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| mnaser | o/ | 01:01 |
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| fungi | that time once more | 01:01 |
| mnaser | so I've been thinking how can we easier on board new developers | 01:02 |
| mnaser | And uh, I was wondering if a sign in with GitHub that automatically pulls/syncs all of the ssh keys you have as well a good way to "get up to speed" | 01:02 |
| mnaser | kinda avoids that one extra account you'd need to create and most likely most folks have a GitHub account | 01:03 |
| fungi | there's been some planning (at the ptg and a bit before) on what our central authentication service should look like. we seemed to have consensus on letting people identify with a fairly broad selection of identity providers | 01:04 |
| fungi | github was mentioned as a likely one for the list | 01:04 |
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| mnaser | Cool. I think being able to at least streamline that process to also pull in keys might be super useful. | 01:05 |
| fungi | seems like a mechanism to be able to copy ssh keys into gerrit from multiple external sources (lp is another) would make sense | 01:06 |
| mnaser | Yep. I didn't know launchpad stored ssh keys too.. | 01:06 |
| fungi | https://launchpad.net/~fungi | 01:07 |
| fungi | the "ssh keys" heading there | 01:07 |
| mnaser | Neat | 01:08 |
| mnaser | Also it's kinda occurring to me that at this point the pdf documents goal seems to share the same tox target.. If we update the upstream jobs then all projects will magically get it and the goal is done..? | 01:08 |
| fungi | nah, sounds like the dependencies (texlive especially) are very heavyweight and shouldn't be added to the docs testenv in tox | 01:10 |
| fungi | and also adjustments need to be made to documents to accommodate pdf building, at least in some cases | 01:10 |
| fungi | dhellmann mentioned that nova's docs, for example, need some stuff fixed before they can have sphinx produce a pdf version | 01:11 |
| fungi | the rough plan sounds like the job which currently builds html sphinx docs will be updated to try to build pdfs at the same time but skip pdf generation if it's not working for a given project | 01:12 |
| fungi | and then the goal part is for projects to fix whatever is needed in their documentation so that it starts working for them | 01:13 |
| fungi | longer term we can work on adjustments to the docs section of the pti to cover a standardized mechanism to assist in generating pdfs locally, but that's out of scope for this particular goal (might be a future cycle goal though?) | 01:16 |
| mnaser | Ah gotcha | 01:21 |
| mnaser | That makes a lot more sense.. | 01:21 |
| mnaser | I think referencing back to this eavesdrop might be good for someone to get up to speed | 01:21 |
| mnaser | In other news, I just did a full production IPv6 only deployment of OpenStack and it seems.. okay so far | 01:22 |
| fungi | there was talk of getting some implementation details added to the goal text | 01:22 |
| mnaser | So there should hopefully not be too much work but mostly addition of CI | 01:22 |
| fungi | neat! no v4 routes connecting the control plane services to one another? | 01:22 |
| mnaser | Absolutely nothing. The only v4 is a vip which haproxy listens on | 01:23 |
| mnaser | Otherwise past haproxy everything is ipv6 | 01:23 |
| fungi | but yeah, since we can't completely eliminate ipv4 from our test deployments, clarkb suggested adding a tcpdump process filtering for v4 traffic across all interfaces with specific known v4 exclusions (like connectivity from zuul executors) whitelisted and then failing the job if something which shouldn't have communicated over v4 tries to | 01:25 |
| fungi | anyway, that's great news on the v6-only deployment! | 01:26 |
| mnaser | Yeah. I was thinking we would have to do something similar | 01:27 |
| mnaser | That would be the best way to simulate that. It would be nice if we made that a zuul role so we in deployment projects could leverage it too | 01:28 |
| fungi | that shouldn't be too hard, i wouldn't think | 01:28 |
| fungi | at one time we used to have a similar mechanism to check for forbidden sudo invocations and oom triggers and fail the job. similar idea | 01:29 |
| fungi | would probably need two roles... one to start up tcpdump at the right time, and another to check the file it logged | 01:31 |
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| fungi | and this concludes our wednesday office hour. tune in at 1500z thursday for the next exciting installment! | 02:00 |
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| asettle | o/ | 10:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Updating the PDF goal for Train https://review.opendev.org/664846 | 10:02 |
| asettle | tc-members ^^ please see the updated PDF train goal above. | 10:02 |
| asettle | fungi, now you've updated the wiki, I'll go ahead and send out an update email to openstack-discuss | 10:03 |
| fungi | thanks, asettle! | 12:04 |
| ttx | reviewed | 12:04 |
| iurygregory | Hello everyone, does anyone know a doc that explain the process to move an existing git project to be under ironic umbrella? o/ | 12:05 |
| fungi | iurygregory: governance process or opendev hosting procedure? | 12:05 |
| * iurygregory was thinking it was the same =X | 12:06 | |
| iurygregory | fungi, can you explain the difference? | 12:06 |
| fungi | the former is to just propose an addition to the ironic section of https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/reference/projects.yaml and the tc will review it | 12:07 |
| fungi | the latter depends on whether you're importing it from outside opendev.org or changing namespaces in opendev.org | 12:08 |
| iurygregory | My case is that we have https://github.com/metal3-io/ironic-prometheus-exporter and I've talked with the Ironic team and they are ok, also in the openstack-discuss email Mohamed was ok with the idea to move the project under ironic umbrella =) | 12:08 |
| fungi | iurygregory: in that case follow https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html and specify that url in the "upstream" parameter so it will be imported automatically when the project creation change to openstack/project-config is approved | 12:11 |
| iurygregory | fungi, thanks! | 12:11 |
| fungi | any time | 12:12 |
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| asettle | tc-members - email to discuss list sent about the changes to the health checks. All we need now is those governance patches from mugsie and mnaser :) | 13:15 |
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| dhellmann | asettle : which set of rules are we using to vote on your goal update patch? | 13:38 |
| * asettle rubs temples | 13:38 | |
| asettle | Good question | 13:38 |
| asettle | goal-update lgtm? | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | it may need to be formal-vote, because goal-update was for when PTLs needed to submit patches to link to the work they were doing | 13:40 |
| asettle | Hmm not quite, i mean, the verbiage suits. I guess doc-update | 13:41 |
| asettle | You think so? | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | maybe doc-update fits | 13:41 |
| asettle | Just seems a bit strong for a clarification point. | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | this is why I asked :-) | 13:41 |
| asettle | Let's roll with doc until someone has something else to add | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | ok, you could update the topic tag to indicate that | 13:41 |
| asettle | Updated already :) | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | ty | 13:41 |
| asettle | no, ty | 13:41 |
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| fungi | we could go for a semblance of the new goal process we talked about at the ptg, where if it's just adding/changing the implementation plan then we apply doc-update or similar | 14:09 |
| fungi | (granted, "the new plan" involved separate documents for clarity of process, but handwave) | 14:10 |
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