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| liuyulong | Sorry, I'm late | 14:06 |
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| liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 18 14:06:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:06 |
| liuyulong | hi | 14:07 |
| liuyulong | #topic Announcements | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:07 | |
| liuyulong | I have no announcement today. | 14:08 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | So if you have, please go ahead. | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | OK, let's move on. | 14:09 |
| liuyulong | #topic Bugs | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:09 | |
| liuyulong | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-September/009361.html | 14:10 |
| liuyulong | Miguel sent this on Sunday. | 14:10 |
| liuyulong | First one from the deputy's mail: | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1843889 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1843889 in neutron "Windows: IPv6 tunnel endpoints" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Lucian Petrut (petrutlucian94) | 14:12 |
| haleyb | hi, i'm in two meetings at once though, will try and lurk here | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, the patch is OK, although we can't test it in the CI | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | Linux CI | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | btw, #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682031/ | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | Yes, thank you, patch is simple. But the bug is abit out of my scope honestly. :) | 14:13 |
| haleyb | i +W, looked good and they have been good at fixing this code | 14:15 |
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| liuyulong | You're one step ahead of me while you are attending two meetings. : ) | 14:16 |
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| liuyulong | Next | 14:17 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844168 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844168 in neutron "[L3] TooManyExternalNetworks: More than one external network exists." [Low,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | one question in your patch | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | you removed the router check | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | sorry, the link | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | IMO, this should be related to the external network removal. | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682418/ | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | once slaweq and Miguel have done some related work. | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | in this patch, you remove the router compatible check | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682418/4/neutron/agent/l3/agent.py@a639 | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | but I think you should retrieve the external network list (pfor this agent) | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | and then check if the router external network is there --> compatible/not compatible then | 14:19 |
| haleyb | i also can't remember removing an rpc, do we need to do that? | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | haleyb, this method should no be used anymore | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | because in case of having more than one ext netowkr, an exception will be thrown | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | but, now we should have something retrieving the ext network list | 14:21 |
| haleyb | it is used by bigswitch, and i didn't know how it would affect a mixed-version environment | 14:21 |
| liuyulong | hmm, I may revisit the history of this check. | 14:21 |
| liuyulong | L3 agent supports muiltple external networks, this check is abit strange | 14:22 |
| liuyulong | If it is not compatible, it should not be scheduled to that agent. But seems we not can't avoid that. | 14:23 |
| liuyulong | More interesting thing is if a router is scheduled to L3 agent without external_gateway_info, for instance HA router creation, the compatible check does not make any sense. | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | but you can check that there is no extneral_gw_info | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | but if you have, you should check the network ID and if this ext net belongs to this L3 agent | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | Then you set the external gateway info, but you may see no errors, but L3 agent just do nothing for this router update notification. | 14:28 |
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| slaweq | maybe we should now go quickly with smallest possible fir for this reported bug | 14:29 |
| slaweq | and later we can remove (or deprecate) some not used methods | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | +1 | 14:30 |
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| slaweq | liuyulong: is this bug happening all the time when there is more than one external network in Neutron? | 14:32 |
| liuyulong | Actually the get_external_network_id just get all external networks, it does not have any relationship of L3 agent. | 14:32 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, you can see the log search in the bug description. | 14:33 |
| slaweq | ok, that should have IMO higher priority and we should maybe target it for rc-1 | 14:33 |
| slaweq | what do You think? | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | I'm OK with it. | 14:34 |
| slaweq | I will ask mlavalle later about it also | 14:34 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, cool, IMO, it is related to this patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666409/ | 14:36 |
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| slaweq | liuyulong: yes, I'm pretty sure it is :) | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | We have another merged patch, also did such removal. | 14:37 |
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| liuyulong | OK, next one | 14:39 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844171 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844171 in neutron "Configuration parameter missing at "Configure the layer-3 agent"" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto) | 14:39 |
| liuyulong | Patch just get a +W from me. : ) | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | trivial patch IMO, +2 | 14:40 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682645/ (just in case) | 14:40 |
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| liuyulong | Next two are all related to IPv6: | 14:41 |
| slaweq | I also gave +2 :D | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844097 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844097 in neutron "Redundant ipv6 address(SLAAC/DHCPv6 stateless) created for port" [Undecided,New] | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844171 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844171 in neutron "Configuration parameter missing at "Configure the layer-3 agent"" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto) | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | #undo | 14:41 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844171 | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844123 | 14:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844123 in neutron "Unable to trigger IPv6 Prefix Delegation" [Undecided,New] | 14:42 |
| liuyulong | One can not get IPv6 address, but another just get two... | 14:42 |
| liuyulong | During our local testing, we tested the port creation in network with IPv4 and IPv6 subnets. | 14:44 |
| liuyulong | It works fine, the port will have only one IPv4 addr and one IPv6 addr. | 14:44 |
| ralonsoh | I don't understand https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1844097 | 14:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844097 in neutron "Redundant ipv6 address(SLAAC/DHCPv6 stateless) created for port" [Undecided,New] | 14:45 |
| liuyulong | From the bug description, seems they do not need that IPv6 address... | 14:45 |
| ralonsoh | but they are creating a port in a network with two subnets | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | ipv4 and ipv6 | 14:46 |
| liuyulong | They think the IPv6 address is "redundant". | 14:46 |
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| ralonsoh | what they are doing is defining the IPv4 one, but the ipv6 will be assigned automatically | 14:46 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll review this and comment in the bug | 14:46 |
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| liuyulong | Yes, maybe we can mark it as invalid. It is an feature. | 14:47 |
| liuyulong | OK, I remember another bug. | 14:48 |
| liuyulong | This https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1752903 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1752903 in neutron "Floating IPs should not allocate IPv6 addresses" [Medium,New] | 14:51 |
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| liuyulong | And I had a proposal for the port creation API once related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1797140 | 14:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1797140 in neutron "[RFE] create port by providing parameters subnet_id only" [Wishlist,Won't fix] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:52 |
| liuyulong | OK, that's all from me. | 14:53 |
| liuyulong | Time is running out... | 14:54 |
| liuyulong | #topic On demand agenda | 14:54 |
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| liuyulong | OK, continue with the IPv6. | 14:55 |
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| liuyulong | NetworkManager seems not work for the VM NICs, the configured IPv6 address is not same to the port IPv6 address. | 14:56 |
| liuyulong | Maybe bad settings. | 14:57 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: what do You mean exactly? | 14:57 |
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| slaweq | do You mean that instance have got different IPv6 configured with SLAAC/DHCPv6 instead of what is in Neutron's DB? | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | CentOS7 image's default NetworkManger is mis-configured. IMO | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, Yes | 14:58 |
| slaweq | https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/unstable/settings-ipv6.html | 14:58 |
| slaweq | it's "privacy extension" | 14:59 |
| slaweq | basically IPv6 is given to instance by router based on link local IP which is based on MAC address | 14:59 |
| slaweq | if this extension is enabled, request is done with some "fake" mac address thus router responds with wrong IP address | 15:00 |
| slaweq | if You change this setting in NetworkManager, it will work as expected | 15:00 |
| liuyulong | Yes, we are tunning the settings | 15:00 |
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| liuyulong | OK, let's stop here. | 15:02 |
| liuyulong | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 18 15:02:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-09-18-14.06.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-09-18-14.06.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-09-18-14.06.log.html | 15:02 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:02 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:02 |
| liuyulong | Bye | 15:02 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 18 16:00:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna tosky sfernand | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:01 |
| walshh_ | hi | 16:01 |
| e0ne_ | ho | 16:01 |
| e0ne_ | hi | 16:01 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 16:01 |
| raghavendrat | hi everyone | 16:01 |
| lseki | hi | 16:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:02 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ( ^_^)／ | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like we have the usual suspects here. | 16:02 |
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| tosky | o/ | 16:03 |
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| sfernand | hi | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Lets get started | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:04 | |
| jungleboyj | I didn't have anything in the etherpad but as I look I should announce that next week is RC-1 Target week. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | I am also noticing that I didn't get Feature Freeze for us into the schedule. | 16:05 |
| rajinir | o/ | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | So, I guess it is the wild west out there! | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | 🔫 | 16:05 |
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| rosmaita | (what is that?) | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Anyway, any features that need to go in the release need to be reviewed this week. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Squirt Gun? | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Closest thing I could find to represent wild west. :-) | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyway, Otherwise hopefully people have been testing Cinder and looking for bugs. | 16:07 |
| rosmaita | works for me, just didn't render very well in my client | 16:07 |
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| * jungleboyj looks at the Red Hat team. | 16:07 | |
| eharney | well i think i found one in my own feature, if that counts | 16:07 |
| sfernand | driver bug fix should also be merged until next week? | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | :-( I guess that is good. | 16:08 |
| e0ne_ | sfernand: yes | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | sfernand: Yes, driver bug fixes can be merged . | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Until we cut the RC. | 16:08 |
| lseki | jungleboyj: RC1 or final RC? | 16:09 |
| e0ne_ | lseki: RC | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | RC1, | 16:09 |
| rosmaita | with the RC, the stable branch for train will be cut, and from then on, only backports are allowed | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | Unless it is a critical bug. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | We are in overall feature freeze, so any features we want to land yet should have a FFE on the ML. | 16:09 |
| e0ne_ | lseki: after RC1 only critical bugfixes are allowed | 16:09 |
| lseki | e0ne_: got it, thanks! | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | We only need to add a Cinder specific feature freeze to the schedule if we want something earlier than the overall one. | 16:10 |
| sfernand | ack | 16:10 |
| lseki | jungleboyj, e0ne_: got it, thanks! | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. Glad I didn't mess that up. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | So any new features for drives need an FFE right now. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | *drivers | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | And we also have the hardware acceleration patches that should get an FFE now. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:11 |
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| raghavendrat | this is regarding adding Peer Persistence support feature in HPE 3PAR driver: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945 | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | walshh_: So I think you need to submit one for this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013 | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Same for yours raghavendrat | 16:12 |
| rosmaita | for the hw accel patch, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668825/ , does it require an email to the ML, or can we declare it OK here? | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | I am fine with getting it in but I think, officially, we need to have an e-mail. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | I defer to smcginnis though. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I can't find it documented anywhere. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I think the preference is to have it on the ML so there's a record, but if we just want to approve it here, at least this is recorded to reference later if need be. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | I like to keep things low overhead when we can. | 16:15 |
| rosmaita | i'm just asking because of the time zone, not sure zheng or liang are here | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So, I am ok with approving it here. I will review it after the meeting. | 16:15 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | Any objections? | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | I will take that as a no. | 16:17 |
| raghavendrat | can anyone please share email id of ML. i will send a mail requesting for review | 16:17 |
| rosmaita | openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah ... that. :-) | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Please don't send posts to the ML asking for reviews. Or do you mean asking for a feature freeze exception? I think that's covered here now. | 16:18 |
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| raghavendrat | thanks rosmaita: | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: May want to post something listing the features that have been given approval in this meeting though. | 16:18 |
| rosmaita | what smcginnis said, though | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: True. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, looking at raghavendrat his change is related to a bug. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think we are ok there. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Any objections? | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | The last one would be this one from walshh_ That she just pinged me about: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013 | 16:20 |
| raghavendrat | actually its new feature in HPE 3PAR; other drivers already have Peer Persistence | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | What is peer persistence? Replciation? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Sean already gave it a +2, so I think that is ok for an FFE? | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | *replication | 16:21 |
| raghavendrat | yes. Active Active replication | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | It is limited to their driver. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | CI is passing. | 16:23 |
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| jungleboyj | Have I lost everyone here? | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | 💣 💥 | 16:24 |
| e0ne_ | jungleboyj: sounds good to me to be merged | 16:24 |
| raghavendrat | right. its specific to HPE driver | 16:24 |
| rosmaita | no objection from me | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:25 |
| * jungleboyj laughs | 16:25 | |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So, I will send a note saying that the following patches are approved for FFEs: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673013 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668825 | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Team. Please review those to get them merged ASAP. | 16:26 |
| raghavendrat | pardon me. FFE means ? | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | No further FFEs after that. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Feature Freeze Exception | 16:26 |
| raghavendrat | thanks | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Welcome | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so that kind of covers the one topic in the agenda. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | raghavendrat: Further context, we are past this and now need explicit approval to merge anything that can be considered a feature - https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html#t-ff | 16:27 |
| raghavendrat | ok | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Trying to not destabilize the release at the last minute. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | So, the other topic for today. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Ranking the Forum Submissions | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ranking the Forum Submissions (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:28 | |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-shanghai-forum-proposals | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | thaks | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | or, thanks | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | we've got 3 topics proposed | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: are you willing to moderate your 2 topics? | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Sure, if you come help. :-) | 16:30 |
| rosmaita | great | 16:30 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: those are good topics :-) | 16:31 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will propose those 3 -- the upgrade check could easily be cross project, i will say that we would be happy to have it combined with other proposals on that topic | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Thank you. Hopefully we get some participation. | 16:31 |
| geguileo | yeah, fingers crossed | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 16:31 |
| rosmaita | does anyone have an objection to any of the topics? | 16:32 |
| rosmaita | (otherwise, i will assume approval) | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like we have decent support for them in the etherpad. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Ship it | 16:32 |
| rosmaita | great | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | 🚢 | 16:32 |
| rosmaita | i think we have some room, if the volume types gets rejected, we can combine it with the "crazy about cinder" session | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 16:33 |
| rosmaita | and i can't imagine we're the only people interested in the upgrade checker | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | I don't know that I have ever had a Forum session rejected. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | With this Summit, though, who knows! | 16:33 |
| rosmaita | hmmm ... you must be better connected than me, i have had a session rejected! | 16:34 |
| rosmaita | and have also been asked to combine sessions | 16:34 |
| rosmaita | :) | 16:34 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i'll get those proposed before the deadline | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Well, we will see how it goes. :-) | 16:34 |
| rosmaita | reminder: | 16:35 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-ptg-planning | 16:35 |
| rosmaita | please add topics if there are things you'd like to see discussed | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Nice to see we have 10 people planning to attend. | 16:36 |
| rosmaita | yes, that is cool | 16:36 |
| lseki | adding a topic there right now | 16:36 |
| rosmaita | great! | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Side note related to one of those topics - I think the TC is waiting for finalization of the CentOS 8 release date to see if we can use that as the official distro for Red Hat based platforms. If we need to stick with 7, that may throw a wrench (or spanner if you're one of those people) into the py3-only plan. | 16:37 |
| eharney | interesting | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | lseki: Would be great to know which options. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | We only every identified logging to start, but never went anywhere from there. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Partly because of an oslo bug that would just restart the service anyway. | 16:38 |
| lseki | smcginnis: yep, I'm gonna ask the customer about which options besides credentials | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Do we need to do anything more to fix that or is it all in Oslo? | 16:39 |
| bnemec | Note that that bug is now fixed. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | ^ | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | I haven't tested it, but with current upper-constraints theoretically it should all work now. | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: Cool. Thanks for pitching in. | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | I should try that at some point. | 16:40 |
| bnemec | Yeah, it's only been tested on Nova. Would be interested to know if it works for Cinder too. | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | bnemec: ++ | 16:41 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all from me ... we can move to open discussion | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:42 | |
| jungleboyj | Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like no? | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | nope | 16:47 |
| rosmaita | nothing from me | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677945/ | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Wrong link | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | https://gph.is/2c7tlDw | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Wake up people! | 16:47 |
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| geguileo | lol | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I guess we will wrap things up for today then. | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks for attending. Please try to review the remaining features that need to get in. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 16:49 |
| e0ne_ | see you next week! | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:49 | |
| smcginnis | Thanks | 16:49 |
| raghavendrat | thanks | 16:49 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 18 16:49:07 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-09-18-16.00.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-09-18-16.00.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-09-18-16.00.log.html | 16:49 |
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| zhengMa | Thanks team! | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Yep. Thanks everyone. | 16:49 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 18 21:01:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:01 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:02 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:02 |
| timburke | sounds like tdasilva and clayg are going to be a little late, but i think we could get started | 21:03 |
| timburke | agenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| timburke | quick reminder that we want to start collecting topics at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-shanghai | 21:04 |
| kota_ | sure | 21:04 |
| timburke | i'm as guilty as anyone of needing to put things on there. i feel like i've been running around without a chance to stop, think, and organize. i'll make sure i get to that this week | 21:05 |
| rledisez | timburke: I can help for Running Swift Cluster as you suggested. I'm just not sure what's expected (how long? slides needed?) | 21:05 |
| timburke | rledisez, i don't know either! i've never done this before ;-) | 21:06 |
| rledisez | lol, let's improvise then | 21:06 |
| kota_ | :-) | 21:06 |
| kota_ | needs help? | 21:06 |
| timburke | i'm also not sure how much interest there will be. yeah, improvisation will probably work best | 21:06 |
| tdasilva | Hello! | 21:07 |
| timburke | kota_, maybe? i'd had this thought that i might encourage newcomers to express what they're curious about with regard to swift and then have something of a lecture prepared, but... idk | 21:07 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: o/ | 21:08 |
| timburke | i think that would still be valuable, but given the lack of newcomers expressing an interest... i'm not sure that it's the best use of time | 21:08 |
| timburke | we'll see what happens | 21:09 |
| timburke | anyway, on to updates! | 21:09 |
| timburke | #topic py3 | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py3 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:09 | |
| timburke | i didn't get around to making a probe test job running under py3, sorry | 21:09 |
| timburke | (part of it was being out of town the last couple days | 21:10 |
| kota_ | needn't to say, sorry ;-) | 21:10 |
| timburke | but we've got a new py3 bug! https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1844368 | 21:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1844368 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "fallocate_reserve cannot be specified as a percentage running under python3" [High,Confirmed] | 21:11 |
| timburke | looks to be due to some changes in config parser -- sounds like tdasilva did a great job confirming the issue | 21:11 |
| timburke | i'd like to have it fixed for our train release (which is fast approaching!) but if needed, we can backport the fix | 21:12 |
| kota_ | hah, ConfigParser | 21:12 |
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| timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "lots of small files (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:13 | |
| rledisez | as alecuyer is not here i'll try to summarize what happened recently | 21:14 |
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| rledisez | rpc as http is merged in the feature branch | 21:14 |
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| kota_ | good | 21:14 |
| rledisez | we tried to deploy yesterday on production 2.22 + losf (with rpc http) + hashes.pkl support | 21:15 |
| rledisez | hashes.pkl to save some CPU | 21:15 |
| rledisez | we had to rollback, it seems introducing hashes.pkl introduced some random hangs in REPLICATE | 21:15 |
| rledisez | alecuyer is digging it | 21:15 |
| timburke | good to know | 21:16 |
| rledisez | next step for performance would probably to cache the list of partitions because it's seems it's very CPU intensive to list the partition | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | lol, you guys are cowboys.. just deploy to production.. nope doesn't work :P | 21:16 |
| rledisez | mattoliverau: i didn't say it all. just on one server at first. we go to prod by 1/10/100/1000 | 21:17 |
| rledisez | not so crazy cowboys :D | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | ahh, yeah makes much more sense :) | 21:17 |
| kota_ | that means, it would be compatible with grpc version??> | 21:17 |
| rledisez | kota_: what do you mean? | 21:18 |
| timburke | i think that part's internal to a particular object server, no? | 21:18 |
| timburke | from the proxy's perspective, the RPC mechanism shouldn't really matter, right? | 21:18 |
| kota_ | change one server from grpc to http, right? | 21:18 |
| rledisez | yes, the protocol between object-server (python) and the RPC server (golang). it was gRPC but due to eventlet, it's now HTTP protocol | 21:18 |
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| kota_ | oic | 21:19 |
| rledisez | so, it's totally transparent for anything else than the losf diskfile | 21:19 |
| timburke | (and similarly between two different object servers) | 21:19 |
| kota_ | yeah, and the index-sever stands for each node. | 21:19 |
| rledisez | kota_: exactly | 21:19 |
| kota_ | make sense. | 21:19 |
| timburke | i know we here at swiftstack did some performance testing, and darrell talked with alecuyer a bit about what we'd found... unfortunately i didn't keep a close eye on that conversation, but i think we weren't seeing *huge* improvements... | 21:21 |
| timburke | rledisez, i think darrell was talking with you; do you remember what the outcome on that was? if there was any idea on what our bottlenecks or bad configuration might be? | 21:22 |
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| rledisez | hum, I can't exactly remember. maybe darrell could start an etherpad with what you found and we'll check that and confirm or explain or answer | 21:24 |
| timburke | sounds good | 21:24 |
| clayg | did i miss anything exciting? | 21:24 |
| timburke | i also remember alecuyer mentioned he had some patches that needed proposing... do you think any of that might be because of the code delta between what's on the feature branch vs what you're actually running? | 21:24 |
| timburke | clayg, don't worry, i moved the versioning stuff down ;-) | 21:24 |
| rledisez | timburke: yes, we are (sadly) some patches ahead because we patch our prod first, but I think we are really close to the feature branch | 21:25 |
| rledisez | and the goal is to run the last stable + feature branch on our cluster | 21:25 |
| timburke | rledisez, that makes perfect sense -- take care of your herd ;-) | 21:26 |
| timburke | but i really *do* want ot be better about getting patches landed on the feature branch -- if you're *running it in prod*, that kinda sounds like a +2 to me ;-) | 21:26 |
| timburke | #topic sharding | 21:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:28 | |
| timburke | mattoliverau, i'm so sorry, i realy need to look at your patches! | 21:28 |
| mattoliverau | no stress, we have lot's going on :) | 21:28 |
| mattoliverau | I've pushed up https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681970/ | 21:29 |
| mattoliverau | which I hope addresses the cleaning up cleave context bug | 21:29 |
| timburke | remind me, do you have anyone running with sharded containers? or are you doing this just because sharding's kinda your baby? | 21:29 |
| timburke | i love that sense of ownership, but i also don't want you getting burnt out on it ;-) | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | our swift deployments tools (with my Suse hat on) doesn't support sharding, in fact they a little behind. | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | It's something I want to fix. But suse doesn't make swift a priority other then giving me some time on it upstream | 21:31 |
| timburke | are there other things that Suse would like to see in swift? bugs fixed, features added? | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | So one day. In essence. I just know the code really well and feel responsible for bugs ;) | 21:32 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: that's super interesting! I didn't realize the tons of headers bug was about not reaping old contexts?! | 21:32 |
| timburke | what can i do to get you something you can show your boss to say, "hey, swift's valuable for us"? :-) | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, I wish I knew. Suse just "support" it as apart of OpenStack. They really go out and sell SES to customers with large storage issues. | 21:33 |
| timburke | might also be outside the scope of this meeting, but i wanted to mention it ;) | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | I'll been vocal about certain use cases as they come up internally. And always put a how cool Swift would be for that.. so I'm working on the inside :) | 21:34 |
| timburke | 👍 thanks for that | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | If I can push the internal deployment tools forward. Just waiting for the customer who wants something big that Ceph can't handle ;P | 21:35 |
| timburke | anyway. i'll try to get those patches reviewed. thanks for all your hard work! | 21:36 |
| timburke | #topic versioning | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "versioning (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:36 | |
| mattoliverau | Anyway. Got some sharding patches up for bugs. Haven't worked on autosharding much. I should play with that some more. comments on the current implemenatino welcome. | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | onto versioning! | 21:36 |
| timburke | clayg, tdasilva, take it away ;-) | 21:37 |
| clayg | so after a false start trying to expand versioned_writes to work with s3api aws object versioning feature... | 21:37 |
| clayg | we decided to expand versioned_writes to work with s3api aws object versioning feature! | 21:38 |
| clayg | only this time with a for-realzy new swift object versioning api that works a lot more like aws s3 object versioning | 21:38 |
| clayg | tdasilva: is working on that - and I'm sure lots of docs and func tests will be coming to flush that out and describe how we think it should work so we can start to get some feedback | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | so this is the WIP patch? | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682382 | 21:39 |
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| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/682382 | 21:40 |
| patchbot | patch 682382 - swift - WIP: New Object Versioning mode - 2 patch sets | 21:40 |
| clayg | there's a couple sticking points on the implementation side where there might be some lack of system/storage level features make for less than ideal strategies; so we're experimenting with some different things | 21:40 |
| timburke | better :-) | 21:40 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: correct | 21:40 |
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| clayg | so there's lot to talk about that... and looking down the road maybe some discussion about different things we might do with s3api while that work is ongoing | 21:41 |
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| clayg | probably worth noting that symlink based versoinsing is still a good idea - but there's some other things in the legacy versioned writes mode(s) that were problematic and it seems better for clients/consumers to just offer a new shiny | 21:43 |
| clayg | we've been throwing around the anlogy of DLOs vs. SLOs - but with the idea that maybe if the alternative implementation is really significantly better (and easier for s3 consumers to adopt) we might eventually "sunset" legacy mode | 21:44 |
| clayg | but really we're mostly focused on getting an object versioning implementation in swift that is amazing and we can build on for the next decade' | 21:44 |
| timburke | fwiw, i'm starting to collect some of the design discussion currently happening internally at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-object-versioning | 21:45 |
| mattoliverau | oh nice | 21:45 |
| timburke | because it'll be so much better if mattoliverau and kota_ and rledisez can see what we're thinking and offer feedback on it :-) | 21:45 |
| clayg | timburke: thanks for getting up - we can definately help flesh that out as we go | 21:45 |
| mattoliverau | clayg: +1 re: amazing versioning is a good focus | 21:45 |
| kota_ | oh, what, sorry, I'm looking another thing. | 21:46 |
| mattoliverau | I'll take a look at the patch today too to get an idea of where things are at. | 21:46 |
| timburke | kota_, no worries :-) we just always appreciate your insights | 21:47 |
| kota_ | good to know for the versioning | 21:47 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-object-versioning | 21:47 |
| mattoliverau | just linking it so it's easy to find in the minutes later | 21:47 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: we already got at least one new primative (static links,) out of the deal - I'm hoping we get at least one more before we're thorugh | 21:47 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: sorry for the lack of docs for the moment | 21:47 |
| * kota_ is in U.S. timezone actually to join another meeting | 21:47 | |
| mattoliverau | ie. when I loose the link :P | 21:47 |
| clayg | I'm sure we could sketch out some stuff on the etherpad that eventually ends up looking like some documentation | 21:48 |
| mattoliverau | no stress guys. y'all doing awesome :) | 21:48 |
| kota_ | there are good items for improvement consideration in the etherpad | 21:49 |
| clayg | timburke: I think that's all we got this week - but I'll commit to helping work on that etherpad | 21:49 |
| timburke | sounds good | 21:49 |
| timburke | oh, one more last minute topic! | 21:50 |
| timburke | #topic train release | 21:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "train release (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:50 | |
| clayg | CHOO CHOO! | 21:50 |
| timburke | in two weeks or so, i want to be tagging a 2.23.0 for train | 21:50 |
| mattoliverau | we should call it, train departure :P | 21:50 |
| clayg | ship it, ship it, ship it, shipit, shipitshipitshipit CHOOO CHOOOO | 21:50 |
| mattoliverau | rofl | 21:51 |
| mattoliverau | timburke: so maybe a new priority review section | 21:51 |
| timburke | please add items to the priority reviews page as you see fit -- i'll make sure i add a release section at the top (and in general clean it up) | 21:51 |
| timburke | mattoliverau, yeah, that :-) | 21:51 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:51 | |
| timburke | anything else we ought to talk about? | 21:52 |
| clayg | shanghai? | 21:53 |
| timburke | can't wait! | 21:53 |
| clayg | is there a who's coming list already? | 21:53 |
| kota_ | <- whole week | 21:54 |
| timburke | still need to get my travel sorted, though... and make a state of swift talk | 21:54 |
| clayg | kota_: AWESOME!!! | 21:54 |
| clayg | i'm just trying to learn how to visa | 21:54 |
| rledisez | for the record, alex and I have our PTG tickets and plane tickets. we are now trying to get VISA (which is a bit complex for french people). we hope to get them in time | 21:54 |
| kota_ | hehe, I don't need VISA for shanghai | 21:55 |
| timburke | clayg, according to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-shanghai, it's the five of us: you, me, kota_, rledisez, and alecuyer | 21:55 |
| clayg | #dreamteam | 21:55 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: ??? 😢 | 21:55 |
| mattoliverau | me never got the OK, but here others at SUSE are applying for visa's so assume it's not happening. I should go confirm with my manager (whose been away and then away at training) | 21:56 |
| mattoliverau | :( | 21:56 |
| timburke | :-( | 21:56 |
| mattoliverau | annoying because it's _very_ close to my timezone. | 21:56 |
| kota_ | :( | 21:56 |
| clayg | ahahha! true! maybe one of the easier plane rides for you for a change! | 21:57 |
| mattoliverau | so I would have thought I'd be cheaper to send too. | 21:57 |
| clayg | hahahah | 21:57 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:57 |
| timburke | if nothing else, it'll be nice to have more overlap with you mattoliverau :-) | 21:57 |
| mattoliverau | yeah,lets see what can get through the great firewall of china.. but I hope to be there virtually :) | 21:57 |
| clayg | we'll have to think about how to dial you in; if you can't make it you'll be missed - until the next one! | 21:57 |
| clayg | yeah i'm *nervous* about the tech/equipment/network stuff 😬 | 21:58 |
| timburke | i wonder where it'll be... | 21:58 |
| timburke | clayg, yeah, me too. | 21:58 |
| rledisez | clayg: we got special recommendation from our SOC team… | 21:58 |
| mattoliverau | probably denver :P | 21:58 |
| timburke | mattoliverau, sounds right :P | 21:58 |
| timburke | all right, i think i'm gonna call it | 21:58 |
| kota_ | denver :/ | 21:59 |
| clayg | "soc" is that a french acronym? | 21:59 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:59 |
| rledisez | security operation center i think | 21:59 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: probably not. Just joking | 21:59 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 18 21:59:27 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-09-18-21.01.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-09-18-21.01.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-09-18-21.01.log.html | 21:59 |
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