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| openstackgerrit | Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinder 13.0.6 https://review.opendev.org/669770 | 01:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/releases master: Release glance_store 1.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/672627 | 05:45 |
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| evrardjp | hello | 07:20 |
| evrardjp | catching up | 07:20 |
| evrardjp | mwhahaha: you're right the formatting of yaml (between the two it's even worse), is a pain :) | 07:21 |
| evrardjp | yeah I should get the ball rolling on having those scripts per milestone | 07:22 |
| evrardjp | simplify life of everyone | 07:22 |
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| ttx | Hi team, I'm back home today but will likely crash and fall asleep before the meeting | 11:22 |
| ttx | Let me know if there is anything I can help with. The earlier the better : | 11:23 |
| ttx | :) | 11:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luka Peschke proposed openstack/releases master: Release cloudkitty 10.0.0 and python-cloudkittyclient 3.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/672057 | 12:35 |
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| ttx | I can help pick up the Train-2 remaining pieces tomorrow morning | 13:30 |
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| fungi | best to probably hold off approving release changes just yet. looks like we need to force replication to all gitea backends due to the outage earlier resulting in some git objects missing from random repos | 13:43 |
| fungi | replication of new refs will be delayed until the mass replication finishes, which could be a few hours | 13:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/releases master: openstackdocstheme 1.31 https://review.opendev.org/672726 | 13:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release new version of neutron-tempest-plugin https://review.opendev.org/671994 | 13:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release Tempest 21.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/670700 | 13:57 |
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| fungi | hopefully the neutron-tempest-plugin and tempest releases there aren't affected | 14:12 |
| fungi | fingers crossed | 14:12 |
| fungi | if they break because of nonexistent tag refs in gitea, i should be able to reenqueue them | 14:13 |
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| smcginnis | I will be in the air during this week's meeting. If there is anything I can follow up on afterwards, just let me know. I'll finally be back at my desk tomorrow. | 15:07 |
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| efried | Hi release peeps. Some clarification on the cycle-with-intermediary rules, if you please. | 16:23 |
| efried | Are such projects simply required to have done a train release by now, even if it was weeks ago, or are they expected to do one this week specifically? | 16:24 |
| ttx | efried: at least one before (or at) train-2 | 16:29 |
| efried | thanks ttx. Seems os-vif and python-novaclient are covered, then. | 16:29 |
| ttx | Also train-2 is not really a strict deadline. what we end up doing is propose a switch to cycle-with-rc to those who haven't done any release yet. that opns a discussion | 16:30 |
| ttx | efried: yep you look covered | 16:30 |
| ttx | efried: actually | 16:30 |
| ttx | what I described is for cycle-with-intermediary services, not libraries | 16:31 |
| ttx | libraries (which are all cycle-with-intermeidary) needs to be rfereshed at least once per milestone | 16:31 |
| ttx | so if you did a release for os-vif and python-novaclient since train-1, you are covered | 16:32 |
| ttx | if not, we will propose one | 16:32 |
| ttx | (idea being to force library refreshes so that we catch issues earlier) | 16:32 |
| ttx | of course if there is no change, no need to propose anything | 16:32 |
| ttx | efried: hopefully that clarifies ^ | 16:33 |
| efried | Thanks ttx | 16:33 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: i'm +1 on the cinder rocky release now https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669770/ | 18:21 |
| mriedem | jungleboyj: ^ | 18:21 |
| mriedem | from a stable pov | 18:21 |
| jungleboyj | mriedem: LGTM Thanks. | 18:22 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting releaseteam | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 25 19:00:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 19:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 19:00 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: Hey there! | 19:01 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 19:01 |
| fungi | i'm around, though multitasking on yardwork | 19:01 |
| fungi | also welcome back tonyb! | 19:01 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo, fungi: good to see you | 19:02 |
| tonyb | fungi: Thanks | 19:02 |
| evrardjp | tonyb: :) | 19:02 |
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| tonyb | I think this might be everyone ttx and smcginnis are traveling / have just gotten home | 19:03 |
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| tonyb | #topic task list | 19:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | Quite possibly. I saw messages from ttx saying he was fading fast several hours ago | 19:05 |
| tonyb | Membership Freeze | 19:05 |
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| diablo_rojo | As of yesterday I think there were 16 governance deliverables that don't exist in the train dir | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | but I think the majority wont be | 19:06 |
| * diablo_rojo grabs etherpad linl | 19:06 | |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-membership-freeze | 19:06 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Thanks! | 19:07 |
| tonyb | sorry took a while to digest that | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | No worries | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Havent had a response on the helm ones | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | the compute-hyperv | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | too | 19:08 |
| evrardjp | I will ping OSH to make sure they are in this channel | 19:08 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: Thanks | 19:09 |
| evrardjp | I just pinged pete for that -- it's not the first cycle OSH isn't taking decisions for releases | 19:09 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Looks like you have that under control | 19:09 |
| * tonyb steps away and tries not to slow you down | 19:10 | |
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| diablo_rojo | tonyb, heh more or less I can harp on people a little more to get the 16 --> 0 | 19:10 |
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| tonyb | diablo_rojo: :) Well 0 repos without a response at least | 19:12 |
| tonyb | M-2 tasks | 19:13 |
| tonyb | Do stable autoreleases around milestones - https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005701 | 19:14 |
| tonyb | I think that's blocked by: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/releases+branch:master+topic:feature/new_tools | 19:14 |
| tonyb | But I'll run them today to process the missing m-2 releases (assuming that's needed) | 19:15 |
| tonyb | and then next week we can test them with the stable stuff | 19:15 |
| tonyb | does that sound ok? | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Sounds fine to me (with the disclaimer that she's only reading process now) | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | let's say yes? | 19:16 |
| tonyb | hehe | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | I know we need to get the unreleased libraries done. | 19:17 |
| tonyb | Well I messed that (the process) up last week but I htink that'll get us back on track | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh and deliverables that are intermediary that havent released yet | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Sounds right to me. | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | (again, being no expert in the process) | 19:18 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 19:18 |
| tonyb | We missed a few things we were supposed to do befoer m-2 but we'll get that back on track | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Indeed we will. | 19:20 |
| tonyb | Look up progress on must-do/should-do improvements ... | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Was a long stretch of a lot of us being out | 19:20 |
| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-train-ptg | 19:20 |
| tonyb | around lin 93 | 19:21 |
| tonyb | The must do iteam all look to be in progess and -W'd by me so I shoudl fix that ;P | 19:22 |
| tonyb | Engage with QA on communicating classification rates regularly | 19:22 |
| evrardjp | well they are not all reviewed, so let's wait for the -w to disappear first :) | 19:22 |
| tonyb | I don;t know if we started doign that ? | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, I dont think so | 19:22 |
| evrardjp | s/let's wait/I was waiting/ | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Am happy to talk to them but idk what I'm supposed to talk about exactly lol | 19:23 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: That's cool that kinda why I had them with -W | 19:23 |
| evrardjp | I can't remember what said "classification rates" is. | 19:23 |
| tonyb | Basically we thought it'd be good for the QA team to drive getting bugs classified in terms of e-r | 19:24 |
| evrardjp | ohh | 19:24 |
| tonyb | Leaving things as unclassified doesn't help us understand if we have a couple of big bugs that'd be bad to realease | 19:24 |
| evrardjp | got it | 19:25 |
| tonyb | It's quite a bit of work to do it and I think we just wanted to start the conversation | 19:25 |
| tonyb | It'd be good to have someone signed up to do that ... just start the conversation | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Basically just to put it on their radar? | 19:27 |
| * diablo_rojo goes to look up when the QA meeting is | 19:27 | |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Yes and Thanks | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | *office hours | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay | 19:28 |
| * diablo_rojo is all signed up and looks at evrardjp for all other open items ;P | 19:28 | |
| tonyb | Audit OUI traning material to make sure it matches the current process/tools | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | should I really sign up for ^ while you're such an expert on this diablo_rojo? ;) | 19:29 |
| tonyb | hehe | 19:29 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: You totally can ;P | 19:30 |
| tonyb | We can leave that and 'Update branch creation script to add new python job template on master as part of opening a new series' for next week to assign | 19:31 |
| evrardjp | I guess I will tackle https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005706 | 19:31 |
| evrardjp | if I don't take the OUI training material, it seems fair | 19:31 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: \o/ | 19:32 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: do you need any pointers? | 19:33 |
| evrardjp | will check with dhellmann if necessary but that looks okay. | 19:33 |
| evrardjp | we can discuss stuff on reviews anyway. | 19:34 |
| tonyb | cool | 19:34 |
| tonyb | I think it's mostly a project-config review but we can totally do that | 19:34 |
| tonyb | I expect there will be a little setup work (unless that part of the existing goal) and then a reasonably simple bash chnage | 19:35 |
| evrardjp | I thought it was building the tooling to, so it's ... more than just this | 19:35 |
| evrardjp | but yeah | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | the tricky bit for that is going to be telling that script the name of the next series | 19:36 |
| dhellmann | it already has the name of the series for the branch being created, but that's not the name we need for the job template | 19:36 |
| evrardjp | I see | 19:37 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: We should have a 'future' release in series_status right? and the job name shoudl be well formed right? | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | we should have all of that information in the releases repo, though, so it's just a matter of exposing it to the script | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | right | 19:38 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: okay | 19:38 |
| evrardjp | ok | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | the way I usually test changes to those project config scripts is by commenting out the "git review" or "git push" calls so they do their thing and then I can look at my local directory to see the results | 19:39 |
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| dhellmann | the script to be changed is in project-config: roles/copy-release-tools-scripts/files/release-tools/make_branch.sh | 19:40 |
| evrardjp | I had it :) | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | see the call to add_release_notes_page.sh at the end of that script for an example of a similar modification | 19:41 |
| evrardjp | I was planning to do it that way, cool we are in sync | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | and then there are some things in goal-tools that may be useful for adding jobs to zuul yaml files | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | that's the openstack/goal-tools git repo | 19:41 |
| evrardjp | I was just checking if the release repo is available as required project to be able to load that lib | 19:42 |
| evrardjp | oh good thinking, I don't need to come up with code if someone already wrote that. Thanks for the pointer dhellmann! | 19:42 |
| tonyb | moving on? | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | the tag-releases job that runs make_branch.sh runs when things merge in the releases repo, so it's not a dependency it's the *main* repo being processed | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | yeah, evrardjp and I can chat about other details later if he has questions | 19:44 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: thanks again | 19:44 |
| tonyb | Thanks dhellmann | 19:45 |
| tonyb | and thanks evrardjp for doign that | 19:46 |
| tonyb | We're almost done | 19:46 |
| tonyb | #topic weekly emails | 19:47 |
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| tonyb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 19:47 |
| tonyb | Around line 295 | 19:47 |
| diablo_rojo | Looks like the only thing thats needed is the list of cycle-with-intermediary that havent released yet | 19:47 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Yeah ... and to releas-type change proposal | 19:48 |
| tonyb | I'll do both of those today | 19:49 |
| diablo_rojo | Cool :) Let me know if you get busy with more important work and need someone to pick it up. | 19:50 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Thanks | 19:50 |
| tonyb | I *really* want to get it done today but if I fail I'll ping you | 19:51 |
| tonyb | #topic open discussion | 19:51 |
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| tonyb | Anything? | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, sounds good. | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo | I got nothing | 19:51 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: ? | 19:51 |
| evrardjp | checking on the yaml stuff, just a sec | 19:51 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: okay | 19:51 |
| evrardjp | yeah just wondering if that's not a bazooka to kill a fly: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672545/ | 19:52 |
| evrardjp | do we really need to ensure some form of presentation validation, instead of just yaml semantics validation? that was asked on the channel | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | the yaml linter complains about indentation | 19:53 |
| evrardjp | (it's just to know more about the context of why this was done, but the convo can happen outside the meeting) | 19:53 |
| evrardjp | except that, no real item | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | since yaml is white-space sensitive it seems reasonable to be consistent there | 19:53 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: yeah that sounds very strict in terms of presentation vs semantics as yaml can allow the items to not be indented | 19:54 |
| dhellmann | I don't know anything about that. I didn't write the linter. | 19:54 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with consistency | 19:54 |
| evrardjp | ok | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | +2 for consistency | 19:54 |
| evrardjp | got it, it's just using defaults. Sounds good enough to me as a validation | 19:54 |
| evrardjp | who wants to tweak a yaml linter anyway? :p | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | I know that the indentation validation has caught logical errors in the content in the past | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | things that should have been inside lists and weren't, or vice versa | 19:55 |
| evrardjp | yeah yaml still being relying on valid indentations | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | even though we give them tools, some people still modify those files by hand | 19:55 |
| evrardjp | yeah I am not complaining about the presence of linting -- just about its strictness compared to yaml standards | 19:56 |
| * tonyb is one of those people ;P | 19:56 | |
| tonyb | evrardjp: for me it really helps with review if we're strict | 19:56 |
| evrardjp | should ppl generate using another lib, they wouldn't care as long as it's valid. But anyway, here we decided a style guide | 19:56 |
| evrardjp | tonyb: yeah that too | 19:57 |
| evrardjp | also, it looks nice the way it is now | 19:57 |
| tonyb | ;P | 19:57 |
| evrardjp | :D | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think PyYAML gets confused if the content isn't indented consistently, too, so it may be making assumptions that the standard doesn't require/support | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | also this just cuts down on bikeshedding of formatting | 19:57 |
| evrardjp | I just wanted to know because there is always someone that will ask, and I can point to this convo. Assuming future me remembers this | 19:58 |
| evrardjp | sorry to have taken that long for this! | 19:58 |
| diablo_rojo | evrardjp, future you can get the meeting logs | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | np, it's good to share background on this stuff | 19:59 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo: present me is not good at grepping meetings logs across years | 19:59 |
| diablo_rojo | evrardjp, I dont think anyone is | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | #action evrardjp to remind past-evrardjp why we chose to be strict in the linter | 19:59 |
| evrardjp | hahaha | 19:59 |
| tonyb | :) | 19:59 |
| tonyb | anything else? | 20:00 |
| evrardjp | none | 20:00 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 25 20:00:58 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| evrardjp | thanks tonyb and everyone! | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-07-25-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-07-25-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-07-25-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks tonyb! | 20:01 |
| * tonyb goes to make coffee | 20:02 | |
| * diablo_rojo goes to have lunch and go on a pokewalk | 20:02 | |
| fungi | thanks tonyb! | 20:03 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: Looking for rocket infected stops and shadow pokemon? | 20:03 |
| diablo_rojo | tonyb, perhaps :) | 20:04 |
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