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| sc68cal | hi all | 15:04 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:05 |
| SridharG | hello | 15:05 |
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| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:05 |
| aveiga | hi | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 17 15:05:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:05 |
| dboik_ | hi | 15:05 |
| * sc68cal is having some odd computer problems - trackpad is broken | 15:06 | |
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| sc68cal | My agenda is pretty light again, mostly because this is the last week for things to be merged | 15:07 |
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| sc68cal | So I'll just open the floor for discussion, for anyone who has questions or concerns about code reviews that are in flight | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | also my trackpad appears to be broken, so I'll add some people to the chair to help facilitate | 15:08 |
| sc68cal | #chair aveiga haleyb | 15:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: aveiga haleyb sc68cal | 15:08 |
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| haleyb | great :) | 15:09 |
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| haleyb | In case people haven't noticed, Kyle is starting to -2 things, so get your +2's lined-up | 15:09 |
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| haleyb | ipv6 PD seems one of the victims so far, but there is always FFE | 15:10 |
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| baoli | I'm hoping that PD can get an FFE | 15:11 |
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| haleyb | yes, it is close. i think is we want the changes for ipv6-router in we'll have to move fast as well - i did have more comments on those today that can maybe be answered quickly | 15:13 |
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| absubram | haleyb: thanks for all the reviews! Will address the new ones shortly | 15:14 |
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| absubram | you had a question about adding the RA? | 15:14 |
| haleyb | absubram: i guess after re-reading the blueprint it wasn't clear you were adding RA, but I'm not against it | 15:14 |
| absubram | haleyb: great thanks! I will update the commit message though | 15:15 |
| absubram | what about your and Xian’s comments about the link-local check for the gateway? | 15:15 |
| haleyb | will it "play well" with PD? For example, if we enable a bunch of options will they cause each other problems? | 15:15 |
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| baoli | haleyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156283/13/neutron/agent/l3/agent.py. Regarding the comments from you and Xiang Hui: if it's not link-local, then the default route wont' be able to get installed successfully because there won't be route to the prefix. | 15:16 |
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| baoli | if an explicit prefix is needed on the GW port, one can configure one subnet on the gw port | 15:16 |
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| haleyb | absubram: well, you can have a non-link-local gateway by the RFCs... but with that comment I see what you mean - the route add will fail with -ENETUNRACH | 15:17 |
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| baoli | haleyb: it won't affect PD | 15:17 |
| haleyb | baoli: thanks, i haven't ever tried all the ipv6 changes together | 15:18 |
| baoli | haleyb: on the other hand, if RA is enabled, then the GW port will get an IP address and default route if the upstream router has RA turned on. | 15:18 |
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| baoli | haleyb, so basically for IPv6, an explicitly configured v6 subnet (as v4) on the gw port is rarely needed | 15:19 |
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| haleyb | baoli: so in the case of RA, does that need to be a config option? For example, you don't need ipv6_gateway if you're using RA, correct? | 15:19 |
| haleyb | baoli: yes, regarding prefix on gw port | 15:20 |
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| baoli | haleyb, since this is a router with forwarding turned on, the accept_ra config option has to be 2 in order for RA to be processed by the neutron router | 15:20 |
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| absubram | haleyb: I think you are correct there.. which is why I assumed that if ipv6_gateway is configured, the user hasn’t enabled RA on the upstream :) | 15:21 |
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| haleyb | baoli: right. but you can't just enable RA, which seems like you should | 15:21 |
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| baoli | haleyb: can you clarify? | 15:22 |
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| haleyb | Sure, should the config be "learn default route from RA" or "use this value"? i guess you get that by not setting ipv6_gateway, so maybe the help text just needs clarifying | 15:24 |
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| absubram | haleyb: yes I think I will clarify the comment for the config.. but yes, if the config is enabled, it means the upstream router doesn’t have RA enabled | 15:25 |
| absubram | and like I do in code, if ipv6_gateway is not set, it means RA is enabled | 15:25 |
| haleyb | the .ini file text mentions the router must send RAs, but maybe it should also say we will get the info from it | 15:25 |
| absubram | ah ok | 15:25 |
| absubram | gotcha | 15:25 |
| haleyb | i was reading the code more than that big comment :) | 15:26 |
| absubram | hehe ok | 15:26 |
| absubram | thanks again for all the insights! I will put a new version real soon | 15:26 |
| absubram | and we’re good otherwise on the RA and the LLA check comments yes? | 15:26 |
| haleyb | i will but a comment in the ini file, but i think you know what i mean now | 15:27 |
| absubram | haleyb: sure thing | 15:27 |
| absubram | but yes I know what you mean now :) | 15:27 |
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| haleyb | absubram: yes, i'm fine on the LLA, although i'm sure in the future someone will try and use a global for the router | 15:28 |
| haleyb | i'm not saying to change it since it won't work as things are now | 15:28 |
| haleyb | no need to ship something that can be configured broken | 15:29 |
| absubram | ok.. I agree :) | 15:29 |
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| absubram | I will make sure the comment again is updated to spcify that it needs to be an LLA (for right now) | 15:30 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge_: have a question - may or may not be dumb - but I keep getting hung up on the API workflow for PD - having a user create a subnet of ::/64 seems like a bit too much "magic" and will be hard to explain to users. Do you think we should think about an API extension that does the workflow steps you specify on behalf of the user, so the user facing API hides some of the complexity? | 15:30 |
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| sc68cal | so the user has an API like "just give me an IPv6 subnet, here's my tenant ID" and then Neutron does the heavy lifting | 15:31 |
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| john-davidge_ | sc68cal: That's what we originally proposed, but the response from many was that a change to the API was best avoided, hence we went with the 'magic' cidr | 15:32 |
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| john-davidge_ | sc68cal: We had origianlly wanted something along the lines of a 'pd_enabled' flag in the subnet-create api | 15:33 |
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| sc68cal | Right- but that's the core API, I'm thinking an API extension | 15:33 |
| sc68cal | which should avoid the concerns they probably raised | 15:33 |
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| baoli | sc68cal: any suggestion on how the API extension would look like? | 15:35 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: Probably really simple. Something where the user just POSTS their tenant ID and credentials, and neutron goes and does the workflow that john-davidge_ documents in his patch | 15:37 |
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| sc68cal | POST /prefixes/delegate | 15:37 |
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| baoli | sc68cal, but how does this prefix is associates with a neutorn subnet | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | Most likely the prefix object just contains like two fields, of which one is the subnet_id | 15:38 |
| baoli | sc68cal: then how the subnet api gets changed so that it doesn't require a CIDR any more | 15:39 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: You could still do the workaround that john-davidge_ 's patch does, putting in the ::/64 to keep the rest of neutron happy | 15:40 |
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| sc68cal | until you get the prefix from upstream | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | like you do currently | 15:40 |
| sc68cal | Just a thought, I just keep thinking the dreaded question someone's going to ask "Why do I create a subnet of ::/64 and set this flag and then later that subnet changes to a different CIDR"? | 15:42 |
| sc68cal | "Why isn't there an API where I just request a PD and neutron does this stuff for me?" | 15:42 |
| baoli | sc68cal: let's call it a two api approach, so subnet-create ::/64 says I need to create a subnet but I dont' know its prefix, then the second API (extension) says get the prefix using the PD mechanism. | 15:43 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: That is a good summary | 15:43 |
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| sc68cal | anyway, sorry to hijack the discussion, please feel free to ignorem e | 15:46 |
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| absubram | are we done? :) | 15:56 |
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| sc68cal | Guess so | 15:57 |
| sc68cal | sorry I killed it :( | 15:57 |
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| sc68cal | ok everyone, until next week! | 15:58 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 15:59:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-03-17-15.05.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-03-17-15.05.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-03-17-15.05.log.html | 15:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 17 16:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-03-17_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
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| sdake | o/ | 16:00 |
| juggler | here | 16:00 |
| Tango | o/ | 16:01 |
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| diga | Digambar Patil | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | hi diga sdake Tango juggler | 16:01 |
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| sdake | looks like we are missing our army of developers today | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | hi hongbin | 16:02 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: hi Adrian | 16:02 |
| juggler | hey all | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | ok, there are six of us, so I'll get started here in one moment | 16:03 |
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| adrian_otto | there is an error in the Agenda I am correcting | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-03-17_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, that's all fixed. Let's start! | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | PTL election will be announced today. | 16:05 |
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| sdake | nice who will be officiating? | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | I am looking around to find an election official who does not have an interest in the election | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | so as soon as I have a suitable choice for that, we will proceed. | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | watch the ML for that. | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | any other announcements form team members? | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | s/form/from/ | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, action item review is next | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto to update the team about the outcome of plans to move heat-kubernetes to Stackforge | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE. Outcome: Name: heat-containers. Lars will be creating a heat-containers repo in Stackforge. | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059264.html heat-container Team Update | 16:07 |
| sdake | heat-coe-templates i think | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | coe? | 16:08 |
| sdake | is what larsks came up with | 16:08 |
| sdake | container orcheetartion engine | 16:08 |
| sdake | i spammed out 20 names | 16:08 |
| sdake | thats the one he picked :) | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | oh, ok | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | that names seems as good as any | 16:08 |
| juggler | thanks for the explainer. i thought common operating environment originally. :) | 16:08 |
| sdake | I expect larsks will send a note to the ml once the repo is in stackforge | 16:08 |
| adrian_otto | ok, cool. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | next action... | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | 2) adrian_otto to open a bug ticket for a new feature to set heat stack creation timeout on bay create, with Magnum's default value in our config and a per-request override for Magnum users to use upon Bay creation. | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1433109 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1433109 in Magnum "Pass stack timeout parameter to Heat" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | that is a wishlist item | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | anyone looking for a relativley easy work item, consider that one | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | questions on that one? | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | hi jay-lau-513 | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | things seems to be running pretty smoothly in the review queue, so I did not pick out any in particular to call out | 16:11 |
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| adrian_otto | are there any work items that may benefit from team discussion today? | 16:11 |
| sdake | I could use a bone offline | 16:11 |
| jay-lau-513 | hi adrian_otto | 16:11 |
| sdake | i got a ton of shit on my plate | 16:11 |
| sdake | and I'm not sure what I committed to at midcycel | 16:11 |
| sdake | but I'll do that work, I just don't recall what it was | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+magnum,n,z Our Review Queue | 16:12 |
| diga | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1432502 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432502 in Magnum "Tech Debt: Add cluster_type field in baymodel" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15) | 16:12 |
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| diga | This is a withslist item I have filed | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | I marked https://review.openstack.org/164971 as WIP for you diga. | 16:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's have a look at 1432502 | 16:13 |
| diga | okay | 16:13 |
| hongbin | As I commented, the cluster_type should be in baymodel | 16:14 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes | 16:14 |
| jay-lau-513 | baymodel is a better place | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | the commit message of https://review.openstack.org/164971 should be linked to https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1432502 with a closes-bug: NNNN on the last line | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432502 in Magnum "Tech Debt: Add cluster_type field in baymodel" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15) | 16:14 |
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| hongbin | I think it is good to add 'supported_cluster_types' to config | 16:15 |
| hongbin | for validation purpose | 16:15 |
| diga | I am implementing the backend for it | 16:15 |
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| diga | will submit patch today EOD | 16:16 |
| adrian_otto | hongbin: so Magnum may have implementations for an A-Z list of types, but the operator may restrict that list to X, Y, Z? | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | or are you thinking of some way to surface new types? | 16:16 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: I think so... | 16:16 |
| hongbin | I think the type should be validated | 16:17 |
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| hongbin | since users could give a wrong type | 16:17 |
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| adrian_otto | good point | 16:17 |
| diga | In this case, type should be defined in the common/constants | 16:18 |
| hongbin | diga: I am fine with that option too | 16:18 |
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| diga | okay | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | Any more discussion on this topic? | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | hi larsks | 16:20 |
| larsks | Howdy. | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | we mentioned you earlier | 16:20 |
| jay-lau-513 | when we plan to move larsks repo to stackforge? | 16:20 |
| adrian_otto | sounds like a name was selected for the new stackforge repo | 16:20 |
| larsks | jay-lau-513: We are waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164806/ to be approved. | 16:20 |
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| adrian_otto | we might want to add a reply to the http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059264.html thread to correct the name | 16:21 |
| jay-lau-513 | larsks I see | 16:21 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/164806 heat-coe-templates review in project-config | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | larsks: thanks for submitting that! | 16:22 |
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| adrian_otto | any more discussion on that topic? | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | we are currently in Blueprint/Task Review so let's take a look at the bp list | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://launchpad.net/magnum/+milestone/k3 K3 Blueprints | 16:24 |
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| adrian_otto | apmelton opened https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/multiple-bay-templates | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | but we are awaiting an implementation proposal for that | 16:25 |
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| adrian_otto | we also have about a dozen BP's in new status | 16:26 |
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| adrian_otto | the k-3 milestone for OpenStack is scheduled to go into a code freeze on Thursday | 16:26 |
| adrian_otto | we discussed this at the Midcycle and decided that we really don't need to freeze at this stage | 16:27 |
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| adrian_otto | so I am thinking about putting the liberty series and l1 milestone into Launchpad | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | and starting to target work into that | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | thoguhts on what to consider there? | 16:28 |
| adrian_otto | I'm also open to suggestions for the themes for the Liberty release | 16:28 |
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| adrian_otto | our code coverage could use some attention | 16:28 |
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| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto what do you think the priority of scheduler and network for native docker container? | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | good question… | 16:30 |
| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto seems we did not have much progress on this | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | we are in a good situation because we do have the k8s implementation | 16:30 |
| jay-lau-513 | k8s has its own scheduler | 16:31 |
| adrian_otto | right | 16:31 |
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| jay-lau-513 | but it is just one backend for magnum | 16:31 |
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| adrian_otto | so I expect that Swarm will catch on, particularly for users who like imperative workflow definition rather than declarative orchestration definitions. | 16:32 |
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| jay-lau-513 | we have many backends, and native docker seems to be a very important one | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | it allows for a lower level of control and custimization | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | customization… likely to resonate with the devops types who are currently excited about Docker. | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | whereas k8s is more attractive for users who don't want as much control | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | and prefer a highly opinionated system | 16:33 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | so having support for both will help us in the lng run | 16:33 |
| diga | we have decided to go with swarm for docker, right ? | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | I did learn something interesting about Swarm | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | diga, yes, as a start | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | it can be integrated with Mesos for scheduling | 16:34 |
| diga | okay | 16:34 |
| jay-lau-513 | a very big picture :) | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | so the ability to have an external scheduler could be something that we could leverage when we have a Gant based scheduler | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | without the need to pour a bunch of work into Swarm directly that may not port to the general case uses | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | so that's another indication that Swarm is a low risk choice for a native docker backend | 16:35 |
| diga | sounds good | 16:35 |
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| adrian_otto | I don't have pointers to the source for that, but I expect that won't be hard to find | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | ideally we see about using the same protocol for interacting with Swarm | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | and vice versa | 16:37 |
| diga | I am talking to swarm team on that part, also have started working with them | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | cool, that's good | 16:37 |
| diga | :) | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | have you been in touch with apmelton as well? | 16:37 |
| jay-lau-513 | diga can you append some discussion to the bp of magnum scheduler for docker? | 16:37 |
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| jay-lau-513 | diga I want to get some detail and also want to help | 16:38 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-scheduler-for-docker | 16:38 |
| diga | sure jay-lau-513 | 16:38 |
| jay-lau-513 | adrian_otto yes diga cool, looking forward to your sharing | 16:38 |
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| diga | adrian_otto: haven't get chance to discuss with apmelton | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | I also encourage you to use the ML as well for that, as we have interested parties in a number of different timezones | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | so I'd like to see how we can get efficient and clear idea sharing | 16:39 |
| jay-lau-513 | yes, ML is a good choice | 16:39 |
| diga | sure, will do that | 16:39 |
| jay-lau-513 | to share ur dicsussion with mesos team | 16:39 |
| adrian_otto | diga: please see if you can reach him this week. Let me know if you want an email intro as well. | 16:39 |
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| diga | yes, that will be big help for me | 16:40 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any other blueprint topics? | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | I'll open us to Open Discussion otherwise | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:41 |
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| diga | network support for native docker ? | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | diga, that one we should discuss in Vancouver | 16:42 |
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| adrian_otto | we should begin to write down our thoughts and have a few concrete proposals to debate there | 16:42 |
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| sdake | adrian_otto any chance you can send me a list of my commits for our next milestone expected? | 16:42 |
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| jay-lau-513 | good, actually, we write an internal driver for native docker with some neutron integraiton | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: yes, I can follow up with you | 16:43 |
| sdake | thx | 16:43 |
| diga | adrian_otto: okay | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | we know of three viable approaches: 1) Integrate Magnum with an existing overlay tool like flannel or weave | 16:43 |
| sdake | we probably needa blueprint to integrate with heat-coe-templates | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | 2) Integrate Magnum directly with Neutron for leverage of the infra layer SDN | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | sdake +1 | 16:44 |
| sdake | i'll file after meeting - need someone to own it - should be all the authors of the templates | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | larsks: do you want to file a BP for that, or would you prefer if one of us did? | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | 3) Look as a Docker specific approach (socket plane, etc.) | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | we could possibly have hybrids of those three approaches as well | 16:45 |
| hongbin | +1 for hybrids | 16:45 |
| diga | adrian_otto: 1. Integration of magnum with flannel/weave will be good for now +1 | 16:46 |
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| larsks | adrian_otto: I am happy to have sdake or someone file the bp... | 16:46 |
| jay-lau-513 | diga adrian_otto flannel seems good enogh for now | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | we do have some flannel capability in now, selected because Linux distros seem to have that included in their packaging systems simplifying installation. | 16:47 |
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| jay-lau-513 | but hybrids can be the final goal | 16:47 |
| adrian_otto | weave is also very easy to install as a binary | 16:47 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, operators are going to want the ability to plug in different network setups | 16:47 |
| sdake | seems like a good goal for liberty | 16:48 |
| diga | jay-lau-513: yep | 16:48 |
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| hongbin | brb | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | yes, so maybe container-to-container networking, Docker native backend, and expanded test coverage would be a good triplicate theme for Liberty. | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | we don't have functional gate testing set up with devstack yet | 16:49 |
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| adrian_otto | so that would be something to look at as well | 16:49 |
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| sdake | that usually takes 6-12 months to develop after a project has been in development for 6 months | 16:50 |
| sdake | which we are at about - so now is the time to start :) | 16:50 |
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| GumBall | DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0 | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | yep! | 16:50 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so if any of you think we should begin heading in another direction, please let me know so we can begin planning now | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | feel free do follow up individually too | 16:52 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, looks like this is a good time to wrap up for today | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is scheduled for 2015-03-24 at 2200 UTC. I look forward to seeing you then! | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending. | 16:54 |
| jay-lau-513 | see u | 16:54 |
| jay-lau-513 | bye | 16:54 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| juggler | thanks | 16:54 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 16:54:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-17-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-17-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-03-17-16.00.log.html | 16:55 |
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| sergmelikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 17 17:00:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sergmelikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:00 |
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| sergmelikyan | Hi folks! | 17:00 |
| kzaitsev | Hello everyone | 17:00 |
| freerunner | Hi there! | 17:00 |
| sergmelikyan | He-he: Meeting started exactly at 17:00:00 | 17:00 |
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| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:02 |
| Radek | hi | 17:02 |
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| pashkin | Hello! | 17:04 |
| henar | hi | 17:05 |
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| sergmelikyan | o/ | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | Let's begin with action items? | 17:06 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:06 |
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| sergmelikyan | #1 kzaitsev, plans to check tool for testing translation tool introduced in Horizon: https://review.openstack.org/142239 | 17:07 |
| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, any news on that? | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev | I'm on a mobile client, so I might be a bit slow to answer. Although I hope it will not be the problem. | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev | Yep. The tool from horizon seems good | 17:08 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, so it suits us, and we can have same thing in Murano? | 17:09 |
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| kzaitsev | It's exactly what I've been looking for. I have tried to use it to translate murano-dashboard, but I haven't succeeded yet | 17:10 |
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| sergmelikyan | kzaitsev, thank you :) | 17:10 |
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| sergmelikyan | #topic PTL Election | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL Election (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:11 | |
| kzaitsev | Also it is going to be good for manual tests, but most likely useless for integration tests, since most of strings in tests are hard coded. | 17:11 |
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| sergmelikyan | I think today results from PTL election are going to be announced and we will | 17:11 |
| sergmelikyan | have officially announced PTL | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev | Sorry for being slow to answer. I'll continue working on the topic. Will turn it into a bp this week. | 17:12 |
| sergmelikyan | :P | 17:12 |
| sergmelikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:12 | |
| sergmelikyan | Folks if you have some specific topic to discuss now is the right moment to discuss them | 17:13 |
| sergmelikyan | henar, thank you for jumping in with code-reviews it is really helpful! | 17:14 |
| henar | :-) | 17:15 |
| sergmelikyan | henar, and diversity is changing with each day ;) | 17:15 |
| henar | we are really busy with fiware, but more collegues will contribute asap | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | Radek, we are working on improving contribution to Murano from big features, to stable contribution with reviews and changes. It makes contribution to Murano diverse, and it is a way to become core-contributor | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | Cause one of the requirements is a solid knowledge of Murano and solid review contributions (that demonstrate knowledge) | 17:16 |
| sergmelikyan | We need more core-reviewers! | 17:17 |
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| henar | one question.. how to become a core-reviewer? | 17:18 |
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| sergmelikyan | Kilo release is quite soon, and we need to improve development speed, I expect to have all features merged by end of the week (which is end of K3), and at the same time beginning of feature freeze | 17:18 |
| Radek | the same questions as henar - how to become a core reviewer? | 17:20 |
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| sergmelikyan | henar, usually one of the existing core contributors sending e-mail to the openstack-dev@ proposing to add to the core-reviewers one of the contributors, if more than half of existing members are voting for this contributor, contributor gets to core-reviewers team | 17:21 |
| Radek | are there any 'scopes' (engine, ui,....) for core reviewers? | 17:21 |
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| sergmelikyan | Radek, scope is all Murano projects | 17:21 |
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| sergmelikyan | Usually contributors with high review metrics, and valuable reviews are proposed. Usually metrics are checked here: http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/murano-group/30 | 17:24 |
| sergmelikyan | and here http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/murano-group/90 | 17:24 |
| sergmelikyan | So nothing specific, just steady review and commits contributions. | 17:24 |
| henar | ok, thanks | 17:24 |
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| sergmelikyan | Radek, henar you guys are awesome, you have implemented number of big features in Murano, but we missing steady reviews | 17:25 |
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| henar | understood | 17:25 |
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| sergmelikyan | By the way, about ending Kilo cycle... | 17:29 |
| sergmelikyan | henar, Radek, we need to start working on Roadmap for the Liberty, do you guys already have some exact plans? | 17:29 |
| henar | about the finalization of the features? | 17:30 |
| sergmelikyan | about new features for the next release cycle | 17:31 |
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| henar | yes | 17:31 |
| sergmelikyan | Yes :) | 17:31 |
| henar | we need to create the lanchpad and so on, right? | 17:32 |
| sergmelikyan | etherpad :) | 17:32 |
| Radek | hi serg, I was disconnected. So I missed last 5 minutes. Anyway I'll ask Filip (as he is high in the metrics) to become core reviewer | 17:32 |
| sergmelikyan | We need to have plans for discussions on the summit and schedule discussion topics. I am not sure that we will have specific room for our project, but I am pretty sure that we will figure something out | 17:33 |
| sergmelikyan | Radek, thank you! | 17:33 |
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| sergmelikyan | Radek, I would like to ask you to re-publish specs under your name, I made mistake creating them for you. If you don't mind, can you publish same specs but under your (or Filips) name? | 17:34 |
| sergmelikyan | I will abandon my commits | 17:34 |
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| Radek | ok | 17:34 |
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| Radek | it means - push them (via review) to murano-specs - am I right? | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | Radek, yes | 17:35 |
| Radek | ok | 17:35 |
| sergmelikyan | If they will be merged as is it right now, it will be counted as my contribution, which is totally wrong. | 17:36 |
| sergmelikyan | Regarding we are going to discuss roadmap for the next cycle, I will send e-mail later on this week, but we should start thinking about features. | 17:36 |
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| sergmelikyan | *Regarding how... | 17:37 |
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| sergmelikyan | #action sergmelikyan, send e-mail describing roadmap planning procedure | 17:37 |
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| katyafervent2 | sounds good | 17:40 |
| katyafervent2 | will we have bug scrub some day? | 17:40 |
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| sergmelikyan | I propose to have a bug-scrub after k3, since after k3 focus is shifted verification & bug fixing | 17:41 |
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| katyafervent2 | so the next week should be fine? | 17:42 |
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| sergmelikyan | katyafervent, I think so :) | 17:44 |
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| katyafervent2 | cool | 17:45 |
| henar | ok | 17:45 |
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| katyafervent2 | no more topics for today? | 17:47 |
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| sergmelikyan | I don't have any :) | 17:51 |
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| sergmelikyan | We can finish a little bit earlier today :) | 17:51 |
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| sergmelikyan | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 17:54:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-03-17-17.00.html | 17:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-03-17-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting solum | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 17 21:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-03-17_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: solum)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum' | 21:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: solum)" | 21:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:00 |
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| gpilz | Gilbert Pilz | 21:00 |
| phiche | good evening! | 21:00 |
| phiche | Philip Cheong | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
| james_li | james li | 21:01 |
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| akshayc | Akshay Chhajed | 21:01 |
| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | Hi gpilz phiche datsun180b james_li akshayc mkam | 21:02 |
| akshayc | hi adrian_otto | 21:02 |
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| adrian_otto | we will begin in just a moment. | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | let's begin! | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | There are no prepared announcements on the Agenda. Any announcements from team members today? | 21:04 |
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| datsun180b | not from me | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | it is time to hold a PTL election | 21:04 |
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| adrian_otto | so I'm planning to announce an opening for candidates once I secure an election official | 21:05 |
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| datsun180b | that's a big deal | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | having an election official? We had one before | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | I'm just going to ask her to do it again | 21:06 |
| datsun180b | having an election | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | well, we'll hold an election if a new PTL needs to be selected | 21:06 |
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| adrian_otto | if no candidates surface, then the election can be skipped, as we have in the past. | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | I'm willing to continue in that role, if you will have me. | 21:07 |
| james_li | +1 | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | so expect to see something on that today or tomorrow | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | on our mailing list | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements form team members? | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | s/form/from/ | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: solum)" | 21:08 | |
| adrian_otto | we did not record any action items. | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Task Review (Meeting topic: solum)" | 21:08 | |
| adrian_otto | ok, so on this topic we have a number of new bugs that are opening up in Launchpad | 21:08 |
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| adrian_otto | based on expanded use of Solum | 21:09 |
| datsun180b | we had some fun on Friday | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | yes, indeed | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | so if you are looking for ways to help with Solum, I encourage you to watch the bug queue here: | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum Bug/Task Queue | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | I will be cleaning up the fix committed ones to fix released | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | so that list will shrink… but look for ones in new/triaged states | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | that do not have an Assignee yet | 21:10 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | also, if you find a bug that you know you can fix, but has an assignee but no recent updates, I urge you to post a comment on the bug | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | and ask if the assignee wants to keep it, or maybe pass it to you. | 21:11 |
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| adrian_otto | cool, so this is the part of the meeting where we can zero in on specific work items | 21:12 |
| akshayc | what features are planned for kilo? | 21:12 |
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| adrian_otto | akshayc: let me grab the link to the roadmap for you.. one sec. | 21:12 |
| akshayc | it will be nice to have a few samples for quick setup | 21:12 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/HighLevelRoadmap#Milestone:_Kilo | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | the things you will see soonest will be a more streamlined CLI than previous releases | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | with more of a focus on the concept of "app" | 21:13 |
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| adrian_otto | operator supplied language packs are new | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | and there is a related repo in Github for language specific LPs | 21:14 |
| akshayc | ok.... are we planning to have some demos for these features? | 21:15 |
| akshayc | s/demo/demos | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | at ODS? | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | or in screencast format? | 21:15 |
| akshayc | sample config deployment | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | the ODS sessions have not yet been selected by the conference committee | 21:16 |
| akshayc | that will be good | 21:16 |
| akshayc | or just doucmentation/write up | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | there is some of that on the Wiki today | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | but that will need to be updated to match the changes in the CLI | 21:16 |
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| akshayc | ok.... | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | akshayc: were you thinking of something along these lines: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/CLI | 21:17 |
| datsun180b | yes, i'm slated to spec out some changes to the api to reflect that newcli doc in the wiki | 21:17 |
| akshayc | ok datsun180b | 21:17 |
| datsun180b | ideally i'd like to submit the app-focused api changes spec, and the corresponding cli changes as a spec, both to our solum-specs repo | 21:18 |
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| kebray | akshayc, also worth taking a look at the "New CLI" proposal if you haven't. link here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/FeatureBlueprints/NewCLI | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | I'd also like to tag a release on Thursday | 21:20 |
| akshayc | ok.... | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | so I'm open to hearing your guidance on what might be on review that we want to get in there first. | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+solum,n,z Our Review Queue | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | with some known bugs opening, I'm willing to delay a release if that makes sense | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts? | 21:21 |
| datsun180b | i think it makes sense to delay | 21:21 |
| akshayc | what do you think is still missing for the release? | 21:21 |
| kebray | adrian_otto, you speaking about release of new python client? | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | no, I meant solum | 21:22 |
| datsun180b | we've got a little bit of triage to do following Friday's digging and there may be a couple high-priorities we haven't codified as bugs yet | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | we can release the client on every commit as long as it is backwards compatible | 21:22 |
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| adrian_otto | but in terms of tagging a version of solum along with a named feature set, that's next | 21:23 |
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| akshayc | cool.... | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok, other discussion on work items? | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | if not I can advance us to open discussion | 21:25 |
| akshayc | i was thinking of adding a new lib 'sh' | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:25 |
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| adrian_otto | akshayc: can you elaborate please? | 21:26 |
| kebray | adrian_otto, has anyone approached you about cutting a new release of the CLI in the past few business days? | 21:26 |
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| akshayc | at the moment, we are using bash to perform tasks.... using sh will provide a cleaner way | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | oh, no | 21:26 |
| adrian_otto | the trouble with having bash scripts is that they are next to impossible to unit test cleanly | 21:27 |
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| adrian_otto | the same applies to sh | 21:27 |
| akshayc | i meant sh lib in python | 21:27 |
| adrian_otto | I'd prefer to see that stuff converted to python code with unit tests for all of it | 21:27 |
| akshayc | sorry for the confusion | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sh ?? | 21:27 |
| akshayc | yep | 21:28 |
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| james_li | akshayc: have you checked this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132381/5/contrib/lp_builders/common/shell.py ? | 21:28 |
| james_li | ravi implemented in one of his previous patches | 21:29 |
| datsun180b | thought ravi was working on debashing a lot of our worker process | 21:29 |
| akshayc | yes, i have.... but we still use subprocess for eg git tasks | 21:29 |
| akshayc | i am trying to take over from where he left off | 21:30 |
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| james_li | akshayc: yeah. we will need to add more things to Ravis framework | 21:30 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so for things like a git subshell, I agree that would be an improvement. | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | right you are, i lost the plot. just took me a little while | 21:31 |
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| akshayc | has anyone had any experience working with sh? | 21:32 |
| akshayc | s/sh/python sh | 21:32 |
| datsun180b | not that module | 21:32 |
| akshayc | especially any particular issues | 21:32 |
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| james_li | akshayc: its not in global req | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | what's the license? | 21:33 |
| adrian_otto | MIT | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I have no objections on licensing grounds. | 21:34 |
| datsun180b | solum's already got soft_requirements set, so sh not being in global-reqs shouldn't be a show-stopper | 21:34 |
| adrian_otto | right. | 21:35 |
| akshayc | cool | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | I would be interested in how other projects deal with this. | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | so let's please consider that before going our own direction | 21:35 |
| adrian_otto | is there anything in oslo or oslo-incubator for that? | 21:36 |
| akshayc | ok.... | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | doesn't seem like it's incompatible | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | how to projects like Heat deal with it (if at all)? | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | beats me | 21:36 |
| james_li | akshayc: I would say let's use subprocess for git clone first, we can migrate to 'sh' if we find it is reliable and needed | 21:37 |
| adrian_otto | this would make a good topic for an ML thread | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ#Incorporating_BSD.2FMIT_Licensed_Code | 21:37 |
| akshayc | openstack-dev? | 21:37 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, with [Solum] prefixed on the subject line | 21:37 |
| akshayc | james_li .... thats what i am doing right now.... | 21:37 |
| james_li | cool | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | think we've been beaten to that punch | 21:38 |
| adrian_otto | datsun180b: yes, MIT, BSD and Apache2 are all compatible | 21:38 |
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| akshayc | ok.... i will send a mail to the mailing list.... lets see if there are alternatives | 21:39 |
| james_li | thanks | 21:40 |
| adrian_otto | thanks akshayc | 21:40 |
| akshayc | james_li i am adding some functions to deal with the git tasks | 21:40 |
| akshayc | currently using subprocess..... | 21:41 |
| akshayc | but build_app is pretty big | 21:41 |
| datsun180b | what sort of tasks? | 21:41 |
| akshayc | git clone, add | 21:41 |
| akshayc | i am currently working on adding ssh keys for private repos | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | i've got some recent changes to the CLI i may or may have not submitted already that does some uploading of private keys | 21:43 |
| james_li | akshayc: maybe you already considered this, we need a timeout for git clone command | 21:43 |
| datsun180b | i did it with http requests and didn't have to drop into shell | 21:43 |
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| james_li | datsun180b: there are some other git commands in the bash | 21:44 |
| akshayc | james_li i missed that one.... i will look into that | 21:44 |
| datsun180b | well you'd know better than me | 21:44 |
| james_li | git archieve for example | 21:44 |
| james_li | akshayc: thanks! | 21:44 |
| akshayc | we have a lot of work for simple things like getting the hash of current head | 21:45 |
| james_li | yes | 21:45 |
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| adrian_otto | akshayc: what's your primary motivation? Are you working to make solum run more efficiently, simplify the code, make it easier to test or debug? Something else? | 21:46 |
| akshayc | simplify the code | 21:47 |
| james_li | and testable | 21:47 |
| james_li | we had issues like running commands as sudo | 21:47 |
| akshayc | (haven't got to testing yet but that too) | 21:47 |
| james_li | so we need to convert those bash to python for sure | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | ++ | 21:48 |
| adrian_otto | any other topics for discussion today? | 21:49 |
| akshayc | we need to restructure lot of code | 21:49 |
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| akshayc | nothing in particular | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | if it's okay with all of you we can wrap up for today | 21:50 |
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| james_li | ok with me | 21:50 |
| datsun180b | sounds good, thanks all | 21:50 |
| akshayc | restructure with respect to bash to python move | 21:50 |
| james_li | sure | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | Our next meeting is scheduled for 2015-03-24 at 2100 UTC. | 21:50 |
| adrian_otto | I look forward to seeing you all then | 21:51 |
| akshayc | i am good too..... | 21:51 |
| akshayc | cool | 21:51 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks for attending today. | 21:51 |
| akshayc | i will send the mail | 21:51 |
| akshayc | thanks all! | 21:51 |
| phiche | ciao | 21:51 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 21:51:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2015/solum.2015-03-17-21.00.html | 21:51 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2015/solum.2015-03-17-21.00.txt | 21:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum/2015/solum.2015-03-17-21.00.log.html | 21:51 |
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