Thursday, 2018-10-11

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fungiif anyone's looking for the security-sig meeting, gagehugo isn't around today and i don't really have much to report (plus in the middle of heated debate in tc office hour), so i suggest we skip this week unless someone has something to bring up and wants to chair15:14
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nickthetaitsure15:16
nickthetaitskipping is OK15:16
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melwitt#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 11 21:00:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
takashino/21:00
dansmitho.21:00
melwittgood afternoon everyone21:00
mriedemo/21:00
melwittjust us? ok21:01
cfriesen\o21:01
melwitt#topic Release News21:01
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melwitt#link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule21:01
edleafe\o21:01
efriedō/21:01
melwittmilestone 1 s-1 is on Oct 2521:02
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melwittwe're doing spec freeze at s-2 Jan 10 next year21:02
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melwittbut still, now is a good time to be reviewing specs and I see lots of reviewers doing that (GOOD!)21:02
melwittlots of new specs being proposed too, so keep an eye out21:03
melwitt#link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein21:03
melwitt#link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend (brinzhang)[END:2018-10-14] starts at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60468721:03
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melwittwe need more review on this one ^ as it's ending soon21:03
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melwittmriedem has tested it with devstack and it works21:04
mriedemi'm fixing up the busted tests21:04
mriedemshould be done shortly21:04
melwittawesome21:04
melwittthanks for doing that21:04
melwittnext runway, part 2 of nested-allocation-candidates21:05
melwitt#link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-nested-allocation-candidates (gibi) [END: 2018-10-23] next patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60578521:05
melwittand finally, gmann has some api extension merge work ready21:05
melwitt#link runway #3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-stein (gmann) [END: 2018-10-25] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-extensions-merge-stein+status:open21:05
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melwittanything else or any questions about release related stuff?21:06
melwittoh, I just remembered21:06
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melwittI proposed a patch for stein priorities here https://review.openstack.org/609807 for our cycle themes21:06
melwittreviews appreciated21:06
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melwittok, anything else before we move on?21:07
melwitt#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)21:07
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melwittno critical bugs in the link21:07
melwitt#link 61 new untriaged bugs (down 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New21:07
melwittchipping away slowly at the new bugs21:07
melwittthanks to all who have been helping out21:07
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melwittkeep it up!21:08
melwitt#link 6 untagged untriaged bugs (down 15 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW21:08
melwittshoutout to takashin for doing a lot of bug tagging21:08
melwitt#link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags21:08
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melwittplease help triage bugs with tags you have some knowledge n21:08
melwitt*in21:08
melwitt#help need help with bug triage21:09
melwittGate status21:09
melwitt#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:09
melwittI've seen a lot of timeouts21:09
melwittOverall Categorization Rate: 64.7%21:09
melwittfor unclassified failed integrated gate jobs21:10
melwitt3rd party CI21:10
melwitt#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:10
melwittanyone have anything to talk about bugs or gate status or third party CI?21:10
melwitt#topic Reminders21:11
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melwitt#link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking21:11
melwittye olde etherpad21:11
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melwittI think that's all I have for reminders. anyone else have reminders to add?21:11
melwitt#topic Stable branch status21:12
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melwitt#link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z21:12
melwitt#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:12
melwitt#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:12
melwitt#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z21:12
melwittwe recently had a big push to clear out stable reviews to cut ocata-em21:12
mriedemoh i guess ocata-em finally went through21:13
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/608296/21:13
mriedemoh i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609026/21:13
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mriedem#thanks dhellmann for sorting out -em release tooling21:13
melwittindeed21:13
melwittthanks mriedem for driving ocata-em for us21:14
mriedemright off the cliff21:14
melwitthaha21:14
melwittI see we've a lot of stable reviews that have appeared after the flush, so there's more to review21:14
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melwittthat's all I have for stable branch status. anyone have anything else?21:15
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melwitt#topic Subteam Highlights21:15
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melwittcells v2, we removed the recurring meeting from openstack meetings since we canceled the meeting more often than we had it21:16
dansmith\o/21:16
melwittI've got a patch proposed for fixing the nova-consoleauth situation that will need to be backported to rocky https://review.openstack.org/60706821:17
melwittthat's related to the per cell console proxy work from rocky21:17
melwittanything else to highlight dansmith, mriedem?21:17
dansmithmeh21:17
melwittalrighty21:17
melwittscheduler, efried?21:17
efriedyeaux21:18
efried#link NovaScheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-08-14.00.html21:18
efriedDiscussed the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing, which led to21:18
efried#link ML post about the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135551.html21:18
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efried#link Spec: drop the `force` flag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609330/21:18
efried#link Reworked patch for nrp migration/evacuate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605785/21:18
efriedExtraction: upgrade work is getting close21:18
efriedTalked about21:18
efried#link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/21:18
efriedin favor of21:18
efried#link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to keep https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552105/21:18
efriedAnd more talk (but not more movement) about customizing provider attributes by extracting the yaml file format aspects of21:18
efried#link device passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/21:18
efriedEND21:18
melwittcoolness. glad the allocation ratio issue is getting sorted21:19
melwittthanks all who are helping with that21:19
mriedemi think,21:19
mriedemthe allocation ratio specs are still...21:20
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mriedemyikun is going to be working the initial allocation ratio config one,21:20
mriedemwhich everyone agrees on,21:20
melwittguh, really? I thought we had a plan at the PTG. a guess some snag was hit21:20
mriedemthe other one is about proxying allocation ratios from the compute api to the placement api21:20
mriedemand *that* spec is all sorts of old21:20
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mriedemand i'm not sure we all agree that proxying is cool21:20
mriedemalthough i'm sure users would prefer that21:21
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melwittwhat we talked about at the ptg didn't involve proxying, I didn't think21:21
mriedemanywho, the proxy spec is lower priority at this point given people can do things with the placement API directly21:21
mriedemi don't remember talking about the proxy aspect of that in denver,21:21
mriedembut we did in dublin21:21
dansmithyup21:21
mriedemas an osc placement CLI helper21:21
mriedemthen that turned into a proxy API thing in the nova spec somehow21:21
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melwitturgh ok21:22
mriedemanyway,21:22
sean-k-mooneymriedem: the proxying behavior wont effect the config part however correct so that effort can still continue21:22
mriedemi've told yikun to work on the config option one first,21:22
mriedemand we'll deal with the proxy thing later21:22
melwittok21:22
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melwittmoving on, no from gibi for notifications. the weekly meeting was canceled indefinitely about a week ago, so maybe I'm supposed to remove the notification subteam section21:23
melwitt*no notes21:23
melwittand gmann left a API subteam weekly update21:24
melwitt#link API subteam weekly update http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135673.html21:24
melwittanyone have anything else for subteams?21:24
melwitt#topic Stuck Reviews21:24
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melwittno items in the agenda. anyone in the room have something for stuck reviews?21:25
melwitt#topic Open discussion21:25
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melwittI think this first item might be from last week21:25
melwittHPET support on x86 guests: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-hpet-on-guest21:25
cfriesenyeah, I think that's left over21:25
melwittthat has a spec, so review is going on in the spec21:25
melwittthanks cfriesen21:26
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melwittnext agenda item is21:26
melwittAdd support for emulated virtual TPM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57111121:26
jackdingI just uploaded a new change to the spec, though not quite complete21:26
melwittok jackding, thanks21:26
cfriesenso I think the TPM one is basically ready for review.  we've got agreement on the trait names21:26
cfriesensean-k-mooney has given +1 on the technical side21:26
melwittah, ok. so this is a heads up that this spec is ready-for-review21:27
cfriesenyes21:27
melwittcool21:27
melwittI have one thing I wanted to mention briefly21:27
melwitt#link rocky RC time regression analysis http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135494.html21:27
melwittI went through the bugs we experienced during RC time last cycle and captured some info about why they weren't caught earlier, etc21:28
melwitttrying to see if any of it was related to the later spec freeze at milestone 221:28
melwittit didn't seem to me that any of it was related, fwiw21:28
melwittit looks like we might be able to enhance our test coverage a bit to cover some of the gaps that allowed the regressions in (thanks for the reply mriedem)21:29
melwittas for what we can do going forward, there isn't a clear answer. but I was thinking maybe it would help to do a shoutout to the dev and ops lists after we cut the milestone 3 release and encourage people to try it out21:30
melwittbecause nearly all the bugs found were from people trying out RC1, I think21:30
melwittif you have any thoughts about it, feel free to reply on the thread. thanks21:30
melwittok, does anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss in open discussion?21:31
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend+(status:open+OR+status:merged) is ready to go (i've fixed up the false positives in the tests)21:31
dansmithI have to go do a thing when we're done here but will try to hit those when I get back21:31
dansmithre-hit them21:32
mriedemi will sound the wechat alarm once approved21:32
melwitthaha21:32
melwittnice work on all that, awesome to get it done so early in the cycle21:32
dansmithfin?21:32
melwittok, if that's all for today, we shall wrap up21:32
melwittthanks everyone21:32
melwitt#endmeeting21:32
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