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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 16 16:01:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:01 |
| jecarey | o/ | 16:01 |
| redrobot | o/ | 16:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | our agenda: | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for jd__, dims, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti, dansmith | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith | 16:01 |
| bknudson | lol | 16:01 |
| sileht | o/ | 16:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | yo yo | 16:02 |
| dims | o/ | 16:02 |
| bnemec | \o | 16:02 |
| dansmith | what is the emoticon for "here, but with a phone up to my other ear" ? | 16:02 |
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| dhellmann | isn't there an emoji for that? | 16:03 |
| dansmith | \Oj | 16:03 |
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| dansmith | lol | 16:03 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:03 |
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| dhellmann | I see no actions logged from last week | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | did I miss any? | 16:03 |
| jd__ | o/ | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | yes, I wasn't looking in the right place | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-09-16.02.html | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | #info add oslo-config-generator to priority work for Liberty | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | that has no name attached to it | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | #info amrith to drive trove to use oslo.log | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | amrith: how is that looking? | 16:05 |
| amrith | dhellmann, yes, that is underway | 16:05 |
| amrith | having a little trouble | 16:05 |
| amrith | with getting logging.register_options() plumbed into the right places. | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | ok, let the rest of the team know if you need help with reviews | 16:05 |
| dims | dhellmann: probably mine, guess we need to start a priority list etherpad for liberty? (do we have one already?) | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that should go right before the cfg.CONF() calls | 16:05 |
| amrith | dhellmann, yes. not yet ready for review. | 16:05 |
| amrith | ok, dhellmann thanks. I was doing a binary search to find the right place ;) | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | dims: we don't, but maybe we can build on the summit planning pad? | 16:06 |
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| dims | dhellmann: ok, let me find it | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | amrith: oh, wow, yeah please let me know if you need some pointers. I want to make sure those docs are clear. | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-summit-planning | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | dims: ^^ | 16:07 |
| dims | thx | 16:07 |
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| dhellmann | #info dims to collect items to review after feature freeze | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | that last item was for bug-fix priorities | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-kilo-final-bug-list | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | I don't see the database handle-after-a-fork issue there, unless that's what #2 is | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1417018 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] | 16:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] | 16:09 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417018 | 16:09 |
| dims | dhellmann: done | 16:09 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya, afaik thats the forking issue | 16:09 |
| bknudson | he he | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | forking issue indeed. | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | dims: that's done? was it in the last oslo.db release? | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, u looked at the service code and pondered over it; any ideas on how to truely fix that (maintain a list of sockets somewhere that can't be closed?) | 16:10 |
| dims | dhellmann: i meant i updated the liberty-oslo-summit-planning page, apologies | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: I had hoped we could come up with a way to register callbacks to close before a fork and reopen after, but that may be cumbersome | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | dims: ah, sorry, mis-threaded your comment :-) | 16:10 |
| sileht | harlowja_at_home, my feeling is that the process launcher class should take a class and not a object | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | it looks like zzzeek's patch to oslo.db merged | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | but it's not released, so we need to backport that to the stable branch | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | can we get a volunteer to backport the db connection handling fix to oslo.db stable/kilo? | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | sileht: yes, that would work better, too | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | sileht, likely, i'd almost like to treat any open sockets/things as bugs, and not have anything opened till after fork | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | sileht: or a callable, in case args need to be provided to create the instance | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | that fixes the bug (but is a bigger challenge to fix) | 16:14 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: we could write a new launcher that works that way | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | agreed | 16:14 |
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| dhellmann | who wants to backport the existing fix for us so we can release oslo.db 1.7.1? | 16:15 |
| dims | dhellmann: i can help with that | 16:15 |
| bknudson | is it more than a backport? looks like oslo-incubator is affected? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1417018 | 16:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] | 16:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | it should be easy, since that's the only difference between master and the stable branch :-) | 16:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1417018 in oslo.db "Cinder encounters dbapi error: NoSuchColumnError: "Could not locate column in row for column '%(140070887032400 anon)s.volumes_id'"" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417018 | 16:15 |
| dims | dhellmann: ack | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | #etoomanybots | 16:15 |
| bknudson | openstack and uvirtbot are tripping over each other | 16:15 |
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| dhellmann | bknudson: I think I added the incubator to the bug because that's where the service code is. The existing patch in oslo.db is a stop-gap or work-around or whatever, so it helps but isn't a complete solution. | 16:16 |
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| dhellmann | changes to the service launcher or forking code will be in the incubator, until we graduate that code | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | #action dims set up backport of oslo.db fix for after-fork handling of connections | 16:18 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I think that's it for old business | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:18 |
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| bknudson | none from keystone that I can think of. | 16:18 |
| bknudson | smooth sailing. | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | how are we looking going into feature freeze? aside from the trove work, does anyone need help? | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, i can try to look into what may be better for service.py (examine exsting libraries...., see if any of them fit, and if not, then i guess we have to create/adapt ours)... | 16:19 |
| bknudson | harlowja_at_home: what are existing libs you're thinking of? | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, let's see; i made an etherpad somewhere, let me see if i can find it ,lol | 16:19 |
| bknudson | (not that it really affects keystone since we're getting rid of eventlet anyways) | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: None for Cinder other than the issue already discussed. Just working on finishing up incubator clean-up. | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: ok. changing too far from what we have may require a level of rewrite in the other projects that would mean getting a bunch of other people on board, so keep that in mind. that said, using other libs where we can is good. | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | jungleboyj: sounds good. We'll get that oslo.db release cut asap. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:20 |
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| GheRivero | none for ironic. Clean-up from incubator and migrating to oslo.log | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-py-replacements | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | GheRivero: sounds good - let us know if you run into issues with any of those changes | 16:22 |
| bknudson | harlowja_at_home: neat, thanks. | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, additions/comments welcome | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: maybe you can turn that into a spec for liberty? | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | it looks like a lot of options to evaluate | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, sure | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | cool | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | ok, let's move on then from issues | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | #topic Feature freeze | 16:23 |
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| dhellmann | #info we have stable branches for all of the libs now so it should be safe to make changes in master | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | #info we should be focusing on bug fixes leading up to the release candidate period | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | so, while it's *safe* to keep working on master, we should be focusing on bug fixes over features for now | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | at least prioritizing them when we find them | 16:24 |
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| bknudson | so kilo is going to be using whatever's in stable now ? | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | dims' work on the deprecation warnings last week is a great example of that | 16:24 |
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| bknudson | not going to update global-requirements with any new features? | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: I have a patch up to update the g-r, just a sec | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162656/ | 16:25 |
| bknudson | which will prevent K using new features. | 16:25 |
| bknudson | good. | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | dhellmann, i was going to release taskflow 0.8 today (about time, ha); don't expect any issues there, should i move the stable/kilo to that, or just leave it be (this really has features that rackspace, stackforge projects... are using/want) | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | yes, but not bug fixes | 16:26 |
| bknudson | then there's a release of all these libs with x.y+1.0 | 16:26 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: ok, I wish we had done this last week. | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, i was avoiding the friday release :-P | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: if those features aren't released, no kilo code will be using them, so we should make sure that version is not introduced into the stable/kilo branch | 16:27 |
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| zzzeek | o/ for 10 minutes | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | k, that's fine i think | 16:27 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not even sure we should release them into master at this point, because of the approaching freeze for the other projects | 16:28 |
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| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: do you have a list of what's in the release? | 16:29 |
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| harlowja_at_home | hmmm, i can get one/make one, lol | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: is it everything that's not released right now? that's a looong list | 16:30 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, thats the list :-P | 16:30 |
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| dhellmann | ok. I think it's going to be safer to wait to release that until the rest of the projects are unfrozen :-/ | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok, whens that | 16:31 |
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| bknudson | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 16:31 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ok, so this week i guess? | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | the first RCs will be cut early in april | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | after we cap requirements in master releasing the lib won't do anything because projects won't see it | 16:32 |
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| harlowja_at_home | right | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | and we won't release that cap until after their stable branches are cut | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | so maybe just waiting until after we have that cap landed in all of the projects would be long enough | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems fair to me | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | I obviously don't know when that will be, but we're trying to get the g-r piece done today | 16:33 |
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| bknudson | good luck getting through the gate. | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool, sputnik13 and a few others will be happy if that's possible i think, lol | 16:34 |
| sputnik13 | RC of..? | 16:34 |
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| harlowja_at_home | sputnik13, nova, glance... | 16:35 |
| sputnik13 | zookeeper? | 16:35 |
| sputnik13 | oh | 16:35 |
| sputnik13 | :) | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if we should have a designated release manager for next cycle, so we have one person doing all of the releases to coordinate schedules like this? I did most of them last week, but left a few up to the primary maintainers and it looks like that means at least one slipped through the cracks :-/ | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | sputnik13: release candidates of the integrated projects | 16:35 |
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| sputnik13 | icic | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | we would want someone who gets up early on monday mornings :-) | 16:36 |
| * jungleboyj needs to step away. | 16:36 | |
| harlowja_at_home | early u saw :-/ | 16:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | *say | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm thinking the maintainers would say "lib X is ready for a release" and so this person would just push the right buttons | 16:37 |
| sputnik13 | how early is early | 16:37 |
| dims | dhellmann: let me add it to the liberty-oslo-summit-planning etherpad | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | just a thought, we can talk about that | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | dims: good idea | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | sputnik13: europe or us eastern morning? | 16:38 |
| GheRivero | not early but being in Europe, it's earlier than in Americas... but later than Asia :/ | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | GheRivero: yeah, that's a good point | 16:39 |
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| dhellmann | maybe we should make tuesday release day, so we can talk about them at the meetings | 16:39 |
| dims | normal morning europe time is good enough i feel | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | anyway, this is a good session topic for the summit | 16:39 |
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| dims | dhellmann: added to "Reviewing our release processes" session | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | dims: thanks | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | ok, we have a couple of other things to cover this week | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | #topic requirements mangement policy | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/157135 | 16:40 |
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| dhellmann | this topic saw some interest on the mailing list, and we have some feedback on the review | 16:40 |
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| bnemec | I still think we need a resolution on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153966/ before we can make any decisions. | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | I would appreciate it if all of the liaisons would take a few minutes to read it and comment, so we can get a sense of how other projects handle the issue | 16:41 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: I think they're related, but I'm not sure that's the direction of the dependency. If we need a way to specify extra requirements then we need to figure out what that implemenation looks like, but not the other way around. | 16:42 |
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| dhellmann | based on the feedback I've seen so far, I'm leaning towards moving the test requirements back out of requirements.txt for the next cycle | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | which does mean we need some other solution, but I don't know yet what that is | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | #topic test tooling policy | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/158787 | 16:46 |
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| harlowja_at_home | what about an 'oslo.fixtures' library that has the fixtures for all the oslo libraries (this is with regard to the test/fixtures stuff); so that oslo.db fixture would be in there, so would .... | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | #undo | 16:46 |
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| * harlowja_at_home just thinking out loud | 16:46 | |
| harlowja_at_home | i know we didn't want 2x the number of libraries, so just have one 'bigger' oslo.fixtures (with each libraries fixtures in it) | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: that would have a lot of other dependencies on all of those other libs, so introducing it into the test requirements of an app would bring in all of oslo | 16:46 |
| harlowja_at_home | meh | 16:47 |
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| dhellmann | it would also mean that lib would have to be allowed to use private interfaces, because that's frequently how we implement the fixtures | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | I don't see an issue with including the fixtures in the libs that use them, and saying that to use those fixtures you might have to install another package | 16:47 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok | 16:48 |
| bnemec | Sane optional dependencies would solve all these problem. :-/ | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | and that leads nicely to the next topic :-) | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | #topic test tooling policy | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/158787 | 16:48 |
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| dhellmann | this is the policy that says we won't use test base classes for new testing features | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | and if we stop doing that, then the fixtures really only depend on the fixtures library, which really minimizes the issue | 16:48 |
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| bnemec | +1 | 16:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems fair to me | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: yes, the question is how to specify those optional dependencies in some sort of sane way in the consuming project | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | the issue with the policy is the existing places that we do have unit test base classes, but I think that's mostly oslo.db right now | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | we'll need to review our existing test tools and see where we might need to provide new ones | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | or modify them | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | it would be good to have someone focused on this next cycle | 16:51 |
| dims | no easy answers :( | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | so we make sure we actually resolve all of the open questions and make a list of the changes needed | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: you have a lot of interest in this, are you willing to take the lead? | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | dims: if it was easy, anyone could do it :-) | 16:52 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: We're talking about the base test class -> fixtures thing, right? | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: resolving how we're going to manage test dependencies, and then the base class -> fixtures changes | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | not doing all of the work yourself, necessarily, but making sure we resolve all of the questions and understand what work does need to be done | 16:53 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Sure, I can do that. | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: great, thanks | 16:53 |
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| dhellmann | #info bnemec will be the lead for the test requirements and fixtures cleanup initiative | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | ok, we just have a few more minutes | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 16:54 |
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| dhellmann | is there anything that didn't make it onto the agenda that we should discuss? | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | we should start doing more planning for the summit, soon. Get your specs written! | 16:55 |
| * dims all good | 16:55 | |
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| harlowja_at_home | go beat up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164035/ | 16:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:55 |
| harlowja_at_home | i mean, be tender to it, lol | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: yes, thank you for that, I'll put it on my review list | 16:56 |
| * dhellmann needs to write a similar spec about the python 3 porting work | 16:56 | |
| harlowja_at_home | sounds like another fun spec, lol | 16:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | *fun* | 16:57 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it'll take a while to pull the details of what our dependencies support together | 16:57 |
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| * bknudson interested to see if other projects are willing to get rid of eventlet in api servers. | 16:57 | |
| harlowja_at_home | the hole just gets deeper otherwise imho if they don't | 16:58 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: I'm interested to see if it actually gives us useful performance benefits over the options. | 16:58 |
| * harlowja_at_home will add a section on why its not just performance that matters, but the ability to move between container models (apache, ...) that eventlet is also acting as a barrier to making happen | 16:59 | |
| dhellmann | harlowja_at_home: ++ | 16:59 |
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| dhellmann | alright, good meeting, thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
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| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 16 17:00:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-16-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-03-16-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello L2-GW folks | 18:00 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: hi | 18:01 |
| Sukhdev | is maruti going to join us? | 18:01 |
| selvakumar | Hi Sukhdev | 18:01 |
| selvakumar | yes | 18:01 |
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| yamahata | hello | 18:01 |
| Sukhdev | We will wait for a minute or so for others to join in | 18:02 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - lets get started | 18:03 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_l2gw | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 16 18:03:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw' | 18:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 18:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Agenda | 18:04 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Project Status | 18:04 |
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| Sukhdev | armax is not going to be able to join us today | 18:05 |
| Sukhdev | Looks like maruti is late to the party | 18:05 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: Can you provide the update? | 18:05 |
| selvakumar | yes Sukhdev : we can start | 18:05 |
| selvakumar | Action item from previous week | 18:06 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Item from previous week | 18:06 |
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| selvakumar | on document the users guide to deploy the L2-Gateway service , we have raised a review | 18:06 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164639/ | 18:06 |
| selvakumar | in gerrit and I is under review | 18:06 |
| Sukhdev | I saw this earlier this morning | 18:07 |
| selvakumar | Today Alok filed a defect in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/1432495 | 18:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432495 in networking-l2gw "L2 gateway connection creation is failing" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to MANJUNATH PATIL (mpatil) | 18:07 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: Great start - | 18:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1432495 in networking-l2gw "L2 gateway connection creation is failing" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1432495 in networking-l2gw "L2 gateway connection creation is failing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432495 | 18:07 |
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| selvakumar | now everyone can able to consume the l2gateway code in devstack | 18:07 |
| Sukhdev | Great - so, it is available for general consumption | 18:08 |
| selvakumar | yes it is available , and Alok has started filing the defect from today | 18:08 |
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| Sukhdev | Is Alok here? | 18:09 |
| selvakumar | for deployment we just need to follow the .rst document thats it! | 18:09 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: I started to look at the document that you wrote | 18:10 |
| Sukhdev | one question for you | 18:10 |
| selvakumar | yes Sukhdev : please ask me | 18:10 |
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| Sukhdev | So, if I want a virgin deployment of L2 GW | 18:11 |
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| Sukhdev | I update the devstack as per suggestion in the document - do I need to pull any packages or the script does it all for me? | 18:11 |
| selvakumar | no need to pull any packages | 18:12 |
| selvakumar | devstack script does the trick | 18:12 |
| selvakumar | https://github.com/stackforge/networking-l2gw/blob/master/devstack/README.rst | 18:12 |
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| Sukhdev | cool - another question | 18:12 |
| selvakumar | yes | 18:13 |
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| Sukhdev | In the initial implementation, does it support multiple gateways? | 18:13 |
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| selvakumar | yes we have supported multiple gateways | 18:13 |
| Sukhdev | Cool - so I can connect neutron networks to multiple external networks, right? | 18:14 |
| selvakumar | yes very much possible Sukhdev: | 18:15 |
| Sukhdev | good - thanks for clarification | 18:15 |
| Sukhdev | Looks like Alok is not here - wanted to ask him about his testing | 18:15 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: thanks for the update | 18:17 |
| Sukhdev | this is looking pretty good | 18:17 |
| selvakumar | okay Sukhdev: | 18:17 |
| Sukhdev | I notice vikas is not here either | 18:17 |
| Sukhdev | I reviewed his patch about the script to start the agent | 18:18 |
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| selvakumar | yes he is not there ... he has posted a patchset for create the debian package and install the l2 gateway code | 18:18 |
| selvakumar | any concerns over that patch Sukhdev:? | 18:18 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: no concerns - just clarification. | 18:19 |
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| Sukhdev | Does your document refer to his script? | 18:19 |
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| selvakumar | our document predominately focussed based on devstack | 18:19 |
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| selvakumar | after stack.sh , networking-l2gw code will be deployed in /usr/local/lib/* | 18:20 |
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| selvakumar | Vikas patch focussed on packaging (debian) | 18:20 |
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| Sukhdev | Yes, that is correct - | 18:21 |
| Sukhdev | wanted to make sure that the same config knobs are addressed in both cases | 18:21 |
| Sukhdev | in other words, there are no disconnects | 18:21 |
| selvakumar | yes I do agree | 18:21 |
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| selvakumar | we request you to to follow the step as per .rst for deployment and let us know in case of concerns/issues | 18:22 |
| Sukhdev | Yes, will do - now that we have code ready | 18:23 |
| selvakumar | yes now pending things are : | 18:23 |
| selvakumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z | 18:23 |
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| selvakumar | and we will start fixing the defects | 18:24 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/networking-l2gw,n,z | 18:24 |
| selvakumar | picking from launchpad nowonwards | 18:24 |
| Sukhdev | I will add the link to the launchpad to the wiki - for easy access for the readers | 18:25 |
| selvakumar | okay sure Sukhdev: | 18:25 |
| Sukhdev | Most of the patches are regarding testing - which is a good sign | 18:25 |
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| selvakumar | yes and that patches are depends on CI testing . Alok will have an update .. I will ask him to update in Wiki | 18:26 |
| selvakumar | about CI status | 18:26 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: cool - thanks | 18:27 |
| Sukhdev | Also, I noticed maruti also update the wiki with steps for deployment | 18:28 |
| Sukhdev | That was good | 18:28 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Testing | 18:28 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: I wanted to chat about testing a bit | 18:28 |
| selvakumar | yes sure we can discuss | 18:28 |
| Sukhdev | can you explain your test setup - i.e. the test environment | 18:29 |
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| selvakumar | our test environment consists of one controller node, one network node (where l2gateway agent resides) , one compute node and Switch with OVSDB support | 18:30 |
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| Sukhdev | network node is running on a separate compute node? | 18:32 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: so you have bare metal server behind the switch | 18:34 |
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| selvakumar | I am back | 18:35 |
| Sukhdev | i wondered what happened? | 18:35 |
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| selvakumar | network got disconnected | 18:35 |
| Sukhdev | that explains:-) | 18:36 |
| Sukhdev | were you able to see my question? | 18:36 |
| selvakumar | sorry for the inconvenience | 18:36 |
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| selvakumar | could you please repost again? | 18:36 |
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| Sukhdev | so, in your test setup, your network node is running on a different compute node? | 18:37 |
| selvakumar | what I was saying is we need to have one deployment diagram like GBP does(https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy/blob/master/doc/source/usage.rst) | 18:37 |
| selvakumar | network node is a separate node with DHCP and l3 services are running | 18:37 |
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| Sukhdev | Do you have a diagram that you can share? | 18:38 |
| selvakumar | in compute node we spawn a VM with VXLAN network for external connectivity | 18:38 |
| selvakumar | I will update in the as part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164639/2/doc/source/usage.rst | 18:38 |
| selvakumar | soon | 18:38 |
| Sukhdev | good - | 18:38 |
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| Sukhdev | another question that I had asked, which you missed because of disconnection - | 18:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Do you have a bare metal server behind the switch? | 18:40 |
| selvakumar | yes we do have that is linux box | 18:40 |
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| Sukhdev | so, you launch a VM on the compute node and you ping between the linux box and the VM | 18:41 |
| selvakumar | Alok and team had validated the end to end functionality (VM -> Bare metal and Bare metal to VM ping worked) in our internal setup | 18:42 |
| Sukhdev | we are missing Alok :-):-) | 18:42 |
| selvakumar | that is based on back ported juno code. In stackforge code they have filed a defect in lauchpad | 18:42 |
| selvakumar | yes :) | 18:42 |
| Sukhdev | so, VM is in vxlan and bare metal is on VLAN, and they are able to ping, right? | 18:43 |
| selvakumar | yes right | 18:43 |
| Sukhdev | both compute node, bare metal are connected to the same switch, right? | 18:44 |
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| selvakumar | yes Sukhdev | 18:44 |
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| selvakumar | right now only VXLAN network for VM is supported for rest of the network type our plugin throws error when we connect network to the logical gateway. | 18:44 |
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| Sukhdev | oh - I was going to ask VLAN to VLAN - | 18:45 |
| Sukhdev | how come? why non vxlan type network gives exception? | 18:45 |
| selvakumar | that still we have not supported as of now | 18:45 |
| selvakumar | may be next release we will start working on this | 18:46 |
| Sukhdev | is there issue in the tag swapping in the L2 agent? | 18:46 |
| Sukhdev | I would have thought vlan to vlan would be straight forward, no? | 18:47 |
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| selvakumar | it is not straight forward , basically our switch side needs support for this | 18:48 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: is this something specific to the HW in the switch or some functionality is missing in the L2 GW agent? | 18:49 |
| selvakumar | basically we need to see how we can make work with existing OVSDB hardware VTEP schema | 18:50 |
| Sukhdev | understood - got it... | 18:50 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you have any question | 18:50 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: nothing from me for now. | 18:50 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: This was great conversation | 18:50 |
| selvakumar | Thanks Sukhdev | 18:51 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: do you plan on testing this? | 18:51 |
| selvakumar | for let us summarize the action item on us | 18:51 |
| yamahata | Sukhdev: I'll try. But I can't promise. | 18:51 |
| Sukhdev | yamahata: Good. | 18:52 |
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| Sukhdev | yamahata: we need more and more vendors jump on board to test this | 18:52 |
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| yamahata | Sukhdev: sure. Defeinitvely | 18:52 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: you were going to summarize - please go on | 18:53 |
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| selvakumar | Vikas - README on debian packaging and installation document Selva- update the testing/deployment setup in usage.rst Alok - update the CI progress in wiki L2gateway team- start looking and fixing the defect from launchpad | 18:53 |
| selvakumar | anything else do I missed Sukhdev: | 18:54 |
| selvakumar | ? | 18:54 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: be sure to include the diagram | 18:54 |
| Sukhdev | selvakumar: You summarized well | 18:55 |
| selvakumar | yes as part of the usage.rst I will add it | 18:55 |
| Sukhdev | I will give it a test drive and ping you if run into any issues? | 18:55 |
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| selvakumar | sure Sukhdev: | 18:55 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: I noticed you folks are no different time zones - few times I tried looking for you on irc | 18:56 |
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| Sukhdev | what time is best to get hold of you guys on irc? | 18:56 |
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| selvakumar | during our day time IST or email address ? | 18:57 |
| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 18:57 |
| selvakumar | I would prefer email address is the best way , we always looks our email | 18:57 |
| Sukhdev | sounds good | 18:58 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 18:58 |
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| Sukhdev | We are on the tail end - any general discussion item? | 18:58 |
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| Sukhdev | selvakumar: Thanks a ton for providing all the update | 18:58 |
| Sukhdev | This was very helpful | 18:59 |
| selvakumar | will Arista consumes NB REST API for l2 gateway ? or only OVSDB part Arista is interested? | 18:59 |
| Sukhdev | Both | 18:59 |
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| selvakumar | okay thats cool Sukhdev: | 18:59 |
| Sukhdev | we will be testing end-to-end | 18:59 |
| Sukhdev | OK folks, we are done | 19:00 |
| selvakumar | Thanks Sukhdev and all , we will keep you posted in Wiki | 19:00 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for joining in | 19:00 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 16 19:00:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-16-18.03.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-16-18.03.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_l2gw/2015/networking_l2gw.2015-03-16-18.03.log.html | 19:00 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:01 |
| catherineD2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 16 19:01:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| catherineD2 | hello Rockyg: | 19:01 |
| Rockyg | Hi! | 19:01 |
| vladiskuz_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| sslypushenko_ | o/ | 19:02 |
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| pvaneck | o/ | 19:02 |
| catherineD2 | David will miss today's call ... He will catch up with us later ... | 19:02 |
| catherineD2 | Today's agenda : | 19:03 |
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| catherineD2 | 1) uuid issue and refstrack test results json schema 2) Review Feb 18 f2f action items. 3) Do we need a f2f meeting for March 4) Review patches .. | 19:03 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD2 | Any other topics? | 19:03 |
| hogepodge | [refstack] tag for mailing list | 19:03 |
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| hogepodge | OpenStack ID integration. | 19:04 |
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| Rockyg | take aways from Ops midcycle? | 19:04 |
| catherineD2 | ok we will discuss those items before review the patches then ... | 19:05 |
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| catherineD2 | #topic uuid issue and refstrack test results json schema | 19:05 |
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| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: is working on a patch ... not sure how it will turn out ... we need to decide on what to use for the result schema for refstack-client | 19:06 |
| catherineD2 | do we still use the fully-qualified-name ? | 19:07 |
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| catherineD2 | since uuid is not unique at this time ... | 19:07 |
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| sslypushenko_ | I guess we should provide both name and uuid | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko_ | Also I'm expected to fix duplication issue | 19:08 |
| Rockyg | I don't think we have a choice unless we map the foll path to test name elsewhere | 19:08 |
| catherineD2 | the problem is with the name we need to stick on a certain tempest tag or the names do not help much .... | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | Ultimately the tempest team has to decide is the idempotent_id metadata is enough or if they want more. | 19:08 |
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| catherineD2 | so practically ... that uuid is not ver y helpful to us at this moment ... | 19:08 |
| hogepodge | To me it seems like they're happy with the way things are. A test with an ID should have the same functionality, just slightly different application. Say ipv4 vs ipv6 | 19:09 |
| hogepodge | It's more helpful than nothing. | 19:09 |
| catherineD2 | for tempest it is the right thnik to do ... | 19:09 |
| catherineD2 | more important is for defcore | 19:09 |
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| Rockyg | Yeah, but the IPV4 vs IPV6 is *really* important to some folks, so they will want something to identify which is which | 19:10 |
| catherineD2 | is passing a test in ipv6 and ipv4 the same for defcore ? | 19:10 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: that needs to be communicated with mtreinish then. It's important that we speak with them about issues we face. | 19:10 |
| catherineD2 | I think it is more to defcore than tempest's interest \s .. | 19:10 |
| Rockyg | catherineD2: no. IPV6 is what is keeping the china nodepool down | 19:11 |
| catherineD2 | to tempest they are the same test .. | 19:11 |
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| sslypushenko_ | hogepodge I will finish my patch and write letter to Matt | 19:11 |
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| catherineD2 | hogepodge:Rockyg: my concern is the 2015.03 spec | 19:11 |
| hogepodge | sslypushenko_: thanks. | 19:12 |
| Rockyg | I think we need to be explicit in the spec, too. | 19:12 |
| catherineD2 | people start discussing tests ... we do not even know the name that we will use ... | 19:12 |
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| hogepodge | between idempotant_id, test name, and github hash, we have completely trackable tests across locations. | 19:12 |
| Rockyg | Right now, IPV6 doesn't work totally, but by the next spec, it will likely be part of it. | 19:13 |
| hogepodge | even with idempotent_id, we still have to have the test name for human readability. | 19:13 |
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| catherineD2 | to me idempotant and test name is the same thing ... | 19:13 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: agree on that front | 19:13 |
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| catherineD2 | what is github hash> | 19:13 |
| catherineD2 | ? | 19:13 |
| hogepodge | This is mostly to track tests through refactorings. | 19:13 |
| Rockyg | The hash that translates to the specific checkin of the patch | 19:14 |
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| hogepodge | Every point in time in a github project has a hash that references that checkin. | 19:14 |
| hogepodge | You can check out code against that hash. | 19:14 |
| hogepodge | For example, the latest tempest checkin https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commit/4baeda6b8060e2bd1ca1092e7f5de4b2e338bd98 | 19:15 |
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| Rockyg | You can check out the whole repository from that hash and get a copy of what each file was when the hash was generated | 19:15 |
| catherineD2 | I am not sure how would that be implemented in refstack-client .... | 19:15 |
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| Rockyg | Well, the hash is the same as a label. The label just points to a hash, so it give us a snapshot of the tree | 19:16 |
| catherineD2 | how do we enforce that the the refstack-client user ? that is why we decided to use tag release in the pass ... so we level set all users ... | 19:16 |
| catherineD2 | so basically I see nothing change ... we still will have to stick with a certain tag or release .. | 19:16 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: Defcore needs a schema update to reference github hash for tempest at time of approval. | 19:16 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: +1 | 19:17 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: Yes, the main benefit is tracking tests as they move. If sslypushenko_ has is idea approved we'll be closer to the ideal of a unique idea for every test | 19:17 |
| hogepodge | Oh, this also came through today: a bug against idempotent_id | 19:17 |
| hogepodge | sslypushenko_: ^^ | 19:17 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: this is why I do not think we need to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161760/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161315/ at this time .. | 19:18 |
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| hogepodge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431267 | 19:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1431267 in tempest "tools/check_uuid.py works incorect for tests with decorators " [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Marc Koderer (m-koderer) | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1431267 in tempest "tools/check_uuid.py works incorect for tests with decorators " [Undecided,Fix released] | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1431267 in tempest "tools/check_uuid.py works incorect for tests with decorators " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1431267 | 19:18 |
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| hogepodge | please review the fix. | 19:18 |
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| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153234/ | 19:18 |
| hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164647 | 19:19 |
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| catherineD2 | so from refstack and refstack-client point of view ... we are waiting for defcore's update schema ... and meanwhile we will stick with tag-3 and fully-qualified-test-name? | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | (the second was the patch, and it was merged) | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD2 Ok. Lets fix duplication issue first | 19:20 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: +1 | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: for 2013.3 we should use a more recent tempest tag. bug fixes, etc. | 19:20 |
| catherineD2 | which tag? | 19:21 |
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| catherineD2 | +1 about bug fixes .. | 19:21 |
| hogepodge | not tag, hash. | 19:21 |
| Rockyg | Right. I think we need to pull a hashtag from when 2015.3 is approved, test it, and if it is good, label it. Otherwise, fix problems, retest, and label when OK. | 19:22 |
| catherineD2 | so 2015.3 should define the hash then refstack and refstack-client will update appropriately? | 19:22 |
| Rockyg | Yes. | 19:22 |
| Rockyg | Well, actually, pick the hash that meets 2015.3 definition | 19:23 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: the reason we use tag because those are official tag the tempest published ... | 19:23 |
| catherineD2 | for every OpenStack release | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: Maybe we can ask the qa team to tag tempest at the time of defcore approvals. | 19:24 |
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| Rockyg | We can submit a patch to label a specific hash for the defcore version | 19:24 |
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| catherineD2 | hogepodge: +1 | 19:24 |
| catherineD2 | let do that ... | 19:24 |
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| Rockyg | Sounds like this needs to be added to the defcore process zehicle | 19:24 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: hogepodge: we just need something that is offical and can be tracked and easily locate by all users .. | 19:25 |
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| Rockyg | Yup. And documented in the defcore process doc. | 19:25 |
| Rockyg | Easy, once we have the plan | 19:25 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: hogepodge: we need very close communicatio with defcore ... I start to listening at defcore meeting too | 19:25 |
| Rockyg | Which we do, now. | 19:25 |
| catherineD2 | 2014.3 schema is something we need now ... | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | You mean 2015.03? | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | Ichouse sort of equivalent? | 19:26 |
| catherineD2 | right now it is still defined test as an arrays for fully-quialified-testnames | 19:26 |
| catherineD2 | yes | 19:26 |
| catherineD2 | 2015.03 | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | thanks | 19:27 |
| Rockyg | I think we will need two labels: one for proposed and one for approved. But the fully qualified paths will be mostly the same from approval to tagging. | 19:27 |
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| Rockyg | Also will need to tag the tests "interop" | 19:28 |
| catherineD2 | ok for this topic we will operate business-as-usual until we get a new schema? | 19:28 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:28 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: We need a qa spec for that, a spec I need to write. | 19:29 |
| catherineD2 | hogepodge: +1 | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:29 |
| catherineD2 | ready to move to the next topic? | 19:29 |
| catherineD2 | #topic Review Feb 18 f2f action items | 19:29 |
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| catherineD2 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack_f2f_feb_2015 | 19:30 |
| catherineD2 | Please scroll to the botton section labeled "Action Items based on priorities" | 19:30 |
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| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: vladiskuz_: are working on item 1.0.1 ? | 19:32 |
| catherineD2 | are we good that this is a must-have item for vancouver? | 19:32 |
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| sslypushenko_ | We discussed that item with hogepodge and agreed that it would be better to start with auth based on openstack-id | 19:33 |
| hogepodge | sslypushenko_: more specifically, open id (or oauth2) auth plugged with openstack-id as a provider | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko_ | Sure, that item should be done as fast as possible | 19:34 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:34 |
| catherineD2 | ++, where do we save the credential? | 19:34 |
| sslypushenko_ | hogepodge Yep | 19:34 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: I imagine something like a openrc file for storing generated token credentials | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD2 In Refstach database | 19:35 |
| vladiskuz_ | but auth with openstack-id without browser is very difficult | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko_ | for Refstack API - databese. for client in .openrc file | 19:35 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: that means that we will be keeping user's id and passworf in refstack dabase ... | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | vladiskuz_: We have a choice between openid and oauth | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko_ | catherineD2 only id | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | catherineD2: no, id | 19:36 |
| catherineD2 | we will need to authenticale before the token is created right? | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko_ | hogepodge We need a little more time to investigate | 19:36 |
| catherineD2 | sslypushenko_: ++1 | 19:37 |
| hogepodge | sslypushenko_: of course | 19:37 |
| Rockyg | We're going to run apache on refstack.org, aren't we? Folks will access from browser..... | 19:37 |
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| Rockyg | All tied to openstack.org which is the definitive for the auth? | 19:37 |
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| hogepodge | Rockyg: there will need to be an approval step for any single sign on id | 19:37 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: that's usually done in a browser | 19:37 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: I don't know if there's a way to do it without | 19:38 |
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| catherineD2 | hogepodge: we used to log in refstack using our openstack credential ... | 19:38 |
| Rockyg | Wouldn't you want an interactive session for any official push, anyway? | 19:38 |
| catherineD2 | let's check back with David ... he implemented that section of cide | 19:39 |
| Rockyg | Mockup shows "vendor login" so I assume the access to refstack is through the browser.... | 19:40 |
| catherineD2 | so the status of this iten (section 1.0.1) is sslypushenko_: will need to investigate some more and we will check with David ... | 19:40 |
| sslypushenko_ | That is correct | 19:41 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: we will discuss more on mockup next .. | 19:41 |
| Rockyg | k | 19:41 |
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| catherineD2 | any other thought for this section? | 19:42 |
| catherineD2 | If not, let's move on to section 1.0.3 ok? | 19:42 |
| catherineD2 | I do not think we have time to implement vendor related aspect for Vancouver .... | 19:43 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:43 |
| catherineD2 | section 1.0.1 that we discussed earlier is for a specfic user | 19:43 |
| Rockyg | agreed on 1.0.3 | 19:44 |
| catherineD2 | and before vendor implememtation ... there will be no association between user and vendor | 19:44 |
| hogepodge | A user can clearly be a proxy for a vendor in the meantime. | 19:44 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: great if we all agree on 1.0.3 then all mock up about vendor will not be relavent ... | 19:45 |
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| Rockyg | Can we verify user email address against vendor domain? | 19:45 |
| Rockyg | Or that gets too much into stuff like 1.0.3 needs to do? | 19:45 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: yes that is why .. | 19:46 |
| Rockyg | With a user, can we piggyback on what openstack.org already does for verification? | 19:46 |
| catherineD2 | and for vancouver the data will be anonymous | 19:46 |
| Rockyg | Ah. | 19:46 |
| catherineD2 | the reason we want user authentication ... to prevent one user flooding and bias the results ... | 19:47 |
| Rockyg | So, just assume no official vendor data. this is all community. | 19:47 |
| catherineD2 | yes | 19:47 |
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| catherineD2 | so for section 1.0.3 we will move it to after vancouver ... | 19:48 |
| catherineD2 | plase vote :-) | 19:48 |
| hogepodge | +1 for now | 19:48 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko_ | +1 | 19:48 |
| vladiskuz_ | +1 | 19:48 |
| catherineD2 | Paul? | 19:49 |
| sslypushenko_ | unanimously) | 19:49 |
| pvaneck | +1 from me | 19:49 |
| catherineD2 | OK 1.0.3 will be moved to after vancouver | 19:49 |
| catherineD2 | only 10 mins left .. | 19:49 |
| catherineD2 | section 1.0.4 Please look at the mockup .. | 19:50 |
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| catherineD2 | so we still need page 1. | 19:50 |
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| catherineD2 | skip page 2 (vendor log-in) | 19:50 |
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| catherineD2 | skip page 3 -- results associated with a specifc vendor .. | 19:51 |
| catherineD2 | we will need page 4 .. | 19:51 |
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| Rockyg | Question on this: will vendor be identified with test, or even the vendors anonymous on the results here? | 19:52 |
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| catherineD2 | vendors (or the users) can identify their test by 1) remember the testod when they submit the test | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko_ | It will be good we they will have both options | 19:53 |
| Rockyg | So, no grouping by vendor available on this page | 19:54 |
| catherineD2 | 2) or they can identify their on tests by checking the cpid | 19:54 |
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| catherineD2 | remember we do not have vendor info at this point ... | 19:54 |
| hogepodge | I'd be for having a user account that is a vendor | 19:54 |
| Rockyg | True. But futue will want that option so maybe greyed out? | 19:55 |
| catherineD2 | the question is for vacouver do we even want to display the cpid? | 19:55 |
| Rockyg | Also, should be Results in title | 19:55 |
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| Rockyg | Do we want to call these Refstack test Results or DefCore test results? and do we want a test set version on this page | 19:56 |
| catherineD2 | Rockyg: yes need more work in this mock up ... at this point I would like to see us decide on we only want page 1 and 4 for vancouver ... we will work on the detail some more .. | 19:56 |
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| Rockyg | Again, I think the test set selection can be grayed out, but should be there. | 19:56 |
| catherineD2 | just time check .. | 19:57 |
| Rockyg | No need for 2 or 3 if no vendor registration available | 19:57 |
| catherineD2 | we have a lot to discuss ... do we want to continue in #refstack? | 19:57 |
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| catherineD2 | Rockyg: yes .. | 19:57 |
| vladiskuz_ | what about my patches with unit tests? | 19:57 |
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| catherineD2 | can everyone meet over in #refstack? we will discuss vladiskuz_: patches ... | 19:58 |
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| hogepodge | yes | 19:58 |
| Rockyg | yes | 19:59 |
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| catherineD2 | let' wrap up here | 19:59 |
| catherineD2 | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 16 19:59:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-16-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-16-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-03-16-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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| redrobot | #startmeeting barbican | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 16 20:01:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:01 |
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| redrobot | #topic Roll Call | 20:01 |
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| tkelsey | o/ | 20:01 |
| jvrbanac | o/ | 20:01 |
| jvrbanac | \o | 20:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 20:02 |
| hockeynut | o/ | 20:02 |
| rellerreller | o/ | 20:02 |
| redrobot | ohai OSSG folk! | 20:02 |
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| tkelsey | hi redrobot :) | 20:02 |
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| chellygel | ( ꒪Д꒪)ノ | 20:02 |
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| arunkant | o/ | 20:03 |
| redrobot | chellygel that is scary | 20:03 |
| redrobot | lots of barbicaneers here today! | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | let's get started! | 20:03 |
| elmiko | i'm just hanging for a few ;) | 20:03 |
| redrobot | #topic Action Items | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-09-20.01.html | 20:03 |
| jaosorior | o/ | 20:03 |
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| redrobot | I got an email update from woodster_ who is still on vacation regarding the soft/hard deletes | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | He met with Jarret, and they agreed that a configuration option for soft vs hard deletes would be best | 20:04 |
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| redrobot | No guidance on whether soft vs hard deletes would affect things in the compliance space | 20:04 |
| dave-mccowan | o/ | 20:05 |
| redrobot | I like the configurable approach since it lets the operator make a call | 20:05 |
| redrobot | #agreed we'll add a configuration option for soft vs hard deletes | 20:05 |
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| redrobot | also, I've made no progress getting Castellan released, although we did land the first big patch | 20:06 |
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| redrobot | I'm hoping we'll get to talk about Castellan in at least one of the Security Track sessions in Vancouver, so hopefully that'll get us more contributors/users | 20:07 |
| rellerreller | redrobot what is left to be done for the release? | 20:07 |
| elmiko | yea, i'm curious too | 20:07 |
| redrobot | excellent question | 20:07 |
| elmiko | we'd really like to use it =) | 20:07 |
| redrobot | I thought we had a pending CR that fixed some oslo issues | 20:08 |
| redrobot | but it seems that it was abandoned | 20:08 |
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| redrobot | ah, yes abandoned by rellerreller | 20:09 |
| redrobot | derp, rm_work, not rellerreller | 20:09 |
| rellerreller | I was about to say :) | 20:09 |
| rellerreller | It sounded like it was not needed anymore | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | hmm... | 20:09 |
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| redrobot | I think I would like to see oslo.log from incubator replaced with oslo_log the library | 20:10 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:10 |
| redrobot | mainly because we ran into some trouble at the gate with tempest/barbican because of that same issue | 20:10 |
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| redrobot | #help we need someone to update Castellan to use oslo_log | 20:10 |
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| elmiko | redrobot: i gotta run soon, but i'll hit you up later if you still need folks that can help with castellan | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | elmiko sounds good! | 20:11 |
| rellerreller | Can the help come after freeze? | 20:11 |
| elmiko | yes | 20:11 |
| kfarr | rellerreller +1 | 20:11 |
| redrobot | yes, the only thing that is frozen is Barbican proper | 20:11 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: I could do that, need an excuse to dig into Castellan anyway | 20:11 |
| elmiko | oh sorry, thought rellerreller was asking | 20:11 |
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| redrobot | #action jaosorior to update Castellan to use oslo_log | 20:12 |
| redrobot | I would be up for releasing v 0.1.0 after the oslo udpate | 20:13 |
| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:13 |
| redrobot | #topic Kilo-3 | 20:13 |
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| rellerreller | redrobot I asked the team here about that. We are good as well with the release. | 20:13 |
| rellerreller | That was one of my action items. | 20:13 |
| redrobot | rellerreller awesome | 20:13 |
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| redrobot | #link https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-3 | 20:14 |
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| redrobot | I met with Thierry last week, and since we're still in the-status-that-was-formerly-known-as-incubated then I can approve Feature Freeze Extensions (FFEs) | 20:15 |
| redrobot | usually this is something that Thierry would do | 20:15 |
| redrobot | sooooo | 20:15 |
| redrobot | The retry BP that woodster_ is working on was granted FFE and bumped to RC1 | 20:15 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller I saw the main content-types CR landed just a sec ago | 20:16 |
| rellerreller | Oh did it!!! :) | 20:16 |
| redrobot | rellerreller I'm going to change the status from "Needs Code Review" to "Implemented" | 20:16 |
| redrobot | we'll address the couple of outstanding issues in follow up fixes after Kilo-3 | 20:16 |
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| rellerreller | Awesome! I had no idea it was finally merged. | 20:16 |
| redrobot | rellerreller yep! Thanks for all the hard work! | 20:17 |
| redrobot | that was definitely not an easy one | 20:17 |
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| arunkant | redrobot, can per_secret impl (now split into 3 patches) be considered a possible candidate for RC1..not sure if it can make usual deadline of 03/18? | 20:17 |
| redrobot | arunkant yeah, I was going down the list for pending BPs | 20:18 |
| redrobot | arunkant I think we can do a FFE for that feature as well. | 20:18 |
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| redrobot | There's a lot of code in the per-secret implementation, so we can use the extra time to review it | 20:18 |
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| arunkant | redrobot, what is the deadline for RC1 ? | 20:19 |
| redrobot | arunkant April 9 | 20:19 |
| redrobot | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 20:19 |
| arunkant | redrobot, thanks..that looks like a possibility. | 20:19 |
| redrobot | alee Regarding the CA Identification BP, it looks like this CR needs to be rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150070/ | 20:20 |
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| redrobot | alee also looks like the only missing piece for that BP | 20:20 |
| alee | redrobot, yes -- I plan to get to that maybe today | 20:20 |
| alee | yes | 20:20 |
| redrobot | alee awesome | 20:21 |
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| alee | redrobot, there is one more bit that needs to be fixed for which I need woodsters help | 20:21 |
| alee | with those two crs, this should be finished | 20:21 |
| redrobot | alee and regarding the common cert API, is there anything outstanding? I didn't see anything in Launchpad | 20:22 |
| alee | it might make 3/18, but likely will end up going beyond that | 20:22 |
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| alee | redrobot, couple of things on common cert api -- dave-mccowan is writing a patch to do validation stuff | 20:22 |
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| alee | and I am writing a CR to add functional tests | 20:23 |
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| alee | based on that, there will likely be a follow on cr to shake out issues | 20:23 |
| redrobot | ok... I'll tentatively leave this stuff in the K-3 release... the issue shaking can happen after the release | 20:23 |
| alee | so -- not all likely to make 3/18 but probably soon after that | 20:23 |
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| redrobot | trying to keep FFEs down to a minimum | 20:24 |
| alee | sure - lets see how the functional tests go | 20:24 |
| alee | but in general common cert api is done | 20:24 |
| redrobot | I'm sensing Quota might slip as well | 20:24 |
| redrobot | tsv around? | 20:24 |
| redrobot | nope... | 20:24 |
| redrobot | #action redrobot to reach out to tsv about quota BP | 20:25 |
| redrobot | I would not mind bumping this to Liberty | 20:25 |
| redrobot | if we can get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140575/ it would be an easy BP to finish today | 20:26 |
| redrobot | and lastly | 20:26 |
| redrobot | rellerreller do you have any CRs up for the Asymmetric Key Support BP ? | 20:26 |
| redrobot | oh yes you do | 20:26 |
| rellerreller | We are currently working that. | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | just answered my own question... looks like WIP... I'll tentatively leave it in for K-3 | 20:27 |
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| rellerreller | Sounds good. We will be close to the wire if we make it. | 20:27 |
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| redrobot | I would like to have the SHA ready for Thierry on Thursday morning, so Wed night I'm going to revisit launchpad and bump whatever needs to be bumped. | 20:28 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on | 20:29 |
| redrobot | #topic Functional Test Gates | 20:29 |
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| redrobot | lisaclark asked me to add this topic | 20:29 |
| redrobot | and now I'm totally blanking on what I was supposed to talk about? | 20:29 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, adding the barbicanclient gate? | 20:30 |
| hockeynut | requiring new functional tests on CRs | 20:30 |
| redrobot | ^^ yes | 20:30 |
| alee | redrobot, how about the dogtag gate? | 20:30 |
| redrobot | ok, let's see, one at a time :) | 20:30 |
| redrobot | We'd like to be a little more strict about functional tests, so please be sure to add functional tests to new BPs that land | 20:30 |
| hockeynut | redrobot just BPs, or CRs in general? | 20:31 |
| redrobot | 2) chellygel is working on the last bits to enable a functional gate on barbicanclient | 20:31 |
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| redrobot | hockeynut I thin BPs would require functional tests no matter what. CRs in general should be done on a case-by-case basis | 20:31 |
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| hockeynut | redrobot gotcha | 20:32 |
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| redrobot | as far as dogtag gate goes | 20:32 |
| hockeynut | related to that, would anyone be interested in a google hangout to go over how to write/run functional tests? | 20:32 |
| redrobot | I haven't had a chance to get back to it... probably won't get to it until after Kilo-3 | 20:32 |
| redrobot | alee ^^ | 20:32 |
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| alee | redrobot, ok ping me when you do | 20:33 |
| alee | redrobot, as I recall you were going to try to extract more logs | 20:33 |
| rellerreller | I would be interested in the functional tests | 20:33 |
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| redrobot | hockeynut ^^ got one taker :) | 20:34 |
| hockeynut | winner winner chicken dinner | 20:34 |
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| redrobot | alee yep, the next step in DogTag gate is troubleshoot why installation fails in the gate, but succeeds in a regular VM | 20:34 |
| hockeynut | I will schedule and publicize on #openstack-barbican | 20:34 |
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| redrobot | ok, any other questions/comments about functional tests | 20:35 |
| redrobot | ? | 20:35 |
| rellerreller | Can we go over how the gates are configured with Gerrit? | 20:35 |
| rellerreller | Not now, but on the google chat. | 20:35 |
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| hockeynut | rellerreller sure | 20:35 |
| rellerreller | I'm curious how those are setup and how you indicate which scripts to run. | 20:35 |
| redrobot | rellerreller yeah, I can definitely go over that stuff... mostly involves openstack-infra/project-config | 20:36 |
| rellerreller | I think a KMIP gate would be good. I just don't know how we could support equipment. | 20:36 |
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| redrobot | we had talked about a software kmip server before... I think that still sounds interesting | 20:37 |
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| redrobot | it would be leaps better than what we have now... :) | 20:37 |
| rellerreller | +1 | 20:37 |
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| jvrbanac | redrobot, did HP ever get back with us on the Atallas? | 20:38 |
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| redrobot | tkelsey ^^ | 20:38 |
| tkelsey | sorry I dont have an update on that :( its still on the radar | 20:38 |
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| redrobot | ok, moving on... | 20:39 |
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| redrobot | #topic Assert Parameter Order | 20:39 |
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| redrobot | this should be a fun bikeshedding session | 20:39 |
| bknudson | use assertThat, then don't have to worry about it. | 20:39 |
| redrobot | so I kind of rocked the boat the other day asking rellerreller to do | 20:39 |
| redrobot | assertSomething(EXPECTED, ACTUAL) | 20:40 |
| * jvrbanac shivers | 20:40 | |
| redrobot | but today jvrbanac pointed out that this is backwards from the norm | 20:40 |
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| chellygel | jvrbanac, shivers towards which? | 20:40 |
| bknudson | #link http://testtools.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api.html#testtools.TestCase.assertEquals | 20:40 |
| hockeynut | looking for a needle in a haystack, or searching the haystack for the needle... | 20:41 |
| redrobot | bknudson thanks for the link! | 20:41 |
| alee | right - pycharm shows the order .. | 20:42 |
| redrobot | seems at least testtools is on-board with having expected be first. | 20:42 |
| jvrbanac | hang on | 20:42 |
| jvrbanac | Pretty sure the docs don't match what's going on | 20:42 |
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| rellerreller | Where did jvrbanac find details on the other way? | 20:42 |
| bknudson | here's a doc for using matchers and assertThat: http://testtools.readthedocs.org/en/latest/for-test-authors.html#using-matchers | 20:43 |
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| jvrbanac | This is how things get translated in our tests: http://paste.openstack.org/show/192724/ | 20:43 |
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| bknudson | if you pass a dict to assertEquals I think it shows a different message. | 20:44 |
| chellygel | assertThat seems to be more explicit... | 20:45 |
| bknudson | Here's the matchers: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/blob/master/testtools/matchers/__init__.py#L15 | 20:45 |
| bknudson | how desperate would you have to be to use the TarballContains matcher? | 20:45 |
| jvrbanac | Interesting... I was taught that unittest assert in Python were written as spoken. Assert x is equal y | 20:46 |
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| jvrbanac | == self.assertEqual(x, y) | 20:46 |
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| redrobot | so, do we have consensus then? | 20:47 |
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| redrobot | assertEqual(EXPECTED, OBSERVED) going forward? | 20:48 |
| redrobot | also makes for some low hanging fruit if anyone wants to go fix existing test code | 20:48 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, I still don't like this... | 20:48 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, pretty sure we've been doing this the other way since the birth of this project | 20:49 |
| jvrbanac | redrobot, why the change anyway? | 20:49 |
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| redrobot | jvrbanac I don't think we've ever cared about the order... and since someone brought it up a while back I figured it was time to take a stance | 20:50 |
| rellerreller | It is nice in the log messages when the ordering is correct because it says what was expected and what was received. | 20:50 |
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| redrobot | rellerreller +1 | 20:51 |
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| chellygel | assertThat just seems more explicit | 20:51 |
| chellygel | if thats the goal for what we are trying to achieve | 20:51 |
| jvrbanac | rellerreller, is it showing up out of order? | 20:52 |
| jvrbanac | chellygel, it's there if it makes sense to use | 20:52 |
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| rellerreller | jvrbanac I'm not sure anymore. I did see one out of order, but I don't remember the order in which it was written. | 20:52 |
| redrobot | almost out of time for today... | 20:53 |
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| jvrbanac | Anyhow, if everyone wants to switch... ok. However, we have tons of stuff out there already. I don't like the idea of some things being done one way | 20:53 |
| jvrbanac | and others the reverse | 20:53 |
| rellerreller | So which way are we going? | 20:54 |
| redrobot | rellerreller (EXPECTED, OBSERVED) as in testtools docs | 20:54 |
| redrobot | we'll have to revisit stuff that is not compliant | 20:54 |
| rellerreller | OK | 20:54 |
| redrobot | buuuut, we are getting an intern for the summer >_< | 20:54 |
| * redrobot is already peparing busy work | 20:54 | |
| redrobot | sorry jvrbanac, we'll get to consistent eventually | 20:55 |
| chellygel | i would hate to be an intern that does that o/ | 20:55 |
| redrobot | ok, guys, I think that's all we have time for today | 20:55 |
| jvrbanac | I guess I'm the only one then that doesn't like this idea. :( | 20:56 |
| redrobot | don't forget to review stuff for Kilo-3 | 20:56 |
| redrobot | because Wednesday night will be here before you know it! | 20:56 |
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| redrobot | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": ML2 Sync and error handling (Task Flow) - revisited (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 20:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 16 20:56:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-16-20.01.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-16-20.01.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-03-16-20.01.log.html | 20:56 |
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