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rkukuraHi ML2’ers16:01
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rkukuraWho’s here for ML2 today?16:04
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rkukuralooks like we are skipping the ML2 meeting today - I expected a light turnout due to the neutron sprint16:08
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rkukuraI see a few ML2’ers here now, but I think we’ll skip today’s meeting due to light turnout.16:16
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Kiall#startmeeting Designate17:00
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openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 24 17:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'designate'17:00
KiallHey folks - Who's about today?17:00
elarsono/17:00
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federico3o/17:00
Kiall#link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Designate17:00
Kiallmugsie / timsim / vinod1 - about?17:00
timsimo/17:00
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Kiallmlavalle is at the neutron mid-cycle, so won't be around17:01
ducttape_o/17:01
KiallOkay.. A few short.. No worries :)17:01
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ducttape_how many are in the neutron mid-cycle?17:02
Kiall#topic Action Items from last week17:02
KiallUhm, 1 item, carried over twice, on me.. Document datbase rework goals.17:02
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KiallI've still not managed time to get knock that out yet :( It *will* happen before the next meet17:02
Kiall#action kiall Really do the DB rework write up..17:02
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Kiall#topic Bug triage (timsim - recurring)17:03
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/146398817:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1463988 in keystonemiddleware "oslo.config version error in kilo" [Undecided,New]17:03
Kiallducttape_: about 15 from the looks of the Neutron etherpad17:03
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timsimI think this is confirmed?17:04
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Kialltimsim: that's open against KS middleware, but it seems there's some argument that we're doing it wrong! Unsure right now17:04
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timsimYeah. lifeless was the one who pointed that out17:05
mugsieyeah. i think confirmed for us is ok17:05
KiallYea, while he may be right.. I think there's still an issue that the KS middleware package's kilo branch isn't capping it's requirements to kilo versions17:05
timsimI'll move to confirmed in the Designate bits17:05
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timsimAgreed17:05
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/146626517:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466265 in Designate "designate python client is not showing proper help message when authentication environment variable are missing" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to pradeep kumar singh (pradeep-singh-u)17:05
timsimI think this is a dupe of....17:06
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/126831017:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1268310 in python-designateclient "Cryptic message if keystone is missing an endpoint for designate" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Kiall Mac Innes (kiall)17:06
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mugsiehigh, triaged17:06
timsimWell not quite...17:06
KiallI think there different, one is where designate is missing from the catalog17:06
mugsieits related, but separate17:06
Kiallvs not supplying creds to access the catalog17:06
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timsimI'll move it to the client, high, triaged?17:06
mugsie++17:06
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/146630017:07
openstacktimsim: Error: malone bug 1466300 not found17:07
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Kialltimsim: private security issue, move to public + High17:08
timsimok17:08
timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/146654517:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466545 in Designate "Zone filtering by TTL, Description & Status" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mimi Lee (mimi-lee)17:08
KiallIt's not something exploitable, just  that a security feature is too secure (and lets nobody in ;))17:08
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mugsielow, l-1, triaged17:09
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mugsiel-2*17:09
mugsieseen as l-1 just got released17:09
Kialll-1? lol that was released earlier today.17:09
timsimIt's pretty important, we could backport ;)17:09
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timsimhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/146664917:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466649 in Designate "Cannot filter on blacklists, records, & tlds" [Undecided,New]17:10
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KiallSame again I think17:10
mugsieI think we need to start returning 400 bad request when we are asked to filter by stuiff that is not supported17:10
Kiallmugsie: ++17:10
timsimagreed mugsie17:10
mugsieinstead of just ignoring it17:11
Kiallright now, we discard the extra filters and process as if they didn't get supplied.17:11
timsimWould you do the honors of filing that mugsie?17:11
KiallWhich just isn't right :)17:11
timsimThat's all the bugs :)17:11
mugsietimsim: sure17:11
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KiallOkay, while we're on "bugs" - I've tagged a bunch low-hanging-fruit, people probably saw my mail spam, we should start keeping that up to date too :)17:12
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KiallI think most of jmcbride's ended up with that tag ;)17:13
timsimYeah that's a good thing to have17:13
KiallOkay - Moving on to a new recurring section :) Intro this week, rather than starting it this week17:13
Kiall#topic Stable Backport triage (kiall - recurring)17:13
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KiallI'd like to see us actually start maintaining the stable branches! Better for everyone if known bugs are fixed in the stable release, distros will love us, production clouds will too ;)17:14
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KiallSo - I'd like to suggest that, each week, we take 5 mins to review the changes landed the previous week and nominate changes for backport. I'll produce a list of these each week, starting from today for next weeks meeting - to keep it short.17:15
KiallThoughts?17:15
elarson+117:15
mugsiesound sane17:15
mimi+117:16
timsimGood idea17:16
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Kiallhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11768802/ <-- Current diff from kilo -> master17:16
federico3+1 I'd suggest to advertise that stable releases are maintained and for how long17:17
KiallToo many to go through in the meeting today, but if we can review offline and propose backports for  stuff before today17:17
mugsiefederico3: we maintain stable branches for 1 year by default in OpenStack17:17
Kiallfederico3: there's a doc on that, somewhere I cant remember right now17:18
mugsiebut juno will be supported for a bit longer (in debian at least)17:18
KiallPhase I (first 6 months): All bugfixes which are appropriate17:18
KiallPhase II (6-12 months): Only critical bugfixes and security patches are acceptable17:18
KiallPhase III (more than 12 months): Only security patches are acceptable17:18
Kiallfrom https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch17:18
ekarlsoo/ btw17:18
KiallHey ekarlso :)17:18
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KiallOkay, so, expect to find a etherpad link in the Agenda before next weeks meeting, it will have the the commits in it.. We can tear through them, not 1 by 1, but individually, and then come back and nominate + assign17:19
KiallOkay - Moving on :)17:19
Kiall#topic Ceilometer / Zone Exists Spec (kiall)17:20
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Kiall#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188018/17:20
Kialland the first piece of this17:20
Kiall#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19390917:20
KiallI'd like to make sure everyone is happy with the spec, and that it's merged before we start merging code ;)17:20
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Kiallekarlso's been working on these for the last few days, I hope to see it all done + merged before we meet again :)17:21
KiallSo - Can people go review that spec ;) Not necessarily right now, but soon pls!17:22
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timsimI looked at that spec once, but I'd like to do so again, will put it on my list for this afternoon17:22
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mugsieyeah, me too17:22
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mugsiehave time this evening / tonight, so will do a spree of reviews17:23
Kiallthanks - also  timsim - vinod is great at finding issues, if he's in the office ask him to aswell please :)17:23
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KiallAlso - It's totally failing test right now - but stuff like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194705/ has become 100x easier once Tooz is in :)17:24
KiallOkay, moving on from my plee for reviews :P17:24
Kiall#topic Open Discussion17:24
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timsimWill do, I think he's travelling from india. Will get him a message17:24
Kialltimsim: he better delay his flight to get it done! ;)17:25
Kiallkidding.. Leave him be!17:25
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KiallOkay Any other off agenda topics from others?17:25
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KiallI have one - welcome federico3 :) He's joined HP this week on the DNS team..17:25
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Kiallfederico3, I'm gonna put you  on the spot and ask you to introduce yourself  ;)17:26
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timsimo/ federico317:26
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federico3hello everybody :D17:27
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Kiallducttape_: still about? re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193800/ -  new Horizon repo testing.. How familar with Django testing etc are you guys? Because I know nothing ;) I'm hoping we can try and clean up + extend the tests once that lands.17:27
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ducttape_I am familiar, I have the scars to show17:28
ducttape_;)17:28
ducttape_running django tests are weird, at least for most of the horizon stuff.   I'm 100% of favor in updating tests, I have not so far, b/c I didn't have the threat of verification jobs17:29
Kiallducttape_: lol, that's how I feel looking at the current limited tests :) I'm hoping someone who knows how it *should* look can help us out to rework it, then we can actually just follow the right patterns for new stuff.. Know anyone who might be able to help? ;)17:29
ducttape_yeah I can do that.  I didn't download that patch and work on it just yet17:29
ducttape_it's similar (from what I saw) to what monasca is also doing17:30
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ducttape_I work with both of those things, can try to get something working17:30
KiallI think that one should land as is - then enable the gates - and start any cleanup/rework/new tests.. Everything passes with that change, so it's a good point to turn the voting gate jobs on at17:30
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ducttape_+117:30
ducttape_from there we can just worry about increasing coverage17:30
KiallOkay - thanks ducttape_ :) much appreciated17:31
KiallOkay - Any other off agenda items? I'm out17:31
elarsonKiall: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192267/17:31
Kiall(out of off agenda stuff)17:31
ducttape_I would say thank you, but it means I will have to really worry about tests :p17:32
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mugsiemid-cycle - if we are having one we need to start planning17:32
mugsiegive people time to badger management / book stuff17:32
Kiallelarson: Ah, I thought I replied to you on that one and voted +2.. I must have forgot the last bit17:32
elarsonKiall: ah ok.17:33
KiallOnce you explained, it made perfect sense. It's the edge case for during initilization rather than the norm :)17:33
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elarsonright.17:33
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* Kiall quickly adds his +217:33
elarsonI do think a pre-logging loaded bit could generally be helpful, but I can submit that to oslo_log17:33
elarsonKiall: thanks!17:34
Kiallelarson: yea, that works :)17:34
Kiallmugsie: yep, mid-cycle.. Anyone have thougts on that one?17:34
Kiall#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints17:34
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KiallI'm guessing nodoby can commit to anything right here today, but, anyone interested in doing one, let's get that conversation going with your managers ;)17:35
KiallAnyone able to say "Yep, I'm interested" yet?17:35
* elarson is interested17:36
KiallThat's a no then... Okay, will circle back to this next week.. Think about it so :)17:36
Kiall#action put mid-cycle on next week agena17:37
KiallAnything else before we call it a day?17:37
KiallOkay, thanks all.. See you in #openstack-dns :)17:38
Kiall#endmeeting17:38
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SlickNik#startmeeting trove18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 24 18:00:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SlickNik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'18:00
vkmc_o/18:00
ashleighfarnhamgreetings18:00
cp16nethai18:00
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sushilkmHello all18:00
peterstachello all18:00
georgelorcho/18:00
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SlickNikMeeting agenda at:18:01
SlickNik#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting18:01
dougshelley66o/18:01
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SlickNik#topic Trove pulse update18:01
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SlickNik#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-pulse-update18:01
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atomic77\-O-/18:02
shayneburgess_hey everybody18:02
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SlickNikLooks like we're at ~150 this week, which is a bit higher than our running average (~120)18:03
cp16netahh yeah18:03
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SlickNikSo keep up the momentum.18:04
edmondko/18:04
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SlickNikAny questions regarding this?18:04
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SlickNikAlso while we're on the topic of reviews — I've proposed a custom gerrit dashboard for Trove18:05
SlickNik<link in a second>18:05
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SlickNik#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192939/18:05
mvandijk_o/18:05
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SlickNikNow just need to get some reviews on that :P18:06
sushilkmLooks good18:06
vgnbkro/18:07
SlickNikAny other feedback on reviews?18:07
johnmaI think I missed the earlier part of this but this dashboard is added where ?18:08
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cp16netin the project dashboard list18:08
cp16netits easier to link...18:08
cp16net#link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/trove,dashboards18:09
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SlickNikthanks cp16net18:09
johnmaoh ok, awesome. sounds good. Thanks cp16net.18:09
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cp16netnp18:10
SlickNikOkay — let's move on.18:10
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SlickNik#topic Liberty-1 tagged and released18:10
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SlickNikWe tagged and released liberty-1 yesterday.18:10
cp16netw00t! looks like lots of bugs were crushed18:10
* SlickNik high fives everyone around18:11
cp16net#link https://launchpad.net/trove/liberty/liberty-118:11
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SlickNikYup, hope to make an equally large dent on those bps for liberty-2 :)18:11
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SlickNik#info Liberty-2 is during the week of July 27-3118:12
SlickNik#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule18:12
SlickNikSo we have ~5 weeks.18:13
dougshelley66there is certainly an opportunity to get a bunch of features in for that18:14
SlickNikBy default, I've moved out the bps that weren't finished in liberty-1 to liberty-2 — please let me know if there's a BP you're working on that's tagged for Liberty-2 that won't make it.18:14
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cp16netyeah and we have lots of reviews already up18:14
vkmc_about that, do we have any priorities?18:15
SlickNikvkmc: I was going to use the custom dash to star reviews to set priorities.18:16
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vkmc_cool :)18:16
cp16netSlickNik: but staring priorities is just for your acct18:16
dougshelley66cp16net, except if you are PTL18:17
dougshelley66;)18:17
dougshelley66check out the code for the dashboard18:17
cp16netrealy?18:17
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SlickNikcp16net: yes, check out the dash.18:17
* cp16net needs to look before typing...18:17
SlickNikWe can extend that to the core-team, but I thought at least trying it out with me on there was a start.18:18
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shayneburgess_+1 I think it will help to have you star stuff to bring to everyones attention18:18
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cp16netahh thats a really cool way of doing that18:19
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SlickNikThematically, the biggest priority I think is extending our datastore implementations to include clustering, backup /restore and user / db mgmt.18:19
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SlickNikWill keep the list updated as we go along.18:21
dougshelley66i guess we just need the dash merged18:21
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cp16neti just realized this dashboard  maybe a little different than the ones we had before18:21
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SlickNikdougshelley66: Yes, I'll reach out to the powers that be to see if I can help get it merged soon.18:22
cp16netits in a separate location from how we created them last time18:22
SlickNikcp16net: yes, it will be part of review.o.o — last time we created one out of band.18:23
cp16netso are the others ones going to stay?18:23
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cp16netmaybe so since they are inheritied from All-Projects18:23
SlickNikThe other ones on review.o.o will stay18:24
cp16netk18:24
SlickNikThis will be in addition to that.18:24
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SlickNikOkay, that's all I had for this topic.18:25
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SlickNik#topic Open Discussion18:25
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SlickNikAnyone have a topic for Open Discussion?18:26
cp16netyeah...18:26
SlickNikcp16net: the floor is yours18:26
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cp16netso would it make sense to some how include spec approvals in a report for weekly or milestones?18:27
cp16neti am thinking it could be overkill but it could be useful info to others18:28
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SlickNikcp16net: I think you just volunteered yourself. :)18:28
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cp16netsince we put in time on those just wondering about the usfulness of something like that18:29
cp16netwould anyone get anything out of it or just over look it?18:29
cp16netbueller?18:30
SlickNikcp16net: It might be useful — it's fairly easy to do in a gerrit query (perhaps we can make it part of the custom dash)?18:30
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SlickNikspecs merged in the last 7 days18:30
shayneburgess_I think it would be useful18:30
vkmc_it sounds good18:31
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cp16netso it sounds like maybe 3 people would look at it...18:31
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cp16neti guess thats better than 0 or 118:31
shayneburgess_for every one person that speaks up there are 10 that keep silent so I count 3018:32
vkmc_haha shayneburgess_++18:32
sushilkm+118:32
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cp16netok i think that math is a little off but sounds worth taking a shot at18:33
SlickNikcp16net: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/trove-specs+-age:1week+label:Workflow%253E%253D%252B1,n,z18:33
cp16net#action cp16net look at adding trove-spec approvals to weekly report18:33
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SlickNik^^ specs that merged in the last week.18:34
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cp16netSlickNik: link was 50018:34
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SlickNikcp16net: You need to be logged in :P18:34
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cp16neti think that means we broke with with how many specs we approved.18:34
cp16net:-P18:34
SlickNiklol18:34
cp16neti am logged in18:34
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cp16netoh there is worked18:35
sushilkmit even works widout login18:35
cp16netoh well18:35
cp16nettite18:35
SlickNikawesome, sounds good.18:35
SlickNikAnything else?18:36
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cp16neti got nothing else18:36
vkmc_not from me18:37
SlickNikI've got an FYI before we adjourn.18:37
SlickNikI'm starting to put together an agenda for the mid-cycle sprint18:37
SlickNikWill be updating the page at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveLibertySprint with more details.18:38
SlickNik#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/TroveLibertySprint18:38
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dougshelley66sounds good18:38
SlickNikWill have an item at the next weekly meeting to go over this in more detail.18:38
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SlickNik#action SlickNik to come up with initial agenda for Liberty Mid-Cycle sprint.18:39
SlickNikThat's all I've got.18:39
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SlickNik#endmeeting18:40
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amrithbye all!18:40
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vkmc_thanks o/18:40
cp16netthx bai18:40
SlickNikThanks all! Have some time back.18:40
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shayneburgess_thanks SlickNik18:40
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lifelessKiall: yes there is still an issue18:54
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