Thursday, 2018-12-20

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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 20 15:01:54 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:01
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda15:02
gagehugoping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot15:03
redrobot🙋🏽‍♂️15:03
fungiohai15:04
gagehugoo/15:04
gagehugoprobably will be a quick meeting15:05
gagehugoredrobot fungi: any updates?15:06
gagehugoI was going to cancel the meeting for next week15:06
gagehugoand potentially the week after15:06
fungithere's been a cve assigned for that keystone security hardening opportunity15:07
gagehugofungi: yes15:07
fungi#link https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-2017015:07
gagehugowe discussed potential changes to make on Monday15:07
gagehugolemme grab a link15:07
fungii disagree with the dispute detail in there, but it was filed by the bug reporter since the vmt doesn't acquire cve assignments for things it doesn't have immediate plans to issue an ossa for15:08
fungii've left some follow-up comments in the bug report to that effect15:08
gagehugoyeah15:08
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1795800 Timing oracle in core auth plugin simplifies brute-forcing usernames15:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1795800 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Timing oracle in core auth plugin simplifies brute-forcing usernames" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Gage Hugo (gagehugo)15:09
gagehugofungi: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2018-12-17.log.html#t2018-12-17T20:03:4115:09
gagehugo#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2018-12-17.log.html#t2018-12-17T20:03:4115:09
redrobotOnly update from me is we've been working on adding Barbican + HSM support to TripleO15:09
funginice!15:10
redrobot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:add_hsm_parameters15:10
gagehugotl;dr I think the general consensus is to explore a flask hook to make the timings more similar between immediately spitting back an unauthorized vs valid username15:10
fungiredrobot: is that focused on the operations end, or for providing access to hsms from guest instances?15:11
redrobotfungi, focused on adding support for deploying Barbican on the Overcloud with an HSM as the backend.15:11
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fungiahh15:11
fungii know some in the cyborg team expressed an interest in being able to schedule hsm hardware passed through to guests, but that's a whole different can of worms15:12
gagehugointeresting15:12
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gagehugoredrobot fungi: you both ok with canceling the next two weeks meetings?15:18
redrobotgagehugo, works for me.15:18
gagehugoand picking back up on the 10th15:18
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fungiyeah, that seems reasonable15:19
fungii'll be around on the 27th and 3rd but i don't see much point in meeting if nobody else will be15:19
gagehugook15:21
gagehugoI should be around on the 3rd, but I figured there (likely) wouldn't be much going on15:22
gagehugofungi redrobot: thanks for coming! have a happy holidays and happy new year!15:22
redrobotgagehugo, thank you!  same to you! :D15:22
gagehugo:D15:22
gagehugo#endmeeting15:23
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fungithanks for chairing gagehugo!15:23
gagehugo:)15:23
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eumel8#startmeeting openstack_i18n_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 20 16:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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eumel8Hello16:00
eumel8Welcome to I18n team meeting16:00
eumel8if anyone is there ;)16:00
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pkovarhello16:03
eumel8hello pkovar16:03
eumel8the one and only :)16:04
pkovarthe one yes16:05
pkovari guess it's the time of the year lo leave computers behind and go enjoy the xmas markets eh16:05
eumel8very good16:06
eumel8I want to push forward that I can move at home16:06
eumel8#topic Storyboard translation available16:06
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eumel8#link https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/storyboard16:06
eumel8I've wrote just a message on the I18n ML16:07
jpicho/16:07
eumel8we have storyboard translation in place on Zanata16:07
pkovarjpich: hola16:07
eumel8hi jpich16:07
jpichhello16:07
diablo_rojo_phonThank you eumel8 from the SB team for getting that moving :)16:07
eumel8And I asked for translation that few stuff. If we  have enough languages then we can import that to the board16:08
eumel8diablo_rojo_phon: you're welcome :)16:08
eumel8I would also try a kind of test installation to see how it works16:09
eumel8I think thats all for that topic for the moment16:10
eumel8#topic CFP Open Infrastructure Summit Denver16:10
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eumel8#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations16:11
eumel8CfP is open for the next Summit (I can't believe it).16:11
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eumel8pkovar: some ideas for presentations or workshops?16:12
pkovarbesides what we did in previous events?16:12
pkovarmaybe we need a new format but i can't think of anything atm16:12
pkovarour area is very specific16:13
pkovarbut i guess ops stuff will still gather audience16:13
eumel8pkovar: yeah, something new format. I visited also some Forum sessions in Berlin Summit. But I had no idea for our topics16:13
eumel8thats true16:13
eumel8We have the Ops guide also in the Storyboard now. Maybe to teach some people how that can work16:14
pkovari like that16:15
eumel8would also to think about it in the next free days16:18
pkovarthere will be time yes16:19
eumel8#topic Open Discussion16:19
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eumel8so ,thats all from the agenda16:19
pkovarokay, thanks eumel8 for running the meeting16:21
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eumel8thx for coming and merry christmas, jpich, pkovar :)16:23
jpichTo you as well :)16:23
pkovarmerry xmas16:23
eumel8#endmeeting16:23
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pkovar#startmeeting docteam16:30
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pkovar#topic roll call16:30
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pkovarwho's around to discuss all things docs16:30
pkovar?16:30
eumel8o/16:31
eumel8some minutes :)16:31
pkovar#topic open floor16:31
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pkovarnothing on our agenda in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting16:31
pkovari see quite  a few patches pending review in https://is.gd/openstackdocsdashboard16:32
pkovarso if you can help out everybody16:32
pkovaralso, if you want to help with bug triaging16:32
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pkovareumel8: anything we want to cover?16:33
eumel8pkovar: no, all that small kind of patches16:33
pkovarthat's right16:34
pkovareven though small patches can still break stuff right before xmas hehe16:34
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eumel8pkovar: true, but they are a lot of very small changes in docs, often only one sign16:35
pkovaryeah we keep getting those tiny patches all the time16:36
eumel8on the one hand nice catches, on the other hand lots of changes16:36
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pkovartrue16:36
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pkovarshall we close?16:39
eumel8yes, please :)16:39
pkovarhappy new year to everybody etc.16:39
pkovarthanks for joining eumel816:40
eumel8yes, happy new year, pkovar :)16:40
pkovarsee you around :)16:40
pkovar#endmeeting16:40
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jpichHappy new year and all :)16:40
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mriedem#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 20 21:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
mriedemis anyone around?21:00
takashino/21:00
mriedemmight just be us21:01
alex_xuo/21:01
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mriedemearly birds21:01
jackdingo/21:01
luyaoo/21:01
mriedemok let's get started - i haven't updated the agenda, but:21:01
mriedem#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova21:01
mriedem#topic release news21:01
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mriedem#link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule21:01
mriedemreminder that spec freeze is jan 1021:01
mriedem#link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein21:02
mriedemthere are currently two blueprints in runways21:02
mriedem1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bandwidth-resource-provider [END 2018-12-24]21:02
mriedemthere is also a ML thread about that one21:02
mriedem#link min bw provider ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/thread.html#112921:02
mriedemthe other run way item is21:03
mriedem2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/local-disk-serial-numbers [END 2019-01-10]21:03
mriedem^ was in runways before but did not get reviews21:03
mriedemquestions about release news? most people in the US and EU are out next week21:03
mriedem#topic bugs21:04
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mriedem0 critical bugs21:04
mriedem#link 63 new untriaged bugs (up 9 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New21:04
mriedem#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:04
mriedemthe gate has been better this week, code is merging21:04
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mriedem#link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:04
mriedemI don't have any news for 3rd party CI.21:05
mriedemany questions about bugs?21:05
mriedem#topic reminders21:05
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mriedem#link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking21:05
mriedem#link Spec freeze/non-priority blueprint freeze is s-2 January 10, 201921:05
mriedemoh also,21:05
mriedem#link melwitt email and etherpad about tracking spec reviews before the freeze http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/001136.html21:06
mriedemtrying to organize some of the specs before the freeze21:06
mriedem#topic stable branch status21:06
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mriedem#info rocky, queens and pike releases were done this week21:06
mriedem#link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z21:06
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mriedem#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:07
mriedem#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:07
mriedemsince we just did stable branch releases we won't have another one until january some time, but we still have quite a few open reviews21:07
mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:07
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mriedemI don't know if we have any subteams around.21:07
mriedemalex_xu: do you have anything for API?21:07
alex_xuno, we don't have office hour this week21:08
mriedemok21:08
mriedemi don't think there is much news with scheduler except kolla is making progress on adopting extracted placement21:08
mriedem#topic stuck reviews21:08
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mriedemi have one item on here21:09
mriedem#link per-instance live migration timeout/action http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/001112.html21:09
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mriedemi am mostly looking for feedback on that email before making any changes to the spec21:09
mriedemi brought it up in the public cloud sig meeting today and there was general support for it21:09
mriedemalex_xu: since that one is about the API you might have input21:10
mriedemany other stuck reviews?21:10
mriedem#topic open discussion21:10
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mriedemwe have some items in the agenda21:10
mriedem#link persistent-memory specs review  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601596/21:11
mriedemReview revealed two resource tracking approaches. Need further discussion on community preference.21:11
rui-zangyes21:11
mriedem#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62289321:11
mriedemrui-zang: go ahead21:11
rui-zangBasically need more review21:11
rui-zangand need consensus one the preference21:11
mriedemcan you summarize those?21:11
mriedemmight be better in the mailing list21:12
mriedemgiven the low attendance in this meeting this week21:12
rui-zangSure21:12
mriedemrui-zang: thanks. i have not gone through those myself so summarizing the different approaches and pros/cons of each in the mailing list would be helpful for those coming into it fresh.21:13
rui-zangI was hoping Mr. Jay Pipes would give is opinion and second review21:13
rui-zangmriedem: thanks, will go mailing list21:13
mriedemok moving on21:13
mriedemjackding: cpu-model-selection spec review21:13
mriedem#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620959/21:14
jackdingjust need more review. I had a typo fix after alex's +221:14
mriedemheh, a word of advice,21:14
mriedemif you have a +2 and there is a typo, just fix that in a follow up :)21:14
mriedemalex_xu: you want to look at ^ again?21:15
alex_xuyes21:15
mriedemi'll try to take a look at it yet this week before i'm gone21:15
jackdingwhat is a follow up?21:15
mriedemjackding: a new change on top in the series21:15
mriedemseparate patches21:15
jackdingok got it21:15
mriedemjackding: you again,21:16
mriedem#link flavor-extra-spec-image-property-validation spec review  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618542/21:16
alex_xujackding: avoid the +2 disappear :)21:16
jackdingjaypipes asked for some examples and we added, need his opinion21:16
jackdingalex_xu: will do next time21:17
mriedemok i haven't gone through that one lately in detail, but it is by no means an exhaustive list of supported image properties and extra specs, correct?21:17
jackdingthat's right, exact details need to be work out during implementation21:18
mriedemok21:18
mriedemthis one is quite nebulous21:18
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mriedemok anything else?21:19
mriedemalright let's end the meeting. thanks for coming so early in your day. see you in january.21:19
mriedem#endmeeting21:19
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Dec 20 21:19:45 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:19
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-20-21.00.html21:19
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-20-21.00.txt21:19
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-12-20-21.00.log.html21:19
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