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| davidlenwell | #startmeeting refstack | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 29 18:58:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 18:58 |
| davidlenwell | Agenda: api status, qa meta data spec, pending reviews, open discussion | 18:58 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 18:59 |
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| davidlenwell | hopefully its not just the two of us. | 19:00 |
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| hogepodge | It's holiday time. It wouldn't surprise me if everyone is on extended vacation. | 19:01 |
| davidlenwell | well who could blame them. | 19:01 |
| davidlenwell | we'll give it a few .. then we can call it and defer to next week. | 19:02 |
| zehicle | o/ | 19:03 |
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| rocky | o/ | 19:07 |
| rocky | sorry I'm late | 19:07 |
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| davidlenwell | happens to the best of us | 19:07 |
| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:07 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. I think we have enough to start | 19:08 |
| vladiskuz_ | o/ | 19:08 |
| rocky | Yeah. my android chat client lost this channel | 19:08 |
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| davidlenwell | okay.. So item one on the agenda is api status.. | 19:08 |
| davidlenwell | #topic api status | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "api status (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:08 | |
| davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: I know I owe you a patch to the model fixing the table name | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko__ | Yeap | 19:09 |
| davidlenwell | with the holiday that got swept under the rug.. appologies .. I will post it as soon as this meeting is finished | 19:09 |
| sslypushenko__ | Sounds great | 19:09 |
| davidlenwell | Do you have anything else to add as to the status of the api? | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko__ | Also we should land api spec | 19:10 |
| davidlenwell | oh yes.. a trimmed down version of the api spec.. I will also ad that to my list today | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko__ | It just needs +2 | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko__ | Vlad have already finished api prototype | 19:11 |
| davidlenwell | okay | 19:11 |
| sslypushenko__ | I hope we will get working api before midcyle meetup started | 19:11 |
| davidlenwell | I'll also do a review cycle today | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | I think thats a good goal | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko__ | Me too) | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | attainable too | 19:12 |
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| zehicle | is that something that could be hosted somewhere? | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | okay.. I'll look throught he pending reviews around the api today | 19:12 |
| sslypushenko__ | Please don't forget about db schema | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | I won't | 19:12 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: once its landed we can put it in infra | 19:13 |
| zehicle | even if not the official site - it would let people test the client | 19:13 |
| davidlenwell | nothing stopping you from running it locally | 19:13 |
| zehicle | I think we need to get people to try this outside of refstack team, | 19:13 |
| zehicle | so that we know what's likely to happen in the broader field | 19:13 |
| sslypushenko__ | Sure, we are planning test it localy first | 19:14 |
| davidlenwell | we do .. I have hp cloud instances I could stand it up on first .. once they are passed the initial internal testing we can have outside folks give it a try | 19:14 |
| zehicle | having outside people (vendors?) start trying it will expose issues that we need to address | 19:14 |
| davidlenwell | +1 | 19:14 |
| rocky | zehicle +1 | 19:14 |
| zehicle | davidlenwell, anyone else able? I don't want to add to david's plate | 19:15 |
| hogepodge | I can talk to the infra team. | 19:15 |
| davidlenwell | I think what we should be doing is pushing to infra for it .. | 19:15 |
| rocky | I was gonna try it against our stack, with the help of the rest of our team. Early Jan. | 19:15 |
| zehicle | I don't want a small issue to make infra think that we are not ready | 19:16 |
| rocky | I'm on vacation at the moment | 19:16 |
| davidlenwell | infra is used to incomplete things ... just look at storyboard ;) | 19:16 |
| davidlenwell | I think it will be alright | 19:16 |
| hogepodge | I can work with them. I'm local to one of them. | 19:16 |
| davidlenwell | I think they'd be more suprised if we got it perfect the first time | 19:16 |
| hogepodge | It's easy to sit down in person and work through everything. I've been really productive with Clark working that way. | 19:17 |
| rocky | +1 for hogepodge Let's try to get some parallelism going | 19:17 |
| davidlenwell | good plan | 19:17 |
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| davidlenwell | okay .. I think thats covered.. lets move to the next topic.. | 19:17 |
| davidlenwell | #topic meta data spec (uuids) | 19:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meta data spec (uuids) (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:17 | |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144329/ | 19:18 |
| davidlenwell | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144329/ | 19:18 |
| davidlenwell | more details still need to be added about how specifically gate testing should work.. and what its testing for. | 19:18 |
| davidlenwell | but otherwise I think its ready for public scrutany | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko__ | Do we really need add some metadata except uuid? | 19:19 |
| davidlenwell | yes | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko__ | For example? | 19:19 |
| davidlenwell | our needs are only for the uuid .. but durring the session at the summit the request from q/a was for general meta data that uuid was a member of | 19:20 |
| zehicle | I'd like to see the capabilities managed from the tests | 19:20 |
| zehicle | so that the PTLs could own it | 19:20 |
| davidlenwell | for example you could tag capabilities | 19:20 |
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| davidlenwell | yes .. that | 19:20 |
| rocky | ++ | 19:20 |
| sslypushenko__ | Right now there is test attr decorator, what is the main difference? | 19:20 |
| hogepodge | I'd take the workflow -1 off of it. People tend to not look otherwise. | 19:20 |
| zehicle | if that's going to work , we'd need to push the current tags into the tests | 19:20 |
| davidlenwell | I wanted it to be clear it was a work in progress | 19:20 |
| zehicle | and then deal w/ the fact that we can't have 1 off capabilities, so it needs some managemdent | 19:20 |
| davidlenwell | but I can remove it | 19:20 |
| zehicle | hogepodge, _1 | 19:21 |
| zehicle | +1 | 19:21 |
| hogepodge | The feedback I got from a workflow -1 review what that I'd get no feedback. :-) | 19:21 |
| davidlenwell | its gone | 19:21 |
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| davidlenwell | outside of asking you all to read it and give feed back there isn't much else to discuss at this point.. | 19:22 |
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| davidlenwell | so we can move on to going over pending reviews unless anyone has anything else to add. | 19:22 |
| sslypushenko__ | Spec looks fine | 19:23 |
| rocky | two ways to do capability tags: when the test is written, its capability is part of the review. Or when Capability is determined core, the tests are labelled | 19:23 |
| davidlenwell | okay ... | 19:23 |
| sslypushenko__ | Lets disscuss details in review | 19:23 |
| davidlenwell | I think thats more of an implimentation concern more so than a design concern.. | 19:23 |
| davidlenwell | rocky: ^ | 19:23 |
| zehicle | it's OK for new capabilities to emerge | 19:24 |
| zehicle | there's a process for making them core | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | #topic pending reviews | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pending reviews (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:24 | |
| zehicle | we can trust that people will correctly apply capabilities | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143742/ | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: merg? | 19:25 |
| zehicle | as we get new tests, they will either be in new capabilities or use existing ones | 19:25 |
| zehicle | the known & core capabilities are available for people to pick if they want | 19:26 |
| zehicle | the PTL will be able to govern if there are new capabilities being represented or if they should be cast back into existing ones | 19:26 |
| zehicle | a human solvable problem of manageable scale | 19:26 |
| davidlenwell | understood | 19:26 |
| davidlenwell | so moving on to this review .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143742/ | 19:27 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: the agreement for these files was to refrain from merging until someone in defcore approves.. is defcore still just you or is _0x44 also on the commitee? | 19:28 |
| zehicle | _0x44 is officially now a co-chair | 19:28 |
| davidlenwell | so if you post a thing you will need him to also +1 before I'll merge it | 19:29 |
| davidlenwell | and visa versa | 19:29 |
| rocky | So, one of you +2 and one approved? | 19:29 |
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| davidlenwell | no.. they don't have +2 | 19:29 |
| zehicle | this reflects board action - so, you can take my word on it | 19:29 |
| davidlenwell | but I won't plus 2 unless one of them gives it a +1 | 19:29 |
| davidlenwell | at least that was the earlier agreement.. | 19:29 |
| davidlenwell | okay | 19:30 |
| zehicle | I can ask Chris to +1 it also | 19:30 |
| davidlenwell | thats fine.. I was just explaining why it was being ignored | 19:30 |
| zehicle | adding 0x44 to the review | 19:31 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. when I checked with zehicle last week you had told me to wait on this next one.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131187/ | 19:32 |
| davidlenwell | now I see a +1 from you.. are we ready to merge? | 19:32 |
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| zehicle | I'd like to see a +1 from catherine | 19:32 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. she's out until next week | 19:33 |
| davidlenwell | So we can wait if thats okay? | 19:33 |
| zehicle | yes, that can wait | 19:33 |
| davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: and I already talked about merging this one.. was originally waiting for catherine.. but does anyone object to merging the api spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141921/ | 19:34 |
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| sslypushenko__ | I'm ok with this spec | 19:34 |
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| hogepodge | Why no get method? | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | For first and third party reporting/rendering. | 19:36 |
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| hogepodge | Also validation from the client side. | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | I can add those comments to the review. | 19:37 |
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| davidlenwell | yes .. please do | 19:37 |
| davidlenwell | altho I did just merge it.. | 19:37 |
| davidlenwell | to answer .. no get method becuase those were not use cases we were trying to adress with the first version.. they can certainly be added and I agree would be useful | 19:38 |
| hogepodge | ok | 19:38 |
| davidlenwell | I am going to go ahead and merge this one.. | 19:38 |
| davidlenwell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118839/ | 19:38 |
| davidlenwell | I had already given it a plus two .. but that was before I knew catherine would be on vacation for so long. | 19:39 |
| sslypushenko__ | In this case may we should drop py33 support? | 19:39 |
| davidlenwell | I think you are right about that | 19:39 |
| davidlenwell | py33 is already nonvoting .. so its not a blocker at the moment.. but yes .. we should transition to py34 | 19:40 |
| davidlenwell | sslypushenko__: I am going to leave some feed back in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141857/ .. however I think we should do this development work in tempest tools and not in the refstack codebase.. Also I'd like to see it be more generalized for meta data and not just uuid. | 19:42 |
| sslypushenko__ | It is just a proto | 19:42 |
| davidlenwell | understood | 19:42 |
| davidlenwell | and its good work too.. I just had some thoughts when reading the code .. I'll leave in review. | 19:43 |
| davidlenwell | have any I missed any reviews that are important? | 19:43 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Nothing from my side | 19:44 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. lets move into open discussion | 19:44 |
| zehicle | how is the client status? | 19:44 |
| davidlenwell | #topic open discussion | 19:44 |
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| zehicle | since we'll need that to test the API | 19:45 |
| davidlenwell | thats a good topic for open discussion | 19:45 |
| davidlenwell | I believe the client to be in a stable enough place to test with the api.. however I am sure that doing so will expose some things we had not encountered before. | 19:45 |
| hogepodge | Also before we go I'd like to get an update from rocky on the mid-cycle details (just location mostly so we can plan travel) | 19:45 |
| davidlenwell | okay | 19:45 |
| davidlenwell | lets cover this client question.. then we can move onto that | 19:46 |
| davidlenwell | zehicle: did that address your concern about the client? | 19:46 |
| zehicle | I think so | 19:46 |
| zehicle | I wanted to make sure that people outside refstack can try it | 19:47 |
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| davidlenwell | lets get though an internal test cycle first then we'll announce and get some others to try it out | 19:47 |
| davidlenwell | I know bluebox wants to try it as well | 19:47 |
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| davidlenwell | okay .. rocky.. do you have an address for us? | 19:48 |
| rocky | 2330 Central Expressway, Santa Clara, CA 95050 Lots of hotels nearby. Easy flight into SJC (SW, Alaska, AA). Probably either need a car, or someone to pick you up/drop you off (pretty easy) | 19:48 |
| davidlenwell | I also have questions about parking | 19:48 |
| davidlenwell | I can pick up and drop off hogepodge if you need from your hotel | 19:48 |
| rocky | Also, should this be announced either on dev or fits? | 19:49 |
| davidlenwell | I have a 5 seat car | 19:49 |
| davidlenwell | yes rocky it should be announced in fits | 19:49 |
| rocky | Lots of parking. | 19:49 |
| davidlenwell | okay good | 19:49 |
| davidlenwell | lets start a etherpad with the details and attendance | 19:49 |
| rocky | I'll send a link or a jpeg for the site. | 19:49 |
| davidlenwell | maybe we can list off a few of the closest hotels for those booking travel | 19:50 |
| rocky | I'll put that on the etherpad;-) | 19:50 |
| rocky | Will do. | 19:50 |
| davidlenwell | awesome.. thank you .. please post a link to the etherpad you create in #redstack | 19:50 |
| rocky | OK. | 19:50 |
| davidlenwell | okay.. anything else to cover? | 19:51 |
| davidlenwell | okay .. sslypushenko__ I am going to get you the new model now.. | 19:53 |
| davidlenwell | thanks everyone.. despite the holiday attendance I think that was pretty productive. | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | Thx! | 19:53 |
| zehicle | +1 | 19:54 |
| zehicle | c u in 2015 | 19:54 |
| davidlenwell | #endmeeting | 19:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 29 19:54:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:54 |
| rocky | +1 Happy new year! | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-12-29-18.58.html | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-12-29-18.58.txt | 19:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2014/refstack.2014-12-29-18.58.log.html | 19:54 |
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| chellygel | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 29 20:00:00 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chellygel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
| chellygel | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| reaperhulk | Despite being on vacation and having taken a red eye flight and only having 2 hours of sleep I am here to blather | 20:00 |
| chellygel | Hello Everyone! As redrobot says, "Lets get this party started!" | 20:00 |
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| jvrbanac | :) | 20:00 |
| chellygel | well, i am your audience reaperhulk! | 20:00 |
| chellygel | "Wow, lots of Barbicaneers here today!" | 20:01 |
| chellygel | It doesn't seem there is anything on the agenda -- so... | 20:01 |
| chellygel | #topic Open Floor | 20:01 |
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| chellygel | Anyone have anything they'd like to talk about or discuss? | 20:01 |
| chellygel | im definitely putting this on my resume guys | 20:02 |
| chellygel | i got this meeting thing down. | 20:02 |
| chellygel | If no one has anything to say, I will shut the meeting down in 8 minutes.. | 20:03 |
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| chellygel | http://media.giphy.com/media/MkxZKy77sWoEw/giphy.gif | 20:06 |
| reaperhulk | haha | 20:06 |
| reaperhulk | Where are we with blueprints? | 20:06 |
| reaperhulk | Do we have any significant ones still in need of review so that we can be sure the work lands in kilo? | 20:07 |
| chellygel | I see 5 or 6 still in queue... | 20:07 |
| chellygel | but im not sure about kilo work | 20:07 |
| chellygel | We have JAOR's for change keystone id... updated today | 20:08 |
| chellygel | Ade's add CA enrollment templates | 20:08 |
| chellygel | greghaynes' snake oil cert plugin | 20:08 |
| chellygel | dynamic created users from hockeynut | 20:08 |
| chellygel | tim kelsey's Plugin with HP Atalla ESKM | 20:09 |
| reaperhulk | hmm, okay | 20:09 |
| chellygel | a few more after that, also | 20:09 |
| reaperhulk | That's all I got ;) | 20:09 |
| chellygel | :P | 20:09 |
| chellygel | 1 minute! | 20:09 |
| reaperhulk | back to vacation! | 20:09 |
| chellygel | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131123164509/degrassi/images/6/63/Post-18906-ferris-bueller-go-home-gif-fvin.gif | 20:10 |
| chellygel | Thanks everyone ( you two)! | 20:10 |
| chellygel | Please tell my manager i did a great job and provided some much needed humor in these meetings | 20:10 |
| chellygel | happy new year! see you all next year 8) | 20:10 |
| chellygel | #endmeeting | 20:10 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2014/barbican.2014-12-29-20.00.html | 20:10 |
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