Tuesday, 2015-12-15

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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/performance-docs: Add section for hyper-scale testing methodology  https://review.openstack.org/25710814:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/performance-docs: Add section for hyper-scale testing methodology  https://review.openstack.org/25710814:46
DinaBelovaregXboi - congrats with first pice of docs merged :)14:48
regXboi:)14:50
regXboitoo many windows up :)14:51
DinaBelova:D14:54
DinaBelovainteresting, I do not see publishing job in progress14:54
DinaBelovaprobably I do not understand right the process :)14:54
DinaBelovaas I see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/performance-docs/ - but no your part here :)14:58
DinaBelovaprobably it's periodical job?14:58
DinaBelovaregXboi - don't you know?14:59
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andreykurilinhi all!15:02
redixinNamaste15:02
andreykurilinoh... I need to wait one more hour for meeting15:02
DinaBelova:D15:03
DinaBelovao/15:03
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - still hi!15:03
andreykurilin:)15:03
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openstackgerritIlya Shakhat proposed openstack/performance-docs: Treat build warnings as errors  https://review.openstack.org/25795415:34
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DinaBelova#startmeeting Performance Team16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 15 16:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'performance_team'16:00
DinaBelovahey folks!16:00
DinaBelovais somebody around? :)16:00
mriedemo/16:00
DinaBelovaharlowja_, klindgren, kun_huang, andreykurilin ? :)16:00
andreykurilinhi hi16:00
andreykurilinI'm here_16:01
andreykurilin)16:01
DinaBelovathat's good :)16:01
DinaBelovalet's wait for a few moments :)16:01
DinaBelovaregXboi? :)16:01
regXboiI'm here - just lurking16:02
regXboiagain - too many windows16:02
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DinaBelovayeah :)16:02
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DinaBelovak, so todays agenda16:02
DinaBelovahttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Performance#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:02
kun_huango/16:02
DinaBelovakun_huang, o/16:02
DinaBelovaso let's start with action items16:02
DinaBelova#topic Action Items16:02
DinaBelova#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2015/performance_team.2015-12-08-16.00.html16:03
DinaBelovathe first item was on regXboi - about hyper scale doc16:03
DinaBelovait was merged today to the repo :)16:03
regXboiyep - the code was submitted ;)16:03
DinaBelovasadly I cannot understand when it should land to the docs.openstack.org16:03
DinaBelovahttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/performance-docs/#16:04
DinaBelovaI see we're currently having the right namespace16:04
oanufrievhi all16:04
DinaBelovaoanufriev o/16:04
DinaBelovabut I'm not sure when publish job will run16:04
DinaBelovamriedem, regXboi - don't you know?16:04
mriedemnot sure16:05
mriedemusually seems pretty quick16:05
ilyashakhatzuul says the job is in queue16:05
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mriedemone could ask in -infra16:05
DinaBelovailyashakhat - oh, cool - it was not there about 30 mins ago16:05
DinaBelovaok, so we just need to wait a bit :)16:05
DinaBelovacool :)16:05
DinaBelovaabout other action items16:05
ilyashakhatnow it is with 1h 18 minutes of being in16:05
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DinaBelovailyashakhat - oh, ok16:06
DinaBelovaso probably I just had outdated zuul page for some reason16:06
DinaBelovaI see that klindgren added some very quick notes to the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/remote-conductor-performance16:07
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DinaBelovabut I'm not sure if he had a chance to make more dumps as it was discussed last time16:07
DinaBelovait looks like he had some more fires last week as well :)16:07
DinaBelovakun_huang - any news about access status to the lab?16:08
DinaBelovaafair we had a plans to create some draft doc about it last week16:08
kun_huangDinaBelova: 6 servers are installed, today16:08
DinaBelovakun_huang - oh, that's very cool :)16:08
DinaBelovaso let's postpone this lab related items for this week16:09
kun_huangaccess means your public key now ;(16:09
kun_huangwe don't have run public lab before16:09
DinaBelova#action kun_huang write some simple doc describing the access to the Huawei lab16:09
DinaBelova#action DinaBelova kun_huang define the queue of test plans to start testing on the Huawei lab16:09
DinaBelovakun_huang - even if so16:09
DinaBelovawe need that somehow documented16:09
DinaBelovaas well as define a queue somehow - even on the etherpad16:10
DinaBelovabut let's discuss that during the needed topic16:10
DinaBelovaso that's it with action items from last time16:10
DinaBelovalet's move forward to the test plans topic16:10
DinaBelova#topic Test plans statuses16:10
DinaBelovawe have some changes to the performance-docs repo opened :)16:11
DinaBelova#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/performance-docs,n,z16:11
DinaBelovatwo of them are in fact test plans16:11
DinaBelova#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254693/ - provisioning systems16:11
DinaBelovakun_huang ^^ waiting your review :)16:11
DinaBelovaand published just today MQ test plan16:12
DinaBelova#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257417/16:12
DinaBelovaso I'm encouraging everyone to spend some time on their reviewing16:12
kun_huangDinaBelova: looking at it16:12
DinaBelovakun_huang - thank :)16:12
DinaBelovaand if somebody is having the test plan idea - please do not be too shy to publish it to the Gerrit :)16:13
DinaBelovaany questions regarding the test plans?16:14
andreykurilinDinaBelova: what about adding some template for test plans ?16:14
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DinaBelovaandreykurilin - very good idea..16:14
* DinaBelova adding this item to the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/perf-zoom-zoom16:14
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - thank you sir16:15
DinaBelova#action DinaBelova add test plan template to the performance-docs repo16:16
DinaBelovaanything else?16:16
andreykurilinalso it would be nice to add some python tests to CI. it will allow to write some hacks to check that docs correctly extend templates16:16
andreykurilinI suppose there are such tests for specs16:16
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - hm, what kind of python tests for the docs are you expecting to see?16:17
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - ah, I got your message about specs16:18
DinaBelovaI'll take a look16:18
andreykurilinDinaBelova: I suppose it will be easy to write some python test that checks new test plans corresponds template16:18
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - yeah, I got what you meant16:18
andreykurilin#link https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/blob/master/tests/test_titles.py16:18
DinaBelovajust not from the first moment :)16:18
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - thanks16:18
DinaBelova#action DinaBelova add tests to check test plans are implementing the template ok16:19
DinaBelovaok, very good input16:19
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - thank you sir :)16:19
andreykurilinyou are welcome16:19
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - something else? I love your ideas :)16:20
andreykurilinheh. no more ideas)16:20
DinaBelova:D16:20
andreykurilinthey are finished for this topic16:20
DinaBelovaok, so it looks like we can proceed :)16:20
DinaBelova#topic Huawei lab status16:20
DinaBelovakun_huang - ok, so you installed the 6 servers today?16:21
kun_huangnot me, the servers are not in my city16:21
DinaBelovakun_huang, yeah, sorry, I meant not you personally but Huawei :)16:21
kun_huangand it's monitor is not accessable for me (ssh is accessable)16:21
kun_huanghuawei guys have done the installation job today16:22
DinaBelovakun_huang - ok, so may you please create some draft for the "Lab Usage Doc" this week? Is that possible?16:22
DinaBelovait can be an etherpad I believe16:22
kun_huangyes, no problem16:23
DinaBelovakun_huang, thank you sir16:23
DinaBelovaok, so the next step will be to merge test plans that are currently on review and try something on the lab :)16:23
kun_huang+10016:24
DinaBelovakun_huang - therefore I believe your reviews are essential here, as you're representing the lab owner :)16:24
DinaBelovaok, very cool16:24
kun_huangI know that, I will finish the access doc this week ;)16:25
DinaBelovakun_huang, thank you sir16:25
DinaBelovaany questions regarding the lab?16:25
DinaBelovaok16:25
DinaBelovaI believe we may skip "Nova-conductor performance issues" topic as I don't think klindgren is around16:26
DinaBelovaand also I suppose he did not have a chance to make some more dumps16:26
DinaBelovaso let's go to the osprofiler16:26
DinaBelova#topic OSProfiler weekly update16:26
DinaBelovaok, so frankly speaking I don't have some breaking news16:27
DinaBelovamy changes are on review16:27
DinaBelovaand I have several issues..16:27
DinaBelovathe most annoying is that when I'm enabling nova or keystone DB tracing16:27
DinaBelovasome of the wsgi/rpc points are absent from the trace tree16:27
* DinaBelova is very angly on that stuff16:28
DinaBelovaand I was able to find out that Ceilometer collectors receives these events16:28
DinaBelovabut some of them are lost during the writing to the Db16:28
DinaBelovaand no errors at all16:28
DinaBelovaif I'll change Ceilometer events publishing from the DB to simple file everything is ok16:29
DinaBelovabut is we're writing to the SQL-based DB....16:29
DinaBelovasome events info is lost16:29
DinaBelovaso I'm debugging that stuff...16:29
DinaBelovapretty much no news..16:29
DinaBelovaso if someone will try do the same I'll be really happy :D16:30
boris-42_DinaBelova: btw are you going to update your patches16:30
boris-42_DinaBelova: in osprofiler?16:30
boris-42_DinaBelova: so we will be able to merge them16:30
DinaBelovaboris-42_ - yes, I'm going to16:30
DinaBelovabut I want to find this issue16:31
DinaBelovaas it's pretty annoying16:31
DinaBelovaalso afair you, boris-42_ , said that you want see the trace with DB points to approve my changes :)16:31
DinaBelovaand this issue is separating me from this aim as well as your -1s :)16:31
boris-42_DinaBelova: ok16:32
DinaBelovaor am I wrong and you'll merge my changes if I'll just update them to our current vision without finding out whats going on to the events? :)16:32
DinaBelovaboris-42_^^ lol16:33
boris-42_DinaBelova: so seems like problem is not in osprofiler the problem is in ceilometer16:34
boris-42_DinaBelova: so we can merge those16:34
DinaBelovaor even in oslo.db 0_o16:34
DinaBelovaboris-42_ - ok16:34
DinaBelovaI'll update my changes asap16:34
boris-42_DinaBelova: not sure about oslo.db16:34
DinaBelovaboris-42_ - yeah, that looks pretty strange..16:34
boris-42_DinaBelova: btw I need to do sample patch in oslo.db and oslo.messaging16:34
boris-42_DinaBelova: so if oslo team will agree this time we will remove part of copy pasted from all projects16:35
DinaBelovaboris-42_ - a-ha, gotcha16:35
DinaBelovawill you be able to do that this week?16:35
DinaBelovaok, so let me hope you'll do that this week :)16:37
DinaBelovasome questions probably regarding osprofiler?16:37
DinaBelovaok, so it looks like we can proceed to the holidays topic :)16:39
DinaBelova#topic Last meeting?16:39
DinaBelovaI wanted to understand if we need to have more meetings before the NY16:39
andreykurilinboris-42_: rpodolyaka said that he dislike the way how we do profiling of sqlalchemy and he have ideas how it can be improved. Also he ready to contribute to osprofiler to fix db related stuff16:39
DinaBelovathe next Tuesday is Dec 22nd16:39
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - very cool16:40
DinaBelovarpodolyaka, you're welcome16:40
DinaBelovaandreykurilin, kun_huang, harlowja_ , mriedem, regXboi, boris-42_, Kristian_ - what do you think about holidays schedule?16:40
DinaBelovado we want this meeting to be the last one this year?16:41
mriedemyeah16:41
mriedemi guess, idk, doesn't matter to me really16:41
mriedemi'm not a crucial part of this meeting16:41
Kristian_<DinaBelova> i'm fine to have one more16:41
boris-42_andreykurilin: and what he disliked?16:41
andreykurilinboris-42_: I don't know the details16:41
DinaBelovaok, so it looks like we can move the holidays schedule to the email list16:42
boris-42_andreykurilin: it's really basic way to trace sql16:42
boris-42_=)16:42
DinaBelova#action DinaBelova send the email about IRC meetings schedule - let's define the last meeting this year and the first one in 201616:42
andreykurilinDinaBelova: as far as I understand, if thi meeting will be the last before the NY, the next one will be in one month. right?16:42
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - yeah, that's the issue16:42
DinaBelovabut some of the community teems already agreed it's ok16:43
DinaBelovatherefore I wanted to know if somebody is having the immediate opinion on this topic16:43
DinaBelovaalthough it looks like nothing too defined yet16:43
DinaBelovaso I'll send the email to openstack-dev and openstack-operators mailing list16:43
DinaBelovalet's find out if people are ok to have one more meeting this year and define the first date for 201616:44
AugieMenaDinaBelova:  i'm not a crucial part of this meeting either, but not having a meeting over the holidays (next two weeks) seems reasonable to me16:44
DinaBelovaok, cool16:44
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DinaBelovaAugieMena - ok, thanks! I'll list current opinions to the email as well16:45
AugieMenawould the first one in 2016 be on Jan 5?16:46
andreykurilinAugieMena: no16:46
DinaBelovaAugieMena - dunno yet... The issue is that in Russia we do not have X-mas holidays, but NY ones. So we'll be working these next 2 weeks, but we'll have 10 days after the NY16:47
regXboiDinaBelova: sorry - had people picking up donated furniture here - I'm out the next two weeks16:47
regXboiI can drop in if needed16:47
DinaBelovaregXboi, ok, thanks16:47
AugieMenaDinaBelova:  ah, makes sense16:47
DinaBelovaso it looks like lots of people won't be able to be 100% available next two weeks16:48
DinaBelovaso probably we need to finalize the 2016 date and that's it :)16:48
andreykurilinDinaBelova: and only Ukrainians works 2 weeks before NY, and the next days after New Year16:48
andreykurilineh16:48
DinaBelovathe most realistic date will be Jan 1216:48
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - I'm really sad you're having so small winder holidays period :(16:49
DinaBelova#info most probably today is the last meeting in 2015 (to be finalized in the email lists)16:49
DinaBelova#info most probably the Jan 12 will be first meeting in 2016 (to be finalized in the email lists)16:49
DinaBelovaok, very cool16:50
DinaBelovaanything else to add here?16:50
DinaBelovaok, cool16:51
DinaBelova#topic Open Discussion16:51
DinaBelovaprobably some other topics to be covered?16:51
DinaBelovaif nope, let's finish the meeting :)16:52
DinaBelovathanks everyone for coming :)16:53
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DinaBelova#endmeeting16:53
Kristian_only input i had for osprofiler is to additionally add support (or release timeframe) for integration with the following juno APIs: heat, glance, cinder and swift16:53
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Kristian_thanks16:53
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2015/performance_team.2015-12-15-16.00.html16:53
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2015/performance_team.2015-12-15-16.00.txt16:53
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2015/performance_team.2015-12-15-16.00.log.html16:53
DinaBelovaKristian_ - afair heat, cinder and glance are already supported16:54
Kristian_perfect then :)16:54
DinaBelova:)16:54
DinaBelovaswift is missed, yeah16:54
Kristian_just not swift16:54
Kristian_yup, unfortunately for obj storage- we're perf testing that w/ rally too16:55
Kristian_afaik, that will also be tested on the file I/O-intf level as well as API level for performance16:55
DinaBelovaKristian_ - yeah, I believe deeper analysis is really needed here. due to the syncs between swift rings members - that makes things pretty tricky16:56
Kristian_exactly- since that's the component that decided where data resides in a cluster16:56
andreykurilinDinaBelova: what about page at performance-docs with recommended tools for performance testing ? It can also contain info about statuses and covered projects(status of osprofiler integration)16:57
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - I have plans to fill it after most of the osprofiler changes will land16:57
DinaBelovaandreykurilin - otherwise I'll need to update it every day :D16:57
andreykurilinDinaBelova: everyday updates is a good for stats:)16:58
Kristian_thanks again DinaBelova16:59
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DinaBelovaandreykurilin - who cares for stats here :) we want to make efficient job, not effective16:59
andreykurilinDinaBelova: everyone cares about stats(more or less), except me. lol17:02
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openstackgerritLeontii Istomin proposed openstack/performance-docs: Test plan of provisioning systems.  https://review.openstack.org/25469320:02
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