21:00:18 <melwitt> #startmeeting nova
21:00:19 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Oct 11 21:00:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'nova'
21:00:28 <takashin> o/
21:00:32 <dansmith> o.
21:00:37 <melwitt> good afternoon everyone
21:00:44 <mriedem> o/
21:01:28 <melwitt> just us? ok
21:01:30 <cfriesen> \o
21:01:37 <melwitt> #topic Release News
21:01:45 <melwitt> #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule
21:01:46 <edleafe> \o
21:01:48 <efried> ō/
21:02:04 <melwitt> milestone 1 s-1 is on Oct 25
21:02:31 <melwitt> we're doing spec freeze at s-2 Jan 10 next year
21:02:51 <melwitt> but still, now is a good time to be reviewing specs and I see lots of reviewers doing that (GOOD!)
21:03:20 <melwitt> lots of new specs being proposed too, so keep an eye out
21:03:35 <melwitt> #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein
21:03:43 <melwitt> #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend (brinzhang)[END:2018-10-14] starts at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604687
21:03:56 <melwitt> we need more review on this one ^ as it's ending soon
21:04:18 <melwitt> mriedem has tested it with devstack and it works
21:04:24 <mriedem> i'm fixing up the busted tests
21:04:28 <mriedem> should be done shortly
21:04:33 <melwitt> awesome
21:04:50 <melwitt> thanks for doing that
21:05:05 <melwitt> next runway, part 2 of nested-allocation-candidates
21:05:07 <melwitt> #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-nested-allocation-candidates (gibi) [END: 2018-10-23] next patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605785
21:05:27 <melwitt> and finally, gmann has some api extension merge work ready
21:05:28 <melwitt> #link runway #3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-extensions-merge-stein (gmann) [END: 2018-10-25] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-extensions-merge-stein+status:open
21:06:02 <melwitt> anything else or any questions about release related stuff?
21:06:15 <melwitt> oh, I just remembered
21:06:33 <melwitt> I proposed a patch for stein priorities here https://review.openstack.org/609807 for our cycle themes
21:06:39 <melwitt> reviews appreciated
21:07:05 <melwitt> ok, anything else before we move on?
21:07:13 <melwitt> #topic Bugs (stuck/critical)
21:07:25 <melwitt> no critical bugs in the link
21:07:32 <melwitt> #link 61 new untriaged bugs (down 4 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
21:07:43 <melwitt> chipping away slowly at the new bugs
21:07:57 <melwitt> thanks to all who have been helping out
21:08:04 <melwitt> keep it up!
21:08:12 <melwitt> #link 6 untagged untriaged bugs (down 15 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW
21:08:26 <melwitt> shoutout to takashin for doing a lot of bug tagging
21:08:42 <melwitt> #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags
21:08:56 <melwitt> please help triage bugs with tags you have some knowledge n
21:08:58 <melwitt> *in
21:09:05 <melwitt> #help need help with bug triage
21:09:09 <melwitt> Gate status
21:09:14 <melwitt> #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html
21:09:23 <melwitt> I've seen a lot of timeouts
21:09:48 <melwitt> Overall Categorization Rate: 64.7%
21:10:06 <melwitt> for unclassified failed integrated gate jobs
21:10:17 <melwitt> 3rd party CI
21:10:23 <melwitt> #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days
21:10:42 <melwitt> anyone have anything to talk about bugs or gate status or third party CI?
21:11:05 <melwitt> #topic Reminders
21:11:11 <melwitt> #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking
21:11:15 <melwitt> ye olde etherpad
21:11:52 <melwitt> I think that's all I have for reminders. anyone else have reminders to add?
21:12:06 <melwitt> #topic Stable branch status
21:12:13 <melwitt> #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z
21:12:28 <melwitt> #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z
21:12:40 <melwitt> #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z
21:12:45 <melwitt> #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z
21:12:58 <melwitt> we recently had a big push to clear out stable reviews to cut ocata-em
21:13:05 <mriedem> oh i guess ocata-em finally went through
21:13:05 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608296/
21:13:16 <mriedem> oh i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609026/
21:13:28 <mriedem> #thanks dhellmann for sorting out -em release tooling
21:13:30 <melwitt> indeed
21:14:05 <melwitt> thanks mriedem for driving ocata-em for us
21:14:14 <mriedem> right off the cliff
21:14:20 <melwitt> haha
21:14:53 <melwitt> I see we've a lot of stable reviews that have appeared after the flush, so there's more to review
21:15:22 <melwitt> that's all I have for stable branch status. anyone have anything else?
21:15:53 <melwitt> #topic Subteam Highlights
21:16:18 <melwitt> cells v2, we removed the recurring meeting from openstack meetings since we canceled the meeting more often than we had it
21:16:41 <dansmith> \o/
21:17:11 <melwitt> I've got a patch proposed for fixing the nova-consoleauth situation that will need to be backported to rocky https://review.openstack.org/607068
21:17:26 <melwitt> that's related to the per cell console proxy work from rocky
21:17:39 <melwitt> anything else to highlight dansmith, mriedem?
21:17:45 <dansmith> meh
21:17:54 <melwitt> alrighty
21:17:59 <melwitt> scheduler, efried?
21:18:08 <efried> yeaux
21:18:15 <efried> #link NovaScheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-08-14.00.html
21:18:24 <efried> Discussed the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing, which led to
21:18:24 <efried> #link ML post about the whole migrating/evacuating to/from nested thing http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135551.html
21:18:32 <efried> #link Spec: drop the `force` flag https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609330/
21:18:32 <efried> #link Reworked patch for nrp migration/evacuate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605785/
21:18:38 <efried> Extraction: upgrade work is getting close
21:18:45 <efried> Talked about
21:18:45 <efried> #link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544683/
21:18:45 <efried> in favor of
21:18:45 <efried> #link initial allocation ratio spec we're probably going to keep https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552105/
21:18:51 <efried> And more talk (but not more movement) about customizing provider attributes by extracting the yaml file format aspects of
21:18:52 <efried> #link device passthrough spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/
21:18:54 <efried> END
21:19:19 <melwitt> coolness. glad the allocation ratio issue is getting sorted
21:19:43 <melwitt> thanks all who are helping with that
21:19:59 <mriedem> i think,
21:20:04 <mriedem> the allocation ratio specs are still...
21:20:05 <mriedem> something
21:20:22 <mriedem> yikun is going to be working the initial allocation ratio config one,
21:20:25 <mriedem> which everyone agrees on,
21:20:31 <melwitt> guh, really? I thought we had a plan at the PTG. a guess some snag was hit
21:20:35 <mriedem> the other one is about proxying allocation ratios from the compute api to the placement api
21:20:50 <mriedem> and *that* spec is all sorts of old
21:20:58 <mriedem> and i'm not sure we all agree that proxying is cool
21:21:08 <mriedem> although i'm sure users would prefer that
21:21:21 <melwitt> what we talked about at the ptg didn't involve proxying, I didn't think
21:21:23 <mriedem> anywho, the proxy spec is lower priority at this point given people can do things with the placement API directly
21:21:33 <mriedem> i don't remember talking about the proxy aspect of that in denver,
21:21:36 <mriedem> but we did in dublin
21:21:41 <dansmith> yup
21:21:52 <mriedem> as an osc placement CLI helper
21:21:59 <mriedem> then that turned into a proxy API thing in the nova spec somehow
21:22:10 <melwitt> urgh ok
21:22:32 <mriedem> anyway,
21:22:32 <sean-k-mooney> mriedem: the proxying behavior wont effect the config part however correct so that effort can still continue
21:22:37 <mriedem> i've told yikun to work on the config option one first,
21:22:41 <mriedem> and we'll deal with the proxy thing later
21:22:56 <melwitt> ok
21:23:46 <melwitt> moving on, no from gibi for notifications. the weekly meeting was canceled indefinitely about a week ago, so maybe I'm supposed to remove the notification subteam section
21:23:52 <melwitt> *no notes
21:24:21 <melwitt> and gmann left a API subteam weekly update
21:24:27 <melwitt> #link API subteam weekly update http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135673.html
21:24:42 <melwitt> anyone have anything else for subteams?
21:24:55 <melwitt> #topic Stuck Reviews
21:25:04 <melwitt> no items in the agenda. anyone in the room have something for stuck reviews?
21:25:15 <melwitt> #topic Open discussion
21:25:25 <melwitt> I think this first item might be from last week
21:25:31 <melwitt> HPET support on x86 guests: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-hpet-on-guest
21:25:56 <cfriesen> yeah, I think that's left over
21:25:57 <melwitt> that has a spec, so review is going on in the spec
21:26:01 <melwitt> thanks cfriesen
21:26:09 <melwitt> next agenda item is
21:26:11 <melwitt> Add support for emulated virtual TPM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571111
21:26:11 <jackding> I just uploaded a new change to the spec, though not quite complete
21:26:26 <melwitt> ok jackding, thanks
21:26:36 <cfriesen> so I think the TPM one is basically ready for review.  we've got agreement on the trait names
21:26:56 <cfriesen> sean-k-mooney has given +1 on the technical side
21:27:06 <melwitt> ah, ok. so this is a heads up that this spec is ready-for-review
21:27:10 <cfriesen> yes
21:27:13 <melwitt> cool
21:27:34 <melwitt> I have one thing I wanted to mention briefly
21:27:46 <melwitt> #link rocky RC time regression analysis http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135494.html
21:28:16 <melwitt> I went through the bugs we experienced during RC time last cycle and captured some info about why they weren't caught earlier, etc
21:28:34 <melwitt> trying to see if any of it was related to the later spec freeze at milestone 2
21:28:46 <melwitt> it didn't seem to me that any of it was related, fwiw
21:29:14 <melwitt> it looks like we might be able to enhance our test coverage a bit to cover some of the gaps that allowed the regressions in (thanks for the reply mriedem)
21:30:11 <melwitt> as for what we can do going forward, there isn't a clear answer. but I was thinking maybe it would help to do a shoutout to the dev and ops lists after we cut the milestone 3 release and encourage people to try it out
21:30:25 <melwitt> because nearly all the bugs found were from people trying out RC1, I think
21:30:53 <melwitt> if you have any thoughts about it, feel free to reply on the thread. thanks
21:31:22 <melwitt> ok, does anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss in open discussion?
21:31:24 <mriedem> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend+(status:open+OR+status:merged) is ready to go (i've fixed up the false positives in the tests)
21:31:49 <dansmith> I have to go do a thing when we're done here but will try to hit those when I get back
21:32:03 <dansmith> re-hit them
21:32:04 <mriedem> i will sound the wechat alarm once approved
21:32:16 <melwitt> haha
21:32:38 <melwitt> nice work on all that, awesome to get it done so early in the cycle
21:32:51 <dansmith> fin?
21:32:53 <melwitt> ok, if that's all for today, we shall wrap up
21:32:56 <melwitt> thanks everyone
21:32:59 <melwitt> #endmeeting