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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 30 17:01:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
| serg_melikyan | Hi folks! | 17:01 |
| StanLagun | hi | 17:02 |
| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:02 |
| serg_melikyan | Happy Holidays! Not so much time left before New Year, but I hope some us will join today :) | 17:02 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Action Items Review | 17:04 |
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| serg_melikyan | Meeting Minutes from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-23-17.00.html | 17:04 |
| serg_melikyan | #1 Dmitry Dovbii, write specification for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | I think this action item should be moved to the next meeting | 17:05 |
| ruhe | o/ | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: o/ | 17:05 |
| serg_melikyan | any objections? | 17:05 |
| ruhe | no objections | 17:06 |
| ruhe | but | 17:06 |
| ruhe | when shall we have the next irc meeting? :) | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | On January 13 :) | 17:06 |
| ruhe | ok | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | We are going to skip meeting at Jan 6 due to holidays in Russia | 17:06 |
| katyafervent2 | yeah, lets wait for Dima | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | #action Dmitry Dovbii, write specification for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:06 |
| ruhe | but, since Dima is not forced to have holidays for 12 days, i'd expect the specification to be ready long before january 13th | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | #2 StanLagun is going to write specs for migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: I hope so | 17:07 |
| StanLagun | serg_melikyan: at the last meeting I said not to expect it today | 17:08 |
| serg_melikyan | I hoped :) | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #action StanLagun is going to write specs for migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #3 serg_melikyan will update roadmap mapping BPs to milestones | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | Have no excuses, missed this AI | 17:09 |
| serg_melikyan | #action serg_melikyan will update roadmap mapping BPs to milestones | 17:09 |
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| serg_melikyan | #topic Approve blueprints for K2 | 17:10 |
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| serg_melikyan | Many blueprint don't have specs yet, and even worse, but I think we should go through blueprint and approve part of them. | 17:11 |
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| serg_melikyan | Those features was approved for K, and we expect to have complete specs for them before end of the cycle. | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | Starting from the next cycle, ALL features planned for L would be required to have specs before L | 17:12 |
| serg_melikyan | In this cycle I think we can go with only blueprints and specs that are planned or in progress | 17:13 |
| ruhe | ++ | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | #1 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | Dima promised spec for this feature and feature itself implemented in K2 | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | I am voting to approve and assign this BP for k2 | 17:14 |
| serg_melikyan | Who is with me? | 17:14 |
| StanLagun | +1 | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: what do you think? Another approach is not approve them, but assign. I think when implementation will be ready (k2 or k3) spec will be ready too. | 17:15 |
| ruhe | no objections | 17:16 |
| ruhe | this particular feature should be relatively simple | 17:16 |
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| StanLagun | ruhe: this depends on if it is going to be built on custom amqp authentication or not | 17:17 |
| serg_melikyan | Second approach with BPs that had no spec yet: set direction to approved, definition to discussion (until spec will be merged) and assign them to k2. | 17:18 |
| ruhe | there shouldn't be any custom code and murano should not rely on anything specific to rabbitmq | 17:18 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: do you like first or second? | 17:18 |
| ruhe | some users might decide to use qpid | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: not for agent communications | 17:19 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: 2nd makes more sense | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: We can't use qpid for engine <> agent communication | 17:19 |
| serg_melikyan | only RabbitMQ | 17:19 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: there is no universal solution here. At least I don't know one | 17:19 |
| ruhe | i see | 17:19 |
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| serg_melikyan | We discussed that we will implement simplest part of solution that does not need any features from RabbitMQ - timeouts from engine side. And will research how to implement solution for timeouts from agent part | 17:22 |
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| serg_melikyan | We agreed on inclusion of this BP to K2? | 17:23 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe, StanLagun, katyafervent | 17:24 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: i prefer 2nd approach proposed by you | 17:25 |
| serg_melikyan | Ok, but we agree to assign https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-agent-timeouts ? | 17:26 |
| ruhe | to k2? i agree, yes | 17:26 |
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| serg_melikyan | #2 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/migrate-to-yaql-vnext | 17:27 |
| serg_melikyan | same question about this one | 17:28 |
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| ruhe | first comment: i don't like vnext :) | 17:28 |
| ruhe | it should be either 0.3 or 1.0 | 17:29 |
| StanLagun | 1.0 | 17:29 |
| StanLagun | but there is no 1.0 yet. Thats why vNext | 17:30 |
| ruhe | and there should be a spec for yaql 0.3 (or 1.0) before the migration to this new version is targeted in Kilo-2 or Kilo-3 | 17:30 |
| StanLagun | yes | 17:30 |
| ruhe | so, i'd prefer to postpone this BP | 17:30 |
| serg_melikyan | Mmm second approach that I described doesn't require spec to be assigned. I was talking about all BPs | 17:31 |
| ruhe | also, StanLagun, please, please make sure that 1.0 introduces minimum changes | 17:31 |
| StanLagun | we can target blueprint but don't merge anything before spec | 17:31 |
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| ruhe | +1 | 17:32 |
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| StanLagun | ruhe: 0.3 already introduces a lot of changes. At least for hosting projects. There would also be incompatible changes for end users, but most of the things won't break | 17:32 |
| ruhe | target BP, but don't approve it | 17:32 |
| serg_melikyan | that was I am talking about :) | 17:33 |
| StanLagun | 0.3 is not compatible with 0.2. So 1.0 won't be either | 17:33 |
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| ruhe | StanLagun: minimum set of incompatible changes would still be a very nice :) | 17:33 |
| serg_melikyan | #3 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-versioning | 17:34 |
| serg_melikyan | I am worried, cause I think we would be unable to deliver this in K2 | 17:34 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: both Mistral and Murano have yaql>=0.2.x,<0.3 in requirements.txt | 17:34 |
| serg_melikyan | We even didn't selected minimal scope to implement | 17:34 |
| ruhe | StanLagun: yeah, but migration path should be as smooth as possible | 17:34 |
| ruhe | StanLagun: what do you think about scope and timeframe for versioning support? | 17:35 |
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| StanLagun | ruhe: that depends on what is the first LTS version that we going to support. If that is Kilo the scope is very different from if it is Juno | 17:36 |
| serg_melikyan | We already discussed that question | 17:37 |
| StanLagun | and another thing is when do we plan to redesign core library (release core-library v2.0) | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | 1) We don't have LTS | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | 2) We start supporting versioning from Kilo | 17:37 |
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| StanLagun | Then I think we can support minor version changes in Kilo | 17:38 |
| StanLagun | i.e. without adapters | 17:38 |
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| serg_melikyan | StanLagun: do we able to implement this BP in K2, given that K is first version with versioning support? | 17:39 |
| serg_melikyan | Can we assign this BP to K2? | 17:39 |
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| StanLagun | serg_melikyan: this need to be split into several sub-tasks | 17:40 |
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| serg_melikyan | I know - we had no time to discuss this on this week. That is why I am asking you cause you wrote spec | 17:40 |
| StanLagun | for example we can change API/DB to store several versions of single package | 17:40 |
| StanLagun | Because of long holidays I'm not sure if we will have enough time in K2 | 17:41 |
| StanLagun | but we can try | 17:41 |
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| StanLagun | I think we should start at K2 and finish as soon as possible. But it may be K3 in the end | 17:42 |
| serg_melikyan | Ok | 17:42 |
| serg_melikyan | #4 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/enable-category-management | 17:43 |
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| ruhe | where is corresponing spec? | 17:44 |
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| serg_melikyan | not yet merged, but submitted | 17:45 |
| serg_melikyan | https://review.openstack.org/139630 | 17:45 |
| serg_melikyan | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/30/139630/3/check/gate-murano-specs-docs/97de63c/doc/build/html/specs/kilo/enable-category-management.html | 17:46 |
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| ruhe | any reasons not to merge it? | 17:46 |
| serg_melikyan | We discussed this today, unfortunately not in comments to review. I have few questions, I will write them in review | 17:48 |
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| serg_melikyan | Meanwhile we are running out of time :( | 17:50 |
| serg_melikyan | I propose to continue this meeting tomorrow | 17:50 |
| ruhe | ok | 17:51 |
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| StanLagun | tomorrow??? | 17:51 |
| StanLagun | just before midnight? :) | 17:51 |
| serg_melikyan | But let's continue discussing enable-category-management :) | 17:51 |
| ruhe | what else are you gonna do? celebrate new year? | 17:51 |
| serg_melikyan | StanLagun: nope :) Let's do this a little bit earlier in our #murano | 17:52 |
| StanLagun | ruhe: no way :) | 17:52 |
| serg_melikyan | Guys, we are really slow :) | 17:53 |
| serg_melikyan | With this temp we need 4 hours meetings | 17:53 |
| serg_melikyan | Once again: #4 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/enable-category-management | 17:54 |
| ruhe | once again: we all owe katyafervent a review, +2, approve this spec, approve code related to this spec. it's been on review for way too long | 17:54 |
| serg_melikyan | +1 | 17:54 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: if your comments to the spec are minor, i suggest to approve related BP and target it to K2 | 17:55 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:55 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: yeah, just how to represent this in UI | 17:55 |
| ruhe | approve BP, and leave a comment on whiteboard | 17:56 |
| ruhe | leave a comment about comments in spec | 17:56 |
| serg_melikyan | Righty ho, boss | 17:56 |
| ruhe | :) :) :) | 17:57 |
| serg_melikyan | %) | 17:57 |
| serg_melikyan | :) | 17:57 |
| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 30 17:59:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-30-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-30-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2014/murano.2014-12-30-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 30 21:03:19 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-12-30_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:03 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:03 |
| akshayc | Akshay Chhajed | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | hi akshayc | 21:04 |
| akshayc | hi adrian | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | we'll wait a few minutes to see if we can muster a quorum | 21:05 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | I'm confident that most of us are out on vacation this week | 21:05 |
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| akshayc | yep…. likely…. | 21:05 |
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| dimtruck | here! | 21:07 |
| dimtruck | sorry i'm late | 21:07 |
| dimtruck | i think the rest of the folks are out on vacation | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | akshayc: do you have anything in particular you would like to cover today? | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | If not, I'll move to adjourn and we can meet again next week. | 21:08 |
| akshayc | ya…. i have a few questions | 21:08 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discossion | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | whoops | 21:09 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:09 |
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| adrian_otto | akshayc: proceed with questions. | 21:09 |
| akshayc | i am working on fixing #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1377976 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1377976 in solum "Add delete call to ImagesController" [Wishlist,New] | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:10 |
| akshayc | but there seems to no direct way to get glance_image_id from image object | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | implementing that properly will involve the use of Keystone trust tokens | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | I see | 21:11 |
| akshayc | image object does have a base_image_id | 21:12 |
| akshayc | but it is set to none | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | where are we currently storing glance_image_id? | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | in plans? | 21:12 |
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| akshayc | i have not been able to find the data models | 21:13 |
| akshayc | that is what I wanted to know | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | one sec while I peek at it | 21:13 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | well first of all, solum/builder/controllers/v1/image/ImageController.py is not in the codebase yet | 21:14 |
| akshayc | ok…. | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | solum/builder/controllers/v1/image.py is | 21:14 |
| adrian_otto | and that defines created_image_id | 21:15 |
| adrian_otto | which is what you'll want to be able to delete | 21:15 |
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| adrian_otto | that's the id of the created image in glance | 21:15 |
| akshayc | yep…. but that is "none" | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | heh, well, that's a bug then | 21:16 |
| akshayc | is it ok to delete the object, if it is set to none? | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | if you are confident that there is not actually anything in Glance, then yes | 21:16 |
| akshayc | ok…. | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | but if we are just not setting it properly when we make the entry in glance, then we need to fix that first | 21:17 |
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| akshayc | another bug #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1406647 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1406647 in solum "Language Pack Test get all missing cleanup" [Undecided,New] | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 21:17 |
| akshayc | small bug | 21:17 |
| akshayc | i have a fix | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | ok, terrific! | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | any question on this one? | 21:18 |
| akshayc | nothing much now…. i will send that for review | 21:18 |
| akshayc | i have a dev here #link https://github.com/akshaychhajed/vagrant-solum-dev/tree/solum_stable_juno | 21:18 |
| akshayc | i have removed mistral…. | 21:19 |
| akshayc | what was it being used for? | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | for the Pipelines resource | 21:19 |
| akshayc | i was able to run ghost and ex1 samples without it | 21:19 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, those use Plan and Assembly, and if you don't need a custom CI, then you don't have to use Pipelines… at least as the project stands today. | 21:20 |
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| akshayc | ok…. that was breaking the build due to dependency isuue | 21:21 |
| adrian_otto | we shoul dnot hesitate to reach out to the Mistral developers for help with situations like that | 21:21 |
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| akshayc | ok…. most of it is because they do not have a branch for stable juno | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | could not hurt to request one | 21:22 |
| akshayc | mistral is running off master | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | it's rather easy to tag a release, and we can pin to that. | 21:22 |
| akshayc | ok…. | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | I can help out with that | 21:23 |
| akshayc | will commits off stable/juno break gate tests? | 21:23 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to follow up with mistral devs to arrange a tagged release that we can use as a stable dependency. | 21:23 |
| adrian_otto | anything else, akshayc? | 21:23 |
| akshayc | nothing else | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | ok, super | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | our next meeting is scheduled for 2015-01-06 at 2100 UTC. I look forward to seeing you then! | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:25 |
| akshayc | are you available today in #solum? | 21:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 30 21:25:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-30-21.03.html | 21:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-30-21.03.txt | 21:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2014/solum_team_meeting.2014-12-30-21.03.log.html | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | akshayc: yes | 21:25 |
| akshayc | ok | 21:25 |
| akshayc | i will reachout if i need anything else | 21:25 |
| akshayc | i will try to upload patch for review | 21:26 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 30 22:00:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | @link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2014-12-30_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2014-12-30_2200_UTC our Agenda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:01 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 22:01 |
| hongbin | Hongbin Lu | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | welcome hongbin | 22:01 |
| hongbin | :) | 22:01 |
| adrian_otto | this is again a holiday week in the US, so I'm expecting thin attendance | 22:02 |
| yuanying-alt | Yuanying OTSUKA | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | welcome yuanying-alt | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announements | 22:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announements (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:05 | |
| adrian_otto | This week I proposed ootsuka as a core reviewers | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | a majority of cores voted +1, and none aganst. | 22:06 |
| yuanying-alt | Thank you very much! | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | I will be closing that thread and formally adding you as a core today. | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | other contributors also interested in this role may contact me, and I would be happy to offer guidance. | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | so thank you yuanying-alt for your work | 22:07 |
| yuanying-alt | Will do my best | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review | 22:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint/Bug Review (Meeting topic: containers)" | 22:08 | |
| adrian_otto | I have prepared a set of topics for discussion. I'd like to get some input here, and follow up on ML threads for any that seem like they may be controversial at all | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | FIrst: Should we open a bug ticket for a refactor of context handling? | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/142682 Fix context is not set correctly at pod controller | 22:09 |
| yuanying-alt | yes i agree | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | so should we open a bug against this for refactoring, or should we simply move on | 22:09 |
| adrian_otto | I have been opening a number of bugs against reviews for the purpose of keeping commit velocity up, while keeping track of areas where we can improve later (technical debt) | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | my question is if we want to include this in the debt backlog or not. yuanying-alt, your thoughts? | 22:10 |
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| yuanying-alt | I think we should report a bug for these purpose. | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok, would you be willing to open a bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum for this purpose? | 22:12 |
| yuanying-alt | yes | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | it should simply include a pointer to the code we want to draw attention to, state our reason for wanting an improvement, and optionally ideas for how to implement. | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | implementation details are not required for a bug to be accepted. | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks. I'll look forward to seeing that when you have time to work on it. | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | Next example in this topic is: | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | Should we open a bug ticket for a refactor of rpcapi attribute in request objects for access by controllers? | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/143935 Add hooks to obtain conductor api | 22:14 |
| adrian_otto | sdake indicated that there is a better way to do this that was less like a hack | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | if you agree, perhaps you can open a bug against this as well. I don't feel strongly about it, so I'm simply raising this for discussion purposes. | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | I think what sdake meant was that piling more things into the request object is inefficient, but he did not say exactly what his objection was. | 22:16 |
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| adrian_otto | and without considering any alternative options, I refrain from taking a position on the subject. | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | yuanying-alt: ideas on this? | 22:17 |
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| yuanying-alt | In this case, If he suggest simply way to handle request in review page, | 22:18 |
| yuanying-alt | I fixed it. | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 22:19 |
| yuanying-alt | Generally, refactor needs bug report I think. | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | we also have two use cases on the agenda today | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/144209 Added container network use case to specs | 22:21 |
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| adrian_otto | this one got comments from me and sdake supporting the addition, with some discussion about further refinement. | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | does anyone feel that this is too ambitious, or that it should be excluded as a use case for any reason? | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | hongbin, I think the rewording I asked for is a minor thing. Did you see it that way? | 22:23 |
| hongbin | yes I do | 22:23 |
| hongbin | I will fix that | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | ok, thanks, I gave this one lots of consideration, and I think it's a good addition. | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | the next one: | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/144210 Added multi-region/multi-cloud use case to specs | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | this use case is a real big one, and both sdake and I coughed a bit | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | because it is certainly ambitious | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | we each suggested that we could accept is as a directional statement, but not a form project commitment | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | s/form/firm/ | 22:25 |
| hongbin | yes, I am fine with that | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | this means that to the extent possible we would design Magnum so that it could be later adapted to suit this use case | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | but if we were faced with a hard decision that might become a problem for this use case, that we might decide to depart from this | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | but having it in the spec at all gives us a discussion point | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | so we would be encouraged to discuss the matter if we ever come to a point of conflict | 22:27 |
| hongbin | fair enough | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so hongbin, I think we can resolve this by just creating a new section in the spec as part of this proposal for future direction. | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | and it could merge that way | 22:27 |
| hongbin | ok | 22:28 |
| hongbin | I will modify it accordingly | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | and when we reach a point of maturity where we feel more confident about addressing it as a real use case, we can revisit it again. | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | thanks! | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | any other work items (Blueprints or bugs/tasks) that require team discussion? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:29 |
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| adrian_otto | we are also free to adjourn early if there is nothing to discuss | 22:29 |
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| yuanying-alt | I have nothing | 22:30 |
| hongbin | me either | 22:30 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, thanks! Our next meeting it 2015-01-06 at 1600 UTC | 22:31 |
| yuanying-alt | I will add a bug report for implementation of heat-show. | 22:31 |
| yuanying-alt | but later work. | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | have a Happy New year, and I'll see you then. | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 30 22:31:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2014/containers.2014-12-30-22.00.html | 22:31 |
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