Wednesday, 2016-05-18

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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit: python-keystonemiddleware: failed to build 0cd8b0f
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hrwdid someone built openstack-mitaka and openstack-mitaka/common/ srpms under rhel?06:27
chandankumarmrunge, jpena|off number80 \o/06:27
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mrungeo/ chandankumar06:31
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rdobot[sensu] NEW: - check-delorean-newton-current @ |#| Build failure on centos7-master/current: keystonemiddleware:
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zoliXXLgood morning07:43
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* amoralej looking into the keystonemiddleware issue08:15
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rdogerritMerged openstack/gnocchi-distgit: Auto generate gnocchi.conf
rdogerritMerged openstack/dib-utils-distgit: prune changelog from rpm-master
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit: Added dependencies to build sample config in autodoc
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rdogerritJavier Peña created openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit: Add rpm-liberty branch
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rdogerritJavier Peña created openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit: Add rpm-mitaka branch
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/cinder-distgit: Cleanup i18n
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rdogerritMerged openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit: Added dependencies to build sample config in autodoc
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rdobot[sensu] RESOLVED: - check-delorean-newton-current @ |#| No build failures detected:
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EmilienMapevec: any update about newton deps?09:33
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/keystone-distgit: Cleanup i18n
apevecEmilienM, we'll have newton CBS tags today, that's the first step09:34
apevecno eta for testing repo on buildlogs yet09:35
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/glance-distgit: Cleanup i18n
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* hrw installs openstack under rhelsa...09:51
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/swift-distgit: Cleanup i18n
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apevecjpena, amoralej - has anyone tried novanetwork w/ Packstack recently? We don't cover it in CI so it must be broken by definition.09:59
amoraleji did10:00
amoralejwith flat topology10:00
amoralejit worked10:00
apevecon master?10:00
amoralejiirc mitaka10:00
amoralejdo you want me to test it in master?10:00
amoralejbtw, nova network is being deprecated in newton10:01
apevecamoralej, there's report against older version, lemme find link10:01
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amoralejlet me find out in the logs10:06
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amoralejI'll try to reproduce it with rdo packages, it may be an issue with the configuration10:18
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hrwsomeone remember which part of openstack requires erlang?10:27
jpenahrw: rabbitmq10:28
hrwand where are days when one/two languages were enough...10:28
hrw~curse you rabbitmq10:28
jpenachandankumar: I'm looking at some bugs to triage. Do we have a standard wording to close too old bugs (Icehouse/Juno)?10:28
hrwjpena: did anyone tried rdo/openstack under rhel?10:28
jpenahrw: I'm not sure I have tried mitaka, but it should work, provided you have the right repos enabled (common, extras)10:29
hrwjpena: good luck10:29
hrwError: Package: erlang-wx-R16B-03.16.el7.aarch64 (local-openstack-build)10:29
hrw           Requires:
hrwwhere from it took that WXU_2.8? no idea10:30
hrwor try to find libgnome{cups,print22,printui22} for wxGTK from common/10:30
jpenahrw: erlang-wx looks like a wxwidgets binding for erlang, why is it needed?10:31
hrwjpena: other erlang packages depend on it10:31
hrwI am going to hack erlang.spec and kill all wx calls10:31
toddnniSidetrack question. We have used upstream puppet modules and our own integration module to manage OpenStack, it works great. What do you think, should we consider using TripleO to get closer to community supported installation?10:33
hrwone day I will check what TripleO means10:35
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toddnniOpenStack on OpenStack :)10:36
hrwonce I get OpenStack built for rhelsa I will install it10:37
hrwonce it work I am going to run fedora 24 instance with 56GB of ram and build rdo/openstack in it.10:37
hrwthen run it and run fedora to check does it work10:38
hrwbut without OpenStack on OpenStack on OpenStack ;d10:39
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hrwmariadb-server-galera requires galera. but mariadb-galera does not provide galera ;(11:49
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apevechrw, there was pkg reorg, in 10 galera is included in main maridb, which version are you looking at?11:54
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fboapevec, jschlueter We have a patch for the mail Github fetching issue. That's should come with next update of SF 2.2.1. But if you prefer and as it is safe to apply, we can apply it directly on review.rdo then restart apache. Let's me know if you prefer I apply the patch now ?12:21
apevecfbo, I'd prefer to apply the patch12:21
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apevecthat would also test it in real env12:21
fboapevec, yep and I already applied it on So let's do that.12:22
jschlueterfbo: cool glad to hear you have a fix to improve things12:22
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apevecfbo, would the fix apply only for new registrations or will it also sync emails for existing accounts?12:24
tristanCso turns out the github api randomly return primary mail address or null on authorize request response... cauth will now explicitly call the user/emails github apiv3 to collect correct mail12:24
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chandankumarapevec, do we added the comments on EOL bugs?12:24
apevecchandankumar, I did not script that, sorry - let's come up with the EOL comment today12:25
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fboapevec, only new registrations. I checked this morning we have some modification made by mhu that will land in 2.2.1 so after the upgrade a sync will happen between github and SF for the mails12:25
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hrwapevec: 10.1.12-4.el712:28
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fboapevec, Ok the change has been applied. I tested with my test github user and it has worked as expected. primary email, ssh key fetched and configured in Gerrit.12:41
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rbowenchandankumar: Do we have that EOL comment in an etherpad somewhere, or something?12:46
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rbowenchandankumar: When I've done that before I usually say "This bug is against an EOL'ed version. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a supported version."12:46
rbowenDo we need to say more than that?12:46
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rbowenleanderthal: I saw one of these - - in Vancouver last week and thought of you. :-)12:47
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chandankumarrbowen, apevec
chandankumarsomething like that12:53
rbowenOk, that's more verbose. :-)12:53
rbowenAre we going to do this with a script, or manually?12:54
apevecthat's too verbose12:54
apevecI like rbowen's one-liner better12:54
rbowenThat's what I use when I close questions on for EOL-ness.12:54
hrwapevec: the problem with galera is that it depends on 25.x version while mariadb is 10.x12:54
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chandankumarrbowen, script would be a better one.12:56
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rbowenok, I won't waste time doing this manually, then.12:57
jschlueterfbo: one thing I found today looking at the confirmation email is that it was delayed by mail system12:58
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jschlueterfbo: there was an issue with trying to use
jschlueterInternal Server Error13:01
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chandankumar[Reminder] Please update your RDO meeting agenda on
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fbojschlueter, yes it has been grey listed. This what I suspected, but the situation should improve when more and more mails will come from I guess13:13
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dtantsurhi folks, how do I see buildlogs in DLRN-rpmbuild? e.g. in
fbojschlueter, Yeah we know this issue about pastie, usually if you try to paste again it will work. But I'll bump this issue in our bug tracker to fix it soon.13:15
jschlueterfbo: yea big issue if you can't reliably use pastie13:16
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jschlueterfbo: have you guys seen ... useful when trying to share output from cli commands with someone13:17
jschlueterfbo: if I can use a pastebin type url every time and make sure it goes through then I normally will avoid it13:18
trowndtantsur: I was asking about that yesterday... I think the logs are not being archived atm13:18
trownfbo: tristanC, how hard would that be to setup? (archiving logs from DLRN CI)13:18
leanderthalrbowen, AWESOME13:18
hrwapevec: I 'solved' it by bumping galera to 25.3.12-2.el713:18
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apevechrw, that's the version Haikel has built in CBS but it was untagged, iirc it caused regression somewhere13:20
apevecwill check w/ him next week13:20
tristanCtrown: it should be trivial, we need to activate the swift param for dlrn job, then hopefully artifacts should be exported13:20
hrwapevec: I can provide patch which will add aarch64 to 25.3.5-6.el7 one13:21
tristanClet me propose the change13:21
trowntristanC: awesome thanks!13:21
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hrwapevec: it there are chances to get it merged13:21
fbojschlueter, I wasn't aware of the termbin ! nice ! I'll definitely push to have that fix at the next planning13:22
apevechrw, email it to me, and I'll check w/ Haikel when he's back13:23
jschlueterI've used termbin before and it's pretty nice, as nc is available on most systems13:23
trowndtantsur: wrt your comment about ironic owning tftp configuration... is there a case where inspector would be installed on a different machine than ironic?13:24
apevecjschlueter, there's also
hrwapevec: email?13:25
trowndtantsur: actually just saw slagle suggestion... I like that13:25
dtantsurtrown, it's not something insane.. I'm also worried about non-openstack packages doing the same thing13:25
dtantsurbut ok, at least ironic-inspector is in theory independent (not sure if puppet-ironic supports that, but still)13:26
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jschlueterapevec: cool I'll add it to my list13:29
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akshai have a straight forward question. how do i change network type from vxlan to vlan? which configuration files? (RDO-mitaka)13:37
jschwarzhey guys13:37
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jschwarzI'm trying to contribute to openstack/neutron-distgit as per
jschwarzUnfortunately, rdopkg clone fails with: "Package not found in rdoinfo: openstack/neutron-distgit"13:37
jschwarzany advises? :<13:38
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jlibosvajschwarz: lemme try, I'm fighting now with runnign dlrn13:40
jschwarzjlibosva, in you I trust13:41
tristanChum, so i found another bug in gerritbot where i don't have 'name' set and notification didn't went through...13:41
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tristanCtrown: the proposal is
jlibosvajschwarz: rdopkg clone openstack-neutron13:42
jlibosvaworks for me13:42
jschwarzjlibosva, Package not found in rdoinfo: openstack/neutron13:42
jschwarzah surry13:42
jlibosvadash dash dash13:42
hrwapevec: is all what is needed. I adapted 25.3.8->25.3.9 change from Fedora and kept original author in %changelog13:42
jschwarzjlibosva, looks like it pulled the right stuff13:43
jlibosvajschwarz: it works indeed when you pass correct parameters ;)13:43
jschwarzjlibosva, :<13:44
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rdogerritJohn Schwarz created openstack/neutron-distgit: [neutron] Add missing dependencies
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trownapevec: odd packaging question for you... If we make a subpackage for Ironic that sets up TFTP/iPXE is it ok to "Obsoletes" tftp-server package?13:51
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trownapevec:  nevermind that wont even work13:54
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rdogerritJohn Schwarz proposed openstack/neutron-distgit: [neutron] Add missing dependencies
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trowndtantsur: do the undionly.kpxe and pxelinux.0 files need to be ironic owned?14:04
dtantsurtrown, not necessary. the must be readable by the tftp server14:04
dtantsurtrown, the pxelinux.cfg is important though, Ironic places stuff here when tftp is used14:05
* dtantsur does not remember what's used with ipxe14:05
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trowndtantsur: ok, I will leave things as is for now then, and just make sure the openstack-ironic-tftp package creates an ironic user/group as well if it doesnt exist14:06
trownso it is usable without ironic-common14:06
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number80that doesn't work14:12
number80ironic user home is in -common14:13
number80just split out a new subpackage -common-user with it and give it scriptlets14:13
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rdogerrittrown proposed openstack/ironic-distgit: Do TFTP/iPXE setup in packaging
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rdogerritJason Joyce created openstack/heat-distgit: Removing python-qpid as a Requires from the common subpackage.
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rdogerritMerged config: DLRN: set swift param and try to fix publisher execution
apeveclogs, we'll have logs!14:40
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jpenaimcsk8: I'm trying to remember, Packstack configuring Cinder does not work fine with Keystone v3. Is that a Cinder limitation?14:46
jpenare. bug 1330289 in openstack-packstack "Failure to install Controller/Network&&Compute Cluster on RDO Mitaka with keystone API V3" [High,New] - Assigned to mmagr14:46
dmsimardapevec: we're *trying* to get logs :p14:46
rdogerritDavid Moreau Simard created DLRN: Test dlrn-rpmbuild job
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imcsk8jpena: i think so14:52
imcsk8i remember looking into that, let me check14:52
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jpenameeting in 5 mins!14:55
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imcsk8jpena: i rememeber i wrote the release note but i don't remember what was the cinder problem14:57
tristanCdmsimard: hum, so there is something wrong, the publisher isn't executed14:58
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dmsimardtristanC: thanks for your help14:59
tristanCthe zuul-swift-upload should either print an error, or print the container url where artifacts are uploaded14:59
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/neutron-distgit: Cleanup i18n
jpenameeting time!15:00
jpena#startmeeting RDO meeting (2016-05-18)15:00
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jpena#topic roll call15:00
dmsimardoh no15:00
jruzickaoh yeah15:01
leifmadsen:kool-aid man:15:01
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dmsimardlet's see if that helps15:01
jpena#chair imcsk8 dmsimard jruzicka15:01
zodbotCurrent chairs: dmsimard imcsk8 jpena jruzicka15:01
dmsimardI don't want to ban him again15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: dmsimard imcsk8 jpena jruzicka15:01
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jpena#chair leifmadsen gkadam15:02
zodbotCurrent chairs: dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:02
dmsimardyes! openstack bot muted15:02
apevecbot fight!15:02
jpenayep, it worked :)15:02
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jpena#chair apevec15:02
zodbotCurrent chairs: apevec dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: apevec dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:02
dmsimardthat openstack-infra patch still hasn't landed, I see :p15:03
jpenachandankumar, amoralej: you around?15:03
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jpena#chair amoralej15:03
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:03
apevecdmsimard, patch to disable meetbot part of openstack bot?15:03
dmsimardapevec: patch to make it only trigger on #openstack-meeting.* channels15:03
apevecah so it wasn't just us15:04
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chandankumarjpena, \o/15:04
* dmsimard nods15:04
jpena#chair chandankumar15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen15:04
tristanCdmsimard: that should work:
jpenathe agenda today is quite short :)15:04
dmsimardtristanC: oh no15:04
dmsimardtristanC: !15:04
tristanCalways fun to fix thing with a single character :)15:05
jpena#chair rbowen15:05
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen15:05
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen15:05
rdogerritMerged config: DLNR: fix publishers typo missing an 's'
jpena#topic Comment for EOL Bugs15:05
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jpenachandankumar, the stage is yours15:05
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chandankumarrbowen, has suggested comment "This bug is against an EOL'ed version. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a supported version."" on EOL bugs15:05
chandankumarwhich is sweet and simple15:06
rbowenThat's what I use when I close questions on ask.openstack for EOL. Seems sufficient.15:06
apevec+1 maybe we just need to define EOL ?15:06
jpenarbowen: is that Juno and earlier, or should we include Kilo?15:06
rbowenEOL is defined upstream, right?15:06
jpena#chair trown15:06
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:06
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:06
apevecjpena, yes, include Kilo15:06
apevecwe'll push last update then move it to vault.centos.org15:07
rbowenRight. That. :-)15:07
rbowenThat says Kilo is EOL on May 2.15:07
jpenagood. chandankumar, I see an item in the agenda about a "script to close EOL Bugs". Does it exist?15:08
chandankumarjpena, nope15:08
chandankumarjpena, i will create it tonight15:08
chandankumarif someone has please share.15:08
chandankumarmisc, ^^15:08
imcsk8chandankumar: i can help i've done some bugzilla API scripts15:08
chandankumarimcsk8, sure15:09
apevecok, I updated 1liner to: "This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version."15:09
apevecrbowen, ^ is that still proper English?15:09
dmsimardapevec: should we include teh link ?15:09
rbowenYes, that looks fine.15:09
apevecdmsimard, good idea15:09
chandankumar#action chandankumar to share EOL script with imcsk8 and others for review.15:09
rbowendmsimard: +115:10
apevec"This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version:"15:10
chandankumar#info EOL message "This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version"15:10
imcsk8chandankumar: should launchpad bugs be addressed too?15:10
zodbotRemoving item from minutes: INFO by chandankumar at 15:10:37 : EOL message "This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version"15:10
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chandankumarimcsk8, nope15:10
apeveclet's see some +1 :)15:10
dmsimardapevec: your message lgtm15:11
apevec#info EOL message for RDO bugzillas "This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version:"15:11
leifmadsen"This bug is against a version which has reached End of Life [link to EOL data]. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version."15:11
apevecleifmadsen, that's too complicated :)15:11
chandankumar#chair leifmadsen15:11
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:11
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:11
leifmadsenapevec: ok, then just add the "which has reached" part :)  (add word 'has')15:12
apevecand it changes from release (it's post on openstack-dev)15:12
zodbotRemoving item from minutes: INFO by apevec at 15:11:27 : EOL message for RDO bugzillas "This bug is against a version which reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version:"15:12
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apevec#info EOL message for RDO bugzillas "This bug is against a version which has reached End of Life. Please reopen if it is still relevant with a latest version:"15:12
apevecis it perfect now? :)15:12
leifmadsenit is acceptable, that's as far as I will go :D15:12
imcsk8like shakespeare!15:12
gkadamchandankumar, how do i check if the bug is still relevant . i found this bug it is for Juno. no comments yet. should i close ? bug 1180201 in openstack-neutron "neutron-netns-cleanup.service needs RemainAfterExit=yes and PrivateTmp=false" [Low,New] - Assigned to lpeer15:13
chandankumargkadam, meeting is going on.15:13
apevecimcsk8, not quite :)15:13
jpenanext topic?15:14
jruzicka"if it's" > "if it is" :-p15:14
imcsk8hehehe, apevec i lacks drama but we're engineers so there's no problem :P15:14
rdogerrittrown proposed openstack/ironic-distgit: Do TFTP/iPXE setup in packaging
chandankumar#chair gkadam15:14
zodbotCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:14
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard gkadam imcsk8 jpena jruzicka leifmadsen rbowen trown15:14
jpena#topic move rdostats project under RDO15:15
rdogerrittrown proposed openstack/ironic-distgit: Do TFTP/iPXE setup in packaging
chandankumarSo we are using rdostats to generate Weekly RDO bug stats15:15
chandankumarcan we move this under rdo projects?15:15
apevecwould it fit in rdo-infra ?15:15
chandankumarlarsks, ^^15:16
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chandankumarapevec, yes, will work for me, but needs other's input.15:16
apevecif so, I'd ask larsks to move it15:16
dmsimardtristanC: swift working15:16
jpenait looks like something we could have under rdo-infra, yep15:16
dmsimardtristanC: but http returning 40415:17
jpenachandankumar: are you running it manually, or automated in some VM?15:17
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chandankumarjpena, it is just a two line of shell script15:17
chandankumarmanually i would say15:17
apevecI've added larsks as an owner in rdo-infra so he can move the repo15:18
dmsimardapevec: +115:18
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jpenaso should we add an action to larsks?15:19
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apevecof course, he's not paying attention :)15:19
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jpena#action larks to migrate to rdo-infra15:20
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jpena#action larsks to migrate to rdo-infra15:20
dmsimardlet's ask him nicely first? :)15:20
apevecdmsimard, that is nicely, via action item :)15:20
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jpenasilence is acknowledgment, they say in Spain :)15:21
miscchandankumar: mhh ?15:21
apevec#action larsks to be asked nicely to migrate to rdo-infra15:21
dmsimardapevec: hah15:21
trownhe has an action to ask himself nicely?15:21
chandankumarmisc, do you have bz script to close EOL bugs?15:21
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jpenaso we're done with this topic, let's go to the next one15:22
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jpena#topic Hangouts - speakers wanted15:22
rbowenBefore and during summit, I did some awesome interviews with some of you. Many thanks to all that participated.15:22
rbowenI need a volunteer for some time in May.15:22
rbowenSomeone who wants to talk about what exciting things they're doing for Newton.15:23
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rbowenPreferably someone that I haven't already done an interview with in the last few months.15:23
chandankumardmsimard, zodbot is not listening in #rdo channel15:23
imcsk8i was about to step up but i've already been interviewed15:23
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rbowenTime investment on your part is roughly 20-30 minutes, plus whatever time you need to prepare.15:23
rbowenI'll ask on list, but wanted to give folks here an opportunity first.15:24
rdogerrittrown proposed openstack/ironic-distgit: Do TFTP/iPXE setup in packaging
tristanCdmsimard: I'm investigating the swift 404, it's weird because the files are in the container but in another path15:24
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rbowenOk, so if there's no immediate volunteers, I'm done with this topic. :-)15:24
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jpena#topic DLRN instance migration to ci.centos infra (reloaded)15:25
dmsimardoh hai15:25
miscchandankumar: nope15:25
dmsimardit turns out it's pretty hard to delete things from the buildlogs cdn15:25
dmsimardbut KB is working on it15:25
dmsimardto remove kilo and the trunk repos15:25
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jpenadmsimard: what about the promotion job? I remember from last week that trown figured out a way to run them, but there was still something missing (I can't remember what)15:26
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dmsimardthe script in tripleo ci needs to be adapted to use the new promotion job instead of doing it iself15:27
dmsimardI believe trown already spoke to derekh15:27
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dmsimardI'm pretty sure this is the last outstanding item unless I am mistaken15:28
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dmsimardwe will need to coordinate the cutover15:28
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jpenaok, so we'll wait until the tripleo ci script is adapted, then coordinate the change15:28
dmsimardthe RDO promotion jobs use as promotion target15:28
trowndmsimard: jpena, ya I spoke with derekh about it yesterday, and will submit a patch to tripleoci to switch the method15:28
dmsimardso that will be transparent once we change the dns to the internal IP15:28
apeveclet's keep this topic for the next week unless it gets done in the meantime15:29
dmsimardwe should agree on a cutoff date once the script is in review for tripleoci and tested15:29
trown#action trown submit patch to tripleoci to change repo promotion method15:29
dmsimardI guess I will setup a ssh key from rhos-ci on the jenkins slave to the dlrn instsance15:30
dmsimardtrown: or did you already do that ?15:30
tristanCdmsimard: the swift container was missing "post -m 'web-listings: true'", ci links works good now15:30
trowndmsimard: no I didnt do that15:30
dmsimardtrown: ok, I'll set it up.15:30
tristanCtrown: DLNR-rpmbuild repo artifacts are now published to swift, you can find the repo url at the bottom of console-log15:31
jpenaok, so we're done with this15:31
jpena#topic chair for next meeting15:31
imcsk8i can do it15:31
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dmsimard#action dmsimard to set up ssh authentication between the slave and dlrn instance15:31
dmsimard#topic chair for next meeting15:31
jpena#action imcsk8 to chair next meeting15:32
trowntristanC++ thanks!15:32
jpenathanks imcsk8 for volunteering ;)15:32
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jpena#topic open floor15:32
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jpenaanything else to share?15:32
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apevecjust to remind, it's Bug Triage today/tomorrow15:33
apevecgoal is to check all NEW bzs15:33
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tristanCtrown: you're welcome, next we need to thing about artifact time-to-live (TTL), we could set it to something like 6 months... it's the --delete-after parameter of the upload tool15:33
chandankumarrbowen, can you set the topic for RDO bug triage day/15:33
chandankumar*channel topic15:34
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trowntristanC: ya 6 months would be plenty... could maybe even go lower 3months?15:34
apevectristanC, how big is swift storage  ?15:34
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chandankumarrbowen, Thanks :-)15:34
imcsk8apevec: we can triage any component right?15:34
dmsimardapevec: it'd be great to have a mitaka version in bz.15:35
apevecimcsk8, yes, cross-pollination explicitly encouraged :)15:35
apevecdmsimard, oh yes, I slacked on that bz request15:35
imcsk8apevec: cool!15:35
tristanCapevec: it's currently using a temporary swift all in one (saio) installation which has 200GB avail, but there is a new bare-metal swift deployed with 1.5TB that we could use15:35
apevec#action apevec to send bz request to update RDO versions in bz15:35
tristanCapevec: and finally, zuul swift configuration is modular, you can set the target container per job, so repository artifacts could be offloaded somewhere else too15:36
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apevectristanC, good, we could maybe get resource donnors15:37
tristanCand ftr, swift endpoint are configured with sfconfig.yaml (need shell access), but then container setting per jobs is set in config-repo, like I did here:
apeveccool, thanks for the pointers15:38
tristanCapevec: your welcome, I'm glad it was just a missing setting to get publication working :)15:38
apevecso "artifacts" is endpoint defined in sfconfig.yaml ?15:38
apevectristanC, make sure that all ends up in SF docs :)15:39
jpenashould we end now?15:39
chandankumarjpena, yes if nothing more to discuss.15:40
tristanCapevec: oh, well there is only the default swift_logsexport_container currently supported in sfconfig.yaml, we'll have to support a list... not very hard though15:40
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tristanCapevec: and yes, 'artifacts' is the name of the endpoint defined in sfconfig, and it happen to also be the name of the directory to be published15:41
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jpenathank you all!15:41
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amoralejthanks jpena15:42
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chandankumarjpena, Thank you for chairing the meeting. :-)15:42
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gkadamjpena, thank you ! :-)15:42
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imcsk8jpena: thanks!15:46
gkadamhello, i am working on RDO bug triage . I have found most of the bugs in neutron are for Juno and Kilo. so as discussed shall i comment and change the status of BZ ? Please help , what should i do?15:47
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apevecgkadam, as discussed on the meeting, we'll close all those with EOL message15:49
apevecchandankumar will propose a script15:50
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created openstack/cloudkitty-distgit: Added api_paste.ini
apevecbut thinking about it, is Version: field reliable?15:51
apevecwhat's the default value?15:51
apevecok, it's "trunk"15:52
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apevecso if it is set to explicit version we can assume it's manually set15:52
gkadamapevec, just for confirmation please check, its priority is low and its Juno shall i close this bug with EOL message ?15:52 bug 1180201 in openstack-neutron "neutron-netns-cleanup.service needs RemainAfterExit=yes and PrivateTmp=false" [Low,New] - Assigned to lpeer15:52
chandankumargkadam, check this one bug 1116972 in distribution "RDO website: libffi-devel is required to run Tempest (at least on CentOS 6.5)" [Unspecified,Closed: eol] - Assigned to rbowen15:53
chandankumargkadam, if you are closing manually feel free to set resolution EOL.15:54
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gkadamchandankumar, ack15:54
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apevecgkadam, re. bz 1180201 - check w/ ajo - note that Target Release is Juno but you should look at Version15:58
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apevecajo_, ^ I guess you already fixed that in rpm-master so it can be closed->currentrelease ?15:59
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jruzickaI'm so rusty with packaging... I blame number80.16:11
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* jruzicka consults master packaging guide16:12
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apevecjruzicka, yes, unrust yourself :)16:29
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jpenachandankumar: do you have any info about ?16:30 bug 1316222 in openstack-packstack "Packstack installation failed due to wrong http config" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to mmagr16:30
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jpenathat must be fixed for sure, but I'm curious why we didn't see that16:30
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chandankumarjpena, it is not me16:32
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jpenaoops :o)16:32
chandankumarjpena, chandan kumar is a very common name in india.16:32
jpenachandankumar: ok, good to know. thx!16:33
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dmsimardso is Karan Singh16:35
dmsimardI think I know 3 Karan Singh :p16:35
kbsinghhow many Karanbir Singh's do you know ?16:36
dmsimardkbsingh: I actually met another Karan Singh I know in Tokyo and I mistook him for you, true story16:36
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kbsinghhopefully, that person wasent offended!16:37
dmsimardJust noticed you're Karanbir though.16:37
dmsimardNo, we know each other, he just joined Red Hat actually16:37
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kbsinghwe should setup a cabal of K Singh's16:37
misca kabal16:37
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miscthe Karanbir Desktop Environement ?16:38
chandankumarmisc, KDE?16:38
dmsimardmisc: I learned the other day was CentOS stood for :)16:39
kbsinghCommunity Entertainment OS16:39
kbsinghright ? right ?16:39
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jjoyceapevec: I have a jekins failure with a spec file change for heat. Any easy way to track that down.16:58
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number80jjoyce: recheck17:02
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jjoycenumber80: how do I recheck?17:08
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jjoycenumber80: This is what I am working on
EmilienMjjoyce: drop a comment in Gerrit "recheck"17:09
jjoyceEmilienM number80: Thanks, will do17:09
EmilienMnumber80: recheck PTO17:10
jjoyceEmilienM number80: Is there a way for me to see the error?17:11
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number80EmilienM: I've never been good with idle time17:12
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number80jjoyce: you may toggle CI comments and just follow the result link17:12
number80it's a mirror issue in your case17:12
jjoycenumber80: OK, I will see if I can follow through. Thanks for for the help.17:13
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chandankumarapevec, what would be the resolution for closing a let's say "Juno" EOL Bugs?17:16
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chandankumarnumber80, ^^17:18
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chandankumaravailable resoltions are ['NOTABUG', 'WONTFIX', 'DEFERRED', 'WORKSFORME', 'CURRENTRELEASE',17:19
chandankumar 'CANTFIX', 'INSUFFICIENT_DATA']17:19
number80chandankumar: depends my humor of the time, now, it'd be WONTFIX :) #I'm joking, don't use it17:20
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chandankumarnumber80, haha17:20
jpenachandankumar: I think there's an EOL resolution, at least I've used it today17:20
number80context will help, if it's still present in newer release, it has to be retargetted to trunk for instance17:21
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chandankumarjpena|off, bug 1148526 in openstack-nova "nova: fail to edit project quota with DataError from nova" [High,New] - Assigned to eglynn17:23
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chandankumarapevec, number80 imcsk8 jruzicka EOL script
chandankumarfeedbacks are welcome17:52
chandankumardmsimard, ^^17:53
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apevecchandankumar, what is partner-bugzilla ?18:03
chandankumarapevec, it is a test instance of bugzilla18:03
chandankumarapevec, you can use real one to test.18:04
jruzickanice to know18:04
apevecah so you can mess with partner-bugzilla and it won't affect production bz18:04
apevecre. "if it's still present in newer release, it has to be retargetted to trunk for instance" we explicitly don't won't spend time doing that, instead EOL notice should encourage reporter to do it18:05
apevecthe only way to win this game is to _distribute_ the workload18:05
jruzickalol I was thinking if that is worth pointing out18:05
jruzickayes explicitly say to change release to one that is affected AND supported18:05
chandankumarapevec, yes18:05
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jruzickaCan't think of a way to clearly formulate that :)18:07
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chandankumarimcsk8, jruzicka, apevec please add the comments on gist for further changes :-)18:09
jruzickawe're iterating in semi-real time :-p18:09
jruzickaIf it's still present in supported release (, please reopen and update $FIELD.18:10
apevecFIELD= Version18:10
jruzickaI'm gonna put that in da gist18:10
apevec Version18:11
apevecThis field is used to denote the version of the product that the problem is found in. I18:11
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chandankumari am logging out. see you tomorrow.18:20
chandankumarapevec, rbowen dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka Good Night :-)18:20
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jschlueterjruzicka: jayg observed that rdopkg isn't behaving as expected for "rdopkg new-version " did we lose a step that was in there before?18:26
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apevecjschlueter, jayg - what's expected/actual result? Have you filed it in ?18:39
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apevecjruzicka, btw which issue# is for syncing distgit branches? can't find it...or I'm blind18:39
apevecor is it part of ??18:40
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jruzickajschlueter, possible, rpmfactory workflow support could break many things.18:41
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jruzickajschlueter, reproducer pls?18:41
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apevecjruzicka,  just say "issue# or it didn't happen" :)18:42
jruzickaapevec, nice one... saving for later reference ;)18:42
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jruzickajayg, I'm interested in rdopkg being naughty on new-version once you are free to type ;)18:44
jschlueterapevec: prior behavior "rhpkg new-sources <new tarball>"18:46
apevecjschlueter, there's now option18:46
apevecit's not default anymore, there isn't lookaside cache in CBS18:46
apevec -N, --new-sources     also run `fedpkg new-sources`18:47
jschlueterapevec, jruzicka: that would be nice information to know for people as there is existing knowledge usage of rdopkg that expect behavior ... I did ask about possible impact for downstream (RH-OSP) usage of rdopkg when I heard about the changes18:48
apevecjruzicka, ^ it runs rhpkg on osp branch?18:48
apevecjruzicka, could you make -N default when on osp branch?18:48
apevecjschlueter, that's what we're discovering now, by using it18:49
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* jayg off phone, reading back now...18:50
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jaygjruzicka: ok, it looks like I would need to add -N, I did not need it for osp previously, this is how I have always run it:18:54
jaygrdopkg new-version <tag-from-RDO> -p rhos-patches/rhos-8.0-rhel-7-patches18:54
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jruzickaapevec, oh maaan, lots of rdopkg bugs and I'm knee deep in packaging and docs... oh noes :)18:56
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jruzickajayg, it wasn't needed previously18:57
jaygyeah, I am trying with -N now and I see it uploading18:58
jruzickajayg, but with dlrn and rpmfactory, `$RPKG new-sources` was more often not used, so I made it explicit18:58
jschlueterjruzicka: and that bit people who expected and relied on the old behavior18:59
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jruzickardopkg is alpha developer tool, this autodetection was failing horribly :)19:00
jruzickajayg, jschlueter if you find out a way to detect cases where fedpkg new-sources should be run without throwing false positives, I'm all ear19:00
jruzickaI was looking for sources file and later even checking it's non-empty19:00
jruzickastill misstrigerring19:01
jschlueterjruzicka: ack19:02
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* jschlueter mis-understood development level of rdopkg then19:02
jruzickadon't get me wrong. With every change I try to not break things when I don't have to19:03
jruzickabut if something sucks, I WILL rewrite it :)19:03
apevecjruzicka, you can assume new-sources on osp branch19:03
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jschlueterjruzicka: ack, as expected19:04
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jruzickaonce I get to rdopkg, I'll annihilate old code and split into modules. I plan that to be last brutal disturbance and transition from dev tool to production tool19:06
jruzickaD-D-D-DROP THE CODE19:06
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jruzickajayg, jschlueter if branch.startswith('rhos-') or branch.startswith('rh-'):19:10
jruzickais that correct detection of RHOSP branches?19:10
jaygI think so, the ones I know start with rhos-19:10
jschlueterjruzicka: rhos- would be fine19:10
jaygI am updating my steps to include -N anywa for safety19:10
jaygI prefer to be explicit if I know it could be an issue19:11
jruzickaOK, I'll make a hotfix release ASAP with that so you don't have type -N every time ^^19:12
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dmsimardapevec: random thought but I figured out how to fix my non-stop crashing issues for my laptop19:21
dmsimardwell, not a fix but prevent19:21
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dmsimardneeded to add --disable-gpu to the chrome shortcut19:21
dmsimardthis way my chrome is slow to render as hell but at least it doesn't crash my whole laptop T_T19:21
dmsimardfirefox behaves similarly19:22
dmsimardsurely has to do with that optimus junk between the intel gpu and the nvidia card.. but from what I've read, you can't turn off either gpu in the bios for the w541's, they're like hooked together19:22
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apevecdmsimard, is that just w/ chrome?19:26
apevecah you say firefox too19:26
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EmilienMapevec, jayg: about puppet stable release, I think we'll release a new mitaka in 2 weeks and probably a liberty19:39
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jaygEmilienM: ok, I am trying to reconcile workflow between upstream/rdo/osp, we can discuss more tomorrow19:48
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EmilienMjayg: it's ok if we release downstream19:59
EmilienMwithout upstream19:59
EmilienMjayg: the most important is to keep updated in term of code, imho19:59
EmilienMjayg: as long as our patches are backported upstream, they pass CI, we can release them downstream (I don't think there is a risk)19:59
EmilienMapevec, dmsimard: do we have good progress on newton deps repo?20:00
dmsimardEmilienM: I'll try and ping the centos guys to see if they've taken care of it yet20:00
EmilienMour CI is really really unstable20:01
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dmsimardlooks like they closed the bug today
dmsimardapevec: ^ we should have the tags noiw20:01
imcsk8apevec: can you see this link?
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jaygEmilienM: I am with you, but we need to figure out some details, maybe we can talk when I get online tomorrow20:25
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pabelangerdmsimard: okay, you should be able to remove your locales workarounds. New DIBs have been uploaded20:39
dmsimardpabelanger: trying now20:39
fcamiapevec, dmsimard, EmilienM - quick Ceph Jewel status: all build dependencies are tagged storage7-ceph-jewel-testing in cbs, but the aarch64 buildroot cannot build Ceph. Evolution and alphacc have been looking into it.20:39
fcamiI don't have any aarch64 hw nor access to the cbs/koji infra so I can't do anything more.20:40
pabelangerdmsimard: there is also an epel mirror now: not sure you use it20:40
pabelangerbut already configured20:40
dmsimardpabelanger: we avoid epel like the plague20:40
pabelangerGoing to see which RDO repos are used my openstack jobs and setup some mirrors of that too20:41
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack/packstack: Remove workaround for openstack gate locales
EmilienMI don't think we need aarch6420:42
EmilienMfcami: so we can start testing on x86?20:42
dmsimardpabelanger: RDO should already be included in CentOS repos20:42
dmsimardwell, in the mirrors, not repos, sorry20:43
EmilienMfcami: can I download centos-release-ceph-jewel rpm on centos?20:43
fcamiEmilienM: that won't work until the repository itself is done and that's out of my control too.20:43
EmilienMfcami: ok20:43
EmilienMfcami: you helped a lot already20:44
dmsimardfcami: oh, cool, thanks for the update20:44
EmilienMfcami: how can I know when repo is up? anything I can monitor?20:44
pabelangerdmsimard: if it is cloud repo, we mirror it20:44
dmsimardpabelanger: yeah, that's it for stable releases20:44
fcamiEmilienM: re test x86_64-only: I could build Ceph this way, but then I would have to ask alphacc to scratch-build aarch64 when possible to attach it to the build (painful) -or- rebuild after NVR++20:44
dmsimardFor trunk (i.e, newton) we will soon mirror it on buildlogs20:44
dmsimardpabelanger: which will eventually make it's way to the mirrors20:45
fcamiEmilienM: the ticket you mentioned, and the repository will appear at
EmilienMfcami: I don't know what's best, but I would like to test Jewel ASAP in RDO & TripleO, and in our products20:45
fcamidmsimard thanks20:45
EmilienMfcami: ok I'll stop pinging you then20:45
fcamiEmilienM: you could do something manual20:46
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fcamiEmilienM: you can download all the dependencies tagged -testing in cbs, then download the ceph scratch build I can produce for you20:46
dmsimardpabelanger: oh, wait, I don't think it'll be replicated to the mirrors. I need to ask.20:46
fcamiif that helps20:46
EmilienMfcami: I don't want to overload your work20:47
EmilienMif you can do it, I'm happy to test it and give early feedback20:47
fcamiEmilienM: that's about 10 seconds of my time, really. :)20:47
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fcamiEmilienM: can you host a repo somewhere? 1/ download all the builds from  2/ run createrepo20:48
fcamiEmilienM: then, the Ceph scratch-build:   in about 90 minutes20:49
EmilienMfcami: ok I'll look what can we do20:50
EmilienMfcami: but how long do you think we need to wait for the repo on ?20:50
EmilienMfcami: days? weeks?20:50
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EmilienManyway, I'll find workaround to test your build! thanks again20:52
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dmsimardpabelanger: got confirmation: only stable releases of RDO end up being replicated to the mirrors. Trunk repos will stay on buildlogs.20:54
pabelangerdmsimard: okay, I don't think we'll mirror buildlogs20:55
pabelangerdepends on the stability of it20:55
dmsimardIt's served out of a CDN, should be fine20:56
dmsimardWe're moving trunk there to address reliability issues with trunk repos :)20:56
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fcamiEmilienM: officially no idea really.20:58
EmilienMno problem!20:58
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EmilienMimcsk8, apevec: do you know what would it take to upgrade Hiera in centos7 ? cc gfidente21:01
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imcsk8EmilienM: puppet depends on hiera, i guess this should be changed in the puppet package21:03
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EmilienMimcsk8: we need hiera >= 2 in tripleo, to do some cool stuffs21:04
gfidentecause tripleo is all the coolness21:04
gfidentein case you didn't know guys21:04
imcsk8coolness is relative21:05
gfidenteok but the actual hiera feature is useful21:05
gfidentewhat EmilienM said :)21:05
imcsk8EmilienM: you shuld ask the guy that packages puppet (i'm not shure who he is)21:05
EmilienMtripleo is hipe, we need hiera 221:05
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imcsk8EmilienM: create a bug to start discussion21:06
EmilienMimcsk8: in which project?21:07
dmsimardEmilienM: last time hiera was upgraded inadvertedly through EPEL, it broke all the things21:07
dmsimardall of them.21:07
EmilienMlol we just want to use hiera to get a value from a specific key in a hash21:07
gfidentedmsimard, hey I saw it went to 3.01 for a bit indeed21:07
dmsimardI went to #epel and wasn't happy21:07
EmilienMdmsimard: I trust you for that LOL21:07
gfidentebut was it a broken build or was it really just the newer version causing all that?21:07
dmsimardgfidente: a CERN maintainer bumped two major releases21:08
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dmsimardI don't think backwards compat is expected between three major releases21:08
gfidentedmanchad, yeah I saw that in the changelog and then moved it back21:08
gfidenteok so we might get lucky and move to some 2.x21:08
number80hiera 2.0 is more reasonable than facter321:08
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dmsimard2.x might be fine, dunno21:08
gfidentewithout too much troubles?21:08
EmilienMyeah facter 3 is another story21:09
* gfidente is happy enough with 2.x!21:09
EmilienMhiera 2.x should be smooth21:09
EmilienMyeah even an alpha or 2 lol21:09
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number80I'd hate you if you require facter3 on EL7 though :)21:10
dmsimardwhat's special about facter 3 ?21:11
gfidenteimcsk8, EmilienM so should that be a BZ against hiera component?21:11
imcsk8EmilienM: community -> Product: RDO -> Component: distribution21:11
imcsk8didn't find the puppet component on RDO21:11
imcsk8that should start the discussion21:12
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EmilienMdmsimard: facts are in C instead of ruby, afik21:12
EmilienMgfidente: you want to create BZ or me to do it?21:12
gfidenteEmilienM, same21:13
EmilienMgfidente: ok I'm doing it21:14
EmilienMin italian21:14
gfidenteI'm working on the tht change so it's fine if you file it21:14
gfidentetotally yes21:14
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gfidentejust to make sure we don't get it updated21:14
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rdogerritJakub Ruzicka created rdopkg: Reintroduce new-sources autodetection for RHOSP
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EmilienMgfidente, imcsk8: bug 1337335 in openstack-puppet-modules "Hiera 2.x packaging" [Urgent,Assigned] - Assigned to emacchi21:23
EmilienMI created it in OPM21:23
EmilienMbut feel free to move it21:23
rdogerritJakub Ruzicka proposed rdopkg: Reintroduce new-sources autodetection for RHOSP
EmilienMimcsk8: in fact, I found Hiera pproject in BZ21:27
EmilienMsee bug 1337335 in hiera "Hiera 2.x packaging" [Urgent,New] - Assigned to mburns21:27
EmilienMdmsimard: latest openstack still broken21:28
EmilienMgot zaqar issues21:29
dmsimardthe fact that we are even able to deliver something stable every cycle despite it being broken all the time is an amazing achievement.21:30
EmilienMbut I'm close to have something that works21:32
EmilienMscenario001 failing for a reason I know and is tracked21:32
EmilienMand I think scenario003 is failing because of the wrong newton deps21:32
EmilienMthat's why we need it asap21:32
apevecEmilienM, only paramiko 2.0 or more ?21:36
EmilienMonly paramiko21:36
apevecrequests was also bumped in reqs master21:36
apevecEmilienM, I've for now21:36
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apevecnot ready on buildlogs yet, I'll chase that tomorrow21:36
EmilienMapevec: thx a lot21:37
apevecEmilienM, this is incomplete repo, can you add this on on top of mitaka ?21:37
apevecit's currently only paramiko and requests update:
EmilienMwith priorities?21:37
apevecEmilienM, not needed21:37
apevecit's higher NVRs21:37
apevecdo you have priorities in other repos?21:38
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apevecif yes, then you need same same or lower in this add-on21:38
apevecEmilienM, ok then you need prio 121:39
EmilienMapevec: and baseurl is ?21:40
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EmilienMlet's go for it21:41
apevecEmilienM, no21:41
apevecone up, where repodata is21:41
apevecEmilienM, gfidente - how did you guys pick  exactly hiear 2.x ?21:42
gfidenteapevec, was just commenting that in the BZ with a sample submission21:42
gfidentewe need which is available form 221:42
apevecah yes, best to keep conversation in bz21:42
apevecmburned, ^21:42
mburnedyep, i found the conversation21:43
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mburnedapevec: gfidente:  available from 2 means available in 321:43
mburned3 is easier to package21:43
mburnedbut apparently breaks openstack...21:43
apevecmburned, yes, but see my comment21:43
apevec3.x broke things21:43
EmilienMlet's iterate and do 2 maybe21:43
mburnedEmilienM: my concern with 2 -- it only lived for like 3 months21:44
mburnedMarch - June last year, then 3.0.1 was shipped21:44
mburnedthere was never a release in fedora of it21:44
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apevecyeah, eventually we should look why 3.x is breaking things21:45
EmilienMmburned: does Hiera 3 has hard deps, like puppet4 or facter 3 ?21:45
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EmilienMmaybe we can try 3 and kick off CI jobs (tripleo, OSP-d), etc21:45
EmilienMsee if it works21:45
apevecwe got that covered, 3.0.1 breaks21:45
mburnedEmilienM: afaict, it has no deps21:45
apevecit broke tripleo too21:46
mburnedapevec: the solution might be to fix the breakage it causes21:46
apevectrown has details21:46
apevecmburned, yep21:46
apevecbut looks it breaks general manifests bug 1286826 in hiera "hiera 1.3.4 removed from repo beaks packstack install of kilo on CentOS 7" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] - Assigned to steve.traylen21:47
apevecbut yeah, let's see what exactly breaks in packstack and 3o first21:48
apevecwith 3.x21:48
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mburnedapevec: maybe 3.0.1 was buggy and 3.1.2 is better?21:48
* mburned crosses fingres21:48
EmilienMor we can backport the feature (get the value from a specific key in an hash) from 2.x to 1.x21:48
EmilienMok I run.21:48
apevecalso an option21:48
EmilienMit was a joke.21:49
* apevec copy/paste all of above in bz21:49
EmilienMnot everything please21:49
apevecok :)21:49
dmsimardpabelanger: for my personal curiosity, why is dd being used for what seems to be appending text to a file in ?21:51
dmsimardhonestly the first time I see dd used for that, but with dd and netcat you can basically do anything so ..21:51
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gfidentedmsimard, out of my curiosity do you know if hiera 3.x is at least expected to be backward compatible?21:52
dmsimardgfidente: iirc the thing that broke everything was mostly the path changes21:53
dmsimardi.e, /etc/hiera.yaml instead of /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml ? Or something like that21:53
apevecmajor bump backward compat is not expected21:54
apevecbut for RDO, we could fix Packstack/TripleO21:54
dmsimardapevec: it's already fixed21:54
dmsimardi.e, for packstack21:54
dmsimardand there was something for tripleo as well21:54
apevecah cool21:54
dmsimardbut mostly we told people to use yum-plugin-priorities21:54
apevecor do not enable epel21:55
apevecmburned, gfidente, EmilienM - here are my notes: bug 1337335 in distribution "Hiera 2.x packaging" [Urgent,New] - Assigned to lars21:55
dmsimardthe problem is more around the user expectations as well, not just the installers21:55
apevecplease add more thoughts21:55
dmsimardwe yelled at EPEL because they bumped two major releases21:55
dmsimardsomeone upgrading from mitaka to newton would also bump two major releases21:55
dmsimardso while the installers would be backwards compatible, perhaps users would not be21:56
apevecdmsimard, hiera in RDO is not for general use-case, it is for RDO specific use-case21:56
dmsimardafaik the version of puppet and hiera in RDO has been the same for a very long time21:56
gfidentedmsimard, apevec in tripleo overcloud we do this fwiw /etc/hiera.yaml -> /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml21:56
apevecdmsimard, yes, but now we have a need to update it21:56
dmsimardapevec: and that's fine, just saying that if we do a fairly major bump in either or both, we need to manage user expectations and put it blinking red with dancing bananas21:57
pabelangerdmsimard: no special reason, likely personal preference from the first patch21:58
apevecagain, in RDO that implementation details, users shouldn't care less about version deps21:58
dmsimardIf I happen to be deploying with pure RDO + Puppet OpenStack, for example.. while tripleo and packstack may work, you'd break me (i.e, this is what I do with centos-cloud)21:58
apevecprovided we make it work of course ;)21:58
dmsimardpabelanger: ok21:58
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EmilienMgood night folks21:58
dmsimardapevec: users that are not spoonfed through installers and use RDO packages care21:59
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dmsimardthis is a big deal with UCA, they've done a lot of stupid things that pissed off operators21:59
apevecdmsimard, ok, let's include your manifests in weirdo :)22:00
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dmsimardwe.... could22:00
dmsimardbut there's no gate jobs for it yet :p22:00
dmsimardthough the centos-cloud use case is covered by puppet-openstack-integration jobs22:01
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rdogerritJakub Ruzicka proposed rdopkg: actions: Do not reset branch if local_patches is set
rdogerritMerged rdopkg: actions: Do not reset branch if local_patches is set
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imcsk8apevec: do we have a page like this in RDO?
apevecimcsk8, not afaik, but that feels like it should be releasenotes22:47
apevecand for that we should use reno22:47
imcsk8i like that tool22:47
apevecbut yeah, we might still have a generated webpage integrated into website, were we'd collect reno output across all projects22:48
apevecs/projects/packages/ I meant that we should start using reno in rpm-master22:50
apevecthat would be then used for %changelog generation22:50
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