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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 23 14:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| melwitt | greetings everyone | 14:00 |
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| stephenfin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| efried | ō/ | 14:00 |
| * dansmith gurgles | 14:00 | |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:00 |
| kosamara | hi | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:01 |
| dansmith | whoa johnthetubaguy sighting! | 14:01 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:01 |
| melwitt | let's make a start | 14:01 |
| melwitt | wow, hi johnthetubaguy o/ | 14:01 |
| csatari | ő/ | 14:01 |
| * johnthetubaguy nods in shame | 14:01 | |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| melwitt | #link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| melwitt | today is the deadline for RCs | 14:01 |
| melwitt | and we're having a RC3 today | 14:01 |
| melwitt | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-release-candidate-todo | 14:01 |
| melwitt | tracking RC3 changes in there ^ | 14:02 |
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| melwitt | one of them, I think we have to punt because the correct fix is not yet identified. are we doing a release note or something for that one mriedem? | 14:02 |
| mriedem | we should, | 14:03 |
| mriedem | but, | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i can't get a straight answer out of anyone that knows anything about the problem | 14:03 |
| melwitt | ah, okay | 14:03 |
| mriedem | sahid is our best bet probably but i'm not sure if he's gone now | 14:03 |
| mriedem | so you guys can chase him downstream | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | why is revert not an option? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | the rx/tx queue config stuff? | 14:03 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i mean, it's always an option | 14:03 |
| dansmith | it's not overly hard here yeah? | 14:04 |
| mriedem | presumably it works for at least one type of sriov port, | 14:04 |
| dansmith | just saying, if there's no obvious workaround and we don't know what to do to fix it.. | 14:04 |
| mriedem | but i don't know if anyone claims to have tested it | 14:04 |
| melwitt | okay, I just pinged sahid in the nova channel | 14:04 |
| melwitt | about release note advice. not sure if he's around though | 14:04 |
| mriedem | moshe said vnic type direct doesn't work, | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | which leads me to believe sahid tested with macvtap | 14:04 |
| mriedem | but again, idk | 14:05 |
| stephenfin | mriedem, melwitt, dansmith: Don't know how much I can do in a few hours, but I can take a look | 14:05 |
| stephenfin | If sahid isn't about | 14:05 |
| dansmith | mriedem: moshe's email makes it sound like turning this on in tripleo was the trigger? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: that would be great - it's aslo in the ML | 14:05 |
| stephenfin | ack | 14:05 |
| mriedem | dansmith: depends on the vnic type | 14:05 |
| dansmith | so does just leaving it disabled (despite their default) work okay? | 14:05 |
| melwitt | yep thanks stephenfin | 14:05 |
| mriedem | if vnic_type == 'direct' we don't set some stuff in the domain xml and it explodes | 14:06 |
| mriedem | or we set the wrong thing | 14:06 |
| mriedem | b/c of some other TODOs related to that rx/tx queue code | 14:06 |
| dansmith | regardles of the config? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | there are TODOs on top of TODOs in there | 14:06 |
| mriedem | tripleo defaults to 512 in the rx queue | 14:06 |
| mriedem | so the workaround in tripleo is, don't default | 14:06 |
| dansmith | right, that's what I'm asking.. | 14:06 |
| stephenfin | I understood it as we _do_ set it when we shouldn't | 14:06 |
| dansmith | if there is a "don't configure that" workaround, then revert is too nuclear | 14:06 |
| stephenfin | set the XML attribute, that is | 14:06 |
| dansmith | if there's not a workaround, then we should probably revert | 14:07 |
| melwitt | sahid just said in the nova channel, he'll reply with all the info he has | 14:07 |
| mriedem | stephenfin: there is some code which assumes a default vhost interface driver, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | which doesn't work for rx queue with direct vnics, apparently | 14:07 |
| mriedem | per moshe's paste | 14:07 |
| efried | I'll propose a fast-fail patch whenever vnic_type=='direct' | 14:07 |
| mriedem | ha | 14:07 |
| efried | (too soon?) | 14:07 |
| mriedem | right on time | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | so, | 14:08 |
| mriedem | if we aren't sure by eod, we can at least doc a known issue reno with the bug | 14:08 |
| mriedem | saying "some types of vnics don't work with rx queues" | 14:08 |
| mriedem | "test it first, obviously, dummy" | 14:08 |
| melwitt | ok. who will propose the reno? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i can crank out that docs change as a placeholder for now | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i can | 14:09 |
| melwitt | okay cool, thanks | 14:09 |
| * mriedem mriedem to write a docs/reno patch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ | 14:09 | |
| mriedem | oops | 14:09 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to write a docs/reno patch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i guess you have to as chair | 14:09 |
| melwitt | yeah, I wasn't sure how that worked | 14:09 |
| melwitt | #action mriedem to write a docs/reno patch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ | 14:10 |
| melwitt | #action mriedem to write a docs/reno patch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595592/ | 14:10 |
| melwitt | ok, anything else for release news before moving on? | 14:10 |
| efried | is there somewhere that those show up before the end of the meeting? | 14:10 |
| efried | the bot doesn't ack them | 14:10 |
| melwitt | I dunno, I've wondered that too | 14:10 |
| mriedem | they do | 14:10 |
| dansmith | in the meeting summary | 14:10 |
| mriedem | right | 14:10 |
| melwitt | before the meeting is ended? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | html | 14:10 |
| mriedem | no | 14:11 |
| melwitt | yeah that's what efried was asking | 14:11 |
| efried | we'll see if the minutes include one, two, or three instances of that message :) | 14:11 |
| mriedem | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-08-16-21.00.html | 14:11 |
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| melwitt | yeah, we'll see what happens after the meeting | 14:11 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:12 | |
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| melwitt | no critical bugs in the link | 14:12 |
| melwitt | #link 45 new untriaged bugs (up 5 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:12 |
| melwitt | #link 7 untagged untriaged bugs (up 5 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:12 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 14:12 |
| melwitt | #help need help with bug triage | 14:12 |
| melwitt | Gate status | 14:12 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:12 |
| melwitt | anecdotally, I've been seeing a lot of gate timeouts and seemingly random failures | 14:13 |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI | 14:13 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:13 |
| melwitt | anyone have anything else for bugs or gate status or third party CI? | 14:13 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:14 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 14:14 |
| melwitt | #link Stein PTG planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-stein | 14:14 |
| melwitt | #link Rocky retrospective for the PTG: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-retrospective | 14:14 |
| mriedem | re gate status https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1788403 has been gumming up the works | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788403 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_server_connectivity_cold_migration_revert randomly fails ssh check" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i'll e-r that after the meeting | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | 72 hits in 7 days | 14:14 |
| melwitt | oh yeah, I've seen that one | 14:15 |
| melwitt | thanks | 14:15 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:15 | |
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| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 14:15 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:16 |
| melwitt | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:16 |
| mriedem | if we're good with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594178/ for rc3, | 14:16 |
| mriedem | we need stable cores to +2 | 14:16 |
| mriedem | which would be dansmith and someone else | 14:16 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just looking at it now | 14:16 |
| melwitt | I've been saying I'm going to propose stable branch releases for queens/pike/ocata but we were waiting on a specific series of backports to merge. I need to go through and see if there's anything else to hold for | 14:17 |
| melwitt | anything else for stable branch status? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i forgot about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590801/ | 14:18 |
| mriedem | and can't remember if we were doing that for an rc? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | "LGTM. This was a regression in Rocky which we backported to queens and pike so we're going to get it in either way, plus this is extremely low risk." | 14:18 |
| melwitt | I don't think we identified it as such but it seems appropriate. it's a regression | 14:18 |
| melwitt | oh nope, it's tagged | 14:19 |
| mriedem | oh i bet i know why it didn't show up in lp | 14:19 |
| mriedem | because it's marked as fixed on master | 14:19 |
| melwitt | didn't show up in the link because it's no longer open? | 14:19 |
| melwitt | yeah | 14:19 |
| mriedem | approved | 14:19 |
| melwitt | thanks for catching that | 14:20 |
| melwitt | okay, moving on | 14:20 |
| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:20 | |
| melwitt | cells v2, we had a meeting. dansmith want to summarize? | 14:20 |
| dansmith | we talked through some of the big changes we have on the plate | 14:21 |
| dansmith | current stuff like batching and handling down cells, | 14:21 |
| dansmith | as well as upcoming fun stuff like cross-cell migration | 14:21 |
| dansmith | and we highlighted a few of the patch sets that need more review and have been getting neglected | 14:21 |
| dansmith | and finally, we established that I'm a terrible person | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I think that's it | 14:21 |
| melwitt | great | 14:21 |
| melwitt | scheduler, efried? | 14:22 |
| efried | Okay, here we go | 14:22 |
| efried | /me glares squinty-eyed at Sigyn | 14:22 |
| efried | tumbleweed rolls across dusty street | 14:22 |
| efried | fingers twitch above holsters | 14:22 |
| efried | #link nova-scheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-08-20-14.00.html | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ha | 14:22 |
| mriedem | "great" | 14:22 |
| efried | Still no recent pupdates. cdent says he'll resume these around PTG time. Yay! | 14:22 |
| efried | Discussed status of: | 14:22 |
| efried | #link reshaper series: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/reshape-provider-tree+status:open | 14:22 |
| efried | which has since seen some additional reviews/revisions. | 14:22 |
| efried | Bottom has procedural hold, but two +2s. | 14:22 |
| efried | Remainder of series has reviews, needs more, should be landable very soon. | 14:23 |
| efried | #link Gigantor SQL split and debug logging: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590041/ | 14:23 |
| efried | Has one +2, gibi is on the hook to +A | 14:23 |
| efried | #link consumer generation handling (gibi): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:consumer_gen+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:23 |
| efried | #link ML thread on consumer gen conflict handling: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133373.html | 14:23 |
| efried | #link nested and shared providers for initial & migration (and other?) allocations: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:use-nested-allocation-candidates+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:23 |
| mriedem | note on the reshaper series... | 14:23 |
| mriedem | libvirt and xenapi drivers, the two that need reshaper, won't have any code started until next week at the earliest | 14:24 |
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| efried | I feel pretty strongly that we should not hold the series for those. | 14:24 |
| mriedem | we don't have to debate it here, i was just noting it for others not in the emails | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i'm on the not block forever side of the fence too | 14:25 |
| efried | Even if it is imperfect - and that's a big "if" - we have a tendency to find and fix bugs as and when they are discovered by consuming code/operators/whatever. | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i just need to go through the nova client side changes | 14:25 |
| melwitt | yeah, I think it's fine to move forward with the series, fwiw. we can fix stuff after | 14:25 |
| efried | cool beans | 14:26 |
| melwitt | okay, next is notifications, gibi? | 14:26 |
| efried | Since we're talking about reshaper | 14:26 |
| efried | oh, I wasn't done :) | 14:26 |
| melwitt | oops | 14:26 |
| melwitt | sorry | 14:26 |
| * gibi holds | 14:27 | |
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| efried | Matt's review of the API patch revealed a hole in policy handling, which led cdent to come up with this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595559/ | 14:27 |
| efried | ...and I was wondering if that would be appropriate to port to nova too. | 14:27 |
| * stephenfin worries about efried consuming operators | 14:27 | |
| mriedem | that would be harder in nova, | 14:27 |
| efried | okay. just a thought. | 14:28 |
| mriedem | placement defaults to admin-only for all routes except / | 14:28 |
| cdent | yeah I left a commen to that effect | 14:28 |
| efried | ight | 14:28 |
| mriedem | nova is all over the obard | 14:28 |
| mriedem | *board | 14:28 |
| efried | moving on with sched subteam report... | 14:28 |
| efried | #link Spec: Placement modeling of PCI devices ("generic device management") https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/ | 14:28 |
| cdent | harder because of finding urls, harder because of finding policies | 14:28 |
| efried | And now for the big one | 14:28 |
| efried | Placement extraction | 14:28 |
| efried | #link epic dev ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133445.html | 14:28 |
| efried | #link epic discussion in #openstack-tc http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-08-20.log.html#t2018-08-20T15:27:57 | 14:28 |
| efried | TL;DR: 1) Consensus that we should put placement in its own repo - more on that in a minute. | 14:28 |
| efried | 2) Consensus that initial placement-core team should be a superset of nova-core | 14:29 |
| efried | 3) Still no consensus on whether placement should be under compute or independent governance | 14:29 |
| efried | So back to 1), cdent and edleafe have started work on this in a | 14:29 |
| efried | #link temporary placement github repo https://github.com/EdLeafe/placement | 14:29 |
| efried | which is being experimented on and respun as needed to get it presentable before seeding the official openstack repo. | 14:29 |
| efried | cdent, edleafe: comments? | 14:29 |
| cdent | it "works" on https://github.com/EdLeafe/placement/pull/2 | 14:29 |
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| efried | \o/ | 14:29 |
| cdent | but is messy, but cleaning it up should be fine | 14:29 |
| edleafe | I will be re-extracting with the items cdent identified later today | 14:29 |
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| efried | Okay, that's it for sched subteam. Questions, comments, concerns, heckles? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | at this point, | 14:30 |
| mriedem | with what 2 weeks to ptg? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i assume we wait for decisions on #3? | 14:31 |
| mriedem | i mean i know where i am, and it's in the ML | 14:31 |
| mriedem | and gibi too | 14:31 |
| efried | What do you mean, wait for decisions? You mean try to make that decision _at_ the PTG? | 14:31 |
| mriedem | that's what i'm asking | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i don't know if the ML thread is dying out or what | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i haven't read the latest | 14:32 |
| efried | I actually haven't caught up since last night, so my statement about #3 may have been premature. | 14:33 |
| mriedem | to summarize my position on #3, i mostly don't care, but think the extraction is going to be a pain in the ass and would rather not deal with the governance question at the same time | 14:33 |
| mriedem | once we've extracted, | 14:33 |
| mriedem | setup a new core team, | 14:33 |
| mriedem | and run that for 6 months, | 14:33 |
| mriedem | then flipping the governance in time for T PTL elections is easy peasy | 14:33 |
| mriedem | if people are vehemently opposed to ^ as a compromise, they should speak up | 14:34 |
| melwitt | yeah, my position is that I would prefer we start with things extracted to a new repo, with a new placement-core team, under compute | 14:34 |
| mriedem | dansmith: jaypipes: melwitt: edleafe: cdent ^ | 14:34 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I am muting myself. | 14:35 |
| cdent | I'm not opposed to that, but as I understand some of the conversations haven't fully resolved, for people not currently here. | 14:35 |
| mriedem | that's why i asked about the ptg | 14:36 |
| mriedem | where people that should care will be in person | 14:36 |
| mriedem | and it can be hashed out | 14:36 |
| efried | My concern - that separation of governance gets put off indefinitely - is assuaged by reading that as "we intend and plan to split governance in T unless something serious happens to make us think that's the really wrong thing to do". | 14:36 |
| edleafe | I'm not opposed, even if it seems unnecessary | 14:36 |
| mriedem | i have always assumed long-term separate governance personally | 14:37 |
| mriedem | if it's T or later, as i said, | 14:37 |
| melwitt | fwiw, I don't want to put it off indefinitely. I want to start with things under compute, make some progress on the major tightly coupled work we need (vGPUs, NUMA, affinity, shared storage) and when that tails off, flip the governance | 14:38 |
| mriedem | depends on getting through the extraction and new core team first for a cycle at least | 14:38 |
| mriedem | i also don't want to hold hostages | 14:38 |
| cdent | I don't think we need to rush on making a decision. There are people involved in the discussion who don't process email as fast as most of the people talking right now. From what various people have told me in the past week, they want to think about things for a few more days. | 14:38 |
| mriedem | if nova isn't going to make progress client-side on ^ then we can't hold forever | 14:38 |
| mriedem | IMO | 14:38 |
| efried | Yes, I have a problem with the premises of "tightly coupled" and "tails off", which are recipes for "hostage" and putting off indefinitely. | 14:39 |
| cdent | So I'd prefer to only proceed on the extraction and make, as yet, no assertions on the governance side of things | 14:39 |
| mriedem | cdent: i think we're saying the same thing | 14:39 |
| mriedem | so agree from me | 14:39 |
| melwitt | I agree, if things are dragging and the client-side isn't working to make progress, then that is another issue and we won't hold forever over that | 14:39 |
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| cdent | I have similar concerns to efried about the perception of coupling and tailing, but I don't think we need to address that right here right now | 14:41 |
| melwitt | but we are not there yet, people have been working on the client-side. but we need to prioritize that higher | 14:41 |
| efried | So I'm fine with setting an actual plan to run Stein under compute and separate governance in Train. Accepting that plans can change, but that's the way we execute if things go fairly close to expected. | 14:41 |
| efried | rather than explicitly leaving it open-ended. | 14:41 |
| cdent | efried: yes, that's a good idea (I think), but I think we should wait before declaring that. Both ttx and dhellmann seem to have more they want to do | 14:42 |
| efried | ack | 14:42 |
| * efried feels progress was made toward a consensus \\o/ | 14:42 | |
| cdent | yes | 14:42 |
| melwitt | okay, anything else for scheduler subteam before we move on to notifications? | 14:44 |
| efried | Not from me. Thanks. | 14:44 |
| melwitt | okay, gibi? | 14:44 |
| gibi | I was on PTO so no meeting and no status mail. I will resume those next week | 14:44 |
| gibi | nothing serious is ongoing in notification side at the moment | 14:45 |
| gibi | that is all | 14:46 |
| melwitt | cool, thanks | 14:46 |
| melwitt | gmann, API subteam? | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | he's on PTO | 14:46 |
| mriedem | working through the server view builder extension merge series | 14:46 |
| melwitt | ah, okay. thanks | 14:47 |
| melwitt | anything else for subteams before we move on? | 14:47 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:47 |
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| melwitt | no items in the agenda. anyone in the room have anything for stuck reviews? | 14:47 |
| kosamara | yes | 14:47 |
| kosamara | Bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579897 | 14:48 |
| melwitt | oh sorry, I missed it in the agenda | 14:48 |
| kosamara | Hide hypervisor id on windows guests | 14:48 |
| kosamara | :) | 14:48 |
| melwitt | #link Bug: Hide hypervisor id on windows guests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579897 | 14:48 |
| melwitt | there's review from jaypipes there. is this stuck or are you just waiting for a response from him? | 14:49 |
| kosamara | The bug is that Windows guests with PCI passthrough of Nvidia GPUs can't use the GPU due to a restriction of the nvidia driver | 14:49 |
| melwitt | oh, I see now | 14:49 |
| kosamara | I guess both. | 14:49 |
| mriedem | we already have a similar thing elsewhere | 14:49 |
| mriedem | and i thought there was another related wishlist type bug for this | 14:49 |
| mriedem | from kosamara also, | 14:49 |
| mriedem | but i can't find it | 14:49 |
| kosamara | Which we patched some months ago | 14:49 |
| mriedem | i might be thinking of the bp in rocky | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hide-hypervisor-id-flavor-extra-spec | 14:50 |
| mriedem | yes ^ | 14:50 |
| kosamara | that was for all guests, yes that | 14:50 |
| mriedem | so this is a bug in the same vein | 14:50 |
| dansmith | does any other hypervisor allow for this? | 14:50 |
| kosamara | this is in particular for windows guests. The problem are the extra HyperV tags, which reveal that there is a hypervisor | 14:50 |
| dansmith | since this is about hiding hyper-v's signature in kvm, I would expect that they don't | 14:50 |
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| kosamara | dansmith: We have a flag to hide KVM's signature for the same reason | 14:51 |
| dansmith | yeah I know, and I understand the use case | 14:51 |
| kosamara | jaypipes: I want to add on this bug that it is triggered by a need of CERN users | 14:53 |
| mriedem | pulling the CERN card eh | 14:53 |
| dansmith | well, in that case! | 14:53 |
| mriedem | so given we have prior art here, | 14:54 |
| jaypipes | kosamara: I've said my piece on the review in question. I won't hold it up. I'm just not going to +2 it. | 14:54 |
| dansmith | I dunno, I think I'm against this | 14:55 |
| mriedem | why would the previous hide be ok but this isn't? | 14:55 |
| dansmith | this is a libvirt-specific hack to disable flags to sidestep licensing at the expense of performance | 14:55 |
| kosamara | It tries to solve a real end user problem, namely running engineering and rendering software, and it doesn't come from a vendor. | 14:55 |
| kosamara | As mriedem says, the use case is essentially the same as the previous hiding. | 14:56 |
| jaypipes | kosamara: like I said, I feel for you, and I don't hold this against you personally (or CERN). I just don't support hacks like this to get around what is essentially a vendor-specific licensing dilemma for NVIDIA users. | 14:57 |
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| melwitt | is there any correct way to fix this elsewhere? | 14:57 |
| dansmith | this patch for sure is way too targeted | 14:58 |
| dansmith | it's just hacked into place | 14:58 |
| melwitt | gah, we only have a few minutes left here | 14:58 |
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| kosamara | melwitt: I don't see any other way | 14:58 |
| dansmith | I'm not sure what knob we have for disabling the base flags right now, but I'm not sure why we need another one for windows specifically | 14:58 |
| melwitt | okay, we'll have to move to the nova channel, have to wrap up here | 14:59 |
| dansmith | I have another meeting | 14:59 |
| kosamara | I'll continue in nova | 14:59 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 14:59 |
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| melwitt | someone left a note | 14:59 |
| melwitt | #link Edge Computing Group PTG schedule with a Nova session planned: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/EdgeComputingGroupPTG4 | 14:59 |
| melwitt | edge computing PTG etherpad for those interested ^ | 15:00 |
| mriedem | jaypipes said he was on the edge | 15:00 |
| melwitt | heh | 15:00 |
| mriedem | so he can be our rep | 15:00 |
| melwitt | okay, we have to wrap, thanks eveyone | 15:00 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 23 15:00:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-08-23-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-08-23-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-08-23-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 23 15:03:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:03 |
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| gagehugo | ping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:03 |
| nickthetait | hello :) | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | nickthetait o/ | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | dunno if lhinds is around | 15:05 |
| fungi | i'm sort of around, as usual | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | fungi o/ | 15:07 |
| nickthetait | hey (sort of) | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | #topic OSSN/OSSA | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSN/OSSA (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:07 | |
| gagehugo | any updates here fungi? | 15:07 |
| fungi | we have a few new public bugs i think since week before last | 15:09 |
| fungi | just a sec i can find links | 15:10 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786646 ScaleIO (thin) volumes contain previous data (follow-up to 1699573) | 15:11 |
| openstack | fungi: Error: malone bug 1786646 not found | 15:11 |
| nickthetait | I can't open that link | 15:12 |
| fungi | #undo | 15:12 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784871 ScaleIO (thin) volumes contain previous data (follow-up to 1699573) | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784871 in OpenStack Security Advisory "ScaleIO (thin) volumes contain previous data (follow-up to 1699573)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:12 |
| fungi | that's better | 15:12 |
| fungi | not sure how i mangled that bug number the first time | 15:12 |
| nickthetait | haha, fixed now | 15:13 |
| fungi | it's a followup to OSSN-0084 | 15:13 |
| fungi | looks like it's going to get backports to stable branches, so we can do an ossa after all | 15:13 |
| fungi | the fix will also address the issue from that earlier ossn | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | ah | 15:14 |
| nickthetait | :-/ | 15:15 |
| fungi | i thought we had more, but going back through i don't see any new additions | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | I think that was the only one I remember seeing | 15:16 |
| fungi | yep, cool | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | awesome | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | #topic Documentation | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:18 | |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | I don't have any updates here afaik | 15:19 |
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| gagehugo | #topic VMT docs | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VMT docs (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:21 | |
| gagehugo | there are drafts up for pycadf, keystoneauth, oslo.cache | 15:21 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529945/ | 15:22 |
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| gagehugo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526476/ | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527202/ | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | reviews are welcome | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | #topic PTG | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:23 | |
| gagehugo | Still planned to share Mon/Tue with Barbican | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | need to sync with ade_lee | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | When we get a schedule setup, we can discuss at the next meeting or I'll send out an ML thread | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | #topic general discussion | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:24 | |
| gagehugo | anyone have anything? | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | floor is open | 15:24 |
| nickthetait | I am now officially a Security Engineer at Red Hat :) | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | nickthetait congrats! | 15:25 |
| nickthetait | no clue what is going on yet, but getting things setup :O | 15:25 |
| fungi | did the anchor repo retirement get mentioned? | 15:25 |
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| fungi | also, congrats nickthetait! | 15:25 |
| nickthetait | thanks! | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | fungi ah, yeah that's something that happened | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | anchor is being retired | 15:25 |
| fungi | figured it was worth pointing out in the meeting, since it was a security sig (or formerly security team) project | 15:26 |
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| nickthetait | how long was it in use? | 15:27 |
| gagehugo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-sigs/2018-August/000481.html | 15:27 |
| gagehugo | not really updated since early 2016 | 15:28 |
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| gagehugo | anything else? | 15:29 |
| nickthetait | not from me | 15:30 |
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| gagehugo | nickthetait fungi thanks for coming! | 15:31 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| nickthetait | bye | 15:31 |
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| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:32 |
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