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| cemmason | oh no i am wrong | 05:18 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:58 |
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| flaper87 | #startmeeting glance | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 13:59:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #topic agenda | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 13:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 13:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 13:59 | |
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| abhishekk | hi o/ | 13:59 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 13:59 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 13:59 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 13:59 |
| kairat | o/ | 13:59 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda, as usual. Please, add new topics at the bottom if there are things you'd like to talk about | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: jokke_ ? | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: ? | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Artifacts | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Artifacts (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ativelkov floor is yours | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | I promised I would attend the artifacts meeting on Monday. I failed! | 14:01 |
| * flaper87 is a terrible terrible person | 14:01 | |
| mfedosin | So did I :( | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | I swear I have a good reason | 14:01 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #chair rosmaita mfedosin | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: flaper87 mfedosin rosmaita | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | just in case my network goes south | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: any news from artifact's land? | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| ativelkov | We don't have much to update, since mfedosin was primarily busy with nova stuff | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | Sorry the spec hasn't been approved yet. I'd like to see some comments from sigmavirus24_awa and then we're good | 14:02 |
| ativelkov | Since the Public API spec is in a good shape, we hope to get its first implemenation in several days from now | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: that's good news ( mfedosin being busy with nova, that is) :P | 14:02 |
| * flaper87 wants to get that nova stuff done. NOW! | 14:02 | |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: sounds promising | 14:02 |
| ativelkov | Same do I, so no rush, nva is more important for sure | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | nova* | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | Also, I did couple of more reviosions to the v3 -> v0.1 migration patch | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | minor nits mostly, plus rebase | 14:03 |
| * flaper87 does a wolves dances around a campfire to make sure the nova work will be completed | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | now, picture that ^ | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | one more rebase seems to be needed though | 14:03 |
| * flaper87 stfu | 14:03 | |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: that one is on my review queue for today | 14:03 |
| ativelkov | cool, thanks! | 14:03 |
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| flaper87 | moving on, unless there's more | 14:04 |
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| ativelkov | Also we had a conversation with docaedo from comunity-app-catalog team, they want to start prototyping their glare-based backend soon, so the public api will be handy there | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Drivers | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Drivers (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | ops | 14:04 |
| * ativelkov is done | 14:04 | |
| flaper87 | ativelkov: that's good news | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | ok, not much from our side either | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | we've reviewed the SFE requests | 14:05 |
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| flaper87 | 3 (or 2?) have landed already | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | one is left to review (glare's) | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | but we'll get to it before the end of the week | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | it seems that gate is broken | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | Some spec lite were triaged | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | and now those patches can move forward | 14:06 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: why? why? why do you have to do that to me? WHY? | 14:06 |
| * flaper87 runs around the team crying desperatedly | 14:06 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: mmh, do we know the reason? | 14:06 |
| nikhil | hi | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | I'll take a look after the meeting | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | o_O me? | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | that's it! | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Nova v1 -> v2 | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Nova v1 -> v2 (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:07 | |
| kairat | flaper87, see [openstack-dev] [devstack] pip 8 no longer over-installs system packages [was: Gate failure] | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: yours | 14:07 |
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| flaper87 | kairat: so, it's not just glance.... phew | 14:07 |
| kairat | yep | 14:07 |
| sabari | flaper87: we don't break things :P | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i think anything that uses argparse | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: so, v1 -> v2 | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | sabari: lol | 14:08 |
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| mfedosin | okay... no big updates, but several big agreements are here | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | first, we decided to cache glance version | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | and do not request it each time | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | nice | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | and also reload on SIG_HUP | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | Jay was against it, right? | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | gotcha | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | sounds good | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | it will simplify the code dramatically | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | also I updated compat patch in glanceclient | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | so, please review it :) | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | will review. Did you address jokke_'s and my comments? | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266419/ | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | We'll have to discuss it a bit further to reach consensus on what the direction should be | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:10 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | also I have a couple of suggestion that may help in this work | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | but I'm going to talk about it later today | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | xenplugin: | 14:11 |
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| mfedosin | I will remove explicit status updated | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | ok | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | since it's not required | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | #topic FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270752/ (flaper87) | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270752/ (flaper87) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:11 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270752/ | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | That's M-2's tag | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | We were ready to tag on Tuesday but there's a sec fix on going that we wanted to wait for. It couldn't make it in time so the tag has been done w/o it | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | I'm saying that because the review effort was AWESOME! | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | thanks to everyone who jumped in | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | this tag contains several bug fixes for 500 errors | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | and a couple of other things | 14:13 |
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| flaper87 | (IIRC, btw) | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:13 |
| flaper87 | questions? thoughts? | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | we probably should look into releasing store as well soon enough | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | to have common point for testing those two together | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | yeah. I'd like to hold off glanceclient until the compatibility layer lands, though. | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:14 |
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| flaper87 | Let's work together on getting glance_store out next week | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | as a bridge to that | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | #action jokke_ and flaper87 to release glance_store next week | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | do we have topic for the metadef subcommanding? | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | in todays meeting? | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | don't think | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | ok, if we are going to do that we need to time it smart release wise | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving on | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | pls add a topic :D | 14:15 |
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| flaper87 | for today's meeting or next week's | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | #topic Re-think the Glance Drivers team | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Re-think the Glance Drivers team (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:16 | |
| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084562.html | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | who had time to read that email before the meeting? | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | me | 14:16 |
| nikhil | Yes. Let's do it. It's been waiting for a while. | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | From the email: Gonna cut the chase: I think we would do a better job on the specs (and light | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | specs) side if we get rid of the Glance Drivers team and encourage everyone | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | (especially from the core team) to weight in. | 14:16 |
| nikhil | Would be good to try | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | " | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | i think it makes sense, particularly wiht the spec-lite process | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | me | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | you | 14:17 |
| nikhil | agree, spec lite is a bit too decoupled to triage | 14:17 |
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| flaper87 | ok, I'll start working towards that. We'll still have a driver's meeting next Tuesday and I'll present a more formal proposal with a plan forward | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | w000h0000! | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | ok, if there are no objections, I'll move on | 14:18 |
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| flaper87 | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1535900 (spec-lite for a new disk_format value) (rosmaita) | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1535900 | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1535900 (spec-lite for a new disk_format value) (rosmaita) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:19 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535900 in Glance "Add tar as a disk_format to glance" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Arun S A G (sagarun) | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so in the spirit of flaper87's email, i wanted to bring this up at the meeting | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | two questions, basically: | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | (1) tar as a disk_format vs container_format | 14:19 |
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| rosmaita | (2) how to keep the image plugin for glare in sync with glance | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | the patch for the spec-lite does the code change in the artifact plugin, not glance | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | by mistake | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | anyway, if you have an opinion, please comment on the spec-lite | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | mmh... so, I think we should put some extra reviews in the glare migration to get it done asap | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | that's one thing | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | re (1), I'm also torn there, TBH | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | I don't think the decoupling between the two is problem as long as the artifacts API is still considered as experimental | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | To me, it's a container | 14:21 |
| nikhil | I wouldn't want to worry about keeping them in sync particularly and mark any lags in improvements under special tag for bugs in LP | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | me too, but its a weird case ... i asked for clarification, so we'll see | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | from the bug: "There is no metadata in the tarball. By OS tarball i mean it is a compressed tar archive of a / (root filesystem)" | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | that's in reply to your comment | 14:22 |
| nikhil | yeah, it's interesting case | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | I guess it could be either, tbh. | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | Can this be brought up in the mailing list? | 14:23 |
| nikhil | can the disk be considered raw and container tar in this case? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so we need to decide what makes the most sense | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | I think we could benefit from feedback from other teams | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | ML is a good idea | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | Nova and Ironic, FWIW | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | s/FWIW/For example | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | rosmaita: want to take that task on? | 14:23 |
| nikhil | cinder too I think | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: will do | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | #action rosmaita to send an email requesting feedback on whether tar should be considered a container or a disk format | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | Anyone ? | 14:24 |
| * flaper87 is still thinking about container vs disk format in the back of his head | 14:24 | |
| flaper87 | #topic Implement purge_props flag in v2 image-update (part of Nova v1 -> v2 initiative) (mfedosin) | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Implement purge_props flag in v2 image-update (part of Nova v1 -> v2 initiative) (mfedosin) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:24 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: go go go | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | okay, it's me again | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | as you may know there are inconsistencies in removing props in v1 and v2 | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | in v1 you have to provide purge_props flag to image-update | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | and if it's true then all unlisted properties in values will be removed | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | in ve you have to provide list of prop you want to remove | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | in remove_props param | 14:27 |
| * flaper87 likes v2's way of doing things | 14:27 | |
| mfedosin | Nova uses v1 and passes purge_props flag | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | it's pretty easy to implement this on Nova side | 14:27 |
| mfedosin | here's the example how I do it http://paste.openstack.org/show/484572/ | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | doesn't nova always set purge_props false? | 14:28 |
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| mfedosin | rosmaita, no | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | ok | 14:28 |
| mfedosin | at least there are several tempest test that fail | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | TBH, this is one of those cases where we can move Nova to v2 with a workaround on nova side | 14:28 |
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| flaper87 | one of the things I'd like to see gone and not in the compat layer | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | I want to implement this in glance client | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | (support of purge_props) | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | If we can do it in nova, let's do it there. | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | as you may see we make additional 'show' call | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | to fetch all current properties | 14:29 |
| * jokke_ does not like the idea of having "Oops, I killed everything" flags around | 14:29 | |
| flaper87 | right, that's one reason I think we shouldn't add it in the compat layer | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: exactly my feeling | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | I had to remove some propos yday using an old glanceclient | 14:30 |
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| flaper87 | I ended up doing it in mysql directly | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | I don't trust purge_props | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:30 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, lol | 14:30 |
| mfedosin | but it complicates the workflow | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: has anyone from Nova complained aout that piece of code? | 14:31 |
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| mfedosin | tempest complained | 14:31 |
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| * flaper87 kicks tempest's ass | 14:31 | |
| flaper87 | why? | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | what did it complain about? | 14:31 |
| mfedosin | ah, no | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | no one complained | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | ok ok | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | cool | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | I thought about tests failing | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | but if we leavi it in Nova then we will do additional 'show' call | 14:32 |
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| mfedosin | if it's okay, then let's do it like now | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:33 |
| mfedosin | thanks | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | if there's a bigger complain, do let us know | 14:33 |
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| mfedosin | sure | 14:33 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Incorrect glance v2 API behavior ( mfedosin) | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incorrect glance v2 API behavior ( mfedosin) (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:33 | |
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| mfedosin | yes, it's mine again | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | #link http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-image-v2.html | 14:34 |
| mfedosin | me and Stuart found a wrong behavior in v2 | 14:34 |
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| mfedosin | if image contains no data then glance has to return 204 code after image-download | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | but now it's 200 and glance creates an empty file | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | mmh, is that during downloads ? | 14:35 |
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| mfedosin | yes | 14:35 |
| mfedosin | uploads work fine | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | so, you're saying: When I try to download an image and there's no data, I get 200 | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | if we don't provide data then glance returns 204 | 14:36 |
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| mfedosin | flaper87, correct | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | by no data you mean the file is empty or there hasn't been an actual upload? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: which one? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | empty file? | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | or no upload has been done? | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | this one <flaper87> so, you're saying: When I try to download an image and there's no data, I get 200 | 14:36 |
| flaper87 | because, if the image is active and the file is empty, there's no way for glance to know that | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | if the image is queued and I try to download an image, then prob 204 (or error?) should happen | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: when you say "no data" do you mean 0 byte file? | 14:37 |
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| mfedosin | rosmaita, yes | 14:37 |
| nikhil | I think this is a bug | 14:37 |
| nikhil | and not incorrect behavior | 14:38 |
| nikhil | the checksum should fail | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: so there is a location set, it just has 0 bytes? | 14:38 |
| nikhil | for an "active" image with 0 bytes | 14:38 |
| mfedosin | location is set, right | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: good point about the checksum | 14:38 |
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| mfedosin | and glance creates a file in store | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | so, it's a bug in the upload path | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | ? | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | as in, allowing uploads of empty files is not really what we want | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | or 0-sized files | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | s/files/images/ | 14:39 |
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| mfedosin | here's the paste http://paste.openstack.org/show/484577/ | 14:39 |
| nikhil | It would be good to know who really needs a 0 byte file. Else, we need to fix this corner case. | 14:39 |
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| kairat | nikhil, AFAIK nova | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | there was discussion around this topic in ML I think | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: there's a not so old thread about this in the mailing list | 14:40 |
| nikhil | ah ha | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | there's a use cause for it in nova, that I don't fully agree with | 14:40 |
| nikhil | scolling | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | the problem is that nova relies heavily on that behavior | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: ++ | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | I still think this is wrong and there should be a different way to do this from nova | 14:40 |
| mfedosin | and what's happen during download http://paste.openstack.org/show/484578/ | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | lol @ file "lalala" | 14:41 |
| * flaper87 notices mfedosin likes to sing | 14:41 | |
| jokke_ | so IMO if we allow 0-size image to transition the image to active the output needs to be 0-size image file ;) | 14:41 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, You saw through me | 14:41 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_: ++ | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | then we have to update api specification | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | WE FOUND THE BUG! | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | it's in the specs | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:42 |
| mfedosin | OMG | 14:42 |
| * flaper87 dances | 14:42 | |
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| * mfedosin sings | 14:43 | |
| flaper87 | does anyone disagree with the above? | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: nikhil ? | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | i am confused by the paste | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | where's mclaren? | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: first paste creates an image and uploads an empty file | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | sencond paste downloads it | 14:43 |
| mfedosin | he's one how found it | 14:43 |
| flaper87 | the point mfedosin is making is that the second paste shouldreturn 204 | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | I'd argue that 200 is correct becuase the image resource *does* have a file | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | it's just empty, which is not glance's problem | 14:44 |
| nikhil | that's correct | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: does that make sense? ^ | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | sorry was looking at wrong one | 14:44 |
| nikhil | but I think we should check RFC | 14:44 |
| * flaper87 roflk | 14:44 | |
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| nikhil | will wait for sigmavirus24_awa's input | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | yes, if it does have a file, shoudl return 200 and file content | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | whcih is nothing in this case | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | yup, sigmavirus24_awa input would be cool | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | right | 14:45 |
| nikhil | I am a bit torn on this idea | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24_awa: ^ pls, read backlog and provide feedback | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I think the problem is bit vague explanation in the API reference | 14:45 |
| nikhil | anyways, will wait for sigmavirus24_awa | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | "If no image data exists, the call returns the HTTP 204 response code. " | 14:45 |
| kairat | Are we going to create empty file in nova case? | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | kairat, seems so | 14:46 |
| kairat | Hmm | 14:46 |
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| flaper87 | I guess so | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | they promised to fix this behavior | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | so looking that reference the assumption indeed is that we return 204 if the image size is 0 | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | I don't like the idea but to prevent that we'll have to forbid 0-sized files | 14:46 |
| mfedosin | with empty images | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | which breaks the API | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: could you update the API reference? | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | we can get sigmavirus24_awa review there | 14:47 |
| mfedosin | okay | 14:47 |
| sabari | IIRC, when glance_store throws NotFound we return a 204 | 14:47 |
| sabari | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v2/image_data.py#L304 | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | that would be compat with the API ref | 14:47 |
| nikhil | yeah, but in this case it won't raise NotFound | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | sabari: what nikhil said ^ | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | that's lunatic as well | 14:48 |
| nikhil | right you are jokke_ | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | why do we returnn 2XX if backend returns NotFound | 14:48 |
| sabari | yeah so that's out defintion of no image data :) | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | and yes only error condition listed is 403 | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | I would prefer not to create empty file | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | horrible | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | in store | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | ok, 10 mins left. Would like to have some time for Open Discussions | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | #action mfedosin to update the API ref | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | #action sigmavirus24_awa to attend meetings and review mfedosin patch | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:49 |
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| flaper87 | Gooooooooo Crazy! | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/2 is about request-id using hooks | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | shoot all your open questions | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | i have implemented as per stuart and jokke_'s suggestion | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | need early reviews ^^ | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | abhishekk: ++ | 14:51 |
| flaper87 | will review | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | What do we do about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218864/ | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | i know m2 is near but when you get time please review | 14:51 |
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| flaper87 | abhishekk: m2 is out | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | flaper87: thank you, great | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | For reference TC approved priority change to osc instead of individual project clients | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: IMHO, we should have one last CLI release where we can fix some things, clean some others up and freeze it | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: ++ | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: Nice basis for fork? | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | s/priority change/cross-project spec/ | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: not my fork ;) | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | seriously, I know you don't like OSC | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease, don't do crazy stuff | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | not me | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | ok ok ok | 14:54 |
| * flaper87 hugs jokke_ | 14:54 | |
| jokke_ | it's the rest of the vocal community | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | I'm just trying to preserve last bits of sanity :P | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | we'll see how many forks come out of this | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | I hope len(forks) == len(projects) | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | I don't think there will be (many) but that's my perception | 14:55 |
| * nikhil need to run. | 14:55 | |
| nikhil | thanks all. | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: FWIW, ppl could have done the same with current CLIs if they didn't like them | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | but ppl didn't do that | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | so, why should the same happen with OSC ? | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | anyway, that's just my opinion | 14:55 |
| flaper87 | good thing this is Open Discussion | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | but | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | 2s | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: true ... telling that people have been happy with the clients provided | 14:56 |
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| jokke_ | ;) | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | before we start insulting each other, as we normally do, let's stop and not do it here | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:56 |
| * flaper87 hugs jokke_ ... again | 14:56 | |
| flaper87 | ok, that's it folks | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | but that does not remove the question is that large refactoring warranted at this situation | 14:57 |
| dshakhray | pls review) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248359/ | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | *hugsback* | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | dshakhray: ++ | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | THANKS FOLKS! | 14:57 |
| mfedosin | yes folks, please review Darja's code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248359/ | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | have a good one | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | and an even more awesome weekend | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: ++ | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | o/~ | 14:58 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 14:58:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-21-13.59.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-21-13.59.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-01-21-13.59.log.html | 14:58 |
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| kairat | thanks | 14:58 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 15:01:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | morning | 15:01 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
| lakshmiS | o/ | 15:01 |
| yingjun | o/ | 15:01 |
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| TravT | allright, as usual agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| TravT | feel free to add | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:03 |
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| TravT | lakshmiS: this time must be less fun for you now that you are PST | 15:03 |
| TravT | ;) | 15:03 |
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| lakshmiS | yeah have to get up early | 15:03 |
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| lakshmiS | almost forgot last week :) | 15:04 |
| TravT | well, thanks for making it | 15:04 |
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| TravT | so, mitaka 2 is done | 15:04 |
| TravT | i submitted the release tag request yesterday | 15:04 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270522/ | 15:04 |
| TravT | and it went through 30 minutes ago. https://github.com/openstack/searchlight/releases/tag/0.2.0.0b2 | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | yay! | 15:05 |
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| TravT | for the client, we probably won't do a release until the end of mitaka | 15:05 |
| TravT | gives us some time to play with it before setting it in stone | 15:06 |
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| sjmc7 | yep, agree with that | 15:06 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 15:06 |
| TravT | lhcheng found some feedback on it for us last night after the first two patches merged | 15:07 |
| TravT | so we should take a look at that | 15:07 |
| yingjun | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249076/ | 15:08 |
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| yingjun | comment in ps12 | 15:08 |
| yingjun | from Lin | 15:08 |
| TravT | basically | 15:09 |
| TravT | openstack search resource type list | 15:09 |
| TravT | instead of | 15:09 |
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| TravT | openstack search resource-type list | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | hmm | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | there doesn’t appear to be any reason given for not using a dash | 15:10 |
| TravT | no, just the dean troyer doesn't like it | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | i guess i don’t really have a strong opinion on it. seems weird coming from a unix background | 15:11 |
| TravT | i suppose that one of the points of openstack client is some kind of consistency... which i think will be a little hard for us anyway. | 15:11 |
| TravT | i don't know | 15:11 |
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| TravT | i'm inclined to see that third patch finished out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260899/ | 15:12 |
| sjmc7 | since it’s merged, we can note lin’s concern as a separate bug | 15:12 |
| TravT | then spend some time with it and ask for some feedback from the client team and ux team | 15:12 |
| TravT | and deal with as bugs before releasing client | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, i’d like to get that search functionality merged | 15:13 |
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| sjmc7 | then the client’s at a useful enough state we can release it | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | i think that approach -- merge & fix bugs -- makes sense, especially pre-official-release | 15:14 |
| TravT | being able to actually use it will make it easier for us to evaluate | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | moves the bikeshedding to a different patch | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:15 |
| TravT | I also think my patch to install it with devstack works now (although it seems to be stuck in zuul check queue) | 15:15 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268358/ | 15:15 |
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| yingjun | will test that:) | 15:16 |
| TravT | thanks | 15:16 |
| TravT | it is a little easier to test now that your first two patches merged yingjun | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | now there’s actually something there for it to register as an entry point? :) | 15:17 |
| TravT | yeah, kind of makes a bit of a difference... ;) | 15:17 |
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| TravT | #topic bp and bug review slot | 15:18 |
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| TravT | so, now that we're in mitaka 3 timeframe, i thought we should do a full BP and bug review time like we've done at the beginning of other milestones | 15:18 |
| TravT | we can either agree on an hour or so in addition to this meeting or perhaps dedicate next week's meeting to it | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | happy to do either; i think we should try to do it sooner than later | 15:19 |
| TravT | this is to just "groom" the list and help ensure priorities are set | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | yep. but we also need to start doing the work | 15:21 |
| TravT_ | hmm, i dropped connection | 15:21 |
| TravT_ | any copy paste action? | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | i’m gonna buy you an internet connection for christmas | 15:21 |
| TravT_ | i bought a fancy new ac1900 router over the weekend, hoping that might help | 15:22 |
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| sjmc7 | no, you didn’t miss anything, except that i am concerned that the longer we wait to decide on specs the less time we have to do them | 15:22 |
| rosmaita | do people have time tomorrow for spec review? | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | sure | 15:22 |
| rosmaita | maybe a little later in the day for lakshmiS ? | 15:23 |
| lakshmiS | after 10:00 PST if its tomorrow since we have our internal meeting before that | 15:23 |
| TravT_ | tomorrow is my worst day for meetings this week | 15:23 |
| sjmc7 | we could shoot for monday | 15:23 |
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| sjmc7 | waiting another week makes me a bit nervous; the cycle deadline is looming | 15:24 |
| rosmaita | monday should be ok for me | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | here's my availability: any time rest of today. 1 PM EST or later. | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | the latter part of that was for tomorrow | 15:24 |
| TravT_ | 1 pm EST or later | 15:25 |
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| rosmaita | after 1pm EST today or tomorrow works for me | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7 | me too, i think | 15:26 |
| TravT | these times are probably all bad for yingjun | 15:26 |
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| TravT | yingjun: what is your timezone? | 15:26 |
| yingjun | yep:( | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | how about earlier on monday? | 15:26 |
| yingjun | 23:26 now | 15:26 |
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| lakshmiS | my preference would be for tomorrow to get some time before tomorrow's demo | 15:26 |
| yingjun | earlier monday work for me | 15:26 |
| TravT | :S i've got something monday AM... | 15:27 |
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| TravT | what about this time tomorrow? | 15:27 |
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| yingjun | ok for me | 15:28 |
| TravT | 15:00 UTC tomorrow | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | i can do that | 15:28 |
| sjmc7 | um… yeah | 15:28 |
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| TravT | resounding vote of confidence sjmc7? | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | checking calendar. yeah, i can do that | 15:29 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: you could delay the swift plugin demo | 15:30 |
| lakshmiS | i will try. i might miss the later part of the meeting to drop off my kid to school | 15:30 |
| TravT | all, just FYI, lakshmiS volunteered to demo the swift plugin in an internal demo meeting tomorrow | 15:30 |
| rosmaita | good job, lakshmiS ! | 15:31 |
| yingjun | nice | 15:31 |
| lakshmiS | minus the notifications though! | 15:31 |
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| TravT | ok, i'm a complete moron | 15:31 |
| TravT | tomorrow morning my daughter is giving her first presentation | 15:32 |
| rosmaita | is she demoing the swift plugin too? | 15:32 |
| TravT | i think the title has something to do with poor parenting | 15:32 |
| lakshmiS | :) | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:32 |
| TravT | :D | 15:32 |
| sjmc7 | if she does a good job, bring her to Austin | 15:32 |
| rosmaita | TravT: i went to a thing at my daughter's school where she read a story, and it began "if my dad wasn't always away on business trips" | 15:33 |
| rosmaita | got a lot of dirty looks from the other parents | 15:33 |
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| TravT_ | wow | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | okay, here's what i propose | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | please just go spend time looking at specs today | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | add comments | 15:35 |
| TravT_ | and let's have a meeting tuesday at 15:00 UTC if needed. | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | works for me | 15:36 |
| lakshmiS | +1 | 15:36 |
| RickA-HP | Sounds good. | 15:36 |
| yingjun | ok | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | am i looking in the wrong place: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/searchlight-specs isn't showing a lot of specs | 15:36 |
| TravT_ | there aren't many specs | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | hurrah! :) | 15:37 |
| TravT_ | only those that had sufficient complexity | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | there are also some BPs, though they’re more straightforward | 15:37 |
| TravT_ | otherwise they are just BPs | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | they typically don’t need much discussion other than a pririoty | 15:37 |
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| TravT_ | and then in next weeks regular meeting we will do a grooming of the BPs and the bugs for priority and targeting | 15:37 |
| rosmaita | anyone have an easy link to the BPs to look at? | 15:37 |
| TravT_ | yep | 15:37 |
| TravT_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:38 |
| TravT_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight | 15:38 |
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| rosmaita | ty | 15:38 |
| TravT_ | primarily the ones we need to look at on bp's are those targetted at mitaka and those without a priority. | 15:38 |
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| TravT | thanks rosmaita | 15:39 |
| TravT | i'll send a meeting reminder to those here for the 15:00 Tuesday tie | 15:39 |
| TravT | time | 15:39 |
| TravT | #topic mid cycle | 15:39 |
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| TravT | so, i wasn't planning on formally proposing a searchlight mid cycle | 15:39 |
| TravT | but i just wanted to mention that Steve and I both got approval to go to the horizon mid cycle and david-lyle said there will be plenty of room if we wanted to have some time on searchlight | 15:40 |
| TravT | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/HorizonMitakaSprint | 15:40 |
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| rosmaita | i am not doing any travel! | 15:41 |
| TravT | smart man | 15:41 |
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| TravT | so, i'm just putting that out there. | 15:41 |
| TravT | i'm really hoping to have the horizon searchlight panel in pretty good shape by then | 15:42 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, that’d be nice | 15:42 |
| * TravT which would be easier if i stopped spending 95% of my time doing reviews | 15:43 | |
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| TravT | #topic API docs | 15:43 |
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| TravT | Just a note that creating API docs now has a new process | 15:43 |
| sjmc7 | aww :( | 15:44 |
| TravT | so, when we create actual API docs, we should follow it | 15:44 |
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| TravT | i've skimmed it and I think it should be better | 15:44 |
| TravT | lakshmiS: looks like they use swagger now | 15:44 |
| TravT | i know the previous API docs were kind of difficult to do and lakshmiS fought with them on glance a bit | 15:45 |
| RickA-HP | Travis, do you have a link to the new process? | 15:45 |
| TravT | http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/what-s-next-for-openstack-application-developer-guides?awesm=awe.sm_hPDfT | 15:45 |
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| RickA-HP | Thanks. | 15:45 |
| TravT | Yeah, so just a heads up | 15:45 |
| TravT | #topic Cross Project Liaisons | 15:45 |
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| TravT | there has been an active effort to better formalize communication across projects | 15:46 |
| TravT | and the reached out to all the PTLs to look at some specs on it | 15:46 |
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| TravT | the most recent one ratified identifying specific liasons for various duties | 15:47 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266072 | 15:47 |
| TravT | that's the spec | 15:47 |
| TravT | but | 15:47 |
| TravT | here's the wiki with the various liasions | 15:47 |
| TravT | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:47 |
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| TravT | it defaults to PTL, but there is opportunity for each project to divvy up the duties | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | i can do it unless anyone else has a burning desire to do so | 15:48 |
| TravT | umm, you can do all of them? | 15:49 |
| TravT | what are you volunteering for? | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | umm… reading | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | the oslo one, i hadn’t made it further down :) | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | relman looks like it probably should be the PTL | 15:50 |
| lakshmiS | i think the interproject liasons could be different to concentrate more on a specific project | 15:50 |
| TravT | yeah, i put my name specifically on relman | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | guess i can do docs as well, though i don’t think that’d affect us much at te moment | 15:51 |
| RickA-HP | Do we want an interproject liaison for each plug-in? | 15:51 |
| lakshmiS | like searchlight liason for glance | 15:51 |
| lakshmiS | i can do that for glance and swift | 15:51 |
| TravT | ok, i guess you can just add an entry | 15:52 |
| lakshmiS | ok | 15:52 |
| TravT | i added my name for cross project spec liaison as well, but if other's have interest we can add more than one person | 15:53 |
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| TravT | for vulnerability management, i thought sjmc7 and i would be good candidates as well | 15:54 |
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| sjmc7 | umm.. yeah, i can do that | 15:55 |
| TravT | ok, i'll add both our names their | 15:56 |
| TravT | there | 15:56 |
| RickA-HP | Travis, do you think we need an interproject liaison with Nova? If so I can do that. | 15:57 |
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| TravT | I don't know if we need to name one or not, but that'd be great if you do it if we need it | 15:58 |
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| TravT | usually the named ones are those that have a really tight inter dependency | 15:58 |
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| RickA-HP | Ok | 15:58 |
| TravT | like nova getting angry at glance api | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | yeah - i’m not sure we’re enough on anyone’s radar for them to come mention things to us | 15:58 |
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| TravT | ok, well update the wiki sections appropriately | 15:59 |
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| TravT | #topic out of time | 15:59 |
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| TravT | well, we're out of time for today | 15:59 |
| TravT | the action is spec review | 15:59 |
| TravT | #action (review specs https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/searchlight-specs) | 15:59 |
| TravT | and we'll check in on Tuesday on that | 16:00 |
| TravT | sjmc7, i'll also start looking at your role patch | 16:00 |
| sjmc7 | okey dokey | 16:00 |
| TravT | Thanks everybody! | 16:00 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 16:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-01-21-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-01-21-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting | 16:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 16:08:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:08 |
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| odyssey4me | Hello? | 16:10 |
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| automagically | Hello | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Agenda & rollcall | 16:10 |
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| mattt | \o | 16:10 |
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| dstanek | odyssey4me: you alway roll call in the other room :-P | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | sorry about the late start :/ | 16:10 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 16:10 |
| spotz | o/ | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | heh dstanek I do it there as not everyone sticks around in this room | 16:11 |
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| jmccrory | hello | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | presente | 16:11 |
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| mcarden | . | 16:11 |
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| KLevenstein | o/ | 16:12 |
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| Bjoern | o/ | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | Alright, welcome all. Apologies for the late start. | 16:12 |
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| b3rnard0 | hello | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | Apologies too for not yet sending out the reminder and further details about the mid cycle. I'm still trying to get all that together. | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | Hopefully that'll be done by COB tomorrow. | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Mid-Cycle Meetup | 16:13 |
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| odyssey4me | For now - does anyone have any questions about the Ops Mid Cycle or OSA Mid Cycle? | 16:14 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:14 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: am i correct in that the ops midcycle is in manchester and the osa will be at rax offices in LON ? | 16:14 |
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| cloudnull | or all will be at the same venue ? | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | yes, that's correct - we have been invited to hold some sessions at the ops mid cycle too | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | kk | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | I'm working with the organisers to secure a few sessions in a room there. | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | nice | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | It does seem to be that there is a space issue, so I'll be working with them to see if we can sort that out. | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | I have asked for topics and provided an etherpad to propose topics - please add to the etherpad. | 16:16 |
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| odyssey4me | I'm looking for proposals - but I'm thinking that we'll likely do some dev docs to help new contributors, I think we need to discuss the dynamic inventory, and we should try to finalise the new roles for searchlight, ironic, designate, zaqar, etc. I'd like to also formulate and document some policies around when we do sha bumps, rabbit upgrades, etc. I',m not sure that we can fit that all in - we may have to | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | defer some to the summit. | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | the multi-os support linked is something I've been working on the groundwork for. | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | at least to add to the list of branches working on it | 16:18 |
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| odyssey4me | prometheanfire please add to the applicable etherpad so that everyone else is exposed to the work you're doing | 16:18 |
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| prometheanfire | sure, right now it's just disk-image-builder, but I plan on using the master-rhel branch to base my chanes off of | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | it'd be ideal if multi-os enablement work could be proposed directly to the repositories though, rather than in forks | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | need to get the rax-nova-agent to work first I think | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | #link https://github.com/cloudnull/os-ansible-deployment/tree/master-rhel | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | it'll be done in a fork at first because it needs to be tested | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | it's a large change | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | ah, there's some high level stuff that needs to be done before anything that actually touches another OS comes into play | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | just the application of patterns to only use apt if the package manager is apt, for instance | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | also to import vars that apply to the right OS | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | splitting into var files seems like a good idea | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | that can be done now, in tree without needing anything special | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | with the seperatation of all of the roles that should be easier to do | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | without impacting the main repo | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | right | 16:21 |
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| odyssey4me | once that's done, then systemd support needs to come into play | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | since the first pass is only host support what's in a container shouldn't matter at least at first | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | once that's in - then adding another OS will largely be simply adding var files and some task files for os-specific stuff if need be | 16:21 |
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| prometheanfire | right | 16:22 |
| prometheanfire | odyssey4me: can the pre-work be fully colated so we can start work on it? | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | prometheanfire well, someone needs to volunteer to pull the interested parties together and put together a spec for a body of work | 16:23 |
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| odyssey4me | myself and cloudnull are maxed out right now | 16:23 |
| prometheanfire | the main reason I haven't done the pre-work is because I don't know what it is | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, perhaps we should specifically discuss this topic next week and put together a spec in an etherpad | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | happy with that? | 16:24 |
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| odyssey4me | ie next week thu we'll do a design workshop in the community meeting | 16:25 |
| prometheanfire | yep, thanks :D | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to facilitate a design discussion in next week's meeting for multi-os enablement | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | right | 16:25 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:25 |
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| odyssey4me | FYI to all, I tagged Liberty 12.0.4 and Kilo 11.2.8 earlier today after the pip fix patches merged. | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | That should help everyone get on with their lives, and we now have safeguards in place to reduce the risk of this happening again. | 16:26 |
| cloudnull | ++ W00t! | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | Due to some very serious CVE's being released since the last Kilo SHA bump, I'm pushing to have a SHA bumpe merged today and will tag again immediately. | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | Kilo SHA bump: https://review.openstack.org/265491 | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | the last Liberty bump missed the latest CVE fix, so I'll do the same for Liberty: https://review.openstack.org/270760 | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | please review and vote accordingly - I'd like to tag tomorrow at the latest | 16:28 |
| prometheanfire | so, 11.2.9? | 16:28 |
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| prometheanfire | and 12.0.5 | 16:28 |
| odyssey4me | 11.2.8 and 12.0.5 | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | ah, I misspoke earlier - I released 11.2.7 - sorry about that | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: because of those CVEs can we auto +w those patches? or do we have another core that can help shove the changes through ? | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | mattt / stevelle could you do the honours of providing a second vote? | 16:30 |
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| mattt | odyssey4me: i'll have a peek | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | thanks mattt | 16:30 |
| cloudnull | + d34dh0r53 hughsaunders | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Open discussion | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, we have time for anything anyone wants to raise | 16:31 |
| spotz | One quick thing | 16:31 |
| spotz | If your patch is a doc it's been real handy if you put Doc: on it so I can find it | 16:32 |
| automagically | Ah, good to know | 16:32 |
| spotz | Might even be good for bugs but I think most people bug it and fix it themselves | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | well, typically a bug has the bug/<number> topic | 16:33 |
| automagically | spotz: 2 from me that I should have tagged as such: https://review.openstack.org/268266 and https://review.openstack.org/268231 | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | it might be good to use some sort of topic tag for docs too | 16:33 |
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| spotz | Thanks automagically I'll get them after the meeting | 16:34 |
| odyssey4me | good suggestion spotz :) | 16:34 |
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| odyssey4me | You may have noticed that we're having trouble merging patches into Master right now. | 16:35 |
| odyssey4me | It seems that we're continually getting into something that seems like a race condition. | 16:35 |
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| odyssey4me | The tempest role tries to add a glance image. Glance returns that the image is in just fine, but glance_store is actually spitting errors out. | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | so the image that glance thinks is uploaded, is not | 16:36 |
| stevelle | odyssey4me: I dont know much about the race condition yet. Is this related to running multiple Keystones at all? | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | so the tempest run fails | 16:36 |
| automagically | newb here….and the tempest run is part of the gate? | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle perhaps | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | automagically yes, tempest does a functional test of our build after the ansible build is complete | 16:37 |
| mattt | stevelle: i was wondering that today actually | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | it's how we know that what we've built actually works | 16:37 |
| automagically | Thx | 16:37 |
| stevelle | in-memory caching in a load-balanced app, perhaps mattt? | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle I've tried reducing the galera & rabbit affinities down, but that got the same result. Perhaps I should reduce the keystone affinities too. | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | Alright, I think that's a discussion we should take to the channel afterwards. I wanted to raise awareness and solicit help. | 16:39 |
| odyssey4me | good pointer stevelle - as this is only happenning in master, we could be seeing an upstream change in behaviour/defaults | 16:41 |
| odyssey4me | any other topics, questions or thoughts? | 16:44 |
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| odyssey4me | alright, we're done then | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | thank you all for your time - have a great day! | 16:48 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 16:48:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-01-21-16.08.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-01-21-16.08.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2016/openstack_ansible_meeting.2016-01-21-16.08.log.html | 16:48 |
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| prithiv | Hi Cathy | 16:57 |
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| pcarver | hi | 17:00 |
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| cathy_ | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 21 17:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: hi | 17:00 |
| LouisF | hi | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | mohankumar_: hi | 17:01 |
| mohankumar_ | hi | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | LouisF: hi | 17:01 |
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| pcarver | hello | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: hi | 17:01 |
| cathy_ | anyone has any topic in mind? | 17:01 |
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| prithiv | i have few queries.. but i would like to ask that through email along with the logs and facts… | 17:02 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: sure, let's do that through emails as you have done before | 17:02 |
| prithiv | i have been someone sending lot of emails these days about issues… sorry if i have been troubling :) | 17:02 |
| LouisF | prithiv: no problem | 17:03 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: np | 17:03 |
| prithiv | Thank you Louis | 17:03 |
| pcarver | prithiv: Glad to see the emails. I'm sorry I've been too swamped with non-SFC fire drills to do more than observe | 17:03 |
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| prithiv | Paul: Thank you Paul. I have to discuss some stuffs about Astara.. I will sync up with you later | 17:04 |
| prithiv | PArdon me | 17:04 |
| prithiv | Gluon | 17:04 |
| vikram_ | hi | 17:04 |
| pcarver | Also glad to see that bugs are being worked through Launchpad although I haven't been able to research any of them | 17:04 |
| LouisF | vikram_: hi | 17:04 |
| cathy_ | vikram_: hi | 17:04 |
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| vikram_ | sorry to be late | 17:05 |
| cathy_ | pcarver: yes, we are cleaning up bugs and set them to the right state. | 17:05 |
| cathy_ | vikram_: np | 17:05 |
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| cathy_ | Now that we have merged all the patches that are related to this first release of networking-sfc, I am going to work on official release of the codes with release team. | 17:06 |
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| s3wong | hello --- sorry, a bit late | 17:07 |
| cathy_ | I hope everyone can do more testing of the codes and submit bugs found. | 17:08 |
| cathy_ | s3wong: hi | 17:08 |
| prithiv | Cathy: Awesome. looking forward for uodate | 17:08 |
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| cathy_ | prithiv: sure, I will update everyone in the next IRC meeting, and through emails if needed. | 17:09 |
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| cathy_ | I might need help from you folks to help with some tasks during the release process. | 17:10 |
| prithiv | Cathy: Sure. Doing the testing rigorously for the past one week.. will update | 17:10 |
| prithiv | More than happy to help Cathy… | 17:10 |
| prithiv | Anything particular ? | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: thanks! | 17:11 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: not yet for now | 17:11 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ , pleasure | 17:11 |
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| cathy_ | mohankumar_: thanks! | 17:11 |
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| igordcard_ | hi networking-sfc - what would be the next steps for the project? | 17:12 |
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| prithiv | how far the odl and onos integration has gone | 17:12 |
| prithiv | any plans to start that in near future ? | 17:12 |
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| pcarver | igordcard_: What I'd like to see next is more drivers | 17:12 |
| pcarver | i.e. drivers for a number of different SDN controller backends | 17:13 |
| mohankumar_ | prithiv , ONOS integration was done , the code already up for review | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | igordcard_: next step is to release the codes:-) Then we can start discussing what enhancement features for the next release. | 17:13 |
| vikram | cathy_:+1 | 17:13 |
| mohankumar_ | cathy_ : +1 | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | yes, drivers for a number of different controller bankends is a good one | 17:13 |
| igordcard_ | cathy_: so, apart from the release itself, everything is up for discussion correct? | 17:13 |
| prithiv | one quick question.. sorry if it is out of sfc focus… | 17:13 |
| cathy_ | igordcard_: yes | 17:14 |
| prithiv | any update about ovs support for nsh ? | 17:14 |
| prithiv | so that nsh can be implemented in sfc | 17:14 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: good question | 17:14 |
| igordcard_ | prithiv: well it's of sfc focus | 17:14 |
| cathy_ | NSH for SFC is another one for next release. | 17:14 |
| igordcard_ | cathy_: with metadata support? | 17:15 |
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| cathy_ | but we need to first get the NSH accepted in OVS community | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | igordcard_: yes | 17:15 |
| LouisF | prithiv: onos driver -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266797/ | 17:15 |
| cathy_ | igordcard_: type 2 NSH support | 17:15 |
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| prithiv | Thanks Cathy | 17:16 |
| cathy_ | type 2 which is variable length for metadata since you can never predict the length and type of every metadata | 17:16 |
| prithiv | Thanks Louis | 17:16 |
| prithiv | I will look at the code | 17:16 |
| igordcard_ | cathy_: I see, thanks | 17:17 |
| cathy_ | different usage scenario has different requirement for metadata | 17:17 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard_: prithiv I know Intel is working on NSH in OVS community. If you can help get NSH released in OVS, then we can take it over and add some enhancement in networking-sfc project. | 17:18 |
| prithiv | sure. | 17:18 |
| LouisF | regarding sfc nsh status -> https://tools.ietf.org/wg/sfc/ | 17:18 |
| prithiv | i will check and see what can be done from my end | 17:19 |
| cathy_ | AFAIK, Openstack will only accept new feature of OVS unless it is accepted in OVS | 17:19 |
| igordcard_ | cathy_: I'm not involved in NSH | 17:19 |
| cathy_ | igordcard_: do you know who in Intel is involved in that? Euri? Or Danny? Maybe you can help find out and shoot me an email | 17:20 |
| cathy_ | ? | 17:20 |
| cathy_ | prithiv: thanks! | 17:20 |
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| igordcard_ | cathy_: I'm not sure it's within my power to help NSH being accepted in OVS though.. | 17:21 |
| cathy_ | let each of us think about the features for next release. We can then discuss them in the IRC meeting and prioritize them | 17:22 |
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| cathy_ | igordcard_: OK, I see | 17:22 |
| igordcard_ | but I am also looking forward to having NSH in OVS | 17:22 |
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| cathy_ | but importantly let's get this first release successfully completed so that more people can try it in a smooth way. So let's concentrate on this task for now:-) | 17:24 |
| cathy_ | any other topic? If no one has any specific issue that needs to be discussed in this meeting, I guess we can end the meeting early today | 17:25 |
| s3wong | cool | 17:25 |
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| vikram | nothing from my end | 17:26 |
| prithiv | that will be all from my side | 17:26 |
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| cathy_ | Good. I will count 5 seconds and end the meeting if no specific issue to discuss:-) | 17:26 |
| pcarver | sounds good | 17:26 |
| prithiv | 5 | 17:26 |
| prithiv | 4 | 17:26 |
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| prithiv | 3 | 17:26 |
| prithiv | 2 | 17:26 |
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| cathy_ | #endmeeting | 17:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 21 17:26:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-21-17.00.html | 17:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-21-17.00.txt | 17:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-01-21-17.00.log.html | 17:26 |
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| cathy_ | bye everyone | 17:27 |
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| prithiv | bye | 17:27 |
| mohankumar_ | bye | 17:27 |
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