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| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:15 |
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| mrhillsman | 1900UTC right? | 18:15 |
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| studarus | I've seen 1900 and 1700... | 18:44 |
| josephrsandoval | yea i think the time is wrong in the email | 18:45 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | This one actually says 1800 UTC: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 18:46 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | There has been a lot of confusion about the meeting time, so we should update eavesdrop, UC governance page, wiki, and the IRC messaging with the right times. | 18:48 |
| josephrsandoval | lol. | 18:48 |
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| jamesmcarthur_ | But the correct time should be 1900 UTC | 18:48 |
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| josephrsandoval | after the last time change it seems our times have gotten miscalibrated. | 18:49 |
| belmorei_ | hi everyone | 18:50 |
| belmorei_ | Unfortunately, I missed the meeting today | 18:50 |
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| belmorei_ | can't find the meeting log in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/ | 18:52 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | Hi belmorei_ you haven't :) | 18:54 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | It starts in 6 minutes | 18:54 |
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| belmorei_ | jamesmcarthur_ that's good news. VM_ email mentioned 17:00 UTC | 18:55 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | yeah, I think that was incorrect | 18:56 |
| mrhillsman | belmorei_: is your irc with _? | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | or that means you are away | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | some folks use it to signal they are away but others have actual _ at the end | 18:57 |
| mrhillsman | asking for updating things | 18:57 |
| belmorei_ | mrhillsman no, my normal nick is belmoreira. But I forgot to log out at work | 18:58 |
| VW_ | damnit - I blame lack of coffee | 18:58 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | ditto | 18:58 |
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| VW_ | but, it looks like we have some folks | 19:00 |
| VW_ | so | 19:00 |
| VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 25 19:01:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 19:01 |
| VW_ | #topic roll call | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 19:01 | |
| VW_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| josephrsandoval_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| studarus | o/ | 19:01 |
| VW_ | #chair belmorei_ spotz josephrsandoval_ studarus | 19:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmorei_ josephrsandoval_ spotz studarus | 19:01 |
| belmorei_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| aprice | o/ | 19:01 |
| spotz | o/ | 19:01 |
| VW_ | woo hoo - it's a party! | 19:01 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 19:02 |
| aprice | congrats spotz, studarus & belmorei_! | 19:02 |
| VW_ | indeed | 19:02 |
| josephrsandoval_ | woot! | 19:02 |
| VW_ | #topic Welcome New Members | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome New Members (Meeting topic: uc)" | 19:02 | |
| VW_ | and thank you mrhillsman and leong for all your hard work to date | 19:02 |
| mrhillsman | welcome | 19:03 |
| mrhillsman | eavesdrop patch submitted | 19:03 |
| aprice | +1 | 19:03 |
| mrhillsman | will fix up other things | 19:03 |
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| mrhillsman | let me know if anything is missing | 19:03 |
| mrhillsman | congrats to belmorei_ and studarus and welcome back spotz | 19:04 |
| leong | o/ | 19:04 |
| VW_ | hey leong - thanks for joining. We were just saying thanks for all the great work to date | 19:04 |
| leong | thanks . glad to be part of the team | 19:05 |
| VW_ | #topic Chair and Vice Chair | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Chair and Vice Chair (Meeting topic: uc)" | 19:05 | |
| VW_ | so, with mrhillsman not re-running, we need to name a chair and vice chair going forward | 19:05 |
| spotz | We'll miss you mrhillsman and leong! | 19:05 |
| mrhillsman | i'll still be around ;) | 19:06 |
| mrhillsman | as much as i can of course | 19:06 |
| leong | drop me an email if need help.. especially for PRC engagement :-) | 19:06 |
| VW_ | will do for sure leong | 19:07 |
| belmorei_ | thanks for all the work mrhillsman and leong. It was really appreciated in the community | 19:07 |
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| belmorei_ | hope that I can continue represent the UC as well as you did | 19:08 |
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| VW_ | bah! my VPN client barfed | 19:08 |
| VW_ | sorry | 19:08 |
| mrhillsman | i have no doubt you and john will belmorei_ | 19:08 |
| mrhillsman | very solid group of folks indeed on the uc | 19:09 |
| leong | belmorei_: i believe you will provide good perspective to UC especially your experience | 19:09 |
| belmorei_ | thanks leong. I will do my best | 19:10 |
| VW_ | so, does anyone have thoughts on the chair/vice chair bits? | 19:10 |
| studarus | by seniority? | 19:11 |
| spotz | That's kinda how we did it last time studarus but definitely not how we need to do it this time | 19:11 |
| spotz | It's really however we want to do it:) | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | nomination - matt chair - joseph vice - only cause amy i believe is on other committees | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | up to you all though :) | 19:12 |
| VW_ | There's no hard fast rules. It probably makes sense for spotz, josephrsandoval_ or myself to chair because of familiarity with things, but if anyone has a burning desire we can discuss | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | john is ambassador | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | belmorei_ is new | 19:12 |
| mrhillsman | but if you want to jump in you should | 19:13 |
| studarus | I second matt/chair and joseph/vice | 19:13 |
| VW_ | I'm willing to but want to make sure we aren't skipping anyone with interest | 19:14 |
| mrhillsman | ^ | 19:14 |
| VW_ | feel free to chime in if anyone has a strong feeling | 19:14 |
| josephrsandoval_ | agreed. | 19:14 |
| studarus | would you like to explain the duties real quick? | 19:14 |
| VW_ | Primarily, it's interfacing with the board and TC | 19:14 |
| VW_ | the chair is a main point of contact from those other groups | 19:14 |
| VW_ | and ideally - at least the chair - attends the board meeting and combined session at the summits | 19:15 |
| VW_ | usually, we get 3 or more members at those though | 19:15 |
| VW_ | typically, there are a few slides the UC presents on what is going on at that meeting | 19:15 |
| studarus | I'd like to learn more about running the group - that's probably my shortcoming | 19:15 |
| studarus | so whatever role would help me get up to speed would be great for me | 19:16 |
| VW_ | additionally, we look the chair/vice chair to remind folks on meetings, run them in IRC, etc | 19:16 |
| VW_ | did I miss anything else mrhillsman? | 19:16 |
| studarus | who has been chair and vice in the past? Do we need to rotate more so there's more experience? | 19:17 |
| mrhillsman | i think the chair also should be checking that things are working as expected and try to shore up any gaps | 19:17 |
| spotz | PArticipate with meetings set up by the foundation, should actively participate in the mettings | 19:17 |
| VW_ | The good news is too, studarus - we can definitely revisit each election, so if you wanted to get your feed under you between now and August and then wanted to jump in, it's and hop in | 19:17 |
| belmorei_ | i'm the newbie. I wouldn't like to have those roles for now | 19:17 |
| VW_ | to anwer your question, it's been Melvin/myself for a year | 19:19 |
| mrhillsman | one thing that would probably be good is to have a resolution on the actual duties of both since we never actually did | 19:19 |
| VW_ | good point mrhillsman | 19:20 |
| belmorei_ | mrhillsman +1 | 19:20 |
| spotz | And the time frames as we haven't revisited the issue in a year but I think we unlike the TC might have term limits | 19:20 |
| mrhillsman | a lot of the high level stuff is easy to pin down like meetings, holding votes, reporting results of elections, etc | 19:20 |
| mrhillsman | spotz VW_ and i did not find it but agree we think there was a term limit imposed | 19:20 |
| VW_ | it's not in the resolution that expanded the UC to 5 members, etc | 19:21 |
| VW_ | but yes, we can review all those things | 19:21 |
| spotz | That's where I thought it was so interesting | 19:21 |
| mrhillsman | maybe it was removed; unfortunately i was not on the uc when the last charter/governance doc was updated prior to moving from appointed to elected members but remember seeing that somewhere iirc | 19:21 |
| mrhillsman | does that help studarus | belmorei_ | 19:22 |
| studarus | yes, thanks!! I'd like to second my second for matt/chair and joseph/vice | 19:23 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 19:23 |
| belmorei_ | yes, thanks | 19:23 |
| josephrsandoval_ | lol | 19:24 |
| VW_ | well then, let's make it an official vote - one second and I'll set it up. | 19:24 |
| VW_ | #startvote Should Matt be Chaire and Joseph be Vice-chair? Yes No Abstain | 19:24 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should Matt be Chaire and Joseph be Vice-chair? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. | 19:25 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:25 |
| VW_ | belmorei_, studarus, josephrsandoval_ spotz and myself please respond | 19:25 |
| spotz | #abstain | 19:25 |
| spotz | #vote abstain | 19:25 |
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| josephrsandoval_ | #vote Yes | 19:26 |
| belmorei_ | #vote Yes | 19:26 |
| studarus_ | #vote Yes | 19:27 |
| VW_ | #vote abstain | 19:27 |
| VW_ | sorry feel weird voting for myself :) | 19:27 |
| VW_ | #endvote | 19:27 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should Matt be Chaire and Joseph be Vice-chair?" Results are | 19:27 |
| openstack | Yes (3): josephrsandoval_, studarus_, belmorei_ | 19:27 |
| openstack | Abstain (2): VW_, spotz | 19:27 |
| mrhillsman | well thankfully joseph did not abstain lol | 19:27 |
| josephrsandoval_ | i was going to abstain. but not votes were forthcoming. :-) | 19:27 |
| spotz | Yeah well | 19:28 |
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| VW_ | well, now we need to update the info | 19:29 |
| VW_ | #action VW_ update UC member list | 19:29 |
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| mrhillsman | i'm going to remove myself and leong from gerrit groups | 19:30 |
| VW_ | and we need to add the other two | 19:31 |
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| mrhillsman | yep | 19:32 |
| mrhillsman | done | 19:32 |
| mrhillsman | eavesdrop update - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639176/ - track to make sure it merges | 19:33 |
| VW_ | #topic Meeting time | 19:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting time (Meeting topic: uc)" | 19:33 | |
| VW_ | so, now that we have a new mix of folks is 1900 UTC still good for everyone? | 19:33 |
| VW_ | aside from some need to update docs in places | 19:34 |
| mrhillsman | oh yeah, sorry, i jumped the gun on that from the email and discussion before meeting | 19:34 |
| mrhillsman | i can change it though before it merges | 19:34 |
| spotz | studarus: I believe is west coast and belmorei_ is CET? | 19:35 |
| studarus | earlier would be nice for me | 19:36 |
| studarus | I'm PST but getting these meetings done first thing in the AM works best in my schedule | 19:36 |
| josephrsandoval_ | same for me. | 19:36 |
| studarus | even like 7am would be fantastic | 19:36 |
| belmorei_ | yes, I'm on CET. Earlier will be better for me too | 19:36 |
| josephrsandoval_ | lol now we're getting wild. | 19:36 |
| VW_ | spotz I know we've been colliding with another meeting of yours | 19:37 |
| VW_ | is that still happeneing? | 19:37 |
| spotz | VW_: We moved out meeting to accomidate European members | 19:37 |
| VW_ | gotcha | 19:38 |
| VW_ | what time is it now | 19:38 |
| belmorei_ | 20:48 CET | 19:38 |
| VW_ | if we are going to make a change to this one, the LAST thing I want to do is drop it on top of your other one again | 19:38 |
| spotz | We're 17:00 UTC | 19:38 |
| spotz | We should also decide if we're going to follow UTC like all other OpenStack meetings do | 19:39 |
| studarus | I'm good with 1700 UTC | 19:39 |
| studarus | definitely stick with UTC | 19:39 |
| VW_ | no 1700 won't work | 19:39 |
| VW_ | it conflicts with spotz's other meeting | 19:39 |
| VW_ | and yes, I believe our intent was to follow UTC | 19:39 |
| VW_ | so the meeting will "move" for those with daylight savings | 19:40 |
| spotz | I can do 16:00 after a work meeting or 18:00 right after diversity WG | 19:40 |
| josephrsandoval_ | 16:00 was going to be my suggestion | 19:40 |
| studarus | 1600 works for me | 19:41 |
| belmorei_ | 16:00 UTC would be perfect for me | 19:41 |
| VW_ | aprice, jamesmcarthur_ - any issue for foundation folks attending? | 19:42 |
| aprice | works for us | 19:42 |
| VW_ | OK - let's make it official | 19:42 |
| spotz | So 8am PST, 10AM CST, AND 5PM CET FOR TRANSLATION TO EVERYONE | 19:42 |
| VW_ | #startvote What should the meeting time be in UST 1600 1800 1900 | 19:43 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 19:43 |
| VW_ | bah | 19:43 |
| spotz | It's just yes/no/abstain | 19:43 |
| mrhillsman | need the ? mark | 19:43 |
| VW_ | #startvote What should the meeting time be in UST? 1600 1800 1900 | 19:44 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: What should the meeting time be in UST? Valid vote options are 1600, 1800, 1900. | 19:44 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:44 |
| mrhillsman | but yeah, since time was already decided yes/no/abstain should be fine | 19:44 |
| mrhillsman | hehe nvm | 19:44 |
| VW_ | sorry - typing too fast | 19:44 |
| VW_ | let me fix | 19:44 |
| VW_ | #endvote | 19:44 |
| openstack | Voted on "What should the meeting time be in UST?" Results are | 19:44 |
| VW_ | #startvote Should we move the meeting to 1600 UST? Yes No Abstain | 19:45 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we move the meeting to 1600 UST? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. | 19:45 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:45 |
| VW_ | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| studarus | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| belmorei_ | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| josephrsandoval_ | #vote #vote yes | 19:45 |
| openstack | josephrsandoval_: #vote yes is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, Abstain. | 19:45 |
| josephrsandoval_ | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| spotz | #vote yes | 19:45 |
| VW_ | #endvote | 19:45 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we move the meeting to 1600 UST?" Results are | 19:45 |
| openstack | Yes (5): spotz, josephrsandoval_, VW_, belmorei_, studarus | 19:45 |
| VW_ | OK - we need to update that info too | 19:46 |
| VW_ | mrhillsman: you said you could change before it merges? | 19:46 |
| spotz | Yeah just put up another patch | 19:47 |
| VW_ | #topic Any other business? | 19:47 |
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| studarus | I'm interested in formalizing the Ambassador roles/acceptance criteria. | 19:47 |
| studarus | What's the best way to go about? Draft something up and send it along? | 19:48 |
| studarus | Canada ambassador stepped down and we have a nomination for a replacement. | 19:48 |
| aprice | studarus: getting Ashlee to join because she has her head in it the most | 19:48 |
| aprice | from the foundation staff perspective atleast | 19:49 |
| aprice | i think that drafting something and sending it along would be a great start | 19:49 |
| VW_ | yeah - I would say start an etherpad or something for folks to contribute ideas. I put it on the agenda for next week studarus | 19:49 |
| studarus | has there been any discussion in the past about some governance in those nominations? | 19:49 |
| spotz | Also get the other ambassadlors to help contribute | 19:49 |
| VW_ | we can visit the topic the next few meetings if need be to nail down something we like | 19:50 |
| aprice | +1 | 19:50 |
| spotz | I think it's always been an OSF/Aambassadors decision not oone the UC has been involved it | 19:50 |
| aprice | ideally, the UC would play a larger role in that process though | 19:50 |
| spotz | But maybe mrhillsman, VW_ or josephrsandoval_ have more insight.. | 19:50 |
| spotz | We should as they fall under us but we haven't | 19:51 |
| studarus | The process could use some transparency and definition | 19:51 |
| spotz | +1 | 19:51 |
| studarus | I've got some thoughts and will write them down | 19:51 |
| studarus | Are we doing anything in Denver? | 19:51 |
| aprice | in the past, we have reviewed the nominations at the Foundation, but I think after the Dublin PTG, we brainstormed how the UC could take a larger role with the UGs and ambassadors. I can also try to find that etherpad. | 19:52 |
| spotz | studarus: You mean a session where the ambassadors and UC meet? Probably, that's something Ashlee puts on the schedule | 19:53 |
| VW_ | good call | 19:53 |
| VW_ | we should discuss all our needs for the forum before that process wraps up | 19:54 |
| VW_ | I added that to next week's agenda too | 19:54 |
| studarus | I'd like to invite user group leaders as well | 19:54 |
| spotz | I don't think anyone is ever excluded from comings, it's just most people from the groups don't attend | 19:55 |
| VW_ | for sure | 19:55 |
| studarus | and some sort of recognition for the user group leaders - badge stickers! | 19:55 |
| mrhillsman | patch fixed | 19:55 |
| aprice | yeah, we invite the user group leaders each summit | 19:55 |
| aprice | we actually got good representation in berlin from i think 12 different countries | 19:56 |
| VW_ | time check - 4 minutes | 19:56 |
| VW_ | err 3 now :) | 19:56 |
| spotz | studarus: that would be AUC status:) | 19:56 |
| studarus | never hurts to have more stickers | 19:56 |
| spotz | I kow atleast one person had an issue with Berlin security for adding their own sticker to the badge | 19:56 |
| spotz | Cause we added the gender pronouns:( | 19:57 |
| aprice | yeah - we try to limit the number of stickers because it can be a slippery slope :) | 19:57 |
| spotz | They thought it was covering something up:( | 19:57 |
| aprice | they thought what was covering something up? | 19:58 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | the added sticker | 19:59 |
| spotz | Yep | 19:59 |
| aprice | ah | 19:59 |
| VW_ | OK - we are at time | 20:00 |
| VW_ | anything else we have to cover before we close things out? | 20:00 |
| VW_ | please feel free to add to future meeting agendas in the doc | 20:00 |
| VW_ | as well | 20:00 |
| aprice | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| VW_ | going once | 20:01 |
| VW_ | going twice | 20:01 |
| VW_ | done! :) | 20:01 |
| spotz | I'm good | 20:01 |
| VW_ | #endmeeting | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack UC: 2019 Elections coming! Open Candidacy 01/21-02/03 | Meetings @ 1900UTC | Agenda - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc" | 20:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 25 20:02:02 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-02-25-19.01.html | 20:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-02-25-19.01.txt | 20:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2019/uc.2019-02-25-19.01.log.html | 20:02 |
| VW_ | thanks all - see you at 1600 next Monday :) | 20:02 |
| belmorei_ | thanks everyone | 20:02 |
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| studarus | Are there any User Committee events at the PTG? Or are we good just going to the Summit? | 23:06 |
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