o/ | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-magnumclient/1.1.0 Our New Client | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 3) As daneyon_ mentioned on our ML, there will be no network subteam meeting this week due to a US holiday on Thursday (Thanksgiving) | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 16:10 |
| adrian_otto | if you notice problems with the tagged release, just let me know and I can tag another. | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | then when we think that code is solid, we can announce it | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Container Networking Subteam Update | 16:12 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015 Previous Meetings | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon_: any remarks? | 16:12 |
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| daneyon_ | The big news here is that the Magnum CNM has been implemented for swarm bay types using the flannel network-driver | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | whoot!! | 16:12 |
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| juggler | :) | 16:13 |
| hongbin | awesome! | 16:13 |
| jimmyxian | Cool! | 16:13 |
| daneyon_ | The team has also decided not to implement the CNM using flannel for Mesos. This is b/c Mesos does not support etcd, which is required for flannel. | 16:13 |
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| daneyon_ | we had a lot of good discussion around containerizing flannel | 16:14 |
| daneyon_ | this would be applicable to all services running on nodes | 16:14 |
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| daneyon_ | wanghua is working on this effort | 16:14 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/run-kube-as-container | 16:15 |
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| daneyon_ | and Tango is working on option #3 of this patch to add flannel's host-gw mode | 16:15 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241866/ | 16:15 |
| Tango | option #2 ? | 16:16 |
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| daneyon_ | the host-gw mode aligns nicely with our networking model (shared L3 for nodes) and should provide a non-overlay solution.... improving networking performance. | 16:16 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango option #2 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241866/ | 16:17 |
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| daneyon_ | Please let me know if I misunderstood our discussion from last week. | 16:17 |
| Kennan | what's option #2 means ? | 16:17 |
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| Kennan | replace with host-gw ? | 16:18 |
| daneyon_ | As adrian_otto mentioned, not meeting this week due to Thanksgiving. | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon_: what happened with "hongbin follows up with Daneyon for the submeeting discussion"? | 16:18 |
| Tango | Kennan: It means the user can specify different backend options: udp, vxlan, host-gw | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | are we continuing the subteam meetings, or merging back in here? | 16:18 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto thanks for the reminder | 16:19 |
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| Kennan | Tango: is it tried with CNM labels > | 16:19 |
| Kennan | ? | 16:19 |
| daneyon_ | We did have a brief discussion on whether to continue the sub team meetings now that the Magnum CNM is well underway. | 16:19 |
| Tango | Kennan: Yes it will be done with labels | 16:19 |
| daneyon_ | I am indifferent to either direction. | 16:20 |
| Tango | I am ok either way | 16:20 |
| tcammann | hello, sorry I'm late | 16:20 |
| Kennan | ok Tango: will check your patch when reday | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so unless anyone feels differently, let's not change anything | 16:20 |
| daneyon_ | What would the rest of the team like to do? Keep the meetings going or stop them? | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon_: as long as Stackers are showing up, we can keep them going | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | if attendance trails off, that will be our signal to stop | 16:20 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto I think that's a good approach. | 16:21 |
| daneyon_ | +1 on that | 16:21 |
| Tango | So far we still have good discussion | 16:21 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto I think that's it. | 16:21 |
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| daneyon_ | agreed Tango | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | thanks daneyon_ | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) hongbin follow up with Adrian Otto for the release of python-mangumclient | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE (Thanks hongbin and adrian_otto!) | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | 2) hongbin follows up with Daneyon for the submeeting discussion | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE (Meetings will continue) | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | 3) hongbin starts a ML to discuss the renamed file issue | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | did I miss this one? | 16:22 |
| hongbin | Done | 16:22 |
| daneyon_ | and I really appreciate everyone's involvement. I think we have come a long way in the last few months. | 16:22 |
| hongbin | I sent a ML. The team gave feedback | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | can we get a #link to it for posterity's sake? | 16:22 |
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| tcammann | You replied adrian_otto! | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | daneyon_: thanks for your continued leadership. | 16:22 |
| daneyon_ | :-) | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | tcammann: goes to show my memory is leaky | 16:23 |
| hongbin | finding the link | 16:23 |
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| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079796.html | 16:23 |
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| juggler | adrian_otto happens to us too | 16:23 |
| juggler | ! | 16:23 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE (Thanks again hongbin! <3) | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | now, although I made like a thousands changes in the bug tracker | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | I have not finished with the blueprints yet | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | many of them have been approved, but not yet targeted to a release | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | we had an etherpad to list them | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | has anyone kept track of that link by chance (I can refer to notes otherwise) | 16:25 |
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| Kennan | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-magnum-planning | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | Kennan: thanks!! | 16:26 |
| juggler | thx Kennan | 16:26 |
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| Kennan | :) | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-magnum-planning and use it to target Mitaka blueprints | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | in order to actually do the targeting, it would be helpful for all directionally approved blueprints to get T-shirt size level-of-effort estimates | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | this is not something based on story points, just a ballpark guess. | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | so for the high/critical importance ones (including networking CNM stuff, probably) I will hound you for team updates in this section of our team meetings | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | with that said, are there any work items (bugs, or bp's) that require team discussion today? | 16:29 |
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| houming | This one: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246609/ | 16:30 |
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| houming | should we validate baymodel’s attribute before bay-creation? | 16:30 |
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| adrian_otto | they might be changed after the baymodel is created | 16:32 |
| Tango | I think houming means at the point of bay-create | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | so if I add a baymodel that refers to image-id 1234, and then I delete image 1234, then baymodel creates on that baymodel will fail | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | but bays actually rely on baymodels | 16:33 |
| houming | Yes, at the point of bay-cration, before it sent request to heat, we check the existence of OpenStack resources. | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | a bay without a corresponding baymodel will not work either. That's where improvement is needed, to tie them together better. | 16:33 |
| vilobhmm1 | houming: have you cheked does nova boot verify the flavor parameters before booting an instance ? | 16:33 |
| Tango | houming: We should validate those that are not validated by Heat | 16:34 |
| Kennan | + 1 Tango | 16:34 |
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| hongbin | vilobhmm1: In thoery, heat stack-create will verify flavor before creating a stack | 16:34 |
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| houming | yes. Nova will fail immidately when the image/network is not existed. | 16:34 |
| tcammann | Still would prefer that Magnum checks these | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | Tango: if we allow the heat stack create to fail, we might not have as nice of an exception to raise | 16:34 |
| tcammann | Otherwise you will have to dig into the heat stack to find the issue | 16:35 |
| Kennan | seems not need double check right now. if heat handle that and response informative | 16:35 |
| vilobhmm1 | houming : sure… we should also validate it.. | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | whereas, if we do the checks, we could potentially have a very actionable exception | 16:35 |
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| houming | In K8S bay creation, flavor_id seems not be checked. I verfied it today. | 16:35 |
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| tcammann | adrian_otto: +1 | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | thanks for looking at that houming | 16:36 |
| tcammann | regardless if heat checks or not, we should verify it to warn the user directly. | 16:36 |
| vilobhmm1 | +1 | 16:36 |
| hongbin | My only concern is the performance impact of double validation | 16:36 |
| hongbin | Each validation is an API call, which is not cheap | 16:36 |
| Kennan | I did not think need all checks (only check what heat not good at ) | 16:36 |
| tcammann | Bay creation is a slow process | 16:37 |
| tcammann | heat is slow! | 16:37 |
| Tango | Right, f we send a bunch of API request for each attribute. | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | agreed, hongbin. We should reserve double checking for things that are likely to happen and have big impact. | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | if heat does a check, and raises a sensible exception we can parse, that's going to perform better | 16:37 |
| houming | Yes, bay creation is slow and not a frequent operation. | 16:37 |
| Tango | We should be able to query heat for failure cause | 16:37 |
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| Kennan | we need to support bay-creation in scale case, I rememeber it was about one bp | 16:38 |
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| tcammann | I still don't think the bottle neck will be on API calls | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | bay creation performance is probably not our top concern | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | but user experience is important | 16:40 |
| Tango | Validation is very helpful, and giving user good error message is great. We just need to check what's the best approach. | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | so let's make the debugging required as painless as possible when interacting with magnum | 16:40 |
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| tcammann | If we hit scale/perf issues later, we can refactor | 16:41 |
| hongbin | agreed | 16:41 |
| vilobhmm1 | we talking about the API call to glance to pull the image data right ? I agree with Tom it shouldn't be a bottleneck as such | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | and I'd like to make performance decisions based on experimental data rather than based on pure worry. | 16:41 |
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| houming | OK, I’ll calculate the cost time of validaton API calls. | 16:43 |
| Kennan | sounds good houming: | 16:43 |
| Tango | houming: +1 | 16:43 |
| vilobhmm1 | +1 | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | thanks houming. Any more on this item? | 16:43 |
| houming | So, we have a agreement that we should do validation, in bay-cration before it send the request to heat. right? | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | any more work items to cover as a team prior to advancing our agenda? | 16:44 |
| jimmyxian | agreed adrian_otto | 16:44 |
| Kennan | I think so houming | 16:44 |
| Tango | houming: Do you want to discuss soft error vs hard error? | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | houming: that's the direction, unless we can get the equivalent user experience by calling heat and parsing the error reason. | 16:44 |
| vilobhmm1 | houming : Yes! | 16:45 |
| Kennan | Tango: do you mean validate baymodel case ? | 16:45 |
| houming | Tango, my opoion is hard error in Bay-Cration. | 16:45 |
| Kennan | seems bay-creation only hae hard error | 16:45 |
| Kennan | s/hae/has | 16:45 |
| houming | and do you mean also add soft error in Baymodel creation? | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | bradjones: yt? | 16:46 |
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| bradjones | here | 16:46 |
| Tango | houming: yes | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's get a subteam update… one moment while I switch the topic | 16:46 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Magnum UI Subteam Update (bradjones) | 16:47 |
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| bradjones | Things are moving quickly in the UI world :) | 16:47 |
| bradjones | there are patches out for detail views for containers/bays and bay models | 16:47 |
| bradjones | which look really good so shout out to Shuu for the good work | 16:47 |
| bradjones | Last week it was mentioned that we should have a road map for the UI work | 16:48 |
| bradjones | I've started putting together a document just to collect some informal ideas | 16:48 |
| bradjones | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ui-feature-list | 16:48 |
| bradjones | if people could have a look and add there thoughts there it would be greatly appreciated | 16:49 |
| bradjones | I'll start a mailing list thread as well linking that page | 16:49 |
| bradjones | the more thoughts the better | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | thanks bradjones! | 16:49 |
| Tango | bradjones: So we can add as wishlist and you will reoganize? | 16:49 |
| bradjones | Tango: sure that works | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247083/ Tempest plugin work (dimtruck) | 16:50 |
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| dimtruck | this is an initial effort to port our tempest tests to tempest plugin | 16:50 |
| dimtruck | they're blocked on adding tempest to gates | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248123/ Adding tempest to gate (dimtruck) | 16:50 |
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| dimtruck | which i did with that patch ^ | 16:51 |
| dimtruck | i also added it to openstack-infra's meeting agenda for later today to see if it can get some eyes | 16:51 |
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| yolanda | i can review | 16:51 |
| dimtruck | once it lands, i can continue refactoring the tempest plugin. | 16:51 |
| dimtruck | thanks yolanda! | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks for driving that dimtruck. This is really important to get right. | 16:51 |
| tcammann | yup, thanks dimtruck | 16:52 |
| dimtruck | good news is that our tests do not need to be refactored at all. tempest will just pick them up! | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | that's everything in our agenda | 16:52 |
| Kennan | good job dimtruck | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | dimtruck: very good news!! | 16:52 |
| yolanda | i wanted to show a blueprint i created, to build fedora images using dib | 16:52 |
| yolanda | i believe i put that on agenda... | 16:52 |
| dimtruck | oh yolanda - it probably made it to previous week's (i remember seeing it on 11/17 when i was waiting to add mine) | 16:53 |
| yolanda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/fedora-atomic-image-build | 16:53 |
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| yolanda | dimtruck, yes, may be that | 16:53 |
| juggler | thx dimtruck | 16:53 |
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| yolanda | so in order to add support for shade, that's one of our blocker | 16:54 |
| yolanda | in last meeting, we suggested to explore image creation using disk image builder, so i create the initial blueprint | 16:54 |
| tcammann | Is shade used in infra? | 16:54 |
| daneyon_ | the net subteam discussed creating a network-driver support matrix | 16:54 |
| daneyon_ | any suggestions where this matrix should live? | 16:54 |
| yolanda | tcammann, yes, it's used | 16:55 |
| yolanda | for ansible and for nodepool | 16:55 |
| tcammann | ok I see, thanks yolanda | 16:55 |
| adrian_otto | yolanda: directionally approved and targeted for mitaka | 16:55 |
| tcammann | daneyon_: the wiki probably the best place | 16:55 |
| yolanda | adrian_otto, thanks | 16:55 |
| Tango | yolanda: +1 | 16:55 |
| daneyon_ | tcammann will do | 16:55 |
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| yolanda | ok so i will start progress on it | 16:56 |
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| daneyon_ | tcammann do you suggest under the resources section? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum#Resources | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | time check, we have just a few minutes remaining | 16:57 |
| daneyon_ | or in the main page? | 16:57 |
| Kennan | daneyon_ seems in etherpad is better | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | let's wrap up, and plan to carry unfinished discussions to conclusion in #openstack-containers | 16:57 |
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| daneyon_ | goodbye | 16:58 |
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| juggler | safe travels for those doing so! | 16:58 |
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| yolanda | bye | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending today. Our next meeting will be Tuesday 2015-12-01 at 1600 UTC. See you then! | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 16:59:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| houming | Pleasure to have meeting and discussion with you all, I’m new to Magnum and looking forward to do more contribution:) | 16:59 |
| houming | Good morning or night everyone. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-11-24-16.03.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-11-24-16.03.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-11-24-16.03.log.html | 16:59 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 17:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | Hi team! | 17:00 |
| freerunner | heeey ;) | 17:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | hi | 17:00 |
| slagun | hi | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_ip_ | hi, will get to my laptop in a few moments | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_ip_ | I mean 0/ | 17:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_ip_: :D | 17:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | ask kzaitsev_ws about "BP for maintaining visiblity of dependencies" | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | #1 | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_ip_: ? ) | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | ola, I'm back with my usual name ) | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | you have so many of them :) | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, sorry ) I still get notified for every mention | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so the BP | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | we have 2: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/better-control-over-image-downloads | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/better-package-dependency-ui | 17:10 |
| sergmelikyan | I think first one is superseded by second one | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | they do not directly address the issue, but cover it as part of the themselves. I believe, that as soon as we implement those — image visibility controll would come naturlly | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well, probably you're right | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | shall you mark it as superceded, then? | 17:12 |
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| sergmelikyan | I am interested in what other folks think :) | 17:14 |
| sergmelikyan | regarding this | 17:14 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | https://hools.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/pooh_think.gif | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:16 |
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| sergmelikyan | slagun: ^ | 17:19 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 17:19 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | shall we put an AI for everyone to think on that? =) | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | sometimes I think that only kzaitsev_mb and me are actually attending this meeting | 17:20 |
| sergmelikyan | we did that last week actually | 17:20 |
| ddovbii | I'm ok with idea to leave both of them | 17:20 |
| slagun | I'd prefer to have 1 BP. But 2 is also okay | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well, sergmelikyan you and I — we just type real fast =)) | 17:21 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: let's merge them with one BP covering all aspects regarding handling dependencies during import? | 17:22 |
| katyafervent2 | both, we can combine later if needed | 17:22 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: ? | 17:24 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: yeah, sure. | 17:25 |
| freerunner | I think that we shouldn't merge these bps to one. At least, because client can work without dashboard, and dashboard without client can't. But, this is IMHO. | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #action merge dependency blueprints (kzaitsev) | 17:25 |
| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: both of them actually affect both dashboard and client | 17:26 |
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| slagun | it is easier to track and understand when there is a single BP. There may be many commits with partial BP implementation though | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | freerunner: so it makes perfect sence to just rethink them as one, since they both solve the same problem more or less. | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, agree on that. | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | shall we move to our agenda? =) | 17:27 |
| sergmelikyan | yep | 17:28 |
| sergmelikyan | #startvote Do we enable building docs for rtd on Murano CI? Yes, No | 17:28 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Do we enable building docs for rtd on Murano CI? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 17:28 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:28 |
| sergmelikyan | #vote Yes | 17:28 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm all in, if that is possible, although I believe, that we should use d.o.o for an official link to documentation | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #vote Yes | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | that being said — googling murano docs still brings up rtfd | 17:30 |
| katyafervent2 | #vote yes | 17:30 |
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| slagun | #vote yes | 17:30 |
| ddovbii | #vote Yes | 17:30 |
| freerunner | I think, sergmelikyan missing 'need to' verb in voting ;) | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | this vote is from last meeting, right? | 17:31 |
| katyafervent2 | kzaitsev_mb, thats the main reason of support rtd | 17:31 |
| Nikolay_St | #vote yes | 17:32 |
| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_mb: right | 17:32 |
| freerunner | But, I'm agree. We need to create this job. | 17:32 |
| freerunner | #vote yes | 17:32 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: last week we aded action item to have vote on this one | 17:32 |
| sergmelikyan | #endvote | 17:33 |
| openstack | Voted on "Do we enable building docs for rtd on Murano CI?" Results are | 17:33 |
| openstack | Yes (7): ddovbii, Nikolay_St, slagun, freerunner, katyafervent2, sergmelikyan, kzaitsev_mb | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok, cool =) seems, like everyone was in on that ) | 17:33 |
| sergmelikyan | freerunner: will you proceed with this? | 17:33 |
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| freerunner | sergmelikyan: Sure. Also, I will ask aderyugin for help with it. | 17:34 |
| sergmelikyan | #action freerunner add job to Murano CI for building docs for ReadTheDocs | 17:34 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Change application_catalog to application-catalog | 17:36 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm not entirelly sure of implications this might have. | 17:37 |
| freerunner | Huh. I'm ok with this change, but we need to fix all mentions of application_catalog for all projects, which using this type. | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | why do we have to change it, does anyone understand? the bug is not very helpfull | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | I guess we need to just make sure that there are no other mentions in other projects or if there are - fix them | 17:38 |
| sergmelikyan | there are more details here https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1356053 | 17:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1356053 in devstack "Doesn't properly get keystone endpoint when Keystone is configured to use templated catalog" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sergey Reshetnyak (sreshetniak) | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | what is the correct one and why is it correct? | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: like I said — the bug doesn't state why it is wrong | 17:39 |
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| sergmelikyan | it's not wrong | 17:40 |
| slagun | I'd vote to investigate if its possible to fix the route cause why dashes are not accepted | 17:40 |
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| slagun | *root cause* | 17:40 |
| sergmelikyan | "Keystone seems to be converting underscores to dashes here: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/backends/templated.py#L47" | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | I like application-catalog more to be honest :) | 17:41 |
| slagun | +1 | 17:41 |
| katyafervent2 | i agree on changes | 17:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I wonder if this would break existing setups during upgrade? | 17:41 |
| sergmelikyan | So I would change that, and if there issues with application_catalog one - perfect chance to fix that | 17:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | And I wonder where is the man, that added this to agenda... | 17:42 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: it depends on how upgrade is done | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: so there might be problems, right? | 17:42 |
| sergmelikyan | I guess we can talk with folks who did this change for Sahara | 17:42 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | this means, that we should at least not it in the docs | 17:42 |
| sergmelikyan | sure | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | or in release notes )) | 17:42 |
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| sergmelikyan | sure | 17:43 |
| freerunner | So, in this case, I prefer to set -2 for this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243421/3 , before all jobs wasn't fixed. Just noticing, that we have congress integration and rally scripts. Also, we need to fix 'service_broker' naming. | 17:43 |
| katyafervent2 | all jobs pass except rally | 17:43 |
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| freerunner | katyafervent2: Congress job doesn't green here. | 17:44 |
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| sergmelikyan | I guess we can just wait until everything will be green, it's not right to set -2 without clearly stating what is missing in the patch | 17:46 |
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| sergmelikyan | by the way do we need to update devstack libs? | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: I believe docs about upgrade are missing | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and I would most certainly request a release note on that. | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: can you take AI to help LI with taking care about every aspect of this change? | 17:46 |
| sergmelikyan | I would really happy if we would carry out that change | 17:47 |
| sergmelikyan | *would be | 17:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | k, no problem | 17:47 |
| freerunner | sergmelikyan: Libs should be removed soon, after Murano CI updating. | 17:48 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | #action take good care of bug 1514692 | 17:48 |
| openstack | bug 1514692 in python-muranoclient "Murano does not get keystone endpoint when Keystone is configured to use templated catalog" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514692 - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova) | 17:48 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action kzaitsev_mb help Li Yingjun with bug #1514692 | 17:48 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 17:48 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic Using reno for RElease NOtes (kzaitsev) | 17:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Using reno for RElease NOtes (kzaitsev) (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:49 | |
| kzaitsev_mb | yay, finally =) | 17:49 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So I wanted to bring attention to my letter here #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/080364.html | 17:50 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I believe it summs up everything pretty nicely. | 17:50 |
| kzaitsev_mb | And we even have our first release not merged ) | 17:50 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/murano/unreleased.html | 17:51 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | so let's please start using the tool. If you have any problems with it, or anything is not clear — ping me, or better answer the mail, so that everyone would benefit from discussion ) | 17:52 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: sure ) I really like this tool, we need to add release-notes tag usage in launchpad | 17:55 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sergmelikyan: I believe we do not | 17:56 |
| sergmelikyan | why? | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | reno was designed to stop using launchpad for release notes | 17:56 |
| kzaitsev_mb | or does the tag do exactly that? =) | 17:57 |
| sergmelikyan | I think tag should be set by bug supervisor, and commit addressing bug should contain release notes (created by RENO). | 17:57 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | oh. got what you mean | 17:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well, if you look at template — it has ore than just features and fixes | 17:58 |
| kzaitsev_mb | even minor changes might benefit from a release note. But having too many might clutter the document | 17:59 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So I suggest, that we would use common sense =)) | 17:59 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev_mb: sure | 17:59 |
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| * sergmelikyan says sure too many times today | 17:59 | |
| sergmelikyan | Thanks folks! | 18:00 |
| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 18:00:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-11-24-17.00.html | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-11-24-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-11-24-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| gibi | hi | 20:00 |
| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 24 20:00:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 20:00 |
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| gibi | so who we have here for the notification meeting? | 20:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 20:00 |
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| gibi | hi rlrossit | 20:00 |
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| rlrossit | hiya | 20:01 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: thanks for starting the ML thread | 20:01 |
| gibi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-November/079942.html | 20:01 |
| rlrossit | no prob. That took off a lot more than I expected | 20:01 |
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| gibi | I'm happy with the discussion in it | 20:02 |
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| gibi | let's get started | 20:02 |
| gibi | #topic open reviews | 20:02 |
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| gibi | so we have a patch series | 20:02 |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247024/ | 20:02 |
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| gibi | it seems that we have some sort of aggrement how to map existing objects to notification payload | 20:03 |
| gibi | I tried to do the implementation of the idea in the first patch of the seriess | 20:03 |
| rlrossit | yep. I tossed some comments on #6, but I saw you put up #7 right after saving... | 20:03 |
| gibi | #7 is just a minor thing, I added a new field type to indicate if a field is only used by the schema to pull data from | 20:04 |
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| gibi | thanks for the comments, I will check them tomorrow | 20:04 |
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| gibi | but please note that the later patches in the series are not updated to the new first patch version that I have to do tomorrow | 20:04 |
| * bauzas is lurking on his sofa | 20:04 | |
| gibi | hi bauzas | 20:05 |
| gibi | anyhow I feel happy about the direction | 20:05 |
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| gibi | does anybody has any big issues regarding the current patches? | 20:06 |
| rlrossit | not sure if alaski has looked at the most recent ones with his suggested changes | 20:06 |
| alaski | I have not | 20:06 |
| rlrossit | but he would be a good one to get input from | 20:06 |
| gibi | hi alaski :) | 20:06 |
| alaski | hi :) | 20:06 |
| gibi | alaski: thanks for the idea! | 20:07 |
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| alaski | sure. I'm babysitting right now but I will take a look when I can | 20:07 |
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| rlrossit | I don't think you're supposed to sit on it :P | 20:08 |
| gibi | alaski: no worries, thanks! | 20:08 |
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| ogelbukh | /j #fuel | 20:08 |
| ogelbukh | oops, sorry about that | 20:08 |
| alaski | rlrossit: heh, I'll remember that for next time | 20:08 |
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| gibi | :) | 20:08 |
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| gibi | so if no current issues then lets move forward | 20:09 |
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| gibi | #topic midcycle | 20:09 |
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| gibi | The question is do we want a session on the mid cycle? I think I can get approval for my trip so I can cha | 20:09 |
| gibi | ir session if there is interest | 20:09 |
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| rlrossit | I don't think I will be approved to go :( | 20:09 |
| bauzas | in general, we have like friday meetups | 20:09 |
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| alaski | I think it's worth discussing at the midcycle | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | so it's rather an etherpad of ideas that we're incrementally consuming | 20:10 |
| alaski | yeah, much more informal | 20:10 |
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| bauzas | but given the interest you had during the summit, I feel some time could be found at the midcycle :) | 20:10 |
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| gibi | ok, then I will make the arrangements | 20:11 |
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| gibi | #agreed to have mid-cycle discussion | 20:11 |
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| gibi | #action gibi to set up an etherpad to gather discussion topics for the mid-cycle | 20:12 |
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| gibi | cool then this topic was a short one :) | 20:13 |
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| gibi | then we are at the bottom of the agenda | 20:13 |
| gibi | #topic open discussion | 20:13 |
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| gibi | anything to raise, discuss, or debate? :) | 20:13 |
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| rlrossit | I still want something to write :) | 20:13 |
| rlrossit | but don't want to until we have the bottom settled | 20:14 |
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| rlrossit | just want to keep you aware of that ;) | 20:14 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: I think right now it is better to review what we have and let your ideas help the bottom settled :) | 20:14 |
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| gibi | but I noted that you want to help | 20:14 |
| gibi | and that is appriciated | 20:15 |
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| gibi | as I said last week there is two big notifiaction in the scope to transform | 20:15 |
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| rlrossit | I'm also out the rest of the week for US Thanksgiving, so I'll be noting as much as possible in the reviews in the last hours of my week today. | 20:16 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: happy | 20:16 |
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| gibi | rlrossit: happy Thanksgiving | 20:16 |
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| gibi | I will iterate on the review comments this week so you will have a fresh set of patches to look at on Monday | 20:17 |
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| rlrossit | hopefully I won't be drowsy from turkey on monday still! | 20:17 |
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| gibi | :) | 20:18 |
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| gibi | anything else? | 20:19 |
| * gibi feels like it will be a shorter meeting than expected | 20:19 | |
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| * rlrossit agrees | 20:19 | |
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| rlrossit | must've ironed it all out in the ML | 20:20 |
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| gibi | yes, it is a good thread | 20:20 |
| gibi | then if nothing else then I close the meeting | 20:20 |
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| gibi | thank you all | 20:21 |
| rlrossit | thanks gibi! | 20:21 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 20:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 24 20:21:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:21 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-11-24-20.00.html | 20:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-11-24-20.00.txt | 20:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2015/nova_notification.2015-11-24-20.00.log.html | 20:21 |
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