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| samP | Hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 04:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | tpatil: Hi | 04:00 |
| samP | sorry for long absence | 04:01 |
| samP | I look into past meetings, | 04:02 |
| samP | following patches to stable/queens are merged | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Quick update: some of the patches are merged which are back ported into the stable/rocky | 04:02 |
| samP | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590735/ | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562973/ | 04:02 |
| samP | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591557/ | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599479/ | 04:02 |
| samP | about 599479, I abandoned it, cause it was too early | 04:04 |
| samP | I guess now it is oK | 04:04 |
| tpatil | samP: correct | 04:06 |
| tpatil | The above two patches back ported into the stable/rocky branch should be merged | 04:06 |
| samP | it seems that we have a merge conflict for 599479 | 04:09 |
| samP | I will fix that and merge | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: Thanks, I will review them | 04:09 |
| samP | Once we merge them, I will propose release for new version for stable/queens, stable/rocky | 04:10 |
| samP | Any other patches/bugs need to discuss? | 04:10 |
| tpatil | No | 04:11 |
| tpatil | One observation: Bug fixes are not mentioned in the release notes. I will check this issue. | 04:13 |
| samP | tpatil: Thanks, you were mentioned it earlier also. | 04:13 |
| samP | #topic Stein Work Items | 04:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:14 | |
| samP | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-ptg-stein | 04:14 |
| samP | Any updates on work items? | 04:14 |
| tpatil | Notification implementation : It's in progress. | 04:15 |
| samP | tpatil: great. | 04:15 |
| tpatil | For apis, notifications are in progress. I hope it should be up for review in the next week | 04:16 |
| samP | I will ping hoangcx about Proactive HA. | 04:16 |
| samP | tpatil: great, thanks | 04:16 |
| tpatil | I want to discuss about host/instance/process notifications. During execution of workflow for each of these notifications, I'm planning to emit notification/event information which will help operator to understand the current progress of the notification | 04:17 |
| tpatil | right now, operator get only status info, i.e. running | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Should this data be added as events/notifications? | 04:18 |
| tpatil | if we decide to add it as events, we may need to add few tables to store this info | 04:18 |
| samP | I think it useful for operators. I dont have exact idea about what tables we need to store this info. | 04:20 |
| samP | Can you share some details later about what to store | 04:21 |
| tpatil | for e.g. host notifications, it execute a workflow which contains more than one task. In each task, we can emit useful details to give operator some meaningful information. Like how many instances will be evacuated and what is the current progress, like evacuating 1 out of 10 instances, something like that. | 04:22 |
| tpatil | To store this info, we will need to add few db tables if we decide to emit as a event rather than notifications. As you know notifications data is not stored in masakari db. It depends on the oslo_messaging_notifications driver | 04:25 |
| tpatil | I think it should be stored as an event rather than notifications. | 04:26 |
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| samP | tpatil: OK understand | 04:28 |
| samP | tpatil: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473057/ | 04:29 |
| samP | This is the original spec for this feature | 04:30 |
| tpatil | the above event notification info will be stored as per the driver you have configured in oslo_messaging_notifications section | 04:30 |
| samP | It is possible to add those info to this spec? | 04:30 |
| samP | In case of adding info to above spec, the spec needs to re-propose to stein | 04:32 |
| tpatil | before amending above specs, I wanted to discuss this point whether we should club both these details into one. i..e API changes + workflow execution | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: no objection to put those 2 changes together. | 04:35 |
| tpatil | The above specs addresses changes to the API which emit notifications. Operator can subscribe to such notifications and process it separately outside masakari if need be | 04:35 |
| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:36 |
| tpatil | IMO, workflow execution details should be part of masakari db and for that we need another spec | 04:37 |
| tpatil | if you agree, I will submit a new specs for it | 04:37 |
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| samP | tpatil: no problem. In that case separate spec would be better. | 04:40 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:40 |
| tpatil | Add functional tests in openstacksdk | 04:41 |
| samP | tpatil: Please submit a new spec for db changes. | 04:41 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:41 |
| tpatil | Should the functional tests reside in masakari repo or openstacksdk repo? | 04:42 |
| tpatil | in ether pad, you also have mentioned about adding functional tests | 04:42 |
| samP | I think functional test would be in openstacksdk repo. However, we need to discuss this with sdk team | 04:44 |
| samP | tpatil: What I mentioned in etherpad was functional test for maskari, which is kind of same as what you proposed. | 04:45 |
| samP | plus some scenarios for host, process, vm failures. | 04:46 |
| samP | I am considering to implement those with eris. | 04:46 |
| tpatil | in that case, I think it's better to write functional test in masakari repo itself. what do you think? | 04:47 |
| tpatil | We have already started writing functional tests in openstacksdk but it's possible to move it to masakari repo with minimal changes | 04:48 |
| samP | tpatil: Other projects have there functional tests in own repo, right? | 04:49 |
| tpatil | Yes, but it doesn't call RestFul apis using it's own python client libraries | 04:51 |
| tpatil | If we decide to write functional tests in masakari repo itself using openstacksdk interface, it possible to test both openstacksdk code and masakari RestFul APIs | 04:52 |
| samP | On sdk side they have API validation tests..(just looking at them) | 04:52 |
| samP | tpatil: right. | 04:52 |
| tpatil | so we need to decide whether functional tests should be written in openstacksdk or masakari repo | 04:53 |
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| samP | Now, it seems to me that those functional test should stay in masakari repo. | 04:54 |
| tpatil | the only catch is if you are modifying openstacksdk code, then the functional tests won't run on the actual changes of sdk code but the previous openstacksdk lib released. Also, you will need to import openstacksdk lib in masakari which doesn't seems to be correct | 04:57 |
| samP | tpatil: thatz what I am worry about | 04:58 |
| samP | give me some time to think about this. I will share my thoughts in email | 04:58 |
| tpatil | we should make sure that there are no duplicate functional tests in masakari and openstacksdk | 04:59 |
| samP | We can decide on our next meeting, where to put the functional tests | 04:59 |
| samP | times up! | 05:00 |
| tpatil | ok | 05:00 |
| samP | lets discuss further on email or IRC | 05:00 |
| samP | thank you all! | 05:00 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| tpatil | Sure | 05:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 05:00:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-10-09-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-10-09-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
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| dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 08:12:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | Who is here for Tacker meeting? | 08:12 |
| joxyuki | o/ | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:12 |
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| dkushwaha | hi joxyuki | 08:12 |
| joxyuki | hi, dkushwaha | 08:13 |
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| joxyuki | wow, no others??? | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, seems so | 08:15 |
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| dkushwaha | I was away from work more than a week due to some holidays and family member health issue. | 08:17 |
| dkushwaha | So i could not work during that time. And just joined office right now. | 08:17 |
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| dkushwaha | joxyuki, do you have something to discuss? | 08:18 |
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| dkushwaha | otherwise we can skip todayś meeting, and will be available on Tacker channel for any discussion. | 08:20 |
| joxyuki | dkushwaha, no. I and my colleague are working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561840/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603558/. | 08:20 |
| joxyuki | We are going to upload patch soon. | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, great | 08:20 |
| joxyuki | ok, | 08:21 |
| joxyuki | let's do so | 08:21 |
| dkushwaha | I will review them, and I have so many pending items so resume my work from now | 08:22 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, ok, so closing this meeting for now. | 08:23 |
| joxyuki | yea, I hope you will make great progress | 08:23 |
| joxyuki | good luck | 08:23 |
| dkushwaha | Thanks | 08:23 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:23 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-10-09-08.12.html | 08:23 |
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| jiaopengju | #startmeeting karbor | 09:14 |
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| jiaopengju | hi, anyone has something to discuss? | 09:15 |
| jiaopengju | who is here for Karbor weekly meeting? | 09:16 |
| jiaopengju | So we can skip the meeting today. If you have something to discuss but missing the meeting, please feel free to discuss it on Karbor IRC channel. | 09:20 |
| jiaopengju | Thanks | 09:20 |
| jiaopengju | #endmeeting | 09:20 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-10-09-09.14.html | 09:20 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 14:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 14:00 |
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| hongbin | o/ | 14:00 |
| lajoskatona | Hi | 14:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 14:00 |
| longkb | hi o/ | 14:00 |
| boden | howdy | 14:01 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:02 |
| amotoki | o/ | 14:02 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 14:03 |
| annp_ | hi | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Annoucements | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | We are a little less of two weeks away from the Stein-1 milestone, October 22 - 26 | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | Last week week I proposed the addition of bcafarel to the stable branches core team: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135343.html | 14:04 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:05 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | Today marks one week of that nomination, with only positive feedback | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | so he should have +2 powers in stable branches any time now | 14:05 |
| annp_ | +1 | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | bcafarel: THanks for stepping up to the plate! | 14:05 |
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| amotoki | I sometimes review stable branches but have less crossing with bcafarel so far.... thanks for stepping up | 14:06 |
| amotoki | *in stable reviews | 14:06 |
| bcafarel | thanks mlavalle amotoki, I will keep up with your expectations | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | Finally, yesterday the Neutron performance team held its first biweekly meeting: | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_performance/2018/neutron_performance.2018-10-08-16.00.log.html | 14:07 |
| njohnston | d'oh! Sorry I missed it - was off on holiday. | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | it takes place every two weeks at 1600 UTC. everybody is invited to chip in | 14:08 |
| * haleyb missed it too | 14:08 | |
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| -amotoki- tries to check logs | 14:08 | |
| mlavalle | any other announcements to share with the team? | 14:08 |
| amotoki | re: the stable branches, I would like to discuss a new stable/ocata release before EM in the open discussion section of this meeting. | 14:08 |
| -amotoki- forgot to add it to the agenda though :( | 14:09 | |
| mlavalle | amotoki: great, haleyb and I had a chat about that a few days ago. We were waiting for bcafarel to join the team | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | very timely! | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic Blueprints | 14:10 |
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| mlavalle | These are the blueprints we are targeting for Stein-1: | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/stein-1 | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | Does anybody have any blueprints updates? | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | I have a couple of quick updates | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | First, last Friday the drivers team approved this rfe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1794771 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1794771 in neutron "SRIOV trunk port - multiple vlans on same VF" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:13 |
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| mlavalle | I am going to create a blueprint for it, so we can track the effort in our weekly meeting | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | I also started this past weekend implementing https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777627 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | Here's the first patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608473/ | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | I will also create a blueprint for it | 14:15 |
| amotoki | I resumed mine (policy-in-code) today. last week was too busy week to catch up many internal stuffs during my late summer vacation.... and this Monday was a holiday here. I will post an updated version tomorrow. Thank you all for the review comments | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | bcafarel: the drivers also approved this past Friday https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789592 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789592 in neutron "[RFE] Add native OVSDB implementation for OvsdbMonitor" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:16 |
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| mlavalle | do you plan to implement it? | 14:16 |
| njohnston | I have a few patches in-flight for bulk port operations, I hope to get new PSes up today to address comments | 14:16 |
| bcafarel | I saw it in last meeting summary yes | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | bcafarel: ok, great | 14:16 |
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| bcafarel | mlavalle: I plan to work on it, but if anyone wants to take it, I do not mind :) | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | amotoki, njohnston thanks for the updates | 14:17 |
| tidwellr | I have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608357 which migrates neutron-dynamic-routing from Ryu to os-ken | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr: ah nice! | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | that's a good exercise | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 14:18 |
| amotoki | nice, but don't we need to coordinate the timing to switch from ryu to os-ken in the neutron stadium? | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: let's talk about that in the os-ken section | 14:18 |
| amotoki | sure | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | any toher updates? | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | other^^^ | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | #topic Community goals | 14:20 |
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| * mlavalle notes that amotoki already updated on policy in code | 14:20 | |
| slaweq | I started working on update check with noop check first | 14:20 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608444/ | 14:20 |
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| slaweq | basically it's working, only problem is that new lib oslo_upgradecheck is not released in stable version yet | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | nice, great progress! | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:21 |
| slaweq | when this will be done, we can add some real checks to it | 14:22 |
| slaweq | but community goal is to have this tool with at least noop check, so should be good :) | 14:22 |
| amotoki | until stable release, we might use the latest commit by specifying the oslo repo in required-projects in zuul.yaml. | 14:22 |
| slaweq | amotoki: yes, but still it fails on requirements check as it's not in openstack/requirements yet | 14:22 |
| slaweq | I sent email about that on the weekend and mriedem adviced me to wait a bit for release of this lib | 14:23 |
| slaweq | so I think we have some time still and can wait | 14:23 |
| njohnston | Looking at the zuul job definitions it looks like it is not going to be too difficult to move all of our zuul jobs to python 3; just need to make sure that the USE_PYTHON3 variable is true in most cases. That is something that should be easy to add to the .zuul.yaml file. | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | so, essentially, we are ahead of the game, great! | 14:24 |
| amotoki | njohnston: yeah, it is true for devstack related jobs | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | thanks njohnston | 14:25 |
| njohnston | But in the process of talking about that in the neutron CI meeting, it came up that our governance standards also direct us to test on whatever the most recent LTS release is as of the start of the cycle; for Stein this is ubuntu Bionic. Bionic is already being tested by the openstack-tox-py36 job, since it ships with python3.6, so that objective can be achieved by changing the nodeset fo rthe zuul jobs to "ubuntu-bion | 14:25 |
| njohnston | ic". | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Starter Approved RFEs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:26 | |
| mlavalle | I want to point out that we have a couple of approved RFEs that are considered low hanging fruit for new contributors: | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1745192 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1745192 in neutron "Can't create a vlan transparent network in mixed driver environment" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pawel Rusak (rusakp) | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | This one one taken over back in June, but I didn't see any progress all summer lomng | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: did rusakp reach out to you again? | 14:27 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: not in last few months | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's hold for a couple of weeks. if we don't see any progress, we can un-assign it | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | also this past Friday the drivers approved: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1792901 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1792901 in neutron "[RFE] subnet pool can not delete prefixes" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | it's unassigned and tidwellr has offered to provide guidance | 14:29 |
| tidwellr | do we need someone to jump in and finish this off? | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | not in a hurry. do you want it? | 14:30 |
| tidwellr | I'm happy to take a look | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | feel free | 14:30 |
| tidwellr | alrighty then | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | bcafarel: we can also advertise in this section: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789592 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789592 in neutron "[RFE] Add native OVSDB implementation for OvsdbMonitor" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | for a few weeks. If nobody shows up, you can implement it | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 14:32 |
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| mlavalle | Last week our deputy was Swami | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | I don't see him around though | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | and didn't see a summary from him | 14:33 |
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| mlavalle | This is what was reported over the past few days: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&start=0 | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | I see a lot of undecided there | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | The only critical one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795870 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: some of them are from this week and I didn't check them yet | 14:35 |
| slaweq | but I will do it | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: is this the one I am supposed to take over?^^^^ | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | you didn't ping me | 14:35 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes | 14:36 |
| slaweq | ahh, I forgot :/ | 14:36 |
| slaweq | I created bug and forgot to ping You later | 14:36 |
| slaweq | sorry | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | no problem | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | I just assigned it to me | 14:36 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | so don't yell at me during the CI meeting ;-) | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, any other bugs we should discuss today? | 14:37 |
| amotoki | i also have new bug mails last week. I can share efforts to check them. | 14:37 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: of course :) | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks! | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | well, as hinted by slaweq earlier, he is our deputy this week | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 14:38 |
| slaweq | yep | 14:38 |
| slaweq | and this time I remember about that ;) | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | #topic neutron-lib | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:39 | |
| mlavalle | boden: you are up | 14:39 |
| boden | hi | 14:39 |
| boden | the only real thing I want to mention (again) is that moving forward I'll only be posting neutron-lib consumption patches to those projects who opted in | 14:40 |
| boden | here's the topic I was using for those opt-in patches for ref https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:neutron-lib-current-optin | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | yeap, don't be afraid to remind us constantky | 14:40 |
| boden | not much else exciting to mention from me | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | good progress! | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | sfc is as I expected :-( | 14:42 |
| boden | TaaS as well... and they asked about opting in | 14:42 |
| boden | guess lack of reviewers | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | and with tap as a service, we probably need to enable some people with +2 powers | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | I'll talk to munimeha1, since he is actively working on it | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | and will loop yamamoto in | 14:43 |
| boden | mlavalle if you think that's the right thing to do... my main concern is that this is a testament from the project opting in that they can review the consumption patches | 14:43 |
| boden | but we can see | 14:43 |
| boden | you know me... I will complain if things go south ;) | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | I know :-) | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | anything else here? | 14:44 |
| boden | not from me | 14:44 |
| amotoki | neutron-lib consumption patches and project activeness are separate things though they are tightly coupled.... | 14:44 |
| boden | amotoki very tight | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | #topic CLI / SDK | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CLI / SDK (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:45 | |
| mlavalle | any updates on this topic? | 14:45 |
| amotoki | nothing from me this week | 14:45 |
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| mlavalle | ack | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | #topic os-ken | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | hongbin: you are up | 14:46 |
| hongbin | hi | 14:46 |
| hongbin | i want to mention a few things | 14:46 |
| hongbin | 1. the storyboard of os-ken is created | 14:46 |
| hongbin | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/os-ken | 14:46 |
| hongbin | for os-ken, we will use storyboard to track BPs, bugs, etc. | 14:47 |
| hongbin | 2. os-ken 0.1.0 is release | 14:47 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607010/ | 14:47 |
| hongbin | this is the initial release of os-ken, the version start with "0" means it is in beta status | 14:48 |
| hongbin | 3. i am requesting to add os-ken to the global requirement | 14:48 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609018/ | 14:48 |
| hongbin | after that, neutron and stadium project will be able to consume this library and do some initial testing | 14:49 |
| hongbin | that is all i want to share, any question for that? | 14:49 |
| amotoki | what is the recommended process if we receive bugs in neutron launchpad related to os-ken/ryu? | 14:49 |
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| hongbin | mlavalle: you have an answer for amotoki 's question? | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | the idea is that we track os-ken bugs in storyboard | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | so if we receive them in launchpad, we should transfer them to storyboard | 14:51 |
| njohnston | I would copy the text into a storyboard story, then mark the LP bug 'invalid' and provide a link to the storyboard story. I don't know how to reflect critical/high/medium/low/wishlist status in storyboard. | 14:51 |
| amotoki | i think the way is to create a new story on storyboard, leave a comment in launchpad and keep it open till it is fixed in os-ken . | 14:51 |
| amotoki | per ML discussion, storyboard has no priority mechanism in its design. | 14:52 |
| slaweq | amotoki: I don't think we need to keep it open in launchpad until bug is fixed | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | I think this is a good approach, amotoki.... | 14:52 |
| amotoki | slaweq: I think it depends on situations. if it affects neutron behaviors, it is worth opend. | 14:52 |
| amotoki | s/opend/opened/ | 14:53 |
| slaweq | yes, in such case it can | 14:53 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | correct, but in principle, let's close it in Launchpad | 14:53 |
| slaweq | should we then link related os-ken patch to this lp bug also? | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: yes | 14:53 |
| slaweq | e.g. as "related-bug", right? | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:54 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:54 |
| amotoki | +1 | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | actually, I'll add a summary of this discussion to our bugs triaging policy | 14:54 |
| slaweq | also please note that You can link patch to story/task from storyboard so we should require that too in such patches for os-ken | 14:54 |
| slaweq | (just to mention :)) | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | we can refine it thorugh your firandly reviews | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | friendly reviews^^^ | 14:55 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:55 | |
| mlavalle | amotoki: let's talk about ocata | 14:55 |
| amotoki | the time left is limted. I would like to share our situation. | 14:56 |
| amotoki | as you may know, we introduced a new way to maintain stable branches. | 14:56 |
| amotoki | It is called as "extended maintenance" (EM). | 14:56 |
| amotoki | We won't cut a release after entering to the EM phase. | 14:56 |
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| amotoki | We have several commits after the last release of stable/ocata. | 14:56 |
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| amotoki | nova team is thinking to cut a new release for stable/ocata: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135483.html | 14:57 |
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| amotoki | I think the neutron team is in the same situation. | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | that message is what triggered my chat with haleyb | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | and yes, we agree | 14:57 |
| amotoki | we also have several open stable/ocata patches. | 14:57 |
| amotoki | I think it is better to visit pending reviews and then cut a release | 14:58 |
| haleyb | we need to merge or abandon, then cut, then go EM | 14:58 |
| haleyb | we had the same idea | 14:58 |
| amotoki | haleyb: we don't need to abandon open reviews. | 14:58 |
| amotoki | because EM does not mean EOL | 14:59 |
| haleyb | amotoki: ok, maybe i'm just thinking of some that have been sitting a while | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | I think we are more or less in the same page | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | we ran out of time | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| amotoki | yeah, let's look thru open reviews. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 15:00:23 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-10-09-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-10-09-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-10-09-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks for bringing this topic up! very timely | 15:00 |
| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 15:00:59 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 15:01 |
| slaweq | lets start next one :) | 15:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 15:01 |
| rubasov | o/ | 15:01 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 15:01 |
| slaweq | welcome back ralonsoh! | 15:01 |
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| slaweq | and welcome all of You too :) | 15:01 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
| slaweq | first one (as always) is: | 15:02 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:02 |
| slaweq | and there is still no any progress on that one | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | next on the list is: | 15:03 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | I folowed up on this one | 15:03 |
| slaweq | There was some update on patch but it's not WIP | 15:03 |
| slaweq | patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/ | 15:03 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle :) | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | zhaobo is definitely going to continue working on it | 15:04 |
| slaweq | that's very good :) | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | he is currently working on a feature for Octavia | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | but he is commited to finish this blueprint this cycle | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | it is in his goals sheet with his employer | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | which is also min ;-) | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | mine^^^ | 15:05 |
| slaweq | great to hear that, thx mlavalle for update on this :) | 15:05 |
| slaweq | and are You his manager maybe? :) | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | let's just be a little patient over the next few weeks | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | until he is done with his Octavia work | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I'm not his manager | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | but I'm his techincal lead | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | so, yes, I can influence | 15:06 |
| slaweq | good, that also can help us ;) | 15:06 |
| slaweq | thx for update, I will just keep mentioning this on our meetings to not forget about it :) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | sure | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | np | 15:07 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 15:08 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757044 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:08 |
| slaweq | patches have good progress IMO, but I didn't review them yet recently: | 15:08 |
| slaweq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424468/ - server side patch | 15:08 |
| slaweq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568526/ - agent side patch | 15:09 |
| slaweq | anyone wants to add something about this one maybe? | 15:11 |
| slaweq | or can we move forward? | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | let's move forward | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | just review them when you have a chance | 15:11 |
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| slaweq | ok, next one | 15:11 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777627 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:12 |
| * mlavalle looks at himself | 15:12 | |
| slaweq | it's Yours mlavalle :) | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I pushed the neutron-lib patch: | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608473/ | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | it is esentially in its final form | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | but Michel Peterson left some comments about the position of the } in the resource attribute map | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | I'll fix those later today and it will be good to go as far as I can tell | 15:13 |
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| slaweq | ok, added to my review queue then | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | Next step for this week, is a patch with entry points for the qos plugin in Neutron | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | I'll review it today | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | and that will wrap this RFE | 15:14 |
| slaweq | but some neutron patch will be necessary also? or not? | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | Yes, that's what I meant ^^^^ | 15:15 |
| slaweq | ahh, sorry | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | about the patch for the QoS plugin | 15:15 |
| slaweq | I missed one line somehow :) | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | we need to retrieve the policy id | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | and redirect the call to the current API | 15:16 |
| slaweq | ok, so we should be good with this one soon, thx mlavalle :) | 15:16 |
| slaweq | ok, moving one | 15:17 |
| slaweq | *moving on | 15:18 |
| slaweq | last rfe on the list: | 15:18 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lajos Katona (lajos-katona) | 15:18 |
| lajoskatona | Yes, we are on it | 15:18 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: rubasov any updates? | 15:18 |
| lajoskatona | We try to move the neutron side patches one-by-one through the review | 15:18 |
| rubasov | I was on vacation for more than a week so I'll let lajoskatona give an update | 15:18 |
| lajoskatona | Actually I tried to fix the comments for the agent heartbeat patches, as those are at the bottom, so I feel that we have some progress | 15:19 |
| slaweq | I was reviewing some of Your patches today | 15:20 |
| lajoskatona | On the other side for the pathces which are not for rubasov's patches, I tried to do the same :-) | 15:20 |
| lajoskatona | Thanks for everybody for the reviews | 15:20 |
| lajoskatona | yeah, thanks I hope we are moving toward the final version with them | 15:21 |
| lajoskatona | Otherwise we try to do some preparation for the Berlin summit demo, but with that not too much progress | 15:21 |
| lajoskatona | That's all I think | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | good job, BTW | 15:21 |
| slaweq | ok, thx for updates | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | I'll review the series at some point this week | 15:22 |
| slaweq | and thx a lot for all Your work on this | 15:22 |
| lajoskatona | ralonsoh: thanks | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update and the hard work | 15:22 |
| lajoskatona | mlavalle: thanks | 15:22 |
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| slaweq | btw. lajoskatona, I'm now looking at api test results in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/584927/ | 15:23 |
| slaweq | and now I understand why You wanted this neutron patch to be depends on neutron-tempest-plugin patch | 15:23 |
| slaweq | but I think that we don't need test test_rule_create_fail_for_direction_ingress at all now | 15:23 |
| slaweq | as we will support creation of ingress min_bw_limit_rule now | 15:24 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq: ok, so as tempest is branchless, I should skip that, or delete? | 15:24 |
| slaweq | so maybe the easiest way would be to propose separate patch with removal of this tes | 15:24 |
| slaweq | *test | 15:24 |
| slaweq | and then all other should go smooth | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | agree | 15:24 |
| slaweq | ahh, so You want to have it still running for stable branches | 15:25 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq: then I create a patch for deleting the test, make the neutron patch depend on that and hope for the best? | 15:25 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq: I don't want, but now we run the same tempest, or not? | 15:26 |
| slaweq | personally I think that this can be removed from tempest api tests | 15:26 |
| lajoskatona | ok, I push a patch with the deletion | 15:26 |
| slaweq | if we want to have it in stable branches, we can add it maybe to fullstack tests there - mlavalle what do You think about that? | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | yesh, fullstack is a good approach | 15:27 |
| lajoskatona | You mean to have fullstack test for it on stab;e branches? | 15:28 |
| lajoskatona | I mean for this test: test_rule_create_fail_for_direction_ingress? | 15:28 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: yes, basically on master we don't need it as we would always skip it, so we can remove if from there and move to fullstack but only for stable branches where it should raise this expetion as it's now | 15:29 |
| slaweq | so it would be 2 patches: 1 to remove this test from neutron_tempest_plugin and later patch with adding it to fullstack in stable/rocky | 15:29 |
| slaweq | and then some cherry-picks to stable/queens and stable/pike also | 15:30 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq: ok, I create a note for it for my tasklist :-) | 15:30 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: thx :) | 15:30 |
| slaweq | I can help You with that if You want | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | slaweq likes fullstack tests a lot | 15:31 |
| lajoskatona | slaweq:thanks | 15:31 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: LOL | 15:31 |
| slaweq | especially debugging it :) | 15:31 |
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| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 15:31 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:31 | |
| slaweq | first one: | 15:32 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784006 | 15:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784006 in neutron "Instances miss neutron QoS on their ports after unrescue and soft reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:32 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: any updates? | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | I didn't have to to work on this one | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | time^^^^ | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | I'll try again this week | 15:32 |
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| slaweq | sure | 15:33 |
| slaweq | next one: | 15:33 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1779052 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779052 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) in Neutron (documentation) - only different types rules can be combined in QoS policy" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:33 |
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| slaweq | there is patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581941/ still no any response from patch owner, I updated this PS today | 15:34 |
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| slaweq | next one | 15:34 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1776160 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1776160 in neutron "'burst' does not take effect for neutron egress qos bindlimit by ovs" [Undecided,New] | 15:35 |
| slaweq | I wanted to check it but I still didn't have time | 15:35 |
| slaweq | if someone wants to play with it, feel free :) | 15:35 |
| slaweq | and the last one on my list: | 15:36 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1785189 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785189 in neutron "Floatingip and router bandwidth speed limit failure" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:36 |
| slaweq | Patch is proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596637/ | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | There is a comment from liuyulong that has been unaddressed for several weeks now | 15:37 |
| slaweq | have one +2 but also some -1 - there are some questions with no answers there, I think we can review it and wait few more weeks for update from owner of patch | 15:37 |
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| liuyulong | yep | 15:37 |
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| slaweq | and that's all from my side | 15:39 |
| slaweq | do You have anything else You want to talk? | 15:39 |
| liuyulong | Give me one minute, thanks. | 15:39 |
| slaweq | #topic Open Discussion | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:39 | |
| slaweq | sure liuyulong, go on :) | 15:39 |
| liuyulong | It's bout the port forwarding floating IP QoS. | 15:39 |
| liuyulong | Since the port_forwarding l3 agent extension handle it's own floating IPs, I think we can add these IPs to L3 (fip_qos) QoS extension procedure. | 15:40 |
| slaweq | it sounds like new RFE for me :) | 15:41 |
| liuyulong | I'll add a LP bug for it. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | we can review it soon | 15:41 |
| liuyulong | Let all floating IPs can be limited under the QoS policy. | 15:42 |
| liuyulong | Thanks | 15:43 |
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| slaweq | ok, let's create lp bug for that and discuss there | 15:43 |
| slaweq | thx for bringing this up liuyulong :) | 15:43 |
| liuyulong | slaweq, you are welcome. : ) | 15:44 |
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| slaweq | ok, anything else? | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 15:44 |
| slaweq | if not, I will give You back about 15 minutes :) | 15:44 |
| liuyulong | no from me | 15:44 |
| lajoskatona | bye | 15:45 |
| slaweq | ok, so thx for attending | 15:45 |
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| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 15:45:10 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | thanks, bye | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-10-09-15.00.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-10-09-15.00.txt | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-10-09-15.00.log.html | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:45 |
| rubasov | bye | 15:45 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 16:00:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| slaweq | welcome (again) :) | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| slaweq | njohnston Reduce to a single fullstack job named 'neutron-fullstack' that calls python3 in tox.ini and runs on bionic nodeset | 16:01 |
| njohnston | so for that I hijacked bcafarel's change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604749/ | 16:02 |
| njohnston | I am tinkering with it to figure out the issues with neutron-fullstack job | 16:03 |
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| slaweq | what issue exactly? | 16:04 |
| njohnston | http://logs.openstack.org/49/604749/3/check/neutron-fullstack/612006a/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-10-04_01_32_01_503103 | 16:05 |
| slaweq | but do we need still compile ovs on those tests? | 16:06 |
| njohnston | looks like it is trying to compile OVS | 16:06 |
| njohnston | I don't think so - that is not a change I introduced | 16:06 |
| slaweq | I know | 16:06 |
| slaweq | IIRC we had something like that because of some missing patch(es) in Ubuntu ovs package | 16:06 |
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| slaweq | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/contrib/gate_hook.sh#L82 | 16:07 |
| slaweq | it's here | 16:07 |
| njohnston | ah! | 16:07 |
| slaweq | maybe we should check if this commit is already included in version provided by Bionic/Xenial and then get rid of this | 16:08 |
| njohnston | agreed | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | that's a good point | 16:08 |
| njohnston | I can look into that | 16:08 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston :) | 16:08 |
| njohnston | #action njohnston look into fullstack compilation of ovs still needed on bionic | 16:09 |
| njohnston | thanks for a great memory slaweq! | 16:09 |
| slaweq | yw njohnston :) | 16:09 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move to the next one | 16:09 |
| slaweq | njohnston Ask the infra team for what ubuntu release Stein will be supported | 16:09 |
| njohnston | the answer is: bionic | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | very good email summary on that one | 16:10 |
| slaweq | yes, thx njohnston | 16:10 |
| njohnston | I didn't send out that email to all, so let me summarize it here. | 16:10 |
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| njohnston | I brought this up to the TC, noting the point that we should be moving on to bionic based on our governance documents | 16:11 |
| njohnston | Given how zuulv3 has pushed the onus of CI job definition maintenance to the project teams, I asked if the TC would be announcing this change or otherwise managing it | 16:11 |
| njohnston | This prompted a bit of discussion; the conclusion of which was that the TC doesn't have a ready answer - yet | 16:12 |
| njohnston | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-10-03.log.html#t2018-10-03T16:46:21 | 16:12 |
| slaweq | ok then, so what if e.g. we will switch all our jobs to bionic but other projects will still run xenial at the end of Stein? is it possible? | 16:13 |
| slaweq | should we just go on and try to switch all our jobs or should we wait for some more "global" action plan? | 16:13 |
| njohnston | The TC will need to mitigate that risk. They are still smarting after the last time this happened, and everyone was running xenial except Trove, which was back on trusty. So they know the danger, better than we do. | 16:13 |
| njohnston | I think we should go ahead andm switch our jobs | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | we do our bit | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | and let the TC worry about the global picture | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | we can warn them in the ML | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | when we are about to do it | 16:15 |
| slaweq | so maybe we can try first to clone our jobs to experimental queue and use them with Stein there and see how it will looks like | 16:15 |
| slaweq | what You think about it? | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | reasonable | 16:15 |
| njohnston | note that we already have tests running on bionic - you can't test on py36 without bionic, so the openstack-toc-py36 job is already there | 16:15 |
| slaweq | yes, but I think more about all scenario/tempest/grenade jobs | 16:16 |
| njohnston | but yes, that is a reasonable plan, especially with complicated things like scenario tests | 16:16 |
| slaweq | and btw. what about grenade? should it run Rocky on Bionic and upgrade to Stein? | 16:16 |
| slaweq | do You know maybe? | 16:16 |
| njohnston | right, because we're not dealing with 100%pass vs 100% fail, we're dealing with fluctuations in fail trends a lot of the time | 16:16 |
| njohnston | the QA team is working on grenade because of the python3 challenge, so I think we can wait for the fruits of their labor | 16:17 |
| njohnston | I don't know the specific answer, but if I am not mistaken the QA PTL is on the TC | 16:17 |
| njohnston | so it should not escape notice | 16:18 |
| slaweq | yes, he is | 16:18 |
| slaweq | gmann is QA PTL IIRC | 16:18 |
| njohnston | yep | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:18 |
| slaweq | ok then | 16:18 |
| slaweq | so I think we should now create copies of our scenario/tempest/fullstack/functional jobs running on Bionic in experimental queue, right? | 16:18 |
| njohnston | yes | 16:19 |
| slaweq | and then we will see what issues we have so we will be able to plan this work somehow | 16:19 |
| njohnston | +1 | 16:19 |
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| slaweq | I can do this first step then :) | 16:19 |
| slaweq | ok? | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:20 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle :) | 16:20 |
| njohnston | I am grateful, thanks | 16:20 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq will create scenario/tempest/fullstack/functional jobs running on Bionic in experimental queue | 16:20 |
| slaweq | ok, then move on | 16:20 |
| slaweq | njohnston to check and add missing jobs to grafana dashboard | 16:20 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607586/ merged | 16:21 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston :) | 16:21 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:21 |
| slaweq | * slaweq to prepare etherpad with list of jobs to move to Bionic | 16:21 |
| slaweq | I start doing this today: | 16:21 |
| slaweq | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ci-bionic | 16:22 |
| slaweq | but as I will do those experimental jobs I will also update this etherpad | 16:22 |
| njohnston | sounds good | 16:22 |
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| slaweq | next was: | 16:23 |
| slaweq | * slaweq will report bug about failing trunk scenario test | 16:23 |
| slaweq | Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795870 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:23 |
| slaweq | sorry mlavalle that I forgot to ping You with this :) | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | np | 16:23 |
| slaweq | and the last one: | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | I'll work on it next | 16:24 |
| slaweq | * mlavalle will check failing trunk scenario test | 16:24 |
| slaweq | I guess it's not done, right? :P | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:24 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle will check failing trunk scenario test | 16:24 |
| slaweq | I will add it for next week then | 16:24 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 16:24 |
| slaweq | ok, so that was all from last week | 16:24 |
| slaweq | next topic | 16:25 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:25 | |
| slaweq | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:25 |
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| slaweq | looking at grafana it looks that we are generally quite good | 16:26 |
| slaweq | do You want to talk about something specific? | 16:26 |
| njohnston | neutron-grenade-dvr-multinode falling fast in the check queue \o/ | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | there's been a slow down of activity over the past few days | 16:27 |
| slaweq | njohnston: about this grenade job I want to talk a bit later :) | 16:27 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes, it looks that there wasn't anything in gate recently, most work in check queue | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | maybe also a bit of the Columbus Day holiday in the US | 16:28 |
| njohnston | +1 | 16:28 |
| slaweq | might be | 16:28 |
| slaweq | but basically it looks quite good in overall | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | \o/ | 16:29 |
| slaweq | so lets talk about some specific jobs issues | 16:29 |
| slaweq | (which are already well known) | 16:29 |
| slaweq | #topic fullstack/functional | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fullstack/functional (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:29 | |
| slaweq | I don't know why but I think we are again more often hit with issue like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687027 in functional tests | 16:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687027 in neutron "test_walk_versions tests fail with "IndexError: tuple index out of range" after timeout" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:30 |
| slaweq | I saw it couple of times during this week | 16:30 |
| slaweq | e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/neutron-functional/e56b690/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:30 |
| slaweq | it's periodic job from today | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | should I prioritize this one over the previous one? | 16:32 |
| slaweq | did You saw it also recently? | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | I ahven't seen it | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | lately | 16:32 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I think that this issue with trunk tests is more important | 16:33 |
| slaweq | this one is IMO stricly test only issue | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | yes, that's also my impression | 16:33 |
| slaweq | and trunk tests issue - we don't know, maybe it's "real" bug | 16:33 |
| slaweq | I will try to find few minutes to maybe reproduce this one | 16:34 |
| slaweq | if I will find something, I will let You know on next meeting :) | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:35 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq will try to reproduce and triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687027 | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687027 in neutron "test_walk_versions tests fail with "IndexError: tuple index out of range" after timeout" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:35 |
| slaweq | speaking about scenario jobs, | 16:35 |
| slaweq | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest/Scenario (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:35 | |
| slaweq | manjeets: any update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 ? | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 16:35 |
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| slaweq | I guess he isn't here | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | nope | 16:37 |
| slaweq | ok, let's wait one more week and maybe we will have to start working on this | 16:38 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:38 |
| slaweq | so, lets move on to the next topic | 16:39 |
| slaweq | #topic grenade | 16:39 |
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| slaweq | (my "favorite" one recently) | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:39 |
| slaweq | I spent about 3 days on debugging https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1791989 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1791989 in neutron "grenade-dvr-multinode job fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:40 |
| slaweq | and I found nothing :/ | 16:40 |
| slaweq | well, almost nothing | 16:40 |
| slaweq | I have some patch which prints me a lot of informations like, openflow rules, bridges in ovs, namespaces, network config in namespaces, iptables and so on | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and I was comparing it from moment when ping was not working and when it starts working | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and all was the same | 16:41 |
| slaweq | haleyb proposed some patch to add permanent neighbors in fip and qrouter namespaces: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608259/ | 16:42 |
| slaweq | but this didn't helps | 16:42 |
| slaweq | so I started ssh to those nodes with running job and I started looking for tcpdump when ping was not working | 16:42 |
| slaweq | and I found that icmp requests are comming to vm's tap device | 16:43 |
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| slaweq | and vm sends icmp reply but this reply is gone somewhere in br-int | 16:43 |
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| mlavalle | that sounds like flows not properly setup maybe | 16:44 |
| slaweq | so today I added another thing to my dnm patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602204/) to flush fdb entries from br-int when ping will not work first time and check then if after this ping will start working | 16:44 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: all flows were the same | 16:44 |
| slaweq | openflow rules I mean | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:44 |
| slaweq | so, I am trying to spot this issue again in my dnm patch again and see if this flush will help or not | 16:45 |
| slaweq | but since yesterday evening it looks like this job is working fine again | 16:45 |
| haleyb | and it eventually starts working, which is why we started looking at arp. i'll await the testing... | 16:45 |
| * haleyb is late for the party | 16:45 | |
| slaweq | I can't spot it in my DNM patch - ping works every time before in first attempt | 16:46 |
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| slaweq | and looking at kibana: http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=build_name:%5C%22neutron-grenade-dvr-multinode%5C%22%20AND%20build_status:FAILURE%20AND%20message:%5C%22die%2067%20'%5BFail%5D%20Couldn'%5C%5C''t%20ping%20server%5C%22 | 16:47 |
| njohnston | down to only 37% failure - makes me wonder if something was fixed elsewhere and our issue was just a manifestation http://grafana.openstack.org/d/Hj5IHcSmz/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=22&fullscreen&orgId=1 | 16:47 |
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| slaweq | it looks that it really didn't happen since yesterday | 16:47 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes, that's exactly what I think now | 16:48 |
| slaweq | but TBH I'm really puzzled with this one :/ | 16:48 |
| slaweq | so, any questions/comments about this? | 16:49 |
| njohnston | would it be useful to ping infra and ask i fthey fixed anything networking-related? | 16:49 |
| njohnston | or moved their capacity around - drained all jobs from a cloud, perhaps? | 16:49 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes, I can ask them | 16:49 |
| mlavalle | interesting | 16:49 |
| njohnston | thats all I can think of | 16:49 |
| slaweq | I think that I can only ask them if they maybe did/fixed something which might be related recently and wait to see how results will go in grafana for next few days | 16:51 |
| slaweq | I was also trying to reproduce it locally on similar 2 nodes dvr env with rocky but I couldn't - all worked fine | 16:51 |
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| slaweq | ok, I think we can then move on to the next topic | 16:53 |
| slaweq | #topic periodic | 16:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "periodic (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:53 | |
| slaweq | I just wanted to mention that last week we had issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795878 which I found after CI meeting so I didn't mention it then :) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795878 in neutron "Python 2.7 and 3.5 periodic jobs with-oslo-master fails" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) | 16:54 |
| slaweq | it's now fixed https://review.openstack.org/607872 | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | cool | 16:54 |
| slaweq | and that's all related to periodic jobs from me | 16:55 |
| slaweq | #topic Open discussion | 16:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:55 | |
| slaweq | I want also to mention one more thing | 16:55 |
| slaweq | during the PTG I was on some QA team sessions and they asked us that we should move templest_plugins from neutron stadium projects to separate repos or to neutron_tempest_plugin repo | 16:56 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: which option would be better in Your opinion? | 16:56 |
| slaweq | list of plugins is on https://docs.openstack.org/tempest/latest/plugin-registry.html | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | I don't have a strong opinion | 16:57 |
| slaweq | me neighter | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | we share a lot of tests with the Stadium, don't we? | 16:57 |
| slaweq | I don't know if a lot | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | since it is testing based on the API | 16:58 |
| slaweq | maybe we should discuss about it on ML first then? | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | yes, let's ask them | 16:58 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: will You send an email or should I? | 16:58 |
| njohnston | That makes sense, since the stadium projects may not have a uniform way they approach this | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | I suspect many of them may not have man power to handle yet another repo | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | let's see what they say | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | yes, I'll send the message | 16:59 |
| slaweq | ok, thx mlavalle | 16:59 |
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| slaweq | #action mlavalle to send an email about moving tempest plugins from stadium to separate repo | 17:00 |
| slaweq | ok, we are out of time | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx for attending | 17:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 17:00:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-10-09-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-10-09-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-10-09-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| njohnston | thanks all | 17:00 |
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| fungi | who's around to talk infra shop? | 18:59 |
| Shrews | o/ | 18:59 |
| fungi | #startmeeting infra | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 9 19:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:00 |
| fungi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
| fungi | i suppose i should take a look at this thing; just a sec ;) | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | I'm sort of around too | 19:00 |
| fungi | #topic Announcements | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:00 | |
| clarkb | I did trim the agenda and add an entry for you earlier today or was that last night? | 19:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: any important announcements? | 19:00 |
| fungi | i think it was today, or at least that's when i saw the update notification | 19:01 |
| clarkb | I don'tthink so other than summit is fast approaching and then holidays then its 2019 and wow time flies | 19:01 |
| clarkb | something something trusty eol | 19:01 |
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| fungi | yeah, um, don't forget to book flights/hotel and register if you're planning to go to berlin with us! | 19:03 |
| ssbarnea_ | i am here too | 19:03 |
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| fungi | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| fungi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-09-25-19.01.html Minutes from last meeting | 19:03 |
| fungi | i see nothing, so i think we're good | 19:04 |
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| fungi | #topic Specs approval | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| fungi | nothing mentioned on the agenda up for a council vote | 19:04 |
| fungi | i still owe an alternative implementation writeup for the letsencrypt/acme spec | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I think I meant to follow up on the 3rd party ci spec | 19:05 |
| fungi | oh, sure we can do that | 19:05 |
| clarkb | but then the gate fires happened and I was very distracted | 19:05 |
| ianw | yes, unless people's mind has changed due to intervening conferences, etc, i think that's ready | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I've written a note to follow up after the current conference | 19:06 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/563849 Direction setting for 3rd Party CI | 19:06 |
| fungi | are we good putting this up for council vote through thursday? | 19:07 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:07 |
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| fungi | #info The "Direction setting for 3rd Party CI" spec is open for council voting until 19:00 UTC Thursday, October 11. | 19:08 |
| fungi | any objections? | 19:08 |
| fungi | if you have any concerns, be sure to comment on the review in the next 48 hours! | 19:08 |
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| fungi | #topic Priority Efforts - A Task Tracker for OpenStack | 19:09 |
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| fungi | i don't really have any storyboard updates this week, and diablo_rojo is in the middle of conducting an upstream institute training in some farflung corner of the world right now | 19:10 |
| fungi | oh, we can hyperlink task footers from gerrit if anyone wants to review the corresponding system-config changes: | 19:10 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/607699 Hyperlink task footers | 19:11 |
| fungi | (and its parent) | 19:11 |
| fungi | also diablo_rojo has posted an attachments spec she'd appreciate some reviews on: | 19:11 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/607377 [WIP] StoryBoard Story Attachments | 19:11 |
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| fungi | and anyone interested in storyboard, we'll (probably) have our regular weekly meeting tomorrow at 19:00 utc in this same channel | 19:12 |
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| fungi | or find us in #openstack-storyboard any other time | 19:12 |
| * AJaeger apologies for missing the bell | 19:12 | |
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| fungi | #topic Priority Efforts - Update Config Management | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts - Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:13 | |
| fungi | i see a couple of possible subtopics mentioned here with no associated proposer | 19:13 |
| fungi | topic:puppet-4 and topic:update-cfg-mgmt | 19:13 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi - ins't the correct irc channel #storyboard ? --- without openstack prefix? | 19:14 |
| fungi | ssbarnea_: yep! fingers failed me | 19:14 |
| fungi | thanks for the correction | 19:14 |
| fungi | i see 20 open changes in the first topic and 11 in the second | 19:14 |
| fungi | i guess this bullet item is here to remind us to review these changes | 19:14 |
| fungi | the other possible subtopic on the agenda says "Zuul as CD engine" | 19:15 |
| fungi | anyone here who added that? | 19:15 |
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| Shrews | maybe corvus? i think that may have involved containery-things? | 19:16 |
| fungi | okay, well, zuul as a cd engine seems like a great idea. i know we've talked about it and are starting to do it, so... | 19:16 |
| corvus | if i added it, it was a while ago :) | 19:16 |
| fungi | cool, so maybe nothing we need to cover on this in the meeting today unless you're aware of something | 19:17 |
| corvus | not immediately -- i think the next steps from that (coming out of the ptg) are that if we want to have zuul trigger its own config updates, we need to move the entire project-creation process to ansible | 19:17 |
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| fungi | that sounds like what i remember | 19:17 |
| clarkb | oh Ihve changes that add the zuulcd user to bridge.o.o which should have the correct topic on them | 19:18 |
| clarkb | which is another prestep for that I think | 19:18 |
| fungi | and a sensible choice anyway since part of why we originally started using ansible (before zuul v2.5) was because we'd stretched the nearly nonexistent orchestration facilities of puppet to its breaking point with our new project automation | 19:19 |
| corvus | clarkb: ah yep, thanks | 19:19 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/604925 Add zuul user to bridge.openstack.org | 19:19 |
| fungi | it's in topic:update-cfg-mgmt | 19:20 |
| fungi | so, yes! | 19:20 |
| ianw | i plan to also keep exploring the containierisation of graphite.o.o ... which is sort of related because it's all role based and you could see it being part of a CD workflow | 19:20 |
| fungi | that sounds great | 19:21 |
| fungi | i similarly have a to do item to try out the "official" mailman3 container image with a mind to that | 19:21 |
| fungi | basically redo my mm3 poc with their container | 19:21 |
| fungi | anything else on this for now? | 19:21 |
| fungi | we have a fullish assortment of general topics waiting, so let's see how many i can plow through in the next 38 minutes | 19:22 |
| fungi | #topic OpenDev | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:22 | |
| fungi | we are opendev. any questions? | 19:22 |
| fungi | ;) | 19:22 |
| fungi | there's some nameserver changes still out there which need reviews i guess? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | I completely failed to schedule a meeting with the foundation | 19:23 |
| fungi | looks like those merged | 19:23 |
| clarkb | I think we were somewhat surprised as the zuul interest last week and that consumed our time at sansiblefest | 19:23 |
| fungi | oh, except one | 19:23 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/605092 Add opendev nameservers | 19:23 |
| corvus | i've lost the thread on opendev nameservers; maybe i can pick them up next week, but if anyone else wants to push forward on them in the interim you're welcome to :) | 19:23 |
| fungi | looks like we got ahead of ourselves with the firewall rules and either need public slave nameservers deployed first or need to do some manual bootstrapping of the hidden master | 19:24 |
| clarkb | I think corvus mentioned there would be manual firewall bootstrapping | 19:25 |
| fungi | i'd love to work on moving this forward, but i'm hesitant to commit to anything else for the next few days until i get more caught up | 19:25 |
| clarkb | puppet will deploy things the axfr's just won't work immediately until a human edits the firewall | 19:25 |
| fungi | well, for the moment we need some workarounds to get 605092 in that case | 19:26 |
| fungi | er, to get 605092 passing integration tests | 19:26 |
| clarkb | ah | 19:26 |
| corvus | yeah, i guess that needs to be split into 2 commits | 19:26 |
| fungi | do we want to talk about anything else specific to the opendev domain, rebranding, renaming of services, et cetera today? | 19:28 |
| fungi | or save that for when clarkb gets a marketing and promotion discussion set up first so we can figure out our initial messaging (as discussed at the ptg)? | 19:28 |
| corvus | i'm good till then | 19:29 |
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| fungi | i consider everyone else's deafening silence as tacit approval | 19:29 |
| fungi | ;) | 19:29 |
| fungi | #topic discuss silencing rsync from console logs (ssbarnea) | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "discuss silencing rsync from console logs (ssbarnea) (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:29 | |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:quiet-rsync+(status:open+OR+status:merged) silencing rsync from console logs | 19:30 |
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| ssbarnea_ | so..., some ansible rsync(s) are quite verbose by default and they spam console logs in some extreme cases where a single command taking ~40% of total console length. | 19:30 |
| fungi | however, unless we save that somewhere we have no way to diagnose artifact collection failures, right? | 19:31 |
| ssbarnea_ | I know for sure that I seen some task doing rsync on ara reports that were huge | 19:31 |
| fungi | tripleo does that, for sure | 19:31 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: --quiet does not hide errors, only success. | 19:31 |
| fungi | maybe openstack-ansible too? | 19:31 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi, i know that here some more places,.... | 19:32 |
| fungi | ssbarnea_: sure, but --quiet also doesn't tell you what files you didn't collect because you put them in the wrong directory or had an overly-picky regex | 19:32 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: neither non quiet doesn't tell you what you didn't collect. | 19:33 |
| ssbarnea_ | and what you collected is visible at the destination anyway. | 19:33 |
| ssbarnea_ | i doubt we do have tasks removing them after collection | 19:33 |
| fungi | i'm mostly trying to represent the other side in this argument but i don't feel super strongly either way. the changes in question are just for openstack-specific jobs, not other zuul jobs. it's been suggested that we can make the console log less verbose by default with collapseable sections instead. does this address your concerns? | 19:34 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: we may make the --quiet optional? like enabled by default and disabled for special cases (like a debug build) | 19:34 |
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| ssbarnea_ | can me make a rule (lines/task) of what counts as reasonable usage and what counts as spam? if we spot a task as spammy, we silence it? | 19:35 |
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| ssbarnea_ | i think nobody would complain if there are 10-20 lines, but when it goes >100 it starts to become spam. | 19:35 |
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| ssbarnea_ | and while I like ARA, I find its number of files as super-spam. | 19:36 |
| fungi | usually the ones i end up wanting to look at, personally, are docs/website publication job logs because invariably i've screwed up where i put files or how i matched them | 19:36 |
| AJaeger | oh yeah, those are always fun ;( | 19:36 |
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| fungi | also release jobs because of release artifacts being skipped due to incorrect naming | 19:37 |
| ssbarnea_ | ideally we should dump list of files to an separate log file and avoid using console, but sadly for us ansible had no such support. | 19:38 |
| fungi | well, also there's a catch-22 | 19:39 |
| fungi | since we need to collect the file containing the list of files? | 19:39 |
| ssbarnea_ | i am not sure if the zuul special callback can do some smart filtering for this specific case. | 19:39 |
| fungi | sort of a gödel's completeness problem i guess | 19:39 |
| ssbarnea_ | if we hack the callback to avoid console output, we still can have the full list captured by ara as json. still not sure how easy is this to implement. | 19:40 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm unfortunately not sure we have the attention of the right people in the meeting today to come to a conclusion on this topic | 19:41 |
| fungi | or at least nobody's really speaking up | 19:41 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: in this case lets move on, we can postpone it. | 19:42 |
| fungi | unless someone has something they want to add on this, i can move on to your next topic | 19:42 |
| fungi | this next topic isn't really phrased as a topic. i'll see what i can come up with | 19:42 |
| fungi | #topic ask.openstack.org with tag #openstack-infra (ssbarnea) | 19:42 |
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| fungi | so... in the past i and others have alerted people who ask infra questions on the openstack ask site that we don't really do infra support there and directed them to irc or the ml | 19:43 |
| ianw | i think "just drop the logs" when people then think "hey, i've used that before" makes it a hard argument for people to vote on. but an intermediate thing, like having it logged separately somehow, certainly makes it easier to come at | 19:43 |
| fungi | ssbarnea_: are you volunteering to be our ask.o.o answerer? | 19:43 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: yes, I do, we can use a specific topic openstack-infra there. | 19:44 |
| ssbarnea_ | the idea is to provide support, but only for things that are specific to us. | 19:44 |
| fungi | i have no objection to you seeking out seemingly infra-oriented questions on that site and giving answers... my main concern (having dealt with it for years) is that it's like a cross between a wiki and a blog where answers get outdated and rot and become attractive nuisances | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | we have so far answered the "common" questions in the infra-manual | 19:45 |
| fungi | yes, at times when i've answered infra-related questions on ask.o.o i've tried to stick to providing hyperlinks to our documentation | 19:46 |
| ssbarnea_ | stackoverflow never become obsolete, the wiki or docs are much harder to update. yep hyperlinks are good. | 19:46 |
| fungi | be that infra-manual or tool-specific docs | 19:46 |
| AJaeger | and sometimes we wrote another section for our docs so that we can link next time ;) | 19:47 |
| ssbarnea_ | we can just experiment for few weeks and wee if it works or not. | 19:47 |
| ianw | i'm not sure i'd even considered people asking infra questions there. i can subscribe to that tag, but I think we have long-standing issues knowing that subscriptions on ask.o.o don't quite work properly | 19:47 |
| fungi | so anyway, i see no problem with people who are interested in dealing with ask.o.o curating and answering/updating/combining/closing questions there | 19:48 |
| fungi | if you need moderator access and don't have it yet, let me know and i can figure out how to elevate you to a mod | 19:48 |
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| ianw | we need to update it all during the next sprint ... i think most of the puppet has been updated ... and then maybe subscriptions will work better and be easier to follow? | 19:48 |
| fungi | but in general i'm going to focus on answering questions in irc and on mailing lists and getting answers to common questions answered in relevant documentation, as AJaeger mentioned | 19:49 |
| ssbarnea_ | is based on osqa or something else? i had prev exp with osqa. | 19:49 |
| * fungi has no idea what osqa is | 19:49 | |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: https://github.com/dzone/osqa | 19:50 |
| AJaeger | fungi, agree with your comments - if there're volunteers like ssbarnea_, let him try it... | 19:50 |
| fungi | ssbarnea_: ahh, no. see site footer: This site is powered by Askbot. http://askbot.com/ | 19:50 |
| ianw | ssbarnea_: no it's askbot | 19:50 |
| fungi | the author used to be contracted to help us support it, but he had less and less time to work on that over the years | 19:51 |
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| ianw | ssbarnea_: if you'd like to take on upgrades, i'd be happy to liaise with you as i've done a bunch of puppet for xenial update, but the service (and all support bits) needs updating | 19:51 |
| ianw | there's also a mail out there about issues with it when i looked into it | 19:52 |
| fungi | this site basically came about 1. because we had old spam-filled web forums full of misinformation we wanted to close down and 2. stackoverflow wouldn't give the osf the time of day when they asked about setting up a zone or whatever there to corral the openstack-related questions | 19:52 |
| ssbarnea_ | ianw: let me first see if it worth investing in it, without enough users it would be close to useless. | 19:52 |
| fungi | 6.5 minutes remaining | 19:53 |
| fungi | #topic Upgrade sprint next week (clarkb) | 19:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Upgrade sprint next week (clarkb) (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:53 | |
| fungi | "Should be a good time in the cycle to do some upgrades and we need to move off trusty." | 19:53 |
| fungi | he's hopefully getting ready to go on stage right now | 19:53 |
| ianw | ssbarnea_: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129078.html for reference | 19:54 |
| fungi | so this is more of a reminder. people who want to help work on upgrading our servers off trusty... let's do that | 19:54 |
| clarkb | ya very shortly. I just wanted to see if we could get concerted effort around this next week | 19:54 |
| fungi | #topic Mirror/network issues at mirror.us-west-1.packethost.openstack.org (ssbarnea) | 19:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mirror/network issues at mirror.us-west-1.packethost.openstack.org (ssbarnea) (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:54 | |
| fungi | we _think_ this one is due to hypervisor hosts running out of disk. we don't control them | 19:55 |
| fungi | last night i "preallocated" the rest of the rootfs on this server by writing zeroes to a file until we ran out of space, then deleting it | 19:55 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: so what can we do to avoid these errors? other than praying | 19:55 |
| ianw | yeah ... although with the sprint, i'm not sure how much heroic effort we want to put into puppet things v container things. but the container stuff is all green-fields ATM, so we need to design some sort of process around that | 19:55 |
| fungi | we had two outages yesterday where i found it in a "shutoff" state according to nova before the preallocation was done | 19:56 |
| fungi | it's been up since, so hopefully this has helped | 19:56 |
| fungi | in this case i think it's due to it being a small, dedicated cloud rather than a public cloud provider where they tend to size and track workloads a little more effectively | 19:56 |
| fungi | not that we don't see occasional unannounced outages for our control plan servers in large public clouds as well | 19:57 |
| fungi | er, control plane | 19:57 |
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| fungi | going to go to open discussion for this last topic | 19:57 |
| fungi | #topic Open discussion | 19:58 |
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| ianw | fungi: speaking of small dedicated clouds, have you heard any more on the armci cloud? | 19:58 |
| fungi | ianw: nada | 19:58 |
| fungi | someone added something here which looks more like a bug report: | 19:58 |
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| fungi | "logs.openstack.org does not return character encoding for served files, thus confusing browser into rendering logs with garbage due to defaulting to US-ANSI instead of UTF-8. This can avoded by setting 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8' instead of current 'Content-Type: text/plain'. Firefox inspect message: The character encoding of the HTML document was not declared. The document will | 19:58 |
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| fungi | render with garbled text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the page must be declared in the document or in the transfer protocol. job-output.txt.gz" | 19:58 |
| ssbarnea_ | it was me | 19:58 |
| ssbarnea_ | not sure where I should have raise it | 19:59 |
| fungi | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/templates/logs.vhost.erb | 19:59 |
| fungi | that's the configuration it's using | 19:59 |
| fungi | there's also a logs-dev.vhost.erb we can use to test changes (points to the same docroot) | 20:00 |
| ssbarnea_ | fungi: ok, in this case I will make a storyboard for it | 20:00 |
| fungi | and we're out of time | 20:00 |
| ssbarnea_ | and try to fix it | 20:00 |
| fungi | thanks, ssbarnea_! | 20:00 |
| fungi | and thanks everyone! discussion can continue in #openstack-infra | 20:00 |
| fungi | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 9 20:00:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-10-09-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-10-09-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-10-09-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
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